Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Monday Mini: The Power of Friendship
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.
- 0:06Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff I never told your production.
- 0:08Speaker 3: iHeartRadio, and welcome to another edition of Monday Mini where
- 0:21Speaker 3: we talk about random things and put a little bit
- 0:23Speaker 3: of statistics in there or facts or news. We try
- 0:26Speaker 3: to make it a little different from our happy hour
- 0:29Speaker 3: because it is a personal take or something that we're
- 0:31Speaker 3: thinking on, and then we do pseudo research, meaning like
- 0:34Speaker 3: we don't do a lot of in depth research and
- 0:37Speaker 3: or maybe come from an article that got us interested
- 0:40Speaker 3: in it, however, whatever. So just to explain what the
- 0:43Speaker 3: Monday Mini is again, because I think everybody's like, what.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Is this just a small episode?
- 0:47Speaker 3: Okay, But today I thought I would make a switch
- 0:50Speaker 3: because my last happy hour was really sad, and unfortunately,
- 0:56Speaker 3: right now with the seasons and the holidays, I am
- 0:59Speaker 3: not the happiest person, most joyous person in the world.
- 1:02Speaker 3: But I thought I'd take a minute to actually reflect
- 1:04Speaker 3: on things that do make me happy and as a
- 1:06Speaker 3: reminder of things that can give you good support and happiness,
- 1:11Speaker 3: and that's friendships, specifically female friendships or friendships with other women.
- 1:17Speaker 3: And I'm not excluding anybody of the non gender binary
- 1:21Speaker 3: any of that. We're including trans women. In this we're
- 1:24Speaker 3: talking about the people who are would see themselves as
- 1:27Speaker 3: them because I think there's a specific energy vibe in that.
- 1:30Speaker 1: So when I say that.
- 1:31Speaker 3: I'm meaning all this is including all So go ahead
- 1:34Speaker 3: and put that at that very beginning. Of course, we
- 1:36Speaker 3: know there's a lot of TERFs out there. There's a
- 1:39Speaker 3: lot of people who have a lot of prejudices, and
- 1:42Speaker 3: they have nice messaging with sometimes really awful hearts.
- 1:47Speaker 1: So I say this.
- 1:48Speaker 3: Because a lot of these things that we talk about
- 1:50Speaker 3: when it comes to friendships and keeping friendships comes from blogs,
- 1:54Speaker 3: and you never know what these people, these that wrote
- 1:57Speaker 3: these blogs their real personality is. I think about that
- 2:00Speaker 3: often when I'm thinking about like feminists first as well,
- 2:03Speaker 3: or feminists around the world that.
- 2:06Speaker 1: We don't know.
- 2:07Speaker 3: They may have good intentions in one of these things,
- 2:10Speaker 3: but some of these things are not pretty right. So
- 2:13Speaker 3: just as kind of a caveat to all of this.
- 2:17Speaker 3: But straight away from that to the good part, I
- 2:20Speaker 3: think it's really important that we talk about the friendships
- 2:23Speaker 3: that happen and how important it is to have friendships
- 2:25Speaker 3: and holidays. Of course, I think we can look at
- 2:28Speaker 3: things like friendsgiving. We have a good thing called friends
- 2:31Speaker 3: give mus in our group because we could blend in
- 2:34Speaker 3: both Christmas and Thanksgiving. Yeah, because it it's a little
- 2:38Speaker 3: difficult trying to get together sometimes and so blending that in,
- 2:41Speaker 3: but having opportunities to celebrate the seasons together with just
- 2:46Speaker 3: friends or found families as we like to talk about.
- 2:49Speaker 3: And if you just listen to A couple of weeks
- 2:53Speaker 3: ago as this comes out, we had the amazing Raquel
- 2:57Speaker 3: Willis on the show and something she talked about when
- 3:01Speaker 3: I had asked her specifically about finding the balance between
- 3:05Speaker 3: transparency versus activism, and then also self preservation and knowing
- 3:10Speaker 3: that you don't owe people your stories, but like how
- 3:14Speaker 3: do you, you know, keep the balance And she talked
- 3:15Speaker 3: about friendship and I really really loved that.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Point and it didn't remind me.
