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Tea in Thailand w/ Candiace Dillard Bassett · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: It has never given me pause or made me feel
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  Speaker 1: threatened in any kind of way because Chris does not
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  Speaker 1: want Giselle's fifty year old puss. He has no why
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  Speaker 1: would he want that when he has this.
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  Speaker 2: Stay tuned look into my conversation with Canda's Diller Bassett
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  Speaker 2: by after these quick ass hey rain drop. So on
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  Speaker 2: today's episode of Reality with the King, I am joined
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  Speaker 2: by a woman that I'm a huge fan of. She
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  Speaker 2: was surprised, but are you guys gonna be surprised? I'm
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  Speaker 2: talking about Candace Baby Candon Gal from The Real Housewives Upotomac.
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  Speaker 2: I love this woman. I think she truly, truly is
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  Speaker 2: on her way of becoming one of the greatest housewives
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  Speaker 2: of all time. Yeah, I said it, and I said
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  Speaker 2: what I said. She is funny, she is shady, but
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  Speaker 2: she also is very spiritual. Yes, she's me on dunks aside,
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  Speaker 2: we get into how she prayed and manifested herself onto
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  Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Potomac. Additionally, she talks about colorism
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  Speaker 2: as relates to her being a dark skinned female on
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  Speaker 2: the show. And last but not Lee's Baby, she throws
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  Speaker 2: an entire shade tree at Giselle Green eye bandit Bryant.
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  Speaker 2: It was so shady raindrops I had to gag, cut
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  Speaker 2: off my phone and come back up again. Okay, without
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  Speaker 2: further ado, here is my conversation with Candice deal Bassett.
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  Speaker 2: I am so happy to talk to you. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I am a huge fan of yours. Is that so?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I knew that I was? I Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So we have a good mutual friend who you've worked
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  Speaker 1: with for a very long time, who also produced me,
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  Speaker 1: who is a dear, dear friend of mine, and he
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  Speaker 1: would always talk about you, and he would tell me
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  Speaker 1: that you really enjoyed me. But I was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: he don't you have an intimidation factor because you are
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  Speaker 1: You're one of a kind in this industry, and you
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  Speaker 1: like you are a shady ass boot.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't. I don't want to be in.
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  Speaker 1: Your wake with all your success being shady, making the
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  Speaker 1: people do what they gotta do. Listen, you are you are,
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  Speaker 1: You're You're like an urban legend, but real, I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, listen, I did not expect any of this,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not an emotional person, but I'm a very
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  Speaker 2: spiritual person.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want me to fold you a tissue at
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  Speaker 1: that point.
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  Speaker 2: Please, buddy, it's like a paper plane that you make
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  Speaker 2: back in grade school. Honey, that's not your tissues. Be
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  Speaker 2: but all jokes aside. That has to be the highest
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  Speaker 2: compliment anyone in this industry has ever given me. Because
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  Speaker 2: now listen, listen, listen. People give me compliments. Don't get
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  Speaker 2: me wrong, but in the way you articulated it, in
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  Speaker 2: the sense of, you know, look, no one talks about
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  Speaker 2: how I'm not gonna cry. No one talks about how
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  Speaker 2: I did pay the way for black producers to do
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  Speaker 2: reality television and the many, many, many messages I get
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  Speaker 2: from black producers. You know, I talked about in this podcast, Candice,
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  Speaker 2: how I was the first black man to executive produce
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  Speaker 2: a Real Housewives franchise in general, and when I decided
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  Speaker 2: to step down, I replaced myself with another black man.
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  Speaker 2: I said, yes, I said, I would like to leave,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to give the reins to another black
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  Speaker 2: man and to see Eric Fuller as well, who is
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  Speaker 2: my mentee. Eric Fuller is one of the executive producers
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  Speaker 2: of Atlanta Housewives as well as Potomac. He's the Carlos
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  Speaker 2: King of Potomac. Honey, yeah. And he's super smart, super creative,
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  Speaker 2: he's so sweet. I'm overwhelmed with this pleasantry because you know, look,
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to me, a lot of people like
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  Speaker 2: can throw me shade Carlos, you're messy, you're this, your that,
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  Speaker 2: and one thing about me. I don't give two fucks
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  Speaker 2: when people say about me. So when someone can honor me,
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  Speaker 2: I receive it. And I wanted to talk to you
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  Speaker 2: because and I meant what I said because you. I
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  Speaker 2: also said earlier, like yeah, people say you like me,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, you don't like me, Like you
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  Speaker 2: don't understand I am a candy girl boy, like like,
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  Speaker 2: I love you. I love what you represent. In my
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  Speaker 2: expert opinion, you are one of the greatest things that
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  Speaker 2: happened to Potomac.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, y'all, you're gonna make me.
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  Speaker 2: And let's be clear. Let's be clear. Every once in
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  Speaker 2: a while, a reality star hops on an existing franchise. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and she or he in this case, she comes on
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  Speaker 2: the show and changes the temperature of the show. I
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  Speaker 2: said this publicly and I'll say it again. Kenya Moore
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  Speaker 2: and Poor Show Williams came on The Real House spots
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  Speaker 2: in Atlantic season five and the show hasn't been the
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  Speaker 2: same since because they changed the motherfucking temperature of that show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, when you came on.
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  Speaker 2: Candy Gal, they those girls did not know how to
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  Speaker 2: take you, and they still don't.
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  Speaker 1: They still mind blowing.
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  Speaker 2: You change the temperature of the show so much so
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  Speaker 2: you are slowly becoming one of the premier fass of
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  Speaker 2: the franchise.
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  Speaker 3: God bless you.
