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Episode 34: Behind the Curtain of "Cursed Child" · Revelio: A Wizarding World Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to episode thirty four of Ravellio for
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  Speaker 1: December eleventh, twenty twenty five. I'm Amy, I'm Nicole, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm Tom and this is our last episode of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: Another year flew by crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I know, it's so crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So listeners, we are taking off for the Christmas holiday
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  Speaker 1: because our regularly scheduled next episode would come out on
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  Speaker 1: Christmas Day, but things are a little crazy with everyone
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  Speaker 1: traveling and plans with family, so we'll start up again
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  Speaker 1: in January. So our next episode will be out on
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  Speaker 1: January eighth and will be twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll be another year older.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, days going to be in there. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: We're not. Let's not talk about that, having a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of an essential crisis about the age that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Come on, you just celebrate regardless. We should see people.
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  Speaker 3: I'm grateful to still be alive, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, but that's it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, with how millennials are aging, you're
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  Speaker 1: basically just turning like twenty one, so exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think I look my age at all.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just it's crazy because we think of ourselves now,
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  Speaker 2: like in our well basically thirties now. And it's like
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  Speaker 2: I would have imagined myself, like, you know, being this
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  Speaker 2: full grown adult wearing a suit and just like being
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  Speaker 2: like very you know. It's kind of like, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: and I would never ever imagined I would be looking
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  Speaker 2: like this at thirty four. Like it's so weird, like
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  Speaker 2: still wearing casual clothes like I did when I was
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  Speaker 2: a teenager, Like what's going on? Like I do feel
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  Speaker 2: like an adult now now that I'm like my thirties,
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  Speaker 2: but I still don't feel like my parents have.
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  Speaker 3: Been an adult, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so weird.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean I agree because you know, as we're
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  Speaker 3: you know, sitting here, I mean, wearing a T shirt
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  Speaker 3: with Tom Felton's picture on it, I've got Harry Potter
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  Speaker 3: artwork behind me, a tailor swept Christmas tree behind me,
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  Speaker 3: drinking out of a Harry Potter mugs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean change.
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  Speaker 2: It's the millennial blessing. I like to call it the
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  Speaker 2: millennial blessing.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I will say I feel more myself in my thirties
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  Speaker 3: than I have it like any other time of my life.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I like the things that I like, and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: embarrassed or ashamed by it, and I think that the
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  Speaker 1: beauty of it.
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  Speaker 3: Right, got bullied for liking Harry Potter in high school
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  Speaker 3: and now I get to talk about it every other
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  Speaker 3: week with my friend exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So in today's episode, we are going to be discussing
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  Speaker 2: the stage play Harry Potter and the Cursed Child. But first.
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  Speaker 3: Listening to w W in the Wizarding Wireless Network. Now
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  Speaker 3: for the latest headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so this week we have quite a bit of news,
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  Speaker 2: and we are going to start out by a kicker,
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  Speaker 2: like something we were expecting. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: it kind of took us by storm. So it seems
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  Speaker 2: like the Netflix era is upon us. It so happens
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  Speaker 2: that Netflix has won the bidding war for Warner Brothers. So,
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  Speaker 2: in case you don't know, Warner Brothers had been on
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  Speaker 2: this bidding process for quite a few months now to
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  Speaker 2: see which company would acquire it, because we know Warner
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  Speaker 2: has been struggling with box office and their revenue in general,
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  Speaker 2: so we knew this was sort of coming, but I
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  Speaker 2: think we're a little surprised by who the purchaser is.
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  Speaker 2: So on December fifth, twenty twenty five, so actually yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: the day we're recording this episode, Netflix and Warner Brothers
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  Speaker 2: Discovery announced they have entered into a definitive agreement under
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  Speaker 2: which Netflix will acquire Warner Brothers, including its film and
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  Speaker 2: television studios HBO, Max and HBO. According to the press
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  Speaker 2: release and I quote, this acquisition brings together two pioneering
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  Speaker 2: entertainment businesses, combining Netflix innovation, global reach, and best in
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  Speaker 2: class streaming service. With Warner brothers century long legacy of
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  Speaker 2: world class storytelling. Beloved franchises, shows and movies such as
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  Speaker 2: The Big Band, Theory, The Sopranos, Game of Thrones, The
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  Speaker 2: Wizard of Oss, and the DC Universe will join netflix
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  Speaker 2: extensive portfolio, including Wednesday, Money, Heist, Bridgerton, Adolescence, Extraction, creating
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  Speaker 2: an extraordinary entertainment offering for audiences worldwide. Ted Sarandos, the
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  Speaker 2: co CEO of Netflix, has also stated, our mission has
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  Speaker 2: always been to entertain the world. So by combining Warner
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  Speaker 2: brothers incredible library of shows and movies, from titless classics
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  Speaker 2: like Casablanca to Citizen Kane and to modern favorites like
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  Speaker 2: Harry Potter and Friends, with our culture defining titles like
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  Speaker 2: Stranger Things, K Pop, Demon Hunters, and Squid Game will
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  Speaker 2: be able to do that even better. Together, we can
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  Speaker 2: give audiences more of what they love and help define
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  Speaker 2: the next century of storytelling. So yeah, that's it for
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  Speaker 2: this thing, so they say, or so they say, so
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  Speaker 2: the big question, Yeah, Like, I'm just wondering what this
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  Speaker 2: means for our beloved Wizard and what this means also
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  Speaker 2: for the show that was coming out on HBO Max.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, do we think it's going to become
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  Speaker 2: a Netflix original Because I mean, I think only it's
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  Speaker 2: only a matter of time before I think it just
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  Speaker 2: becomes one thing they merge into just Netflix. It so
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  Speaker 2: seems to be the case, But I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: you guys think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's kind of the big question, isn't it,
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  Speaker 1: Like does HBO Max continue to exist just under new ownership,
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  Speaker 1: or do they merge HBO Max and Netflix into one
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  Speaker 1: streaming platform. I think that's kind of the question mark
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  Speaker 1: here and how they're going to handle that same as
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  Speaker 1: like the Warner Brothers division within the larger company. I
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  Speaker 1: would imagine they're going to keep that label, like they're
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  Speaker 1: not going to slap Netflix on films that out right.
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  Speaker 1: The WB logo is so iconic, so known. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like Warner Brothers will stay its own division underneath the
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  Speaker 1: Netflix umbrella, sort of like, look at all the companies
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  Speaker 1: that Disney owns. Not everything Disney owns says Disney, right,
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  Speaker 1: They're all kind of their own brands. So I feel
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  Speaker 1: like that's going to be how that is. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess on the positive side, like Netflix might be
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  Speaker 1: more willing to expand streaming content in shows, and there
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  Speaker 1: might be more potential for spinoffs or that Fantastic Beast
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  Speaker 1: continuation that we would all really like. But they've been
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  Speaker 1: pretty public about not wanting to fund or seeing the
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  Speaker 1: value in fantasy see content specifically, So that's a little worried.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess time will tell.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: I think if I think if we look at like
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  Speaker 3: the recent merger of Disney Plus and Hulu, I think
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  Speaker 3: that that could kind of show what we'll see here.
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  Speaker 3: Hulu is still its own thing, right, like Hulu has
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  Speaker 3: its own shows, right, They're not going to all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden say that The Handmaid's Tell was a Disney
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  Speaker 3: Plus original, like, no, it's a Hulu original. And I
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  Speaker 3: think now you know how, like my subscriptions actually for
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  Speaker 3: Disney Plus and Hulu are still separate. I still pay
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  Speaker 3: for them separately because I had Hulu for free as
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  Speaker 3: part of like a Spotify package and I got grandfathered
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  Speaker 3: into that, so I can't. But like when you go
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  Speaker 3: into the Disney Plus app, now, like you know how,
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  Speaker 3: they changed it and you can taggle between Disney Plus
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  Speaker 3: and Hulu. So that doesn't work for me because my
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  Speaker 3: things are separate. But I could see maybe eventu, Netflix
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  Speaker 3: and Hbo doing something similar like that, where they just
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  Speaker 3: kind of create this one app and then their separate
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  Speaker 3: kind of entities within that app, but they still have
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  Speaker 3: their own original content.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny because right now my streaming bundle, I've bundled
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  Speaker 1: together HBO, Disney Plus, and Hulu in the same bundle.
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  Speaker 1: So are you telling me I'm going to get to
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  Speaker 1: bundle Netflix and maybe pay a little less.
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  Speaker 3: I had no idea. Yeah, you might end up getting
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  Speaker 3: picked out of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was enjoying that little discount, but whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, because of the press release, they're
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  Speaker 2: saying that it's going to, you know, now form part
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  Speaker 2: of their portfolio and their catalog which this means that
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  Speaker 2: everything that was on HBO Max up until now is
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  Speaker 2: going to be on Netflix, and it wouldn't really make
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  Speaker 2: much sense to have them both having the same content
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  Speaker 2: streaming twice. That's why I think it's because I know
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  Speaker 2: Hulu has like a it's catered to a different audience.
