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Danny Ricker Disobeys Bridger · I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar

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  Speaker 1: And I invited you here.
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  Speaker 2: Gonta made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to
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  Speaker 2: my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guest,
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  Speaker 2: you're our presences, presence in I already had too much stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? Before the show begins, a reminder of the live
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  Speaker 3: show coming up August twenty second, at seven thirty pm
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  Speaker 3: great time at Dynasty Typewriter last year. How could anything
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  Speaker 3: possibly go wrong? And now I've cursed the whole thing,
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  Speaker 3: And but that's you know, will only be better for
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  Speaker 3: you if it's cursed. So there will be something that
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  Speaker 3: dot com. I expect you to be there, or at
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  Speaker 3: least be there, you know, Cyber be there. Okay, let's
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  Speaker 3: get into the show. Welcome to I said, no gifts.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Bridger, Weineger. We're in the back. What a lovely
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  Speaker 3: feeling this is. We're so free, We're so loose. It's
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  Speaker 3: not that hot. I kind of expected to just be
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  Speaker 3: immediately sweating, but I guess that was kind of an illusion.
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  Speaker 3: My car played on me a little trick because my
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  Speaker 3: car was about ninety seven degrees my entire ride to
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  Speaker 3: the coffee shop. What's going on? I'm back from Utah.
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  Speaker 3: That was lovely. I thought I had a cold sore
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  Speaker 3: ended up being a terrible ZiT. I don't know which
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  Speaker 3: I'd rather have. I just want to die the news
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  Speaker 3: in the backyard. Is there some sort of creature. There's
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  Speaker 3: some sort of creature that has been digging up the succulents,
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  Speaker 3: and one that looked almost looked like the circulant had exploded.
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  Speaker 3: And I can't imagine what animal this is. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: on the case. And when I say I'm on the case,
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  Speaker 3: that just means I wait for something else to get
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  Speaker 3: ripped up and then wonder what it is. I haven't
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  Speaker 3: bought an animal camera yet. I think it's time to
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  Speaker 3: find out what is coming into the yard. It's either
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  Speaker 3: a coyote, I raccoon, apossum, might be a mole. It
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  Speaker 3: might be an underground job because this thing looks like
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  Speaker 3: it was shredded from underneath. I'll post a picture to
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  Speaker 3: Instagram if I can find it. Everyone loves looking at
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  Speaker 3: ripped up plants. Oh, let's get into the episode. I
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  Speaker 3: love today's guest. It's Danny Ricker, Hi Bridger. Danny, welcome
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  Speaker 3: to I said no gift.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. I'm so happy to see you.
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  Speaker 3: Oh it's been a while.
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  Speaker 4: It has. We were coworkers for many years.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you were my boss.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I don't consider myself Danny. I'm the
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  Speaker 4: cruel boss. I feel like I'm the guy who has
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  Speaker 4: the most to do. I don't. I don't feel like
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  Speaker 4: I'm in charge of anyone.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, poor Dan, No, you were. You were kind of
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  Speaker 3: the boss, but also acted more like a coworker that way.
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  Speaker 4: I try to, you know, I like to. I like
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  Speaker 4: to force my friendship upon my underlings and make them
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  Speaker 4: pretend like they enjoy spending time with me.
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  Speaker 3: No, I've never felt like, oh God, here comes Danny's
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  Speaker 3: going to demand something. You were we work together for
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  Speaker 3: a year, only a year and a half to be
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  Speaker 3: is that it? It's so crazy?
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  Speaker 4: Can I tell you are one of the most beloved,
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  Speaker 4: like former members of our writing staff, Like we talk
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  Speaker 4: about you as if you're like a beloved cousin who
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  Speaker 4: passed away. Well, yesterday I was at work and I
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  Speaker 4: was like, oh, I'm doing Bridges' podcast tomorrow, and everyone
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  Speaker 4: went you are, Like everyone was so excited and jealous
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  Speaker 4: that I got to see you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's such a sweet place to work. Whenever people
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  Speaker 3: ask me how it was to work at Jimmy Kimmel Live,
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  Speaker 3: I say it was like working at a family garage.
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  Speaker 4: That's a very good analogy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just a lovely place run by a lovely person
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  Speaker 3: and just like slightly leaning straight attitude, you know. But
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  Speaker 3: like if I can work there, then anybody can. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And you brought something so unique to the writing staff,
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  Speaker 4: which is I mean, everyone in the writing staff is nice,
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  Speaker 4: but you are I know, you put off this kind
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  Speaker 4: of bad boy persona of course, but on the inside
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  Speaker 4: you are just a genuinely sweet person.
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  Speaker 3: I've got everyone fulled.
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  Speaker 4: You can cut this out of the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, this is going to ruin your reputation as a
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  Speaker 4: Hollywood bad boy. I understand. So I'm sorry to no.
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  Speaker 3: I really I had a great time working there, but
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  Speaker 3: it was I started working there in twenty fourteen. And
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  Speaker 3: and we won't get two. We can't get too political
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  Speaker 3: because no one wants to think about this asshole.
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  Speaker 4: What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Nanny Rick?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump? But his campaign, his early campaign started while
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  Speaker 3: I was working, Yes, And the mental toll it took
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  Speaker 3: on me just then, HM, for the early days was like,
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine doing this thinking about this guy every
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  Speaker 3: day forever. And the strength of the Jimmy Kimmelives staff
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  Speaker 3: to not only be thinking about this guy, but to
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  Speaker 3: actually have gotten under his skin. It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we're not a healthy group of people
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  Speaker 4: insider out, but you know it. The only benefit I
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  Speaker 4: think is we have something to talk about every day
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  Speaker 4: that everyone is already aware of. And you know, as
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  Speaker 4: a comedy writer, if there's something you're trying to talk
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  Speaker 4: about and you have to explain it for a minute,
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  Speaker 4: or two before you start trying to tell jokes about it.
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  Speaker 4: It it kind of hurts the jokes. But everyone knows
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  Speaker 4: what this man is doing at all times. They track
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  Speaker 4: him like some sort of farm animal with a tag
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  Speaker 4: in his ear. Everyone knows his every move, and so
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  Speaker 4: we don't have to explain what's going on. Everyone already knows.
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  Speaker 4: You can get right to the punchline.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's very unfair to compare farm animals to
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trumam.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, leave them all. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember the first time I met you was
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  Speaker 3: it was such a that I hadn't worked as a
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  Speaker 3: professional writer yet, and Jimmy brought me in and I
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  Speaker 3: met you too, and it was I had truly like
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  Speaker 3: memorized the show in a way, and then it was
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  Speaker 3: just a casual conversation that was threw me off in
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  Speaker 3: such a way. It was basically like, what music do
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  Speaker 3: you listen to? We just wanted to make sure you're
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  Speaker 3: not a psycho.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's mostly if you're coming in for a meeting
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  Speaker 4: like that, at least at a comedy show. Usually we've
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  Speaker 4: read material and we go, okay, clearly this person is funny,
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  Speaker 4: and then we just want to make sure that like
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  Speaker 4: you don't have a like a.
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  Speaker 3: Weird haircut or smell.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can get a vibe, but like within
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  Speaker 4: ten seconds we go, oh this, oh, this is a
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  Speaker 4: nice person. And you spend a lot of time when
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  Speaker 4: you work on a TV show, you just spend a
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  Speaker 4: lot of time with these people, and so you need
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  Speaker 4: to make sure. Yeah there's no sociopaths trying to.
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  Speaker 3: Sneak in, right, So yeah, you basically just have to
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  Speaker 3: be friends. That's a big surprise about getting writing jobs.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like, oh, you're just a large part of
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  Speaker 3: it is being tolerable.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, And you know, like if you consider it
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  Speaker 4: a computer and crank out some work, that's one thing.
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  Speaker 4: But if you do that while you're being very unpleasant
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  Speaker 4: to those around you, it really ruins the experience. And
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  Speaker 4: I mean we're there, you know. It's like a sixty
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  Speaker 4: hour plus a week job, depending on the week and stuff,
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  Speaker 4: and so if you're doing it with miserable people, it
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  Speaker 4: makes it one hundred times worse.
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  Speaker 3: Right, right, And are you off for the summer or
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  Speaker 3: what's going on?
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  Speaker 4: No, Jimmy takes the summer off now and we have
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  Speaker 4: guest hosts all summer so we have a rotating band
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  Speaker 4: of the wonderful people who come in and host. We
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  Speaker 4: just sit a week with Anthony Anderson, who we love
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  Speaker 4: and does it every year. We did a week with
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  Speaker 4: Diego Luna Ofstic and Or fame, who is a fantastic guy,
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  Speaker 4: would be really.
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  Speaker 3: Nice Star Wars person at all obsessed with that or.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I've heard people say that. It's like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to speak ill of my parent company, but
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  Speaker 4: I will say that, like, I'm a lifelong Star Wars sure,
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  Speaker 4: and I think, unfortunately for Disney, like and Or is
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  Speaker 4: the best Star Wars thing they have going right now.
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  Speaker 4: And I say unfortunately because it's a very adult show.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no baby Yoda there, there's no there's no
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  Speaker 4: merchandise to be had of Nandor. But he's just clothes
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  Speaker 4: exactly right, with no labels or anything. Again, cool jackets, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but they already kind of a lot. Actually, I'm getting
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  Speaker 4: served ads on Instagram that look like things and Or
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  Speaker 4: would wear, and which is a very precise thing for
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  Speaker 4: my algorithm to be doing. But they're not They're not
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  Speaker 4: marketed by the Walt Disney Company.
