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Nannies from Hell leave children dead! 'Don't Be A Victim' · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. You know, this morning, when
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Speaker 1: I dropped the twins off at school, I watched them
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Speaker 1: till they walked all the way in. I drove off,
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Speaker 1: and I worried about them. That started the first time
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Speaker 1: we had a babysitter. Because no matter how much you
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Speaker 1: think you know other people, you can be proven wrong.
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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about daycare disasters and babysitters straight from
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Speaker 1: hell today. What can we learn from other crime victims,
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Speaker 1: parents who wish they had made a different decision. Don't
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Speaker 1: be a victim. Fight back against America's crime wave. This
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Speaker 1: book is not to instill fear in you. This book
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Speaker 1: is to arm you with information to potentially save your
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Speaker 1: life and protect your children. You know what, when I
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Speaker 1: gave birth, I vowed that day that I would spend
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Speaker 1: the rest of my life doing everything I can to
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Speaker 1: protect my children. And I know you feel the same way.
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Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to this. How's a
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Speaker 1: baby sand breathing? You can place set all right? He's
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Speaker 1: not focusing with his eyes. He's making you. I cannot
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Speaker 1: even stand to listen to that. It hurts me so
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Speaker 1: much to think of baby Mattie dying. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to our friend Bill Curtis, American Justice. When paramedics arrived,
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Speaker 1: Woodward led them to the dining room where eight month
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Speaker 1: old Matthew Eapen was lying unconscious on the floor. The
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Speaker 1: infant was gasping for breath and jerking uncontrollably. While the
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Speaker 1: paramedics tried to stabilize Matthew, Woodward paged the baby's mother,
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Speaker 1: Deborah again. This time she made contact, told her what
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Speaker 1: was happening. Matthew was rushed to Children's Hospital in Boston.
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Speaker 1: The boy's parents were both doctors who worked nearby. They
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Speaker 1: arrived at the emergency room within minutes. Five days after
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Speaker 1: being a minute to Children's Hospital in Boston, baby Mattie died.
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Speaker 1: I can't do anything about that, but I can analyze
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Speaker 1: what happened while he was there, along with his British nanny,
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Speaker 1: the opier, So it doesn't happen again. With me an
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Speaker 1: all star panel to break you down and put it
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Speaker 1: back together again. Doug Burns, former federal prosecutor now defense attorney,
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Speaker 1: Fox contributor joining me out of Manhattan. Doctor Daniel Bober
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Speaker 1: forensics psychiatrists. You can find him on insta A Doctor
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Speaker 1: Daniel bober. He's the chief of Psychiatry Memorial Regional Healthcare System,
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Speaker 1: Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My Feet,
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Speaker 1: and the star of a new show of Poisonous Liaisons
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Speaker 1: on True Crime Network. Joe Scott Morgan, Tom Peterie, America's
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Speaker 1: leading personal safety expert and author of Tom Petteri's Personal
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Speaker 1: Protection Handbook which is Awesome, Doctor Free and hess child
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Speaker 1: safety expert, physician, founder of petiemom dot com and the
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Speaker 1: Pete Mom podcast. But first to leave a page Crime
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Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter. Let's first talk about baby
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Speaker 1: Mattie Eapen and then nanny that killed him that was
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Speaker 1: found guilty by a jury. Louise Woodward. Is it true
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Speaker 1: that she would leave the family home was she was
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Speaker 1: supposed to be living and would go see a Broadway show?
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Speaker 1: I believe it was rant almost thirty times. You're correct, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: In this nineteen year old British nanny Louise Woodward, she
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Speaker 1: had worked previously for another family in the suburbs of Boston,
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Speaker 1: but she thought that that was too far away from
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Speaker 1: Boston for her to enjoy the Boston nightlife, so she
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Speaker 1: took a job with the Epon family in Newton, Massachusetts,
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Speaker 1: and they complained that she was out all the time,
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Speaker 1: out into the wee hours of the morning, and when
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Speaker 1: it came time to watch baby Matthew, that she wasn't
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Speaker 1: ready many times and they complained about her. They told
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Speaker 1: her to get in shape her they were going to
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Speaker 1: have to fire her. And then right after that, Baby
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Speaker 1: Maddie is shaken according to experts, until he suffered shaken
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Speaker 1: baby syndrome and ultimately Baby Maddie died. Let me go
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Speaker 1: straight out to Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor forensics death investigator,
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Speaker 1: explain what I mean by shaking baby syndrome. With shaken
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Speaker 1: baby syndrome, Nancy, this is something that you commonly see
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Speaker 1: with caretakers that express their frustration with not being able
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Speaker 1: to manage a child quiet and a child. So what
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Speaker 1: they will do literally is grabbed the child many times
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Speaker 1: by their shoulders and they will shake them vigorously, and
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Speaker 1: this can lead to all kinds of damage to particularly
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Speaker 1: the neurosystem talking about the brain, where the brain is
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Speaker 1: kind of literally slashing around inside of the skull. There's
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Speaker 1: also evidence that this can lead to things like detached retinas.