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  Speaker 2: Do you do you feel that way?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, I honestly, this is the honest truth.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm getting fired every year.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know, and it's and for me,
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  Speaker 1: this opportunity, I saw it as an opportunity, something that
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to use for a greater purpose within my
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  Speaker 1: career and within my life.
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  Speaker 3: And I sat down with my who was my boyfriend
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  Speaker 3: at the time. We weren't even.
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  Speaker 1: Engage my man, and we said, if we're going to
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  Speaker 1: do this, we're going to do this, and it's going
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  Speaker 1: to have purpose, and we're going to use this platform
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  Speaker 1: because the platform uses you child, so use this platform
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  Speaker 1: to accomplish things. And I have an album out, I
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  Speaker 1: have a deluxe album coming out, I have a tour
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  Speaker 1: coming out, I have a scripted series coming out.
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  Speaker 3: I have a hairline I have.
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  Speaker 1: I'm starting a new business with my mom and my sister.
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  Speaker 1: I have accomplished so much with the assistance of this
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  Speaker 1: platform that I feel like that has been my portion.
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  Speaker 3: However, you just I don't take.
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  Speaker 1: For granted that it can all be gone tomorrow, and
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  Speaker 1: the direction could shift for whatever reason tomorrow, and I
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  Speaker 1: could be unceremoniously cast out for whatever reason. Because this
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  Speaker 1: television is a fickle industry, especially unscripted, you just don't
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  Speaker 1: ever know. And you know, Potomac Is is a top show,
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  Speaker 1: and I recognize that, and I credit the ogs for
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  Speaker 1: getting us.
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  Speaker 3: On the map.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't sit up here and be like, yeah, girl,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be back.
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  Speaker 3: You just you never know.
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  Speaker 2: I read somewhere that you prayed for this opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: be a Potomac housewife, that you watched the show and
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  Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, But you said something along
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  Speaker 2: the lines of this show is missing me.
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  Speaker 3: That sounds like me. You know, I know, I know
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  Speaker 3: what I did say.
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  Speaker 1: I remember watching, Yes, I did pray about it, and
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  Speaker 1: I remember watching when so I'm from Georgia originally, so
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  Speaker 1: when Atlanta started, I was like, oh, oh.
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  Speaker 3: Let me see what these girls is about to do.
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  Speaker 1: Where are they gonna be at, what they're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: talking about? I was, and then it was I watched
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  Speaker 1: Desperate Housewives. So then when the Real Housewives of Orange
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  Speaker 1: County came around, I was.
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  Speaker 3: Like, Oh, what's this?
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  Speaker 1: But I was kind of looking with one eye because
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, white lady's talking about whatever, white peoples stuff.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine.
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  Speaker 1: But when Atlanta started, I was like, Oh, the girls
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  Speaker 1: are coming.
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  Speaker 3: To town, and I was excited.
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  Speaker 1: And so then when Potomac started, it was like another
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  Speaker 1: we're getting another black ensemble cast on this within these franchises.
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  Speaker 1: Let me turn the TV on. And then because I
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  Speaker 1: live in the DC, Maryland, Virginia area where the DMV
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  Speaker 1: as we refer to it now, it was also a
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  Speaker 1: you know, proximity to what's happening, So let me see
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  Speaker 1: what these girls are doing. Who might I know? Where
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  Speaker 1: are they going? What's the tea? I remember being in
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  Speaker 1: the bed with Chris and the show was on, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, why am I not on this show?
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  Speaker 1: Because these girls ain't doing nothing that I can't do
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven thousand times better and with more style and grace. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So what are we talking about. I remember saying that
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  Speaker 1: to Chris, and I said to Chris, I need to
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  Speaker 1: be on the show because what are they doing?
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  Speaker 3: And then I remember getting down on my knees at
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  Speaker 3: the foot of my bed.
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  Speaker 1: I had a little couch at the foot of my bed,
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  Speaker 1: and asking, God, Lord, this is an opportunity for me
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  Speaker 1: to accomplish all of the things that you have shown
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  Speaker 1: me I'm supposed to have. Let me have it, and
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  Speaker 1: I promise that I will do my best to glorify
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  Speaker 1: you in all of it. And literally the following year,
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  Speaker 1: I was getting an email from casting what God is like?
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  Speaker 1: He said, Okay, God is really my mouth is too
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  Speaker 1: powerful because I have manifested everything that I have, everything
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  Speaker 1: that I have that you see and that you don't see.
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  Speaker 1: I have spoken from my mouth, and it's I have
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  Speaker 1: chills just talking about it because I didn't I didn't
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  Speaker 1: call anyone. I didn't know anyone on the show. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know, I didn't know anything. They reached out to me.
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  Speaker 1: And I believe with everything that I am that it
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  Speaker 1: is from that brain.
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  Speaker 2: Oh listen, My entire existence in this world, you know,
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  Speaker 2: material things or or not, is because of the grace
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  Speaker 2: of God. And I am a faring man and every
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  Speaker 2: single blessing from this podcast to my late night show
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  Speaker 2: to wherever is because of God. So I believe in
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  Speaker 2: the power of prayer. So when you say they reached
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  Speaker 2: out to you and you but you had no connections
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  Speaker 2: with the current cast at that time, how do they
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  Speaker 2: find you?
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  Speaker 1: So our casting director who has casted this show from
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  Speaker 1: the very beginning, and they still do this. They are
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  Speaker 1: consistently casting and you know this every season they are
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  Speaker 1: looking for new blood, whether they bring someone in or
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  Speaker 1: not friends of full time House, they're always looking. So
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  Speaker 1: in that search, Adrian, who is our casting director, he
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  Speaker 1: scours the internets.