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  Speaker 2: You know, at the beginning, it was like Hulu was
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  Speaker 2: a Disney's subdivision and it was more like adult driven
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  Speaker 2: content maybe, and then you had Disney which was kind
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  Speaker 2: of like more of family streaming service. But in this case,
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  Speaker 2: it's it. And also, you know, you were mentioning Nicole
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  Speaker 2: you know today on the chat that you received that
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  Speaker 2: email from Netflix saying that you know for now, like
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  Speaker 2: things would stay the same for the time being. But
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  Speaker 2: people online are kind of like already raging and they're saying, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we know what this means. This, you know this is,
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  Speaker 2: we know how this story ends. We've seen it a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times. So I don't know, like it it
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  Speaker 2: is like what is because we of course, I think
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  Speaker 2: Warner will still be its own thing. It's too big,
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  Speaker 2: it's too iconic, it's you know, it has this legacy
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  Speaker 2: that is no way you know, replaceable by streaming service
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  Speaker 2: in that regard, but HBO, like how much power does
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  Speaker 2: it actually have to still live on its own once
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  Speaker 2: Netflix acquires the whole bundle.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think it makes sense to combine them, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: because it's similar audience.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like it. I mean I think that it's
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  Speaker 3: I think, well, what's interesting too, is that because like
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  Speaker 3: going back to what I was saying about, like my
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  Speaker 3: Disney Plus account, like when I go into my Hulu
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  Speaker 3: account or like Hulu app, I don't see any Disney content,
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  Speaker 3: and like when I go on my Disney content, I can't.
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  Speaker 3: I can see the Hulu stuff, but I can't access it.
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  Speaker 3: So it Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if they, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: if they keep it separate or like you were saying, Tom,
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  Speaker 3: like find a way to just like merge it and
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  Speaker 3: then stuff that still was HBO originals would still have
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  Speaker 3: that HBO original content. I think that what's hard for
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  Speaker 3: me to wrap my hat around is that a lot
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  Speaker 3: of my favorite shows are HBO originals, and I really
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  Speaker 3: like what HBO does with their stuff, especially like what
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  Speaker 3: you were saying before, Amy about like fantasy and stuff
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  Speaker 3: like there's a reason why like Netflix I think really
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  Speaker 3: other than like stranger things, like a lot of their
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  Speaker 3: original content, Like they've done a lot of like period pieces,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously they also got involved in, you know, some
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  Speaker 3: Marvel stuff until that ended up, you know, getting acquired
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  Speaker 3: and stuff by Disney again. But I don't know. I
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  Speaker 3: just think I'm looking at their original content. They're very different.
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  Speaker 3: And I tend to watch more HBO originals than I do. Well,
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  Speaker 3: not that I don't want to watch Netflix originals, but
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  Speaker 3: there's just too much to watch, not enough time. But
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  Speaker 3: it'll just be interesting to see, like as the Umbrella company,
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  Speaker 3: like right, like what influence I guess they'll have over
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  Speaker 3: HBO originals and if HBO because like HBO is really
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  Speaker 3: known for their shows being really like gritty and raw
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  Speaker 3: and R rated content and all this kind of stuff
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  Speaker 3: that can be on Netflix, right because like Netflix has
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  Speaker 3: a kid's portion, but it's also not but it like
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  Speaker 3: they also I don't know, I'm rambling now, I can't
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  Speaker 3: like like my thought, I just am worried about. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like HBO shows are very distinctive in their look
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  Speaker 3: and their feel, just like I think Netflix stuff kind
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  Speaker 3: of is like you if that makes sense, and so
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  Speaker 3: I'm nervous that kind of like what I think you
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  Speaker 3: mentioned this Tom about like HBO originals like losing their
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  Speaker 3: identity because they have to like conform to like what
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  Speaker 3: Netflix wants. I yeah, I don't know. I don't understand
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  Speaker 3: why all of these companies have to like merge, Like
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  Speaker 3: I don't get why they can't just all exist on
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  Speaker 3: their own. I know there's obviously business and finances and
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  Speaker 3: all that other stuff, but yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess us. The good news for the
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  Speaker 1: Harry Potter side of things is it sounds like I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they're already working on season two, so in theory, seasons
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  Speaker 1: one and two should at least be the way that
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  Speaker 1: they were envisioned to be for HBO, and then hopefully,
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  Speaker 1: once Netflix sees the success of them, they'll keep the
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: same people at the helm and trust them to move
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  Speaker 1: forward with the project the way they were going to.
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  Speaker 1: I think also, I know I mentioned this in our
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  Speaker 1: group chat, but this is going to take a while. Like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's official from the two companies end, but in the
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  Speaker 1: US you're going to have politics involved as well, so
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  Speaker 1: it's going to take a while for it to get
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  Speaker 1: the government approval to move forward. It will move forward.
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  Speaker 1: I have no doubt it will. But there's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: some grand standing going on about monopolies for a while
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  Speaker 1: and then it'll go forward anyway, So we have some
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: time to get used to the idea, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: Just and I know that like at one time, like
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  Speaker 3: there was also talks of like Paramount like buying HBO,
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  Speaker 3: and like to me, that always seemed like it would
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  Speaker 3: have made more sense. But I do think, right, I
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  Speaker 3: do think though, Paramount is also starting to get into
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  Speaker 3: that like monopoly kind of aspect, Like Disney. I think
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  Speaker 3: like they're the two, so it kind of it's just
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just weird to think of Netflix,
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  Speaker 3: not like Netflix has just always been Netflix like streaming.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know's it's it's incredible to think, like
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  Speaker 2: Warner Brothers, this monster company that bought Yes Generations and
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: movies and legacy and have that huge impact, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just to think that with the revenue that it had
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  Speaker 2: and just being bought by a streaming platform. I was
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  Speaker 2: talking about that with my boyfriend yesterday and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I can't wrap my head around that, Like I can
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  Speaker 2: fathom the fact that we are in this age because
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: of course, like a lot of things happen in the
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: late you know, twenty tens with COVID and just having
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: to stay home, having to stream at home, the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the CEO of Netflix saying, well, we want to have
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  Speaker 2: you know, smaller windows for movie theatrical releases, and that's worrying,
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  Speaker 2: Like what it's going to happen to the experience of
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  Speaker 2: going to a movie theater. I am a you know
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  Speaker 2: first and foremost. I'll like always be a film enthusiast.
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  Speaker 2: I just love the whole thing of going to the
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  Speaker 2: cinema and watching movies on big screens. Like I'm scared,
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  Speaker 2: not just you know, and you know, moving a little
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  Speaker 2: bit beyond Harry Potter, like what's going to happen with
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  Speaker 2: the industry moving forward and what's going to happen to
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  Speaker 2: you know, theatrical releases. You know, we having two weeks
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  Speaker 2: of a theatrical release doesn't really you know, seem to
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  Speaker 2: hold that well, doesn't come across as good either, So
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, like it's uh, there's been a lot
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: of people just really like mourning the death of cinema
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  Speaker 2: since yesterday. So I'll just say that concerning Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess we'll see. I think that for
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  Speaker 3: like an average viewer and consumer of content, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think things will really change like for us, because again
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  Speaker 3: it's like a merger of the company is more so
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  Speaker 3: than anything. But again, yeah, I did see that some
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's film creators or people in
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  Speaker 3: the industry wrote an open letter to Congress. I just
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  Speaker 3: saw that this morning about this, Like Amy said, there's
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  Speaker 3: going to be a lot of government involvement and stuff
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  Speaker 3: about it, and I think that it's probably the impetus
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  Speaker 3: of that open letter is kind of exactly what you
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  Speaker 3: were talking about, Tom, and just like what could this
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  Speaker 3: do for the industry? And I don't know, it's just
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  Speaker 3: weird because I swear just a couple of years ago
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: we were talking about Netflix being in trouble, like and
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and not.
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  Speaker 1: Doing someone was there the months they have enough money
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  Speaker 1: to buy Warner Brothers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like, I don't, I don't know, things are I
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  Speaker 3: really thought it. Yeah, That's why I was like, I
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  Speaker 3: really thought it would end up going to Paramount, And
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  Speaker 3: it just seemed my boyfriend even said to me this morning,
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  Speaker 3: it just seems so out of black field, like for Netflix,
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, we'll see, Yeah, we'll see. But folks, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about how depressed we are that we're getting older,
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  Speaker 3: and how depressed we are that HBO Max is losing.
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  Speaker 2: To give it, we need to give it a little kick.
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  Speaker 2: It's a final episode of the of the year.
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  Speaker 1: So let's pick it up a little here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're going to move on to Yeah, we're
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: going to move on to a bit more happier news.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: So there is behind the mic. The Making of Harry
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  Speaker 2: Potter Full Cast Audio Editions Part one is now available
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  Speaker 2: to watch on the Audible and Harry Potter YouTube channels.
