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Padres Win, PJ Fleck, and NFL Playoff Picture · Not So Fast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz,
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  Speaker 1: where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest
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  Speaker 1: sports stories.
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  Speaker 2: Of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz. Not
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  Speaker 2: so fast, my friends. Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Paps.
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  Speaker 3: We are in full playoff mode once again, ready to go.
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  Speaker 3: Nine strong innings.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, four games today, starting in Chicago Southside with the
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  Speaker 4: White Sox, ending late night with the Padres. Those guys
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  Speaker 4: are out. We've got to go to a Padres game sometime.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 4: Coming up later on today's show, P.J. Fleck of the
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  Speaker 4: Minnesota Golden Gophers.
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  Speaker 2: Love that. Oh, that's exciting. All right, let's start with
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  Speaker 2: the Dodgers last night. Beat the Braves 3-1. Paul, I
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  Speaker 2: hate to ask this because there are a lot of
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  Speaker 2: teams alive.
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  Speaker 3: Are the Dodgers inevitable right now?
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  Speaker 2: Are they going to go for a three-peat or is
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  Speaker 2: it still TBD?
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  Speaker 4: I would say inevitable year to year. They always are
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  Speaker 4: going to be in the playoffs, but last year they
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  Speaker 4: came this close to losing the World Series. It does
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  Speaker 4: feel like the odds are against you because they have
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  Speaker 4: so many people who could beat you. Quique Hernandez doesn't
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  Speaker 4: play all season and he hits a home run. Freddie Freeman,
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  Speaker 4: there he goes right there. He's due for one. They
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  Speaker 4: have so many guys. Mookie Betts can get hot. Otani's
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  Speaker 4: not even playing that well. If he somehow gets healthy,
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  Speaker 4: he's the best hitter in the game when he's healthy.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: They move Otani down in the lineup and it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: really even kill them. It's interesting to me because all
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  Speaker 3: these players have been there. I don't know what experience
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  Speaker 3: means in baseball. But the Dodgers, it's not like their
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  Speaker 3: Georgia football is right now where they're just rolling everyone.
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  Speaker 3: They've been in must-win situations. They were down to the
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  Speaker 3: blue year to year.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that.
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  Speaker 3: Experience is a big deal because it's not like they
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  Speaker 3: can out-talent everyone. Their best player, Shohei, is not doing
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  Speaker 3: anything for them, but their pitcher.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think the longer the series gets, the more
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  Speaker 4: it works for them because the analytics, the odds would
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  Speaker 4: say the talent's going to work out. I do want
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  Speaker 4: to give Yamamoto the pitcher for the Dodgers credit. Last
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  Speaker 4: year in the postseason, he had two complete games. Do
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  Speaker 4: you know how many complete games in the postseason are
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  Speaker 4: like an eclipse? Last night he went seven innings, ten strikeouts,
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  Speaker 4: and I was watching the postgame coverage on MLB Network,
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  Speaker 4: and they're like, do you know what seven innings by
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  Speaker 4: a starter does for the rest of the team? It
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  Speaker 4: allows the bullpen to get an extra day's rest. It
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  Speaker 4: allows you to pull your next day pitcher earlier. And
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  Speaker 4: he really is this complete wild card. He's a luxury
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  Speaker 4: at him. He led the majors this year with one
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  Speaker 4: complete game. One complete game led the majors. But he's also,
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  Speaker 4: I don't understand him because he's 5'10, 175. He throws
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  Speaker 4: in the mid to high 90s. Why can't more guys
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  Speaker 4: do what this guy does?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, easier said than done. He's a
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  Speaker 2: total outlier.
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  Speaker 3: Though, because everybody else is going the exact opposite direction,
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  Speaker 3: where they're pitching guys less and their starters.
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  Speaker 2: Don't go any innings. You know, I was arguing with
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  Speaker 2: the guys in the back about this. They love this.
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  Speaker 3: They love this, but Yamamoto is an exception. He is
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  Speaker 3: not the rule. I think the trend is to go
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  Speaker 3: to bullpen. That's why he's so unique.
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  Speaker 4: But why can't a big power pitcher go seven, eight,
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  Speaker 4: nine innings, but a guy who looks like an accountant...
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  Speaker 4: who looks like Mariano Rivera or looks like Pedro Martinez
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  Speaker 4: on the mound, not physically imposing, does not throw 103,
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  Speaker 4: he could just cruise to innings 7 and 8.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Pedro Martinez on the DP show said something interesting
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  Speaker 3: the other day. He said it's not strength, it's flexibility.
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  Speaker 3: He said flexibility is a big part of this.
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  Speaker 4: So by being less jacked, you're more springy and loose.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there are very few gigantic, strong pitchers you
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  Speaker 3: can last nine innings.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, why do you think I didn't play high-level baseball?
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  Speaker 2: He said that he's gone.
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  Speaker 4: Among the reasons. Yeah, of course it is. Chris Sale,
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  Speaker 4: seven hits, three earned runs, not the best outing by him.
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  Speaker 4: He did fool Otani pretty good on our strike.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, that wasn't so bad. It was
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  Speaker 2: a 3-1 game.
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  Speaker 3: The problem with the Braves is they're supposed to have
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  Speaker 3: to win the Sale game because they don't really have
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  Speaker 3: much else in their pitching rotation. But Sale is awesome, too.
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  Speaker 3: There's another skinny guy who can just throw flames.
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  Speaker 4: Now, he hasn't done great in the postseason. He's gotten
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  Speaker 4: touched early in both games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. By the way, and Freeman... How.
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  Speaker 3: Many playoff games has Freddie Freeman played? I feel like
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  Speaker 3: I've been watching him in the postseason since I was
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  Speaker 3: a kid.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Freddie Freeman. Remember that whole tussle, was he
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  Speaker 4: going to lead the Braves for the Dodgers? It almost,
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  Speaker 4: you don't remember him as a Brave, even though he
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  Speaker 4: had great years.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, back to the original question, though. There's
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  Speaker 3: so many great series going on right now. I do
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  Speaker 3: feel like the Dodgers championship to lose, you never know
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  Speaker 3: what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: At 1-1, I gave Atlanta a chance. Now, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: And weirdly, I like that Otani's not pitching. He's more
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  Speaker 4: trying to get healthy for the run. And maybe he
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  Speaker 4: gets healthier along the way. All right, let's get to it.
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  Speaker 4: Padres versus Brewers, 4-3 Padres over the Brewers. Milwaukee is
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  Speaker 4: still up 2-1 in the series. That was a great game.
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  Speaker 4: It felt like an SEC football game from the first pitch.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's like a 10th man for them. The crowd
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  Speaker 3: is just so wild. And this series really seems to
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  Speaker 3: be defined by the home field because Milwaukee's not great
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  Speaker 3: on the road, and the Padres just were lifted by the.
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  Speaker 2: San Diego crowd.
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  Speaker 4: And they needed it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the San Diego crowds are supposed to be
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  Speaker 3: laid back. There was nothing laid back about this group.
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  Speaker 4: And the Brewers got hits. The Brewers had 11 hits tonight.
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  Speaker 4: But they left 11 on base. That's going to kill you.
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  Speaker 4: The error right there puts another run in. And that
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  Speaker 4: was big late in the game because their pitchers were
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  Speaker 4: doing a good job. The big story in this game,
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  Speaker 4: and we'll talk more about it later, is Mason Miller,
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  Speaker 4: the ace, paternity leave. It breaks just an hour before
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  Speaker 4: the game. I saw it on Twitter. I thought it
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  Speaker 4: was a joke.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was a hack. Did you think it
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  Speaker 4: was real?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't trust anything on the Internet anymore.
