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Utah Jazz Trade Up Rumors | Darryn Peterson Concerns at #2 | Donovan Mitchell Carries Cavs | Blake Snell Injury Update · DnA Sports Recap

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  SPEAKER_05: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_03: All right, man.
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  SPEAKER_03: So before we get into this, man, I know last time we spoke about how I mentioned previously that we were not going to look back any longer.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: But I actually You did actually specifically say those words.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, that we were not going to look back on the time that we were tanking and the times we were trying not to win games.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I actually had I saw something that came up to came up uh previously in like uh you know when you're doom scrolling and you're seeing like old sports highlights, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_03: Something came up and it sparked a thought.
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  SPEAKER_05: Sparked some interest.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, I like it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And what we're gonna do is this is gonna be the official last time we talk about.
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  SPEAKER_05: Are we gonna give like a final goodbye?
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  SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
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  SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
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  SPEAKER_03: I I just don't I just there's just one more thing I want to get off my chest about this team, about how this is going on.
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  SPEAKER_03: And again, since it's past us, there's no anger.
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  SPEAKER_03: No, there's no anger, there's no resentment.
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  SPEAKER_03: About how things were going for the team before.
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  SPEAKER_03: And obviously, we're not gonna do all the hoopla, and there's plenty of jazz uh commentators on the internet who lost their ever-loving mind when it found out that we got the number two overall pick.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you saw any of those, but oh my goodness.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, which is fine.
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  SPEAKER_03: We'll we'll cover that kind of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_03: But what we wanted what I before we get into all that, I wanted to cover one thing and and one thing only about the space that we've gone through over the last couple of years.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I wanted to preface this by saying it's a goodbye to the team that we never got to know.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So one of the best things about watching a bad team, AJ, is you you get invested into them.
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  SPEAKER_05: You really do.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I remember the early Gordon Hayward days, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Teams with like Earl Watson, Jeremy Evans.
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  SPEAKER_03: Remember the whole early, you know, early oop.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, throwing those back alley oops, you know, the Burks we had.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Trey Burke, Alec Burks.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, those memories can stick with you and with me.
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  SPEAKER_03: And one of the biggest ones that stepped with me uh during that team, and I don't know if you remember this guy, but the kid's name was Bryce Cotton.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And there was this one thing, one play.
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  SPEAKER_03: Rodney Hood, remember him?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the guy was supposed to be the guy.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he was like, he was the franchise cornerstone, man.
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  SPEAKER_03: He was going to be the franchise cornerstone.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_05: At a Duke, I think he was drafted 16 overall.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, until until he was told he has to be the man.
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  SPEAKER_03: Then he's like, No, I don't want it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh but yeah, but he had a couple like game-winning shots.
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  SPEAKER_03: How was that that game against Dallas?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: How was that that game?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was a crazy, crazy game.
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  SPEAKER_03: Shout out to Corey.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for the tickets.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, but yeah, so one of my most favorite plays from like a team like that was when um Rodney Hood threw an alley dunk to Bryce Cotton.
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  SPEAKER_03: And Bryce, probably like an inch taller than me, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, six foot one goes up there and just throws it down over two defenders against the Mavericks.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that is something I will never forget for my entire life.
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  SPEAKER_03: And there are there are so many of these, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: The sad thing is we will never get to know this team like those teams.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, to those who watched every single game over the last couple of seasons, you might disagree with me on this one.
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  SPEAKER_03: But when it comes to this, man, it's been the last three years, you know, it's just been really tough to watch this tree and try to get invested in this because these players were never trying to win.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, the players were always trying to win.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: But we knew that they were always going to go out there, perform well for three quarters, and then they were gonna bench everybody and then try to lose the game.
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  SPEAKER_03: And any players we tried to get invested in, you could probably name five players over the last three years that you were really keen on that we traded away at the trade deadline because they were helping this team win, and that's not what we wanted.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_03: You could probably name five off the top of your head.
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  SPEAKER_03: I know I can.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, but it's you know, and it's really getting to the point where you know you couldn't really connect with these teams because you knew they weren't trying to win ball games.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's sad because it would have been so much fun to watch this team actually try and win.
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  SPEAKER_03: And man, can you think about it?
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  SPEAKER_03: Think about this starting lineup, AJ.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: You had Keontae George at the one, you had Bryce Sensiba at the two, Larry Markin at the three, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Put whoever you want at the four, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, over the last three years.
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  SPEAKER_03: Not even Triple J because he only showed up at the training line.
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  SPEAKER_03: Put Youssef Nurkic.
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  SPEAKER_03: Perfect.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then you have Walker Kessler at the five.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: How fun with and then you got coming off the bench, you got Flip.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you know, some of the guards we have Kevin Love.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Kevin Love.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then on top, yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_05: Like, who would have thought Kevin Love would play for the Jazz?
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean I would have.
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  SPEAKER_05: We there is an episode, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: On the internet about us specifically saying there is no chance in hell Kevin Love's on this roster for the season to start.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_03: And think about all the different players that we could have seen coming off the bench for this team.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, and how much fun it would have been to watch these players develop that we never got to watch.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: What what kind of give me like your thoughts on that and kind of give us an example of like your reflection there?
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, is there a team back where you were just like, this team was fun to watch, even though they didn't win in a lot of games?
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean, yeah, this team was fun to watch because it was really cool to see some of the younger players that did get it develop.
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  SPEAKER_05: Like we saw Keontae George kind of take that second year leap, um, which was which was really fun because you saw him become like kind of become a man into the league, right?
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  SPEAKER_05: Isaiah Collier came into the league, he was a late draft, slid in the draft, um, and then you saw him come in and get limited minutes, and then they kind of forced him into a role where he was like, Okay, we expect Isaiah to be a somebody, you know, like he we need you to be somebody, like even if it's just a backup point guard, that might be your job in the NBA.
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  SPEAKER_05: But can you be good enough?
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  SPEAKER_05: Can you be defensively aggressive?
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  SPEAKER_05: Can you pass the ball and you know create space?
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  SPEAKER_05: Like and I and we watched him before our eyes over the last couple seasons become the guy where you're like he's going to keep he's going to be a key bench player on this team.
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  SPEAKER_05: Like that that's who it's going to be.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, obviously we drafted Ace Bailey last year with five.
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  SPEAKER_05: You watched Ace come in and and really just grow throughout the whole season.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, he wasn't starting.
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  SPEAKER_05: We kind of predicted he would start throughout the season.
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  SPEAKER_05: He didn't start to start, you know, to come out with a season.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um but you saw his progression through throughout the whole year just become a guy that you could go to to get a bucket.
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  SPEAKER_05: He could make a tough bucket over somebody.
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  SPEAKER_05: He's a serviceable defensive player.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, he showed that he played with a lot of effort and he wanted to be here.
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  SPEAKER_05: And you're like, okay, I'm on board with Ace.
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  SPEAKER_05: And you know, Cody Williams, you know, I think they kind of they kind of molded him into the player that they wanted him to be.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, in in college, he was like, Okay, well, he's he's a really good offensive weapon, he can score from all three levels.
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  SPEAKER_05: And they told Cody, like, hey, you need to be able to defend somebody.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_05: You're six foot ten.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_05: And if if you can't defend anybody on the wing, you're useless to us.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_05: I'm assuming that's how the conversation goes.
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  SPEAKER_05: Obviously, I wasn't there.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, you know, our inside insiders say.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_05: But but you saw Cody kind of turn into a player that was making a much more defensive effort.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and so this team got so much better.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_05: And and it was like, I think we have enough pieces that this could be a really good basketball team.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_03: And that's kind of the point where I'm getting at that we're not gonna get to see that.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_03: Because regardless of who we draft, yeah, there's gonna be redundancies, right?
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_03: So some of this team is not gonna be there next year, but I think we already saw some of this team.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_05: Like players be players I was excited for, and I know you were excited for Walter Clayton Jr.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely, gone, Taylor Hendrix, gone.
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  SPEAKER_05: Kyle, I mean, Kyle Anderson wasn't super exciting about, but like he was on the team for a cup of coffee, but George Niang for a cup of coffee.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, dude, George Niang.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_05: Didn't even play a game in a jazz uniform when he returned.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but but player like but those are a couple young guys, right?
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  SPEAKER_05: In Taylor Hendricks and White Walter Clayton Jr.
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  SPEAKER_05: that we were excited about when they drafted him.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: I know I was excited about Taylor Hendrix, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: And and it was like, okay, these are some guys that could be good pieces.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_05: And and Taylor was a big piece of that, right?
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I mean, we drafted him at what 10?
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_05: I think we drafted him at 10 as well.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_05: So he was a guy that you're like, okay, if he could turn into a really good 3nd player, this could be the guy.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_05: You know, this could have been our power forward of the future.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_05: He could be the power forward of the future because he's he's quick, he's a good defender.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, I mean, there there's some pieces that were in there that you were like, you were invested in Taylor Hendricks.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_05: I know I was.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_05: Why why wouldn't you be?