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  Speaker 2: This will be a two part series. Will we were
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: here from the cast and crew about the production of
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the audio editions. Nice.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: I started watching a few minutes. It's really cool. As
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I had told you guys, like in our group chat,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I did well, we had said. Amy and I had
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: planned to listen to The Sorcerer's Stone full Cast audio
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: edition on our drive to and from New York City
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: a couple of weekends ago, but that just never happens
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: because Amy and I spend the whole drive talking and obviously,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: like you know, you can't listen to an audiobook if
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: you want to chat, So we just resumed our our
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: normal programming of having Taylor on in the background while
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: we chatted. And so the world, Yes, yes, it's our,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: it's our. It's like a four and a half hour
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: drive for us, so it's a session of us for
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: you know, therapy session. But I started listening to the
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Sorcerer's Stone audio when we got home, and I have
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: to finish it. But I'm traveling in a few days here,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: so I probably will get through it. And I'm traveling.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mentioned to Tom and Amy in our
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: group chat that I absolutely love it, like obsessed, super
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: recommend listening with your headphones on. They're produced in Dolby
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: at most and so if you've got the Dolby at
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Most and if your headphones also have the ability to
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: do spatial audio, like the experience of both of them
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: is just so amazing. Yeah, the voice acting is great.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: The sound effects are so great. I love the like
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: background effects that you hear, you know, like chatter or
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: cars or things like that. The music, I'm like, where
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: are they gonna I hope they like release the score
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: for this, Like somewhere because I love the score that
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: they have. It's just like, it's so good and I'm
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: so excited to finish listening to it. I'm excited for
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: the rest of the books. And I am just so
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: glad that they did this project because it is so cool.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember asking back in you know, a few
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: months ago, like if this would be a Dolby Atmosphere feature,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and yeah, good to hear that it is.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have been. Yeah, I always have my headphones on.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Now I was listening to it for a little bit
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: without headphones, and I'm like, it's not the same. It's
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: not the same. I've got to put it on and
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: the Yeah, it's just yeah, I will continue to sing
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: its praises to me. It's completely living up to the
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: hype that I had for it. And I think now
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I'm pre ordered up until Order of the Phoenix. I'm
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: waiting like every monthly credit I get the next one.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: But I think I'm through Order of the Phoenix. Yeah,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: So if you haven't started listening to it, please do so.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: It is worth every penny that it costs to get them.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: And it's just so cool. And then watch behind the
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: scene thing because that's you know, especially if you're like
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: us and you like behind the scenes things, this will
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: be really cool to see. And I watched like the
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: trailer for it, and you can see some of the
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: actors like in the recording studio, and you know, I
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: always love hearing about you know, everything that goes into
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: producing anything.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: So yeah, really cool. So up next, uh, we have
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: a new theme park coming up. Uh Lego's first uh sorry,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: the world's first Lego Harry Potter Land will be opening
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: in Lego Land Deutsche Land Resort, and fans will be
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: able to experience the Wizarding World like never before and
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: a land full of iconic characters, locations, and new adventures.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: And to keep things interesting and this is something that
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: really kind of like took me by surprise, fans will
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: be able to stay in the first ever Harry Potter
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: themed guest accommodation. Uh So. Peter Van Rodent Warner Brothers
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Discover Glober Experiences. EVP stated working alongside Merlin Entertainments and
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the Lego Group over the years has always led to
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: unforgettable and unique experiences for fans, and we are thrilled
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: to extend the partnership with one of our most beloved franchises.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: We are always looking for new ways for the millions
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: of Harry Potter fans around the world to extend the
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: magic and further connect with the iconic films. This new
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: destination will allow fans to step into the familiar Lego
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Harry Potter aesthetic they've been constructing for for years and
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: physically experienced the wizarding world like never before. So more
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: details for these plans will be unveiled in the next
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: twelve months, so you know, got to keep your brakes
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: at They're ready for more news and advancements on this.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. I think it's something really cool,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Like I always wondered what a Harry Potter Legoland attraction
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: would look like.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I love the Lego games.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I did not hear about this. Yeah this is cool.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'll.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Never probably get to go, but I can't wait to
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: see Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well I'm probably I'll probably have some you.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Know, you're halfway there, Yeah yeah.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I'm halfway there. So yeah, it's gonna be really interesting.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I'm I love the Lego games, so I'm not a
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Lego collector. I did love Legos as a kid, but
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I did play the Harry Potter Lego games, and I
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: love them more than I did the actual Harry Potter
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: video games. So I'm really excited to see how this
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: kind of like Morris into this real tangible thing.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Very cool.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Olym Picturing is sorry, it was just that
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I just got a visual of like Nintendo Land, but
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: like Lego Harry Potter themes. Yeah, yeah, just that video game. Look.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: My favorite of the Lego Harry Potter characters is the
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: quarrel with Valdemort's head on the back of its head
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and how in the game it like spins around. It's amazing.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: They need to have that somewhere in the park.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, please, that'll be fun. Yes. And the humor side,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: because it's obviously Lego has very filled with like all
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: these kind of like you know, tongue in cheek references
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: and very like a lot of humor in it. It's
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: something that kept be cracking when I was playing the games.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: And you know, you have no dialogue, like literally no
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: one talks. I know Lego, you know now they do
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: have dialogue on them, but when they back in the day,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: when the Harry Potter once were released, they didn't used
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: to have any but just the fatial, you know, expressions
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and the sounds and everything's just so good. I had
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: a good laugh with that one. And speaking of Lego,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: onto our next bit of news. Lego efficially announced their
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Harry Potter twenty twenty six product lineup, which includes a
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: wide arrayed a wide array of sets inspired by Harry Potter,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: as well as sets celebrating twenty five years since SORCER's
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Stone hit this screens and what is coming, may you ask?
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: So we have a few sets. One of them is
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Luna Love Goods House from Deadly Hollows. Then we have
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: the Flying Ford Anglia. We have a Philosopher's Stone Collector's Edition,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: which looks amazing. I love that it has like these
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: secret compartments in it and just looks really really really
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: fun to just put together. Then we have another set
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: called Cauldron, Secret Potions, Classroom, Hogwart's Castle, The Hospital, Wing,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Cornish Pixie, Hogwarts Castle, Sorting Hat, Ceremony and Hagrid and
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Harry's Private Drive Escape.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: I was laughing because I was opening the pictures like
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: you know, in the dock, and I know that obviously, listeners,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: you can't see the pictures that we have of these,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: but one, Yes, that Philosopher's Stone Collector's Edition is so
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: cool and like clearly they're probably going to do this
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: right for all the books. And I love how it's
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: just like the perfect conglomeration of like big moments from
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: the film. But just open and look at the Hagrid
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: and Harry's private drive escape. Hagrid's face and the way
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: he's mirrored, just like at first he looks like Chewbacca
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: because the way his hair is. It's great reminder. I
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: might have to get that one just for that.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: It reminds me of the Hagrid plushy that they have
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: at Universal Orlando with the gun. I love that.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Looks I'll just send you I have took a picture
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: with it, like in one of my trips Tom. I'll
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: to send it to But like, okay, it's something about
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: how like because his hair is so bushy and like
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: how do you do that in a hard lego? And
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: clearly they tried.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm seeing Chewbacca now that you mentioned it.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, there's definitely volume in that hair, Yes.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: And just how much how far the mustache comes off
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: the face, like there's.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Like a cavern there for the mouth.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I literally again, I may have to
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: buy this set just for that piece, because I just
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: need that in my life. And then just like Harry's
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: little face, his sassy, little angry face. Oh I love that.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I love that. Well, actually, if you want to get
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: that one, I got good news because I think this
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: is one of the smaller sets, so it's it goes
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: from a price range of twelve ninety nine for the
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: smaller ones, two as staggering one one hundred and sixty
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: nine ninety nine for the SORCER's Stone Collector's addition. Oh well, yeah,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I think it's kind of like the Hogwards Express one,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: which was also pretty like very pricey. But yeah, it seems,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: you know, very I'm not too impressed by the Hospital
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Wing one though, I mean it does look cute, but
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not seeing hospital wing, like, yes, i can see
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: the floor with it, but it's just like minimal. I'm
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: not sure why they called it the hospital Wing, as
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: we were just seeing like one store of it. But yeah,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I like that you have the bogger there, like the
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: closet and looping and very prisoner of azkabank coded. Actually,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I wonder if this has no, it's not for each movie,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: so it's just yeah, so it's just like random.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Random, Yeah. Yeah, I just looked up that it looks
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: like that Lego has done I Hagrid and Harry on
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: the motorcycle before from this same scene, but it was
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: like the it looks more like the brick, you know
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: when Lego has like the ones that look kind of
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: like bricks, and Hagrid actually looks much better. And that
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: one it looks like that the Private Drive Escape is
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: going to be nineteen ninety nine.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Dollars, so that's not bad, not bad. Yeah.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well if I get it and make it, maybe
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I'll do a Patreon video of me make the thing.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Is like you said, with the Lego there's so many
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: cool Lego sets. I do have the night Bust one
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: that I bought like back when I was living in
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: the UK, and I haven't boughten any since then because
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I just don't have anywhere to display them exactly,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: And I don't you know what I mean, you don't
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: want to put all that time into building it to
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: then just take it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Apart like a puzzle, Yeah, like.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: What do you do and then what do you do
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: with it? So maybe eventually, like when I have like
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: more space and can have a bookshelf of like maybe
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I'll go back and like get some of them. But yeah,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: there's so many cool ones that.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: It's the Hawks and looks so good.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I like that one. Yeah, yeah, and I did see
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: the I went into the Lego store at my mall
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: recently and they had the Gringots one that has the
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: like underneath, like it'singots on top and then it's got
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: the underneath. That one is really cool too.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the space we need more space, we do.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to be a fan, and it's hard
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: to be a collector because like we are just like
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I keep seeing online people calling like when you just
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: buy a lot of things, it's like being referred to
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: online as like consumerism final boss and yeah that is me,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Like I buy way more than I need, way more
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: than I have space for and unfortunately it's part of
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: the life of fandom and we just constantly need more space.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, leg always just they just always now
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: it I think, Yeah, pieces.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I mean people have been complaining a little bit because
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: these they it's kind of like rehashes of like old sets,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: just like kind of like revamped, just you know, changing
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: a couple of things or just making them look slightly different.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: So people are like, we want to see this or that.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: There's still a lot of things that haven't come out,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: but I mean they have a lot of years to
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: keep producing more and more, so yeah, we'll see what
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: they come up with in the next coming years. But
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: this one looks nice. I yeah, I mean I probably
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: would have expected more from a twenty fifth anniversary celebration.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but the sorcers Stone Collector's Edition itself
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: is already like a very big set by itself, so
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: these others seem like really cute add ons to it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: So yeah, good lego And moving on to our last
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: bit of news, which has taken us only I don't know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: around thirty minutes, but definitely not least continuing with the
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: twenty five years of Magic special events and releases coming
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: in the next year, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Azkaban in Concert is coming to Edinburgh Castle for a
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: once in a lifetime evening. The event will take place
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: on Sunday, July nineteenth, twenty twenty six, and music will
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: be conducted by Benjamin Pope and then Scottish National Orchestra
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: and tickets go on sale on Friday December twelfth, twenty
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: twenty five on ticketmaster dot co dot uk. So if
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: anyone is interested, just go and snag a ticket.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: This looks but I'm interested, im A. I wish that
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: they did this when I lived in Edinburgh because I
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: lived right next to the castle.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Literally, wow, yes.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: I was on the I think I've mentioned I've definitely
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: mentioned this before in the podcast. But I did one
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: of my graduate programs at Edinburgh University and the housing
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I lived on was on the Royal Mile and it
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: was like my flat was here and the castle was here,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Like it was just right up the road of view
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: it was and I was on the top floor of
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: like a four hundred year old building. It was just
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: the formative years of life.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: If you had d please send us I will.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I mean the quality is probably really bad because again
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: this was like ten years ago, like carera quality was
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: not what it was. But yeah, I would have loved
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: this because whenever they did things at the castle, like
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I would be able to hear it from my flat
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: and like this is like if you're in the area
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: of Edinburgh, like and you can go to this, like,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: please do because it's just that is one of my
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: favorite castles that I've ever been to, and just the
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: atmosphere of that castle plus this music, plus it all, Like, yeah,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: I'm very envious of anyone who.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I have to do it. I feel like I have
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: to do it, like I don't. It's not something I
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: could do, Like I have to do it because it's
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: not that far away from where I am, and you know,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: it's definitely doable, and it's my favorite film, and you
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: know there's no reason not to go, and you know
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: it's Scotland and it's Edinburgh and it's yeah, I've been
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: wanting to go back.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Only the weather will be okay, that's the only brand
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: of the weather in Edinburgh's kind of hit or miss.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: But it's just sad that they seem to only do
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: when I do it, they only do it for the
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: one night. I think that's what maybe what makes it
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: a little bit trickier is that it seems to only
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: ever be one night.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, and as always put putting tickets in
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: advance for like half a year before the actual event
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: and the pomo happens and the whole like you know,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: ticket self best once in a lifetime. Once this goes,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: it will never come back, so you know, make sure
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: you snag a ticket as soon as possible. And you're like, ah,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: like I'm so, I mean, I love going to these events,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: but I'm tired of like spending money on things that
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: will happen like a year in advance.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: But then when you go, it's like free.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you were really paid out. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: yeah definitely.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: That's how I fought when Amy and I went to
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: hershild a couple of weekends, like, oh, I'm like wow, well,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: other than you know, our hotel and the gas and
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: all that, but the actual show was free because we
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: bought our tickets like exactly months ago.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah exactly. So So yeah that's it for
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: than news. Finally, a nap is so with you know,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: a bit more pact, but.