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  Speaker 3: He scours the instagrams and the facebooks of the world.
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  Speaker 1: And there were degrees of separation between myself and Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: myself and Katie where our orbits maybe sort of could
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  Speaker 1: have overlapped, And especially I think with Ashley because of
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  Speaker 1: the pageant connection. I've never asked him exactly where he
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  Speaker 1: looked to find me, but he tells me that he
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  Speaker 1: found me through looking on Instagram, and that's yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: then my business email was connected to my instagram, my
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  Speaker 1: pageant consulting firm at that time was connected to my
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  Speaker 1: Instagram and they reached out to me through that email.
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  Speaker 2: So you prayed for it. A year later, this casting
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  Speaker 2: director contacts you. You do the interview. I interviewed plenty
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  Speaker 2: of women who've been cast for Housewives. Some get a
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  Speaker 2: some don't. Monique talked about how she bombed her first interview.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Silva, who I know you know from Love and
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  Speaker 2: Matters DC, talked about how she did four interviews. What
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  Speaker 2: was your process, Like, did you kill at your first interview?
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  Speaker 3: I did.
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  Speaker 1: I could say that, and I know this because well,
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  Speaker 1: I've talked to Adrian about it since and.
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  Speaker 3: He says that I did a great job.
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  Speaker 1: But I know I did a great job because he
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  Speaker 1: was like falling over laughing at me.
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  Speaker 3: And I was.
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  Speaker 1: Admittedly, I will say, I am a journalist and I
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  Speaker 1: am a I'm a comms person, so research is my friend.
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  Speaker 3: I did my research before my first interview, and I.
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  Speaker 1: Remember reading that Niini had a glass of wine her
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  Speaker 1: first interview, and so I poured my I'm a drinker
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  Speaker 1: of the Brown liquors, so I poured myself.
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  Speaker 3: A glass of Jack.
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  Speaker 1: Honey, which is one of my favorite at home beverages,
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  Speaker 1: and I sipped on that and that it eased my
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  Speaker 1: nerves a little bit and helped me to just kind
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  Speaker 1: of just be uninhibited and just tell the truth about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everything that I was being asked.
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  Speaker 3: And Adrian was cracking up laughing.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, I can say that I soared in my interview,
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  Speaker 1: but I will say this. I will say that before
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  Speaker 1: I got there, I had a phone call with one
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  Speaker 1: of his associates and.
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  Speaker 3: I match energy.
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  Speaker 2: So she was.
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  Speaker 3: Giving like dry. It was like toast with no jam,
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  Speaker 3: jelly or butter. It was just dry.
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  Speaker 1: And so I was like, you know, just kind of
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  Speaker 1: answering questions, and then it was like five minutes and
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  Speaker 1: she was like, okay, well we'll be in touch. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, okay, thank you. And I just felt like
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  Speaker 1: that did not go well. So I emailed her and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this didn't really go the way that
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was going to go. So here are
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  Speaker 1: some bullet points. Because she didn't ask me anything about me.
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  Speaker 1: It was just it was very like Vanilla. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: here are some bullet points just to kind of explain
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  Speaker 1: who I am. My mama crazy, my man got all
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  Speaker 1: these baby mamas and kids over here, and I broke
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  Speaker 1: it down in a way that I knew would make
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  Speaker 1: sense and would be was palatable, and then I had my.
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  Speaker 3: Skype interview. So persistence.
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  Speaker 2: This is so good because I tell people all the time,
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  Speaker 2: no matter what field you want to get into, I
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  Speaker 2: don't care if it's entertainment, you know, hospital, teaching, engineering, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: you have to study those before you in order to
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  Speaker 2: be great, and you have to study the greats. My
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  Speaker 2: career is where it's at because I studied Oprah, I
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  Speaker 2: studied Tyler Perry, I studied all these amazing people. So
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you knew that Nini Lee's had a
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  Speaker 2: glass of wine her first interview is everything to me.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why you are a formidable player on Potomac.
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  Speaker 2: So let's fast forward to your first season.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it real with you, okay, please do.
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  Speaker 2: I obviously know the producers of Potomac, right, because the
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  Speaker 2: production company produces a lantin Potomac and your first season,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, they're hazing her, meaning you, They're hazing Candace,
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  Speaker 2: and by they I mean the cast. And I also
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  Speaker 2: felt like I will never forget this. It was the
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  Speaker 2: scene where and FYI, I do love the entire cast.
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  Speaker 2: But it was the scene where you guys were on
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  Speaker 2: a bus going to a destination.
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  Speaker 3: Oh god, and.
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  Speaker 2: I felt like they so it was this scene where
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  Speaker 2: they were like, no, you got to stand up for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta read the girls. And I was like, why
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  Speaker 2: are they prepping her to read the girls when I
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  Speaker 2: feel like she has it? And when you read cha
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  Speaker 2: cha for filth and called her jeriac chick granny and
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  Speaker 2: you read Giselle's jacket and you were you were literally
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  Speaker 2: like this sniper, maybe the DC sniper years ago has
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  Speaker 2: nothing on that mouth.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, honey, you were the Potomac sniper with the mouth
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  Speaker 2: and you were targeting each girl and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this bitch is everything. So your first season, did you
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  Speaker 2: feel like these girls were hazing you A and B?