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  SPEAKER_05: This this guy could have been a basketball player.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_05: So I mean, he is a basketball player, but yeah, he could have been a good one for the Jazz, exactly, is my point.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_05: So um I don't know, man.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think there's a lot of players and that that we did kind of get invested in over the last couple of years that as you're watching this team not try to win, and but still, but it was exciting to see growth on this team that wasn't trying to win.
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  SPEAKER_05: And unfortunately, I think some of these players got too good too fast, where it's like, okay, no, we're at the tail end of the season and we need to bring in some G-League players that and give them a shot to win an NBA contract somewhere.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because we can't win more games, like these guys are getting too good, right?
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_03: And it was just it's unfortunate because we would I really love those years where we're on the border of the playoffs, right?
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_03: Where you know, can you imagine if this team was competing for a play-in spot?
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_03: Like it would just though those kind of investments in this team we never got because we knew if you won too many games, they were gonna trade half of it at the deadline, yep, you know, early on, and then towards the end, again, we're gonna sit everybody for injury and then 10 days.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_03: So I just really kind of felt like we got robbed of a rebuilding team that we got to enjoy following.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_03: And so that's kind of where I want to say it.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_03: I'm super excited about the Jazz going forward.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_03: I really think with this, you know, with this new pick that we're gonna get this summer, and then what this team develops in over, you know, early in the fall of next year, this team's gonna make a lot of noise in the Western Conference, and I'm looking forward to it.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, so just wanted to hear from you folks.
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  SPEAKER_03: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to that.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, what are your thoughts regarding this team over the last you know, three years?
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_03: Who stood out to you as a player that you would said, even though like you know, this team was tough to watch at times, who stood out to you the most as a player that you wanted to, you know, really enjoyed following during this time?
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know what your thoughts are.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_03: Uh all right, man.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_03: So we want to go ahead and jump into uh our next segment.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_03: So we talked about you know the whole concept of you know who we're gonna be picking.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go ahead and talk about that.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_03: So um there's been a lot of rumors, right?
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_03: Lots of rumors.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_03: Lots of rumors regarding the number.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, as soon as they got the number one, as soon as they got the number two spot, the rumors began, right?
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_03: It just became uh instantaneous.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_03: So um now we're not gonna go into the whole thing there.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna basically kind of break down the trade rumors and get into it pretty quick and then kind of just put this thing to bed and then move on because I think next week we're gonna talk into we're gonna talk more about why why the jazz shouldn't even bother trading up, basically, which I think is something we need to put in.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, do you want to talk about that now or do you want to put that into next week?
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_05: I think it might I think it might roll into this conversation.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, we'll we'll hint at yeah, we'll hint at it, then we'll you know.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um anyway, so it was reported by the C by CBS Sports that the Wizards were listening to offers for the number one overall pick uh in the NBA draft this year.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_03: It was also reported on May 14th by Mark Steins that the Utah Jazz have reached out to DC regarding uh the draft draft lottery results.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, so what's the asking price there, right?
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_03: Basically is what we're trying to find out.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_03: And that's kind of what's been floating around most is that the Jazz are willing to kind of basically the ones that we've been seeing the most is the Jazz will be giving up a their second round, their second overall pick, right?
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_03: So first round, second overall pick, and then a second pick or a combination of picks or a young player.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_03: So the most connected to that has been Ace Bailey as that player.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_03: Now we go back to last offseason in the draft, and you know, Ace's management was trying really heavily to tank his draft stock to get him to Washington.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_03: Washington, DC.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's the player they wanted.
• 13:34
  unknown: Yeah.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_03: So logic there would give that, hey, you know, you guys want this player, and we will take the second overall pick for Ace Bailey.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, anybody who watches the jazz or even has an inkling into the NBA knows that that's never going to happen.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_03: Not a chance.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, it is important to note that uh the inside scoop uh on DC is that there's been nobody um coming up with uh anything specifically, but it has been noted that they are looking for what they call a godfather off type offer.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um so I don't know, man.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_03: What's your thoughts on this potential trade?
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_03: Or you know, what would you want to see out of something like this if the jazz were to move up?
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_05: Um I think that in this position where you are you are in a a really talented draft, right?
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_05: Where you've got you've got four to five franchise changing players potentially, right?
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_05: This is just early speculation, you know, running through the draft combine, you've got four to five guys that are really good.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_05: I think asking for a pick swap is one thing, a future first round is one thing.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_05: I actually think that's acceptable, right?
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_05: Like you need some compensation to move back in the draft.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_05: But when you want to throw in a top five pick on top of a pick swap and moving down one spot, the answer is just absolutely no.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, not only that, it's one that developed nicely.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's not like this kid's a bust.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_05: And it's not like he needs any room.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_05: Like Ace Bailey could start for the Jazz next year.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_03: Potentially, we'll see.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_05: And I don't think he will, but I'm saying he like there's a bunch of teams in the NBA that Ace Bailey's a starting level player.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, easily.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_03: Easily.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_05: And unfortunately, on the jazz, when they're healthy and they're trying to win games, Ace Bailey's not there.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_05: He's just not.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_05: He's like he's not better than Laurie Markinen or Triple J or you know what I mean, like those two players that are kind of in that that realm, you know, you're not gonna put him in above Keontae George or like you're not gonna try to find a place for him because the Jazz are in a very specific spot where they need a certain type of player, right?
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_05: In my opinion.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_05: And that's just my opinion.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_03: Well, before before we move on from that and get into that specific type of player, what would be the trade package that you'd be willing to give to go up to number one?
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_05: It would be to go to go up to number one.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_05: I would I would swap picks and offer a future first.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_05: I love it.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_05: That's it.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_05: That's as much as I would give to move up to number one.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_03: I have a few things I'm thinking of.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so to go up to number one, here's a few options.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_03: So we do a pick swap, right?
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_03: They get the number two.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_03: And if they want a future first, we do that, just like you're talking about there.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: Or two, and they want a young player, nice, nice knowing you, Bryce Sensibaugh.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_05: Sensibaugh.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_05: I would even probably be okay with Cody Williams.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_03: Or maybe even Flip.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_03: Flip.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_03: One of those three.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: Or maybe even two.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_05: But I don't think any of those three add enough value.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, but you're going, you're just dropping one pick.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_03: So you're still getting a number one overall pick in any other draft over the last 15 years.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_05: And and the thing is, is with Bryce Sensibaugh, he's still a lottery draft pick, right?
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_05: No, he's a second round.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he slid out of that.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, technically, yeah.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: But you're still getting a nice second round player.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_03: But here's my Danny Ainge move.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_03: You ready for this?
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_05: I am.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: DC wants ace, you give him ace.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_03: But you don't give him the number two overall pick.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_03: You give them a combination of whatever young players they want.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_03: They want Ace, they want Bryce, they want Isaiah.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_03: You give them that a flip.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_03: You give them any one of those key role players that the Jazz had that started later in the season, right?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_03: And then you back up the truck on every single one of those draft picks we've hoarded over the last that are coming up in the next five, six years.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: And you dump all that onto the table.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_03: And you take one and two.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_03: And the jazz pick one and two.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_03: Who tell me that's not a Danny Age move right there?
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_03: That is a Danny Age move for sure.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_05: Because we've because we've got so much draft capital.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_05: That that does make dude.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_05: That is that is fantastic, actually.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_03: Because think about that.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_03: They got Trey Young and they got Anthony Davis.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_03: They're going to sign one of them to an extension, and then they're going to try and build around them as a player, as a star.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_03: Well, the Jazz got a lot of young talent they can trade over.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_03: They also have a bunch of draft picks they want to rebuild after that.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_03: And honestly, if you look at the only other team that has more draft capital than the Utah Jazz is going to be the OKC OKC Thunder or maybe the Spurs.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_03: And but their top, their developable young talent isn't as good as Utah has, right?
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_03: At least not anybody they're going to be willing to give up.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: So, I mean, if you're talking about a Danny Ainge type move, that would do it.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: That's a Danny Ainge type move.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_05: That would do it.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_05: But they're, I mean, they would never go for that.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_05: To give up a one.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely not.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely not.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, I'm just saying they want Ace Bailey.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_03: If that's the asking price, Ace Bailey.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_05: Then if Ace Bailey's the asking price, we will offer you Bryce Sensaba, Cody Williams, Ace Bailey, but we also want our number two pick.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're not trading in the number two pick.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_03: We will trade you five other first round draft picks.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_05: For it.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_04: That would be legendary, dude.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_04: That would be I mean, to get Dibanza and Peterson out of the draft.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_04: Right, exactly.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, geez.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just saying.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, hey, Danny, give us a call.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_03: We're on, we're on uh we're on call for uh we absolutely are too.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_05: You can you can reach us online at dnasportsrecap at gmail.com.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_03: And again, so that's just something I thought of and I thought it would be kind of fun to discuss.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_03: But in that aspect there, go ahead and tell me uh what you're what you want to get into on that.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean the the big thing is is the Jazz are in a really I mean they're in a perfect position at number at number two because uh the Wizards the Wizards got the first pick and who do they deem is the best player in the draft?