• 36:02
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• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, so for this week, we figured that we would
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: talk more and depthly about Harry Potter and the Curse Child.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: So obviously we've mentioned Curse Child a few times in
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: other episodes, but given that Amy and I just went
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: and saw Curse Child with obviously Tom Felton's debut on Broadway,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: and we were going to review our experience of that. Anyways,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: we figured let's just make a whole episode about Curse Child,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: and I spoiler alert, I love Curse Child, and so
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: I like jumped at the opportunity for us to do this,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to put a disclaimer oute that I
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: think this probably will not be our only episode about
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Curse Child, because there are so many things I wanted
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: to talk about here, like getting more in depth about
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: the behind the scenes stuff, because you know that we
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: all love that. So hopefully there'll be more episodes in
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: the future where we can dive into some of the
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: things we're going to talk about here a little bit
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: more in depth. So this will be our overview of
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Curse Child. We can talk a little bit about our
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: thoughts of the show when we've seen the show, and
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: then also of course Amy and I will talk about
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: our experience of seeing Tom come back and reprise his
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: role as Draco.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: So I feel we're kind of like the misfits who
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: love Fantastic Bees Kurt's Child, and you know, we don't.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of like we don't mingle with
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: the rest like we do our own thing. We're you know,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: outcast in the best way.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe we'll walk to the beat of our own drums.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, And here's the thing, Like, there's so much hate
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: for Curse Child, and it's like you can acknowledge some
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: of like the plot holes and inconsistencies and things like that,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: but still enjoy it. Like that's the entire point. Is
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: supposed to be an enjoyable theater experience, and I think
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: that people, I think the marketing did not do it
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: any favors of This is the eighth story, this is
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the eighth book. It's not a book, it's a script
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: for a live theater production. Do you kind of have
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: to experience yourself in order to get the full effect?
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Like you honestly cannot read the script and be like, wow,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: that was amazing.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: No. I wonder if a lot of those Yeah, a
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: lot of those people that say like that they don't
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: like it, and the criticism for it, like my first
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: question is but have you seen it? Have you gotten
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: to see it? Yeah? Abs, And we'll talk a little
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: bit about that too. But I think that I'm actually
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: have like a quote that I wanted to share kind
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: of right off the bat here that kind of delves
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: into that a lie little bit. And yeah, I mean
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: I think if you're somebody who's like really into like,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: you know, to what you were saying, Tom, I think
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: it makes sense that the three of us really like
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: it because we're really into like production and set design
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: and behind the scenes and costuming and props and like
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: what is a theater show? But all of those things
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: in live and in person, and so it makes sense
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: that we like it.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: But I also don't feel threatened by additional pieces of content.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: The seven books are always going to be there and
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: nothing's going to change them and nothing's going to take
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: away from them. You can have little pieces of content
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: that are extra and have fun with it. That's the
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: whole point. More truth exactly, assume it. Yeah, that's that's
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the decision.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: But yea, And echoing what Nicole said, you know, I
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: will never like you know you it's the same question
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: like I, you know, will never take anyone's opinion on
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Curse Child, you know as file word if unless they
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: have actually seen the play in person. Yeah, because it
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: changes the outlook completely. You know. I also didn't think
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: it was the best story, but I was always super
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: invested in going whenever I had the chance. And yeah,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: and I was, you know, blown away by by the
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: whole spectacle and how good and high quality it is.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: And yeah, we're gonna talk about it more, but yeah,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to wait.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Like you can tell how passionate we are about it
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: because we just went to full on swing it. Like,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: if you don't like this show, well you might as
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: well skip this episode, but maybe we'll change your opinion. Yes, sorry,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: we are Cursed Child stand. And if anything, I realized
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: ever seeing the show a couple of weeks ago, I
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: left realizing how much of a stand I am. And
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: you know, when you see our clips online, I've got
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: my vinyl behind me, I've got my original script, I've
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: got my lovely behind the scenes book here. I recommend
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: everybody to find a copy of I love this book
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: so much. Yeah, Child stand here.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: And you know what, for anyone who might think, oh,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: they're just like you know, blindly accepting anything. I will
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: put it out there that when I read the script,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I read the script book and I thought, what the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: hell did I just read?
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: But did you read the script book before you saw it?