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  Speaker 3: Right, of course, it's shipping out of somewhere and will
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  Speaker 3: probably smell like damp clothes or something falls apart as
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  Speaker 3: soon as you open the bag. Yep, my algorithm has
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  Speaker 3: fallen apart. I don't know that it knows me anymore,
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  Speaker 3: which is probably good. But I feel like the ads
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  Speaker 3: I'm being served are nothing. I'm I would like to
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  Speaker 3: eventually the algorithm to find one thing I actually want
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  Speaker 3: to buy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you'll be like, proud of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be like, you really broke through to a
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  Speaker 3: mentally ill person.
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  Speaker 4: You were listening?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Because I feel like, like door to door sales
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  Speaker 3: people can eventually break people down, and when they come
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  Speaker 3: to my house, I'm like, there is no I won't
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  Speaker 3: spend money on things I need like desperately. The fact
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  Speaker 3: the idea of a stranger showing up and convincing me
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  Speaker 3: what a waste of their time, although somebody did get
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  Speaker 3: me into the backyard once and had me signing all
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  Speaker 3: these contracts. What solar panels? I think, oh really, because
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  Speaker 3: they've started dressing up. They wear like neon vasts, like
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  Speaker 3: city workers, or like a child's idea of what a
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  Speaker 3: city worker is. Yes, and they show up and act
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  Speaker 3: like they're part they work with the state. And the
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  Speaker 3: guy had me for a long time, to the point
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  Speaker 3: that I had wasted so much of his time that
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  Speaker 3: when I said, eventually, I'm not doing this, I was like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 3: he's going to come back in a bad way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I assume anyone who comes to my door,
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  Speaker 4: no matter what they say, is trying to start a
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  Speaker 4: home invasion robbery, and I treat them as such. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not exaggerating. People will say they're my neighbors, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, right, creep, get out of here. And
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  Speaker 4: I anyone I've even I think you would, I hope
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  Speaker 4: would agree. I'm a generally polite person. Sure I will
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  Speaker 4: literally close the door in people's faces right now, I
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  Speaker 4: and only in certain situations. But someone came literally I'm
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  Speaker 4: putting my kids to bed and someone comes claiming to
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  Speaker 4: be from AT and T. This is it's nighttime, right,
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  Speaker 4: And this person's claim to me from AT and T
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  Speaker 4: and they want to sell me some service, and I
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  Speaker 4: just went I'm not interested, and he goes wait, and
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  Speaker 4: I literally just closed the door and locked it. Because
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  Speaker 4: that's like getting a spam call. Are you obligated to
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  Speaker 4: pick up a spam call and politely tell the person
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  Speaker 4: you're it's like, no, you just hit that button, you
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  Speaker 4: hang up. I now do that. I do a live
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  Speaker 4: in person version of that now.
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  Speaker 3: Because they're relentless, they're trained to be like just never
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  Speaker 3: give up. Yes, And so I think that that's just
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  Speaker 3: now their experience of people being like, Okay, I'm no
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  Speaker 3: longer talking to you because you won't leave me alone.
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  Speaker 4: And I feel bad. I know this, this is not
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  Speaker 4: this person's choice. They're doing it for money, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and they're probably not getting paid too much. But I
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  Speaker 4: I just I it's like I want to slam the
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  Speaker 4: door in the face of their corporation. And and so
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  Speaker 4: that's that's the closest I can get to, right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, as someone who comes from door to door
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  Speaker 3: culture Utah Mormon culture at a lot of these door
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  Speaker 3: to door salesmen come from Utah because they're former Mormon missionaries.
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  Speaker 3: And then these companies like the bug spraying or the
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  Speaker 3: alarm sales or what have you, are often out of
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  Speaker 3: Utah and they train these like teenagers basically who have
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  Speaker 3: already been through a relentless door to door experience. They're
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  Speaker 3: like sleeper agents. Yeah, totally. So now I feel told.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I know exactly what's going on. You're not
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  Speaker 3: kidding me, but I just shouldn't open the door. Who
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  Speaker 3: comes to the door.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and usually I don't because I have a video
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  Speaker 4: door bell, so usually I can see. But sometimes they're
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  Speaker 4: tricky if they're not wearing the vest. That's kind of
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  Speaker 4: where they get you, because because I'm often like, maybe
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  Speaker 4: this person hit my car accidentally and they're coming to
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  Speaker 4: tell me, and if I just don't answer the door,
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  Speaker 4: they'll get away scott free. So street close is actually
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  Speaker 4: a good way to trick me. And I'm gonna give
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  Speaker 4: my address out on the podcast for all home and bakers.
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  Speaker 3: Just everyone get your pen and paper out. No, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like they just need to switch. They need to
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  Speaker 3: start recruiting like women seventy five plus, Yes, older grandma's
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  Speaker 3: so it'd be like, wait, what's going on. Then you
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  Speaker 3: open the door and then it's a really pushy old woman.
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  Speaker 4: And they take a really long time to give you
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  Speaker 4: the sales pitch, and you feel like you have to
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  Speaker 4: invite them in time.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, or very small children, yeah, one or the other.
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  Speaker 3: You can't have just like a healthy thirty year old like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, this isn't working.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I have small children. They would be terrible
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  Speaker 4: at this. They would get easily distracted. They would give
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  Speaker 4: up after the first house.
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  Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah, right, No, I how did we get
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  Speaker 3: to hiring old women to go door to door? It's
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  Speaker 3: always hard on this show. Oh we were talking about
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  Speaker 3: the guest shows and an andor, but I'm just going
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  Speaker 3: to say something. I was deeply jealous. I think it
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: was last year he had Martin Short and see.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that was a comedy writer fantasy camp of course
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  Speaker 4: situation he hosted for four nights, and he told us,
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: he goes, I'm thinking about doing the last night as Jimmy.
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  Speaker 3: Glick by Heart. Oh my god, he goes, so is
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  Speaker 3: that okay?
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  Speaker 4: We would that's yes, that's definitely okay. And it was
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  Speaker 4: just like a magical week. He put so much work
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  Speaker 4: into it, and you would think like, ah, maybe he
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  Speaker 4: just cruises in and you know, is just kind of
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  Speaker 4: phoning it in, right he I mean it was months
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  Speaker 4: of phone calls and then because I'm one of the
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  Speaker 4: head writers, he goes, can I have your phone number?
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: I was like yeah, and then yeah, and then I
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  Speaker 4: would be like I'd be with like my like take
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  Speaker 4: my son to a birthday party and be like Martin
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  Speaker 4: Short is calling me hold on and he just have
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  Speaker 4: an idea he'd want to talk to me about. And
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: it was so it was it was kind of like
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: we were dating for like six weeks and Marty reach out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was beautiful. But then and then so Jimmy Glick
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  Speaker 4: was the you know, the the final We pretended like
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  Speaker 4: Marty was hosting three nights and then he needed Thursday
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  Speaker 4: off and Jimmy Glick was coming in. And the writing
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  Speaker 4: I our writers have never come more alive than the
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: assignment of going, Okay, Jimmy Glick's gonna interview Bill Hayter
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  Speaker 4: and Sean Hayes and we need to write questions. And
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  Speaker 4: that was some of the most fun I've ever had
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  Speaker 4: writing comedy. And Marty is really particular about like he's
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  Speaker 4: like Jimmy Glick isn't mean, He's like an idiot, and
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: sometimes he's such an idiot that he is mean, and
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  Speaker 4: he had he has it so figured out and it
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  Speaker 4: was really fun. So we did some pre tapes with
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  Speaker 4: Click and then Click hosted the live show too, and
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: Melissa McCarthy and Kroll were the guests. It was just
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: it was such a chaotic, crazy day. He it takes
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: some kind of all day to get into the prosthetics
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  Speaker 4: and writers meetingthetic. It really, it really was. And we'd
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: be doing writers meetings throughout the day where he had
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  Speaker 4: his like regular Martin short body, but the Jimmy glick head,
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  Speaker 4: and it was it was such a surreal day.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, and that's something like it's such
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: a risky thing to take a character like that and
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  Speaker 3: try that could have been a disaster. It was so good.
