Latest / Hurdle with Emily Abbate / SPECIAL EPISODE: 'Is It Safe to Run Outside?' A Doctor Answers Your Coronavirus Questions
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I just want you to take costs.
- 0:01Speaker 2: So if you're running with someone from another family unit,
- 0:03Speaker 2: just make sure that you're like, you know, have an
- 0:05Speaker 2: established understanding before you go out and say, Hey, like,
- 0:08Speaker 2: we're going to follow these guidelines to make sure that
- 0:09Speaker 2: we don't try to pent this virus. Let's do our
- 0:11Speaker 2: bands not to interact. Definitely don't touch as best we can.
- 0:15Speaker 2: I mean, you're running, so stay six ft away.
- 0:17Speaker 1: From each other. Hey.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Hurdler's Emily a body popping into your feed with a
- 0:34Speaker 3: special episode of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where I
- 0:38Speaker 3: sit down with inspiring individuals to talk about everything from
- 0:42Speaker 3: their big wins to how they've gotten through some of
- 0:43Speaker 3: life's toughest moments. And let me tell you, things feel pretty.
- 0:48Speaker 4: Tough right now.
- 0:50Speaker 3: I have been talking to so many of you through
- 0:53Speaker 3: direct message and email about how overwhelmed we are in
- 0:57Speaker 3: the wake of the coronavirus pandemic, so many questions coming in,
- 1:01Speaker 3: many of which I don't have the answers to. But
- 1:04Speaker 3: I reached out to someone who could help. His name
- 1:07Speaker 3: is doctor Dariens, and he's a trained emergency physician and
- 1:10Speaker 3: he's also the host of Doctors Without Boundaries on Instagram
- 1:14Speaker 3: that you can find him at doctor dot Darien. That's
- 1:17Speaker 3: DC t R dot d A R I E N.
- 1:22Speaker 3: We recorded this earlier today, just going through all of
- 1:25Speaker 3: the questions that had been flooding my inbox, touching on
- 1:29Speaker 3: everything from is it safe to run outside? Is it
- 1:32Speaker 3: safe to run with a friend? How long is this
- 1:34Speaker 3: thing going to last? What can I do to calm
- 1:38Speaker 3: my anxiety? And stuff like that. Listen, I know again
- 1:42Speaker 3: it's overwhelming right now, but none of us are alone.
- 1:44Speaker 4: We are all going through this together. I'll be upfront
- 1:48Speaker 4: with all of you.
- 1:49Speaker 3: I am certainly a little bit nervous about what remote
- 1:53Speaker 3: recording will mean for the podcast. I am working diligently
- 1:57Speaker 3: to find the best solutions, to figure out how to
- 1:59Speaker 3: get you the best quality while also getting you the
- 2:02Speaker 3: information that you need and sitting down all bite remotely
- 2:06Speaker 3: with inspiring people. So I ask you from the bottom
- 2:11Speaker 3: of my heart to stick with me, to have some
- 2:14Speaker 3: grace and know that we're just doing the best we
- 2:17Speaker 3: can right now with what we have at Emily Body
- 2:21Speaker 3: at Hurdle podcast on Instagram and Twitter. If you have
- 2:24Speaker 3: a Hurdle moment of your own to share, you want
- 2:26Speaker 3: to say Hi, you want a friend, you can always
- 2:28Speaker 3: reach out to me over email. It's Emily at hurdle
- 2:31Speaker 3: dot us. And with that, let's get to hurdling.
- 2:47Speaker 4: Today. I am sitting down with doctor Darien Sutton. He's
- 2:50Speaker 4: a trained emergency physician host of Doctors Without Boundaries Doctor
- 2:55Speaker 4: Darien on Instagram. I have been following you and it
- 2:58Speaker 4: has been so helpful for me. I am so grateful
- 3:01Speaker 4: for your time to help answer the questions that have
- 3:03Speaker 4: been coming at me that I am certainly not qualified
- 3:08Speaker 4: to help with.
- 3:10Speaker 2: I'm just appreciated to have more people talk to me
- 3:12Speaker 2: about the facts, So thank you.
- 3:14Speaker 4: Of course. So first off, let's talk about the basics.
- 3:18Speaker 4: Talk to me about what the symptoms for coronavirus are
- 3:21Speaker 4: and how it spreads.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, great question.