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  Speaker 2: Did you also feel what I was feeling, like, why
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  Speaker 2: are y'all trying to prep this girl to be like, well,
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  Speaker 2: let me teach you how to read the girls. This
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  Speaker 2: is what you say when this happens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I so there is a There is an
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  Speaker 1: instance that I see all the time online where people
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  Speaker 1: say Candace got to that first lunch on that trip
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  Speaker 1: and was you know, reading at the table because the
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  Speaker 1: girls had told her in a previous scene that she
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  Speaker 1: needed to do that.
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  Speaker 3: And I always furled my brow.
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  Speaker 1: At that because Candace was always going to give what
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  Speaker 1: needed to be given when the time came. I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't ever like to pounce before you know the
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  Speaker 1: dough has risen, and that was coming regardless of what
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  Speaker 1: advice I received, and I receive all all advice. Give
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  Speaker 1: it to me, bring it here. I'm gonna I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: filter it and see what what I need to take
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  Speaker 1: or what I need to leave. But I resent that
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  Speaker 1: the general public seems to think that my trajectory on
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  Speaker 1: the show was so because of what someone told me
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  Speaker 1: to do.
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  Speaker 3: That was that was all me.
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  Speaker 1: Like this, My mouth did not start when we hit
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  Speaker 1: play on Potomac. I was always on punishment for having
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  Speaker 1: a smartass Mounts growing up. Okay, this is and if
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  Speaker 1: you've met my mother you know why because the sharp
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  Speaker 1: tongue comes from that.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, at that point, I was up.
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  Speaker 1: I was fed up because don't sit on this bus,
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  Speaker 1: on this bumpy bus and tell me that my mama
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  Speaker 1: paid for my ring girl like ten, tend to your
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  Speaker 1: business and the dwindling diamonds in your ring. Okay, like
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  Speaker 1: leave mine alone or lack thereof, because half of y'all
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  Speaker 1: ain't half no ring nor a man to gift you one.
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  Speaker 3: So I like that. That just sent me over.
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  Speaker 1: I was like what and then it was a because
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  Speaker 1: I'm petite and I have like a a cheerleader energy,
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  Speaker 1: as Giselle said in my first season, and I do
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  Speaker 1: I own that. That's I'm a bubbly personality. I think
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  Speaker 1: these girls thought that they could run me over. But
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  Speaker 1: as I always say, you bring grenades to the party,
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  Speaker 1: I have rocket.
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  Speaker 2: Launchers and you see what I call her sniper chow.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: To interrupt this juicy conversation, but stay tuned for more
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: of my conversation with Candace right after these quick ads.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Let's get back into my conversation with Candace. When you
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: wrapped her first season, did you think you would come
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: back for a second season? No, that obviously you're The
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: wedding was the opening of the following season. But did
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: you feel like, Okay, I did a great job or
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: did you feel like, oh, bitch, I may not come back,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: and what the fuck I didn't.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Know, and I at that point I wasn't thinking about it.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I think I was just kind of going with the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: flow and being in the moment, so I didn't allow
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: myself to think beyond, Okay, we're shooting the show, and
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: now we're shooting the reunion, and now the.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Reunion is over.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think I thought about at that point whether
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: or not I was coming back.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I do feel like, because I.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Was getting married and I knew kind of how the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: formula worked, if you have, you know, a burgeoning storyline,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: they're gonna want to carry that over into the following season.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I think we probably did talk about that, and I
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: think that there were conversations between myself and production about
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: what my wedding would look like if they were to
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: film it. So I kind of felt like I would
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: come back, but I didn't really question it at that time.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: But I found out later that one of our s
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: vps said that they were not sure about me until
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the read.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: When I guess my what did I say?
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: It was Lauren Lauren Esklin. She was like, she made
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: reference to me.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Calling Ashley a house triala because because that they weren't
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: they I guess they were not used to me being
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: that quick, because there wasn't I didn't know she was
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: going to say that rehearsed line about me being a
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: house daughter. I didn't know that was coming. And you
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: know you're a house Tralla. That just it just came
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: from from my stern up.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: It just came out, not rehearse read. Okay, I caught that. No,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: it's funny because I did not think you were going
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: to have a second season. And this is coming from me.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why. I Lord Jesus, I know
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get in trouble for this, but this podcast
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: is about me keeping it all the way real reality,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: this reality and the first per letters is r E
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: A L. Yeah, booboo is real. I did not think
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: you were coming back because I didn't think you were
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: set up for success. I did not think that. And
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: you are the reason why I tell people you should
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: always give a housewife a second season, because you never know.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Claudia Jordan will always go down to history as the
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: most underrated housewife because she deserves the second season.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, So your second season on the show really showed
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: why you are a formidable player. So much so you
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: literally get into with everybody, and you hold your own
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and to be a petite woman what I love about you.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: And I know you read upon Meini Leagues drinking wine
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: and that's what made you want to like, Okay, prepare
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: for this interview you have with the casting director. You
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: are on your way to becoming an icon like Kenya Moore.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: And hear me out, hear me out. I receive pageant background, beautiful,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: chocolate girl, a wordsmith, intelligent and me working with Kenya,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I always knew that the issues that Kenya had with
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: some of the women. I'm not gonna name names, but
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: some of them was Kenya, you're not only beautiful, but bitch,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: you're smart and you know how to read. And when
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: you read. When Kenya Moore season seven, at this group
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: event where they had the doctor there, the therapist his
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: name is slip in my brain and she said, you
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: are a revisionist historian me and the producer said, what
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the what fuck does that mean? And I literally google
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: that and I said, this bitch is so smart, and
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: all the other housewives was like dumbfounded, like wait, is
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: is that a read? You remind me so much of Kenya?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: And one thing that you are vocal about on Twitter.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Is you feel that because you and Kenya are dark
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: skinned women. Yes, people love to villainize the two of you.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: When y'all light skin counterparts can say the same thing,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: worse or worse, they don't get the same treatment. And
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: you really do say that a lot on Twitter. Can
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: you talk to me about that, please.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I have not experienced colorism in the way that I
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: have on this platform anywhere else in my life.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: And I grew up in predominantly white spaces. I have
