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Silent Hill: Cult Town, Knife Nurses, and Pyramid Schemes - Xenomania 56 · Xenomania

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No, be afraid.
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Be very afraid.
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Jon: That triangle guy needs to be bigger than that.
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Like he,
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Ryan: that
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Jon: like he's,
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Ryan: Okay.
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Jon: yeah.
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Okay.
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Sure.
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Like, I mean, I believe it if he had some freaking biceps or
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Ryan: you, you imagine how heavy that thing is.
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You see how big that thing is?
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Kearns: He's made
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Ryan: It's like, yeah, it's like
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Jon: his head Yeah.
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he looks like a puppy whose head is too big for his body, still like
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walking around like all like drooping he's not strong enough to hold his
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own head up, let alone carry that
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Kearns: the
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Jon: weapon.
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Kearns: that are on Instagram all the time?
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The lady pyramid heads.
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Ryan: No, I have not seen the lady pyramid.
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Kearns: ton of that.
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Ryan: I,
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Jon: I haven't seen Lady Pyramid head.
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Ryan: promoting the new movie, which ladies and gentlemen we are talking about.
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Welcome to Xenomania.
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We are talking about Silent Hill tonight.
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but I saw a commercial for like.
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a mom was taking their child to see Silent Hill, and she's dressed up like
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mini pyramid head, but it was all pink.
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I was like, oh, all right.
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That's pretty cool.
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It's not as dark, but I'm like, you're, you're taking your kid to Silent Hill?
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Like, like, no, no, not at the age of five or six.
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Kearns: Yeah.
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That
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Ryan: Viewer, viewer beware.
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Jon: don't know.
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I mean, we got there by about that age, didn't we?
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Ryan: was six when the first
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Jon: Look and look at how we turned out.
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Kearns: play at like six and it demented me.
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Uh,
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Ryan: you had such a different reaction.
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I watched Puppet Master and I was fine.
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Kearns: puppet master messed with me too.
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They were always like HBO reruns of Puppet Master, but Silent Hill, we
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gotta give it some of its flowers, guys.
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It does nail the dark atmosphere pretty well, even though over the
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two hour and five minute span of the movie, they do that score in
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and they kind of lean on it a bit.
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they do nail that dark atmosphere.
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You gotta admit that.
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And that is a hallmark trait of the Silent Hill franchise in the video games.
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Jon: They get, they get some good atmosphere.
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Yes.
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Ryan, how, much too
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Ryan: two hours
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Jon: long did you say this movie was?
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Ryan: have just been five minutes.
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Um, and in re in reality, it should have been an hour and 35 minutes.
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to piggyback on, it was great.
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The atmosphere was spot on.
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I'm playing the second game on the PS five again, and it's spot on with the original.
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So seeing these locations in the movie are cool, like the hospital,
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how the other world transitions.
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I haven't seen this movie in a long time for reasons that didn't
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like it because it's inspiration.
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do it incorrectly, but that the atmosphere, the music they do feature from
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Akira, Yama Yas, uh, from the first four games, all that music's from the game.
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So that was all cool.
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Like they borrowed the story.
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Kearns: We gotta look this up, but I think that guy did parasite eve,
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Ryan: Yes, he did.
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Yep.
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Kearns: That guy's a gem man.
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Ryan: Yep.
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Yeah.
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Parasite E is a gem.
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Thank you for
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Kearns: that, I mean, I remember jacking up the, uh, gangster's Paradise volume on
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my disc, man, and playing parasite eve.
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'cause I had a copy where the final boss fight, I would get to it then it would
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glitch out when the boss transformed.
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And I was just constantly trying to make my way through that.
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So I had like, lick the disc and try to make it work and I
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Ryan: that's, that's like playing Final Fantasy seven and get it to the last disc.
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And it's like skipping,
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Kearns: That would be a
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Ryan: like, that's why I mentioned it to you.
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That's your silent Hill like horror story right there.
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Kearns: Yeah, that would be rough, dude.
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Ryan: that one,
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Kearns: rough.
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Jon: I had that happen with dying late too, the last five minutes of
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the game where you get a different storyline depending on how you played.
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I'd get to the last cut scene and it would just stop,
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Ryan: When cyberpunk first came out, it wasn't, compatible with the PS four.
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It was only compatible with the PS five, which was scarce to say.
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I waited two years to finally play cyberpunk.
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When the PS five first came out, you had to go on walmart.com, you
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had to try to like, wait online.
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What?
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Kearns: Rolling.
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We're rolling back.
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Jon: go back.
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Ryan: happened?
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Jon: We gotta, we gotta roll back to that word,
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Ryan: scarce?
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Yeah.
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PS five was scarce.
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Kearns: Like scars scarred.
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Ryan: no, scarce, like, it was like scars defined.
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Kearns: I think we, we've gotta add one to lexicon, John.
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I think, I think we just been made
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Jon: Yep.
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Kearns: word.
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Jon: We do
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Ryan: They were scars.
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Kearns: Hey, scars.
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Ryan: Scar.
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Scar,
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Kearns: is dedicated to Ryan's
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Ryan: scars.
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Kearns: The scarce.
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Ryan: Alright.
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Jon: scarce.
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Kearns: this pod is, is that when that happens, I love it so much.
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'cause John and I'll both go like this every time.
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Ryan: listen.
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I have a, I have a long list of words that are coming out to the open.
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Now.
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Kearns: Yep.
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Ryan: Just, just embrace.
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But
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Kearns: make him up.
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Jon: I, I.
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Ryan: to be or not to
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Jon: I have to tell you that it's actually, one of my favorite games is to
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find the words that people mispronounce.
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Like my mom has some gems that she can't pronounce, like cement, cement.
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It's so, or if, you call her on saying cement, she'll focus and
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it'll come out like she's like a Texas oil man, and she'll say cement
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Kearns: I have, two family members that say prostrate when
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they're talking about a prostate.
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that's always made me laugh and I'm just like, I wonder if they knew
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what it really means, like laid out.
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But anyway, silent Hill back to it.
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so we get,
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Jon: back to it.
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Kearns: the storyline for the movie.
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'cause Ryan did point out that it's, it's inspired like linked but inspired.
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Sure.
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Storyline of the movie is, rose to Silva.
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Is looking for her kid ran away.
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What's the kid's, the real kid's name again?
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Ryan: Alyssa?
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Kearns: Alyssa's the
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Jon: In.
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Kearns: though, isn't she?
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Ryan: Yeah,
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Jon: Yes.
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Sharon is the name of the kid she thinks she's looking for.
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Kearns: And so she,
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Ryan: Sure.
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Kearns: off over past like creepy Officer Gucci and whatnot, and she makes it to
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Silent Hill and, and she drags, Sybil Bennett her, who might be the best part
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of the movie, to be honest with you.
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Ryan: Ooh,
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Kearns: it's,
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Ryan: I, I have to, have to agree with it.
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Jon: Lori Holden's acting in this is, I mean, some of it's the acting, some
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of it is they saddle her with the worst stereotypical video game lines ever.
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Like,
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Ryan: It could
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Jon: just, she's just walking through Silent Hill and, and says
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Something terrible happened here.
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Ryan: No, it didn't.
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Jon: Like,
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Ryan: it's just grim for
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Jon: really like that, that, that,
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Ryan: Clean water.
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Jon: like, nineties, video game exposition, you know, where
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they don't have it quite as clear as you want it to be.
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And so you kind of have to ex, you know, be really more specific
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about how awful it is, and.
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Kearns: the first line Barry says, I think one of his first lines in Resident Evil
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Ryan knows what I'm getting at right away.
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Ryan: am trying to remember exactly how he says it.
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Kearns: a, there's a bot.
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There's, they walk into the mansion and he leans down.
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There's a puddle and he touches it, and he goes, it's blood
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Ryan: Yep.
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Kearns: like that.
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It's the best, worst voice acting of all time in that game.
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I love that game.
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Ryan: I, I played the beginning just to hear him say it over and over again.
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'cause like the best line It's blood.
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Kearns: was like groundbreaking.
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'cause it was live action people beginning Cinematics too.
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It wasn't a video game.
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They
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Ryan: Yep.
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Kearns: action stuff.
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It kind of reminded me like how Mortal Kombat did that as well.
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But anyway,
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: these guys aren't a fans of
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Jon: So
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Kearns: at all?
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Ryan: I listen.
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Yeah.
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Jon: I like Laurie Holden.
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She's, she's good.
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Ryan: Yes.
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Ryan: dead.
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Kearns: she was good in Walking Dead.
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Jon: She played her role well in Walking Dead.
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Her character got very hateable for periods of time and she did
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a really good job with that.
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Ryan: season three.
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Yeah.
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She, I hated her.
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Jon: Yeah, there was a stretch in there.
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She was pretty awful.
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I think we should just sort of rewind a little bit to the reason they actually
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go to Silent Hill and the horrible parenting decision that leads to it.
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So Sharon, the kid is having like nightmares and like sleepwalking hypnotic
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things and she, is drawn to Silent Hill.
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So instead of some form of therapy and maybe trying to get to the root of
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it that way, mom essentially kidnaps her and takes her to Silent Hill.
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Ryan: it all begins, just to get the viewers in.
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Kearns: Right.
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Get, we're
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Ryan: Yeah.
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Kearns: do some immersion therapy.
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Sure.
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Jon: Let, let's go find out what's going on in Silent Hill.
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Uh, I don't think you needed to do that.
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Kearns: let alone to like West Virginia or wherever Silent Hill is.
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Jon: Well, West Virginia.
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No.
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Ryan: nice,
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Jon: you.
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Ryan: homage to the game because that's how each game starts.
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The first one, kidnapping, second one, you
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Ryan: of disappearance, third one, kidnapping,
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Ryan: you know?