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  Speaker 3: But that I.
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  Speaker 2: Trusted because he's about the age to have kids. Man,
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  Speaker 2: it's a tough call.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to put myself in his shoes.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do this later.
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  Speaker 4: In warm takes, we're going to flesh this one out.
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  Speaker 4: What would you do if you're Mason Miller? But the
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  Speaker 4: big news is Michael King, their ace, who doesn't get
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  Speaker 4: half the national run that Mason Miller gets, he's a
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  Speaker 4: fantastic player. He told his coach before the game, his
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  Speaker 4: manager before the game, that I'm ready to go. He
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  Speaker 4: pitched two scoreless, and Michael King is the breakout star.
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  Speaker 4: if you can call a guy who's already an ace
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  Speaker 4: a breakout star.
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  Speaker 2: Well, a breakout star, except they have to win the series.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, I still think Milwaukee has a
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  Speaker 3: gigantic advantage in this series.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, he's a breakout star for now.
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  Speaker 3: It just feels, I don't know why, it feels like
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  Speaker 3: Milwaukee still has a big edge because they could have
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  Speaker 3: won last night.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, elimination game again tonight, 6 o'clock Eastern with that battle.
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  Speaker 4: But that's another game. I do want to talk about this.
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  Speaker 4: The crowds at some of these games, the Brewers games,
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  Speaker 4: the Padres games, they have a football feel, and they
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  Speaker 4: do it early. Some places, no names. The fans ease
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  Speaker 4: in or show up a little late in all sports,
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  Speaker 4: in all games.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's no mystery that Braves fans are not
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  Speaker 3: really making a huge impact this postseason.
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  Speaker 2: They're not even showing up. What do you expect White Sox? Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: this is... They're not used to it. It feels like
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be mayhem.
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  Speaker 4: Not a lot of home playoff games for the White
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  Speaker 4: Sox over the past decade, but they've got it on
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  Speaker 4: a tee. They've won four in a row on the road.
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  Speaker 4: They've got it coming their way today. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if the Pope's going to be there. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if President Obama's going to be there. They're all invited.
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  Speaker 2: I have to bring back the stat from yesterday, the
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  Speaker 2: last time they clinched at home. 05? Yeah, it was 06.
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  Speaker 2: But 1906!
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  Speaker 4: Not a lot of great days for that. NFL has
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  Speaker 4: a couple days off, no MAAC football tonight, but we
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  Speaker 4: did have some NFL news yesterday. Lane Johnson, you mentioned
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  Speaker 4: this right before we exited the show yesterday, that Lane
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  Speaker 4: Johnson was Not playing the other day because of mental illness,
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  Speaker 4: personal issues. What was going on there?
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  Speaker 3: Well, he jumped out of the game at the last
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  Speaker 3: minute for personal reasons.
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  Speaker 4: Last weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Brandon Graham, former Eagle great, said that he
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  Speaker 3: heard that Lane Johnson was going to retire. Now, Lane
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  Speaker 3: Johnson announced this summer this would be his last season.
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  Speaker 3: He has apparently a lot going on. There's reports about
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  Speaker 3: his parents are aging, and he has talked about mental
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  Speaker 3: health a lot in his career. Plus, he's an older player,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of wear and tear. You know, tush pushing
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  Speaker 3: is not easy on anyone. And he's had health problems.
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  Speaker 3: This is a huge blow to the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: Lane Johnson, Hall of Famer, all that's good. Put that aside.
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  Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Eagles season is going to be shaped by this.
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  Speaker 3: They are a different team when he's out there. The
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  Speaker 3: number is stunning. 122-63 with him, 18-30 without him. But
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  Speaker 3: here's another stat. EPA, expected output per play. They are
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  Speaker 3: third best in the NFL when Lane Johnson's on the field.
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  Speaker 3: They are 28th best when he's not since 2013. He's
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  Speaker 3: allowed four sacks since 2020. Four sacks, Paul.
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  Speaker 2: He's allowed zero sacks the last three seasons.
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  Speaker 4: Look at this graphic. 122 and 63 with, 18 and
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  Speaker 4: 30 without. That is not a coincidence. He has been
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  Speaker 4: the sure thing the past decade there. Like we talked about,
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  Speaker 4: you have Fletcher Cox. You have different players that come
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  Speaker 4: and go on that team. He's always healthy. He's always
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  Speaker 4: been there until the past year and a half. Clearly,
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  Speaker 4: he's having some issues going through them, but rarely does
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  Speaker 4: the team have this happen. You have injuries during the
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  Speaker 4: season where you have to replace someone. You kind of
• 8:22
  Speaker 4: come out of nowhere. But replacing a star, truly a
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  Speaker 4: star offensive tackle, you can't do it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they drafted a guy in the third round, Markel Bell,
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  Speaker 3: who's gigantic. He's just like Lane Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: He's 6'9. So they're going to get a look at
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  Speaker 2: him and see if he's the answer.
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  Speaker 3: Here's my question. I'll take it another step. Are they
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  Speaker 3: going to start trading at the trade deadline?
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  Speaker 4: They might have to because if you look at the Eagles,
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  Speaker 4: the last two weeks they've had bad losses. They lost
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  Speaker 4: to Case Keenum.
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  Speaker 2: No offense.
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  Speaker 4: You shouldn't lose to third-string quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: Not if you don't have anybody. Nobody's healthy on the Eagles. Right.
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  Speaker 4: And then last week, up 10, fourth quarter against the Rams.
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  Speaker 4: That was going to be the right-to-ship win. And by
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  Speaker 4: losing at the end, it made it feel worse. Didn't
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  Speaker 4: you say Hertz had 93 yards passing the other day?
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  Speaker 2: He was terrible.
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  Speaker 5: Terrible.
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  Speaker 2: He would not let go of the ball. Zero for
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  Speaker 2: 12 on third down. Honestly, people are talking about a
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  Speaker 2: lot of who would be gone midseason.
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  Speaker 3: I tell you right now, Saquon Barkley's future with the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles is not much because he's about to turn 30,
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  Speaker 3: and they're not going anywhere this year.
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  Speaker 2: Without Lane Johnson, where are they going this year?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I know what you're saying. The fans would absolutely
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  Speaker 4: tear the place down if they traded Saquon Barkley.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think they will.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't think you're warm-taking there. I think you're
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  Speaker 4: saying if this is a lost season. This is the
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  Speaker 4: last year of Saquon's contract or second to last year?
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  Speaker 2: Well, even if it's not his last year, they could
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  Speaker 2: move on. There's nothing safe.
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  Speaker 3: They really need a rebuild. Now, Howie Roseman, the GM,
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  Speaker 3: has never had a full rebuild. He's always tried to retool.
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  Speaker 3: But Lane Johnson seems like he's one of those players
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  Speaker 3: where if you pull him out, the whole Jenga puzzle falls.
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  Speaker 3: I am so down on the Eagles because everybody else
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  Speaker 3: is hurt. They have six starters that are going to
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  Speaker 3: be out for this upcoming game.
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  Speaker 4: You know how it plays locally. Nick Sirianni seems on
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  Speaker 4: a perpetual hot seat, even though he won a Super
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  Speaker 4: Bowl there. If somehow they don't make the playoffs, the
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  Speaker 4: fallout is major, minor?