- 3:25Speaker 2: So a lot of people, first off, many of us
- 3:28Speaker 2: had the last time we sat in a biology class
- 3:31Speaker 2: was like in high school. So a lot of times
- 3:33Speaker 2: I think we look at this and we're trying to
- 3:34Speaker 2: remember all these details that we remember from our initial classes,
- 3:37Speaker 2: but it may not be effective or appropriate situation.
- 3:41Speaker 1: So first off is that the COVID nineteen.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Virus, also known as the coronavirus, is a specific type
- 3:47Speaker 2: of virus that belongs to a family of virus. That
- 3:50Speaker 2: family includes viruses like the STARS virus, which was involved
- 3:54Speaker 2: in the Operation two thousand and three, as well as MERGED,
- 3:57Speaker 2: which is a Middle East respiratory syndrome, which is a
- 4:00Speaker 2: relatively rare virus that is mostly not really that noticeable
- 4:04Speaker 2: in the United States in terms of.
- 4:07Speaker 1: The amount of people that have had it.
- 4:09Speaker 2: The COVID nineteen virus specifically is new because it has
- 4:13Speaker 2: not been isolated in human species. There's a lot of
- 4:17Speaker 2: research about where it came from, and the most founded
- 4:20Speaker 2: one is that it's basically is a zoomotic virus, meaning
- 4:23Speaker 2: that it originated from animals, and what they postulate is
- 4:27Speaker 2: that most likely it came from that and had transferred
- 4:30Speaker 2: over to humans.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Now, the biggest.
- 4:32Speaker 2: Question is like, how does that even happen. As a
- 4:35Speaker 2: virus is transferring from one host to another, it's DNA mutants,
- 4:40Speaker 2: and sometimes that mutation can allow it to be successible
- 4:43Speaker 2: to another species, which unfortunately is human. So what we
- 4:47Speaker 2: found is that that virus has crossed over that likely
- 4:50Speaker 2: happened last year and now has led to the current pandemic.
- 4:54Speaker 2: The virus is like the other virus is within its
- 4:57Speaker 2: family a respiratory virus, or it causes respiratory symptoms like fever,
- 5:02Speaker 2: call shortness of breast, and unfortunately this can progress to
- 5:06Speaker 2: a pneumonia and in a very few cases well sadly
- 5:08Speaker 2: now many cases that can progress with death.
- 5:11Speaker 4: Now, who is at the highest risk for coronavirus?
- 5:15Speaker 1: So, right now, although we have a historical research from
- 5:19Speaker 1: similar viruses like coronavirus.
- 5:21Speaker 2: We really are looking at the data from China and
- 5:23Speaker 2: what we found is that anyone over sixty years old
- 5:26Speaker 2: has a significantly increased risk of a severe harm from
- 5:30Speaker 2: this virus, specifically patients who are over eighty. With that
- 5:33Speaker 2: being said, patients who are also immune compromise with any age,
- 5:37Speaker 2: and we always try to include prigant patients inside that
- 5:39Speaker 2: group as well, because they're naturally at an immunosuppressed state
- 5:43Speaker 2: and they're at higher risk than others.
- 5:45Speaker 4: Now, the questions coming in from the followers, can I
- 5:49Speaker 4: have coronavirus and not know it?
- 5:52Speaker 1: Great question?
- 5:53Speaker 2: Absolutely, Right now, we're noticing that people are transmitting this virus,
- 5:58Speaker 2: and what we try to preach specifically from the hospital
- 6:01Speaker 2: standpoint is why we need to socially distanced because many
- 6:05Speaker 2: people are walking around with this virus and don't realize
- 6:07Speaker 2: that they have it. A lot of our research people
- 6:10Speaker 2: have to understand it's based off of people whose self
- 6:12Speaker 2: report or present to the hospital. That means that we're
- 6:15Speaker 2: only really looking at those patients who have severe symptoms.
- 6:18Speaker 1: But these patients come from somewhere.
- 6:20Speaker 2: And most likely they're coming from their community where they
- 6:23Speaker 2: may have been involved or interacting with someone who had
- 6:25Speaker 2: mild or no symptoms. And those are the people who
- 6:27Speaker 2: are transcending the virus most often commonly and making it
- 6:30Speaker 2: more persistent.
- 6:32Speaker 4: All right, So then the questions come in about exercise.
- 6:35Speaker 4: Can you safely run outside right now?