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Kearns: hard with the noir in the beginning of it.
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With
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Ryan: God.
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Yeah.
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Kearns: that.
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Yeah,
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Ryan: It's that mystery.
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Like I, you know, you think about it, you play the second game and it opens and.
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you're on the bridge, the connection to Silent Hill, and you kinda see the whole
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town for what it is and like the light.
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And then once you go in, you're entering the fog and know, it gives you, again,
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as we're talking about the atmosphere, it gives you that from when she's
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taken Sharon to Silent Hill, which, Chris played excellently by Sean Bean.
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Sean Bean.
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Kearns: yeah.
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Sean
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Ryan: he refused.
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Yeah, he refuses, rose from doing all this.
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And he's really unaware of it until like, I think it's like a last minute.
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Find out when he's like, don't,
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Jon: Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He realizes that, she's gone and where she's going and like in the
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like ultimate kind of like, I'm gonna stop you from doing anything.
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He cancels all their credit cards.
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Kearns: move.
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Ryan: Home alone.
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Move.
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Kearns: clever move, uh, doesn't stop her.
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Well, silent Hill doesn't let her stop.
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That's basically the
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Ryan: No.
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Kearns: this movie, is
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Jon: No,
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Kearns: what
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Jon: no.
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Yeah, it, it, it's almost like Rose is as drawn to Silent Hill as Sharon is.
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Kearns: I
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Ryan: Yeah,
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Kearns: so.
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Ryan: mean, that's the process of like the actual character as it, the
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story progresses and reveals that,
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Ryan: mean, in the games, like they're all sinners.
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Um, with Rose, I mean, it's a, it's 50 50.
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I mean, I have my opinion, I
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Jon: You guys wanna play a game,
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Ryan: You said it's twisted today.
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It's like,
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Kearns: it
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Ryan: is it body parts
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Kearns: We're screwed, Ryan.
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Jon: It's a game we've played.
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It's a keep cut it, it's a keep cut.
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Ryan: listen to my
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Jon: It is.
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However,
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Kearns: Dare
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Ryan: films.
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Jon: oh.
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I am going beyond your advice tonight.
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We are playing keeper cut.
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But you are keeping six of these heaping piles.
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And you can only cut two.
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You can only cut
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Kearns: I am
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Jon: two.
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Ryan: flipping everything.
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Kearns: I've never seen House of the
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Ryan: Wait, you've never seen House of the Dead.
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It's, it's,
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Kearns: of the Dead.
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Ryan: mean, bad,
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Jon: so bad.
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Ryan: on what you have on the list, it could be like the best
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out of all these movies though.
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That's like the, 50 50.
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'cause yeah, this isn't a favorite of mine, but I, I'm keeping this one.
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'cause you know what?
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I'm gonna keep this one.
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Jon: Remember, you can only cut two.
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Kearns: us with that.
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I feel like you're priming us with that, we're gonna end up having to cut
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the last two because we're too scared.
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Uh, yeah, evil John.
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All right.
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I'm gonna keep it based on the fact that I have no idea either
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way and the cover's kind of cool.
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Ryan: it's a cool
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Jon: I actually kind of, I kind of like the second one.
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The first one's not very good,
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Ryan: I mean,
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Jon: but
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Ryan: the first one have the, that first person seen in it, right?
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Jon: yeah, I think so.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Movie number two.
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Kearns: Oh,
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Ryan: Is that the first one?
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Kearns: oh, I've seen this.
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Ryan: I've,
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Jon: That is the first one.
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Ryan: uh,
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Kearns: Ben Kinsley Lee.
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Jon: What did you do, Ben?
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Kearns: um, all the leotards and the tight leather and he was like, I signed me up.
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I'm tired.
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This Gandhi nonsense.
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He
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Jon: I need some cash.
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Kearns: did.
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Um, I mean this movie's awesome, but Enders, um,
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Ryan: under game.
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Yep.
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Kearns: stuff.
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Like he's in some interesting roles throughout his career
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Ryan: Lucky number seven.
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Hey, he's a really good actor.
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Kearns: Uh, he was in Ironman three.
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Ryan: That that's,
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Kearns: yeah, I forget.
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He's part of the MCU.
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Jon: Oh yeah.
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He was, wasn't.
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Ryan: He should have been the Mandarin.
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He should have been the Mandarin.
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They set it up so great.
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And then we got Guy Pierce,
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Kearns: yeah, they made him into like this actor thing.
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Um, I'm gonna,
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Jon: Wait a minute.
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Hold on.
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He should have been the what?
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Ryan: with the Mandarin and the 10 rings.
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You gotta know that story from,
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Jon: Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I lost you for a second there.
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I thought, I thought we had another Ryan.
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Kearns: Rodriguez is in this.
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Dear God, what have we done People, um, I'm gonna keep it obviously.
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Jon: This,
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Ryan: all, these are all movies based on video games.
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Of course.
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Uh, but the question is, is it all horror related or is it everything?
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Jon: they are all horror related video game adaptations.
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Ryan: blood rate.
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Kearns: get,
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Ryan: Yeah,
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Kearns: cut out of just spite
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Ryan: I was thinking about rewatching the first one.
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Jon: Alright.
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Wait, current Kern, you're, you're keeping this or cutting this?
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Kearns: 'cause I, there's some duds coming up.
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Jon: All right.
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Kearns: it.
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Ryan: I'm keeping it too.
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I do like blood rate.
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This
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Jon: Okay.
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Ryan: it's somewhat true.
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Somewhat.
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Kearns: I remember dumping like $20 rolls a quarters into a House of the Dead
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all those years ago.
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Okay, here we go.
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Blood rain.
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Jon: All right.
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Movie number three,
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alone in the Dock.
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Kearns: Ah, look at
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Jon: Wow.
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Ryan: It's, I they that no justice for the game series.
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Not even for the original.
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Kearns: because I have a pretty good idea of at least two of the ones coming up.
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Steven Dorf is in this.
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I'm keeping it just based on the fact that Christian Slater, Tara Reed
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and Stephen Dorf are in this movie.
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Oh, man,
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Jon: So Kerns is kept all three and you've cut one.
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You only have one cut left.
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Will it be used on
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Kearns: no, I love this movie.
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Sorry.
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movie kicks ass.
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That first person scene when it switches to first person perspective and he is
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cruising through, murdering everybody.
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No, I'm definitely keeping to him.
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Ryan: There could be worse films on this.
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I'll take two.
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It's not my favorite.
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The first person scene is cool with the music rocking.
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I do love that scene.
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Kearns: saw this movie.
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This was a hot box movie too, so I probably saw this movie like a
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hundred times and this came out right before Doom three or, or after.
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It was like
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Ryan: Yes.
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Kearns: 'cause they had the new ips in it and stuff that were
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just the same as the video game.
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I gotta do
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Ryan: Do
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Kearns: I've gotta
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Jon: All right.
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Kearns: two now.
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Now
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Ryan: four.
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Jon: You well?
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No.
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We had, there's, there's four left.
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You have to cut two of the last four
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next.
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Ryan: Hmm.
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Kearns: cut.
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Jon: Ooh, a cut.
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Kearns: movie was as forgettable as Dead Rising, the video game,
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Ryan: Yeah.
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Jon: I wanted to love the video games so much just because of the premise
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Ryan: no.
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The is if the camera, like taking the photos and stuff and it's a,
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Kearns: streaming free June 25th.
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Yeah, they were really, we're looking to break in the cash with this one.
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Yeah.
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Jon: Crackle.
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Ryan: I'll keep it, I'll give it a shot.
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Kearns: Aw.
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Ryan: It's a pity.
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It's a pity.
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Like, but I'll give it, I do like the first game.
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I don't like the timer on it.
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if you do mess up the whole game fails.
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Basically, like reality, you can either save the people or like you have fun.
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Jon: All right, next.
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Ryan: I am cutting it.
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Cutting it, cutting it.
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Jon: Oh.
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Kearns: though, because you know there's two after this.
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Ryan: I'll keep the two after.
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Kearns: something terrible.
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This movie's awful.
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Ryan: the two after.
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Kearns: is it?
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This is the one with like souped up steroid wesker too.
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And
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Ryan: Yep.
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Kearns: they're like soup fighting.
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Ryan: Yep.
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This is the one in the rain.
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Kearns: I should not have cut
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yet.
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I have to cut this too.
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This is the P. This is the worst disappointment in a
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series of disappointments.
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This one takes the cake.
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Jon: You guys are actually gonna be happy with how this played out.
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Kearns: Oh,
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Jon: so disappointed.
18:49
Next, next video game adaptation.
18:53
Ryan: Yeah.
18:53
Bring it to me.
18:54
Kearns: one episode.
18:55
I'm cool with it.
18:56
Ryan: In the first season.
18:57
Yes.
18:58
The second season I haven't seen, but I know they, fall flat on it.
19:03
Kearns: We stopped watching.
19:05
Ryan: Uh, after,
19:06
Kearns: that we do that.
19:07
Jon: I,
19:08
Ryan: it's, after I heard how they opened it.
19:10
Jon: I never started,
19:11
Ryan: started, you should watch the first season.
19:13
Kearns: but it also,
19:14
Jon: I never started.
19:17
This was always sort of the lesser of two games for me.
19:21
Ryan: did you, uh, play the game when it first came out on BS three?
19:26
Jon: No, I played the game maybe like three or so years ago.
19:31
Ryan: no resonation, uh, no clicking.
19:35
Jon: No.
19:37
Ryan: Wow.
19:37
I,
19:37
Jon: No, it just wasn't it, it didn't hit me.
19:42
It didn't hit for me.
19:43
It was
19:44
Ryan: So
19:45
Kearns: minute tutorial you have to do in the beginning, which sucks.