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  Speaker 3: Major for Nick Sirianni. I mean, he has all these
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  Speaker 3: people in the media. who have issues with him. I
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  Speaker 3: think he could be in big trouble. Or, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but he's been in big trouble in the past and
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  Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: But a couple years ago, he fired both coordinators when
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  Speaker 4: he was in big trouble. You only get to do
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  Speaker 4: that once, usually, as a head coach.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the problem is all his coordinators keep leaving. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm playing chess while everyone's playing checkers. Kellen Moore gets
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  Speaker 3: fired in New Orleans, comes back. Nick Sirianni and Kellen
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  Speaker 3: Moore reunited. They won a Super Bowl. That's the plan
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  Speaker 3: if I'm an Eagles fan. Sean Mannion, our buddy, is
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  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. Without Lane Johnson on the field, Sean Mannion
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  Speaker 3: has a tough job. They're not going to be able
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  Speaker 3: to run the ball. They're not going to be able
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  Speaker 3: to protect the Hurts.
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  Speaker 4: Zach Bonds hurt. I mean, you could go down the list.
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  Speaker 4: These are serious players.
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  Speaker 2: Saquon Turk. I mean, it's bad.
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  Speaker 3: So this was a Super Bowl pick by a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people. And that's why it's so hard to predict
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  Speaker 3: football because of injuries.
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  Speaker 4: All right, before we go to break, some news on
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  Speaker 4: the Dan Patrick Show about a half an hour ago.
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: Odell Beckham Jr., no longer a Giant, picked up short
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  Speaker 4: notice by the Vikings. Your thoughts, your reaction when you
• 10:54
  Speaker 4: heard that about the Vikings?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if this is a long-term of anything. Patchwork?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and also I watched Odell a little bit in preseason.
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  Speaker 3: He looks fine, but older wide receivers, it is not
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  Speaker 3: a kind league for them.
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  Speaker 4: You only need 10 weeks out of him. And this
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  Speaker 4: has happened before. I know he's old. I know the
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  Speaker 4: Giants didn't use him. If the Giants can't, why could
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  Speaker 4: the Vikings? But maybe the Vikings are thinking, hey, let's
• 11:14
  Speaker 4: try anything we can. We find ourselves at 4-0.
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  Speaker 2: I'll do it over under seven catches for the Vikings.
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  Speaker 4: Seven catches for his Viking career?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I would be shocked if he went
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  Speaker 2: over that.
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  Speaker 4: I'll set that over another six and a half and
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  Speaker 4: take that with you.
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  Speaker 2: All right, meanwhile, let's look at the NBC schedule. It's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: 100% no. The best-looking duo? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we're one of two duos. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we definitely are. Look at the hair there. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up next, warm takes. Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 3: I have something negative to say about the Chicago White Sox,
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  Speaker 3: and I really had to stretch to do that.
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  Speaker 2: And the worst single move of the NFL offseason. That's next.
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  Speaker 2: Not so fast.
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  Speaker 4: These are some scalding takes you're teasing here. Anti-White Sox.
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  Speaker 4: That's gutsy right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Sorry, Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: Bingo.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it looks like it's going yard.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it looks like it's gone ball. That's gone.
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  Speaker 4: That is not so fast.
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  Speaker 2: What a play.
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  Speaker 4: He even showed it to the bullpen. Mauricio Dubon. If
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  Speaker 4: you're a Braves fan, that was a feel-good moment. Didn't
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  Speaker 4: work out so well, but that was pretty awesome.
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: That's my favorite play in sports, robbing a home run.
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: I used to, as a kid, I used to jump
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: over my backyard fence all the time and rob.
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: Did you catch your ribs on the metal stuff?
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I went all out.
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: Would you rather rob a home run to win a
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: World Series than hit a home run? That's obvious because
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's ever been done, right?
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: I would want to hit a home run. Just that
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: walk or run around the bases would be amazing.
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: It's almost like LeBron blocking the shot to win the title.
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: No, the odds of that happening are slim. I just
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: want to hit one major league home run, Paul. Can
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: you make that happen?
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you can make that happen. All right,
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: it's time for warm takes.
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: Let's get it going.
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: You've got some hot ones coming. I'm going to go
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: warm early.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: Quique Hernandez of the Dodgers. Yeah, Mr. October-ish. This guy,
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: out of nowhere. Was he in bubble wrap all year?
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: He hit the home run for the Dodgers last night.
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: You're like, oh, there's Quique Hernandez. Of course I know him.
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: I see him every October. He hit the home run
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: off Chris Sale. He has a unique but fantastic reputation.
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: He's a solid player during the regular season. In 13 seasons,
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: he's never been an all-star in 13 years. He's a
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: career 235 hitter. That's not so good. He doesn't even
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: play that much. He played 90 games this season. But
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: in the postseason, he's unbelievable. He's a 275 hitter for
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: his career in the postseason. 17 of his career home
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: runs come in the postseason. That's more than 10%. He's
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: the only guy in baseball history to have more than 10%
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: of his career home runs in the postseason. That's a
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: nutty ratio. He's not going to the Hall of Fame.
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: He's going to the Dodgers Ring of Honor. I don't
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: even know if they have one out there. But he'll
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: be remembered forever because he's part of three or maybe
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: four World Series with the Dodgers. It's a weird career.
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: I think the comp, maybe, Andrew, is like a Robert Ori.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: Robert Ori was a very good player early in his career,
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: probably better than Kike Hernandez. But then became a bench guy,
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: a role guy, but a high-end role guy. And then
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: he played for a bunch of different teams. Lakers, San Antonio,
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: hit big shots. Big shot Bob. And he's one of
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: those guys who's never going to the Hall of Fame,
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: Robert Ory. Maybe he should because he has seven titles.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: Kiki Hernandez, doesn't matter. If he's hitting. 205 during the
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: regular season, I'm keeping him on the roster. He could
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: be like Udonis Haslam. He could be a Dodger for life.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: You could stay home. You could work from home. You
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: could work online. You could just watch the games. But
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: in October, Kike Hernandez is fantastic. What a reputation to have.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at his all-time stats on the list.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: He's right there with guys like Mickey Mantle, Reggie Jackson,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: Kike Hernandez. Obviously, with the expanded playoffs, you see a
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: lot of that. But it's really remarkable. Nobody has less
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: in the regular season and more in the postseason.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: And he's one of those guys he seems to keep
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: cool every year. Every year we see him for the
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: Dodgers doing this. He beats a lot of teams. And
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: he's the kind of guy like, oh, I don't want
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: to face him. I'd rather face this guy than him.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: All right. I'm going to stay in baseball for my
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: warm take. Let's go to the Chicago White Sox.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, boy.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Feel good story around Major League Baseball. They're ruining baseball, Paul.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Not for the reason you might think. They're great for baseball,
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: obviously going from worst record to possibly the ALCS or
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: even further this year. Incredible story. Except the way they're
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: doing it could be a problem. They are the ultimate
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: bullpen team. Everyone's going opener in the postseason, but they're
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: taking it to a new level. They use an opener
