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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman & Lindahl 5/31/24 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  say a load to Jeff leagwealld All right, Jeff, you know what it's
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  like. All the friends are here now, we were all out at the
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  OTAs yesterday, and I'm just kind of curious, Uh, you've seen all
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  the practices. What I asked this Mike earlier. I'll ask you the same.
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  Give me something you took there was a positive and something that you continue
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  that maybe continues to uh cause a little bit of concern. Well, and
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  you know positive. I'm you know, I think the one thing I did
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  see to vont Williams is is moving better uh than he did at the end
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  of last season, and I thought that was uh worth doing to. I
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  haven't had a chance to talk to him yet, because you know, I
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  do think he seems like he may have bulked up even a little bit uh
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  thus far. So, but I think this movement was a positive for me,
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  and especially after watching him in practice last year. You know, I
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  still overall, you know, this is not a deep team, and it's
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  just it's glaring to me every time I see see them in person now,
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  and I think they're going to need to be as fortunate injury wise as they
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  were last year. Leggy the news yesterday Rodrick estimate was absent from OTAs and
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  then Sehn Payton cleared it up clarified that he had had a minor procedure on
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  his knee. What do you think that does in terms of running back depth
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  in the competition. I guess going into playing time early on in the season.
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  You know, Mike, I think you know, he sn Peyton said
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  he would be ready for camp, so probably doesn't impact the overall plan.
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  Now if he you know, if that doesn't turn out to be the case
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  and he isn't available going in deep into camp, I think that it would
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  it would sort of tweak the order. But I think of the rookies,
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  take bow knicks out of the equation. You know, whatever happens with him,
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  I think estimately is the rookie who sees the field and with important snaps
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  the quickest, and maybe Jonah hallis after that. So I think they have
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  plans for him, and I think they're very hopeful he'll be he'll be ready
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  to go as expected at the at the start of camp. Sean Payton said
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  he would be ready at the start of camp, so I think that was
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  something worth noting. I did go back and all my draft notes I collected
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  on people, and I didn't see any team had red flagged his knee in
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  any fashion, and he practiced the week before, so it must have just
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  been something that had either started to bug him or he did during practice.
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  Jeff, what do you what do you make of the progress basically of the
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  quarterbacks? Again, Sean Payton gave us the old Netflix analogy is so now,
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  which I kind of chuckled at. Or I'm trying to catch you up
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  on the episodes that you don't see. You had said they all looked to
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  basically like you expected. Is what Jared Stidham shows us. Is there any
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  argument to be made if you're Sean Payton, because I know you've written about
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  you know, bon Nicks and just get the clock going as well. But
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  if Jared Stidham could show you for four or five games what it's supposed to
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  look like, is that valuable or anyway? Or is it more valuable for
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  Bonnicks or whoever else to be out there and just doing it, you know?
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  And I think's the safest bet, you know, and you know,
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  there's far less unpredictability you know, and his play than the other two guys.
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  And but the issue is with bo Nicks, is you know, is
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  it really going to be a fair fight this competition because developmentally, just because
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  of the way the NFL works, a practice time and the available time on
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  the field, if bow Knicks is not the starter for some reason, his
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  developmental you know, part of his rookie year essentially ends in September if he's
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  not playing. Yeah, you go to meetings and you go to practice,
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  but once the regular season starts, the starting quarterback takes virtually all of the
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  reps in practice and the other guys are left with scout team stuff. And
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  you know, bow Knicks running the other teams plays off cards is not developmentally
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  a good thing, and you know his development would essentially stall, and to
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  pick someone else other than him to be the quarterback, you're kind of accepting
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  that now. You know, maybe they do Stidam or Zach will Wilson,
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  you know, start a few games and then bow Knitz comes in. But
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  I think developmentally, we we don't know yet how Sean Payton's really going to
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  handle this in training camp. I'm intrigued to see, because the developmental question
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  on bow Knicks is really he's got to play right away if if you want
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  his rookie year to be this huge sort of advancement. Otherwise, you know,
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  you've almost got to commit to sitting him almost the whole season, like
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  you know the Chiefs did with Mahomes is always the greatest example of that in
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  the in the last fifteen years or so, Legy, I'm going to play
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  a game with you if you if you would it oblige kind of missing the
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  draft evaluation analysts type of language that's thrown around a lot. The one I
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  want to go with is high ceiling, low floor, low ceiling, high
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  floor. I want you to go through these three quarterbacks and I want you
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  to define them by their ceiling in their floor, because I'd be very interested
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  to get your take because you're you've been evaluating these players since they were college
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  players. You've seen several of them in their days in the National Football League.
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  But if you go through these three quarterbacks, how would you define their
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  ceilings and floors? Yeah, I mean instead of you'd think, right now,
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  you know his ceiling if you're the Broncos, unless he's got another gear
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  we haven't seen yet, so his you know, his ceiling is more known
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  than the other two guys. I think Zach Wilson and Boonis both you both
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  have to say they're high ceiling players. It's just, you know, Wilson,
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  you've got three seasons of a resume. It's just how much do you
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  think the situation drag him down? Rather than you know, some of the
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  things he did as well. But it says the highest ceiling because there's the
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  least known and probably the the the highest floor too, just because we don't
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  have the data yet, we really don't know how this is gonna go with
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  him. But uh, you know, Nicks has got the most open,
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  wide, open spectrum on that. But when you're talking to like the draft
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  guys, Jeff, is there anybody out there that they can look at to
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  maybe upgrade the skilled position group, It's just it's interesting to watch yesterday.