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, see I hit yeah.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: So I went to see it and then I was like, wow, Okay,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: now I get it. So like, this isn't just a
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: like just accept everything that's thrown at you. It's just
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: it's very real. And what both of you just said
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: of you really can't get the full effect from the script.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: You have to see it.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: It's meant to be experienced live and in person. It's
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: a theater show. But yeah, that's really interesting too because
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: I will talk later about again we super jump the
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: gun here, but you know, we'll talk later about our
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: experiences of seeing it. But I actually got to see
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: it before there was any script books available, and so
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: it is interesting how that could even inform maybe your opinions.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: And I will say, obviously I just said how much
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: of a stand that I am? And maybe I will
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: add a question at the end here where we talk
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: about the things we don't like about it, and you know,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: to what you just said, Amy about not just blindly
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: accepting everything I will say. And I said this to Amy,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: like after we finished watching it a couple of weeks ago,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, I still hate the character of Delphi
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: and I hate that plot line. I don't hate that
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: she is who she is. I don't hate that plot
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: line because the story is all about fathers and their children.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I just do not like her care Like, yeah, but well, yeah,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: we'll get into that. So, like I can, I'm a
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: stan of the show, but I still have things of
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: the show that I really do not like. Yeah, but
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: it's one of those things where the prose of everything
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: far outweigh the cons for me, and I cry every
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: time I see it, and I get such in my fields.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: I ball at the end. I just yeah, we'll get
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: into that. So let's back up, right, let's back up.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: And if you're like, what even is Cursechild? Like, what
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: are they even talking about? So obviously we've mentioned it's
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: a play. Curse Child is a play. It is not
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: a musical. It is not a musical, You're not. I
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: think that's also some of the confusion, right, Like people
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: think theater show, they think Broadway musicals, Wicked, Hamilton, Cursechild
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: is not a musical.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: You're not going to go you thought it was going
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: to be a musical, though, like when when it was
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: first and JK. Rowlinge thinks she tweeted, it is not
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: a musical. Disclaimer, it is not a musical, but we
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: all thought it.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Remember, I don't remember ever thinking it was going to
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: be a musical. But I think though, I think some
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: of it is like you do hear, okay, something's coming
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: to the stage. It's a musical, right, because a lot
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: of times when you go to stage you are seeing musicals.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I've only ever seen two, like true plays in my
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: life that aren't musicals, So I do think it's a
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: more or a less common thing. But yeah, so don't
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: if you're not. If you're like, well, I don't want
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: to go see it because I think it would be
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: weird to like listen to Harry Hermione and Ron sing
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: a Broadway number. That's that's not what it is.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: It's not a Harry Potter musical.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: No, yes, no, And hopefully we never get that because
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: I do not think that that fits in this world
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: at all. So yeah. So Cursechild is a play that
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: was written by Jack Thorne and the story was developed
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: by Jack Thorne, jk Rowling, and John Tiffany and jk
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Rowling said back in twenty nineteen that collaborating on Harry
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Potter and The Curse Child with obviously Jack and John
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: has been one of the most rewarding experiences of my
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: working life, and I could not be prouder of what
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: we achieved. There is a power in live theater that
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: cannot be replicated in any other art form. And really
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: wanted to include that quote because I like, you know
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: what she says at the end there about there being
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: you know, something about live theater that just is not
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: the same as a TV show or a movie, or
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: a book, or even a musical or any other thing.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: And until you go and experience it yourself, it's really
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: hard to explain and like put into words. And I'm
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: going to reference my Harry Potter and The Kerschild the
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Journey book a lot, because there's just so much good
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: tidbits in here, and the producers of the play share
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: in that book that they knew that they were never
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: going to be able to compete with the big visuals
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: of the movies, so their intent really was to explore
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: the psychological emotional landscape of Harry grown up. You know,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: how did we have this boy who was an orphan
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: and you know, grew up with unprivct drive, with like
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: the worst family he ever could have had, and then
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: everything that Harry goes through in his life, how did
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: that person grow up to be an adult and be
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: a father, you know, especially as somebody who did not
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: have that father role in his life other than you know,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: kind of like Dumbledore and stuff. And the play explores
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: that as well and Harry's feelings about that. And the producer,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: so the play is produced by Sonya Friedman Production. She's
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: pretty well known in this landscape, and she said that
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: we knew we wanted to get back to what it
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: felt like to read Joe's books for the first time. Therefore,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: we knew it needed to be raw, tough theater, and
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: I do think that they accomplished that. So the plot
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: of Kursechild takes place nineteen years after the end of
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. So the play begins
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: at King's Cross Station, right where the epilogue leaves off.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: And I think this is also why, you know, it
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: was kind of gone on to be referred to as
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: like the eighth story, because it is kind of just
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: picking up like right where we left off. However, even
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: though this is where the play starts, the bulk of
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: the story actually takes place three years later, so we
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: kind of get the first I don't know, fifteen to
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: twenty minutes maybe of the play is very much a
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: whirlwind of like the character's first three years at Hogwarts,
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: and then we kind of like then we end up
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: in our present time of the story. But of course,
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: as we've talked about a lot in a lot of
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: other episodes, the biggest component of Kursechild is the time
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: traveling element. So throughout the course of the play, the
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: story revisits key times from Harry's story. So we see
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: the Triversard tournament, we see the Valdemore murdered, James and
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Lily Potter, and I figured in this episode that other
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: than you know, obviously we're going to mention plot details,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: but we won't delve too much into like the entirety
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: of the plot. It's like, you know, I don't want
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: to also spoil too much of it for people who
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: maybe haven't seen the show or haven't read the script,
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: but like a little bit of a disclaimer I mean,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: we probably should have put this at the beginning because
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: we've already like spoiled some things here. But we are
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: going to be discussing certain scenes and special effects in
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: the play, so like some things are going to be
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: a little bit spoiled if you're not as familiar, So
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: just listen with caution, but don't worry. We're not going
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: to discuss the entirety of the plot. And this reminded
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: me of when the play first came out, when I
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: first saw it, right at the beginning, there was this
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: whole like hashtag keep the Secrets campaign that came out,
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: and it was there to try to, you know, encourage
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: audiences that we're seeing those first shows to not talk
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: about it and not spoil the secrets. And I remember
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: that when we left the different parts, they gave us
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: a little button you know that said keep the secrets,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: And I still have those all these years. But so, yeah,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: we will try to keep some of the secrets in
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: this episode, but yeah, can't guarantee we'll keep them all.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: So our story of Curse Child, and I will say
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: one thing that I love about the title of Harry
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Potter and the Curse Child is it does not refer
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: to just one person. It can be Elvis, it can
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: be referring to Scorpius, it can be referring to selfie, Harry.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: It really, I mean, even Draco.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: And that was kind of the question when this was
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: first announced, was who was the curse Child? And everyone
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: was trying to figure it out.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Right, should be Harry Potter and the Cursed Children? Because yeah,
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's ever meant to be just one person.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: I know, obviously in the logo of the show has
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: changed a lot of bit over the years, but the
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: original logo, which again if you're listening you can't see,
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: but on the book is like this bird's nest with
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: the augury wings and it looks like it's probably Elvis
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Potter in there, And so I think a lot of
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: people think of, you know him, as being the Cursed Child.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: But again I think again, it's such a great title
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: because it applies to so many people in the show,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: and like I mentioned earlier about how they really wanted
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: this to be like a psychological exploration of like parenthood,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: and it is in so many ways for so many characters.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: But given all that, the show, the story primarily follows
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Elvis Severus Potter, who is of course the middle child
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: of Harry and Jinny, and that's who we leave the
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: epilogue with, right, like, you know, what if I'm sorted
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: in Slytherin and all this kind of stuff, you know,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: and you know, Harry is like you were after two
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: great people. And then we learned, you know, that his
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: name is Albus Severus, and uh, you know, we can
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: talk about if that was a good name for that
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: child or not, but you know, and so he's kind
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: of our main kind of person here, right, And that
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: whole that whole whirlwind in the in the beginning is
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: watching you know, him go to Hogwarts and get sorted
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: into Slytherin and like, oh my god, We've got a
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Potter in Slytherin house. And then he really starts to
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: feel that he's failed to live up to the legacy
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: of his father, the Great Harry Potter of gryffind Or House,
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: you know, and that's super important because that starts to
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: create a lot of resentment, and that's like really key
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: to the entire plot, is this this estranged relationship between
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Harry and Elvis in particular, that really starts by Elbus
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: being sorted into Slytherin, right, and then I would say, like,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: you know, our other main character here is of course
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Scorpius Malfoy, who's the son of Draco and Astoria and
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: really has come to become one of the most beloved
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: characters of this show for sure. And you know, he
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: befriends Elvis and they develop a really great relationship, and
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: that's of course such a good thing to explore, right
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: because their parents were arch Nemesis growing up, you know.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: And I would say, our other main character here is
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: of course Harry, right, Harry is always going to be
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: our main character and anything, but this story is a
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: story is also like very important to him as well.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: And you know, like you mentioned Amy as he could
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: also be referred to as the curse child here. And
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: we do get to learn where, you know, our favorites
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: are at. You know, we learned that Harry is now
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: the head of Magical Law Enforcement, Hermione's the Minister for Magic,
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: Ron is running the joke shop, you know, and things
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: that kind of just they do make sense, you know,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: and so we and I think that, yeah, I mean,
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: I think you could also pick and choose maybe a
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: little bit of like what you want to be canon
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: you know from it, but it's you know, it's not
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: just another story of Hermione, Ron and Harry, although the
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: three of them they are Golden Trio, they play a big,
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: a big part in this. But also it's really like
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: the story too of like their children, especially Draco and Harry.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Like as I just mentioned, but there's lots of other
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: characters that come up, both new and old, that we
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: know throughout the show. So a little bit about like
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: the history of you know, the whirlwind that this play
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: has gone on. Is It first premiered on July thirtieth,
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, at the Palace Theater in London, but preview
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: performed and says for the show actually started like a
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: month earlier on June seventh and twenty sixteen, So there
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: was the preview performances that happened for several weeks and
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: then it officially premiered. And I will say it was
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: really cool to see it in previews. And obviously, you know,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: we knew going into it with previews that we might
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: see things that might change it might not be there
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: you know, when the show eventually comes out. So following
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: its premiere in London, the play went on to receive
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: several nominations and awards, including Best New Play at the
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: twenty seventeen Lawrence Olavere Awards, and then Kirschild kind of
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: just went global, so the play came to America when
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: it later opened on Broadway at the Lyric Theater in
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: New York City on April twenty second, twenty eighteen. That
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: production received ten nominations and won six awards, including Best
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: Play at the twenty eighteen Tony Kirschild then went down
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: Under to Australia at the Princess Theater in Melbourne on
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: February twenty third, twenty nineteen. A second American production opened
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: at the Quran Theater in San Francisco, California, on December first,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, and the first non English production opened at
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: the Meyer Theater in Hamburg, Germany on December fifth, twenty
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: twenty one. It's also been to Canada. There was a
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Canadian production in Toronto at the Admrvish Theater that opened
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: on June nineteenth, twenty twenty two. In Tokyo, there was
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: a Japanese production in a Socca theater that premiered on
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: July eighth, twenty twenty two, and then a tour in
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: production of the show began in September twenty twenty four,
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: which started in Chicago and obviously went to several cities
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: on the tour, and it was announced I know we
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: talked about this in some episode in a new segment,
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: but it was announced this time last year, actually on
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: December twelfth of twenty twenty four, that Kirschild will be
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: opening in the Netherlands in twenty twenty six in Dutch,
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: so we'll get another, you know, another non English production.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: So the play is it's very it is expanded, right like,
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: it has gone everywhere, and so where can you catch
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: currently catch Churschild, right like, where is it currently playing?