19:49
Ryan: action packed.
19:50
Jon: well,
19:51
Ryan: with that.
19:52
Kearns: I was like, is this metal gear solid or is this a zombie?
19:54
What am I doing here?
19:57
Jon: yeah, there it, there was that.
20:00
It was also like the not open world like I want, I would've liked that
20:06
and I think it came out about the same time as days gone and I love
20:11
days gone and this was not days gone.
20:16
Ryan: Did it come out?
20:16
No.
20:17
Days Gone.
20:18
Came out a couple years later after the remaster.
20:23
Because they had it on PS three at the end, and then they re re-released
20:27
it for the PS four, and then two years later they released, days Gone.
20:30
'cause I pre-ordered, days gone.
20:32
I was very excited for that game.
20:34
Jon: Listen, listen.
20:35
in the way that I play video games, two years is about the same time,
20:39
Ryan: I'm in that boat too.
20:40
It takes like two months for me to finish a game.
20:43
I understand
20:44
Kearns: Now I just play games that
20:45
Jon: months.
20:46
Kearns: and I just buy like one thing every two, three years I think I've been
20:50
Ryan: our graders.
20:52
Kearns: Raiders, night Rain, and Claire I'll, I'll play, uh, Claire
20:55
obscure Expedition 33 soon because it's just such a beautiful story.
21:00
But other than that, I've no interest in buying anything.
21:03
Ryan: I am stuck with the rock people, my friend in that game because I gave
21:07
too much power to a specific character that something bad will happen to
21:12
them supposedly as it was spoiled.
21:16
I'm very not happy.
21:17
I put all points in that character.
21:19
That's all I'm gonna say.
21:21
Kearns: Well, I think all characters are an experience, parallel, don't they?
21:29
Ryan: Yes.
21:31
Kearns: I think you're
21:31
Ryan: I, I hope, I dunno, I'm in the rock level right now.
21:35
That's another game.
21:36
You should give a try, John.
21:37
It's a fun game too.
21:38
A clear obscure
21:39
Jon: is it?
21:42
Oh yeah, it's on my list.
21:44
Ryan: for writing.
21:45
Kearns: It's beautiful.
21:47
Jon: on my list, like TV shows, video games, and TV shows sort of end up the
21:51
same way except I finished video games.
21:54
Ryan: Yeah.
21:55
That is good.
21:56
Kearns: The suspense is killing me, by the way.
21:57
Gotta know what's coming up next.
21:59
'cause I
21:59
Ryan: It's fallout.
22:00
Fallout.
22:02
Kearns: Oh hell
22:03
Jon: Nope.
22:04
Kearns: hell yes.
22:05
You right though.
22:05
This was me and you're a dick.
22:07
'cause you were trying to get us to cut this.
22:09
This is the masterpiece.
22:11
Jon: I was desperately, desperately trying to get you
22:15
guys to cut the last of us and or
22:17
Kearns: the
22:17
Jon: Sylvania.
22:18
Ryan: Goodnight everybody.
22:20
Jon: I so badly wanted that.
22:23
Ryan: Knock turn.
22:23
Kearns: Yeah, no
22:24
Ryan: Knock.
22:24
Turn's really good.
22:26
Kearns: I was like, what the hell is going on?
22:28
Netflix is pumping out a freaking gem with this.
22:32
Ryan: I want to see where they lead for the second season.
22:35
'cause there's a rumor they're gonna, yeah, because like it ended, but
22:38
there's so much more they can cover with Richter and that whole story.
22:43
what was a car doing during that time?
22:45
That's another you gotta, I know you're not to animate
22:47
John, but Sylvania, so good.
22:51
Kearns: call it Sylvania and anime.
22:52
It doesn't follow any anime tropes.
22:54
It's just animated
22:56
Ryan: Animated.
22:57
Yeah,
22:57
Kearns: style, I suppose, but
23:01
Jon: You guys, saw the number of anime movies that are in my collection.
23:04
What was it, five, eight?
23:06
Something like that?
23:07
Ryan: a, Kara should be what
23:08
Kearns: Oh,
23:09
Ryan: you
23:09
Jon: No.
23:09
Ryan: a Kara
23:11
Jon: No.
23:12
I don't even, I don't even know.
23:13
I don't even remember if they were all actually anime.
23:17
Like I feel like some of 'em were just, no,
23:19
Kearns: That's what we're dealing with
23:20
Jon: no.
23:21
No, I don't have that either.
23:23
Ryan: It the last rainforest.
23:25
Kearns: by Robin Williams on there.
23:27
Damn.
23:29
That movie goes hard in the
23:30
Jon: Nope.
23:30
Kearns: last 35 minutes.
23:32
I forget the name of the villain, but he is like a smog monster.
23:34
He is like all sludgy.
23:36
He's like the dude who tries to kill Captain Planet.
23:38
That's the guy.
23:40
He's the best.
23:43
That's the best.
23:44
Um, sorry, my cat is either seeing ghosts or has, has like
23:50
the craziest, uh, zoomies ever.
23:54
Ryan: It's the other world.
23:55
Kearns: She's chasing her tail.
23:57
Ryan: other world's coming for you.
23:58
Kearns: this one's a crack head man.
24:00
She's been up, she's been, yeah, she's like staring all around the
24:03
room, like something's flying, but there's nothing flying.
24:06
This is, this is
24:08
Jon: Oh yeah.
24:09
Kearns: Yep.
24:10
Jon: The kitty freak out.
24:11
Kearns: Yeah.
24:12
She's like exploring everywhere.
24:13
She's out of her
24:14
Ryan: catnip?
24:15
much catnip?
24:16
Kearns: was, that was a fun
24:17
Jon: I.
24:17
Kearns: cut because we didn't get screwed over, so thank you.
24:19
Ryan: No, for once.
24:21
I don't like, went exactly the way I wanted it.
24:26
Jon: I am gonna have to up the ante.
24:27
Ryan: can, you could cut.
24:29
Cut one.
24:29
Keep seven.
24:32
Kearns: Yeah,
24:33
Jon: Yeah, that's, see, I should have made it cut six, keep two.
24:40
Ryan: Oh, that.
24:41
So I recommended the keep three, cut five to him.
24:46
So I kind of
24:47
Jon: Mm-hmm.
24:48
Ryan: one.
24:48
Kearns: John, if you do that, I'm calling the cops.
24:51
Ryan: for it.
24:52
Not the
24:53
Jon: Well, I was gonna originally just make them all really bad adaptation
24:58
movies and I was like, wait a minute, let's see if I can get 'em to cut.
25:02
Let me see if I can get 'em to cut things that they actually liked.
25:05
Ryan: on there.
25:06
All right.
25:06
Kearns: a terrible movie.
25:07
Ryan: Stack.
25:08
Kearns: That is a terrible movie.
25:10
Jon: It's horror adjacent.
25:11
Kearns: suppose if even it's an action movie, is it not?
25:15
I.
25:16
Ryan: Action horror
25:17
Jon: Yeah.
25:18
Kearns: like
25:18
Ryan: side by,
25:19
Jon: Yeah, you can.
25:20
Kearns: VER movies?
25:22
Jon: Yeah.
25:22
Mm-hmm.
25:24
Kearns: just 'cause there's monsters.
25:25
They're
25:26
Jon: Yeah.
25:26
Kearns: that are kung fu fighting.
25:27
It's an action movie.
25:29
Jon: Mm-hmm.
25:30
People who call Godzilla horror are
25:32
Ryan: tell
25:32
Jon: wrong too.
25:33
Kearns: the argument, oh, I like this.
25:35
Now we're gonna get spicy and we're never gonna talk about Silent Hill ever again.
25:38
Godzilla, minus one was trying, at the very least to lean heavily
25:44
into the horror genre, especially with the, the pre mutated version.
25:49
he's like T-Rex them from Jurassic Park in that scene.
25:53
They were really trying to make that as scary as possible
25:56
Jon: Yeah.
25:56
Kearns: a Godzilla movie.
25:57
Yeah.
25:59
Jon: Yeah.
26:01
Godzilla is an animal attack genre movie.
26:04
Kearns: genre.
26:04
Ryan: Yeah,
26:05
Kearns: What about the one host?
26:06
Did you ever see the Korean movie host?
26:08
Where that one Is that horror?
26:11
No.
26:13
Ne ne Okay.
26:15
Jon: Animal attack.
26:16
Kearns: Jaws.
26:21
Jon: I keep jaws in my animal attack section, but,
26:26
Ryan: is under
26:26
Jon: uh, jaws hits a lot of the horror beats,
26:30
Kearns: you because you're, you keep just getting it right, so, okay.
26:34
It's
26:34
Ryan: Like,
26:35
Kearns: animal attack.
26:36
is Kaiju then though?
26:37
Is kaiju a a port?
26:39
It's like a sub facet of animal attack.
26:41
Jon: yeah, yeah,
26:43
Kearns: fun now.
26:45
Ryan: So yeah, king con's, animal attack.
26:48
Alright.
26:49
Kearns: Okay's.
26:51
Jon: Black sheep is animal attacks.
26:53
Ryan: How do you get into Werewolf's though?
26:56
Kearns: Yeah.
26:57
Jon: OLS are hard because they're.
27:00
Kearns: Is
27:00
Jon: They're just naturally horror.
27:02
Ryan: Yes.
27:03
Kearns: Yeah.
27:03
It's a different than just a
27:04
Jon: Yeah, yeah.
27:06
That they, yeah.
27:07
And the, the difference in the animal attack and the horror is like a fine line.
27:13
You know it when you see it.
27:14
It's like the, Supreme Court ruling on adult movies and censorship.
27:21
You can't define it, you just know it when you see it.
27:26
Oh, I think that predated Harry Flint.
27:29
Uh, Harry Flint.