- 6:39Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 6:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's really important to help people understand
- 6:43Speaker 2: the answer to that question. When I preach about social distancing,
- 6:47Speaker 2: sometimes it can be confused with social isolation, and I
- 6:50Speaker 2: want to make sure people understand there's a difference. Social
- 6:53Speaker 2: distancing means that yes, you can definitely still run outside.
- 6:56Speaker 1: You can run on.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Run on the street, you can run wherever you feel
- 6:59Speaker 2: most come. What we're trying to preach is avoiding large gathering.
- 7:04Speaker 2: So you definitely should not be running in a group.
- 7:06Speaker 2: If you're running right now, the crucial time that we
- 7:09Speaker 2: don't want to mix households or family unit. So if
- 7:11Speaker 2: you're running with a roommate, that is fine because you're
- 7:13Speaker 2: obviously already in close contact with him, but you really
- 7:16Speaker 2: shouldn't be in close contact with other people who live
- 7:18Speaker 2: in different spaces because this is how the virus spreads.
- 7:21Speaker 4: Right, So, if you have a run buddy that you
- 7:24Speaker 4: usually run with every Tuesday morning, are you saying skip
- 7:28Speaker 4: the run buddy, No, Honestly.
- 7:30Speaker 1: I would say just be cognizant of the fact.
- 7:32Speaker 2: I definitely don't want people to feel I think exercise
- 7:35Speaker 2: is really important, especially for mental health. In the setting
- 7:37Speaker 2: of social distancing, I just want you to take costs.
- 7:41Speaker 2: So if you're running with someone from another family unit,
- 7:43Speaker 2: just make sure that you're like, you know, have an
- 7:45Speaker 2: established understanding before you go out and say, hey, like,
- 7:48Speaker 2: we're going to follow these guidelines to make sure that
- 7:49Speaker 2: we don't transmit this virus. Let's do our beds not
- 7:52Speaker 2: to interact. Definitely don't touch as best we can. I mean,
- 7:55Speaker 2: you're running, so stay six feet away from each.
- 7:57Speaker 4: Other, right, right, Totally. I actually went out Central Park
- 8:00Speaker 4: over the weekend, and I had a deep appreciation for
- 8:03Speaker 4: the quote unquote groups of people that were all just
- 8:06Speaker 4: standing about six feet apart from one another.
- 8:10Speaker 2: If people can understand and we'll get into this as
- 8:13Speaker 2: an emergency doctor, not only is our patients who are
- 8:18Speaker 2: over eighty at risk, but we are significantly at risk
- 8:21Speaker 2: of breaking down this healthcare structure because we do not
- 8:24Speaker 2: have the room of capacity to prepare for everyone becoming
- 8:27Speaker 2: sick around the same time. And now they're coming out
- 8:30Speaker 2: with reports that er physicians are becoming sick and ill.
- 8:33Speaker 2: And now I'm trying to express the people like, if
- 8:34Speaker 2: you can't imagine how it can be for an old
- 8:36Speaker 2: person to be sick, just think about talking to me
- 8:39Speaker 2: and think about the risk that I'm putting myself into.
- 8:41Speaker 2: So it's like infuriating now when I walk outside and
- 8:44Speaker 2: see brunches packed with people, I can understand it.
- 8:47Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean it goes without saying that. I'm
- 8:49Speaker 4: sure so many people are thankful for what it is
- 8:52Speaker 4: that you're doing, and you know the risks that you
- 8:54Speaker 4: incur every single day just by showing up and helping
- 8:57Speaker 4: other people.
- 8:58Speaker 1: So thank you for that. Thank you.
- 9:00Speaker 2: I mean, I appreciate it. I appreciate anyone taking an
- 9:03Speaker 2: effort to honestly help.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Increase.
- 9:06Speaker 2: The voice of people can't be heard, and a lot
- 9:08Speaker 2: of us are working so hard that we don't have
- 9:10Speaker 2: the chance or the modality or the mediums to be
- 9:12Speaker 2: able to communicate. But I'm just grateful for this conversation.
- 9:16Speaker 4: Any idea of how long this will last.
- 9:20Speaker 1: That is a question that's still trying to be answered.
- 9:23Speaker 2: There's a lot of analysts and epidemiologists that are looking
- 9:25Speaker 2: into the timeline.
- 9:27Speaker 1: A lot of.