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Speaker 1: There have been kids that have been placed into deep
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Speaker 1: comas and obviously children that have eventually died as well.
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Speaker 1: To doctor Free and hass physician child safety expert, and
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Speaker 1: you can find doctor Hassett Pete as in Pediatrician petemom
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Speaker 1: dot com. Doctor hass again, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: What are the signs of shaking baby syndrome? There are
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Speaker 1: actually quite a few. Sometimes they can be subtled depending
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Speaker 1: on how often and how often it's happening and how
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Speaker 1: extreme it is. During that episode. Oftentimes the child will
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Speaker 1: appear tired, fussy, seem overly cranky, which actually makes things
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Speaker 1: worse because oftentimes this is due to a baby crying
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Speaker 1: and a frustrated caregiver, and so they then shake them
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Speaker 1: and they become more irritable crying, they start vombiting. Oftentimes,
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Speaker 1: they can start becoming depress, meaning that they are sluggish,
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Speaker 1: They can become floppy, they can have difficulty breathing, and
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Speaker 1: if it becomes severe enough, they can go into a
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Speaker 1: coma and they can die. Shake a baby syndrome also
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Speaker 1: known as shake an impact syndrome. It's a serious, serious
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Speaker 1: form of abuse inflicted on a child. It occurs when
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Speaker 1: a caregiver or parent shakes the baby violently and the
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Speaker 1: brain is going back and forth against the inside of
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Speaker 1: the skull and just got morgod. It's my understanding that
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Speaker 1: because the brain is hitting up against the inside of
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Speaker 1: the skull, the brain starts to swell, and at some point,
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Speaker 1: if you don't put a shunt or a hole in
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Speaker 1: the top of the head with a tube in it
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Speaker 1: to release the pressure and to somewhat open the skull
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Speaker 1: for the brain to swell and then subside, then the
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Speaker 1: baby will either be profoundly handicapped due to the brain
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Speaker 1: swelling up against the skull and being damaged, or the
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Speaker 1: baby will die. Yeah, Nancy, And this leads to a's
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Speaker 1: what's kind of a congestive event in the brain. The brain,
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Speaker 1: you know, keep in mind, the skull is very static.
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Speaker 1: It's absolutely static. It's a bony structure. And then you've
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Speaker 1: got the soft, malleable, pliable organ that's contained their end
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Speaker 1: and it begins to swell and press against the size.
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Speaker 1: So you know you were referring to placing the shunt.
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Speaker 1: This literally relieves the pressure the Epens. Maddie EPEN's parents
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Speaker 1: both doctors. They vetted Louise Woodward very heavily. She came
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Speaker 1: from a very well to do, well known prestigious nanny.
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Speaker 1: How can I say firm she had the British accent.
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Speaker 1: She had where he thought the education, But what she
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Speaker 1: didn't have is skills with the baby, Baby Maddie dead
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Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace, how can you protect your child?
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Speaker 1: That is what we're talking about right now, And in
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Speaker 1: my book took two years to research, study and write
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Speaker 1: this for you. You just heard a scary but true
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Speaker 1: story about Louise Woodward and baby Maddie. To top it
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Speaker 1: all off, the mom Deborah Epen got rooms of hate
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Speaker 1: mail because she worked. Yes, because she had a job
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Speaker 1: as a physician, she reduced the time she went to
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Speaker 1: work so she could come home and breastfeed and be
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Speaker 1: with baby Maddie. She's working a couple and a half days,
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Speaker 1: but people still attacked her because she was a working mom.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine losing your baby and then being the
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Speaker 1: subject of hateful trolls. That is what she has endured.
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Speaker 1: And just so you know, the trial judge, even after
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Speaker 1: the jury returning guilty verdict, Judge Hillard and Zoe bell
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Speaker 1: as I recall his name being let the nanny Louise
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Speaker 1: Woodward walk free. That's just a tip of the iceberg.