27:30
Larry Flint.
27:30
Now you have me calling the wrong name.
27:35
Kearns: Harry
27:35
Ryan: Larry.
27:35
Kearns: the name of one of those, those obscene movies we're talking about,
27:41
Jon: Yeah.
27:41
Ryan: on Fletch, but it's just Harry Flint.
27:44
Kearns: Harry.
27:46
Jon: Mm-hmm.
27:46
Ryan: Oh God.
27:47
Kearns: like the most educational 10 minutes of my day.
27:49
Thank you for that.
27:50
That was pretty good.
27:51
Uh, we do have to get back to Silent Hill though, or else it's false advertising,
27:55
Ryan: Yeah.
27:55
Jon: to Silent Hill.
27:56
Kearns: Um, so
27:58
Jon: Fake news.
27:59
Kearns: we're in Silent Hill and
28:01
Ryan: Yep,
28:02
Kearns: is now looking around with, with very skeptical Sybil cop Bennett
28:06
looking around for Sharon and they
28:08
Ryan: yep.
28:08
Kearns: notice things are not okay here.
28:11
So we're not gonna do a plot walkthrough with this one 'cause
28:14
uh, it'll drive you guys crazy.
28:16
but we can kind of like jump to from part to part if a little bit.
28:20
Ryan: Yeah.
28:20
Kearns: the beginning
28:21
Jon: Yeah.
28:22
I,
28:22
Kearns: to like the middle-ish of the movie.
28:25
Jon: yeah, they realize that something's not right when they
28:28
try to get back to the car and the cop bike and there's no more road.
28:34
Kearns: It's just gone,
28:35
Ryan: It disappears.
28:37
It's like
28:37
Jon: Mm-hmm.
28:39
And mean.
28:40
Meanwhile, Sean Bean and another cop are wandering around an un smoky,
28:46
silent hill trying to find them.
28:48
Kearns: the, the first upside down
28:52
Ryan: Yep.
28:52
Kearns: Hill itself does a good job with that.
28:54
I was thinking about that when we were getting ready for the pod and
28:57
I was like, Hmm, do I bring this
28:59
Ryan: Yeah.
28:59
Kearns: But it's true.
28:59
'cause Stranger Things is so fresh.
29:01
It is very much so like the upside down.
29:03
Like they're in another dimension and obviously that predates all
29:07
Jon: Mm-hmm.
29:07
Kearns: King loves to do that, but it's very on the nose, like,
29:11
Ryan: It's interesting because they don't cover that in the video
29:14
games, how it's two other worlds.
29:16
Because once you're in Silent Hill, you kind of get that idea
29:19
as like you can go in, but once you're in, you're not getting out.
29:23
It's like that.
29:25
It's a version of purgatory, like a dark version of purgatory
29:28
where you can get harmed.
29:30
mean though, I feel like with purgatory though, you, you're
29:33
like walking aimlessly all over.
29:35
Yeah, you're definitely safe with this.
29:36
You're not safe.
29:38
Kearns: purgatory, being cleansed,
29:41
Ryan: I wouldn't wanna be cleansed.
29:43
Kearns: Purgatory.
29:44
You're like, close, but you're not quite ready.
29:46
So we're gonna, clean you out for a little while, and you're
29:48
Ryan: Say
29:49
Kearns: that.
29:49
So,
29:49
Ryan: it's a horrible cleanse.
29:51
Kearns: getting rid of your grief or you're offloading emotions or past deeds,
29:54
silent Hill actually could be a purgatory.
29:57
It's just not what you think of when you think of purgatory.
30:00
'cause the
30:01
Ryan: But
30:01
Kearns: is horrific.
30:04
Ryan: yes, uh, I definitely agree.
30:06
But it's interesting to know that as all this is going on, there's one
30:10
person who's wandering these streets, outcast, ridden over negligence for
30:16
her daughter, and that's Dahlia, like she's survived this whole thing.
30:21
And just to add onto it, we got like a cult going on in the background.
30:25
it's the order in the video games.
30:28
I think it's called the order in the movies too.
30:30
I don't remember them giving 'em their name, they, you know, they're,
30:35
Kearns: Ella's haircut, though.
30:36
Ryan: my God.
30:37
I saw that and I was like, what the hell's going on
30:40
Kearns: her.
30:41
Ryan: across the, the clown.
30:42
Kearns: Yeah, babe.
30:43
So sideshow Bob, maybe.
30:44
I don't know.
30:45
But yeah, she's easy to hate.
30:47
she does the cult culty, uh, roll.
30:49
Well, 'cause you gotta hate the culty.
30:51
Jon: Mm-hmm.
30:51
Kearns: hating her.
30:52
It's
30:52
Jon: Mm-hmm.
30:53
Kearns: also, they throw Dalia in there.
30:56
for you not to know that she's like the original, it's like
31:00
sort of like the original sinner, original persecuted as well.
31:04
I it, that makes the ending hit pretty well.
31:08
Nope.
31:08
John's gonna agree to disagree on that one.
31:13
Jon: I mean, I don't think anything in this necessarily hit really well.
31:18
But I mean, yeah, she makes the ending better.
31:22
Ryan: it's the music, the atmosphere, like the, the creatures.
31:27
Like
31:28
Jon: I mean,
31:28
Ryan: really gets you as a fan to like wanna watch the film.
31:32
But then you're watching the story and you're like,
31:34
Jon: mm-hmm.
31:34
Ryan: did we do here?
31:36
Jon: Mm-hmm.
31:37
Well, and I think Ryan said early on about cutting two hours from this movie,
31:44
you don't have to, as much as I like Sean Bean, you could have cut him entirely out
31:49
and save that for a whole other movie.
31:52
Kearns: do.
31:52
I thought they were trying to set up.
31:54
The second one was Sean Bean coming in.
31:56
Kind of
31:57
Jon: Mm-hmm.
31:58
Ryan: yeah.
31:58
Kearns: no, I,
32:00
Jon: Mm-hmm.
32:00
Kearns: like this one didn't make money either.
32:02
Jon: No,
32:02
Kearns: a decent haul that
32:05
Jon: they made a sequel.
32:06
I don't remember the sequel at all, but they did make a sequel.
32:10
Ryan: It's more like three, it with two, which you can't do it because
32:17
each game is all about a certain person's guilt, a certain person's
32:21
sin and what they've been through.
32:23
And it's all different.
32:25
And that's why like the first game is so unique.
32:28
'cause it's this man who's, um, it was like basically Sean Be's
32:33
character was supposed to be Harry.
32:35
From the first game, they make him Chris in this movie, and
32:38
he's supposed to be fighting his daughter, not his wife and daughter.
32:42
So, I mean, they're borrowing stuff like we've been saying,
32:45
they're borrowing stuff.
32:45
But it just, it doesn't, uh, I, I don't think it works.
32:50
It, it works in one way for being a different interpretation, but trying
32:53
to stay true to the story, which a lot of monitoring, uh, video game, film
32:58
and television adaptations have done.
33:00
works better because you can attract more people, but changing a little
33:04
things here and there, it's all right as long as it goes with the story.
33:07
This, I, I feel like they, if you're getting Sean Bean, put him as the
33:11
main actor, put him in Silent Hill, like, don't let him be like on the
33:16
side with, like, Kim Coates is a great actor, and I like that buildup.
33:20
But again, saying that you can include that in the town,
33:24
give it more of a mystique.
33:26
Have him, or even for Rose, meet other characters in the town who are
33:30
going through similar experiences.
33:32
Because these characters like go after the protagonist in the game,
33:36
and you don't really see that.
33:37
You just see the cult.
33:38
You see Dahlia and the
33:40
Jon: Hmm
33:41
Ryan: but there's so much more to
33:43
Jon: mm-hmm.
33:43
Ryan: town, ironically.
33:47
Jon: Now, that said, if they had made this movie focused on Sean
33:50
Bean's, Chris character, you wouldn't get Kern's favorite line.
33:55
Kearns: God in the eyes of a child, probably the best
33:58
part of this movie, to be
34:00
Jon: because
34:00
Kearns: It's a banger line.
34:01
Jon: yeah.
34:02
Father is God, in the eyes of a child, doesn't work as well.
34:05
Kearns: all pagan at heart.
34:07
We, worship the mother goddess.
34:09
It's true.
34:10
Deep down in ourselves.
34:12
All of us, Anglican people, folk.
34:15
It's in our DNA.
34:18
Did I say Anglican?
34:18
I meant
34:19
Jon: Mm-hmm.
34:20
Ryan: it is.
34:20
All right.
34:21
Lexicon.
34:22
Kearns: Cut it
34:22
Jon: You did, ah,
34:23
Kearns: Anglican is at least a real
34:25
Jon: the Kerns dictionary
34:28
Ryan: It is scarce.
34:30
Kearns: but
34:31
Jon: scarred.
34:32
Kearns: movie, moves from the murky middle, where we do get the scaries.
34:36
We get the cult, we do get pyramid head.
34:38
We get some, some pretty metal scenes.
34:40
The ripping of the skin.
34:42
Ryan: Yeah, that
34:43
Jon: I,
34:43
Ryan: cool.
34:44
Jon: well, the, Anna death scene could have been really special.
34:50
But the CGI is so bad.
34:52
Like if you watch, you can see her skin rippling bef when he is just holding
34:58
her and it does fall into that period of time, like in the mid like aughts where
35:05
Kearns: 2006.
35:07
Jon: had gaps that it like, that are just weird to see now.
35:11
Like that, was also a period where fire, CGI effects were awful.
35:16
Kearns: try to go back and watch Independence Day?
35:19
Oof.
35:20
The fire and stuff hits because they didn't do
35:22
Jon: Mm-hmm.
35:23
Kearns: for that, but the UFO scenes and
35:25
Jon: Yeah.