- 9:27Speaker 2: People are postulating or thinking that maybe it can be
- 9:31Speaker 2: done at June or July, but it's really still too
- 9:34Speaker 2: hard to tell. And this is founded on the principle
- 9:37Speaker 2: that we don't have test being available in the emergency room.
- 9:40Speaker 2: I can't even get myself a test. I can only
- 9:42Speaker 2: get testifications who are higher risks, who are being admitted
- 9:46Speaker 2: to the hospital. This means that many people are coming
- 9:48Speaker 2: in with systems, being discharged and going back into the
- 9:51Speaker 2: community without a free understanding of.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Their actual risk and their actual diagnosis.
- 9:55Speaker 2: So with that being said, we don't have the ability
- 9:58Speaker 2: to set a trajectory. We cannot We don't know when
- 10:01Speaker 2: we're going to beat we don't know when it's going
- 10:03Speaker 2: to pop out, and it makes us really hard to
- 10:05Speaker 2: calculate when this.
- 10:06Speaker 4: Will ends, right, And I think it's interesting. I mean,
- 10:09Speaker 4: I went into a store this morning and they had
- 10:13Speaker 4: just received a new shipment of lifestyle and Clorox wipes,
- 10:16Speaker 4: and someone messaged me who works at a hospital, and said,
- 10:19Speaker 4: where is this? We need these supplies like it's literally
- 10:23Speaker 4: no discrimination against where these shortages are happening, and everyone's
- 10:27Speaker 4: just looking for, you know, the basic necessities right now.
- 10:32Speaker 2: People don't understand that even as physicians, we are literally
- 10:36Speaker 2: rationing out math. I'm talking about every type of math.
- 10:39Speaker 2: We don't have enough math toon. They will not be
- 10:42Speaker 2: enough loves. They're already limited beds because the hospital people
- 10:46Speaker 2: don't realize that hospitals operate close to capacity at baseline
- 10:50Speaker 2: to any kind of mass casualty incident for a pandemic
- 10:56Speaker 2: significantly and severely disrupt our flow.
- 10:59Speaker 1: And people don't get that right. Right.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Well, the next question coming in from the followers, can
- 11:05Speaker 4: my dog or pet get coronavirus and can they spread it?
- 11:10Speaker 1: That's good.
- 11:10Speaker 2: I have two cats and so I always get fearful
- 11:14Speaker 2: of this, and I understand the concern behind this question.
- 11:16Speaker 2: There has not been any research that shows that tads
- 11:19Speaker 2: the dogs can get this virus.
- 11:21Speaker 1: As I stand in.
- 11:22Speaker 2: The beginning, this virus viruses is very specific and it's
- 11:27Speaker 2: kind of a happenstance that they're able to inoculate or
- 11:31Speaker 2: cause us, or get inside of us as humans because
- 11:34Speaker 2: of a specific mutation that's heard that that finished the virus.
- 11:38Speaker 2: That being said, it would be really difficult for that
- 11:41Speaker 2: to happen again for another species that is close by,
- 11:44Speaker 2: like a dog or a cat.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Well, thank God that we can hold on to our
- 11:48Speaker 4: anxiety animals.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Yeah, and please take care of the shelters that are
- 11:53Speaker 2: trying their best to manage all of these these animals
- 11:56Speaker 2: that are that don't have a home.
- 11:57Speaker 1: I was just reading about that.
- 11:59Speaker 4: Another listener asks, I've been told that I should change
- 12:02Speaker 4: clothes right when I come inside. Is that necessary?
- 12:06Speaker 2: So, first off, I have to answer this question with
- 12:09Speaker 2: the understanding that some of us are privileged enough to
- 12:12Speaker 2: have this ability to have clothing in order to be
- 12:14Speaker 2: able to change. If you have the ability and you
- 12:17Speaker 2: have to be resourced, I would definitely do things. I mean,
- 12:21Speaker 2: I can go through my whole thing that I do.
- 12:23Speaker 2: I'm coming from a high risk environment. I have a
- 12:25Speaker 2: partner in my apartment, and I don't want to expose
- 12:28Speaker 2: him to as much as I can, I don't want
- 12:30Speaker 2: to expose him. So the things that I do is
- 12:31Speaker 2: that I leave my shoes outside. Obviously, you just have
- 12:34Speaker 2: to live in a space and stafe enough to do that.