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: been the.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Token black girl in a lot of rooms. And even
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: in those spaces, you know, you get the uh oh,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you're pretty to be a black girl, you get that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: But the colorism is nuanced, and it's often felt within
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: your own cohort, within your own community. And I guess
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: because I didn't have much of a community that looked
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: like me growing up, that wasn't something that I was
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: ever aware of or really made privy to until later
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: in life. And then even then, it still was just
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: never on my radar until this show. And you know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I am doing my job and cussing and fussing and
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: carrying on in a way that is similar to I'll
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: use Ashley as an example, because we're similar in age.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: They kind of put she brought me onto the show
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: expecting I think that we would, you know, have have
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: a report. And you know, Ashley is one who can
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: she can get bucks, she can roll her neck, she
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: her eyes can pop out of her head. She she'll
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you know, she gives you what needs to be given
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: in the moment. And I started to notice, knowing that
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Ashley had given us those moments, those aggressive moments, that
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: my time in giving those same moments were harped on
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: much more intensely. And I really had to take a
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: step back and say, what is it? Because at first
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: you just say what, like you're just you're just kind
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: of dumbfounded, but you're saying that I'm aggressive. But we
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: just watched her like get in her somebody's face and
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: do the finger and roll her neck and do all that.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: So it just dumbfounded me at first, but it was
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: It took me having conversations with my real smart friends,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: my off TV friends, to realize is what I was
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: experiencing was colorism, and it really there was a conversation
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: that we had, I believe, on a reunion where we
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: were asked by Andy, I think if we think the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: colorism exists on the show, and most of the women
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: said no, And I will say that I don't know
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: that the cast is necessarily engaging in it. Maybe there
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: is some dog whistling, but it certainly comes from the audience,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: and I think that the beneficiaries of colorism have a
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: responsibility to call that out. And I don't see that
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: happening myself. Wendy, you know we can't. We can scream
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: it all day, you know, it's it's it literally.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Is attached to racism.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: The oppressed cannot we can't speak out. We can, but
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the liberation and the change and the overturning comes when
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the people that have the power are speaking out against it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And to deny that colorism exists is doing a disservice
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: to all of us.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: No, and listen. One of the examples that I'll give
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: too is, you know one thing that Ashley and you
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: do is y'all can read for filth. And I am
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: a fan of the both of y'alls right, because I
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: think you guys are just fantastic reality stars and just
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: know how to like give great scenes. So, for example,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: you called Ashley wide body and got read for that. Meanwhile,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Ashley may fun of Sherie saggy titties but did not
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: get much of a scorn reading for that. I know
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: for a fact that colorism exists in the scope of
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: reality television, in the scope of the world, in the
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: scope of the music industry. It is what it is,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: and it doesn't take me, not being a black woman,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: to not see it. I see it, see it based
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: on Twitter, and I think that's the reason why a
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: lot of people stay off of Twitter who are on
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: reality TV, because it can definitely affect your mental help,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: knowing that people are really not equal in their disdain
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: for a person, place, or thing. And one of the
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: things that I know you dealt with with your mental
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: health was the unfortunate altercation that you and Monique had
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: on the show. And as a black man in this business,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and I shared this with Monique as well, I was
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: devastated by that only because look, I know that unfortunately
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: things just happen like these things happen, and that's just
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the way of life. We saw Will Smith slap Chris
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Rock on America's Favorite award stage and shit happens. Well,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: what I thought was funny was Will Packer, who's a
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: friend of mine and who I love. He produced that
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Oscar special. No one blamed Will Packer, and they shouldn't
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: have because he had nothing to do with it. But
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: when black people are having a bad moment on reality TV,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: they blame Carlos King, or they blame the other producers.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: And one of the things that I loved about your
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: conversation that you had on camera and off camera was
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the fact that everybody saw the error in their ways right,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and I thought it was so special to at least
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: have that honest conversation. How were you able to get
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: past that? Because I know that for some people it
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: would have been hard to return to the show.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I am past it because of
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the backlash that I received due to the acrobatics that
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: were orchestrated by some There are still people who I mean,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: the obviously are strong opinions about that season, But to
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: quote the ancient African proverb, revisionist history is a motherfucker.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: It's so easy to sit.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Back and watch and decide that you know what happened
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: in any space.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: And that's what reality television is for.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: It's an escape, and that's what I understand that my
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: role is in this space for a lot of our viewers.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: But when the game is not played by the rules,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and people who can't control their emotions want to get
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: out of control and change the way the game is played,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: it becomes less about entertainment and more about this is
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: my real life.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: And I.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Still have a lot of thoughts and feelings about the
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: revisionist history. I obviously don't let it, you know, overtake me,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and I think that God has prepared the most immaculate
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: table for me.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Before all of my enemies. Therefore, I have no need
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: to harp on whatever.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: However, it's not something that you just that just goes away.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: One of our SVPs who's a dear friend of mine,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: her name is Lorraine. She said in Not All Diamonds
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: and Rose that I forget how she said it, but
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: she she I talked to her at length for hours
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: upon hours during that whole season five, and she she
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: sort of accurately emoded for me when she said something
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: to the effect of I think Candice was blindsided and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: she was really hurt by the chain of events because
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: it's not something that she ever expected to happen, and
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: she really thought that she was dealing with someone who
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: she thought was her friend, and for her to put
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: that into words that it was just shock. Not so
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: and I talk about this on Girl's Trip too. Not
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: so much the physical part that wasn't the shock. The
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: shock was the spinning and the lying and the revisionist
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: history that still reverberates amongst people who are just committed
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: to misunderstanding me versus looking at facts and actually going