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's it's pretty rumored that Darren Peterson might be the best player in the draft, AJ Dibanza might be the best player in the draft.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_05: Who do they think fits their program better?
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_05: And I think if you just got Trey Young, you don't take another true point guard, right?
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_05: So they're gonna take but Dibanza number one.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_05: But if they roll the dice and they take Darren Peterson, the Jazz win.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_05: The Jazz absolutely win.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_05: So staying at two for the Jazz is the best case scenario, no doubt about it, because you still get Darren Peterson, even if they take Dibanza.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_05: And if they don't, oh no, we end up with AJ Dibanza.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_05: Like it's the best two is like pick your poison for the wizards.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and honestly, they have kind of they're kind of redundant at both spots, yeah.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like if you absolutely are.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_03: You traded for Trey Young, so you better resign him, or else that trade doesn't make any sense.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, you don't go after AJ if you plan on re-signing.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I guess a lot of people don't think AD is sticking around, but which is unlikely in Washington.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_03: Likely it's probably that they're gonna go and think that what if they shock the world and go with uh what's his name from North Carolina?
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_05: Could be maybe they go with Caleb Wilson, yeah.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_05: Number one overall.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: Man, that'd be weird.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: But uh oh dude, that would be a dream.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_03: That would be so weird.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_05: Like, but if that's the case, do the jazz take Dibanza or Peterson?
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a good question.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_03: We'll have to find out.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I can tell you who they take.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm pretty sure I know who they take.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we're not gonna milk this out like some um YouTube channels who have to milk a week's worth of content out of the same concept.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we don't need to do that.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I heard the craziest one, and like, why shouldn't uh the jazz consider a cuff at two?
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_05: It's just that was David Locke, too, dude, and it's just so disappointing.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: I just feel bad because you know he's just he's gotta do something every day.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_03: So he's got us.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, it having it luckily, you know, some it's like a gift and a curse to do it weekly.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_05: Because it's like we missed a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff happens right after we shut filming off, but at the same time, it's like weekly content is much easier to create than daily content.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, for sure, for sure.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: Speaking of which, let's so let's go ahead and say that they do best case scenario, right?
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so let's say that that the jazz do um, you know, stay at number two.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_03: And let's say that uh DC makes the right call and drafts AJ DeBanza, and uh the Utah Jazz are sitting at number two, and the Jazz, let's say, stay chalk and pick uh Peterson at number.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: Number two.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_03: Uh now the only reason why some of the jazz faithful, and I'm very, very pinion on that point, is some of the jazz faithful um would not be over over the moon with this pick is simply to do with his health concerns.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: This uh again, there you know, this is our first pick where we've ever gotten to move up in the draft.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_03: And shocker, we're probably not gonna be in the draft lottery anytime soon after this year.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_03: So it's a very, very important to get this pick right.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: So there's some concerns around Peterson, right?
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_03: And it's uh to deal with like cramping and his availability due to health.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_03: Peterson says his doctors do as he said that his doctor said is due to excessive creatine supplementation combining with his natural high creatine base levels.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: But that's not really the full story, is it, AJ?
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_05: I I I don't believe so.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_05: And and full disclosure, we are not medical professionals, okay?
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_05: We are purely going off of what he has stated and and what could possibly be going on here, right?
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_05: So Darren Peterson reported multiple times to the media that he had never taken creatine before going to college, right?
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_05: He said that after the season, he took two weeks off.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_05: They did tests, and it showed that his baseline levels was already high.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_05: And so, like when he's increasing his dose of creatine already, um, it took the level of creatine in his body to an unsafe level.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_05: And he he kind of talked about how his legs started cramping, you know, followed by his stomach, his back.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_05: Like he went into pretty much a full body cramp.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_05: That's concerning for uh a potential number two, number one pick, right?
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_05: This this this is a very talented basketball player.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_03: A 19-year-old kid.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_05: And a 19-year-old kid.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_03: Who's an elite now elite athlete?
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_05: A simple Google search, okay.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_05: And I I tested this because I simply Google searched, and it'll tell you that if you take too much creatine, um, that you can take too much creatine, right?
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_05: That is a thing.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_05: Like you can you can take too many creatine scoops, that is real.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_03: And by doing one scooper.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you can cause severe dehydration, and if you don't significantly increase your water intake, that one of the major side effects of taking too much creatine is cramping.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's due to dehydration.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_05: Your body, like taking a lot of creatine, makes us you have to you have to fill that back in, right?
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, when your levels are already high and you're at death week at Kansas.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_05: So some of your other side effects are like stomach discomfort and you know, like but that's not but what if it's something more than just taking too much creatine?
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, that that's really my question here, right?
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_03: Like Yeah.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_03: I I I just I honestly think that's the answer he gave to reporters, because that's the best way he can explain what the doctors told him at the combine.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_05: And what did the doctors tell him exactly?
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_05: He had increased creatine levels.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_05: Levels.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_05: That's what he told him.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_05: Now, let me just go into something here.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_05: That's what he said that they said.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_05: There is uh a symptom or a diagnosis called rhdomyelosis.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_05: It is commonly referred to as rhto, and Webster specifically defines this as the destruction or degeneration of muscle tissue as from excessive exertion accompanied by the release of breakdown products into the bloodstream.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_05: Now, like you just mentioned, in every single college, you go through a hell week where you are pushed to your physical limits to see if you are ready to be a division one athlete.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_05: And playing at Kansas, that is no joke.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_05: They're one of the top colleges in the country in the country, right?
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_05: Like Kansas has got a reputation to hold.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_05: You've got to make sure that even if you're a five-star prospect from the best high school and the best team you can play with at a Division I level.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_05: Now, all of these colleges do this.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_05: They they push their athletes all the way to the limits.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_05: This happened to Brownie James.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_05: Like this happened when he got he had his whole medical scare when he went to USC.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_05: Wasn't that a heart thing, though?
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_05: His was a heart thing, but it was due to the same thing right now.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_05: Right, right, right, right.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_05: This is it was Hell Week.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_05: Like it was, it was push these guys to their limits.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_05: So this is this is a disorder that's seen pretty commonly in um, and it's pretty commonly experienced uh with inexperienced marathon runners, right?
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_05: So it's a breakdown product, and and and the breakdown products, like when I just said that um release of breakdown products, that is muscle fiber that is breaking down, which can cause severe cramping.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_05: So how do you think, Darren, that they they diagnose um rhodomyelosis?
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_05: Oh gosh, I have no idea how they would diagnose it.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_05: They do it with a blood test, my friend.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, a blood test.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, makes sense.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_05: The blood tests for rhdo, that's what it's commonly referred to, rhdo.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_05: Um, it will show an increase in the marker creatine kinase.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_03: Right, which is probably what he heard.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_05: Creatine kinase.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_05: That is the that is the marker in your blood that shows you have that that you went through rhto, right?
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_05: Like that you had that that symptom.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_05: Um and it's typically not a small increase.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_05: It's typically elevated to 10 times the normal lever level if you had rhto.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_05: So meaning your your levels, because they were so high, they're gonna stay elevated for a long, a longer period of time rather than just like taking a creatine supplement and stopping it.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_05: Like your your body metabolizes creatine, right?
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_05: You take it, yes, it goes into your blood, and it and taking a creatine supplement will absolutely increase your creatine levels.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_05: But creatine and creatine kinase are completely separate things, right?
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_05: So rhto recurs in roughly 5% of young athletes, right?
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_05: So if you've been diagnosed, then you have a 5% chance of it reoccurring.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_05: And yeah, that's that's pretty low.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_05: And and I'm willing to bet that most young athletes probably don't have a full team of medical staff that's constantly monitoring you and doing everything they can to do to ensure that you're safe and you're in the best possible position, you're staying hydrated, you know, immediate access to IVs, like even most colleges are probably not as on top because they're not invested four to five years and tens of millions of dollars into.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_03: So, yeah, exactly.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of people who are throwing up the say if this is it, then you know, Kansas has a lawsuit coming their way, allegedly.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like, again, we're not doctors, we're not legal professionals.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_03: We just, we just we're taking what we've the the studies we've read and everything and kind of providing that out here.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_05: But if there's a chance that Darren Peterson confused increased levels in creatine kinase with creatine, it seems like that's pretty easy for a 19-year-old who has millions of dollars on the line.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_05: That's a pretty easy downplay right there, right?
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_05: And the question is, is that a concern?
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_05: That's the concern.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, to me, that's the real concern.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_05: That's the real concern because this is a top two pick that the Jazz can absolutely not miss on.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_05: This is their franchise cornerstone of the future, right?
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_05: Laurie Markinen's got three to four years of great basketball.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_05: If you can draft a cornerstone now, this this guy will be the cornerstone of Utah basketball moving forward.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_05: You know, and and playing next to Ace Bailey and Keontae George and all these guys, right?