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: So it still has a home in London at the
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: Palace Theater, still has a home on Broadway at the
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Lyric Theater, still in Hamburg, it's still in Tokyo, and
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: a new tour just started in November of this year.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: It's currently in Boston through I think it's December twentieth
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: and then it'll you know, move on from there. So
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: you definitely check to see if it's coming in a
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: city near you. I know it's going to Orlando soon
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: in January. But there's a lot of cities that it's
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: going to be going to here on the tour. I
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: actually would love to see the touring version. And Amy
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: and I were talking about this, because if you've seen
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: the show, you know that the home the theater home
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: of the show. They transform the entire theater to be
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: part of the show. So like when you go and
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: I don't remember what the Palace Theater looked like inside
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: because it's been so many years since I was there,
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: you know. But there's the Lyric Theater in New York City.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: They've got like Patronis's painted on the walls, the carpeting
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: is magical themed. There's a part of the show where
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: there's writing like all over the walls of the theaters
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: and it's like a black light kind of effect to
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: show it. And so I'm just, yeah, I'm really curious
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: to see how that translates to a touring version, because
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: of course, you can't fully transform a theater right when
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: you're touring a show.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, effects wise, that's got to be interesting because you
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: have to imagine they need to get probably three D
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: models of each of these theaters in order to pull
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: off a lot of these lighting and projection effects. That
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: they're doing. That's a lot of work.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: I know too. We had talked about that, they announced
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: like kind of recently that they were and we'll talk
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: about Actually, this is the next thing I was going
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: to kind of talk about, is how like the show
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: has evolved, and we recently found out that they're with
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: the touring show, they're like kind of condensing it even more.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: And so I do wonder if maybe that's part of
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: the way to combat some of the issues with production
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that, like what can we what do
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: we potentially need to change or alter or remove completely
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: because we can't do this without being in a home theater.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: But curiously enough, like a lot of these moments that
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: are so pivotal to the story do have these like
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: amazing effects and practical and also like visual, and so
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: I'm really curious because I will obviously they won't delete
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: those parts, but I'm wondering how they will find a
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: way about it, like like modify them, yes, because they
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: are like you know, I can already see which moments
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: they are, and of course it would be very hard
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: to replicate them, and you know, a moving and a
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: moving play. So I don't know. I just wonder how
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: they It's very it would be very interesting to see
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: one of those just to see the differences and you
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: know how they have to tone it down a little bit.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I was just thinking too about and I guess
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: this is a little bit spoilery, Like I think about
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: the literal water tank that's built into the stage, and
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: how do you do that in a touring show or
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: do they just modify that and they don't have real
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: water in that part. Yeah, I don't know. I'll have
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: to see if I can get to one of the
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: touring shows and like report back, because yeah, I'm really
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: curious how that because that's obviously a component that's like
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: built down under the stage, and I just, yeah, I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: just don't know how you would do that in a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: show that's only in a city for maybe a week
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: or week and a half. Although I guess it maybe
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: it sits down because obviously, like with Cursed Child, you
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: don't have like an orchestra playing the music. It's like
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: the recording, So maybe the tank is like down in
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: the orchestra area and you would have that when you're
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: you know, traveling to different theaters, you would be able
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: to and so do they you just have to travel
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: with this big tank of water. Yeah, I don't know,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: lots of questions like question but yeah, yeah interesting but yeah.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: So the show has evolved a lot over the years.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: It started as a two part play and was very long,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: so it was essentially seeing two plays and you could
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: either view it the same day with a short break
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: in between, or over two evenings. And the West End
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: production in London still shows the play in two parts,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: but all other productions have condensed it into a single
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: show that's like three and a half hours long. And
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: so I just want to say, like, if you ever
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: find yourself around London, like I super recommend seeing the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: play in its original two part form because the new
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: condensed version has over an hour and a half of
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: content cut. Yes, And it's funny because I've seen like
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: it now my most recent viewings of it, right is
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: this condensed version, and so sometimes I'm like, wow, I've
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: forgotten some of the things that are in the original.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: There's one scene that sticks out in my mind a lot,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: which actually it's part of Questions for Later, so I'll
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: save that. But I was flipping through my behind the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: scenes book, you know, to prepare for this episode. I
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: totally forgot, and I can't believe I forgot this, but that, like,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Hagrid is in the original show, and he's someone who
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: got cut. Lily Potter baby little well not baby, she's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: a young girl. She's cut from it. There's some other
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: things that I remember that are cut. I remember, like
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: there was another really good scene between I think there's
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: some scenes between Harry and Doubledore that got cut. There's
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: some other like scenes with Harry and Draco, Like a
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: lot of Draco's scenes kind of got cut, which is
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: really upsetting to me because it was like his redemption
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: kind of art. I remember the scene of him just
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: talking a lot about how he was really kind of
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: jealous of like Harry Ron and Hermione's friendship, and that's
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: cut from the new play, and I think that's so pivotal,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: Like I'm so sad that got cut. But I think
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: just a lot of those dialogue scenes, right, because obviously
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: dialogue takes up time and so it makes sense to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: cut those. But yeah, I completely forgot about Hagrid until
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: I was looking through this book and yeah, and I
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, he was in it.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Wasn't he still on the because I went last year.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: I do remember, Why do I have like this.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: They've cut it again because they've changed it again. So
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: like even like the show that like Amy and I
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: saw a couple of weekends ago, I think, and now
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: I can't remember because it blurs, but I think our
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: show was probably slightly different than even when Amy and
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: I saw it like three years ago, because they announced
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: another condensing of it at some point. I know we
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: talked about it in like one episode in like the News.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, he's definitely like the show that Amy and
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: I saw a couple of weeks ago, Like Hagrid is
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: not in it.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Interesting. I again, I don't remember Lily. I don't remember
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: seeing anything of Lily other than the you know, the
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: adult version of her.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: She didn't have any lines. I don't think she had.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: I think she was just there like during the train
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: sequence like she is in the film. Yeah, so there
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: was ha Grid for leos of you listening. I'm showing
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: the picture from the book and I was like, wow, yeah,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: he wasn't there. Yeah, I'll have to go back and
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: like one day, like I want to go through my
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: original script and like go through and like see this
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: is what guy like I want to mark everything that's
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: gotten cut. One of my favorite scenes in the entire
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: play got cut, which we'll talk later when we talk
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: about our favorite scenes. So that's kind of sad to me.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: And they also like changed a few things, like Amos Diggery,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: Like in the original show it was at like the hospital,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: and now it's just like at like his residence or
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: he goes to Harry's house or whatever. So the story
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: itself is still the same, but like, yeah, I just
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: recommend if you're in London and you can still see
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: the show in two parts, like please do, because there's
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: a lot of really great stuff that unfortunately did get cut.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: That was just a cool experience. You watch part one,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: you get to leave, go have dinner. Oh it was
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: so cool, go back to part two, Like it's just
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: it's it's a fun thing to do.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: I agree, And it's such a different like experience that
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: you typically don't get with the theater.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: And how they totally need to do the theater between
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the two parts and you walk back in and you're like, whoa.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: That was even cooler I think than how it is now,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: right because like now what they do is like they
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: put out new merch in between the parts based on
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: what happens at the end before intermission. But yeah, it
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: was much cooler to like leave the theater and then
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: come back and see it transformed in that way, because yeah,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: if you don't get up and leave during intermission and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: go look at the merch, like, you don't see that
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: they add this new merch and all this.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Kind of stuff.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: So yeah, and one thing I wanted to just add
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: of something that I noticed more so this time that
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: Amy and I just saw the show two weeks ago
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: than I ever have before, and I did do some
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: research online and see that, like it wasn't just me,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: this is a thing, but even more so than when
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: Amy and I saw it like three years ago. It
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: stood out to me so much. But in this new
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: condensed version, and I did read that like they've now
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: gone back and like changed this a little bit in
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: the original, So this will be different than like the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: script books, right, because the script books are original or
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: the like original, they have one hundred percent have made
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Elvis and Scorpius's relationship more romantic, where in the original
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: version and even the last couple of years it was
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: definitely more of like a platonic friendship. And like and
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: so now like Rose Granger Weasley is much more of
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: like a platonic friend a Scorpius where she was his
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: love interest in the original show. And I love this change.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: And I think I noticed step more in this last
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: one we went because we'll talk about this more later too,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: but I think that the actors that Amy and I
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: got to see as Scorpius and Elvis like really portrayed
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: it in like, so so well in a way that
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: I've never seen any other Scorpius and Elvis combo that
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: I've seen.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I noticed it just after this show.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about it after the show,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: and I completely forgot if it was just me, and
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: I was like and they and I noticed the line
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: change right away because like at the end, you know,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: Scorpius is like I asked Rose to be my friend,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: and I was like, that wasn't the original line, and
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: then just yeah, and then the scene of like Elvis
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: talking to Harry about how important how Scorpius is like
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: the most important person in his life, and you can
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: tell like Harry just like recognizes what he means, and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: like something about it just hit me way more. At
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: the end of the show that we just saw two.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Weeks the whole exchange between Alvis and Harry, and I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: forget the actual line, but Harry says something like, if
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: that's what makes you happy or something, then that's what.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: We're kind happy.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So like you get that moment a lot more. Yeah.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: And it's funny because it's like they listened to the
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: fans who were shifting Alvis and Scorpius for years and
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, I.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Always hate it that, you know, he was trying to
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: date Rose and Rose.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: And they were it seemed like they were pushing that
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: didn't make.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Sense, no exactly. And I love the fact that Harry
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: was still accepting and non judgmental and just you know,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: he knew it was coming from a place of love
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: and he just accepted his son as you know, as
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: me as part of you know, the community, like the
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: gay community. To me, it's so important to see these