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  Speaker 4: And and he even kind of expressed to us, he goes,
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know if a people remember the character or
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  Speaker 4: if it could still be kind of done today. And
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: I think he felt from us and everyone involved in
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: those shows, the celebrities, they're just like there's such a
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  Speaker 4: love for him and that character that there's kind of
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  Speaker 4: a grandfathering in of things. And there's also certain he goes,
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: there's some things Jimminy Click used to do that he
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  Speaker 4: will of course no longer do. And he was really
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: good at finding the balance of still keeping it having
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: its edge, but still fitting in with twenty twenty four.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, someone of his age, and like, I feel like
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: a lot of guys at that age are like, oh, oh,
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: you can't do anything anymore. I can't believe. And he
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: just walks the line perfectly. He's so funny. Oh yeah,
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: truly one of the all times. So are you doing
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: anything with a little bit of free time you have
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: during the summer.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to see my kids here and there. I'm married,
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: I have full custody out not one of those situations,
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: but it's very bad. But yeah, no, I we work
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: such long hours at the show, and you know the
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: summer guest hosts they are they require a lot of
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: work too, So I when I'm at work, I'm very consumed.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: But when I try to when I walk in the door,
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: I try to be a full time dad and father.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: I'm we're doing I took my kids camping for the
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: first time. Where did you go? We were down at
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: this place. It's called Elmorro down in Orange County. It's
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: Orange County. Yeah, it's by the beach. I knew they
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: would not sleep in a tent. They kept telling me
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: they were afraid of bears. I said, there are no
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: bears at the beach, But I rented, like, I found
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: a company. I will drop off an airstream trailer at
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: your campsite.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: So they, Oh my god, for them.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: This was roughing it. You know, for anyone who's actually
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: been camping that it looked ridiculous.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Monsters.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know, but it's I'm trying to
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: ease them into like I feel like my son would
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: maybe maybe camp in a tent after that experience. So
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: I'm trying.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: To make an airstream on the beach. That sounds lovely.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was still like a state campsite,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: you know, but it was fun. The we got so sunburned,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: we're so white, our family and I have a yeah,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: I have a I will not take off my shoe
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: and show you, but I have a I have a
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: sandal tan for the first time in my life, and
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: I do not like it. I am I am humiliated
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: by it.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Are kids now? Is there any like level of scouting
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: for either of your kids in the future, boy girl,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: some other type of scouting?
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: So I was I was a boy scout, right, I
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: forget it?
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Were you full eagle scout?
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Night right?
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Personal nightmare for me?
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: What was your eagle Scout project?
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: It was we collected used clothes for and this is
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: like the one thing that Scouts do, or it's like, okay,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: you did something that actually contributed to the world. We
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: collected to use clothes for the one of the local
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: hospitals for people who like don't have clothes coming out
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: of the hospital.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: That's a great project, right.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: If the rest of the boy Scout thing had gone away,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: if I had just gotten to collect to use clothes
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: for this, great But.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: What did you do? So I did not get anywhere
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: close to eagle Scout. But here's my situation. So my father,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: my grandfather, and my great grandfather all Eagle Scouts.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Oh no, family disappointment.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, And then it got to me, and so I
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: did club Scout and I did about I think it
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: like two years of boy Scouts. I think I got
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: to like second class. I think as a rank. I
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: forget where that is exactly. But I had a like
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: a bad boy Scout troop where. And my dad was
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: so understanding and he was not disappointed when I quit,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: because he goes. When I was a boy Scout, we'd
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: like hop in a jeep and we'd drive to Mexico,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: would camp and it was like amazing. It was like
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: something out of like a Norman Rockwell beautiful and like
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: that meant a lot to him. But he come to me,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: come with me to these meetings just in like a church,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: you know, rec center kind of thing. And it was
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: it was run by adult men who never really amounted
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: to much in their lives, but they enjoyed yelling at
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: a bunch of young kids and neckerchiefs, you know that
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: that made them feel powerful. And so it was just
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: like lessons out of the handbook and like no, no
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: real experiences. So so I ended up bailing on it.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: But it's I would love if my kids were interested
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: in Scouts. It is weirdly now it's old fashioned because
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: boy Scouts are like nice and help their community, right
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: like that, that's like that's like a unheard of today. Yes,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: but the idea like if you went, if you showed
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: up in a uniform going like I'd like to help
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: the elderly, they think you were up to something.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, what are you trying to take from us?
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I there is a there's a boy Scout
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: troop in our neighborhood. I keep trying to like explain
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: to my son that it's fun. He seems very skeptical.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Is that dorks?
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean I guess that goes that's part
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: of the boy scout motto. I think, uh right, but
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: it's like it would be fun. I'm lucky as a parent.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: I'm lucky in a way that my kids have no
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: interests and so right, my weekends are not I'm not
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: at a soccer field, you know, they're really the birthday
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: party stack up.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: But that sounds awful. It seems like the pressure of
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: those has gotten way out of control.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Well yes, however, I to a bad one recently and
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: that was enraging. It was enraging. So I feel like we,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: my wife and I have gotten decent at throwing a
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: kid's birthday party and we don't go crazy. We have
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: friends who go crazy and it's months of planning and
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: it's thousands of dollars and they build think got costumes
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: out of Amazon box and like god, God bless them.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: They're better parents than we have.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but we we like.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: The time is very important. The only time you should
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: have a kid's birthday party is Saturday from ten to noon.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Anything outside of that is a criminal offense because like it.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: This one I went to started at five pm.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, oh, that is unfair to everybody.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: I don't want it at that time.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: No, And it was not explained why. It wasn't like, oh, hey,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: like that's when we get off work. This was five
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: pm on a Saturday. We're in dinner time all of
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: a sudden, yes, yes, and so there's a lot of
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: stuff we can't do because we got to be at
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: this place at five. And then we show up and
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: there's kind of nothing for the kids to do. We
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: just show up and we're just in a backyard and
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: the kids are just sort of milling about, and then
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: it's me and these parents I've never met before, all
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: lovely people. And then there's like there's a cooler and
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: the cooler has some sparkling water and it has like
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: three beers in it, which was a kind of a
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: mixed message, right, Like sometimes you show up one of
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: these parties and the parents are kind of like, hey,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: there's juice boxes if you want sang grey We got
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: saying like they kind of let you know what's going on,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: or you know, when we throw one and it's from
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: ten to noon again the only appropriate time for a party.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: We have ic coffee for the parents, reactice tacos. You
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: gotta kind of you gotta put the parents, yes, exactly,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: and because you know, the parents don't really want to
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: be there, they're just coming so their kid can come.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: So you got to kind of like set up a
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: little kind of a lounge situation for them. They have shade,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: they have drinks, all that kind of stuff. But this
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: it was just a weird situation. And it went on
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: for about three hours. And then I was kind of
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: the first one to be like, well, I'm gonna go.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: And my was not upset that I told him it
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: was time to go. He goes all right. Then we
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: just we just got up and left.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: You know, it seems like these were loser parents looking
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: for adult friends, and they're using the child as an
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: excuse to get people over.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: They were sweet people, it was just they didn't think
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: through the flow of the party. You know, you when
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: you throw a party. I imagine I have them at
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: ten to two with adults. There are juice boxes and
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: there are three beers. But I imagine you think a
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: lot about I think you and I similar in this
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: way about Okay, when people show up, what do they see?
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: How are they greeted? What is the journey they're going
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: to have a party there?
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I send emails that are borderline rude to my guests,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: and I'm not kidding. I say the party will be
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: ending at eleven o'clock and I will tell you to
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: leave because that's when I go to bed. Yeah, yeah,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: that's like boundaries.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: People do want this because then it also avoids the
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: weird thing where the person drinks a little too much
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: and they came out a little too long and they're
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: not picking up on any social cues all the summer,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: and you probably come out and you're in you're matching
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: pajamas and nightcap. You're about to blow out the adult Yea.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: The emails are like, I will tell you to leave
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: my house, so just be prepared to go. Good. People
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: are so refreshed by this, so like I I don't
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: have to like be polite and stay around longer than
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I need to. I just know it'll be time. You should.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: People leave ten minutes before the time I tell them
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: they have to leave them Like, thank god, I.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: See to the people stay at a party longer than
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: they want to.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Of course I'm the only person who doesn't. I'm again
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: rude in those situations where I show up for fifteen
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: to twenty minutes and then I leave.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: When you leave, because you and I've been at a
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: few parties together, like you know, work parties and cousins.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Sal would have a Halloween party, we'd be there. What
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: was your method for leaving? Did you what they call
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: an Irish goodbye, which is probably a kind of a
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: racist term, you know, cultureless term. I don't know, but
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: do you Irish goodbye?
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I do Irish or French exit Irish goodbye? Although I
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: actually will say I think I've kind of turned it
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: on its head in a way of where I'm I'm
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: loudly just saying I'm leaving without but I'm not saying goodbye.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: You just yell it to the place.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I just decide it's time for me to leave, and
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: then anyone I see on the way, I say I'm leaving,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I'm leaving. I'm leaving. The host has no idea what's
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: going on. Good but there's no like, there's no formal
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: anything for me. I just I'm like, oh god, I've
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: hit my end point. I'm out of here.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like you finish the most boring conversation you will
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: have at the party, and you go, I'm good, I'm
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: going to leave.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: But actually not even the most boring. I think this
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: throws people off where they'll be like, oh, I thought
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: we're having a good conversation and he decided to leave.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: We were having a good conversation. Yeah, I just didn't
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: want to be there anymore.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I want to go out on top. Yes, it's not
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: going to get any better.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Than this, right, I'm done with my diet coke and
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: it's eight fifteen. Right, Yeah, I'm partied out.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Well, but part of it and you don't drink correct, No,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: And so that also I don't know that I've been
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: at a lot of parties where I haven't had, you know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: a glass of wine or something like that, and that
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: it must be so annoying for you to be at
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: parties I don't like. I mean, I guess this is
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: like the mystique and like the sort of the hook
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: of alcohol right where you're like, I can stay at
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: a place I don't want to be about ninety minutes longer. Yes,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Because I also imagine as people are getting drunk around
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: who you're going like this is the last place on earth.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: I want to be a zero tolerance for a drunk person. Yeah,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: or even like a dear friend. I'm not putting up
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: with that. Yeah, I'm moving away from the right. I
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: don't want to speak to you. I don't want you
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: draping over me. You're not funny, you're not entertaining. You're
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: on my nerves. I have caffeine in me. Yeah, my
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: anxiety is already too high.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: That's right. I'm surprised to drinking a diet coke at
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: eight thirty. I mean, that's like it's gonna Circadian raffeine.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: That's my diet. Coke is my night caffeine. Coffee is
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: my day caffeine.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: You when do you cut it off?