- 12:36Speaker 2: I also make sure that I take off my.
- 12:38Speaker 1: Clothes immediately and put them in the washing machine.
- 12:40Speaker 2: But obviously before I even do all of this, I'm
- 12:42Speaker 2: changing from my thrubs into regular clothes in my office.
- 12:45Speaker 1: And then coming home.
- 12:46Speaker 2: But even with that being said, I still change, and
- 12:48Speaker 2: if I'm running outside, I try my best to change
- 12:50Speaker 2: to take a shower as soon as I get back again.
- 12:53Speaker 2: This is not really legitimized in research, but me, my
- 12:56Speaker 2: thinking is like mitigating as much as much as a
- 12:59Speaker 2: transmiss as possible because the virus thoes live on through
- 13:02Speaker 2: and now.
- 13:02Speaker 4: Specific to the running community, we've been seeing everything from
- 13:06Speaker 4: of course friends' weddings to large marathons. I was supposed
- 13:10Speaker 4: to run their London Marathon at the end of April
- 13:12Speaker 4: that's been postponed. A lot of people are kind of,
- 13:16Speaker 4: aside from the normal reasons to be unsettled during this time,
- 13:19Speaker 4: unsettled because they had such a crazy, big training mass
- 13:23Speaker 4: and they just don't know what to do to go
- 13:25Speaker 4: to a more sedentary possible lifestyle. So do you have
- 13:27Speaker 4: any at all, like words of wisdom for these people
- 13:30Speaker 4: that were kind of at peak fitness and they're just
- 13:33Speaker 4: really anxious about how.
- 13:34Speaker 1: To handle this.
- 13:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely working with a psychotherapist on
- 13:39Speaker 2: resources because I want to make sure that I clarify
- 13:42Speaker 2: I have good statements when I'm talking about dealing and
- 13:44Speaker 2: self managing with anxiety. Especially, a lot of us are
- 13:48Speaker 2: just finding out that we're having anxiety. That's really important
- 13:50Speaker 2: to realize. It's really difficult because there's not going to
- 13:54Speaker 2: be in any time soon a way that people can
- 13:57Speaker 2: work out in a group format like a marathon or
- 14:00Speaker 2: a large event. What I would honestly say is take
- 14:04Speaker 2: advantage of the time that you can can run outside down,
- 14:07Speaker 2: you can run outside and definitely no one's judging you.
- 14:10Speaker 2: I would make sure to set goals for yourself and
- 14:13Speaker 2: organize your day as much as possible. You have to
- 14:15Speaker 2: realize that as working people, the majority of the people
- 14:18Speaker 2: who are listening to the set up and go to work,
- 14:20Speaker 2: now that that's kind of been taken away, we have
- 14:23Speaker 2: to figure out how to organize our homes in a
- 14:25Speaker 2: way that we can define spaces for sleeping, for entertainment,
- 14:28Speaker 2: and for working, and I think making sure that we
- 14:31Speaker 2: stay on the same schedule that we will already on.
- 14:33Speaker 2: It's really important because once your sleep schedule changes, it
- 14:36Speaker 2: can induce other risk factors for depression, increase, anxiety, and
- 14:40Speaker 2: then that can also be related to your health overall.
- 14:43Speaker 4: Right, So I mean you're touching on anxiety and mental health.
- 14:46Speaker 4: Any other suggestions aside from you know, designating designating certain
- 14:50Speaker 4: spaces to make sure that you have a separate space
- 14:53Speaker 4: for sleep versus where you're working on, just how to
- 14:55Speaker 4: you keep calm and keep anxiety at bay during this time.
- 14:59Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's really person dependent. Being most honest
- 15:02Speaker 2: with you, If you have a therapist, emailing them and
- 15:04Speaker 2: asking them for the possibility of video conferences is really important.
- 15:08Speaker 2: A lot of the medical community understands the importance for
- 15:11Speaker 2: social distancing, so we are quickly adapting to be able
- 15:15Speaker 2: to figure out how to see our patients. For example,
- 15:17Speaker 2: my twin brother is an obstetrician and his client has
- 15:20Speaker 2: already adapted to be able to prop the patients online.