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: things in these plays and things that sometimes get either
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: toned down or they get omitted or they you know,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: they were very I love that they were so yeah
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: bold to to keep it and just to make it
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: cannon and you know, it just speaks volumes to a
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: lot of people who do feel identified with this and
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: do feel like it you know kind of like really
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: touches that that you know, kind of like very emotional part.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it was lovely to see it. I'm very
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: happy that I got to see this version and the
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: way that you know, they are portrayed and the way
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: that they you know, interact in the chemistry that they have,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: it's so good, so natural. It comes off like really
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: really naturally. So yeah, it was definitely a great, great
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: change and a lot of people you know, are are
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: happy to see that finally coming, like you know, to
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: life full forward and effect.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: And it makes sense with the overall theme of the show,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: like we see Harry struggling as a parent throughout the show, right,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: but I think it's such a beautiful addition that he
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: really steps up in that moment and says and does
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: the exact right thing.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Well, And that's why I wanted to add I wanted
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: to call out this particular change because I will say
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: like and again, like if you have the opportunity to
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: go see the Broadway year seven casts, like please do
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: because like I cannot, like I and we'll talk. I
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: actually added a question later about like us talking about
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: our favorite cast or the people that we've seen, and
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: I will always love the og cast, right, They're my
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: first ones that I saw, and they're they're them, But
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: like I don't know, and maybe I'm like biased because
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: like Amy and I got to like meet the actor
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: that plays Scorpius like at the stage door after I
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: don't know, I know, and I saw Aiden. If you
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: find our podcast Aiden close, if you find this podcast,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: like gosh, Amy and I love you I instantly, maybe
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: we'll tag him in this episode.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: I thought.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: I started following him on Instagram. He is just like
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: the most precious like human ever, and I I just
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: think that like there was just something about the way that, yeah,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: that they portrayed it this in this this version that
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: really I left the show like feeling very like that's
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: like what's stuck out with me, like even more than
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: seeing like everything with Tom on the stage, right, that
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: ending stuck out with me more than ever. And so
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: that's why I wanted to add it. And obviously, right,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: we all agree that it's such a good change, and
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: I also wanted to add it to is just an
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: example about how like over the years, like this this
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: play is ever evolving, right, Like it's I think it's
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: going to continue to be ever evolving and in good
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: in like I think, in good ways, you know. And
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: I think to your point to Amy about how you
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: mentioned about how this is a really good moment for
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: Harry as well, I actually think that changing or or
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: making Elvis and Scorpius' relationship more explicitly romantic is also
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: amazing for Draco's character as well, because I think Draco
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: never says right, He never like explicitly says anything. But
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: I think that, like you know, it took kind of
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Harry until the end of the play to realize what
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: Elvis and Scorpius' relationship really was, Like I don't think
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: he fully realizes until that moment when they have that conversation.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: But I think that Draco realizes way early on, and
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: that's why he gets very upset and offensive and stuff,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: you know, like with Harry of like when when Harry
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: wants to keep them apart, these two.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Boys, Yes, what are you doing? Yes? Yeah?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: And I think it's such a good thing for Drake,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: Like I love Draco as a character, and I do
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: think Kirschild is a lot of ways like this redemption
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: art for Draco, and I think it's just it's very interesting.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: The story does a really good job comparing like Draco
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: as a father versus Harry as a father, and argue
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: like Draco is the better father ironically, given like his
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: what he grew up and his father, and I think it's.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: What his son is going through. Yeah, he doesn't like
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: show it, like in a warm, fuzzy way, but he
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: recognizes it and he understands it.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and in a way that Harry just doesn't until
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: the events of the play happen, and then I think
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: that then really changes Harry and changes their relationship. But yeah,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: like the part and like when you know, Harry admits
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: that he said to Elvis, like sometimes I wish you
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: weren't my son, and just like Draco's reaction to that
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: line of like you said that to him, Like now,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: remember too, Draco's father was Lucius Melfoy, Like you know,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: he heard a lot of right, like in growing up
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: from his dad. And even the fact that like he
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: was so bothered by that line, and so yeah, I
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: think it's just.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Probably because he knows how that feels. So he knew
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: what Alvis was feeling about that, right, because he's like
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: I've heard that from my father, and that does not
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: feel good. Can't believe you just did that to your.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: Son, right, and like look at Draco like schooling Harry
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: and parented. You know, It's just it's such a great dynamic.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: I love their dynamic in the play. But anyways, digress,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: we just love Alvis and Scorpia's here and there, and
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: I'm so glad that that ship is play Cannon now.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: And yeah, so also wanted to add so obviously we
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: talked a little bit about the script. It is available,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: you know, for you to purchase in both print and
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: digital formats, and it's been published in a few different
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: editions now, and it was a big deal when this
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: script got published. There was midnight release parties. I went
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: to a midnight release party on July thirty first. It
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: was like this joint like hairy Birthday slash playbook, Like
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: I literally went to a midnight release or a playbook
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: Like when does that ever happen?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Well, and at the time, the only place you could
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: see the play was London, so anywhere else your only
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: opportunity to know what happens in this play was to
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: go at midnight and buy the script book.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah and yeah, that midnight release party I went to
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: was actually like, it's the rehearsal edition, so I it's
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: like I have since bought the updated one, and I
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: actually don't know if the one with the new cover
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: is up, if the contents are updated at all, either
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: if it's more condensed, I'm not sure. But but yeah,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: I kind of forgot even that I did this until
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: I went and I got my original script and I
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: they stamped our books, and so I have a stamp
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: in my book that says like I was at the
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: midnight release of this book at Waterstone's Piccadilly and it
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: had the date.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I forgot I did that little yea and.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's such a good memory to me
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: because like that rehearsal edition was the script they used
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: in previews, and obviously then once it formally premiered, that
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: was when some adjustments to the script were made, and
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: then eventually when the book was republished, that's the script
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: going forward. So it's just really cool to have that
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: initial rehearsal edition that is a reminder of getting to
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: see you know, the show while it was in previews.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: So definitely a gem. And yeah, so next I kind
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: of wanted to just touch on some of like the
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: key elements of the production. But I think this is
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: definitely things that we could totally make into future episodes
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: and delve into them much deeper. But the first thing
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: that I wanted to touch on was the music and
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: sound design of the show. We've all talked so many
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: times about being fans of scores in all of the
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: Wizarding World mediums that we have, and to me, like
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: this play is no different. I absolutely like love what
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: they did with the music for the play, And what's
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: really interesting about it is that it was produced in
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: four contemporary suites. The music is all written, composed, and
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: performed by Image and Heap. The score has won a
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: Grammy Award for Best Musical Theater Album, And I think
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: one of the most interesting things about this music is
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: that Imagen did not and was not asked to compose
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: an entirely new suite of music for this play, which typically, right,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: you'd get that you'd get this new score for something
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: that you only can hear in this score or in
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: that play or but that's not what happened here. So instead,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: the production drew from her back catalog of music and
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: instrumentals from her music and stems from her songs. And
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: this is if you're familiar with Image and Heap's music,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: Like when you go to Curse Child and say, you
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: haven't listened to the Curse Child music right before you go,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: but you've listened to Image and Heap, you will recognize
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: a lot of it. Like one of her most famous songs,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: Hide and Seek, has a selection of that song in Cursechild.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: And I think it's just really interesting to do that,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: right because part of like Harry Potter and the shows
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: and I just talked about this new score for the audiobook, right,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: like we're always we have this distinctive sound of Harry Potter.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: But for Cursechild, they didn't go with it all new
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: distinctive sound. They took all these pieces from songs that
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: are already out there. But somehow they were able to
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: do it in such a way that, in my opinion,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: Cursechild does still have distinctive sound.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's so different from what you have been hearing
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: for all these years with the films. Uh now the
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: audiobook and you know, when this soundtrack came out, I
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: remember saying, Wow, this does not sound at all something
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: you know, as something we would hear from the Harry
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: Potter world. It was very unique. It had like, you know,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: that little flavor of contemporary nests to it, and you know,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: lots of like heavier instrumentation. It's not as orchestral, I
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: would say, as you know Harry Potter the film scores.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: And I love it because it just gives it its
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: own little twist, very big twist to the music one
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: hundred and eighty turn, we might say, and just completely different.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: They they don't even use the theme song. They don't,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: you know, it's you know, one in that sense, original
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: material that at the same time does not sound anything like,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: you know, something we've heard before. So I definitely, you know,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: give them props for that because it's very yeah, like
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: it's it's risky sometimes too, you know, when people have
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: been so used to hearing these songs in their heads
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: and are so familiar with it, it would have been
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: so so easy to just continue with the classic soundtracks.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: But the fact that it has its own and I
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: can see it and I can hear it in my
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: head also as I'm saying it, you know, and it's
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: stuck in your you know, it's it's it's it gets
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: stuck in your in your head and your ears, and
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: it's really really good and it's just very distinct, like
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: you said, Nicole, And yeah, I actually love that that
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: part of the of the of the play.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: It sounds so good in the theater. And I think
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: again the music, like if you go on Spotify write
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: and you listen to the the the album that's like
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: the Four Sweets and you haven't seen the show yet,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: you might have kind of exactly what you were saying there,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: Tom where you're like, this doesn't feel like Harry Potter,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: this doesn't work like this. What is this? You've got
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: to go see the show and see the music within
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: the show. Again, it's like that's gonna be the theme
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: of this, right, Like you have to just go see it.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: You have to see it to believe it, right, Like
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: it's just you can't fully experience how perfectly the music
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: works until you.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: As transitions between scenes. Yeah, it's really good.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: It all helps like everything like compounds to this, you know,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: great final result that is a combination of you know
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: those little like choreography moments with the music with you know,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: the one movements and just everything makes so much sense
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: when you see it in person.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: And actually to that point. One thing they actually talk