35:26
Ryan: It looks 10 times better in a theater.
35:28
I will say that 10 times better.
35:33
Jon: So back in the day of flea markets and bootleg VHS tapes, I
35:40
got a copy of Independence Day.
35:43
That didn't have the CGI in it, it just had like the outlines
35:48
of where the CGI was gonna be.
35:50
Ryan: Yep.
35:50
Jon: It was.
35:51
Kearns: one of those for Wolverine.
35:52
Dead, uh, no, uh,
35:54
Ryan: Expand origins.
35:55
Kearns: X-Men origins.
35:56
Ryan: Yep.
35:57
Kearns: the entire outline of the nuclear silo or like the nuclear cooling tower was
36:02
Jon: Mm-hmm.
36:02
Kearns: in yet.
36:03
Yeah.
36:04
Jon: It's amazing how, many of those actually hit those,
36:09
bootleg crappy VHS tapes.
36:11
I only got that, and the copy of Cool Runnings I bought was just static.
36:17
Kearns: That
36:17
Jon: I was so disappointed.
36:19
Kearns: hell.
36:20
That's a mean thing to do.
36:21
I
36:22
Jon: Yeah.
36:23
Kearns: I
36:23
Jon: You sir,
36:24
Kearns: punishment for
36:25
Jon: can go straight.
36:27
Kearns: from cool runnings a pool leg.
36:30
Jon: Mm-hmm.
36:30
Ryan: not right though.
36:31
Static.
36:31
Kearns: take your medicine on that, but that other dude
36:34
sinned way worse than you did.
36:37
Jon: Mm-hmm.
36:39
Yeah.
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I mean, listen, I was making slightly above minimum wage working over
36:44
a night in a department store.
36:46
Kearns: criticizing him.
36:49
Jon: I had to acquire things, how I could acquire them.
36:52
Kearns: my scrambler box too, but I, I remember pirating stuff being
36:55
like, I can't wait till I have money so I can actually pay for things.
36:58
Like, it's not like I didn't want to, I just wasn't
37:00
Jon: Yeah,
37:00
Kearns: I wasn't going to not
37:01
Jon: yeah,
37:02
Kearns: 'cause I was poor.
37:05
Jon: yeah.
37:06
Like this house is proof that once I got money, I was gonna buy things.
37:10
Kearns: my friend.
37:12
So, you know, always a funny aside from the, little research into the characters,
37:16
'cause I forgot all the actors' names and stuff except for Sean Bean.
37:19
going into the movie I was like, huh, take a look at all the people cast as the
37:24
nurses for when she's going through the little, gauntlet of nurses with knives.
37:28
It's basically the Dallas Cowboys, cheerleaders.
37:31
Like you
37:32
Ryan: It is.
37:32
Kearns: head shots, they all fit the archetype.
37:34
It's so funny.
37:36
It's like a bunch of hot girls basically.
37:39
And I mean, when
37:40
Ryan: Yeah.
37:40
Kearns: the nurses look like, obviously that makes sense.
37:42
They needed that type of person.
37:44
But you just look at it and you're
37:45
Ryan: Oh yeah.
37:46
Kearns: every
37:46
Jon: Yeah.
37:47
Oh yeah.
37:47
Yeah.
37:48
Kearns: Candy or a Sandy.
37:50
Ryan: But that's what, you know, brings the viewer in, is that the attractiveness?
37:54
Right.
37:54
And then they turn around, their skin's pale, they got bandages all
37:59
over their face, the knives coming out.
38:01
They're all distorted.
38:02
Kearns: Those
38:03
Ryan: Just,
38:03
Kearns: too.
38:04
Ryan: oh, I,
38:05
Kearns: ones of those.
38:06
Ryan: nurse is one of my favorite outfits of any like.
38:09
Horror video game because it's just that creepy aesthetic.
38:12
It's the same thing like,
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Kearns: it.
38:14
Ryan: well, uh, I wasn't, I wasn't going anywhere else.
38:17
It's like the whole mannequin thing too, like, you know,
38:21
Kearns: Eh,
38:21
Ryan: well, have you seen the mannequins with two legs?
38:24
Kearns: Kim.
38:24
Catrell.
38:25
I get it.
38:26
I get it.
38:28
We
38:28
Ryan: She was not, she wasn't
38:29
Kearns: to CI am
38:29
Ryan: in there.
38:30
Jon: Yeah.
38:32
That was a weird period of time where they, kind of sexualized
38:35
a mannequin, wasn't it?
38:37
Kearns: period of time.
38:38
Charlie,
38:39
Jon: that was a little weird.
38:40
Kearns: down through the mall.
38:41
He will stop and wave and say hello to every mannequin.
38:45
Everyone now it's just like a game he plays.
38:47
But
38:47
Jon: fair.
38:47
Kearns: he was little, he was like
38:49
Ryan: you need to show him mannequin now.
38:51
Just show mannequin.
38:52
Kearns: I
38:53
Ryan: He'll be like, wait,
38:54
Kearns: anything but just Charlie's toys at this point.
38:58
Ryan: they come alive at night, Charlie.
38:59
It's okay.
39:01
Sorry.
39:04
Jon: And you can fall in love with it.
39:05
Kearns: of the most banger songs ever play at the ending credits weekend.
39:14
Jon: we should spin off Xenomania into like those crappy eighties comedies.
39:21
Ryan: good
39:21
Kearns: Dundee two.
39:24
Ryan: that's, oh, okay.
39:26
I was gonna say that's not, it's not as bad,
39:29
Kearns: Just the scene in the bar where he recruits all the gang members
39:32
and they're like, you're Australian.
39:33
We like you.
39:34
Jon: And, we could talk about how dated they all are, like
39:37
Ryan: oh
39:38
Jon: man.
39:38
Ryan: Yep.
39:39
I,
39:39
Kearns: gonna put this in our back pockets for later.
39:40
This is a, this is a gold mine, uh, back to the movie.
39:44
Let's get to the, climax, if you will, and then,
39:49
Ryan: if you will.
39:50
Kearns: more to explore.
39:51
You guys hated it.
39:53
Jon: It's a, it's a, it's a painful
39:55
Kearns: is.
39:55
There's a little homage to Evil Dead in there, but
39:58
Jon: More ways than one.
39:59
Kearns: tree Vines in this one.
40:01
Ryan: I mean,
40:01
Jon: Yeah.
40:02
I think I'd take the tree vines over the barbed wire.
40:05
Kearns: that done to her or
40:07
Ryan: yeah.
40:07
Kearns: tortured because she sucked.
40:10
like, it,
40:10
Jon: Yeah.
40:11
Kearns: was pretty,
40:11
Jon: Yeah.
40:11
She sucked.
40:12
Kearns: heavy in the paint with some of the punishments because that's a big,
40:15
core tenet of the film is these people are being punished for being shitty people.
40:20
Ryan: so basically the order gets what's coming to them because they
40:24
falsely sacrifice Alyssa because of something that happened to her that
40:28
she didn't have any control over.
40:30
And that's what Silent Hill does, is Silent Hill will grab you
40:33
by the jugular and rip it out.
40:35
It's not like resin of, or it's not alone in the dark where
40:39
it's these night creatures.
40:42
It's not even phantasmagoria and you're fighting ghosts.
40:45
All right?
40:46
This is like, this is like, oh man, I love but it goes right from the
40:51
throat and Silent Hill is, it's a dark game and they feature that right?
40:55
But the ending where Christella gets destroyed by the barbed
40:59
wire is a satisfying death.
41:01
It is a satisfying death in any horror film we've seen.
41:05
I'll be real.
41:06
The only thing that gave me a tear was the alligator
41:09
Jon: I think
41:09
Ryan: That, that I shed a tear for that.
41:15
Jon: yeah, rest in peace, alligator.
41:20
Kearns: All alligators are heroes After having watched and reviewed
41:22
alligator with you guys and watching the scene where he goes to the party
41:27
and hunts down his foes like a G, but I
41:33
Jon: That alligator is the best.
41:35
So before we tell people what we think of the movie, do you want to hear
41:39
what a few other people thought of it?
41:41
Kearns: I mean,
41:42
Jon: Okay.
41:44
I have a five star, wasn't as hard to find as I thought it would be.
41:48
Kearns: movie.
41:49
Jon: Five stars.
41:51
Ryan: I'm going to, I'm jumping on
41:52
Jon: Five stars.
41:53
Ryan: This is not a five star.
41:54
Like usually when you're like, uh, yeah.
41:56
Kearns: I
41:57
Ryan: Yeah.
41:57
Kearns: stars until, unless it's like one of the greatest of all time.
41:59
That's what Five Stars is reserved for.
42:01
Or the Blue Star.
42:02
Remember
42:02
Jon: Well
42:03
Ryan: no, we're still doing the Blue Star.
42:05
Jon: clear.
42:07
Yeah, clearly this person believes that this is one of
42:10
the best movies of all time.
42:12
I love the Silent Hill movie.
42:14
It gives you the perfect mix of horror, vibes and mystery that keeps you hooked.
42:20
Silent Hill is one of my favorite horror movies.
42:23
It delivers chilling, horror vibes mixed with an eerie mystery that
42:28
pulls you in from start to finish.
42:31
If you enjoy atmosphere and suspense as much as scares.
42:35
This is the perfect choice.
42:37
Kearns: about how there's a lot of noir involved in this and stuff,
42:40
Ryan: Yep.
42:41
Kearns: is gravitated toward that.
42:43
Whereas you guys are like, well, I mean I can't pigeonhole you.
42:45
You guys are film fans and students of film and movie lovers in general, but
42:51
for this, you guys don't like it because it falls flat on the horror for you
42:54
and it's got a bunch of other stuff.