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: back and reviewing the edited season.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's an evolution that is still evolving.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Knowing that this happened a couple of years ago and
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Monique is no longer on the show. Is there a
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: world knowing that you're spiritual and like me, you're God
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: fearing and we love the Bible God talks about forgiveness.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Is there a world where you're able to forgive Monique
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: and or be friends with her again.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I think I have forgiven her for me, because that's
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: my salvation, that's at stake.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I have forgiven her for me. I think it's.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Impossible to move into a space of friendship with a
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: human being who continues to live in delusion and in
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: their version, in their revisionist history. This is someone who
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: has still goes into public spaces and calls me a child,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: when the child is the person who can't just let
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: it be, give it a no comment or you know,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: when these conversations come up, when these questions come up,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: it's about me. I'm not interested in insulting or creating
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: un necessary contention with a non factor in my life.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: And again, there's too much increase in my life for
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: me to go to that negative space. So you know,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the short answer is no, it just you. You can't.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: You can't rekindle something with someone who who isn't there.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: And I also just it's that's just not my portion.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just I don't need I don't need friends like that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: No, that's understandable. And you know, look, one thing we're
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: here to celebrate is the new season of Potomac. I
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: have set on record, and people like to throw me
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: shade for saying this because they think in order for
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: me to compliment somebody, I have to diss them in
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the same sentence. Like a lot of people, I'm just
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: gonna say it. A lot of people are surprised that
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I'm a huge Candice fan because I'm a Monique fan,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: and Monique's on my show. You know what I mean?
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Like I always tell people like, I am a black
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: man in this space, and I truly love everybody, and
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: people's beefs are not my beef. I'm not a female rapper.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get a do you know what I mean? Like,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not picking size in terms of
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: what people go through. Like, I love everybody, I love you.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I love Potomac. Potomac right Now is my favorite franchise.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Potomac right Now is the number one most entertaining Housewives
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: franchise in the world, and it has been for a
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: couple of years. I love this show so much. The
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: trailer came out and it's explosive and I'm looking forward
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: to it winning debut Sunday, October ninth, at eight o'clock
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: seven Central. In the trailer, we saw some issues going
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: on between Chris Bassett and Giselle Green Eye Bandit Bryant,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: where there's these accusations, if you will, that Chris has
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: been flirting with Gazelle. So I want to ask you,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: this is your husband Chris attracted to Gazel.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I you would have to ask him back, but I
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: mean I would say no, I know we did. We
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: had an event at Karen's house two years ago. It
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: was a couple's like date day, and one of the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: questions was if.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: You if you had to.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: If you had to sleep with somebody else in this
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: group or something, if you were if you had to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: date someone else in this group, something like that, who
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: would it be? And everyone answered except for Eddie because
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Wendy was given him the eyes period, right, And you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: for me, Chris said Gazelle. And I also guessed Gazelle
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: only because like the Gazelle is very flirty with Chris,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: and Chris flirts back with Gazelle. And this happens in
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: front of me, and it has never given me pause
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: or made me feel threatened in any kind of way
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: because Chris does not want Gizelle's fifty year old puss.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: He has no why would he want that when he
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: has this so and it also just kind of gave me, Okay,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: this is excess flirtatious energy coming from a woman who
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't have that at home.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: This is just something that she does.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Gazelle has a history and there's a reputation there of
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: her being fast in her past and her being loose
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: in her past.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: This is these are facts. I'm not making this up.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: So you know, I see her flirting with Chris and
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: is like, oh, pole than just poth thing, that's cute.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: It never bothered me.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: You said old thing, a poke thing po.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Po th that's it's it's just you. You can't.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: You can't ask for for more from from someone who
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: can only give you less than half like I can't.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: It never bothered me. So he may be she's a
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: beautiful woman I'm attracted to.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: She's a beautiful attracted.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, I agree.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Listen, she's beautiful.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: But a shell is a shell, okay, and shells often
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: have funky insides, and that's one.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Not fuck master flex. Okay, look what thing I can't
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: with you? What's interesting, though, is after you wrapped Potomac,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: you then went on Ultimate Girls Trip, y'all went to Thailand,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: and based on the cast, it seemed like it was
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: buddies from e franchise. Salt Lake City had Heather and Whitney,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Miami had Marathol on Instagram okay, and then it had
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Gazelle and Candice and we were all confused by that.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: So how was it on Ultimus Girls Trip? Because the
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: second installment was amazing. Derenda's house. It was it was
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: funny and dramatic, and it was everything. Did y'all live
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: up to the hype based on the fact that you
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: had to be with Jazelle for a couple, you know,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: for two weeks?
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I think yes.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Ten days of just unadulterated hell is what ensued in Thailand.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I was ready to go. These girls, just the the
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: girls as a whole wore me out. I was worn
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: thin just talking to no I'm I don't talk when
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: when I don't need to talk, like when it's if
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I don't have anything to say that it's of substance.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to sit back and clutch my pearls
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: and observe these girls. Some of them they just like
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: it was just I don't know if it was like
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: a we fighting for a camera time or you know,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: this is an accelerated version of housewives. We have ten
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: days to get what we need, so we're just we're
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: going hard in the paint. I don't know, but there
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: was so much talking that I just don't know that
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: needed to happen. I was surprised that Giselle and I
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: were chosen.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I was surprised that.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I always thought that when it was Potomac's turn to
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: do girl Strip, it would be Gizelle and Karen because
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: that's who the network pushes as the faces of the
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: of the show.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's the that's that's what they pushed.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: So I was fully expecting Gazelle and Karen. So it
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: was me and I was like, well, sure, I will
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: pack my bags. I'm there, Gizelle and I I'll just
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: say it did not end well.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: It did not end well.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: And yeah and yeah, didn't end well.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: M hm, Okay, Well, how did it begin with Porsche?