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Speaker 1: I want to touch on daycare workers, caregivers that come
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Speaker 1: into your home and when you leave your child at
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Speaker 1: their home. Take a listen to our friend Heatherly at
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Speaker 1: KMG Fox forty four. October twenty nine, thirty three year
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Speaker 1: old Rochelle Sapp was watching three year old Autumn Eldersma
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Speaker 1: at her in home daycare center. According to newly released
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Speaker 1: court documents, Sapp called Autom's mother around nine o'clock that
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Speaker 1: morning to tell her Autumn had fallen down the stairs.
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Speaker 1: She said she would keep a close eye on Autumn
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Speaker 1: and give her some tylan all. Not even twenty minutes later,
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Speaker 1: Sap called Autumn's mother again to tell her Autumn was
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Speaker 1: quote way out of it and that she thought her
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Speaker 1: neck was hurt. Autumn's mother rushed to SAP's house. Autumn
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Speaker 1: was taken to Orange City Hospital, but because her injuries
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Speaker 1: were so bad, she was airlifted to a hospital in
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Speaker 1: sux Falls. Doctors there diagnosed her with the skull fracture
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Speaker 1: and brain swelling. She died of her injuries October thirty first,
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Speaker 1: SAP's initial claimed that Autumn fell down the stairs didn't
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Speaker 1: match up with a medical opinion that the little girl's
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Speaker 1: injuries were not consistent with that kind of fall. Sap
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Speaker 1: later told police she threw the girl down hard on
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Speaker 1: the floor, causing her to hit her head, because she
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Speaker 1: was frustrated with Autumn, who was having trouble getting her
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Speaker 1: jacket off. To my longtime colleague and personal friend, Doug Burns, Doug,
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Speaker 1: I know you're a high profile criminal defense attorney now,
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Speaker 1: but you are wants the federal prosecutor, and you have
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Speaker 1: raised and help raised plenty of children. Okay, so if
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Speaker 1: you could for me, as a favor, take off your
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Speaker 1: defense hat. How dare she throw this baby girl down
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Speaker 1: the stairs? Because the baby girl loved her new coat
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Speaker 1: and did not want to take her coat off, she
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Speaker 1: threw her down the stairs and she died. Another thing,
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Speaker 1: here's my question, Doug, not hypothetical, not rhetorical, but have
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Speaker 1: you noticed because I have noticed it all the years
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Speaker 1: I prosecuted all the different trials that would be murderer, drugs, rape,
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Speaker 1: a bank robbery, I noticed, Doug, that when the victim
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Speaker 1: is a child, more often you see cheap plea deals,
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Speaker 1: and I don't know why that is. You get an
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Speaker 1: infant that's murdered or a little girl like Autumn, and
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Speaker 1: somehow it always goes down to volunteery manslaur not me.
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Speaker 1: Oh h e double il n oh. But I did
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Speaker 1: notice overall that when the victim is a child, the
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Speaker 1: plea deal is cheaper. Did you ever notice that? You know,
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Speaker 1: it's interesting because I was studying the materials and so forth.
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Speaker 1: You know, for this morning. That's why you win all
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Speaker 1: your cases, Doug Burns, because you are a worker. Go ahead, Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that you know, basic old school work ethic,
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Speaker 1: learned that from my late father. But the point is,
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Speaker 1: in studying, I was saying to myself, because you know,
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Speaker 1: a lot of what I've spent my time in is
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Speaker 1: you know, a white collar and financial crime and so on,
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Speaker 1: and been in some organized crime. Not so much this area.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I've worked with you for years. You
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Speaker 1: know it's been fantastic on these type of issues. But
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Speaker 1: the point is I was saying to myself, Chief, these
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Speaker 1: sentences seem extremely low and back to the case that
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Speaker 1: you mentioned with Louise Woodward, I mean, judge let her
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Speaker 1: leave prison after something like two hundred and thirty nine days,
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Speaker 1: and I'm scratching my head saying, what is the story
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Speaker 1: with that? But to your question and to your point,
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Speaker 1: I definitely have noticed a trend which is yes, and
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Speaker 1: it's probably you know. I would defer to the physicians
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Speaker 1: and psychiatrists. They're not in you're in core. I need
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Speaker 1: an answer type a human nature point. Yeah, some type
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Speaker 1: of human nature, A point about how you know the
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Speaker 1: victim is an infant versus a full grown adult. But
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Speaker 1: to tell you the truth, I find it surprising as
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Speaker 1: you raised it, Nncy, It's true and I noticed it
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Speaker 1: emphatically as a prosecutor. And now and Burns is pointing
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Speaker 1: out that even a judge did it. When day burn
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Speaker 1: said the judge let Louise Woodward out after two hundred
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Speaker 1: plus days, she got time served. That's how long she
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Speaker 1: had been in waiting for trial since baby maybe Maddie died.