42:56
The, I'm not saying that this person is correct in the review, but I
42:59
get why they would say five star.
43:03
Ryan: And then I'll, if they watch this, I'll suggest to watch
43:06
a better noir film and watch Chinatown and watch that instead and
43:11
Kearns: mean, you're
43:11
Ryan: a real noir film.
43:12
Kearns: one of the best ones.
43:14
Ryan: Falcon.
43:15
Jon: I mean, yeah, I, yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean we're talking sort of unfair
43:20
Ryan: I,
43:21
Jon: comparison there.
43:22
Kearns: it is.
43:23
Ryan: I, it's one of my favorite films.
43:26
That script is, a script is immaculate, but I'm just saying if
43:30
you want noir, Madam Watch Chinatown.
43:34
Kearns: that.
43:34
Can we call you out on that real quick?
43:35
Do you have to
43:36
Ryan: What
43:37
Kearns: Do you
43:37
Ryan: noir?
43:38
Kearns: Are we gonna have some al
43:40
Ryan: It's, it's, it's La Noir Noir.
43:43
Kearns: Just be American
43:46
Ryan: It's no.
43:49
Kearns: Noir.
43:50
I don't.
43:50
I wanna talk about noir anymore.
43:55
Jon: Noer,
43:56
Ryan: Oh, don't say no.
43:57
Jon: um,
43:58
Ryan: Go.
43:59
Kearns: Noir,
44:00
Ryan: la.
44:00
No,
44:00
Kearns: noir.
44:03
Jon: Noer.
44:04
One star, remarkably free of anything remotely scary.
44:10
This ghost story relies on heaps of style to cover its quite thin plot
44:15
until the ion culminates in a gruesome but fantastically un thrilling climax.
44:22
The game must certainly be better than this.
44:27
Ryan: it is.
44:28
Kearns: so
44:28
Ryan: Play Silent Hill.
44:29
Two on PS five.
44:30
Kearns: it was genre altering.
44:32
just to, touch on that for the fans real quick.
44:34
Silent Hill took what Resident Evil started, and I think
44:37
they were in production around the same time, weren't they?
44:39
Ryan: Yes.
44:39
Kearns: Hill came out out after, but it did better.
44:43
Whereas Resident Evil was more actiony, you almost had a, a
44:46
stutter step start to Silent Hill.
44:48
'cause it wasn't actiony, you weren't meant to be fighting everything you
44:50
were meant to get the scared outta you.
44:52
there's a game called Clock Tower, which also did a
44:54
Ryan: Yes.
44:55
Kearns: with that.
44:56
Ryan: Yep.
44:56
Kearns: that was cool.
44:57
He was coming by with the scissors and stuff, but it, the game was genre
45:01
altering and I, believe that like the Game Resident Evil to Village kind
45:05
of leans heavily on the cool Silent Hill vibes more than it does resident
45:10
evil vibes for a lot of its success.
45:13
Ryan: Eight or four
45:15
Kearns: Village
45:16
Ryan: Village.
45:17
Okay.
45:17
Eight.
45:17
Okay.
45:18
Kearns: for
45:18
Ryan: I,
45:18
Kearns: an action game.
45:19
Ryan: I always think of four as the village.
45:21
'cause there's a village in that one and
45:23
Kearns: 'cause
45:23
Ryan: people,
45:24
Kearns: the time.
45:25
Gotcha.
45:25
Ryan: compare it.
45:26
No, I agree with you.
45:27
Kearns: roll up on a merchant and stuff.
45:29
That's just randomly there.
45:30
Yeah.
45:30
No, that's not the one.
45:32
I like four though.
45:32
But it's not the Village, um, different, they're, they
45:37
Ryan: Yeah.
45:38
Kearns: in different genres.
45:39
Ryan: I agree with you.
45:40
Kearns: yeah, just to get off my high horse.
45:42
I think silent Hil, the game is outstanding.
45:45
Like one of the best of all time.
45:47
Ryan: the different thing is,
45:49
Jon: And I have,
45:50
Ryan: I was gonna say, the only
45:51
Jon: go ahead.
45:51
Ryan: is, is it puts you in a fog and it's a mystery.
45:54
Like you could be walking down the street and hear the flapping of one of the
45:57
creatures or the creatures moaning and it won't pop up onto you until last minute.
46:03
Kearns: it's cool.
46:04
Ryan: like, all right, so the biggest thing from
46:07
Kearns: walking and stuff and that
46:09
Ryan: true.
46:10
Yep,
46:10
Jon: And the static, which I feel like they, I feel like they under
46:14
use the static in the movie.
46:16
Ryan: the game.
46:16
Kearns: think about that.
46:17
Ryan: It's annoying in the game.
46:20
Jon: I, oh, I love the static in the movie.
46:23
Like,
46:23
Ryan: Yep.
46:24
Jon: know, something's out there, but you don't know where it is like that.
46:28
they could have done that a lot more.
46:30
Ryan: them, including the bird as a reference too.
46:32
'cause that's included in the first game.
46:35
And I think the third game.
46:36
Third game, definitely with the canary.
46:38
So, uh, but the static though.
46:41
Kearns: right?
46:41
That's like the whole thing.
46:43
Ryan: Yep.
46:45
Jon: Mm-hmm.
46:45
Kearns: in mind the entire, before
46:47
Jon: I have one more review for you.
46:48
Kearns: in mind everybody, don't forget that
46:50
Jon: Okay.
46:50
Kearns: place on top of a burning mine.
46:53
That's like, which is a reference
46:55
Jon: A burning coal mine,
46:56
Kearns: America, is it?
46:57
I think it's a reference to the one in Siberia that's
46:59
Ryan: So
47:00
Kearns: for like forever.
47:01
Ryan: yes.
47:02
Yep.
47:02
Jon: probably.
47:03
Yeah.
47:04
Wasn't there a Simpsons episode with a coal fire burning under a town too?
47:09
Ryan: the endless, uh, burning the tire, the tire tower in the town, the tire
47:15
Jon: The tire fire.
47:16
That's what, yeah.
47:16
The tire fire.
47:18
Yeah.
47:19
Yeah.
47:19
Mm-hmm.
47:22
Kearns: It's true.
47:22
But
47:22
Ryan: They just add a good old CTUs.
47:26
Jon: ynk.
47:26
Ryan: those tires.
47:27
Jon: All right.
47:28
One more.
47:29
And the ones in the haves were hard to find also.
47:33
Half star.
47:35
Worst movie that I have ever seen.
47:39
A. Avoid at all costs.
47:43
Ryan: I,
47:44
Jon: Now the see, but that's ultimately for me, that's my problem with Silent
47:50
Hill is I don't like it enough to put it up here, but I don't hate
47:54
it enough to put it at the bottom.
47:56
Kearns: like
47:56
Jon: Like this wouldn't even,
47:58
Ryan: yes.
47:59
Jon: yeah.
47:59
Yeah.
48:00
This wouldn't even crack by probably bottom 100 movies.
48:08
I don't even think it would be close.
48:10
Kearns: dead
48:11
Jon: just, it's just like a, it's just just a
48:15
Kearns: but it
48:16
Jon: mid-level movie.
48:17
It's, it's so,
48:18
Kearns: to not be, which is why we, that's why we're pissed.
48:21
Yeah.
48:22
Jon: yeah.
48:22
Yeah, that's the frustration.
48:24
You have RHA Mitchell at like the right about her Lost Peak.
48:29
You have Sean Bean, you have Lori Holden, who's kind of up and cuy at that point.
48:34
Kearns: of the Rings era.
48:35
Sean Bean.
48:36
Right.
48:36
We're talking
48:37
Ryan: yep.
48:37
Kearns: was in this
48:38
Jon: Yeah, this is like cashing in on Lord of the Rings,
48:42
Ryan: say he doesn't die in this film?
48:44
It's the one of the few films he does not die in.
48:46
Kearns: That's,
48:47
Ryan: about that.
48:48
Kearns: this, the Martian, what else?
48:51
Ryan: only two movies dies in everything else.
48:54
You see Sean Bead, you know he's gonna die.
48:56
Kearns: Mm-hmm.
48:59
Um, was that the end of the review or, was
49:03
Jon: yep.
49:03
That's the whole review.
49:05
Worst movie that I've ever seen.
49:06
Avoid at all costs,
49:08
Kearns: folding in dark alleys and you guys should be okay.
49:11
Jon: I think I just telegraphed where I stand with this movie,
49:14
Kearns: Okay.
49:15
Jon: a two and a half out of five.
49:16
It's a two, like it's a mid movie.
49:20
Ryan: I,
49:20
Jon: It's mid.
49:21
Ryan: I'd give it a two, two out of five.
49:24
It's again, it's two hours too long.
49:27
Um, just, you know,
49:30
Kearns: 'cause he is sick.
49:32
Ryan: not grumpy 'cause I'm sick, I'm
49:33
Jon: It, it,
49:34
Ryan: they had such a great concept.
49:36
You had Sean Bean, you could have done the first game
49:38
appropriately and didn't, messed up.
49:43
Jon: it's Sean being too long
49:46
Ryan: there.
49:46
Jon: is the problem.
49:47
Ryan: I, I, no, there's never too much Sean being and with Kim Coats.
49:51
Kearns: that like that
49:51
Ryan: Oh,
49:52
Kearns: time that they waste with Sean Bean, 'cause he really
49:54
doesn't need to be in this movie, but Sean Bean, so they put him in
49:57
Jon: He does, he doesn't give you much.
49:59
he just establishes that they're in a different dimension and you know,
50:04
a little bit of the backstory on Sharon, but it's all stuff that they
50:07
could have gotten to, in other ways.
50:10
Kearns: in a weird way.
50:10
And that's another thing.
50:12
So I think where
50:13
Jon: Mm-hmm.