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: or bullpen game 31 times in 2026, the most in MLB.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: In September, they went 21 consecutive games without going six innings.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: And obviously in the playoffs, they're turning the dial even more.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: I heard this theory out there that teams are gonna
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: start to build bullpen rotations Barely using starters at all.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: So they go three innings, three innings, three innings, hopefully,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: maybe with a.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Closer at the end.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: That way the hitters don't get to see the pitchers
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: a second time and their arms are fresh. They can
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: go 100 miles an hour. This will lower ERAs. And
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now, look at the White Sox
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: 1-6-7 ERA.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: It is going to be a disadvantage to hitters if
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: you have starters going to the bullpen like Chicago is
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: doing it. And I think this is not just a
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: postseason trend. I think teams are going to start to
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: build their teams this way, Paul. You can save some money.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: You're not spending $ 30- something million on Tyler Glass now. You
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: can now have a lot of starters, draft a lot
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: of starters, move them to the bullpen, three or four innings,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: and hitters are going to struggle. I think this could
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: be a big trend.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Well, I think you're 100% right, and you nailed it
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: at the end. I think this is financial. The White
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Sox cannot spend... like the Cubs, like the Yankees, like
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: the Dodgers. And they don't try to. A couple years ago,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: they had an ace named Eric Crochet. They let him go.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: They're like, we can't pay him. We're not going to
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: pay him $ 200 million. So they're going to patchwork this.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: And I think the Sox are going to do this
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: for the near future. It's working for them. It got
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: them through one series. It might get them through a
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: second series.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: It's working for everybody.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: And if I'm the Pirates and I have Paul Skeens,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: am I going to pay Paul Skeens $ 300 million? Or
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: I'm going to trade him and build my bullpen up
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: and see if I could patchwork a game together with
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: closers and starters.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they have a guy who has actually started, but
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: is an opener, Hagan Smith, who is the number five
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: overall pick in the draft. And they're using him as
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: a bullpen arm. I think that is the new trend.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: And the Phillies did it with Andrew Payton, a very
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: high pick. Now he's a three- or four-inning guy.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: This works.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: And if the Sox ever have a guy who becomes
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: their next ace and next star, like Hagan Smith in
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: two years— If he wins 20, they're not going to
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: keep him. They won't be able to do it. They'll
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: trade him to the Dodgers. They'll trade him to the
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Red Sox.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Or intentionally, they don't let him go eight innings.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: They keep him in the three or four inning role
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: and keeps his salary down, at least for now.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: You know, the comp there, if you want to comp
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: this out to the NFL, it's like having two running backs.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: And we don't pay either. If you have Montgomery and Gibbs, well,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: once you pay Gibbs, you can't have Montgomery anymore if
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: you're the Lions. A lot of these teams have that
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: patchwork backfield because they don't ever want to spend.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Well, I had another comp, and maybe I'm going too
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: far with this. I think it's like cover two in NFL.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Too high safety. All of a sudden, Offenses can't have
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: explosive plays. Now, I think a lot of teams are
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: used to seeing a pitcher four times and seeing his
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: velocity dip down a little bit. So you get to
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: the starting pitcher in the fourth, fifth, sixth inning, and
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: it's home run time.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Now, that's going to go away.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of hitters are going to wish
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: that they could see the starter go longer because if
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: you get a fresh arm and he's throwing 99, 100, 101,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: you're like, oh, okay. And all of a sudden, you
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: get a good lefty-lefty matchup. There are a lot of
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: advantages if teams can build a full staff that can
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: come out of the bullpen, start, whatever, flexibility.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: We just comped the White Sox to Jameer Gibbs in
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: the backfield of the Lions and to cover two defenses.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Take that, NFL Live. All right, next up, here's my
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: hot take. Okay, warm take. The Padres star closer, Mason Miller.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I think everyone knows what happened last night. He missed
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: the game three, vital game three, at home, down two.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: About an hour before the game, a tweet goes out
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: for a few reporters that Mason Miller's wife is in labor.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Sooner than expected. We don't know all the details. We
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: don't need to know all the details. He went to
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: the hospital to be with his wife as she's having
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: their first baby. So good for him. Do whatever you think, Mason.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Don't care. Glad you did it. Whatever. I'm glad this
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: worked out. I'm glad Michael King came in and got
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: the clothes to get the win. Because if this didn't
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: work out and the bullpen got torched, it would be
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: a much bigger story. And Mason Miller would be getting
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: heat for a long time from people who are maybe
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: not so understanding. I have a different take on this,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: and we'll get to it in a second, but A
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: few things. If you're going to miss a playoff game
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: to be with your wife or you don't want to
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: miss the playoff game, she has to suggest it to you.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: She has to say, Mason, go. Go throw 105. Go
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: throw gas. I'll be here. Are you sure? You've got
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: to ask four or five times. Are you sure you
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: want me to go?
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I'll go.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Like Rocky 2. Go win. But the other thing is,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: if you miss the birth of your child to be
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: at the playoff game, you've got to make sure you
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: get in the game. Like, let's say the Padres were
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: up 7-0 at the end of that game and they're
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: not going to use Miller because it's not a safe situation.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: I'd have been like, hey, Skip, you got to put
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: me in. I can't not play at a game where
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I miss my baby being born. So lastly, when this
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: story broke, everyone asked one thing when they found out
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: that Mason Miller was going to be gone for paternity
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: leave for a night. Is this their first baby? Why
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: should that matter? Why should that matter? Why don't second
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: babies get any love?
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: We know it matters.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: I'm a second child. Here's the thing. It shouldn't matter.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Why doesn't second baby get any respect? I'm a second baby.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I assume my dad was there. I don't think he
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: was at the corner bar with his buddies having a drink.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Second baby, nah, I was at the first baby. My
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: older sister, he was there for that. Then I think
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: about second babies. I don't see a lot of pictures
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: in my mom's scrapbook of me. There's like 300 pictures
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: of my older sister. There's like four. There's not a
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: lot of proof that I had a childhood on the
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: south side of Chicago. There's like four pictures of me.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Second children should get more respect.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I have two kids. I don't even know the name
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: of the second one. I barely remember.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: You've seen her before.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding. Love you.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: You know, now I'm fired up. She's a Rocky too.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: That's my favorite scene. Maybe in all movies.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: She goes... Wait, what was that? When?