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Because you and Porsche have publicly said things about each
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: other that a lot of people took its shade. Yes,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: when they found out Porsche, Williams and Candace was in
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: the same room, the Twitter girls went crazy. Yeah, how
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: did it go with Porsche?
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: You be surprised? And that in good ways and bad ways.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: It was a very interesting time with Porsche that I
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: don't want to give it anything away, but it was.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: It was an interesting time with with Porscha. She is
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: something else, but so am I.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, we know you are sister, because I was gonna
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: say that. That goes my question Porsche is a shady
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: queen and we love Porsche. You are shady queen. Answered
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: this for me. Oh lord, who did you get into
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: it the most on girls trip besides Giselle?
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: Oh I really, I was really chilling on this trip
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: because these white girls were hollering the whole trip, So
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: I was just I was kind of like it, taking
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: my my leizipam and trying.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: To just stay home.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: But I okay, if I had to say, who did
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I fuss with more than Gizelle, it was Okay, it
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: wasn't the snow bunnies, it wasn't It wasn't.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Probably Portia.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we if I had to say more than Jesel,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Giselle was.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: The most. But yes, probably if I had to say,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: but that.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: But again, I say it was an interesting time because.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: It ebbed and flowed.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: There was a lot that went on like it was
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: ten days, but it felt like ten months. There was
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of evolution and stopping and going and fussing
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: and carrying on that took place. So yes, yeah, I'm
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: trying to make sure I'm not missing anyone.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think you are, because that I think that's
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I don't see you get into with the other girls
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: like that, what about Leah?
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: That Leah is my bitch, That is my girl. That's Leah.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: So Leah and the snow bunnies they were my favorite, Like.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: I can't take snow bunnies.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: That's what I call.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: And then we played a really fun game where everybody
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: got like I don't want to give away too much,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: but we played a really fun game where I really
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: got to express my thoughts on everybody and some people
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: were happy and some were not, and I was tickled.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: That's all I will say about that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Love it, Okay, So before I let you go talk
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: to my raindrops about what they can't expect from this
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: season of Potomac and Baby, I mean one thing about me,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: and I don't care how far getting in life in
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: my career, I will always be a fan because you
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: always want to keep that inno sense about you. I
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: am a giddy girl when it comes to Potomac. I
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: watch it and I laughed my ass off, and I
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: literally love all of you, ladies. I got a chance
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: to meet some of the girls when I was in
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: town at this house and Kandace wasn't there, and Wendy
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: wasn't there, and I was mad like, I low key
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: also want to see Kansas and Wendy the Fox, but
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: whenever I digress, we'll see each other pace of pays
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: so soon. Yes, yes, but talk to us about what
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: we can expect from my favorite Housewise franchise.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: This season, for a lot of reasons, I think is
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: maybe one of our best. And I know it's easy
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: to say that, but this is probably one of our
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: best seasons because everyone gave something. And I also love
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: when a season gets to the end and nothing.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Has been spilled.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Atlanta is kind of has gotten really bad about that,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: like stuff leaking, and you're finding out storylines and things
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: that are happening amongst the group before the season airs,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and it just ruins the experience for the viewers.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Not a whole lot.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Got out about this, you know, the little altercation between
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: me and Wendy kind of got out. Side note, I
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: was from shooting my scripted series, so I got to
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: the trip late. I'm mid air and I'm getting texts
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: from my manager telling me, were you in a fight?
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: And I'm like what these people will sat.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Up here on Beyonce's Internet and trying to.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Say that I got into the fight with Mia, that
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: it was me and I'm literally in the air, so
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: that that got out.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: But you don't know what happened.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Let me, let me make it clear, you don't know
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: what happened even with what you see in the trailer.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: You need to see the whole thing.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: But we I think everyone gave something personal within the group.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: The dynamics shift so quickly.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: This is I think this is the fastest we have
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: moved in this group, just like the ebbs and flows
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: within the couples and the throttles, and you know, the
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: six seven of us are our friend of the show,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Jacqueline that then came in there and.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Hould our wigs off. She was doing three much.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: It was so intense, not too much, but three much,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: three much.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: It was so intense.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: So it's you are going to be entertained because you're
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: not going.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: To be able to keep up.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: You you have to really stay on your toes and
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: take notes for season seven. Not to shade other franchises,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: but sometimes things can drag on and carry on and
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: you just never hear the end of the things. Honey.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Season seven, it's like boom boom, boom boom, what's next.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: We're friends now, We're not we're cool. Now we're not,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: we're you know, cussing, and now we're in the bed together.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: It's like it's it is so fast paced even I
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: can keep up.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: And I was in the mess.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: No, I loved I love it. I love it. And
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I have to ask this. Though you ladies were the
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: dark horse, You ladies, to me, were the step children
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: of the franchise. Do you, ladies, And I'm being serious
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: when I ask you this question because I want reality
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: stars too. Are fans of this podcast to hear this?