- 3:19Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, like keeping people like you
- 3:23Speaker 3: ay in my life.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Like you just talked about the joy of wearing your life.
- 3:27Speaker 3: Day's letter and I love that, and I'm like, man,
- 3:30Speaker 3: I need to use that as an example and find
- 3:32Speaker 3: something like that for myself, where I just find some
- 3:34Speaker 3: of the like something that's personal to me that I
- 3:38Speaker 3: can put on physically and be like, ah, this makes me.
- 3:41Speaker 3: I will say cardigans do sometimes, especially at the beginning
- 3:44Speaker 3: of fall, when I get to actually wear it.
- 3:46Speaker 1: I did do a dance.
- 3:48Speaker 3: My partner was like, Okay, you're you're ridiculously happy and
- 3:51Speaker 3: he understands, Like why for me?
- 3:54Speaker 1: That makes me a little bit joy But you know
- 3:55Speaker 1: stuff like that, it's like.
- 3:56Speaker 3: Oh yeah, things like that are nice. So I had
- 4:00Speaker 3: good moment. Thank you forgiving me that. But just as
- 4:03Speaker 3: the friends of this time of year is really really
- 4:06Speaker 3: important in general. I went through articles about film friendships
- 4:11Speaker 3: and why they're important, and here's some of the things
- 4:14Speaker 3: research y'all, because it's like years and years and years
- 4:17Speaker 3: of research, and I think the last fifteen years has
- 4:19Speaker 3: been beautiful where the ties are turned from don't be
- 4:22Speaker 3: that I'm not that type of girl and be a
- 4:24Speaker 3: girls girl and know what that means and I love them.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:28Speaker 3: So one of the things they talked about is emotional support.
- 4:31Speaker 3: The benefit of having support from friends when things are down,
- 4:34Speaker 3: whether it's like lifting you up because you're sad about
- 4:39Speaker 3: something and so they try to help you understand why
- 4:42Speaker 3: you're said or distract you, which both of those things
- 4:44Speaker 3: are beautiful. Validation. Having friends who understand and appreciate you
- 4:49Speaker 3: just for you and giving you that confidence. Oh and
- 4:52Speaker 3: by the way, this was from a blog.
- 4:56Speaker 1: That was researched.
- 4:57Speaker 3: They also found research for it called the Power Female
- 4:59Speaker 3: for Ship and it's from Grace dot Health. So I
- 5:03Speaker 3: don't know much about Grace dot Health, so don't take
- 5:06Speaker 3: that as a right like I'm advocating for it. It's
- 5:10Speaker 3: just they had good research. So once again, that's about
- 5:13Speaker 3: shared experiences. Yeah, I think, especially when you have old,
- 5:17Speaker 3: old friendships that you've had for years and you can
- 5:20Speaker 3: look back on things and laugh to you cry type
- 5:22Speaker 3: of situations. Knowing some situation, like I explained something to
- 5:28Speaker 3: my partner, I ran into a friend that I haven't
- 5:30Speaker 3: seen in like five years, literally out of nowhere, and
- 5:33Speaker 3: it was really lovely.
- 5:34Speaker 1: To see her.
- 5:34Speaker 3: And I say this with all like so excitement, and
- 5:37Speaker 3: it literally shocked me to the point I'm like, you
- 5:39Speaker 3: don't live here, Like it sounded like an accusation, but
- 5:42Speaker 3: it was more of shock. And that's all I could
- 5:44Speaker 3: say because I was so like confused to see her.