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_05: But so I don't know, man.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_05: I I I think that this is this is all very convenient, the way that it was worded, the way that it was presented to the media, the way that the media has continued to spin it saying creatine is the issue and he shouldn't have a big deal.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_05: I would hope that the Jazz do their due diligence and request blood tests, and especially at this time, um, I'm pretty sure I'm I'm sure that's something that he would have to like what is the word?
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_05: He would have to agree to disclose he's gotta say, yeah, you can take my blood and do all the further testing and all that kind of things, right?
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_03: Here's my here's my take on on that.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_03: So let's say it is Rob Doe, right?
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, let's just say again, not medical professionals, we're just going off to what industry professionals in the medical community that have talked about when it comes to these kind of things, right?
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um let's say it is Rob Doe.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_03: Is that still really a concern?
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_03: For everything I've read on based off of Rob Doe, is it's a manageable condition?
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_05: Very manageable, very manageable.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_05: No, I I don't think so.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_05: Because again, I don't think that most people that get this have a$20 million staff of medical professionals that are constantly treating them, checking their hydration levels.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_05: They're not probably eating as good as NBA athletes do.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_05: Staying hydrated.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_05: Staying high like right, like they're in great physical shape.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_05: Like this is something that most commonly happens with people that are trying to run marathons 26 miles and and didn't make it because their body just gave up on them.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_05: So no, I I mean I don't think it's a huge concern, but I think the concern would be more that this kid's downplaying what may it and is it a downplay or is it simply a misunderstanding?
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's a misunderstanding.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_05: There you go.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_03: I 100% agree.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_03: Think that it's just simply him misunderstanding what the doctor said, and he heard creatine and he knows he's taking creatine and probably taking too much.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_03: That might have been a thing.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_03: And even even maybe even the Kansas doctors said, Hey, yeah, this is creatine, you know, what whatever the other word is, Sinise or whatever it's called.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um, not Americal Professional.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_03: And I think he just hurts kinase.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_03: Canise, can I heard it both ways?
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_05: Heard it both ways.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_05: Um, dude, I said that at work today.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and no one got the joke.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_05: Seriously?
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_05: Tell them to watch the show, man.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_05: Seriously.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_05: Seriously.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_05: Losers.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, man, I think that's totally what happened there.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_03: And again, to basically just kind of wrap this one up in a bow, I if this is the situation that is going to be the biggest concern for jazz fans that this that Peterson's not going to be the player because of his health condition and the health issues, it's simply because it was just misdiagnosed in college.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_03: And, you know, I think this is a is is a kind of a nothing burger that the jazz fans need to worry about when it comes to this kid.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_05: I totally agree.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_05: I think that if you have an opportunity to take Darren Peterson with the number two draft pick, you take him in an instant.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_03: I I just, yeah, there's nothing.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_05: Don't watch Darren Peterson tape.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_05: If you're not convinced, go watch him.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_05: And don't watch highlights.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_05: Watch a Kansas game.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_03: Not even a Kansas game.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_03: Go back to his AU high school ball.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_03: Before this was really an issue.
• 32:49
  unknown: Yeah.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_03: And then you'll see his explosiveness and what that player is really available.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_03: Because that's basically what they're saying.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_03: His like his explosiveness and his ability to run was kind of downplayed at Kansas.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_03: And you know what?
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_03: If he's dealing with this kind of stuff, yeah, that's probably a reason, right?
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_05: That's not and one of the big things is like what what the concern is is that he has PTSD from getting these full body cramps, yeah.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_05: Cramps.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_05: Like he's so scared of it happening again that he's got some mental stuff to deal with, right?
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_05: Like he's terrified.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_05: And I and I get that.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_05: Like anybody that's gone through one of these full body cramps is 100% on board, they say the exact same thing.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_05: It's terrifying.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_05: Like he said in his interviews that he was telling the medical team to call 911 because he didn't know it was happening.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_05: But I think if you can you again have access to NBA resources as far as counseling, as far as a medical professional and in any way, shape that you might need, this is the kid you have to spend this draft pick on if he's available.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_03: 100% agree.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you, folks.
• 33:51
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• 33:53
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• 33:55
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• 34:00
  SPEAKER_03: Do it.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um, primarily in regards to this issue.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_03: We got a comment here from Greg Hawkins, channel legend, Greg Hawkins.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_03: Uh creatine made me nearly pass out of the gym once, took too much, and didn't hydrate enough.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_03: LOL.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_03: Now, Greg, knowing you, man, I don't know if that's actually happened or are you just pulling our chain?
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_03: Which way is that one?
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_05: I I mean, Greg, I've I've seen you.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I I don't believe that you took too much creatine.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, come on now.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_05: You're ripped, is what I'm saying.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_03: I that checks.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_03: That checks.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um, before we get before we uh wrap up here about uh the MBA here, one thing we want I wanted to do is definitely uh you know kind of tip our DNA cap uh to a former uh Utah Jazz legend in Donovan Mitchell.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_03: Donovan Mitchell uh he's done the undoable, he's done what he could not do in here in Utah, which is the first time in his 10-year career, he has made the conference finals.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_03: So we want to just give uh an attaboy there and and uh and our you know DNA hat tipping to one Donovan Mitchell for making it to the conference finals for the first time in his career.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_03: Good job, man.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_05: I I think it's really hard not to cheer for Donovan.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_05: Like I'm I mean, I I loved him when he was here.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_05: He always had the right attitude, he always worked hard.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_05: Um till the last year.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_05: Well, but I mean he's Donovan's a great basketball player that that took this jazz team to some of the best seasons that we've ever seen.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_05: Um so to you know, I just I just wish him the best.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_05: I I would love to see Cleveland come out and make the conference finals or the NBA finals and and have Donovan make an appearance.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_05: Whether he wins or loses, he's gotta be there.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_05: That would be super cool.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_05: Um very cool.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, just wish him success.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: And again, in the face of a lot of folks who felt like he wasn't the guy, yeah, primarily one uh commentator Shakira O'Neal who sits on a sits behind a desk and talks about how it was better back in the day.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, so he was basically I wanted that t-shirt, man.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_03: It was the jazz logo with eye across it instead of jazz.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: I wanted that shirt, dude.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_03: I thought that was so cool.
• 36:07
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• 36:08
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• 36:10
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• 36:17
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• 36:24
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• 36:25
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• 36:29
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• 36:29
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• 37:00
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• 37:04
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• 37:06
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• 37:07
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• 37:11
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• 37:12
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• 37:16
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• 37:17
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• 37:19
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• 37:19
  SPEAKER_03: All right, let's go ahead and pivot on over and talk a little bit about Major League Baseball.
• 37:23
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• 37:31
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• 37:44
  SPEAKER_03: First of all, folks, welcome.
• 37:45
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• 37:47
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• 37:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um we're gonna start the show uh with this great comment from Channel Legend Greg Hopkins.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_03: Breaking news, Cubs suck again.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we're actually gonna talk a little bit about the cubbies this week, so it's gonna be fun um sticking around.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_04: Um breaking news, though.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_04: Breaking news.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's crazy, man.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_04: Darren does it in his reporter voice.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_04: It's way better that way.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_04: My reporter voice?
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_04: I have a reporter voice.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_04: You just did it, yeah.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, good to know.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_03: Good to know.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_03: Don't ask me to repeat it.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_03: Never gonna happen.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um, all right, let's go ahead and jump into it, man.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_03: What's our first subject of the day?
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_05: Oh man.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_05: I I think I think the headline that we have on our on our page here is loose bodies strike again.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, geez.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_05: So I want to know why.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_05: Like, right, like why did your guy Blake Snell?
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, did he have to join the club, dude?
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_05: Edwin Diaz, Terrick Scooba.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_05: They're great pitchers, right?
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_05: But they're both suffering from the exact same thing.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_05: Loose bodies and the elbow.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_05: It was reported over the last couple days that Blake Smell Blake Snell has the same thing.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_05: Blake Smell.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_05: Blake Smell.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: That's a throwback right there.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: DNA OG's know what we're talking about.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and uh, he has undergone surgery to repair it with the expectations he will return this season.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_05: Um, what are your thoughts and how does this affect the Dodgers rotation for for the coming time?
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_03: Well, he did go under um what's called a scuball scope, is what they're calling this.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_03: I love that.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_03: Have you heard that?
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_03: Cool name, no, but that is awesome.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_03: So it's a new minimally evasive uh procedure uh where they remove the three loose bodies.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_03: Uh apparently they they know how many there are in his elbow.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this procedure uh takes about a month off of the recovery time.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_05: That's excellent.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_03: Which is excellent.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_03: Turk scuba.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh he's already thrown BP.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_03: Dude, this exact same procedure, and uh it causes less tissue damage with uh faster recovery because it's some type of um nano needle procedure.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_05: Dude, I'm willing to bet that thing is probably like I'm just nano, you can't see it, right?
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, I mean a microscopic incision that they go in and like suction cup them out or something.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's insane.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_03: It's insane.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_03: But it is reported that Scuball was actually soft tossing a baseball a week after his surgery.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_03: And like you said, he's already starting to, you know, starting to ramp up, so uh, which is awesome.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_05: And he's only been down, what, three weeks?