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Speaker 1: She walked out of the courthouse to doctor Daniel Bober,
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Speaker 1: forensics psychiatry Chief of Psychiatry, Memorial Regional Healthcare System. Doctor Bober,
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Speaker 1: I think it's because very often when you have child
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Speaker 1: homicide or infant homicide, the perp is a woman. I mean,
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Speaker 1: think about top Mom Casey Anthony just an example. People
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Speaker 1: look at her and they think, oh, she's a young mom,
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Speaker 1: she would never do that. It's ingrained in us because
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Speaker 1: we think of our mother, our own mother, and when
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Speaker 1: you think of a mother, you don't think of killing
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Speaker 1: a child. So when you have a woman defendant, very
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Speaker 1: often they get a break because of their gender. That's
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Speaker 1: what I think, doctor Bober. Yeah, it's absolutely Nancy. There
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Speaker 1: really is a gender differential reaction. There are people do
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Speaker 1: react differently to different sexes, for sure, And you know
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Speaker 1: in these types of cases, you know, this is everyone's
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Speaker 1: worst nightmare. But people, you know, get these nannies and
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Speaker 1: they do background checks on them and you think, you know,
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Speaker 1: you can trust it, but you really can't because you
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Speaker 1: just don't know what's in their background and what have
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Speaker 1: not been discovered as it yet to Tampa Cherry, America's
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Speaker 1: leading personal safety expert, author of Tampa Cherry's Personal Protection Handbook,
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Speaker 1: which is awesome Tom. In the book Don't Be a Victim,
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Speaker 1: Fight Back against America's Crime Wave, I talk about how
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Speaker 1: to keep your child safe from hellish daycare providers. Now
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Speaker 1: knowing what I know, and seeing what I've seen. I
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Speaker 1: constantly and when the children, especially were too young to
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Speaker 1: tell me what was going on, did surprise visits at
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Speaker 1: the daycare. Don't laugh, but terry, but very often my
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Speaker 1: husband want them to get in daycare. You know, fine.
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Speaker 1: I threw a fit, but finally I'm like, okay, I'll
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Speaker 1: go two days a week, two hours at a time.
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Speaker 1: I was so worried because they'd screen bloody murder when
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Speaker 1: I would leave, and I would very often sit in
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Speaker 1: the parking lot and you be quiet, because I don't
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Speaker 1: want to hear any snickering from you over there in
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Speaker 1: the corner. I was sit in the parking lot and
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Speaker 1: work because I was in the middle of writing a
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Speaker 1: book at that time, and I'd bring a towel in
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Speaker 1: case it was riting. And I would very often go
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Speaker 1: up to the window where they were and look in.
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Speaker 1: And at first I think the teachers were a little afraid,
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Speaker 1: but after that they got used to it because I
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Speaker 1: didn't trust them. What are your suggestions for keeping your
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Speaker 1: children safe? Like with Autumn, she was at an in
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Speaker 1: home daycare where a woman kept children in her home
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Speaker 1: or sometimes are unlicensed. What is your suggestion for parents well,
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Speaker 1: first of all, you bring up some great points. I
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Speaker 1: went through that too with my son. You know, as
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Speaker 1: parents were providers, were caregivers, but most of all were protectors.
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Speaker 1: So one of the things that I always teach my
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Speaker 1: parents to do that I train is listen. You walk
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Speaker 1: into a daycare facility, don't look at it from your eyes,
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Speaker 1: look at it from a child eyes. So get down
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Speaker 1: low on your side, you know, to your knees. Look
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Speaker 1: at what things could be obstacle or hurting devices for
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Speaker 1: a child. The second thing which you did naturally is
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Speaker 1: keep them in spotlight. Make sure they know you're over concerned,
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Speaker 1: make sure that you call at random times, make sure
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Speaker 1: you check and balance on unpredictable times. By keeping them
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Speaker 1: in spotlight, keeps them on their toes and understands that
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Speaker 1: you know this baby, your child is the most precious
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Speaker 1: thing on life for you as well as for them. Well,
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Speaker 1: put Tom Terry crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're
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Speaker 1: talking about don't be a victim. How can you protect
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Speaker 1: your children? Here's just a few. I mean, I got
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Speaker 1: carried away. No more I would work in a chapter.