- 5:47Speaker 3: But I just brought back some of the memories I
- 5:49Speaker 3: had of her and who she was and how joyful
- 5:51Speaker 3: it was. And I was explaining to my partner about her,
- 5:55Speaker 3: and it was just like, you know, that smile of
- 5:57Speaker 3: moments of like, oh, that's shared experience because I lived
- 6:00Speaker 3: with her as well for a year, so it was
- 6:01Speaker 3: lovely to see her and not thought about that. And
- 6:04Speaker 3: then of course the accountability. I will tell you people
- 6:07Speaker 3: who keep me accountable are some of the best. Caroline
- 6:11Speaker 3: from the previous host is one of the best ones
- 6:14Speaker 3: to keep me accountable. But she does it in such
- 6:15Speaker 3: a way that it's so good and I'm like, oh, yeah,
- 6:19Speaker 3: you're right, I did that in my bad you know,
- 6:22Speaker 3: like stuff like that. But it keeps you as a
- 6:23Speaker 3: better person, as a better friend, which I want to be,
- 6:26Speaker 3: and I love everything about that. Of Course, the laughter
- 6:29Speaker 3: enjoy we all know that that's a great benefit. I
- 6:32Speaker 3: love listening to Annie talk about her stuff and then
- 6:36Speaker 3: just watching her laugh at herself, and then I'll make
- 6:38Speaker 3: a joke and she'll laugh at it too. It is
- 6:40Speaker 3: a delightful moment, and then me laughing watching her laugh.
- 6:44Speaker 3: Or I will say I do laugh when she cries.
- 6:46Speaker 3: That shows like last of us, and I enjoy every
- 6:48Speaker 3: bit of her love for it.
- 6:52Speaker 2: I enjoy that you enjoy it.
- 6:53Speaker 3: I literally pulled up the video of you saying this
- 6:56Speaker 3: is me before the episode of this, the Bill at
- 7:00Speaker 3: Frank episode, and this is a year after, and me
- 7:02Speaker 3: laughing in the background, like it's just.
- 7:06Speaker 1: The love you have for that show is amazing.
- 7:08Speaker 3: And it talks about improving your immune function. And I
- 7:12Speaker 3: have a couple of articles I talk about that that
- 7:14Speaker 3: it actually has higher levels of a particular antibody that
- 7:19Speaker 3: helps to fight off infection. And this one is from
- 7:22Speaker 3: a flashback dot com article. I really don't know who
- 7:27Speaker 3: they are either, but it is written by Kate Lee
- 7:32Speaker 3: hay l Ehy. Again, not necessarily advocating for them or anything,
- 7:38Speaker 3: but I think she did an amazing job with this article.
- 7:42Speaker 3: But she actually wrote most surprisingly of all, female friendships
- 7:46Speaker 3: are actually good for your physical and mental health. Researchers
- 7:48Speaker 3: at UCLA found that female response to stress can be
- 7:52Speaker 3: reduced after a release of oxytocin, which came when surrounded
- 7:56Speaker 3: by their female friends. In another study, it was found
- 7:59Speaker 3: that valuing for ships influence better health among adults, and
- 8:03Speaker 3: the head of psychiatry at Stanford University in the US
- 8:06Speaker 3: said one of the best things a woman can do
- 8:08Speaker 3: for her health was to quote nurture her relationships with
- 8:11Speaker 3: her friends, and then goes on to say, it's noted
- 8:14Speaker 3: that women who are around their female friends see an
- 8:17Speaker 3: increase in release of chemical serotonin, which controls your mood
- 8:21Speaker 3: and it's responsible for happiness. And studies have also shown
- 8:24Speaker 3: a strong link between human attachment and good mental health.
- 8:27Speaker 3: And I feel like these are all obvious, but it's
- 8:29Speaker 3: also exciting that they did the research for it specifically
- 8:33Speaker 3: among women in that level.
- 8:45Speaker 1: I will say yesterday it was really sad.
- 8:47Speaker 3: If you heard my happy hour a week ago, it
- 8:50Speaker 3: wasn't cute, but it was a lot of things that
- 8:53Speaker 3: was going through my head and I was kind of spiraling.