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I mean, he's he's close.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_05: So that's great news for the Dodgers because they need Blake Snell back.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh well, it's great to hear you know that he won't be that we won't be out without him for the rest of the season.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_03: He just came back uh from shoulder inflammation.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you got a chance to see this, but you see him on a live stream when he's live streaming.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, because he he does that, he live streams and plays video games like 2K and it will be the show.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_03: And someone commented is like, hey, when are you gonna get off the D off the uh IL and start pitching?
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_03: And he just like smacking shoulders, like, hey, shoulder, stop being inflamed.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like he's like, What are you talking about, man?
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_03: Like, and I and I love that, dude.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_03: I love when players like clap back and be like, hey, uh more on that to come later.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I was gonna say that is a great lead-in for the next story.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_03: But absolutely, man, like this is you know, this isn't great because he literally just came back on the I.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_03: Tyler Glass now.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_03: You know he's a Dodgers player, right?
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_03: Just went down on the 10-day IL dealing with back issues.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_03: And yes, I know.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_05: Does this guy have chronic bash back issues?
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_05: I feel like he's always sidelined for back issues.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_03: It's just because it's simply the Dodgers are just a different team to follow, man.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_03: And it's really frustrating.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_03: I know Boohoo, the back-to-back World Series champions.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_03: No one's gonna listen to me whine about my team, right?
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_03: You know, but it's really, really frustrating when everybody else is playing for a series.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_03: Like when we were playing against the Braves, right?
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_03: Go Braves.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like the Braves got up for that series, and the Dodgers act like they really didn't care.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_03: They took down Blake Snell, and that was pretty much it after that.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_03: You know, yeah.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_03: Not like Blake Snell, they took down Chris Sale, you know, and then lost the rest of the games.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_05: Correct.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_03: Dodgers lost four games in a row, beat Chris Sale, lost four games in a row after that.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, it's just absolutely insane uh and frustrating to watch this team because they do this, but that's exactly the point.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um, this team is not built for May and April, they don't really care.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_03: What they want is they want these arms in the postseason, being ready in October.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_03: So Tyler Glass now, if you sit on the IL until September and get ramped up for the off for the offseason, great.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_03: Blake Snell, same thing.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_03: If you are, you know, gonna be ready, you know, with a month left the season to get ramped up, and we'll just continue doing what we're doing right now.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so right now the Dodgers are relying on, and this is this is how is interesting the situation is because again, the Dodgers went out and signed um like a couple years ago, they signed over the last like three or four years, they probably spent almost a billion dollars on pitching.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, they spent a lot of money on pitching, and right now we're relying on Yoshinobu Yamamoto, who pitched in the WBC, by the way, after basically pitching the whole World Series by himself.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_03: Basically.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_03: Shohei Otani, who's pitching right now for the Dodgers.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_05: Um he's pretty good at it, though.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_03: More to come on that.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_03: We'll talk about him next week.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, in his first full season back healthy as a pitcher, we're relying on him as a pitcher.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we also have Roki Sasaki, who, by the way, I would like to comment there that uh, you know, hey, um who said that Roki Sasaki was not going to be a frontline starter for the Dodgers right out of the draft.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_05: I'm pretty sure that was you.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_03: Pretty sure that was me.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_03: Um and yeah, he struggled.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_03: And he's had a good, he had a good outing, last outing, but that was against the Angels.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, you know, so take that as you take it as it is, like a four-Ace team, right?
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_03: And then so, you know, he's shaky at best.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_03: You got Emmett Sheehan, his first year back from TJ.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_03: He's basically a two-pitch pitcher, and his VLO drops after the first line, first time through the lineup.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_03: So we're relying on that kid.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_03: And we're also relying on my favorite pitcher of the Dodgers right now, Justin Roblesky in his second year.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_05: He's been really good though.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then I really love how he like dropped the mother effer.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_03: No one's talking about you in the World Series against the Blue Jays.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_03: It's an FU Mother Effer.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_03: I love that.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_03: Because like the guy threw his head at the ball, so Robesti is like, final, hit you in the hand.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_03: He throws the next pitch right at his head.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_03: You know.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, so that's who we're relying on.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_03: For this team to spend over a billion dollars on pitching, you know, that's who we're relying on.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_03: And we just traded uh for uh another player, another pitcher, Eric Lauer.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_03: He was from the Blue Jays.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_03: He has a six-point, very nice six-nine ERA, but that's actually not nice because it's a bad ERA.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_03: And he has a record of one in five.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_03: Uh his ERA last year was uh 3.18, and you know, he's gonna be more of a reliever than a starter, but um the Dodgers need to go with a six-man rotation because we have these Japanese starters.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_03: You need to have a six-man rotation, yeah.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_03: And we're trying to we're gonna have to have a bullpen game every sixth game because we don't have any barring arms.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, so it's just it's really kind of tough to piece it together.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, this uh Blake's name will go down for loose bodies, yeah, it affects this team quite a bit.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_05: It's kind of wild to think because they're still not in bad shape.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, they're still well above 500.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_05: Still hitting the ball.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_05: You still gotta show away every what fifth game.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_03: Sixth, yeah.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_05: Six, yeah, fifth game.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_03: So every fifth game, yeah, you're right.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_03: Math Darren.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_03: Geez.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, you could say every six, but that would be wrong.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_03: It would be wrong, yeah.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_05: So I don't know.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_05: I think the Dodgers are like you said, it must be tough being a Dodgers fan because you have so much talent and so much money spent on this roster, and then just watching them lose series to teams like the Braves that the Baves are the second best team in baseball right now.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_05: So like the Braves are the best team in baseball.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_05: Second best team in baseball.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_05: No, they're the best team in baseball.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_03: No, they're the second.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_03: I can pull it up for you if you like.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_03: No thanks.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_03: But like, yeah, that in that situation, I'm okay with losing to them, losing a series to them.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_03: But like, there's you know, they push against the Rockies, you know, there's just there's a whole bunch of series they shouldn't lose.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_03: And honestly, it's just because this team does not care about right now.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_03: They are perfectly care perfectly okay with getting 87 wins and coasting into a wild card position for the postseason and then letting it rip from there.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_03: Like, and it's just so frustrating as a Dodgers fan to know that this team treats the regular season like spring training.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_03: It's a little frustrating.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, speaking about uh before we move on from there, let's go ahead and hit some of these comments because some of them are actually quite funny.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, right here, Pacific Northwest Ute says more like back-to-back issues.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_03: Tyler Glass now.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and again, that the dude did come through the postseason last year.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_03: He did had a couple starts and did pitch out of the bullpen when it mattered.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_03: So, you know, you love to see it.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and again, we got a few things here we want to talk about.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_03: First, again, I want to hit this one again.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_03: Breaking news.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the Cubs suck again.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_03: And more importantly, this one, uh, PCA got fined for clapping back.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um, which actually is gonna be our next segment, AJ.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, it sure is.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_03: So uh for those of you who don't know about this, this is uh PCA, uh P.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_03: Crow Armstrong, uh, who is the center filler for the uh Chicago Cubs, yeah.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um, which by the way was a really fun series when they were doing the whole crosstown rivalry thing, you know, where the Dodgers were playing the Angels and the Yankees were playing the Mets, the the Cubs were playing the White Sox.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_03: That was a fun series to watch, man.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_03: Do you know the White Sox were like one game out of first place?
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_03: If they won that game, they would have been in first place in their division.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_03: That's craziness for a team that's lost three years in a row, 100 games.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_03: It's absolutely insane.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, so P.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_03: Curl Armstrong misplayed a deep fly ball uh where he ran into the wall.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_03: And I wouldn't call it a misplay.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't like he had an error on the very tough ball.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_03: It was a very insane play.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_03: And if he made that catch, it would have been one of the catches of the year, let's be honest.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_03: And this was against um against the White Sox, and it caused a game tying double for the White Sox.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so as he sat near the fence after the play, a female White Sox fan was heckling him and reportedly yelling, You suck! And and you know, Pigro.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_03: Double thumbs down.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like the video's all over the internet.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we can't show it here, but yeah, we'll yeah, absolutely.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_03: And then basically he responded with some obscene insults that uh was caught clearly on the broadcast from the mic out there, as well as on several mobile phones that were recording it right there.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, the fan later told Chicago Sun Times that she was actually there uh at the game for her engagement party and was intentionally heckling him because she was a White Sox fan.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um, which I didn't know they existed.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_03: I just thought they were all their own.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, they're they're myths.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the next day, Peter Armstrong publicly apologized.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't know if you really call this apology, but I was gonna say he regrets his choice of words.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_03: Uh he was frustrated and emotional in the moment.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_03: Uh he especially bothered uh that kids and women and in his life would actually see that clip online.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, it is like um Greg Hawkins mentioned, he was fined five thousand dollars for the exchange.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_05: Oh no.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, what's that gonna do?