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Then the bells come in. We should have that clip
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: ready to play. I can run through this TV screen
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can. Okay, that was awesome.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: All right, my next warm take, let's do a little NFL.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you right now, the single worst
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: move of the offseason came out of the defending champion,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks. Why'd they let Kenneth Walker go? Apparently, Walker
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: said they didn't even offer him an extension. Instead, he
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: signed with the Chiefs. Three years, $ 43 million. And you
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: know what's happening right now. He's absolutely tearing it up. Paul,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: you said he's a September MVP. Hard to argue with.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: 487 rushing yards. Two TDs against the Raiders on Sunday.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: He's been amazing.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, in Seattle, they brought in Joe Mixon, veteran. They
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: had to let him go because he didn't pass the physical.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Jadarian Price, their rookie, first-round pick on the IR. Zach
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Charbonnet got hurt last year. Apparently, he's not even close.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: So they don't have an answer running back. Well, listen,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Seattle's 3-1, Paul. But it is possibly trouble time. They
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: can't run the ball. Sam Darner was injured. They look OK.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Their defense isn't quite the same domination it was at
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: the end of last year. And you've got those two
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: monsters in the NFC West, San Francisco and the L.A.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Rams.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: If Seattle, once they play those teams, they're going to
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: want to control the ball on the ground. So Matthew
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Stafford's not out there. And Brock Purdy, possible MVP, is
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: not out there. And they can't do it. The whole
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: formula is messed up because they don't have a running back.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Why didn't they sign Kenneth Walker? It wasn't that much money, Paul.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: It wasn't big picture that much money. I'm going to
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: take check myself. When this happened, I said on the
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Dan Patrick Show and texting to you, I think this
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: is a great move by the Seahawks. Not parking all
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: that money into a running back on a second contract. Man,
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: was I wrong. I looked at the Seahawks as a
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: team that's big on fiscal responsibility. Their GM does not
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: like spending money in places where it doesn't return. They
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: thought to themselves, we got the best of Kenneth Walker,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl MVP. It worked out. Let someone else pay
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: for the second half of his career. Well, I don't
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: think people realize how much energy he had left. At
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: least for this season, it looks like a terrible letting
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: go of a player.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: It's always kind of weird. They platoon Kenneth Walker a lot.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Then Charbonnet got hurt. Then they had to give all
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: the carries to Walker. They immediately improved as a team.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: And you watch Kenneth Walker. I always thought, why isn't
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Seattle using him more? The guy is hard to tackle.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: But I think they thought by getting Jadarian Price at
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: the end of the first round, you hold his rights
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: for four years at like $ 12 million total. Or we're
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: going to park $ 35 million in Ken Walker. They thought
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: to themselves, yes, Jadarian Price will be a younger version.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: We'll have him for four years. Rinse and repeat. That
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: was their thought process. It's not working out well in September.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: No, actually, Jadarian Price does look pretty good. He's obviously
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: going to be a good player. But Kenneth Walker is exceptional. And,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm not a pay-a-running-back guy or a draft-a-running-back guy,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: but I am watching Kansas City, and my eyes are wide.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: He is awesome.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: All right, last weekend was a very good college football season.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: One of the biggest games was Minnesota taking down Michigan.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: We have the Minnesota head coach, the Golden Gophers head coach, P.J. Fleck,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: joining us next. Crowd surfing, we'll talk about all of it.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Stick around. Yeah, I had to take check myself.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: You got to admit when you're wrong. Yeah, I thought
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: it was the.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, me too. And I think most people.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Fiscal responsibility.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we love fiscal responsibility. Welcome back to Not So Fast.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Perloff.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: He's Paul Paps, NBC Sports Now. And Peacock, of course,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: one of the biggest wins of the weekend. Minnesota knocks
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: off Michigan, and we're so happy... to be joined by
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Minnesota head coach P.J.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Fleck.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Now, Coach, you might not remember this, but in 2018,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: you gave a hype-up speech to Dan and Danette to
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: do a polar plunge in Minnesota. Now, is that one
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: of your greatest coaching feats to make us do something manly?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Because we were inspired. We were ready to run through
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: a wall.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: Well, how'd you feel after it? That's the question. I
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: don't know if I did my job if you didn't
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: feel great after it.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I felt cold.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, hypothermia is not that bad, Coach.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: No. Yeah.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Hey, now it's all about those cold plunges.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: So we were way ahead of the curve.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: It made us ready for the next day's game. All right,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: let's get to your big win on the weekend. We
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: all watched it. Minnesota taking down Michigan at home. I'm curious.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: You're a hyped-up guy. You're a pump-up guy. We see that.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: When you have a game like that where your kids
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: are already pumped up, right before you go out on
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: the field, are you trying to get them up even
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: further or are you trying to get them focused and
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: calm down a little bit?
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: It's a mixture of both. I mean, we always take
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: some deep breaths. I want them to have to take
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: some deep breaths before they go out there. And, you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, you're prepared throughout the entire week for what
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: you're going to go do. And there's there's a build
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: up to the game. And once you get in that
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: locker room, man, I mean, when you're playing, I played
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: for a guy by the name of Joe Novak at
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: Northern Illinois. And he said that there's two types of games.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: There's coaches games and players games. And he goes, you know,
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: those coaches games are when you're 30 point favorites or
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: 35 point favorites. You're supposed to win those games. And
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: I get that piece. But then he also said there
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: are players games when you're playing ranked teams, you're underdogs
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: and you're playing for the little brown jug. And we
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: haven't won that here in Minnesota at Minnesota since 1977.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: If you can't get up for that game, I mean,
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: you're not breathing and living. So he called those players games.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: You don't really need to say much to a player
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: in a players game. They went out there and got
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: it done.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: And I'm so happy for him.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, you could tell on the TV, the crowd
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: in Minnesota, uh, on Saturday, I can't imagine what impact
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: that had on the game. If you're trying to calm
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: anyone down, the second they got on that field, it
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: felt like from start to finish, just hype and just
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: excitement around Minnesota for that.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: You could just feel that energy. And it's unique because
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: we have four rivalry trophies here at the University of Minnesota.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: And for the first time since I've been here, we
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: have all four of those games this year, starting with Michigan.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: And then you have Iowa for Floyd of Rosedale. You've
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: got Paul Bunyan's action with Wisconsin, and you've got the
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: governor's bell at Penn State. We have all four of
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: those this year.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: It was interesting.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: One of the members of the media last week was like,
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: he's an older guy, and he was talking about how
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: this is the number one rival of all of our
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: fan base. I'm kind of looking at him, and I'm
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: sitting there going, when I was hired here, they said,
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: we only want you to beat Wisconsin because we haven't
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: beaten them for 15 straight years. You only have to
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: beat Wisconsin, and you can stay forever. I looked at him,
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: and I was like, they didn't mention Michigan when I
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: first came here, but Those four rivalry trophies are so important,
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: and you can just tell what it means to our state,
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: especially after you bring it home where we haven't had
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: it for so long, especially winning it here in Minneapolis.
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: The reaction from our fans has just been overwhelming because
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: they're just so proud and creating those moments and memories,
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: and a lot of them connecting that day in 1977
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: that now have their children and grandchildren with them, and
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: they remember that day.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Coach, big schedule coming up. Purdue, Iowa, Indiana. I know
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: we say you don't look forward. How do you keep
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: your players from looking forward to games on the schedule?
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: Well, you play in the Big Ten. You know, and
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: one game is everything. I mean, you put everything into
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: one game championship seasons. I think you have to do that.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: You know, I mean, one through 18 in our Big Ten,
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: anybody can beat anybody any given Saturday. And I think
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: the SEC shows that as well. It's incredibly competitive, probably
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: more competitive than it's ever been. You know, it used
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: to be when somebody would take over a job, it'd
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: be two, three years before they could probably make it
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: their own. You can flip it and make it your
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: team within one year with 80 to 85 new players.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: or in that second year, be like, hey, we brought
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: in all these guys, and now we developed them, and
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: here we go. So every single week, you better bring it,
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: and we understand that anybody can win any given Saturday,
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: and you better be at your best.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Coach, we'd like to do a thing here. It's called
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: such thing as a dumb question. I think Minnesota uniforms,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I'm a big uniform guy, is clearly top five in
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: the country, and I'm not pandering. I really do like them.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: As a coach, is it in your contract, or do
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: you have any level of approval for uniforms from week
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: to week?
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: I do have a say.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Actually, our captains have a say.
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: Our captains work with our equipment manager and really before
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: training camp starts about the looks they want each week.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: Then I kind of look at them because what I
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: want to do is I always want to be opposite
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: of what the other team has. So let's say an
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: opposite team has a white helmet. I want a maroon helmet.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: Let's say the team has a gold helmet, then I
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: want a white helmet. I never want our quarterback to
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: ever see the same thing. And so you're looking at
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: it through a quarterback lens, not just a fashion lens.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: And sometimes the players will come up with something, and
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: it's great, but I'll be like, hey, guys, we might
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: have to change the jersey or the pant or the
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: helmet just because we want to alternate that.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: And be opposite of the opponent. I do want to
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: follow up on this for a second. You played at
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Northern Illinois. You were a wide receiver. I actually saw
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: you play when I was at Southern Illinois. Players wear gloves.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Can you as a coach have all your skilled position
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: players wide receivers, tight ends, and running backs, wear yellow
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: gloves to make it easier for the quarterback to find
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: your guys? Is that legal?