- 8:55Speaker 3: And then last night I decided to go to work out,
- 8:58Speaker 3: and I have made really good friends. When I go
- 9:01Speaker 3: work out to these places, we just connect on a
- 9:04Speaker 3: very superficial level, but it's joyous. It helped my mood
- 9:08Speaker 3: so much to be around them, to do something together,
- 9:11Speaker 3: to enjoy the music. The teacher there, DeMarco, He's an
- 9:14Speaker 3: amazing guy. But I like just connecting with friends again
- 9:18Speaker 3: and the women that we get to hype each other.
- 9:21Speaker 3: It's one of the best things. Hyping one another up,
- 9:23Speaker 3: I think is a whole different level, especially being on
- 9:28Speaker 3: a superficial level, just enjoying their personality is nice. And
- 9:33Speaker 3: I definitely see that kind of level of like serotonin
- 9:36Speaker 3: rising and feeling being able to like calmly sit instead
- 9:39Speaker 3: of watching the world burn. And then I was thinking
- 9:43Speaker 3: about this again, specifically with the holidays, and we were
- 9:46Speaker 3: very stressed. I am very stressed with this, and I
- 9:49Speaker 3: was thinking about the people who have lost families. I
- 9:50Speaker 3: talk about not having a connection and that does feel
- 9:53Speaker 3: like a loss to me, but truly losing grieving over
- 9:56Speaker 3: families who have died passed on to you have cut
- 9:59Speaker 3: off all connect with and how that really is a painful.
- 10:02Speaker 3: These holidays are a painful, painfull time, especially if you
- 10:06Speaker 3: feel alone. And there is an article written by Rebecca
- 10:11Speaker 3: Brenner for The Times and is titled the Revolutionary Power
- 10:14Speaker 3: of Female Friendships during the Holidays, and she specifically talks
- 10:18Speaker 3: about the loss of her mother, and she also talks
- 10:22Speaker 3: about the fact that she doesn't do the depth of
- 10:23Speaker 3: what her mother did and she never will and I
- 10:27Speaker 3: appreciated that because, yeah, no way in hell I would
- 10:33Speaker 3: do what my mother loves to do and also stresses
- 10:37Speaker 3: out about which ends up with her calling my father
- 10:40Speaker 3: a also part of our family tradition, one of my
- 10:45Speaker 3: favorite moments. But she genuinely is mad at my father
- 10:49Speaker 3: for being neglectful and not helping out as much as
- 10:52Speaker 3: he should. But I think it's interesting she talks about it,
- 10:56Speaker 3: and she says, this holiday season, I won't cook her
- 10:59Speaker 3: a lot holiday dinners, I won't go to midnight mass
- 11:02Speaker 3: or check my two young kids across the country for
- 11:04Speaker 3: large extended family gatherings, but I will step closer to
- 11:08Speaker 3: the memory of her because of the love and the
- 11:10Speaker 3: support of the women in my life. And I really
- 11:12Speaker 3: thought that was a beautiful story, like, yes, she lost
- 11:16Speaker 3: a mother, but she and she might not do exactly
- 11:19Speaker 3: what she did, and there feels like a little lost
- 11:22Speaker 3: in that, but she knows where she can find that
- 11:24Speaker 3: same love and level of love and care and support
- 11:28Speaker 3: through the women in her life. She also talked about
- 11:30Speaker 3: the twenty ten study which was written by Anna M.
- 11:33Speaker 3: Martinez Alman entitled college Women's female Friendships a Longitudinal View,
- 11:40Speaker 3: and she was found that female friendships are quote a
- 11:43Speaker 3: site for assessing meaning of self and of reality, a
- 11:47Speaker 3: site for the experience of different perspective and viewpoints, and
- 11:50Speaker 3: an opportunity for growth through interdependency, and in a more
- 11:54Speaker 3: recent twenty twenty study in feminism and psychology found that
- 11:58Speaker 3: female friendships are quote site of ease, escape and refuge.