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_05: You know, he probably had that on cash on him.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_03: That probably was what he earned in his first at bat.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_03: So um, and then you know, basically he he can't appeal though, so he might appeal it so he doesn't have to lose like his lunch money.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, this became huge on social media.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_03: The audio video was released everywhere.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, Pico Armstrong is one of the rising stars of Major League Baseball and basically the face of the Cubs.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um the interaction happened during uh the crosstown rivalry, which is always fun.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, absolutely.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_05: And and I think I think finding him has probably taken it a little bit too far.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, I understand CA is a professional athlete.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_05: And as fortunate as it is, you get talked to like this all the time, though.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_03: And this time this by far was not the worst thing ever said to him, I guess.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_05: Guaranteed.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_05: And and realistically, he gets caught with someone that you know, you get caught with a an outfield mic and then another multiple camera shots that just happen to be happening in the outfield.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so the whole the whole interaction gets recorded, which was no benefit to him at all.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_05: Um But all you can do in this situation as a professional athlete is try to control yourself.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um and nothing nothing should happen to you because this lady is being pretty extreme, and these guys are human.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_05: Is she though?
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_05: Isn't that just like a common fan heckling yelling you?
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_05: But what?
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_03: Have you ever gone to a game and heckled other players?
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_03: But to that point, no, that's definitely not, definitely not.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_03: And I definitely wasn't celebrating my engagement, probably had a little bit of liquid courage flowing.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_03: So um, but honestly, dude, like I honestly think this was an overreaction to a team that started performing poorly.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_03: And this was just a young kid who uh didn't have control of his emotions.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_03: But like you're right.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_03: I he needed to do better.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_03: Honestly, I actually think the fine is perfect because what's the alternative?
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_03: Suspension.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's true.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_03: And I'd rather have him pay uh, you know, a nothing fine.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_03: A nothing fine change that he can find in his in his you know cigarette drawer in his car, like they even have those anymore.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_05: But like I don't think they do.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_03: But in his Porsche, yeah, exactly.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_03: He's just the change he has in his cup holder.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_03: I'd rather have that be what happened versus an actual suspension because let's face it, the Cubs, they're a great baseball team.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_03: They're one of the franchise teams and Major League Baseball.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_03: Like one of the like when you talk about baseball, they're one of the longest running clubs out there.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_03: They're one of the teams, you know, that people talk about.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I think a fine was probably the better option than giving him suspension.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_05: I agree, because you don't want to take him off the field.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_03: No, and then you know, he actually even chirped back to some fans in the on the on-deck circle later in the same game.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_03: So he just was not in a good mood that day.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, you're right, dude.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_03: It's by far not the worst thing he's ever said, and the fact that he decided to say what he said to a lady, you know, is just not great.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_03: Not a good look.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, we'll um, you know, chalk it up to being young and hopefully he'll uh learn from this and move on.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_05: That's all you can hope for.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, man.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_03: All right, and speaking of uh learning from something and moving on, um, before we get into that, let's go ahead and talk about a few, let's hit a few of these comments from Greg.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_03: I love Chicago, it's great, man.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_03: Some of the best games are the Cubs and um yeah, the Cubs and White Sox games.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_03: So I think my mouse just died over there.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_05: Oh no.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_03: PCA struggles uh with apologies.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_03: And that's kind of, you know, again, as a Dodgers fan, I've heard some of the stuff he said about the Dodgers, and you know, he didn't necessarily actually walk any of that back or apologize at all.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_03: He basically just doubled down and said, Yeah, I still agree, I still think what I think.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and then we got a comment here from Tammy Price, fan of the channel.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, he's a great player, though.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, Tammy said both of those.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, thanks, Tammy.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_03: Appreciate the comments there for sure.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, so speaking of which, let's go ahead and pivot on over to uh another situation here involving somebody who hopefully learns a lesson.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you want to go ahead and break this one down?
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_03: We didn't mention this guy, one of the loose elbow guy, loose objects of the elbow.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_05: I did, I did.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_05: Um, Mr.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_05: Edwin Diaz has been um repeatedly linked um recently through social media posts, promotional material, and news coverage to illegal cockfighting events um in Puerto Rico.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_05: Um now, this is kind of a double-edged sword for this guy because you kind of mixes felony animal cruelty with a little bit of illegal gambling, um, and right into a nice little bundle.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_05: So uh the Animal Wellness Action and Center for Humane Economy urge the MLB to investigate Dodgers pitcher, Edwin Diaz, for illegal cockfighting activity in Puerto Rico and also encouraged them to take speedy disciplinary action if the activity is proven true.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_05: What do you think of this, Darren?
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_05: And then how does this continue to affect the Dodgers?
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, more pitching issues for the Los Angeles Dodgers.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_03: And speaking of which, like I hate that they call them the Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_03: I know he's pitching for the Dodgers this year.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_03: But exactly like Trevor Bauer, man.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_03: Pitched, at least Bauer got halfway through his first year before it became Dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_03: You know, now we're like, what, 10 games in, and then he goes out for an injury, and now it's Dodgers pitcher Edwin Diaz is connected to this.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_03: Well, when you put Dodgers in the beginning of it, it gets a whole lot more clicks on it.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we see that firsthand for sure.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um, absolutely.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_05: So we can vouch for that.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_03: We can, we absolutely can.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, so okay, let's get into it, right?
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_03: So uh Club Galisteco, I can't really say that right.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_03: Galisteco?
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_03: Galisteco.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds right.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_03: I've heard it both ways.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um De Puerto Rico filed an unsuccessful lawsuit against the federal government in 2019, challenging the cockfighting ban, because it is a federal thing, right?
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the case was upheld in lower courts, and the U.S.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_03: Supreme Court declined to take on the case back in 2021, allowing the lower decisions, uh, lower court decisions to stand.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um so now since then, the Island Department of Sports and Recreation, the DRP, continues to license and regulate dozens of cockfighting, uh, establishing um, I think they're called Galaras.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but anyway, uh local laws, uh, Puerto Rican lawmakers, um legislation, what they're doing is they're continuing to uh keep the sport alive, arguing that the federal ban overreaches into uh the state's rights and infringes on the 400-year-old cultural tradition of cockfighting um in Puerto Rico.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_03: According to USA Today, the federal prosecutors have openly acknowledged that the animal fighting remains a widespread on the island and that the local police and government official larger officials largely refuse to enforce the federal ban and instead of permitting instead they're permitting local island cock fights to operate with impunity.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so okay.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_03: So what that means is this is not as illegal as it sounds.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_03: It depends on how you sit, right?
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like, are you a states' rights guy or are you a federal guy?
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_03: Are you pro like now culture?
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_05: But to get to dive into that a little bit, right?
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_05: Puerto Rico is technically a US territory.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_03: US territory.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_05: So it it's it's a US territory that has its own governing body, though.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_05: So exactly.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_05: So they decided at a at a local governing level that it was illegal.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_03: That it was legal.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_05: That it was legal.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_05: The states decided it was illegal.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_05: And then they sent it to the US Supreme Court and they said we're not even gonna touch this.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_03: The yeah, the lower courts, the lower federal courts are saying no, it's a ban, we're not gonna accept it.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_03: But Puerto Rico, their local government, they say, look, this is part of our heritage.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_03: We've been doing it for 400 years.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_05: This is who we are.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_03: This is this is who we are.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_03: I've seen a few people who are trying to tie this to um the dog fighting issue with Michael Vick.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_05: Not the same thing.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_03: Kind of not the same thing.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, not kind of, Darren.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_05: This is really not the same thing.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this is not like killing Fido, right?
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_03: This is like This is really not the same thing.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_03: No, and honestly, it's it's yeah, is it bad in the US?
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_03: And if this was like if he was a US-born player playing in Cleveland and he grew up in Indiana, this would be a completely different story.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_05: And he's going to Puerto Rico to purely bet on cockfights.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_05: It would be much different.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_03: This is a completely different scenario.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_03: And I think it's a little, I think it's not as cut and dry as people want it to think of.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_03: And there's a lot of folks out there that are going to be saying, like, oh, you know, it's inhumane and it's, you know, a blood sport like this is disgusting.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_03: And why we actually do absolutely agree with that here, you know, you really gotta have to check it.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_03: There are tens of thousands of chickens that get slaughtered every single day, so you can have your dino nuggies.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_05: Do love dino nuggies.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, just for the record.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_03: They are de-beaked, declawed, and forced to in tiny things and peck at their food to get as fat as possible so they can't even walk.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_03: Where's where's your where's your you know, sense there?
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like the selective outrage that people have when it comes to this.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think it's absolutely disgusting.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_03: I don't participate in cockfighting.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_03: And do I think it should be allowed?
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely not.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_03: But do I think it's something that, you know, Major League Baseball needs to take a stand on?
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_03: Well, guess what?
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_03: Conveniently enough, they can.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't have to be a federal case.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_03: There has to be there doesn't have to be anything that happens in courts or in public things for this to actually have an effect on Major League Baseball.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_03: And Major League Baseball can do to Edwin Diaz what they did to Trevor Bauer.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_03: And basically just simply say your actions, whether it happened or not, is detrimental to the game of baseball, and we can make a stance and we can make a thing on this.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_05: And we all know what happened with Trevor Bauer, right?