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: I didn't use gloves as a wide receiver for a
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: long time in my career.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Tough guy.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: I wish they had them back in the day, though,
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: because when I discovered them and I was like, wow, wait,
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: I actually had pretty good hands back in the day.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: So it's like I could actually make my hands better
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: and stickier. But you had to use to spit on them,
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: the Newman's, and rub them together and get that leather
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: all warmed.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Up, you know?
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yellow gloves, everyone's going to think there's flags
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: all over the field. So I think they have to
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: outlaw that. Just my thought.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: All right, Coach.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Congratulations on the win over Michigan. Good luck the rest
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: of the season. Thank you so much for the time.
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for having us on the show, guys.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Roll the boat, Sky.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Go Gophers.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Coach.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was an all-time great moment. We're at Super Bowl.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: You're with the Dan Patrick Show. We're with the Dan
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Patrick Show. And we're going to do a polar plunge.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: And the video we showed you a little earlier, we said, Coach,
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: can you just give us a pregame speech? And our
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: crew went over there and shot one take with him.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: And he just busted out, went nuts.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: He went nuts.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: And if you saw the postgame against Michigan, he's a
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: wild man. I would have gotten injured if I had
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: tried to do.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: What he did. But he's also a great coach. I
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: think this is year 10 for him.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: And when Indiana can win the title and Minnesota starts
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: out 4-1, I think the sky's the limit. I think
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: the playoff is a possibility, not necessarily a strong one,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: but that's how college football is today.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Indiana changed it for everybody. Every fan base is
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: going to say, why can't we do that? Let me
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: ask you, Pearl, as far as gloves and wide receivers,
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: we were in that era where when we were young,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: it was stick them. Then it was bare handed.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: And then gloves. Is that the biggest performance enhancer in
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: sports history?
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Well, legal, legal. There's something called steroids, which I would
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: say legal. It's crazy.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I guys make one handed catches. That wasn't a thing.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: And I love that he talked about cutters. These cutters,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: you know, cutters were originally, I did a story on
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: this once. The original glove? The original glove was for
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: handymen and workers. It was developed so you could work
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: with electronics and cables and things. And someone figured out
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: that it stuck. Now there's, you know, there's rules about
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: how sticky a glove can be.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Right. But I think receivers cheat all the time. How
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: else do you reach up with one hand and get
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the ball?
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: I couldn't catch it with three hands.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: By the way, you know I always have gloves. Hold
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: on a second. Vamp.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Classic Andrew Perloff. He likes to keep gloves in case
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: a quarterback comes in studio. And here he is. You know,
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: we're on live TV.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: So I carry these because you never know.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: When a game's going to break out?
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: When a game's going to break out. And I am
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: so much better with gloves. I pride myself on my
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: receiving skills.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Now, I can't get open.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: You know, with those on, I can't tell the difference
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: between you and Jester Jefferson by looking at you. You
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: look like the same person.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. No, this is a huge difference. I can't
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: really run, but I can catch ball.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, stationary target, like older Chris Carter.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Do most people not carry receiver gloves around just in case?
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Stick around. Coming up after the break, it's the clip
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: joint and more from the gloved Andrew Perloff. Stick around.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Not so fast.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, these barely fit. What am I doing here? All right.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: They're a little snug.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Cutters are sick, though. Cutters, you can catch anything. Randy
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Moss wore cutters. Did the Raiders have a good loss
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: in that home game against Kansas City?
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: 100%.
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: I think this was the first game, to me, it
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: was a barometer for them. And I got to tell you,
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: I look at the Las Vegas Raiders. And what I
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: see is that this year's version of last year's New
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: England Patriots, and I say from this standpoint, they get
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: a new coach, Mike Brable, it's Clint Kubiak. They went
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: out and spent the most money in free agency, guaranteed money,
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: and they brought in about seven or eight different free agents,
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: Tyler Lindenbaum, Kirk Cousins, Quiddy Paye, N'Gobi Dean, Quay Walker.
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: They got two rookies starting in the back end, kind
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: of like what the New England Patriots did last year.
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: And they also have a last place schedule. So, I
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: think this game this week is very, very big for
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: them to see if they can bounce back. But I
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: love what I'm seeing in doing that. The only difference
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: in New England and them is I think the AFC
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: West is a lot tougher division than the AFC East
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: was a year ago.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Back on Not So Fast, Paps and Perloff here in
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: NBC Sports Now. That's Bill Cowher, former Steelers coach who's
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: always great on the Dan Patrick Show earlier today. He
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: talked about comparing the Raiders and their last-place schedule today.
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: Fair.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: They're doing very well to start, but that schedule is
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: getting really tough right now.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: The teams they've beaten are 1-11 so far this season.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: But it feels good. It feels good. Then it almost
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: feels like a made-up schedule coming up.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Obviously, starting this weekend at New England, Patriots, Buffalo, the Rams,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: the Jets, then the Niners and the Seahawks.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: It's not the AFC West that's the problem.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: It's the NFC West that's their problem and Buffalo. So
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think this is going to happen. New England
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: last year had such an easy schedule.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Not the case.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: It's such a weird situation because a month ago on
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Not So Fast, in month one of Not So Fast,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: we talked about the opportunity to go from Mendoza to
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: get Mendoza in the game. And we thought that Jets
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: game would be it. When they hit that tough patch
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: of the season, it's going to go wrong. We didn't
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: anticipate Kirk Cousins playing so well and the entire team
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: playing so well.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I do like one part of that analogy. I think
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Clint Kubiak could be like Michael McDonald in Seattle. He
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: looks like an elite coach. Looks like he can do
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: two things. He can do the play calling, and he's
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: a leader. I love Clint Kubiak. I just don't think
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: they're going to go where New England went.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: And if you talk about fan bases that feel good
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: right now, feel positive, Raiders have to be right up
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: there because... They may not go to the playoffs this year,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: but you've got to be unbelievably great about your future.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: And you mentioned Tyler Lindenbaum. You know, people don't rejoice
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: when they get a center in the offseason. You should rejoice.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, your team knows what it's doing, parking their
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: money in a star center.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Well, they almost took out Kansas City.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: If they could steal a game from, say, the Bills
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: or the Rams, that's a huge leap, too.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: And I don't think that's out of the question.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: All right, former 49ers star quarterback Steve Young, always on
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: the show, always good. Dan asked him about the referee situation.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: What would he do if he got into it with
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: a referee, or did he get in with referees? when
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: he was a hall of fame player.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah. I, but I did it. I try to
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: do it productively, Dan. I found it very unhelpful to
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: just scream at him. Like they're like, like any human,
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: like I'm just screaming at you. Oh, you know, now
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: I'm mad, mad at you. I think you're a jerk
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: and I'm going to get you back. And I go,
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: So I would always do it subtly. And like, I
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: would say a little passive aggressively, you know, maybe extremely
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: passive aggressive.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Give me, for instance, I'm the official and I didn't,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't call roughing the passer.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: So, uh, you throw a football and you just get
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: mauled and someone grabs your helmet and turns it backwards,
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: you know, and, uh, and you're getting up and there's
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: no flag. Uh, you might say something like, wow, that was, uh,
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: that was a trip, you know? Did you catch that
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: at all? Were you watching?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, Steve Young is pretty mild-mannered. I don't remember
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: him arguing a lot.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I like the word mauled, by the way, mauled by
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: a defender. But I think it's a smart strategy, and
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: that's kind of what we were talking about yesterday. The
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: refs don't want to get shown up and yelled at
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: over and over. I used to see Kobe Bryant do this.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: You'd see Kobe Bryant kind of wave the ref over,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: and he'd just say, hey, you give me the next one,
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: I'm getting the next one, right? Because he absolutely fouled me.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: And then you get the next one and you don't
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: embarrass the ref. And I think that's a strategy more
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: players should have.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look at Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: If the wind blows too hard, he looks at the
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: official like, where's the flag?