- 15:23Speaker 2: They're setting them blood pressure costs and all types of
- 15:25Speaker 2: tools to be able to test them and give them
- 15:27Speaker 2: the readings that they need in order to prepare them
- 15:30Speaker 2: for their deliveries. So we're adapting a lot. And so
- 15:32Speaker 2: if you're in contact with Dessignment and CARA Provider, you
- 15:35Speaker 2: can also find out ways that they can adapt in order.
- 15:37Speaker 1: To be able to help you while maintaining social distancing.
- 15:40Speaker 4: I love that. Now, do you have any last words
- 15:43Speaker 4: of wisdom for the hurdlers as I love to call them?
- 15:47Speaker 1: So I think that what I want at number one
- 15:49Speaker 1: social distancing, social distancing, social business thing. I wish I
- 15:52Speaker 1: did tattoo it on my chest as much as possible.
- 15:55Speaker 2: If you follow me online, you noticed that I'm the
- 15:58Speaker 2: running motif in all of my stories.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Is why social.
- 16:01Speaker 2: Distancing is so important, specifically because I'm looking at the
- 16:04Speaker 2: results of Italy and quite honestly, I'm really scared. And
- 16:09Speaker 2: the reason why is because I'm not necessarily scared about
- 16:11Speaker 2: the effect of this virus on the majority.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Because we've seen some studies eighty percent of the people who.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Get this virus you don't even need the requirement or
- 16:18Speaker 2: assistance of medical providers. But in that small percentage of
- 16:22Speaker 2: people who do need assistance, specifically, the five percent who
- 16:25Speaker 2: will be critically ill.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Those are the people who will present.
- 16:29Speaker 2: To the hospital all at the same time and cause detrimental,
- 16:32Speaker 2: severe affection on the healthcare system. So social distancing is
- 16:35Speaker 2: so important. Number two, making the story that you take
- 16:38Speaker 2: care of yourself. Making sure you set time limits on
- 16:42Speaker 2: your phone. I've learned how to do it already in
- 16:44Speaker 2: my setting to make sure that I can. My phone
- 16:46Speaker 2: reminds me after an hour and a half on social
- 16:48Speaker 2: media that I should take a break. It also silences
- 16:51Speaker 2: all notifications for my social media. It's something that I've
- 16:54Speaker 2: been practicing. I've picked up new things like calling people
- 16:57Speaker 2: which I don't often do, reading and writing so that
- 17:00Speaker 2: I figure out a plan and keep myself calm.
- 17:03Speaker 1: And then number three, realizing that this will pass.
- 17:06Speaker 2: People have to understand that anything that is happening in
- 17:09Speaker 2: our economy, these things are relatively transient and they will
- 17:13Speaker 2: also pass. We just have to figure out what steps
- 17:16Speaker 2: we can do right now to help.
- 17:18Speaker 1: And that is on the.
- 17:20Speaker 4: I love your advice about taking time to read and
- 17:23Speaker 4: write things down. It's something that you know we all
- 17:26Speaker 4: say constantly. Man, I'd love more time to do X
- 17:29Speaker 4: or Y and it's yeah, this is the time, this
- 17:31Speaker 4: is the time. How many times would someone have said, Man,
- 17:34Speaker 4: I wish I could have just had one more day
- 17:36Speaker 4: at home this week. Well, you have to day. So
- 17:39Speaker 4: let's let's try to be kind to ourselves and have
- 17:42Speaker 4: some grace and just accept that this is how it
- 17:44Speaker 4: is now, you know.
- 17:46Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely well.
- 17:48Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your time. I really really
- 17:50Speaker 4: appreciate it. How can the hurdlers keep up with you?
- 17:53Speaker 4: Follow you and get more updates from your world?
- 17:57Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 17:57Speaker 2: So, I mean, if you want updates, I would always say,
- 17:59Speaker 2: first and fore, follow the guidelines that are instituted by
- 18:02Speaker 2: your Department of Health with senior city. Follow any public
- 18:05Speaker 2: health official that is sharing information because it's exactly where
- 18:08Speaker 2: I'm getting my information from the information that I utilize.
- 18:11Speaker 2: I kind of try to sympthesize to an audience. So
- 18:13Speaker 2: if you would like to follow me doctor doc C
- 18:16Speaker 2: O R Dot Darien D A R I E N
- 18:18Speaker 2: on Instagram, And like I said, stay safe, stay healthy
- 18:22Speaker 2: and think about those aremmants.
- 18:24Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your time. Stay safe out there,
- 18:27Speaker 4: of course,