- 12:03Speaker 3: And I think it's so perfect, especially as we talk
- 12:06Speaker 3: during the holidays as a stress feeling a little bit
- 12:09Speaker 3: of loss, feeling a little bit of non direction, I guess,
- 12:12Speaker 3: not not sure what to do half the time, there's
- 12:14Speaker 3: a lot going on, and seeing all our articles like
- 12:17Speaker 3: this and reminding yourself, yeah, yeah, friendships are important and
- 12:25Speaker 3: it can be hard to maintain as adults with different
- 12:28Speaker 3: stretches of life, but it is important to try to
- 12:31Speaker 3: try to maintain them. And she goes on, Brennan goes
- 12:34Speaker 3: on rights, and perhaps this is the best gift we
- 12:36Speaker 3: can offer one another, our presence and kind words in
- 12:40Speaker 3: a culture and season that can feel so transactional. Being
- 12:43Speaker 3: shaped and nurtured by your people's compassionate attention feels revolutionary,
- 12:47Speaker 3: and it does, and it does in any I want
- 12:51Speaker 3: to thank you because you're one of those revolutionary people.
- 12:54Speaker 3: For me.
- 12:55Speaker 1: I love you, and you are for me.
- 12:56Speaker 2: I love you too.
- 12:58Speaker 1: The other day I was.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Like smiling to myself, remembering because I told the story
- 13:04Speaker 2: recently of our disastrous lazy river.
- 13:10Speaker 1: It's just like having those.
- 13:12Speaker 2: Memories where we were literally being laughed at by the
- 13:16Speaker 2: hotel save an old man in a tube and a
- 13:20Speaker 2: young kid in a tube. Yeah, but we shared it together.
- 13:25Speaker 1: It was so funny. It was so funny.
- 13:28Speaker 3: It was because both of us were in the same boat,
- 13:32Speaker 3: realizing both of us were bad at this.
- 13:35Speaker 2: We're bad and relaxing, which is perhaps clear.
- 13:39Speaker 1: That everybody else was confused, and they're like, well, we
- 13:41Speaker 1: love it.
- 13:42Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm glad you were a part of this
- 13:43Speaker 3: because that would assessed me out more.
- 13:45Speaker 2: And then we did it twice because we got stuck
- 13:48Speaker 2: in the loop.
- 13:49Speaker 3: We couldn't get help, but we couldn't get out, so
- 13:52Speaker 3: we just sacrificed it.
- 13:54Speaker 2: We did. Oh man. It was funny though. But it's
- 14:00Speaker 2: things like that, having those those memories, sharing those times,
- 14:05Speaker 2: like even if it's maybe you know, like not necessarily
- 14:10Speaker 2: your thing, like with life, there's my friend, but like
- 14:14Speaker 2: having that and like having those stories, it does feel
- 14:18Speaker 2: like such a boost and such a light and so precious,
- 14:24Speaker 2: like so important, and yeah, I can totally see the
- 14:30Speaker 2: kind of healing nature of it. We've talked about it
- 14:33Speaker 2: before in other episodes too. So yeah, I am so
- 14:37Speaker 2: lucky have the friends I have that they're willing to
- 14:41Speaker 2: be goofy with me, and I can be goofy with them.
- 14:44Speaker 3: And just to this menty fam, if you do feel alone,
- 14:48Speaker 3: I hope you hear this episode and know that we.
- 14:53Speaker 1: Do hear you when you.
- 14:54Speaker 3: Write to us, when you let us know what's going on.
- 14:56Speaker 3: I know we got a lot of messages on Instagram
- 15:00Speaker 3: specific to a lot of Anie's loves. I didn't respond
- 15:03Speaker 3: to those. I'm sorry I showed it to her, though
- 15:04Speaker 3: I love y'all.
- 15:05Speaker 1: I will respond. But yes, we.
- 15:08Speaker 3: Do see them, we do hear them. Those who send
- 15:12Speaker 3: out support to us. That's the same thing. There's a
- 15:14Speaker 3: healing to that as well. When you hear our own
- 15:18Speaker 3: struggles or vulnerability and then you come in and just
- 15:21Speaker 3: talk about your own and and like validate what we're saying.
- 15:26Speaker 1: It's lovely. So we thank you.