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Speaker 1: The more ideas I would have, the more tips I
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Speaker 1: would find from other professionals, like you're hearing right now.
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Speaker 1: For instance, Oh, make sure the provider does not include
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Speaker 1: anyone under qualify to take care of your children. What
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Speaker 1: is the pickup policy? Does the provider have written policies
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Speaker 1: on medication? Here's a good one. Don't have a pool
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Speaker 1: or pond anywhere near the play area period. I nearly
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Speaker 1: did a backflip, but our little Methodist church put a
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Speaker 1: little pond in the play area for the children. I
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Speaker 1: spoke to them on a level that they would understand.
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Speaker 1: I said, you're gonna get sued, okay, not by me
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Speaker 1: because my children know how to swim, but by the
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Speaker 1: family where this child is going to fall in that
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Speaker 1: end up upside down under the water, even though it's
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Speaker 1: not deep. They got rid of that prompto, thank goodness.
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Speaker 1: See background checks on every person working there who should
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Speaker 1: be checked. Everybody run vehicle checks for their history. Do
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Speaker 1: you want somebody that has had multiple crashes and it
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Speaker 1: was their fault? Our male repairmen, our service providers on
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Speaker 1: the premises. Often if other parents are allowed to visit,
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Speaker 1: are they ever alone with your child? Could the daycare
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Speaker 1: at center provide references from other parents? They should? And
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Speaker 1: if they get angry when you ask. Then you're at
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Speaker 1: the wrong place. Is there a qualified health professional for
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Speaker 1: the provider? Do they have written policies on medication? Which
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Speaker 1: leads me to the next story, A true story. Listen
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Speaker 1: to our friend Nathaniel read NBC five. Brenda Colburn received
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Speaker 1: news no grandparent wants to hear. I I got a
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Speaker 1: call from my daughter. I work at the hospital, and
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Speaker 1: she said, are you still at work? And I said no.
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Speaker 1: When she said, well, Harper's going to the hospital. Brenda
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Speaker 1: six month old granddaughter, Harper Rose Brier died on January
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Speaker 1: twenty fourth. During that time, you know all, I kept
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Speaker 1: telling myself clothes, I needed to be strong for my
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Speaker 1: daughter in her fiance at the time, because they needed
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Speaker 1: their strength. They needed me to be there and be
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Speaker 1: strong for them. Court documents say Harper died after ingesting
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Speaker 1: more than a standard dose of an over the counter
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Speaker 1: antihistamine and sedative while in the care of a daycare
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Speaker 1: program run by Stacy Valancourt. She is now facing manslaughter
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Speaker 1: and child cruelty charges. Straight out to our crimal line
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Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter Levi Page, what happened to Harper
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Speaker 1: Rose So Nancy. This is a case out of Rutland,
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Speaker 1: Vermont and Harper Rose Brier is six month old. A
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Speaker 1: little baby was found unresponsive while in the care of
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Speaker 1: fifty three year old Stacy Valancourt. She ran a childcare
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Speaker 1: facility out of her home. She called nine one, paramedics came,
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Speaker 1: got the baby, rushed the baby to the er. The
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Speaker 1: baby died, and an autopsy report showed that baby Harper
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Speaker 1: was given a fatal amount of antihistamines by Valancourt. The
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Speaker 1: anihistamine is deepened hydramamine and it's used to treat cold
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Speaker 1: and allergy symptoms. But it also sedates you when you
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Speaker 1: take it. And this is a drug, and it says
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Speaker 1: this on the warning label that you do not give
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Speaker 1: it to infants unless a doctor advises someone to give
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Speaker 1: it to an infant. But this baby Harper had this
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Speaker 1: drug in her system. Oh man, she didn't just have
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Speaker 1: it in her system. She had a ton of it
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Speaker 1: in her system. And I'll tell you why the baby
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Speaker 1: got the vinetral because she wanted the daycare wanted her
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Speaker 1: doped up to go to sleep so they wouldn't have
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Speaker 1: to take care of her. Listen to this, and I
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Speaker 1: write about Harper Rose Bryer in the book on page
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Speaker 1: seventy eight. As much as the mts and others try,
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Speaker 1: they could not revise baby Harper. Mommy couldn't understand what happened.