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And he usually gets it.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: If you give him a stern look, you get paralyzed
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: 15 yards.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: So he's doing something right.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Steve, you have also talked about Barry Sanders, which is
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: how this all started. We'll get into that in a second.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: But Dan asked if there was anyone like Barry in
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: his prime.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Anybody run like Barry Sanders that you ever seen?
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: I always said he's the only guy that I ever
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: went to the sidelines, you're sitting on the bench, talking
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: to the offensive coach, going through things. The only guy
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: I say, hey, hold up, hold up. I've got to
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: go watch Barry. I know you've got some important things
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: to talk about and a game to win.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Hold on.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: I've got to go watch Barry.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: I really enjoy hearing Hall of Famers talk about other
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Hall of Famers. For Steve Young, before the question was done,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: he goes, nope, that's the only guy I stood up
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: to watch because Barry Sanders, it could happen at any moment.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Remember when Barry would run into a pile and then
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: somehow he'd emerge out of that pile and get a
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: 75-yard touchdown?
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Now, how this topic came up on the show today,
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: a little side moment, if you didn't watch the Dan
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Patrick show earlier today, There is a lot of memorabilia
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: around this place. It's unbelievable. We call it the Dansonian.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: There was an autographed ball of Barry Sanders that was
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: both knocked over and appeared to have some type of
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: glue or gel on it. And Dan was a bit distraught.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: A bit distraught. Yeah. And rightfully so. That looked like
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: a valuable football.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: And if you walk around here, you don't know what
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: you're going to walk into. You walk down a hallway like, oh,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: there's a. Michael Phelps' swim trunks hanging from a bar.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: It's literally there.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: You played a role in this because you were a
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: witness to the original crime, possibly.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Of course, our social media manager, Morgan, knocked over a
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: football by accident. And I remember I was in the
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: corner of the room and you volunteered to help pick
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: it up.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: But you held strong. You didn't narc her out. Yeah.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Like Grandma said, never narc anybody out. But there's so
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: much stuff in here. You do have to be careful
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: because we have people come in here sometimes and be like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: don't touch that. Don't touch that. Don't go near that
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: because there's some memorabilia. Dan mentioned the Kobe Bryant signed jersey.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: It's fantastic. It's an all-star game jersey signed by Kobe
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: from Kobe Bryant to the White Mamba. And I think
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: that's the one that Dan, because Kobe's no longer with us,
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: that's the special one.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. And I'm pretty clumsy.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I will not get anywhere near Dan's side of the
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: man cave. That's all good. And I just try not
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: to knock anything off the desk.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: All right, let's get back to baseball last night. Michael King,
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: the star pitcher for the Padres, he came in because
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Mason Miller, not so fast, couldn't play last night. Michael
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: King talked about coming in, pitching two innings, and getting
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: the save.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I know that I have bullets in my arm that
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I don't want to save. So I felt like it
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: needed to be the right time. I think that it
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: all aligned with Mason going on paternity. Even if he
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: was available, I was still going to be up and
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: ready to go in whatever situation that presented itself. So,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah. if you're in an elimination game, you
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: want everybody to be all in on it. And I
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: feel like not just me included, we have a bunch
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: of dogs down there that are all in.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if I'm a manager and it's a playoff game,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: I'm throwing everyone out there.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Good for him for volunteering. He was nasty. How much
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: does he have left is part of my question.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: But you go day-to-day in the postseason. These days, five-game series,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: you can't think long-term. You have to think short-term. Michael King, though,
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: he is becoming one of those guys where, remember Madison
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Baumgartner years ago with the Giants where he was pitching
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: every game. He would pitch nine and then pitch three
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: more innings the next night. It's those things and how
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: you're remembered because Michael King, very good pitcher during the
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: regular season. Not a household name. He could walk in
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: in his full Padres uniform. I don't think people would
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: know it's him, generally. But that's how you become a legend,
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: by doing things off-base in the postseason.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Madison Bumgarner, though, won two World Series.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: That's next level.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, or three World Series. It's going to be, yeah,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I'd say it was next level.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: All right, if we have time for one more clip,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I like this one because, to me, this is not
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: even a battle. The Bears and the Packers square off
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: this weekend. And Bears wide receiver Luther Burden talked about
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: his feelings going into the game.
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: We want to beat them really bad, like everybody else
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: in the room, every Chicago fan. We just want to
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: beat them real bad and make them quit.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: Boom.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: That is bulletin board material. That's like low-key, kind of mumbly,
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: not yelling it out there, but in Packer land, that's
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: like one of the stories this week.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, the problem is the Packers are so hurt. Is
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: this even a real fair fight?
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Well, what's interesting about these two teams now is Matt LaFleur,
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: not a bulletin board guy, not at all, especially with
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: the condition of his team right now. Ben Johnson has
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: greenlit everybody on the Bears.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Remember, Ben Johnson went after Matt LaFleur.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: He sure did, right in his opening press conference. Ben
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Johnson wears his smack talk on his sleeve. He's all in.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: And so far, it's working out for him, at least
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: with the Packers.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, now I'm not sure who's starting for Bears at quarterback.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Maybe Case Keenan will get another honorary start.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Looks like Bajan.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's a problem.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: But if both teams were, if they had their starting quarterbacks,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: I don't think the Packers are going to win many
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: more games.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Am I missing something right now?
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Unless Micah Parsons comes back at full strength soon, they
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: are just really decimated. The Ezra and Cooper injury, the
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: linebacker last year, the Achilles, last week, that was so devastating.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: He's such a good player. I feel so bad for
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Green Bay fans.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Packers are decimated. There's no excuses, though, on
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Packer Week. Right, before we go, it's time for the rando.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: This is a story we covered in depth here on
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Not So Fast. Kyle Juszczyk, the 49ers fullback, he got
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: the $ 15, 000 fine for celebrating the doing the drinking thing,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: people thought he was like popping a beer and chugging it.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: He said, my nickname is Juice. Juice check. Use check.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: I'm drinking juice. Now, the NFL went back. They had
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: some meetings, I guess. I love the fact that like
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: Georgetown educated lawyers are like, we got to have the meeting,
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: whether it was juice or do we rescind the fine
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: for $ 15, 000. They actually had a meeting and they gave
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: him his 15K back.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: But do you drink juice like this?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: I've been wondering ever since it happened.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe gin and juice, but I don't think that's how
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: you drink juice.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm more of a sipper with juice.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: But that doesn't look good. I'm not going to run
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: for a test and go... Just take a light sip.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: That doesn't inspire the crowd. You've got to pound it.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: By the way, he's out two to three weeks with
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: a really deep bone bruise. That's a big injury. He's
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: a gigantic player for them. It seems like whenever they're
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: running the ball well, it's behind Kyle Juszczyk.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: You know, we need more vital fullbacks in this game.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: It seems like there's only like three in the league
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: that are vital fullbacks.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: And it works. I don't know why everyone doesn't do it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: We'll do an entire fullback show soon on Not So Fast,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: maybe in March. All right, coming up next, constructive criticism
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: and the feel good. Stick around. Not So Fast.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: We'll be right back. That's more of Kyle Brandt saying
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the fullback. It's kind of in the angry run territory.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: You can't call fullbacks. I love Kyle.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: If I do melancholy blocks, can I not do melancholy
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: blocks because Kyle's got angry runs? Sunday Night Football heads
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: to Atlanta for a pivotal Week 5. Always pivotal in
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Week 5. Ravens take on the Falcons in primetime. Sunday
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Night Football on NBC and Peacock.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to Not So Fast. Who knew
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: the Falcons were prime time television, but they sure are now.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: That's exciting.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: All right, Paul, we're a quarter way through the season,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: sort of. With 17 games, you can't really get a quarter.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: But if you look at the standings right now, obviously
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: things are going to change. What do you expect when
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: we reach the halfway point of the season? What is
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: a team, let's start in the AFC, that is going
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: to move the most?