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_05: It's not that this guy's not talented, it's not that he's doesn't deserve to be in the league because of what he can do on the baseball field.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_05: It's the things that happened off the field that affected him enough that he will never play in the league again.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, which I hope is not true, but you know, he's getting older and it just kind of seems to be the case.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_05: That's a topic for another day, though.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we'll definitely get into that here a little bit later for sure.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, man, so we'll have to see.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, will baseball take a stand on this one?
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_03: Do you know?
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_05: I I think that if they do, I hope they see it from a perspective that is culture and growing up somewhere, because if you grow up in a situation where it is the everyday norm to go to cockfights, you don't comprehend that that's not right.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_03: Especially when your own state is telling you it's it's legal.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_05: And you have the police that are supposed to be enforcing these laws.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_03: Right, and they're not.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_05: And they're not.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_05: So it's really tough.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_05: It's tough.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_05: And it and it there is.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_05: There's like a weird gray area there where it's like, does he deserve to be reprimanded for something that he grew up watching?
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_05: He grew up in this community.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_05: I don't I don't know if I agree with that.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's really tough, man.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's really tough.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_03: Now, how this affects the Dodgers?
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_03: Well, unfortunately, he's already been out due to injury.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so loose bodies.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, loose bodies.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_03: Not eligible to play.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and he um, you know, since we've established, since we lost our elite closer, that again we signed specifically for this reason.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it's now beencome uh more of a closer-by committee for the Dodgers.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we will see arms like Tanner Scott, who uh was supposed to be our lockdown closer that we signed last year.
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, which he did not have a good year last year, but is having much better year this year.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, he's handling a lot of the high-leverage situation situations along with Alex Fessi.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_03: And then also there, we also signed uh Vesia's ridiculous, too.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_05: So good, dude.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_05: So good.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_03: For a guy who can't break 95, he's insane.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um they signed uh Jonathan Hernandez, uh formerly with the Phillies to fill in uh for that role as well, and also Will Klein proved himself in the World Series last year, never pitched more than 10 pitches, 15 pitches in a baseball game, ended up throwing 35, going four innings in that 18 inning slug fest.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_03: And Grato Rickes, he's been pretty good.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_03: Kyle Hurt is back from TJ uh and is healthy this year, so he's seen some time.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so hopefully by committee we can fill this in and kind of and also we're gonna have uh some other arms come back, like Evan Phillips, hopefully, by the end of the year.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_03: So luckily the Dodgers were already you know planning on him not being around for a while because he's been hurt, so this one really doesn't affect it, but the Dodgers are making moves to make to you know basically cover that.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go ahead and hit some of these comments here because a lot of them are in regards to this.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_03: We want to make sure we get uh get to that.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see here.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um see Tammy Price.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_03: Tony Price, channel legend, channel, friend of the channel, that's her nickname, right?
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_03: Friend of the channel.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_05: Friend of the channel.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, it is embarrassing.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_03: How do we not know this?
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_03: So that's kind of my point there.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_03: I was talking about this when we talked about our pre-show meeting.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_03: The Dodgers really need to hire somebody to look into this.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_03: This is like how many times are we gonna sign a player?
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_03: We missed this.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, how many times are we gonna sign a player and then have an issue?
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_03: We had uh Julio Rias with his domestic violence issues twice, you know, that we didn't seem to get it catch on.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_03: Trevor Bauer with those issues that he had both on and off the field, you know, um, that we should have kept, should have caught.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, and then now with Edwin Diaz, man, like who's doing the investigating into these players?
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we got another comment here uh from uh McKinley Cutler.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh just got here, and I know I'm a little late for this, but did but we did it.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_03: The Jazz got the number two pick.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, here come uh Peterson or AJ.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, dude, it's crazy, man.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna get either one of them.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so excited.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_05: And we just did a really good comment or a really good whole section on both of those picks.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_05: So make sure you re-watch, buddy.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_05: It's really good.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_03: In any case, Diaz needs to be cock blocked, dude.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_03: P Pacific Northwest, you is just killing it with these.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_03: You must have kids, dude, because these dad jokes are just killing it.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_03: Just killing it.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, the Philippines have a thriving cockfighting industry, which uh shocked me at first when I moved there.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's right.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_03: He did spend some time there.
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_03: Wild.
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_03: That is wild.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_03: And just wondering what your thoughts are on Brendan Brendan Sorsbury's gambling situation.
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, think he's gonna be able to play uh this year for Texas Tech.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna go with no.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna answer this.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, absolutely not.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think that he is in really, really deep trouble.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_05: Um, which is great for the Utes.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, great for the great for BYU.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_05: This is great for the conference because uh I I don't I didn't think Brandon Sorsby was the biggest talent coming to be the number one transfer portal quarterback.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't think I wasn't super impressed by Sorsby.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_05: But to get yourself into gambling trouble at this point in the season, what are you doing, man?
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_05: Is a big, big no-no.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um getting paid so much money, man.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_03: Like, what are you doing?
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_05: Getting paid lots and lots of money, especially from Texas Tech.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_05: So I don't see him suiting up for Texas Tech.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think this will be resolved in that much time.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_03: No, and then again, combining that with all the gambling issues outside uh with some others there, it's it's pretty crazy.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_05: Um Greg Hawkins, have you ever watched cockfighting, though?
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_05: It's brutal.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_05: They go through hundreds and hundreds of chickens in one city.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_05: I have not.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_05: I have not.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_03: I've seen them prep, I've seen them like what they do to get them angry and stuff like that.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_05: And I've a little bit a little squirmish through that.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know, because I heard it's really bloody and pretty much.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know if I could do that.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_05: Um but let us know.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe it's a super fun sport to watch.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, absolutely.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_05: McKinley.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I also I expect the Jazz to be good next year, but just watch the West semifinals.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_05: I don't see them beating OKC of the Spurs for another year or two after some growth.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_05: I think that the Jazz could very much surprise us.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_03: I think that I think the Jazz are in a unique situation when you're almost seven foot across three positions on your on your lineup there.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_03: And the shortest guy on your team is 6'6.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_05: Like with that is much harder to to defend and play than I think any of the teams in OKC has against the Spurs.
• 1:04:51
  SPEAKER_05: I think the Jazz have more talent and more positions, they are bigger.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_05: Man, it's gonna be a good season.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_03: What is Chet Holgram doing?
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_03: Like, why are you not guarding Wemby?
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I I don't understand that.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're not 7-6, but guess what?
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_03: You're 7-1, dude.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you're the best position on your team to be guarding him, and you're not.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_05: It's because he's not a great defensive player.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh just, you know, at some point you gotta step it up, right?
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, anyway, so back to baseball, man.
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, appreciate the guys, everybody, for jumping in.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much for the comments.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_03: We love them.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_03: This is a lot of fun.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so just a few things I wanted to hit over hit before we get out of here.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we're actually getting through this much this show much faster than I thought we were.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're doing pretty well.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so let's go ahead and talk about uh Greg Hawkins' favorite division, which is the MLB Central, which has been kind of crazy, man.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_03: It's been wild.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_03: So over so basically, just kind of over since we've been talking, right?
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_03: When we last meet met about what two weeks ago, uh, there was not a single team under 500 in that division.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_03: Believe it or not, still today, not a single team under 500.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_03: The Pirates are at exactly 500.
• 1:05:52
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so that holds to this time uh uh exactly to this point at this time.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and in that stretch, the Cubs went from last place to First, having two separate 10-game winning streaks in that time, which is absolutely insane.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_03: Last place to first.
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  SPEAKER_05: Greg, you can just go ahead and type go Cubs.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right there.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_03: That'd be great.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um, now they're sitting in third place, and the Brewers have George gone on a tear, winning eight out of their last ten.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_03: And the Cubs have lost eight out of their last ten.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_03: And the Cardinals, um, you know, who sold off all their talent last year, are now somehow sitting in second place right now in the MLB.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_03: And kind of went on a tear, too.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_03: Which is really weird because you know, you wouldn't expect them to be there.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_03: They got rid of all their talent and they're still sitting there.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_05: They're like, we're still gonna win.
• 1:06:34
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the Yankees looked unbeatable uh after they made some roster changes, became like the best team in the AL.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um they have now been slumping and gone four and six in their last 10, um, now becoming like the in second place in their division and the second best team in the AL behind the Tampa Bay Rays.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_03: Are now they are now the best team in baseball.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, according to record.
• 1:06:59
  SPEAKER_03: So, according to record wing percentage, they're technically the best team in Major League Baseball right now, which is really funny because that coincides uh with the Yankees falling down.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_05: I'm Googling this because the Braves just won.
• 1:07:11
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_03: It could be different.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_03: But can I go on?
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, you can.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_03: It's funny how his team doesn't play well, and then the one year he just won't shut up about him.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's it's it's great.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_03: Be excited about baseball, man.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_03: Be excited about your team.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_05: I'm doing I'm doing my best, buddy.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_05: I absolutely love it.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_05: With the Braves win today, they are the number one team in baseball.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_05: Just for the record, just to clarify things.