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Speaker 1: Harper had been perfectly fine that morning. The final autopsy
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Speaker 1: reports state Harper was found unresponsive, extremely high concentrations of
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Speaker 1: the main ingredient in Benadrill. Prosecutors allege Valancourt sedated and
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Speaker 1: otherwise beautiful, happy, healthy, six month old child, where the
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Speaker 1: baby could not lift her head and die. When Valancourt's
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Speaker 1: legal team says she is not guilty, forty supporters of
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Speaker 1: Harper were there, all of them wearing pink T shirts
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Speaker 1: saying justice for Harper Rose. I end the segment by saying,
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Speaker 1: as I go about my days and nights taking care
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Speaker 1: of the twins, I think about Harper's mom and dad.
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Speaker 1: They are making T shirts and planning the next court
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Speaker 1: date and remembering their little girl. Joe Scott Morgan explain
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Speaker 1: what benadrill does to a child. Yeah, n see, it
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Speaker 1: is an antihistamine, which means that it will essentially knock
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Speaker 1: those allergies down. It will enable you to get a
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Speaker 1: decent night's rest. Your eyes are not going to be
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Speaker 1: as running and congested. But this is the problem with
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Speaker 1: a baby, for instance, most of the time, and to
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Speaker 1: the best of my knowledge, it's applied with a dropper.
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Speaker 1: It comes in a liquid form. And what happens when
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Speaker 1: you overdose a little baby whose system is so very fragile, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: It leads to things like a respiratory failure, for instance,
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Speaker 1: because it slows the breathing so much. It also slows
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Speaker 1: the heart rate, which is very very dangerous that you
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Speaker 1: will hear about hypertension. This can make a baby hypotensive
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Speaker 1: and so their blood pressure will drop out and suddenly
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Speaker 1: you have a child that's in full cardiac arrest. Well,
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Speaker 1: baby Harper, I'm sad to say, is not the only
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Speaker 1: child that died in this manner. Take a list to
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Speaker 1: our friend Marissa Ultra Brounch needs twelve posta. Harold Cardillo
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Speaker 1: ran an unlicensed daycare out of her home on Edgewood
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Speaker 1: Road for eleven years. Adam had only been in her
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Speaker 1: care for eleven days when he died in March twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 1: What his parents thought was sid's. An autopsy revealed to
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Speaker 1: be a deadly overdose of ben and drill. Court records
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Speaker 1: found Cardillo had bought ninety bottles of the antihistamine over
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Speaker 1: three years, mostly children's flavor. I want the court to
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Speaker 1: know that I am here said that this has happened
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Speaker 1: to a beautiful little play. He was a beautiful little poy.
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Speaker 1: During Cardillo's statement, she never apologized or addressed Siegal's parents.
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Speaker 1: She told the court she's always tried to lead a
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Speaker 1: kind and generous life. I ask you she usual best judgment, wisdom,
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Speaker 1: compassionate mercy, not only for myself a place to start.
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Speaker 1: I don't even want to hear what say the baby
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Speaker 1: is dead and she can go on and on and
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Speaker 1: on about how compassionate she is, But the baby is
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Speaker 1: dead doped up on benadill. Did you hear that? That's
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Speaker 1: well over gosh nami bottles between one and three gallons
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Speaker 1: of benadrill. What is she taking that herself? To? Our
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Speaker 1: friend doctor free and Hess, physician chall safety expert, founder
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Speaker 1: of Pedmom, said pediatrician pedemom dot com and the Pedemom podcast,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Hess, explain to me how ben a drill and
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Speaker 1: babies don't mix and how you can stop a daycare
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Speaker 1: provider from doping your child up. Yeah, So just so
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Speaker 1: that everybody understands, we actually don't suggest benadrill in children
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Speaker 1: even under six, without speaking to a physician first, and
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Speaker 1: especially in children under one. Even when I see children
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Speaker 1: in the pediatric emergency room and they're under one, I'm
26:48
Speaker 1: still a little concerned to give it myself, never mind
26:51
Speaker 1: for anybody else. So absolutely, this medication should not have
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Speaker 1: been given to children of that age, any infant. It
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Speaker 1: can cut seizures, arrhythmia, and coma. I mean, it's really
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Speaker 1: really concerning. We don't know how the metabolism works for kids.
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Speaker 1: A lot of times under six months of age, they
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Speaker 1: don't metabolize medications the same, which is why we're a
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Speaker 1: lot more cautious with them, and this particular medicine can
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Speaker 1: be very dangerous. So absolutely, one of the things I
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Speaker 1: think parents need to be sure of is that they're
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Speaker 1: confirming with the daycare worker that they are outrightuting not
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Speaker 1: to give any medication without a discussion first and without
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Speaker 1: a physician to approval. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
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Speaker 1: how can you protect your child from daycare dangers and
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Speaker 1: babysitters nanny's from hell? What I'm talking to you about
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Speaker 1: today is really the tip of the ice bar because
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Speaker 1: I spend pages and pages and pages devoted to this subject. Adult.