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: This is a weird one because they're not going to move.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Everyone else will move. I'm going to go with the
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars will not lose a game in the next month.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: and we'll have one loss. They're going to be 7-1
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: at this point in the season because no one's challenging them,
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: no one's talking about them, and they're just playing good football.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the Jaguars. I want to mulligan and
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: make them my Super Bowl team in the AFC.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: What's yours?
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: But, unfortunately, I have them with an L in the
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: next month because I have the Houston Texans, who are 0-4,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: going on a run. Now, listen, they're 0-4, but these
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: are good teams they've lost to. Look at the UCS
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: coming up. Tennessee, they're going to get the 1-4. Then
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: they get the Jags at home. Now, in Houston, oh,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's in London. And then they get the
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Giants by Chargers in Cleveland. I think the Texans are
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: not done. I think they will be heard from. But
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: you're getting really good play out of C.J.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Stroud.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's some friendly games at the end of
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: that season for the Texans. If they can get a
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: A hurt Eagles team or a hurt Packers team and
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: then the Titans, they can maybe piece it together after
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: a terrible situation.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're going to have a good month. Now,
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: the key to that team is very obvious. When Nico
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Collins is on the field, they are very, very good
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: on offense.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: When he's off, C.J. Stroud struggles.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: But the defense can't be bad, Paul. I've been watching
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: this team for too long. D'Amico Ryans will figure it out.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Gave up four touchdowns to the Cowboys in the second half,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: so they can be bad. They shouldn't be bad. NFC picture,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: what do you got?
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, I am going with the Dallas Cowboys. They're about
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: to go on a run, Paul.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Sorry, their schedule is easy. And not only that, they
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: are now in one of the easiest divisions. in the
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: NFL because Philadelphia is not going to be great without
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Lane Johnson.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: The Giants are a very weak 3-1. Sorry, Jameis.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: And the Commanders are a mess. Even with Jaden Daniels
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: coming back, the Commanders do not have everything together. The
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Cowboys are going to storm to the top of the
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: division and stay there.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Here's how you can tell we don't prepare or rehearse
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: or share notes before the show. I also had the
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: Cowboys in the NFC.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, come on.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: No, I do. I think their defense is getting better,
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: not great. Their offense is fantastic. And it's more about
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: the rest of the division. They're just going to keep
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: losing games. The Cowboys will turn through some of these games,
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: and look at the teams they're facing. These are all
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: teams with issues until you get to the 49ers.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: The injuries for Green Bay and Philly. Dallas also, not
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: only that, they're improving a little bit on defense. They're
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: small improvements. Their offense is awesome.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: All right, back to baseball. It's time for a little
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: clinch or clench. Four games today. I'm going to go
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: to you real quick. Braves, do they force Game 5
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: against the Dodgers?
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: You know, I like the Dodgers to keep rolling in
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: that series. Without Chris Sale, once you're through the Chris
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Sale game, you're good against Atlanta.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not picking against the Dodgers. Yankees, Rays.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Yankees seem dead in the water to me. They seem
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: really uninspired.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: And the Rays, not star-laden team. Nobody talks about them.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: They just play good baseball. They won all season. Guardians
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: versus the White Sox this afternoon. Sox team of destiny
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: or Guardians steal one?
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: I feel like the White Sox take one step back.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: It can't be this easy. That's my only theory. It
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: just can't be this easy.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: They can't go undefeated on a run. Like a magical
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: run can't be undefeated.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I'm going Cleveland. All right.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: Padres, Brewers tonight.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I said it yesterday. That home field in San Diego
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: is everything. I say they force a game five.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: Okay. Padres. Oh, man. The Brewers better get this one.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: You do not want to.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. No, you're okay. Let's bring it back to Milwaukee.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: Let's bring it back to Milwaukee. Love the crowd there
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: as well. All right, time to move on to constructive criticism.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: What you think of what we're doing, questions, tailgating, food, drink, football,
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: whatever it may be. Pearl, let's sneak one in here.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: Build us your perfect tailgate for a Midwestern fall Sunday.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, you're from the Midwest, Paul. Help us out.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: I'm going to leave with crockpots. Crockpots for the win.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: You make a crockpot full of chili or meatballs.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: What time are you getting there to do the crockpot?
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Crockpots take some time to really stew.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: You do it the night before. You put it in
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: the fridge, and then you put it in, you plug
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: it in, you have an adapter. So chili is the winner.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: Chili is always a winner. If people don't like chili,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: that's more for you. So perfect Midwestern tailgate. Apple cider
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: for the non-drinkers. Quality beer. Maybe a little bourbon or
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: whiskey for people. But also, don't be afraid to get
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: some morning donuts for the early risers.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: You gave me a chili hack once. You might not
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: even know this, but I made chili. Actually, it's one
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: thing I can cook.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: You're a good chili guy.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: And you let it cool off for 10 minutes before
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: eating it. And you said, I don't like my chili
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: too hot, temperature-wise.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got to let it coagulate.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: That totally worked.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: Coagulate. All right, one more real quick. Constructor criticism. Do
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: you think Super Bowl victories should weigh more heavily in
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: ranking the all-time quarterbacks? Or should MVPs weigh more heavily?
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you don't have a Super Bowl, it's
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: hard to get in the Hall of Fame. I don't
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: think it can be any bigger.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: A Super Bowl win?
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: A Super Bowl victory, yeah.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: No.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Matt Ryan's going to have a hard time.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Matt Ryan, maybe, but there are other guys. Jim Kelly,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: there's no question about him.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: He went to four. How about Phil Rivers?
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Phil Rivers is going to be tough. He didn't even
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: make a Super Bowl, so that's tougher. Eli didn't get
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: in on the first ballot, which surprised me, so.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe people are devaluing Super Bowl wins as well.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Time for the feel-good. Let's go back to San Diego,
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: back to the Padres, and back to the 90s.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Blink-182.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Here we go, Pearl. You love these guys. Tom DeLonge
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: in the backward hat, of course. They play... all the
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: small things all the time there in Padres land. And
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: there he is like, he's doing 90s rocker hands to
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: the camera, getting the crowd pumped up as if they
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: get more pumped up.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, but I just want to make sure he's not
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: stepping on the toes of your favorite musician who is
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: a Toronto Blue Jays fan.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Rush?
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Geddy Lee was always right behind the plate too. I
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: don't know, I feel like it's a little derivative.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: There's room for Geddy Lee, there's room for Tom DeLonge.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: People around here love Blink-188. Someone said they're the U2
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: of their generation.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: It was also in the same generation as U2, but whatever.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: Tune into the Dan Patchers tomorrow. Actor Ben Affleck on
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: the Dan Patch Show. Then come hang with us right here.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: Not so fast. Pass and purl off.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: See you.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Enjoy the games.