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Usually it's getting earlier and earlier. I think I can
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: drink a cold brew until about two thirty. Now.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Oh see that that's even risky for me.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: What's yours?
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Well? I read a book by doctor Sanjay Gupta. Okay, sure,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know why I did that.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: I just I just sort of read it. I enjoyed it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: But one of the only thing I remember from the
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: book is don't drink caffeine past noon. Wrong, I forgot
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: I'm talking to doctor Bridger Wineger, but I.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Could qualify at this point.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Well, I think so. From what I understand, it stays
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: in your system for about twelve hours. So this is
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: a new way of added anxiety into my life. Where
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I'm doing math, I go, when will I be going
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: to bed tonight? Right? And so if I go, wow, oh,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: I have movie tickets, so you know, maybe it'll be
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: eleven thirty, then I will drink caffe until about eleven thirty.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I'm drinking coffee right now, and it's actively making nervous
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: because it is Friday when we're taping this, Like, okay,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I can be up a little late tonight. Maybe maybe
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: I'll be a little groggy in the morning. But it's
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: a it's a weird boundary I have put on myself.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: What is it hot or cold brew or what is it?
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: This is cold? And I'm embarrassed to tell you because
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: this seems like the least like cool anything to say.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: But my favorite iced coffee is the bottled Starbucks.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Oh that is airplane drink.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: I know, I know. I told you I was embarrassed,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: and I will still go to you know, I live
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: in Burbank, and I have three great little coffee shops,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: and I frequent them all equally to keep them all
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: in business. I'm a good local business purveyor. But if
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I'm being honest, when I my favorite and our coffee
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: maker broke recently, and so I had so each for
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: about a week, every morning I was going up and
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: I was getting my wife and I coffee at Starbucks,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: and I told her, I go, I hate that I'm
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: saying this. I like this coffee we're drinking, and I
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: wouldn't do it because I'm so cheap that I would
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: never go to Starbucks every morning. But also factoring into
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: the cheap thing, you know, the cold werew you buy
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: your favorite coffee shop? How much is that?
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: It's? How much is it? Now? It's five dollars.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: A bottle of the Starbucks iced coffee, not even cold
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: brew coffee. I'm so humiliated. I know, I know, but
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: it costs five dollars and fifty cents for an entire bottle.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: I'll drink it for a week and a half, and
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: that's just a savings I cannot deny.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Well, I make my own cold brew at home.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Oh you do?
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: So? I mean the caffeine consumption. It is self medicating
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: in a way. But I will I make my own
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: for my morning cold brew and then depending on like today,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: I half of mineus in the fridge now, but if
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I'm recording, I'll get it right before. But I'll usually
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: get a cold brew starting at one to one thirty
• 28:03
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• 28:07
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• 28:10
  Speaker 3: But I'll usually get one at one to two o'clock
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: and then drink. Now now that I'm on well Bututrin,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: I'm drinking about half a cup of cold brew in
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: the afternoon. Save it the psych what I'm doing right now,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: the way I expose myself on this podcast, it's insane.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: But the cold brew, then it sits in my fridge
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: overnight and I drink half of that in the morning
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: with my homemade cold broom.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Now, do you make the cold brew, because it tastes
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: better when you make it.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I make it. It is better than like if I
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: you know a lot of those bottled ones, there's something
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: going on. It tastes kind of dusty.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're a little acidic.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say, like the who makes some good ones.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Some of the more expensive ones are good, but they
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: are like they're actually very expensive to buy a huge
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: thing of expensive cold brew.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Some of that if you go to like a little
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: hipster grocery store, you like a little sick sounds like
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: a oat milk latta thing is like six dollars.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: That does not taste that good.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: No, And look, I'm a suburban dad. I'm looking. I'm
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: looking to pinch pennies wherever I can. I'm not ashamed
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: of that. I Uh, my brother and I were making
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: beer in my backyard for a few this is years
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: ago now, and we were like, we're geniuses. Think about
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: how much we're gonna save on beer. It turns out
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: it costs ten times as much to make your own beer.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: It tastes terrible, And I was getting food poisoning from
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: because like you're you like sterile it. You use old
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: beer bottles, you sterilize them. But I think there was
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: a some sort of kink in our sterilization process. And
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: I would constantly get horrific food poisoning from drinking this beer.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: And then my wife goes, she goes, you know, like
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: beer is like really cheap to buy like at the
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: store kind of notoriously the cheapest alcohol, and you and
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: your brother are spending so much time. We had like
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: bubbling like cases of beer in like our in our bathroom.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: My wife hated it, and she goes and you're you
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: will potentially end up in the hospital from drinking and unsterilized,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: and they can explode.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, I've not even on TV. I've seen it on TV,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: but I know people whose beer has exploded in their garage.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Dangerous thing.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was doing that all to say, to
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: save money. Oh, I'm bond with my brother, I guess.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: But so all I'm saying is like if you're if
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: you're making it because you make the best col brew
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: in the.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: World, I certainly don't. I would support it. Tolerable, Yeah,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: but I'm just in the I've been doing it for
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: almost ten years now. Oh really, I got a whole system,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: the Toddy system.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: It's not a competition, Well it is actually, and I'm
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: winning in a huge one. Well, speaking of doing terrible things,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: there's something else I hate to talk to you about.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I hate to even bring it up. I thought things
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: were going okay. I was excited to have you here
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: on the podcast. I thought, Danny and I've worked together.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I know he's professional, he's he's not going to try
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: to stir up anything. The podcast is called. I said
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: no gifts, so I was a little surprised when you
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: showed up on my doorstep. Would not supp ringing the doorbell,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: banging on the door. There was some yelling. Then you've
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: tried to pull away, and I finally ran out and
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: uh waved you down. And you've stopped in the middle
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: of the street. It's your car is idling right now.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: And stepped out of the car holding what's clearly a gift. Yeah,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I mean that's that's your response.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Look, I I miss you. I hope that was clear
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: and and I haven't seen you in probably a year,
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: and I wanted you to know that I'm always thinking
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: about you, okay, and so this was just a little
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: way to let you know what you mean to me.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, my heart has melted, Okay, my heart is a puddle. Well,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: you've you've brought this gift. It's an adorable little blue
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: bag with anchors on it. Are away.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Because you know you're you kind of anchor me. You know,
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: you've always kind of been my rock.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Right. Since I've left the show, You've I've heard you've
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: lost lost it? Yeah you think was how you have us? Said? Yeah,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: well should I open it here on the podcast?
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want to.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's we've got some tissue. I feel like
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: we're not getting enough tissue on the podcast anymore. It's
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: not throwing enough car speaking air pods. Okay. Oh and
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: I've thrown that into my garden.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: We'll take that out where the mole will eat it later.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, now we're reaching in. Should I pull this
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: all out at once?
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, because it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Feels like there's so yeah.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's three three items, three parts of it. Yeah.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is fantastic. They're vintage TV guides.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And you know, you and I both are television writers,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: and everyone in our industry is happy to tell you
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: that the television industry is dying. And I was in
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: a shop in my neighborhood and they were selling these
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: vintage TV guides from the mid nineties, and I thought
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: this might transport us back to a happier time in
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: our industry.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: When it felt like a financially stable future. Yes, right, right, Well,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I mean this is thrilling. I mean, let's talk about
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: these covers for We've got one with Kevin Sorbo, totally topless.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and this was before he was a conspiracy theorist again,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: a nicer time, right, he was just an oily man
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: who was on network television.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: My friends, this is just a very small side. My
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: friends Brett Evans and Nick Ciarelli, two of the funniest
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: people I've created. I think during the pandemic a video
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: about Kevin Sorbo saying that Kevin Sorbo had died, and
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I think it went kind of viral in a way
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: that people started to wonder, had Kevin Sorbo died filming
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: a commercial for an iPhone gambling? I can't remember exactly,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: but if people type that into Google, they'll probably get
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: to see the video. So we've got Kevin, and we
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: should circle back to Kevin. Surely we have the years
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: and cheers and jeers with Burt Reynolds and who's this one?
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: You know what I was hoping you would know. I
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: figured you might know more than me.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, there are two women. There's a Oh, this is
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Dave Letterman's mom right in the middle. Oh, oh god,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: that's Dorothy Letterman. How crazy. But then there's a woman
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: on top home. Sorry, there's a woman with kind of
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: renaissance curls red hair. She's got a rose in her mouth.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: And the real star of that one, though, is the
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: ad on the back. If you flip it over. Oh
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: my god, it's a cigarette cigarette ad with a you know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: now when you see cigarette ad, if you see them,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: there's a very long disclaimer. This has a very soft
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: disclaimer about cigarettes on it. Oh wow, it's like they
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: it's like, maybe you don't smoke in a hospital. It's
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: basically what it's says.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: The kind of is a cigarette smoke contains carbon monoxide.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: But they don't like if somebody didn't know what that was,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: they'd be.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Like, okay, okay, sounds good.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it tastes like you. It's just like essentially a
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: picture of your grave.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Yes, they just put corpses on there.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Now, Yes it's a mirror at that time magazine. But
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: this is a gorgeous come to Marlboro, maryl Bor Wait,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I haven't said this, Marl Burrow. I said Marlborough in
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: such a long time. Yeah, is that how we say
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: the cigarette company?