- 15:28Speaker 2: We do thank you. It really means so much so
- 15:32Speaker 2: and I hope sometimes I worry that it sounds like
- 15:35Speaker 2: because when you get like one bad message, and I
- 15:38Speaker 2: feel like I worry that we make it sound like
- 15:42Speaker 2: we're not talking to the people who are listening. I'm
- 15:44Speaker 2: pretty sure. The people who send those like saw a
- 15:47Speaker 2: title will send you are all lovely, is what I'm saying.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Now we get like one and I'm like, no, I know.
- 15:58Speaker 1: A lot of reviews same way for me. I'm like, good,
- 16:01Speaker 1: I all hate me.
- 16:03Speaker 2: No, everyone is so kind, and I do love another thing.
- 16:05Speaker 2: I love about things like like what you were talking
- 16:08Speaker 2: about friends, Gibsons. I love like the traditions people make
- 16:12Speaker 2: because I have the cheese giving my friends and I
- 16:15Speaker 2: used to do a gift exchange where you couldn't spend
- 16:18Speaker 2: any money on it so you would get the most
- 16:20Speaker 2: ridiculous things, and I loved it. I've told the story before,
- 16:23Speaker 2: but one of my favorite things was Friends show Katie.
- 16:28Speaker 2: It was a big bird ornament but the legs were
- 16:32Speaker 2: broken off, and I adored It's like one of my
- 16:36Speaker 2: favorite ornaments. It's so weird and and every time I
- 16:43Speaker 2: see it, I think about that.
- 16:44Speaker 1: I'm like, where did you get this? She stepped on
- 16:47Speaker 1: it and I was.
- 16:48Speaker 3: Like, oh, I'll give it to my imagination that goes
- 16:51Speaker 3: into there are ornaments that you can't touch on my
- 16:54Speaker 3: mother's tree and if you break it, like oh no.
- 16:58Speaker 3: In my head, I was like, yeah, I would have
- 16:59Speaker 3: taken and just giving it away and be like no,
- 17:01Speaker 3: don't ask, that's the way.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Yes, it could be. I've never gotten the full story
- 17:09Speaker 2: out of her. Maybe this year, maybe this, but yes,
- 17:14Speaker 2: we would love to hear listeners about your thoughts about this,
- 17:17Speaker 2: if you have any traditions with your friends. Oh there's
- 17:21Speaker 2: also oh man, I meant to talk about this. Over
- 17:24Speaker 2: on Savor, we did an interview with somebody who used
- 17:27Speaker 2: to work at the Butterball Hot Wine, a sponsor, and
- 17:30Speaker 2: one of my favorite stories she told was about getting
- 17:34Speaker 2: a call from a group of women in college who
- 17:38Speaker 2: were like trying to cook a turkey in a crockpot
- 17:40Speaker 2: and had short at the power.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Like that is the fun memories you're mate?
- 17:44Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love it.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Anyway, if you have stories like that, please we need them.
- 17:50Speaker 3: Please do we have a collection we could share holiday
- 17:54Speaker 3: all episode?
- 17:57Speaker 2: Yes, please, that would be great and emails at Stephan Media,
- 18:01Speaker 2: Momstuff at iHeartMedia dot com. You can find us on
- 18:03Speaker 2: Twitter at mom Stuff podcast, or on Instagram and TikTok
- 18:06Speaker 2: at stuff One never told you. We have a tea
- 18:09Speaker 2: public store and we have a book that you can
- 18:10Speaker 2: get wherever you get your books, and an audio book
- 18:12Speaker 2: because some people have been asking me about that. Yes, yes,
- 18:14Speaker 2: and we did narrate it.
- 18:16Speaker 3: Yes.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Thanks as always to our super producer Christina, our executive
- 18:21Speaker 2: producer Maya, and our contributor Joey.
- 18:23Speaker 1: I think we need a tradition. What do y'all think?
- 18:26Speaker 3: Christina?
- 18:27Speaker 1: What do you think?
- 18:28Speaker 3: Yes?
- 18:28Speaker 2: Yes, and thanks to you for listening stuff I never
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