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Speaker 1: These are just a vic tips of the icebergs in
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Speaker 1: protecting your child. Take a Listen to Courtney Coles, CBS
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Speaker 1: forty seven, Jacksonville, tess So. They were called out to
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Speaker 1: the center just after one this afternoon. When they arrived,
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Speaker 1: they tried to help jfrt resuscitate the unconscious infant who
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Speaker 1: wasn't breathing while in a car seat. The child was
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Speaker 1: immediately taken to the hospital. Love and Hope Preschool Daycare
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Speaker 1: anything but and that baby girls not the only one,
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Speaker 1: listen to our friends at KATV news. Police describe the
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Speaker 1: disregard for safety protocols as reckless. The family wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: plane at a funeral, they would be waiting for Christopher
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Speaker 1: get almost afternoon, but police say four employees didn't do
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Speaker 1: their jobs. The driver, Felicia Phillips and her assistant Pamela Robinson,
28:52
Speaker 1: were responsible for unloading the kids, who were then supposed
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Speaker 1: to be checked off a list by transportation supervisor Wanta Taylor.
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Speaker 1: When they walked in the classroom, she actually checked him
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Speaker 1: in as being in the classroom, though he never made
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Speaker 1: it into the classroom. Kendrew Washington was the fourth line
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Speaker 1: of defense. She's supposed to go outside and look in
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Speaker 1: the van. So the daycare had all these precautions. This
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Speaker 1: one is supposed to get the children out of the van.
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Speaker 1: This one is supposed to check the van. This one
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Speaker 1: is supposed to check the children in as they come
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Speaker 1: in the door. This one's supposed to go out and
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Speaker 1: search the van. Again, that's odd. Five levels of protocol
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Speaker 1: and they were all totally ignored. And yet another baby
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Speaker 1: a daycare dies and a hot van. Speaking of in
29:41
Speaker 1: home nanny's in babysitters, you got to do a background check.
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Speaker 1: They're easy to do. You can actually do them online.
29:48
Speaker 1: If the babysitter won't give you a full name in dB,
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Speaker 1: you got the wrong candidate. Also make sure you look
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Speaker 1: at their social media. You don't want somebody out I
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Speaker 1: sucking on a bog or drive been drunk with a
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Speaker 1: bottle in their hand in the car. You can learn
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Speaker 1: so much you it's on you, you parent. It's your
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Speaker 1: duty to check out who is with your children, not
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Speaker 1: just the babysitters, but the teachers at school. Two. You
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Speaker 1: know I've checked every one of my teachers out from
30:21
Speaker 1: my children. That's twins, and there are different classes. That's
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Speaker 1: a lot of teachers. Same thing goes for credit check.
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Speaker 1: Trust me, you may think I'm going overboard. You'll thank
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Speaker 1: me later. Don't judge a book by its cover. Please don't.
30:36
Speaker 1: These daycarees, teachers and in home babysitters they look great.
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Speaker 1: The babies are dead. Don't judge the book by the cover.
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Speaker 1: Look them up on social media, ask friends, neighbors, or
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Speaker 1: co workers for recommendations. You can do initial screenings over
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Speaker 1: the phone. I will never forget the first babysitters I
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Speaker 1: was getting for the twins when we would be in Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: They sounded great on the phone. Their recommendations look great.
31:06
Speaker 1: I met with them their three sisters. They stumped a
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Speaker 1: high heaven of nicotine. Now you know, babies that are
31:14
Speaker 1: exposed to nicotine have a higher chance of sid's Sudden
31:19
Speaker 1: infant death syndrome. I said, hey, do y'all smoke? And
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Speaker 1: they no, So you know I believe. I said, we
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Speaker 1: were just in somewhere and everybody was smoking. I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 1: so I just had a feeling. I met with them again.
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Speaker 1: They stunt of smoke again, all three of them. Number one,
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Speaker 1: they were lying, and number two, if they were too
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Speaker 1: dumb to chew gum and change clothes, they're not smart
31:43
Speaker 1: enough to keep the children. I can't tell you that
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Speaker 1: right now. If possible, interview with a husband, partner, or friend.