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: Mark? Whoa Marlborough is? I would say that might be wrong.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: There's and allan there.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like you say like Carl. I think
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: you say Marlborough.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that I've ever said the word alone.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: With just a couple of just a couple of dudes
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: talking about cigarettes.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: One of my jobs was a secret shopper for cigarettes.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: What when I was living in Utah, I would drive
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: from gas station to gas station. You know, I looked
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: like you know, when I was like twenty, I looked
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: like I was fourteen, sure, And so I would go
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: to these places and ask to buy cigarettes and see
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: if they would ask for my ID. Ask for my
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: ID every single time. Of course, but the company who
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: hired me had never seen me, so they didn't realize
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: that they were essentially sending a child out. And everyone,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: of course would ask for my I D right, But
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: I was ordering camel lights, that was my brand.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, don't order something to believe? What were you deputies
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: to arrest the people on the spot.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: They should have given me a gun gun in execution
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: right there. But yeah, I never ordered this brand. And
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I've really exposed myself with someone who's never smoked. Yeah, well,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: never been able to. They wouldn't even let me purchase
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: the cigarettes.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: You know, I'd like to come back, you know, maybe
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: in like a year, I'd like to come back and smoke.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: I've never smoked a cigarette either, smoke our first cigarettes together.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe it should be this brand. I can't believe I
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: have much advertising we've given a cigarette.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: I know that is a big That is a big
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: ad in the back of that too. Yeah, hey, this
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: could be a good sponsor though for this podcast.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: A lot of cigarettes advertising. At least mark that down.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I want to become a cigarette podcast. We should probably
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: put a disclaimer right now that cigarettes will give you
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: lung cancer. Yeah, sure, respons We have a lot of
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: tweens listening.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah sure, yes, yeah, I know, I know you're I
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: know you're big in the K pop community, so yes.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah. But Dorothy Letterman and then unknown woman. That's
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: a shame that TV Guide didn't feel like that you
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: should put anyone's.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Name, although at the time I'm sure that was probably
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: like I know, all of course, Yeah.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: These were three of the nine people on TV at
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I I flipped through them briefly earlier,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: and I noticed a trend in there is that they
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: give very literal descriptions of what will be happy on
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: each episode of television. Yeah, like there, let me grab
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: this sect, let me go from this Regius one.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking one with Regis phil but it says Regis
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: rights and he has a giant pens big pencil.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: That's how you know you're right.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: That's kind of the professional look. Yeah, let's see here,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: let's fine.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Some like they'll have uh oh, here's a bridge. I'm
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: just going to show this to you and not the camera.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: But this this is.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: God there's as a racist little rascals doll.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: That's an ad from a different time.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Wow, I wonder what year that is to see this.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Is from August nineteenth, nineteen ninety five. Okay, okay, like okay, Like,
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: here's one. It says, so it's got Grace underfire, Coach,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: the Drew Carey Show and Ellen, and it says tonight
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Drew will blow you away literally and they don't explain
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: what that means.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: What sort of teases that no information.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Tonight Grace is in for the fight of her life
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: on Coach, Hayden gets a full time bodyguard, Tim Conway,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Ellen All New Ellen Unplugged. Special performances by Bonnie Raid,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Aaron Neville and David Crosby.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Here's a good description. A mouse leaves her rural digs
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: to spend Christmas with her urbane cousin in his fancy
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: New York residence. Can you guess the show?
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Say it again?
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Let's see a mouse leaves her rural digs to spend
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Christmas with her urbane cousin in his fancy New York residence.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Sally Jesse Rafiel. Now, HiT's a country mouse in the
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: city mouse. Of course, of course hit. Let's see We've
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: got Sammer or a Samurai cyber squad. Was this a
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: TV show or a movie? God, what a different time
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: See here's one for Chicago Hope. An old friend comes
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: home to die after an all new David Letterman. Here's
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: why Leno goes to Vegas? Tonight show goes to Vegas.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: I'd love to see his guests where Heather Locklear in respect
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: the aforementioned Martin Short, Tracy Ulman, Tom Arnold, Chevy Chase
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: and of course Wayne Newton.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Wow, this is I mean a treasure trove.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Here's an ad for Letterman's fifteenth anniversary. And he's wearing
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: a He's wearing a hat on a shoe. That's how
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: you know, shoe.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: That's a comedy.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Shoe. You know it's a comedy.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he loved doing it. Wow, this is my favorite.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: This isn't in here, but it was from a cable
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: description once of Predator, and I remember it referred to
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Predator as a sneaky alien. Buckle up.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: He's written by people have never seen any of the properties.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Tip toeing alien Predator. Let's see.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Here's one. Here's one for the Simpsons all month long.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: It's homer Mania trapped Tonight, Homer and mister Burns are
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: buried in an avalanche. Who will make it out live?
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Oh that's kind of dark, right, This is kind of
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: a I don't know. This is an art form that
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: no longer exists.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Is they were, like and they were well paid people
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: making these. Yes, that's the craziest thing about this. Like
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: now anything close to this is a blogger who makes
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: like ninety cents a post.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Reviewing the Masked Singer.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, exactly. Let's see. Oh my god, I'm going
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: to just live in these for a while. Do they
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: still do TV Guide?
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I mean, they don't even have
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: like a tv O Guide anymore really like shame. Oh
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: this is agoing in a Groundhog Day was airing at
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: eight o'clock on ABC and it says Bill Murray is
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: in love with Andy McDowell.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: That's all. The main hook of the thing is gone.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: There we go.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: That could be any movie. It's like the easiest to describe.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Everyone knows the plot of that movie at this point,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: and it's so interesting.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: But they were trying to I guess hook the people
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: who read TV Guide at the time and were.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Just like, I don't want any of that science shit.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Let's see there are a lot of full house. Yeah,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: it's a full house period. Jesse's lack of privacy drives
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: him out of the house for a break from the family,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: and he winds up missing the baby's eighteen month birthday party.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Who cares the baby? Yeah, the baby who was the
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: of the babies. I think he has twins twins and
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Lri Laughlin right, they were like, well, we have the
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: twins playing one person. Now, let's get twins playing twins.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: It was Quadruplet's playing twins. No, I'm just making that up. Now,
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: that might be true. It might have to be sense right.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: With the tag rules.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Interesting, Wow, if those are four kids, what was going
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: on in that family? They had four kids and decided
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: to make all of them actors.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Doesn't the premise of full House sound like a fucking
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: nightmare if you were living in it?
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Right? Depressing? Yeah, the whole thing. It's like a guy's
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: wife dies.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's before before you go.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: And then his brothers end up living with him or something.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, isn't I think Uncle Joey I think
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: was the wife's brother. I might be getting this totally wrong, right,
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: and then Jesse Ane Lisa is nodding, she knows. And
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: then Jesse was not related by blood, I don't think, right.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: He was like, he was a friend.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: He was a drifter. It's just a strange man.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: He was. He was the wife, the dead wife's uh
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: husband boyfriend. Yeah he was. He was making love to
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: the wife before she died.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Things are very tense in the tenor household and we're
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: basically family.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that house was not that big. Think about all
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: the the just the number of adults living in that
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: house too much?
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, too much, ones living the attic, ones in the basement.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: One has a failing comedy career, One has failing music career.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: That's the worst part living with a failed stand up
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: comedian while you're trying to raise Both of.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Those guys are on coke.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yes, heavy cokeys. Yes, a failed rock and
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: roll star and a failed stand up comedian.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, they have so many issues. I know you bring
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: those into the house with your chill. What sort of
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: parent his dan?
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable?
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Before the millennials come for me, it is swapped. It
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: is Uncle Joey was the friend and Uncle Jesse.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Oh interesting about Bridger and I are millennials, by the way,
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: let's let's let's.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Give Jen alpha. I'm eleven years old. I am young
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Jen Alfie.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Bridge and I are elderly millennials, is what
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: it is.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: But but uncle Joey was I'm sorry, he was the friend. Yes,
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: he was called the friend. And alanis Morrissett's spurned lover. Yes,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: that was his not only his real story, but also
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: within the show. I believe I've been to Jeff Franklin's house.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: You have nightmarish experience. One of the most bizarre things
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: that's ever happened to me. I was two weeks into
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: dating Jim and he's like, oh, I do these things
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: called living room shows that Ileana Douglas. I don't know
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: if you know who that is. She's like, she was
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: in a bunch of Scorsese movies and started doing these
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: shows in people's living rooms, rich people's houses around la
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: and as a benefit or whatever. And I guess he
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: was doing one about paper straws. This was all before
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: every allegation in the world came out against him. But
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Jim was singing there in front of his shark tank,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: and he's like, I don't think you'd want to go
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: to this. I was like, of course I would want
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: to go to It's built on shar and Tate's property. Wow,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: the tackiest mansion in America. And I got to go
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: and sit through one of the weirdest things I've ever seen,
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: several performers, Jim singing, sit down, you're rocking the boat
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: in front of a shark tank. Wayne Newton was there.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: It was I mean, I'm not surprised you fell in
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: love with Jim that bad night.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: It was a very strange time. And then Jeff Franklin,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: of course, was one of the slimiest people I've ever seen. Wow,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: And again, oh yeah, we're talking about full house and
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: now I think.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: He did get you into the Hollywood illuminati, though, yeah,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: you owe them.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: I think that house is probably still on the market.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: It's like, why would you buy that? There?