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_05: At the time of recording.
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  SPEAKER_05: At the time of recording.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_05: The Braves are 34 and 16.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_03: Which is the only team at 34.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_03: Correct.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_05: The Rays are 33 and 15.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_03: Very nice.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_03: So at the time of recording, folks, because we've got to make sure we always honor that, right?
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so again, with that, um I want to go back to the to the Yankees, right?
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_03: So they went from first place having a lot of uh space in their division to now being about three games below the Rays right now in their division.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_03: What's even funner about that is that it coincides with something that happened uh in the minors.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you heard the story.
• 1:08:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:08:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, but uh it was kind of crazy.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_03: So what happens um when a pitcher goes to rehab in the minors, AJ?
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_03: What are you focused on when you're in a minor league start?
• 1:08:22
  SPEAKER_05: You're just out there trying to get some reps, you know what I mean?
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_05: Throw some balls, like just get back into the group of of throwing baseballs again.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, whatever happens, happens.
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_05: You're not trying to win.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you're just trying to get velocity back up, get VLO back up, like command, yeah.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_03: Work on that regardless of what happens in the game.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_03: You don't really care, right?
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_05: No, why would you?
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_05: Why would you?
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_05: They're triple A players.
• 1:08:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, in this case, not even triple A.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_03: Single A, I believe.
• 1:08:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but anyway, so Caleb uh Boner um is a player for the gosh, I don't even know what this team this team is, but it's a minor league team.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_03: And um Garrett Cole was in a rehab start for this, right?
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_03: So this is the Yankee Ace, right?
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that is rehabbing in the minor leagues, and I believe it's like single A, double A, somewhere down there.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_03: And Caleb uh hit a no-doubter off of this guy on on in the first inning on like his fifth pitch, right?
• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_03: Might have pimped it a little bit, maybe a bat flip there, who knows, right?
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, and then so he hit a home run off of Garrett Cole.
• 1:09:21
  SPEAKER_03: And again, you're just there rehabbing, right?
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_03: You left a hanger, you know, no big deal, you know.
• 1:09:26
  SPEAKER_03: And again, keep it at this point, like the fastest pitch he threw at the time was around 94-95.
• 1:09:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:09:31
  SPEAKER_03: Right in this re in this rehab start.
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_03: That's the fastest he's gone.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_05: Which even for single or double A is batting practice.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 1:09:39
  SPEAKER_05: Like you're you're you're still playing against great baseball players.
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I just think, you know, you're throwing 95, you know, at the best, right?
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_03: And anyway, so the kid comes up, and obviously Garrett Cole's not too upset about that because he pitches to him again, you know, and he gets a single off him.
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, fine.
• 1:09:55
  SPEAKER_03: So he gets a single off him, and then his next time at the dish, Garrett Cole throws a 97 mile an hour heater, the fastest pitch he's thrown since coming back from rehab, directly into this kid's shoulder.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_05: And it's a no-doubter.
• 1:10:11
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's a no-doubter.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_03: There is no confusing this.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_03: This was intentional.
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:10:17
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't know, man.
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_03: What what's what do you take as far as this is concerned?
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_03: Like, uh, did does a player like Garrett Cole's stature, a Cy Young winner who's just rehabbing the minors, do you think it's kind of petty for him to take it down to that level and being a guy who took you got two knocks off of you?
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_05: Is it petty?
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but also as a double or triple A player, don't be that guy.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I think Don't be the guy who hits a tank off a Cy Young winner.
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_05: Don't be the guy that's that's gloating about it when you do.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 1:10:49
  SPEAKER_05: Like I don't know.
• 1:10:50
  SPEAKER_05: It didn't look like he was gloating much.
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_05: You don't got a bat flip.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_05: Because I think he does bat flip in that first bat.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_05: When he hits the dinger, I think he throws a I think he threws a pretty good deal.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, what do you want him to do?
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_03: We want to do just drop the bot and you know go over there and shake his hand and then walk to first.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_05: Act like you've been there before.
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_05: It's the miners, dude.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, everybody's bat flipping in every single home run.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_05: But also you're you're not winning a major league contract off hitting a home run off Garrett Cole.
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, he might now.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe because he got hit by Garrett Cole.
• 1:11:17
  SPEAKER_03: He's he got two hits off of him before he got beamed.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_03: I mean You know, might be worth it.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_03: If I'm a Red Sox guy, I'm looking at that guy going like, hey, he got underneath Garrett Cole's skin.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_03: I'm going, you know, let's talk to him.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_05: Let's give him a shot.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, man.
• 1:11:27
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 1:11:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like, dude, come on, you're a rehab start and you're throwing 97 miles an hour for the first time, you're geared up and you're rocking back, you're throwing as hard as you can at a kid's shoulder.
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:11:36
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like what if your command's not there?
• 1:11:37
  SPEAKER_03: What if you hit him in the head?
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I just this all around this is a bad look for Garrett Cole, you know, and I just think it's something that's kind of petty.
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't know he had this in him.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_03: I've heard rumors about this with Garrett Cole that he's kind of uh And this is the guy that's like has a lifetime beef beef with Trevor Bauer, right?
• 1:11:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_03: So it kind of makes you wonder, okay, who's really the villain in that story between those two, you know.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm I don't know, man.
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_03: I just this is not a good look.
• 1:12:03
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, if I was I mean, if I'm the Yankees, I don't care.
• 1:12:06
  SPEAKER_03: If I'm a Yankees fan, I don't care.
• 1:12:07
  SPEAKER_03: But honestly, when it comes to that dude, that's just not what you want for your frontline ace to be seen having a kind of attitude.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_03: This is Framel Valdez type shit.
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_05: It really is, you know, yeah, and we just talked about him last week, and he's been in pretty he's been in too many conversations for all the wrong reasons.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_05: Don't be that guy, Garrett Cole.
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_05: You put yourself above that, exactly.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, love it.
• 1:12:30
  SPEAKER_05: I love it.
• 1:12:30
  SPEAKER_05: You got anything else?
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_05: Uh dude, I just want to know have you seen Jacob Mysarowski?
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_05: The Miz, dude.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_05: How about that game against the Yankees, dude?
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_05: Ten straight pitches exceeding 102 miles per hour.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_05: Did you see that?
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then I think four out of the six fastest pitches ever thrown were in those ten in those ten pitches.
• 1:12:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_05: Wild.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_05: He had multiple 103.6 per mile hour fastballs.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_03: That is insane.
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_05: And the all-time fastball record, do you know who holds the all-time fastball record?
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_05: Araldis Chapman in 2010.
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_05: Threw 105.8.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, the fastest ball.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I knew that.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, you knew that.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_03: I knew the fastest throw, but like the record of how many consecutive fastballs thrown over 100 miles.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, him.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_03: Miz, right?
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:13:21
  SPEAKER_03: So.
• 1:13:21
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, Miz has the most, and he has the most like the most consecutive over 100 mile an hour fastballs.
• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_05: Like of all the fastest pitches ever thrown in Major League Baseball, he owns like 10 of the top 25.
• 1:13:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this kid's insane, dude.
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_05: Insane.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_05: I just thought it was really cool because he's young, right?
• 1:13:39
  SPEAKER_05: I think he's 22.
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_03: He was a rookie last year.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was a rookie call-up last year.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:13:43
  SPEAKER_05: And just out there just throwing heat.
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_05: I just thought it was a really cool story that he's just and throwing it consistently.
• 1:13:48
  SPEAKER_05: His his slider looks really good and like fooling people with off-speed pitches, you know.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_05: But I mean, it's really tough.
• 1:13:54
  SPEAKER_05: You get up there at 103.
• 1:13:56
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, we we did a really cool video, I don't know, probably a year or so ago, where we where we talked about like the reaction time needed to hit a hundred mile an hour fastball.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:14:07
  SPEAKER_05: Four tenths of a second.
• 1:14:09
  SPEAKER_05: At 102, it's decreasing significantly.
• 1:14:13
  SPEAKER_05: Like you're under you're you're in the three and a half tenths of a second to respond to that.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_05: And then they hit you with a 95 mile an hour changeup.
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_05: It's like that's unhittable, dude.
• 1:14:26
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_03: The kid's insane.
• 1:14:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:14:28
  SPEAKER_03: And worth everybody who barked at him for getting a chance to pitch in the All-Star game last year after 20 other pitchers said no.
• 1:14:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:14:35
  SPEAKER_03: You know, come on, man.
• 1:14:36
  SPEAKER_03: Look at what this kid's doing.
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:14:38
  SPEAKER_05: Just doing some great stuff.
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_03: Probably a big part of the reason why the Brewers are in first place in the central.
• 1:14:43
  SPEAKER_05: Really cool to see.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_03: I thought it was a cool story.
• 1:14:45
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 1:14:45
  SPEAKER_03: Great story.
• 1:14:46
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• 1:14:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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