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Speaker 1: They may pick up on things you don't. Oh yeah,
31:53
Speaker 1: here it does smell them. The last thing you want
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Speaker 1: is somebody that smells or reeks a pot or alcohol
31:59
Speaker 1: taking care of your your baby. Before you formerly hire them,
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Speaker 1: get that background check, don't be embarrassed. Get a nannycam.
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Speaker 1: Don't even get me started about how many people have
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Speaker 1: caught babysitters and daycare workers dragging their children around, slapping
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Speaker 1: them in the face, typically in home nanny cam's I
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Speaker 1: vote for live streaming. In daycare, nobody's listening to me.
32:25
Speaker 1: They even have live streaming where they take care of
32:28
Speaker 1: your cat and dog. Why not your baby? Try the
32:31
Speaker 1: nanny for a short while a week or so. Make
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Speaker 1: it clear it's a test run. Make sure you're nanny
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Speaker 1: nos CPR in first aid. Check the driving history. You
32:42
Speaker 1: don't want your nanny or your babysitter driving your child
32:45
Speaker 1: around when they have a driving history. As long as
32:49
Speaker 1: my left arm. Take a listen to Dominique Sasha KPRC.
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Speaker 1: Smoke pouring from a home daycare the chilling call to
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Speaker 1: nine and the daycare owner, Jessica Tata, arrested, charged and
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Speaker 1: sent to prison for eighty years after leaving a group
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Speaker 1: of children alone with a pan of grease on the
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Speaker 1: stove while she went shopping. Four of the seven children
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Speaker 1: inside that daycare died. Tiffany Dickerson had two children at
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Speaker 1: Jessica Tata's daycare on February twenty four, twenty eleven. Her
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Speaker 1: three year old son, Shamari, never made it out, but
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Speaker 1: her daughter Michaela, then two years old, survived, but was
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Speaker 1: severely burned. I pulled back the sheeting she like appealed lobster.
33:43
Speaker 1: All I saw was flesh and I was just thinking
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Speaker 1: to myself, like, I don't know how they're going to
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Speaker 1: save her legs. Michaela was rushed to Shriner's Hospital in Galveston,
33:51
Speaker 1: where Tiffany credits the medical team with saving Michaela's legs
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Speaker 1: and placing her on a path to recovery. I don't
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Speaker 1: want you to be upset. I'm getting up set just
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Speaker 1: hearing this, But what I want you to do is
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Speaker 1: take action and protect your children. I know we don't
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Speaker 1: want to think that the babysitter, of the nanny or
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Speaker 1: the daycare could be negligent. Like this woman was Tata
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Speaker 1: who actually went to Target. She wasn't even in a hurry,
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Speaker 1: according to the shop, to the salespeople, She's just taking
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Speaker 1: her time, leaving all those children at home with a
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Speaker 1: stove on and a pan of hot grease. If you
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Speaker 1: think you've heard it all, I hate to be the
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Speaker 1: one to break it to you. You haven't. Take a
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Speaker 1: list of our friends at ABCGMA this morning, a mother
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Speaker 1: is suing over troubling footage showing preschoolers taking part in
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Speaker 1: what she calls a toddler fight club. In the twenty
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Speaker 1: sixteen video, teachers are seen cheering the young children on
34:49
Speaker 1: One jumps enthusiastically while the other helps students put on
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Speaker 1: toy fists. One little boy on camera tries to break
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Speaker 1: up the fight. The incident came to light after a
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Speaker 1: ten year old boy captured this video on his iPad
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Speaker 1: showing his four year old brother allegedly being forced to
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Speaker 1: fight with another student. They're fighting, he went and had
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Speaker 1: his iPad on him that day. Who knows if we
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Speaker 1: even would have found out about this. The boy's mother,
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Speaker 1: Nicole Mercial, immediately reported the incident to the school and
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Speaker 1: to authorities, but while the two teachers seen in the
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Speaker 1: video were fired, the state did not file any criminal charges.
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Speaker 1: No one's being held accountable, and if I'm not a
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Speaker 1: voice for my children, who will be now? Mercial is
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Speaker 1: suing a daycare for more than twenty five thousand dollars
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Speaker 1: and hopes the state will reconsider filing charges. A taught
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Speaker 1: fight club led by the teachers. Don't be a victim,
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Speaker 1: and don't let your children be victims. They can't speak
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Speaker 1: for themselves. Fight back against America's Crimewaye Nancy Grace, I'm
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Speaker 1: story signing up, Goodbye friend,