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Is Like I live in Burbank and there's a house
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: that has been in sale in the Hills of Burbank
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: for many years now, and it was clearly owned and
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: built and maintained by like someone who was a Hollywood
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: producer who had a lot of money in like nineteen
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: fifty seven, right, and it's so big, and the house
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: is on sale for like eight million dollars. But someone
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: today who has eight million dollars wouldn't be caught dead
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: living there. So it's in this weird real estate sort
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: of limbo where anyone who would actually maybe want to
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: live in the house could never afford it because it's
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: insanely priced.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, that's the thing with all those like super
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: expensive mansions. I always think, well, if I had that
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: much money, I would just get the house I wanted. Yeah,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: why would I buy somebody else's weird idea of a house?
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and someone who like built it, Yeah it was
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: their dream house. But like that changes so generationally so
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: quick course.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and anyone when it's specifically their dream house, they
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: probably have something they will deeply annoy you because they
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: haven't got a very specific idea of how to live.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Even just like like we we just got kitchen cabinets
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: because the ones and we moved into the house. You know,
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: they were like handbuilt, but they're falling apart, and you
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: know in the color is like kind of it looks
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: very like kind of two thousands, and we were like,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: we need some new cabinets. And my father was beside himself.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: He was like, these are beautiful handmade oak cabinets and
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: you're just gonna throw them in the trash And I go, Dad,
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: They're they're literally falling out of the wall. And he goes,
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: what are you getting. I go, I know cabinets dot
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: Com and they're they're Shaker cabinets and he's his mind.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: He was spinning in circles. He couldn't believe it. The
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Eagle Scout was like, I will some men built these
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: with his own blood, sweat and tears, and you're throwing
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: it away some man who's been dead for thirty years.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Probably, But yeah, have they been installed yet?
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they just wanted to feel about them.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: He said nothing when he came over and saw them.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: So I feel like there was some sort of simmering
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: baby boomer rage going on.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: That happens to an old cabinet. It doesn't get sent
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: to goodwill, No, it's destroyed.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: I feel like when you renovate your house, you just
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: have to sort of have a little mental disconnect, going like,
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: this is all just going right in a landfill. Right,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: there's no recycling, there's no it's just it's going right
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: in there.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Right, What is the website? What's the Facebook thing?
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Buy nothing?
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: I think you could put them on by nothing and
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: they would be stripped out of your house within ten minutes.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: We put one thing on buy nothing, and we got
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: like fished, we got scammed.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: You're kidding, Like it wins immediately, We wins in that
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: situation we put we were getting rid of a couch
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: is when we moved, and we're like, I wouldn't rot
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: for this couch anymore.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: And so my wife put it up there and it
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: was like two hundred and fifty bucks and immediately someone responds, going,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: I would like it, and I can't. I can't give
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: you cash. I want to like like send it you
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: something on zell or like a PayPal and I can't
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: pick it up, but I'm going to pay you and
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: then I'm to secure the item and then I'm gonna
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: come pick it up at a later date. We're like,
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: that's weird. And then it was like I sent you
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: a PayPal request, did you get it? And the person
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: got weirdly aggressive, and I was like, I think this
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: is maybe some sort of scam. And we looked it
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: up and it was like that's very common. Yeah, And
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: that was the first thing we ever tried to like
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: sell and buy nothing. I guess is when you give
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: it away for free, So that's different. I guess this
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: was a this was Facebook marketplace, but.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a different whole other game than Yeah.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: But then the buy nothing thing, that is good because
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: it goes to a good place. But then people are
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: coming to your to your house, and that's sometimes they
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: want to inspect the item.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: If you're getting it for free, no question y, Yes
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, you were coming and you're taking
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: it away. Yeah, that's your garbage man, And as far
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, I will leave it in the street
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: for you. Yeah, Because people will be like, I have
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: half a jar of protein powder.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: You can't ask questions about that sort of thing. It's
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: just come get it.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah. My sister in law lives in Manhattan and during
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: COVID there there by nothing. Group was like, very uh,
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: very active. And she said someone was giving away a
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: half eaten cake and there were the number of people
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: who wanted a half eaten cake during the height of
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: the pandemic was believable.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were just experimenting. They were having the time
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: of their lives.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: People a deal.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Well, is there anything left we should say about TV Guide?
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I'm just so excited about these. This is really like
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: up my alley in a way that you have no idea.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: I feel like we haven't. Man, I really want to
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: get in this one.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Let's see. Uh. I love Dylan's dilemma sends him back
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: to the bottle. That's tough to hear. Sister sister appalled
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: by lyrics to a rap song. Lisa and Ray refuse
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: to buy concert ticket for the Twins grow.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Up Weirdly, I'm seeing no Kevin Sorbo interview in this.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: I did see. I'll post a photo of this. Let's
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: mark this as a note to post. It's just it's
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: an ad for ABC Prime Time. And there's a picture
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: of Roseanne and it says ha ha. There's a picture
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: of Ellen, who we all love, and it says ha ha.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: And then there's a picture of who are these two
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: news anchors? There is that Sam Donaldson and Diane Sawyer.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Oh of course Diane own six movies for twenty nine
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: cents each. Did you ever belong to one of those
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: clubs like a Columbia House and you would order like
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: fifty CDs for a dime and then your parents would
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: get billed.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: I think my parents were too cheap. This is why
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: I'm cheap. Is my parents were too cheap to even
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: even give me the penny.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, you wouldn't get I think, Actually,
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: what would happen with Columbia House. I don't know how
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: they stay in business because literally children would sign up
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: and have no means of paying them, and then the kid,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: like I remember multiple times, just being like, well I
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: don't have the money, and then they would just hang
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: up and that was the end of the thing. Oh,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: they must have been losing. I don't know. I don't know.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Oh God, so many cigarette ads do they still print
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: cigarette ads. I'll think.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: So, I think legally you can't.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I think you have to be in a
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: country without those laws.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: The watchful eye of the.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Wow, the gorgeous. I got a real holiday issue. Here.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Are you watching anything on TV?
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: I'm a real, just kind of basic television viewer. I
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: enjoy Marvel shows. I watched Daredevil Born Again, which I
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: was delighted by. I watched the Ironheart series, which I
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: was I'm kind of like a Marvel completist. Even when
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: I'm not as interested in the show, I still I
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: still watch it, and I enjoy all those But you know,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: because we have kids, we have such limited television time,
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: and so like I, you know, I like, on a workday, no,
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: there's no question I will not be watching There's no
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: there's no joy on it, of course, you know, free
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: time on a workday. And then like on the weekends,
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: my daughter who's now eleven, is like, why can't I
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: stay up until ten o'clock? And there's not a good
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: answer to why she can't until And she'll be like, well,
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: what do you guys want to watch? I want to
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: watch it too, and we go, well, you can't watch it,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: and she's like why, and then I have to go, well,
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: there might be like, you know, adults making love and
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: and I can't say that to my daughter, of course,
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: and she also does not Kids don't understand. They can't
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: compute the idea that you would maybe want to not
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: be with them for like one hour, you know. And
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: we're trying to explain like, well, you know, like mom and
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: I like we we have a relationship and you know
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: that was even around before you guys, and you know,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: and we like to have a little time by ourselves.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: And they're like, but like, what do you guys even
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: do when we're here? And the answer is like, we
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: just kind of look at our phones while the show
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: plays on television. But like that's an important, of course
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: saying parents need, but they really can't compute it. So
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: I for me, I have to sometimes I will get up.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: This is so sad, I'm saying this outlied. I will
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: get up at like six am on Saturday, and I'll
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: watch a show before the kids wake up, and I'm
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: happy sleep.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like this is my me and my sister's relationship
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: where she has three kids, and I'll like have finished
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: a series like three months ago and I'll be like,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: what do you mean you saw nine episodes left to watch?
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, because I get to watch ten minutes
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: a day. Yeah, well it's micro does the babysit?