50:14
Kearns: comes in is that he knows what this could have been, and he
50:17
feels like they effed it up so badly because they didn't take the time
50:21
to truly understand the material.
50:22
And if they did damn them twice because they messed it up anyway because
50:26
they had a terrible execution of it.
50:29
Ryan: Yep.
50:30
Kearns: this could have been a trilogy.
50:31
It could have been an excellent trilogy.
50:32
They could probably still do it.
50:34
Well, let's see if they do.
50:37
Yeah,
50:37
Jon: I mean, they are,
50:38
Kearns: off.
50:39
Ryan: there's.
50:40
Kearns: could
50:40
Jon: a new one coming.
50:40
Kearns: from like the beginning and start fresh instead of trying to
50:43
tack on, that would be a good idea.
50:45
You,
50:45
Ryan: There's hope they're starting from the
50:47
Jon: Mm-hmm.
50:48
Ryan: because the second game is the most popular.
50:50
It's recently come out, again for the PS five.
50:53
So they're gonna follow that story.
50:55
and then from there, I mean the world's the oyster.
50:59
I mean, right now they just came out with Silent Hill f which
51:02
is in the sixties of Japan.
51:04
So it's showing how other world is affecting the whole world, which
51:10
is pretty interesting concepts.
51:13
Yeah.
51:13
But the
51:15
Jon: Mm-hmm.
51:16
Ryan: as they're expanding on this Silent Hill universe now, the
51:19
creatures in Japan don't really go after you as the main protagonist.
51:24
They're out there, they're doing other things.
51:26
So like there's a video with one of 'em clawing at a door trying
51:30
to go after that person in there, and then you'll walk up to them.
51:34
It won't respond to you because it's so focused trying to tear that door down.
51:38
For that person.
51:39
Kearns: it's set on that person 'cause it's part of their torment,
51:43
Ryan: I, yep.
51:45
Kearns: kind of thing.
51:46
That's neat.
51:47
Jon: Mm-hmm.
51:47
Kearns: I didn't get a chance
51:48
Jon: I,
51:48
Kearns: my stars.
51:49
Jon: I would,
51:50
Ryan: Oh my bad.
51:50
Jon: yeah.
51:51
No, go ahead.
51:52
Kearns: about the movie so differently 'cause I do, I don't, I don't, um, slam
51:56
it as hard, but I do give it a 2.5.
51:59
That's where it falls.
52:00
That's where it belongs.
52:01
It's not a three even,
52:02
Jon: Yeah.
52:03
Kearns: five.
52:03
Jon: It's.
52:04
I would be willing to give it a half point more if it was a half hour shorter.
52:08
I think Ryan would give it a whole point shorter.
52:11
If it was two hours shorter,
52:13
Ryan: stars.
52:13
I'm sticking with two stars on this one.
52:15
Kearns: Alright,
52:16
Jon: it'd be a three out of five to Ryan if they cut two hours.
52:19
Ryan: Wham, bam.
52:20
Thank you ma'am.
52:21
Just gets the end.
52:22
Kearns: there it is.
52:26
Jon: But to, revisit the new one, I would say, I think my hope for it being
52:32
potentially good is they've gotten better at making video game movies.
52:40
If, you notice that keeper cut is pretty much all in this same time
52:46
period until Sylvanian the last of us.
52:51
Ryan: of Dead was Big.
52:52
Doom was big.
52:54
I'm trying to think if
52:55
Jon: Mm-hmm.
52:55
Ryan: besides Resident Evil, was there anything else that they were,
52:58
they had, IM Mortal Ko, little like computer series going on at that time
53:02
too with like Michael J. White some big names too, and that like they were
53:08
trying but there wasn't an audience.
53:10
But now we have an audience and that's
53:12
Jon: Mm-hmm.
53:14
Well, and you could say that there wasn't an audience because they
53:19
weren't doing it well, I think these movies always would've been successful
53:23
if you were making them well.
53:24
Kearns: was like, well, I mean good air quotes.
53:26
That movie holds up to me and I don't care.
53:29
Goro the Puppet is still the man, like that movie's, the
53:32
soundtrack and everything.
53:33
I don't listen to that kind of music that went so hard.
53:35
Jon: Mm-hmm.
53:36
Kearns: was great, executed perfectly for the time period.
53:38
Whatever people can argue, I don't care.
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That's my standpoint.
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Ryan: No, it,
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Kearns: that movie was a great video game adaptation.
53:45
Fighter two
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
53:47
Kearns: live action was not.
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Ryan: John Clark,
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Kearns: the animated movie is fantastic.
53:52
If you haven't
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Ryan: I thank you.
53:53
Thank you for mentioning that the animated movie is excellent.
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Is on my list.
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Kearns: I have the director's cut my friend, Ooh, bought it in the Virgin
54:02
Islands, brought it back up here.
54:03
My friends were like, what?
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Ryan: is this?
54:06
The holy grail.
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Kearns: blood everywhere, yeah, man.
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so yeah, that's Silent Hill everybody.
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We, are lukewarm on it.
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We hope you watch it.
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Ryan: Yes.
54:17
Give it, give
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Jon: Lukewarm.
54:18
Ryan: Give it a shot.
54:19
You might like it.
54:20
And, uh, before we get into our top fives, I'm shocked no one
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mentioned it, especially you, John.
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Today's a special day for one of our directors,
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Jon: it's,
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Ryan: John Carpenter.
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Happy
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Jon: it's,
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Ryan: Carpenter.
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Kearns: happy
54:33
Ryan: It is his, it is his birthday today and we're gonna
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Jon: I mean,
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Ryan: but gotta wish him a happy birthday.
54:41
Jon: it's okay.
54:42
I've been later.
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Ryan: Top fives this week, gentlemen are for me, top five
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video game adaptations that I love.
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we're going all over the place with it 'cause video games are video games.
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As you guys know, I love video games.
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I love a great adaptation.
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for Silent Hill, so to say, as we discussed tonight,
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but still give it a shot.
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we're gonna start off though with my number five.
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Kerns is very familiar with this.
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John.
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I recommend it if you got like to 19 minutes to watch a couple of them.
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And that's secret level.
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Kearns: Oh
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Ryan: level, it's so good.
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Um, love, death, and robots very inspired, different stories.
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Uh, highly recommend the Pac-Man episode for you, Sifu or even Armored Core
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War Hammer, even the Mega Man one, which is five minutes hits the spot.
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It's not two hours, but it's five minutes.
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You know, just like, it shows how these creators love these video games
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and they'll either do a little short that from the game lore or something
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that's inspired like the Pacman one.
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I, love the Pacman one.
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I, can talk endlessly about it.
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And John, I highly recommend you watch in the Pac Mail one 'cause
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it's up your alley, how it's designed, which leads to number four.
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big fan of this game, franchisees came out, it's called Splinter Cell,
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and they recently have a animated show on Netflix called Death Watch.
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I got to finish it recently.
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it's basically Sam Fisher.
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He's a retired field agent for the former third echelon, which is
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like C-I-A-N-S-A underground stuff.
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They do like espionage and a lot of, tactical and in the dark stuff.
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And he kind of gets pulled out he's worn, he's tired.
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There's a lot that's been going on.
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It's a sequel from the other games and there's been five or six games
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after that, so he kinda gets thrown back in and it's a really good watch.
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Leaves Schreiber is the biggest name out of it.
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He plays Sam Fisher.
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He does a killer job and it's only eight episodes.
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Highly recommend it's on Netflix.
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And that leads to number three.
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Love the Game, love the show, and it's cyberpunk edge.
56:53
Runners can talk endlessly about this, about a kid named David Martinez, who
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lives in a city called Knight City.
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Which is basically California years after technology tech's over.
57:04
And a lot of these characters, including David, a lot of, upgrades to them.
57:09
We can say electronic upgrades, and they're half machine, half human.
57:15
And very emotional.
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Shows how this kid who has nothing goes to the top and how you can
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lose it, like in a blink of an eye and it's very heart wrenching.
57:29
which leads to number two.
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Number two was heart wrenching for me, and that's Sylvania Sylvania.
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We've already mentioned it.
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the, the original, the original first Four Seasons, NOC Turn has
57:41
to continue before including it.
57:43
But the first four seasons, I mean, you're covering Sylvania three, Dracula's
57:49
Curse, you're covering, Sylvania Curse of Darkness, sympathy of the ninth.
57:54
You're getting a little original lore in there.
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It's a nice blend.
57:57
It's just what?
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No, come on, John.
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Jump on the Castle Vanna bandwagon at least.
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Jon: No, I, the fact that this is number two just makes me so disappointed
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that I didn't get you to cut it.
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Kearns: He's so evil.
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Ryan: ca It's so good and just,
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Kearns: evil, John.
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Jon: Can you imagine how wonderful that would've been
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if you had cut your number two
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Ryan: I'm
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Jon: an hour ago?
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Ryan: number one on there.
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'cause that could have gotten cut and it didn't.
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And that's Fallout.
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I love Fallout.
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The show.
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The show's so good.
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we're talking about inspiration.
58:34
There's a lot of inspiration on the fallout because they've
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changed the lore a lot.
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So they're trying to keep in contention with the first game, the second game,
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the third and the fourth and New Vegas because they include certain things like
58:47
the water shortage and death clause and.
58:50
New Vegas, but as much as they include the lore, they put a little
58:56
originality in it too, which I love.
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those are my top five.
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Most of 'em are all TV series because I'll be real, I've never, I haven't
59:04
seen a good movie, video game movie besides like the new Mortal Kombat
59:09
or the old Mortal Ko, or you know,
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
59:13
Ryan: Hit and miss.
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Jon: Well, and I think that's part of why they've gotten better at adapting
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video games is you have streaming services that all need content.