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  And I don't want to say any you know, it's not like it's disaster
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  out there or anything. But Jeff, we continue to watch and it just
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  doesn't feel like guys separate a lot in this offense. I mean, is
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  there something maybe they could do? Would one of those backs be used out
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  of the backfield? What can they do to add a little speed thread on
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  the team? Is it just I mean, I feel stupid asking you because
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  I know the acquisition period for players is pretty much done. But I guess
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  I'll shift the question to do it Do you work one of the running backs,
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  one of those smaller running backs, And I know it's McLoughlin and forgetting
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  the other kid that they just brought Inlake Watson. Watson, did they try
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  to get those guys out on the edge just to have a little more speed,
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  because Jeff, they're not even contact yet and it doesn't feel like whide
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  receivers are running clear in the open the way I would expect at times.
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  Well, I think in the in the couple practices we've seen the whole thing.
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  You know, Mims has been the most consistent, you know guy to
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  create space. I think everyone else, no matter what their speed is,
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  they haven't created space like him. And I think, you know, the
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  the other issue I see there is if Courtland Sutton really isn't coming in anytime
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  soon, they don't really have a red zone physical presence either. And that's
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  where you know, we were all kind of talking yesterday practice together, the
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  three of us. That's where the tight end and the running back in the
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  passing game they're gonna face nickel defenses. That's a matchup you've got to have.
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  And they don't really flash much right now in the passing game from a
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  tight end or running back. And you know, I think they hope estimate
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  can give you a little something. But again, that's not an explosive,
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  you know, fast twitch type of player in the passing game. So they
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  need some impact in the passing game at tight end or running back or it's
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  gonna be a lot more difficult to move the ball against nickel defenses because that
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  I mean, you look at all the good offenses in the league. They're
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  challenging those nickel corners with a tight end or a running back, you know,
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  you know, Detroit, Kansas City. I mean you look at all
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  these good offenses. That's a that's a matchup they're winning. And that's the
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  matchup what you're talking about right there. The Broncos really haven't had are shown
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  yet. He keeps saying it's in there, but we have not seen it
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  yet. They real quick. I want to ask both of you, because
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  you're a ste you're a strategy guy there, Mike, why doesn't anybody ever
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  go with like the h back again, like the old Shannon sharp eah back.
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  Remember Legy and Shannon came into the league. He was a big receiver,
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  but a little bit slow. And I guess I'm kind of thinking Courtland
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  Sutton here. Is it just because the tight ends have gotten so athletic.
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  I'm asking both of you. Legy, you start, Mike, I want
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  you to jump in. But why does nobody go with that kind of h
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  back which is what they called Shannon forever before they called him a tight end
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  kind of deal. It still exists, Andy, but a lot of them
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  are. You know, it's kind of in the offenses that have a fullback
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  type position in them, and that you know, those those offenses are getting
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  fewer and fewer in the league, and uh, you know, right now
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  everything offensively, at least the teams haven't success that. It's all space and
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  explosiveness, you know, And I think that, and there are not a
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  lot of colleges anymore play in that type of position, so you you're creating
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  it in real time on an NFL practice schedule, and you know, I
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  think all those things together are why you don't see a little more of it.
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  Yeah, I would say this Andy, in talking here with our guy,
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  the greatest, the goat, Jeff Legwald. The h position what it
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  traditionally was, think Shannon Sharp, that's a lot of people starting tight end
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  right in their skill set. Travis Kelce, He's not He's not exactly dominating
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  at the point of attack like a traditional why tight end would I think you
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  look around the league right now a team that's employing a Y in an H
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  or an F. Some people call it an F the second tight end.
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  The Ravens, Andrews and Isaiah likely and I think we're whether you like it
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  or not, it's coming to town by way of the Vegas Raiders because they
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  went out and got the elite body type and athleticism in an H. And
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  that's going to be, you know, a combination of their two tight ends
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  there in Vegas is going to be something else. Yeah, like Mike say,
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  it exists, but people are playing it on a line of scrimmage or
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  in the slot now rather than you know, sort of in that offset position
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  out of the backfield. Legy. Always good to talk to you, my
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  man. We'll catch up with you again next week after we get another viewed
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  real quickly. Are we going to get a watch all three days of the
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  Mini Camp? I've been meaning to ask you privately, but we might as
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  well just put it out there for everybody. Is the Mini Camp viewing or
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  no? I believe that is the case. Once Mini Camp arrives, sou
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  and that's I think that's when the at least the first time the sort of
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  the proverbial rubber hits the road on the Courtland Sutton situation. If he waves
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  off mini camp. Okay, now it's now it's a serious issue. I
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  think, what is mini caamp going to be, Jeff A couple of weeks?
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  Yeah, eleventh, June eleventh to the thirteenth, I believe is mini
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  camp for these guys. It's also, Mike, it's the only mandatory thing
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  in the offseason and the current CBA, so the players can be fined if
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  they don't come. It's the only thing they could be fined for. By
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  the way, real quickly, before I let you go, I've got to
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  ask you what do you think of this extended? Does the Players Union really
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  want to go from June through the rest of the season. Do you buy
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  that? I think they're trying to create what the coaches don't want, which
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  is a bigger gap somewhere in the offseason calendar where there's a bigger gap of
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  player off time. You know. Now it's essentially the end of the season
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  to about April fifteenth, and I think they're just trying to up that annie
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  a little more because I think the players Union believes the eighteen game schedules coming,
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  and they're trying to to push back a little bit on some other things,
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  including a second bye week, which you know, I'm old enough to
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  have covered the league when they did the two buy weeks one season and it
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  wasn't very popular. But anyway, I think it's just part of the pushback
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  because they know the eighteen game schedules coming, whether they like it or not.
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  You're the best, man. We'll talk to you Monday. Take care
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  of a good weekend, Jeff. You guys are awesome man. Thank you.