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, even like adolescents, we watch and we really liked that.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: I go, oh, there's only three episodes. We can knock
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: this out on like like a Saturday night maybe, and
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: then then we've watched the show. Right, then we get
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: the the dopamine hit. If we finished a season.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: Some completion of something. Yeah, oh god, yeah, I can't
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: do it. I simply can't. I'm just going to be
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: a child for the rest of my life.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: It's it's an easier way to go. We love our
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: children dearly. But the logistical part of it is it's complicated.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: It's fraught, to say the least.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I feel like we should play a game.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: I would love to on a least should.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: What do you think gift her a cursor? Gift master today,
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: let's do. Let's do gift a curse? Okay, gorgeous, let
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: me get it. I have to get into the dock
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: and do some light calculating, get our game pieces. Great,
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: here's some yardwork starting. Let's all enjoy that. Right now,
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: I need a number between one and ten from you.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna I feel like everyone says seven, so I'm
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: gonna say four.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Okay. I have to do some like calculating to get
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: the game pieces. So promote, recommend to whatever you want.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, great, see promoting. I have a book out. I
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: wrote a book this year called Wow, You Look Terrible.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: It's a it's a parenting book. It's a comedy book,
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: but it's a self help book as well that helps
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: parents get back the three things they lose when they
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: have kids, which is their time, their money, and their mind.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: I think that's out if you're somebody who's not opposed
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: to gifts like bridge. I think it makes a good
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: gift for any parent out there, or you might enjoy
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: it if you're a parent yourself. I'm also a head
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: writer and a producer on a television show called Jimmy Kimmelive.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: That's on weekdays eleven thirty five pm on Channel seven ABC.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: And that's all I got.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Gorgeous. Yeah, everybody, consume, consume, consume, Go get the book,
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: watch the show. Do both at once. Nobody. I mean,
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: that's a that's not a two screen experience. Yeah, no,
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: you feel like that could be a new hybrid of something.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: I only read physical books now, Like I do not
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: like reading on an iPad.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Oh sure, I lost my kindle on the plane source
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: subject for me.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry to hear that. First of all, thank you,
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: but I feel like reading on an iPad. There's too
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: many other like more exciting way can then read a book.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: It's like there's a reason there's no library at Disneyland, right,
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: no one would go in, right, So I feel like
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: I need the physical book because no text messages can
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: pop up, right, there's no Twitter.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: I would say even the kindle is harder to focus
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: on than with a regular book, because you can look
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: up the meaning of any word. Yeah, and like I'll
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: find a word that's like kind of aware of and
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: I'll still look up the definition and then I'm thrown
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: off for a half hour. Yeah, I need to get
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: back into physical books. And maybe the universe is trying well,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: Delta is. I've reported it to the loss of thatut
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: and I'm sure they're on it.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: They've been up all night.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, okay, this is how we play Gift or
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: a Curse. I'm going to name three things. You're gonna
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why?
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: And I don't tell if you're right a wrong, because
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: there are a correct answers. All right. This first one
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: is from a listener named Rick, and it says gift
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: or a curse correcting someone's misuse of a word.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: Curse for sure? Why because the only reason okay, so
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: I should ask of it's the perspective someone correcting you, Danny,
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: or you correcting someone Danny.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not giving you any more information.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: Shoot, okay, all right, okay, well hold on, let me
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: reassess here. Now I'm gonna say curse because the only
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: reason anyone is doing that. You might say it's because, well,
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: I don't want you to keep using the word incorrectly
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: in the future. The only reason you're doing it is
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: to feel superior to the person, I guarantee. And I
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: will do this to my children sometimes because I feel responsible,
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: like if I don't correct it, right, like who else
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: is going to tell them? And maybe I don't want
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: them to be embarrassed at school. But if this is
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: an adult doing it to another adult, absolutely a curse.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Correct. Yeah? This one for me? This I have to
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: just say curse. I mean, what what a rude behavior?
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's no good way to correct the way
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: somebody pronounces a word. Yeah, there's the one where you, uh,
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: just repeat the word using the correct pronunciation. So so condescending,
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: so condescending. Also pointing at ut out you're looking for
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: a fight? Yeah, yeah, what's wrong with you? Just let
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: it go?
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: And I guess this is a misuse, So I guess
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: it could be pronunciation or someone. It's just like, unless
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: you're looking to start a fight. And I support people
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: picking fights all the time, but I have to say,
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: you just don't do it.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: And in your head you do that, and then you
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: imagine that person going, oh my god, thank you for
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: telling me. That's not the emotion. The person feels like,
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: oh you asshole.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, there's actually kind of nothing worse, no
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: worse feeling than someone like, oh you misused that word.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that should be done privately and in shame. Later,
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: if you realize you've been using a word incorrectly, that
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: is a private moment between you and God.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Send it an anonymous letter letting them know, but don't
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: get it in person. Okay, you've gotten one right, so
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: far good.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Number two. This is from a listener named Zach Gift
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: to a curse Toms Chewable Tablets.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Go Gift. Why, well, I should say I've never used that.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: This is funny you bring this something I've never used
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: thumbs before. In the last week and a half, I've
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: had the thought, as a forty year old man, maybe
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: I should start using toms right. So, I'm not speaking
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: from experience here. I'm only imagining what using toms is like.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: But I've been thinking about it quite a bit lately,
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: and perhaps I'm over idealizing the effect of tombs, but
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: I do feel like it will be a positive change
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: in my life should I ever work up the courage
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: to begin using.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Them right right, wrong, augh, curse. This is my thing
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: with the tombs chewable tablet and I've I've had a
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: few experiences in the past. My stomach is essentially steel,
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: but occasionally I push it too far and they work
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: like a miracle.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: They do.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: The taste and texture of this product is one of
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: the worst things you can possibly imagine. Just make it
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: a swallow mobile pill. I don't like the age you
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: need to be to have a tombs you should learn
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: to have swallowed a pill.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: Oh, I see. Yeah, it's sort of like a Flintstone's
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: chewable vitamin for grown adults.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, kid needs a thumbs. Yeah, and look look
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: we are. It goes out to children who need tombs
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: and their heartburn and they're spicy eating. But I feel
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: like for the the audience, the we should just swallow
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: the pill. Because you chew one of these things, it's
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: necho level of disgusting.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: Can you swallow a chewable tombs or is that.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: Choke immediately all instant death? At least tombs. I'm talking
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: to thumbs right now. Gather the office around. Make it
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: a better flavor. It's a candy. Is artificial flavor? Just
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: do a better flavor.
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: Are there distinct flavors because there's different colors in the Again,
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: I'm a I have never heard personally use about the product.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: I'm a neophyte, but I want to know, like are
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: different Like I've tried like those like fiber gummy things
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: and they claim that some are peach and some are strawberry.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: Or is there a singular Tombs flavor or do they
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: kind of mix it up?
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: I want to say that they're different flavors on at
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: least do you think they're like subtle and discuss? They're
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: all bad so it doesn't really matter. But I think
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: feel like there's like a banana strawberry, a.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: Grape banana is a bad choice.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just make them like like a sour candy.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: I guess you all. Then you run the risk of
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: now I want to eat a ton of tons?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: Yes, right, and then you'll get super powers.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Why I don't run a medication company.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: What medication would you take to give you that effect
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: that you would swallow? Is there one on the market
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: or has Tom's completely cornered this area? There must be
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: a pill form of a heartburn medic heartburn medication or nexium?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: Or or is that the cult?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Nexium is some sort of breathing I think yeah, nextium
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: is a cult. There's another thing called Wait, there's nexium
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: the cult. And then there is a product that's very.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: Cool next, because I maybe I've tried that. It's next. Next, No,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: not next, there's.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Something that's like for it's clear your breathing or something interesting. Listener,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: it's nexium that is the pill? What's the cult?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: Or are they kind of under the same umbrellas, the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: cult name, the same parent company.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: What's going on? It's nexum, Yeah, they're both is also
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: called next to them?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: What poor branding on one of their parts. I don't
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: know which one came first, but someone should have googled it.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: I cannot be true.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: What is happening? Well, you didn't get the point. We've
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: got everybody. Look, do your research on medicine and cults.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: We don't want you, you know, thinking you're taking a
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: medication and ending up having being branded or something. Okay,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: this is from a listener named Annie Gift. He a curse.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Stay in your car, oil change places a curse.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: Why you are trapped and there is nothing you can do.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: And I I feel judged. When my car's being worked on,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: I feel like they get in there and they go,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: oh boy, it's been the sky went h thirty five
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: hundred miles instead of the three thousand miles. And we
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: can tell immediately whatever. But when I'm in the waiting
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: room and I'm drinking you know, instant coffee, your room
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: temperature water, I feel like there's a there's a separation
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: that's needed. I kind of feel like you're I feel
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: like i'm in like an aquarium, sort of being judged
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: by these men. Right, I are doing work I wouldn't
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: even know how to start to know how to do
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: on my own car. And I feel like, for social
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: reasons and just just good decorum, you need to separate
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: the customer from the vehicle during these situations. Correct, Yes,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: thank you. Curse.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: I mean there's so many things that could go wrong here.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: First of all, I don't want to be in the
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: car when the thing collapses on the person.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Oh you are at least an accessory of crime.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: If not directly responsible, life is ruined. Yeah, you and
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: your car is haunted horrible.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: Also, what I mean that's them trying to cut costs
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: on those gorgeous little paper cups that you get to
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: drink the water out of. That. I like the taste
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: of that you only ever see the only other places
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: in the dentist's office.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: Yes, and usually you're.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Getting the flora or the scope in those, so you
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: get just the water on paper taste.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: Yet, right, I love.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: Being in a waiting room at an oil change.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: Odd things on the television.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Tile that you'll see in no other building on the planet. Yeah,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: usually a wall that's painted the most garish red you
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: can imagine, or maroon.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I feel like you're.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Saying red or maroon walls and you're s getting to