59:25
So instead of cramming a game that takes you, you know, minimum, what,
59:29
15 hours to play and cramming that in an hour and a half movie, you
59:34
can now do 15 hours of a show.
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Ryan: Halo.
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They failed at Halo.
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Kearns: Yeah,
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Ryan: I.
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Kearns: they sure did.
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Jon: I am curious.
59:43
One of my sneaky favorite game series does have a show on Amazon
59:49
that I haven't checked out yet.
59:51
Yakuza,
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Ryan: it's in, uh,
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Jon: I haven't checked this show out.
59:56
I'm, you know, I'm semi concerned about it, but
1:00:00
Ryan: in, it's in Japanese of course.
1:00:02
It's very much as the first
1:00:04
Jon: yeah.
1:00:05
Ryan: if you played the first game, um, there's a little bit of changes in
1:00:08
Jon: Mm-hmm.
1:00:09
Ryan: not so much.
1:00:10
It's the
1:00:11
Jon: Mm-hmm.
1:00:12
Ryan: dialogue, written action packed cusa that we're familiar with
1:00:21
from my understanding.
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Kearns: John, you
1:00:24
Ryan: Yeah.
1:00:25
What is your top five?
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Jon: I do have a top five.
1:00:29
My top five is horror movies featuring actors from The Walking Dead.
1:00:36
so number five, we have Jeffrey Dean Morgan who infamously your
1:00:42
boy Nagan in dead end breakfast.
1:00:47
Kearns: Really?
1:00:51
Jon: Really?
1:00:51
So this, the cast is like all like TV actors who were kind of at their
1:00:57
peak, whatever that was for them.
1:01:00
Jeremy Cito, Eric Paladino.
1:01:03
You know guys like that who are like kind of big for a minute, and
1:01:07
it's exactly what it sounds like.
1:01:08
A local bed and breakfast is overrun by zombies and the guests and the proprietors
1:01:13
are left to fend off the hungry unde.
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Ryan: I'm sold.
1:01:17
Kearns: Sounds good.
1:01:19
Jon: Um, it's, it's fun.
1:01:21
It's not great.
1:01:22
It's pro.
1:01:23
It may have been a sci-fi original.
1:01:25
Kearns: wa
1:01:25
Jon: not like,
1:01:27
Ryan: But
1:01:27
Jon: it, it's fun.
1:01:28
It's fun.
1:01:29
Ryan: my opinion, he does elevate it.
1:01:32
He
1:01:32
Jon: Yeah.
1:01:32
Ryan: and I'm not saying that because you know, he's got a delicious candy
1:01:36
store up in, you know, Reinbeck,
1:01:39
Jon: Mm-hmm.
1:01:39
Ryan: out of this world, but you know, you know he is.
1:01:42
He's a good dude, the comedian.
1:01:44
Come on now.
1:01:48
Jon: Mm-hmm.
1:01:49
so number four, we're gonna go to a movie starring Michael
1:01:52
Rucker, our old guy Merle.
1:01:55
it was good.
1:01:56
It should be Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer, but I feel like I've put that
1:01:59
on like multiple lists at this point.
1:02:02
So I'm going with a Stephen King adaptation directed by
1:02:06
George Romero, the dark half.
1:02:09
So the dark half is, during surgery to remove what was
1:02:13
believed to be a tumor as a child.
1:02:15
Young Thad Beaumont learns, it's actually his twin brother.
1:02:18
Kearns: old urban legend, by the
1:02:20
Jon: Um
1:02:21
Kearns: before that story was written, I
1:02:23
Jon: mm-hmm.
1:02:25
Kearns: it 'cause I
1:02:25
Jon: Yeah.
1:02:26
Kearns: that story was written.
1:02:27
But still, I
1:02:28
Jon: Yeah.
1:02:29
That, that's a,
1:02:30
Kearns: Sorry.
1:02:30
Jon: yeah, as an adult.
1:02:32
The twin reemerges to claim Thad's life
1:02:35
Ryan: it's what, um, what's
1:02:37
Jon: and this one does.
1:02:38
Ryan: malignant should have been.
1:02:41
It failed.
1:02:42
Kearns: a pile of garbage.
1:02:44
Such
1:02:45
Ryan: Yes, it was
1:02:45
Kearns: was the voice.
1:02:46
If it was, if they didn't go with that choice, with the goddamn voice, could
1:02:51
have done something with that movie.
1:02:52
Anyway.
1:02:53
All right.
1:02:53
Number, number, whatever.
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
1:02:56
Ryan: there.
1:02:57
Jon: Number three, is with Steven Yune, who is Glen.
1:03:02
the movie is Mayhem.
1:03:04
Kearns: Yeah.
1:03:04
Jon: in mayhem.
1:03:05
He, plays Derek Cho, who is wrongfully terminated on the same day a virus
1:03:11
tears through his corporate law office.
1:03:14
This virus turns the staff into zombie lake creatures, except these
1:03:21
creatures act on their wildest impulses.
1:03:25
Kearns: Nice.
1:03:27
Jon: costars Samara weaving, who we'll get to in some future episodes
1:03:32
in ready or not and some other stuff.
1:03:34
Um, she's really good in this.
1:03:38
so number two is one of my favorite, more recent slashers.
1:03:43
Its stars, or it doesn't star, but it features Scott Wilson,
1:03:48
Ryan: Yep.
1:03:48
Jon: all Herschel in the Walking Dead.
1:03:52
and it's behind the Mask, the Rise of Leslie Vernon.
1:03:56
Kearns: Never heard of it.
1:03:58
Jon: this one needs to get on our calendar before too long.
1:04:00
Also, a documentary.
1:04:03
Ryan: I know.
1:04:03
Jon: Yeah, a documentary crew is given full access to an up and
1:04:09
coming psychopathic killer as he plans his next murder spree, not
1:04:15
knowing they are the victims.
1:04:17
Ryan: Really good.
1:04:20
Jon: and you get, appearances from a bunch of horror legends.
1:04:23
Kane Hotters in it, Robert Eng England is in it.
1:04:26
Zelda Rubenstein is in it.
1:04:29
it's a lot of fun.
1:04:30
It's not like played as straight horror.
1:04:32
It's you, it is.
1:04:33
Got the goofiness, but it's really well done.
1:04:36
Ryan: Zelda's last film,
1:04:37
Jon: And my number one,
1:04:39
Ryan: Just add that, sorry.
1:04:40
Jon: yeah,
1:04:43
and my number one will tie us back to last week.
1:04:48
It's Xander Berkeley.
1:04:50
Who is Gregory in the Walking Dead.
1:04:52
And number one is the original Candyman.
1:04:56
Ryan: okay.
1:04:57
We're getting some Candyman left.
1:04:59
Jon: I mean, at this point, after a full episode, episode
1:05:02
on one of the Candyman movies.
1:05:04
What else can we say about Candyman, except don't say it five times.
1:05:08
Ryan: I am still
1:05:09
Jon: Um, and you know, the story grad student researching the myth
1:05:14
accidentally summons Candyman who proceeds to ruin her life in fire and bees,
1:05:23
Ryan: Just fire and
1:05:24
Jon: and that's my top five.
1:05:25
Walking Dead movies, walking dead cast movies, fire and Bees.
1:05:29
Kearns: Deun out there.
1:05:32
He's in like a million
1:05:34
Jon: I was going to, and I saw it and I was toying with it being Christmas evil,
1:05:38
Ryan: that would've been good.
1:05:40
Jon: but I feel like I've already talked about Christmas Evil a lot recently.
1:05:45
Ryan: You can never,
1:05:46
Jon: This is really the only reason that wasn't on there.
1:05:49
Ryan: Christmas evil.
1:05:50
Kearns: king on screen he was in 'cause he's in every Stephen King adaptation
1:05:53
It feels like A Journal of a Murderer.
1:05:58
what's the big one?
1:05:59
Warning sign appears to be a horror movie, but I don't know.
1:06:01
The haunted souls.
1:06:04
The Mist, which we talk about ad nauseum.
1:06:06
Anyway, so I guess
1:06:07
Ryan: Oh,
1:06:07
Kearns: good one to jump over.
1:06:09
Ryan: Mr. Mason.
1:06:10
Kearns: The 1988, the Blob
1:06:11
Ryan: Okay.
1:06:13
Kearns: Sick cool man.
1:06:15
And storm storming this time.
1:06:16
Jon: I'm saving something like the blob for later.
1:06:19
Kearns: I can't
1:06:19
Ryan: I can't wait for the Bob.
1:06:21
Jon: Future list.
1:06:22
Kearns: Blob era.
1:06:24
Ryan: Those dead scenes, just thinking about them.
1:06:26
Kearns: guys,
1:06:26
Jon: list.
1:06:27
Kearns: Silent Hill.
1:06:28
1, 2, 3, 4. Who knows?
1:06:29
But it was the movie.
1:06:31
Jon: Yeah.
1:06:31
Kearns: something.
1:06:33
Ryan: one too many.
1:06:34
Kearns: if you're, if you're content with Right, for about
1:06:39
two hours and five minutes.
1:06:40
Why don't you watch Silent?
1:06:44
Jon: Yeah.
1:06:44
If you, want your next two hours and five minutes to be meh.
1:06:48
Ryan: Yeah,
1:06:48
Jon: Watch Silent Hill.
1:06:49
Ryan: Have a laugh.
1:06:50
Enjoy it
1:06:51
Kearns: My
1:06:52
Jon: Maybe you'll like it better.
1:06:53
Kearns: that
1:06:53
Jon: Maybe you'll like it better.
1:06:55
Kearns: an hour.
1:06:56
Ryan: too late.
1:06:57
Have a good one.
1:06:58
Kearns: 22 minutes too late.
1:07:03
Jon: Fear.