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Please hear this. When I watch Potomac, I feel like
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: all of you ladies said we need to be the
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: best show possible, and we're going to work together to
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: be number one. Not scripting stuff or having fake beef,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: but like we're all going to put in the work.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: The kids like to call it clocked in. Like I
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: feel like you ladies had a meeting and said we
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: need to clock in and be number one because every
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: season is so damn good.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Did you guys have this camaraderie and this sort of
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: pact that we are going to give everything to this
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: show to become number one?
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: I think it's unspoken. I have never been a part of.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: A group, a full group meeting where we had those conversations,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: but I've had them in twos and threes with some
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: of the girls just about you know, how we really
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: care and we are very aware and privy.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Of what our role is and how.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: We sort of carry the torch for black women in
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: this space, and we all take that very seriously. And
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: that's one of the things that I respect about my
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: cast so much is that we protect our brands, we
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: protect the way that we are portrayed, and we take
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: that very seriously, you know, give or take a few
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: that may not be here anymore. So it's I think
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: we all are intelligent enough to know when it's time
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: to clock in and when maybe we need to sit
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: back and allow, you know, others to step in. That's
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: that was one difference between my cast and Girl Strip.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: I'm used to being in a group where we allow.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Each other to speak because we're thinking about the audio
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: guy and how they're gonna have to turn this one
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: down so.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: That you can hear this one talk.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: So we are very aware of Okay, let's let you know,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Robin have this.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Moment to explain what she's saying, and then.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Karen will jump in and cuss her into smithereens She's
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: gonna let Robin say what she has to say, because
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: you all need to understand what we're saying, to follow
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: our stories and to care about you know, what we're
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: bringing you and girls today was just yelling and screaming.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: It was my wig slit off and I had brains,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: So you know, I just I think that we are
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: all incredibly intelligent, savvy, smart women and we know how
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: to maneuver.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: And it's there are a lot of.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Just unspoken things that just fall all into place in
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: the heat of moments and it just works. We are
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: because we all have leadership spirit like we all we
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: all have that leadership capacity, so everybody knows how to
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: police themselves and I think that contributes heavily to our success.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: And I always give flowers to the ogs.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: This I want to say, this is Is this not
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: the most ogs at this point in a s Yeah,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: that that's that's not a small feat.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: The Real Housewives hopotomac has the is making history in
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: terms of having the most OG's return for a consecutive
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: seventh season, which is Giselle, Robin, Ashley, and Karen. That
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: has never been done in the history of the franchise.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: And that's why you guys are great, and that's no
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: shame to do the Housewives franchise. We love them all.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: And one thing I love about you particularly you always
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: give a land to their flowers and all day, every ing.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will continue to say it because I
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: same lo the comparisons. We are not the same, and
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing, and we would not be if
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: it were not for the.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: Path that they laid. The tweet.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I see it all the time. Atlanta walp So Potomac
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: could run. I will say it until I have no breath.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I was a studier and a watcher and someone who
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: just respected immensely what this ensemble cast of powerful, entertaining
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: as hell black women were able to do for reality TV.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Bravo would not be where Bravo is without Atlanta.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Carlos King would not be the king of reality television
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: with Atlanta. And I will always give a Lanta to
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: their flowers. And look, I know a lot of people
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: are just shaded Atlanta about not being at its best,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: and listen, I'm very honest about my feelings about the
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: way the show has been the past couple of seasons,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: but make no mistake, it will always be the greatest
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: reality show of all time. And because of Atlanta Housewives,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: all of us get to eat at the table in
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: which they prepared. So let's make that very clear. So
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: thank you can this for saying that I can talk
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: to you all day. I'm gonna I know I'm gonna
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: see you soon though, so we'll be good. But yeah,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: let the girls know where they can follow you, support
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: your burgeoning music career and everything else.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, I am going on tour starting October nineteenth. There
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: are still tickets available, I think in every city. DC
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: is almost sold out, Chicago's almost sold out.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: So I'm doing.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: DC, Chicago, Atlanta, Nashville, and Philly. So you can get
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  Speaker 1: just had a series of rehearsals last week or in
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  Speaker 1: the last two days. This tour is going to be amazing.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: My band is the Bomb. I have a full band,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: So we're giving you music, We're giving you vibes, We're
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: giving you choreography.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: I have dancers, we have.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Smoke, we have diva fans, honey, we have costume changes, we.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Have wigs, So get it. And vocals. The most important
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: thing we have vocals.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: The mic is on, Mike will be on.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: I promise you that. So get your tickets, uh to
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the city Winery tour. We get on our bus going
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  Speaker 1: across the country. Honey, it's gonna it'snna be a time
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  Speaker 1: to check that out.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: I know you lie. Was this good? The dad? Y oh? No? Come,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: don't play with it. I am y'all, don't get I'm
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: a fan. I did a video, but I never even
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: met this girl. And when your first single came out,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: I see you. Yes, I did a video on Instagram
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: in my drop top ports period and was like singing,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: I love for music.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: Remember that.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know this is real. Like I am a
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: candy girl fan. I love you. Thank you for blessing
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: this podcast, and I.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Will see you soon, very soon, Darling.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: I literally can talk to Candace all day long. I
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: have to like stop myself from interviewing her because we
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: would have had a week's worth interview. She is so fun,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: so spicy and all jump aside. I really hope all
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: of you got a chance to learn a little bit
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: more about Candace, because I don't think she's treated fairly
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: on social media. I just don't. I think she gets
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: a bad hand and a bad rap, and I'm hoping
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: that listening to her talk about her life, her career,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: and just her spirituality open up your eyes to see
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: why I really do think she truly is going to
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: be one of the greatest housewives of all time. Candace
• 57:59
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