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: watch Judge Judy.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and what is the benefit to them to staying
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: in the I feel like the pitch is that's a benefit.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: To you at the coom Union.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: It's faster. It can't be faster.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: It's saving probably a total of thirty to sixty seconds. Yeah,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: getting out of the car and walking into the place.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no way it's actually faster for you.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: It's they're cutting costs and making it seem like it's
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: a better thing for it, like they're doing you a favor, right. Yeah,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: I want my free water. I want a few minutes
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: of Judge Judy. Yeah, I want the smell of the place,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: and I want I love when they come in and
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: say your car's done. It's like everything's okay. You get
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: to take your family member home. They're not going to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: die here.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's sort of like like how like babies used
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: to be born. It's like the father would sit out
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: like smoking and they go congratulations, everything went great, and
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: go wow, thank you, and you get to be.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: On your ways. Nice. Exactly, Well, you've got two out
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: of three, all right, absolutely a passing grade. You could
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: have really failed, and that would have been horrifying for everybody.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: I feel like I wouldn't if I had run into
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: you elsewhere after this, I would have absolutely.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, have we met?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: I didn't even have the final doc open, so let
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: me get this open. Okay, here we go. This is
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: the final segment of the podcast. It's called I Said
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: No Emails. People write into I Said No gifts at
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: gmail dot com. They send voice notes that are sixty
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: seconds long in a quiet area. I think that's all
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: you have to do, right, Honalise Onaliz is giving me
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: the thumbs up about that. Uh we you help me
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: answer a question?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: I would love to you.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, this is Hello Bridger, an incredibly talented guest.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: Jury's still out. I live in a beautiful area where
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of hiking and outdoor recreation. With influencers
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: being so prevalent, now we have we have had a
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: hard time going anywhere without loads of people about no
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: more secret spots. I can't decide if it feels good
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: to share the space and see people getting outside and
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: moving their bodies pervert or wishing to keep it to ourselves,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: which feels selfish. Is gate keeping a gift or a curse? Oh?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: This was a secret gift or a curse? Interesting? Come on,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: thank you. And that's from Jenny from the Pacific Northwest PNW.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: As Jenny puts it, okay, all right, I don't think
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: I've ever heard pnd me. I handled that really well. Well. Now,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: I guess we just have to discuss if this is
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: if gatekeeping is a gift or a curse, especially I
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: guess within the realm of outdoor spaces.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think people ruin everything that's nice in this world,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: and so I think it's you should be able to
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: have your own little secret spot like I go, I
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: go hiking in the in the hills of Burbank. When
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: I go hiking and there's like a moderate amount of
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: people up there, you don't want to be totally alone,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: but you want to see someone every twenty minutes and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: you give them a little head nod and.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, when they can find your body.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, there's a there's a last own whereabout situation? Right,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: and maybe you still want to see some wildlife if
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: there's too many people. There's no wildlife all of a sudden,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: And the reason to go to a place like this
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: is to try to find some peace in this fucking
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: nightmare we live in right every day. So if you're
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: there and the word influencer was triggering to me here
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: because I feel like if you are somewhere and there's
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: people recording a TikTok video, that that is the most
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: enraging thing I can run into in like a nature space.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: In a just regular space.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: Yes. By the way, I my zero tolerance thing now
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: is people doing that in like target, like reviewing a
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: product or playing a hilarious little prank in a store.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: I'm here to get mouthwashed, and I'm not part of
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: your show of all time. Yes, but no, I think
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: you should if you have a spot you like, tell
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: no one about it. But do you agree?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: Oh of course. It's a weird. Uh. I feel like
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: if something is a free thing, that is especially it's
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: supposed to be peaceful, keep it to yourself. Yes. With
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: restaurants and stuff, that's a trickier thing where it's like
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: you don't want the restaurant to go out of business, Yeah,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: but you also don't want it to become so popular that.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: It you've along the road there.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: So I don't know how that part of gatekeeping I think. Actually,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: I guess I think all gatekeeping is incredible. I think
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: every gate should be kept.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: You would rather a restaurant go out of business and
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: the owner their family is on the street, as long
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: as you don't have to wait for a table.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that's ultimately I'm with the wake of dead
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: restaurants just in my wake, but with the public space
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: is that sort of thing? I think actively keep it
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: to yourself. Don't even tell close friends, no family members,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: blindfold them. Yes, I just thought of one random question
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: to ask you.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: Yes, and I'm sorry. I know it's the end of
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: the podcast, but it popped into my head and I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: cannot leave until I know the answer. What is your
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: favorite chain restaurant?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Oh? Interesting, this is a great question. Okay, i've recently.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: It's complicated. First of all, the one I go to regularly.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: You're not going to say the name because you don't
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: want people to go there.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: Now, I'll name all of these because who cares. They're
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: all out to ruin each other. And the one that
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: I go to regularly has withstood the storm. Is in
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: and out. Okay, they've managed to continue to expand and
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: be popular and not be disgusting. Yeah, I'll eat a
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: hamburger there once a week. My heart is going to fail.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: A more controversial one in this household currently is I've
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: started going to a place called the Habit or Habit Burke.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: I'm familiar with Habit.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim was away for a while. He's working. He
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: was in a show on Broadway for about six months,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: and I needed a grilled chicken sand which I could
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: not find one anywhere. I found it at the Habit,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: and I was shocked. I thought, this is pretty good.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: This is the qualifier. I kind of describe it as
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: National park food.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: It feels like basically the quality of food that you
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: would get at a like one of the little weird
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: places is at a national park where you like, I'm
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: hungry enough.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, or like or like like you might have it
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: like a water park potentially, Yeah, the.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: Water park is maybe one level bullet Okay, okay, okay,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: but yeah, like you know, it's like this is totally
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: fun edible. But I've been going there, and let's see
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: if I.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: Feel like I should have a third Well, I'm gonna
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: say even those two you named are almost kind of
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: indie in the grand scheme of chain restaurants. There, I
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: was hoping, okay, there was going you were going to
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: be like I love Ruby Tuesdays. I was hoping you
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: had one deep inside. And maybe you.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: Don't like this. I'm trying to think of one I
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: never I haven't been to in probably fifteen years is Chili's. Yeah,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: and I have good fond memories of Chili's me too.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: Chili's was was mine.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But they're not around LA anymore, so I can't
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: really speak to the quality.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't eat gluten anymore, which knocks out almost
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: every chain restaurant there is.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: But I will say this about chain restaurants. My sister
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: is Celiac, and I feel like a lot of chain restaurants.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: I have such strict st that if you do find
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: one that's like gluten frey friendly, they are pretty good
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: They're almost too good about it. I find restaurants that
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: take it seriously. I feel guilty and the manager comes
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: out almost like scared to talk to me, and they
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: go we hear there's a gluten allergy at the table.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: I go, ah, yeah, yeah, we fired your service.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: They ate bread within the last month and they are
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: gone in case they breathe on you. No, I don't
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: have celiac and seag is very serious, like they have
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: to treat it to So I they always ask me
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: allergy or preference right now For me, it is an allergy,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: but it's not a serious allergy. And I know if
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: I say allergy, a whole thing has to have back
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: there of course, So I say preference and then I
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: feel like a Hollywood yeah exactly style, Yeah, yeah exactly.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: And they look at me and they go, You're not
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: that thin, Like what's you don't look healthy. There's not
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: a healthy glow about you. I don't know what you
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: think this is accomplishing.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: Wait, so you would say Chili's. Is there another?
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: Well Chili's? We we only eat at one restaurant. I
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: never eat a restaurants. It was a place called Don
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: Kuco's and Burdbank. Oh that's just you're like just a
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: family style Mexican restaurant. It is the only restaurant my
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: kids will eat out. We used to go there once
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: a week, right, and it's horribly unhealthy and it's wonderful
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: and they have Margarita's and my kids only eat chips,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: and then we order them an entre they do not eat,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: and my son orders the hamburger there, which he says
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: is delicious, even though he never eats it. And then
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: when I cook him a hamburger at the house, he says,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: I don't like hamburgers. Play yes, and I go, well,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: you order you always or don Cuco's, but that one's good.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: And then I go crazy because I'm actually good at
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: making hamburgers, of course, and it's it's really insulting.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: I remember going through that period as a kid of
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: being like I love hamburger's at McDonald's, but homemade ones
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: like oh what is that?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: Yes, even though they're easily better, yes, better taste, like.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: The worst home hamburger is going to be way better
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: than a McDonald's hamburger. Maybe that's not entire Well whatever,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: I don't need to be fair to McDonald's.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: Well, well, and you're now you have Marlborough as a sponsor.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: You don't need McDonald's.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: We'll reach out to them next week. Just horrible Havergerson cigarettes.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: I'll be eating them on podcasts, smoking in my guest face. Well,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: I've got these gorgeous TV guys. I'm going to pour
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: through these.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: And I hope you pass them down to your children.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: Grand course, is Kevin Sorbo still alive as far as
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: I know as of this recording is as of this recording,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: as of this release. We'll see that there's a time difference, Kevin.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know, if I don't know, if I care, Kevin,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: do whatever you want, live or die. I'm so thrill
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: that you could be here today.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. I all kidding aside, I
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: we we love you and we miss you at the
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: show and you're You're a great guy, and I'm very
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: happy to see you.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, and listener, the podcast is I'm
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: hitting the brakes. We're all going to well. We all
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: have our seat belts on, so we're fine. The podcast
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: is over. I love you, goodbye, I said. No Gifts
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is on
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: Alise Nelson and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Toliday.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: The theme song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann, and
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: must follow the show on Instagram. At I said no gifts.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: That's where you're going to see pictures of all these
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: the gifts I invit?
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: Did you hear?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: Gonta man?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Myself perfectly clear?
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: But you're a guest to me.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: your presences presence, and I already had too much stuff.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: So how did you dan to survey me?