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: about a lot in the Behind the Scenes book is
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: how and this I guess it's like jumping ahead a
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: little bit, but that all the different departments all are
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: so pivotable, pivotal into making the things work, like making
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: the illusions work. Like it's not just about it's a
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: mixture of costuming and lighting and the music and the
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: sound design. All of those pieces play a role to
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: make the show what it is and pull off the
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: illusions and to pull off magic on stage. No one
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: department is more important than the other. They all play
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: such a role. So I just was thinking of that
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: when you said that, Tom. But some other interesting things
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: I think about the music is that, according to John Tiffany,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: about eighty percent of the music was already existing material
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: from Imagen's catalog, but it might be different versions that
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: were maybe never released by her, different stems they played
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: around with, so you might hear little bits that you're like, oh,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: I remember this from this song, but it's repurposed in
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: like a different way in the show or combined in
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: a different way in the show. And then also kind
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: of built up some tracks for them, right, So they
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: took like kind of her original stuff and then she
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: kind of built it up from there. And what I
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: think this is so interesting that I wanted to share
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: from the Behind the Scene book is that some of
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: the choices of the music very much closely matched the
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: scene that they were used in. So a couple examples
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: of that is the music that plays behind like, you know,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: the scene where there's moaning Myrtle, So the music that's
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: happening in the background is from an original song by
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: Imogen called Little Bird. And in that song little Bird,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: the lyrics go like little bird, little Bird, what do
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: you hear? And they use this song in that moment
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: because moaning Myrtle is someone that hears everything right because
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: she's in the pipes and in the toilets. I thought
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: that was really cool. And then another example of this
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: is the use of imagen song Aha, and this is
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: the music that plays this in the scene where Elvis
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: and Scorpius are top of the Hogwarts express when they're
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: caught by the trolley witch. And Imogen said that in
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: her song Aha, that song is about catching somebody like
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: out when they do something they said they won't do,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: which again just really fits in that scene, right because
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: you've got the trolley witch catching Elbus and Scorpius about
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: to like escape, and so I think that's just like
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: another cool thing and like just how much thought goes
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: into some of these things. And yeah, so I thought
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: that was really cool and into very interesting use of
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: her music. And we don't have time to dive too
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: much into like sound design like in this episode, but
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: I did want to note that they have about two
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: thousand individual sound cues in the show. Many of them
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: are not just naturalistic sounds. They had to like create
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: sounds to make it magical, right, and to make it
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: sound magical. And again, the sound design is very critical
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: and very pivotable. Pivot Oh my god, why can't I
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: say this episode there it is twice again. The sound
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: design is very pivotal in transitions, in making illusions work
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: and making the magic work. I think about you know
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: when they do transitions right, and you've got think of
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: when you go to any show, right, and they've got
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: to change stuff around on the set. One thing that
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: they do really well in the show, right is you
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: have your actors come out. They've got the big cloaks
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: on the they make this nice little swoop of their
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: cloak to cover what they're moving and taking off the stage,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: and there's a sound bite that goes with that, you know,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: with the swooping of the cloak. And that's what I
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: mean by all these little sound bites that play such
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: a pivotal role to just make the show cohesive and
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: work and flow. And I did see that or read
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: that some of the trickier sound effects that they had
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: to develop was for when we hear parcel tongues spoke
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: during the play, that that was a more trickier sound effect,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: as well as the sounds that they used during the
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: polyjuice potion scene were also a trickier one that they
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: had to develop, So I thought those were cool. And
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: then kind of speaking of obviously special effects in magic,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: so Curse Child obviously has a lot of magic, right
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: because it's set in the Wizarding World, and gosh, how
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: do you do that on a stage where everybody is
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: watching you. You don't have CGI to help you, you
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: don't have post editing to help you. How do you
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: do that? And really they do it through a lot
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: of illusions and spoiler alert, they do it really really well,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: really well.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Some of these are dare every time I go to
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: see it. I'm like, it's coming, I'm gonna catch it.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: I literally I'm so baffled by some of these things.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: And some of the illusions are really physical, like there's
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: physical things that they're doing. And then this is also
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: where when I mentioned like all the different pieces play
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: in a role, like they really use costuming to achieve
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: a lot of the illusions.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: And it's amazing that a lot of them of an
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: eye Like it's so well performed, and you know, everyone
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: has to be on cue. They have to do it,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: you know, at the exact moment, like there's no room
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: for you know, a little tipsy there going oh, like
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: you have to be like fully concentrated, you know, and
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: and it's it's a lot of pressure too for these
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: actors just to make sure that you know, it's successful,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: because one thing that if something happens and it just
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: kind of like breaks the magic, then it, you know
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: kind of like you're done for because you know, you're
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: the audience is already like lost that you know, illusion elements.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: So the way that they do it and you know,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: doing so many performances daily and weekly and just it's
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: it's just amazing, and you know, you can't not give
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: enough credit for these to these performers too, you know,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: on everything that they do, and I think it's incredible.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: Really m h, A lot could go wrong, yeah, And
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: I will say, I've seen the show what four or
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: five times now, and I've never seen anything go wrong,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: So I agree. Just tend to testament to the performers,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: the stage managers, like really everyone in that production, because
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: they've really done Yeah, such a great job. And it's
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: funny too because like even like no matter how many
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: times you see it too, like sometimes like you just
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: still like forget about certain things, or like you said,
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: something's happened so quickly, like I actually just said to
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: Amy after we saw it, like at the beginning, one
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: of the first special effects that we get is essentially
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: them transitioning from being at King's Cross train station to
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: being at Hogwarts and going from like regular clothes into
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: Hogwarts robes. And it happened so quickly. I didn't even
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: really catch it. The only and I've seen the show, like,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: and I know what happened, but what made me realize, wow,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: that just happened was the person that was sitting on
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: the other side of Amy. I don't know if she
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: mentioned if this was her first time seeing it, she gasped.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: And then that's when I was like, oh, wait, they're
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: wearing something different like some of it. It's just so
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: perfectly transitioned that you just blink.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: I was for all of her reactions throughout the whole thing.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: She was like dialed in like.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: It must have been her first time seeing this one.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: Moment I want alone.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: She was.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: Dropping.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: I would say, it's fun. It's fun to go see like,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: you know, this show with someone who's never seen it before,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: because yeah, it's brand you know, obviously, it's brand new
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: to them and must be how like parents feel, like,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: you know, when they see the magic through their children's
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: eyes when they take them to like Disney for the
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: first time, Like I imagine, like that's like how that
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: that feels. But and yeah, so again, like Amy said,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: no matter how many times you go, and I've been
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: able to sit in the orchestra and the dress circle,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: and I'm, like I've said before, like when I'm in
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: the dress circle and you're higher up, I'm like, I'm
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: gonna figure it out because I can see more, and
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: I can see the trap doors and I can see
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: and I still cannot figure out how they have done
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: some of this. And so some of the elements of
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: the Wisdom world that you will get to see in
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: the play that are achieved by these special effects is
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: polyjuice transformations, other transformations, travel to the ministry via the
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: telephone booth, travel via the flu network, moving portraits. And
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: that's just to name like a very very select few.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: There are so many more. There's also, of course, lots
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: of spells in magic, and lighting plays a key role
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: in how they make the spell work look believable. Fun fact,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: new spells were also developed for the play, So some
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: examples include vulgari, which is when a wizard's wrists are
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: bound by cuffs. And then I'm probably going to butcher
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: the how you pronounce it moliere? Yeah, we're just going
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: to say that. But it's a cushioning charm that Elbis
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: and Scorpius use when they leap off the Hogwarts express
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: And these new spells were actually developed by Thorn, but JK.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: Rowling named them, and he said that he always tried
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: to name them, but she always had something better, so
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: they went with what she named them. But he was
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: the one who developed like what the spells needed to
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: do and wanted to call out particularly the dual scene
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: between Harry and Draco that we see in the show,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: because this is one of the more complex sequences in
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: the show. From a production standpoint, there's a lot of
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: wand work, a lot that goes into creating the illusions
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: of like Harry and Draco, like levitating be twirled around
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: in the air. So this scene is insanely choreographed to
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: the millisecond. And like you said before, Tom, if anybody
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: is off by a hair, it can throw it all off.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: And speaking of that, so in the Behind the Scenes book,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: they talk about how the literal line of demarcation between
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: like what the audience sees and how the illusion is accomplished,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: it can be extremely thin at times, and that obviously
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: from a production standpoint, right, because it's like you don't
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: want your audience to see how you're doing it. But
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: sometimes the line between how they're doing it and making
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: sure the audience can't see is such a thin line
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: that they're walking and they referred to this as being
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: the fragility of the show. But this is also, like
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: you had mentioned, Tom, the brilliance of the directors and
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: the stage managers and the actors and everyone. That's where
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: we see the brilliance of everyone who does this show
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: is that they accomplish it. But again, one little thing,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: it could all fall apart. And another thing that's really
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: cool actually about the dual scene is this is one
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: scene and one of the only scenes where they do
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: allow the audience to be keyed in a bit on
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: how some of the illusions are achieved. So, for example,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: when Harry casts Obscuro and Draco, you see their kind
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: of and you can figure this one out right, because
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: the dual scene takes place in the back half of
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: the stage and it's dark, and so he casts the
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: spouse and then there's gloved hands like in you know,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: black velvet gloves that appear out of the darkness and
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: cover Draco's eyes. So of course, like you know, you're
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: kind of clued in there all right, when Draco's up
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: in the air. We've got people back there, you know,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: helping achieve that. Which again kudos to those people for
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: like holding these other actors up right. Also, like that's insane, Like.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: You said, that fine line, the fine line here is
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: literally the line of light. Like you are off by
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: just a tiny bit we're seeing you you're in the light.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: So that's incredible that they're able to keep that line
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: and keep the actor that's Draco in the light without
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: putting themselves in.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: The light, like and without you seeing their whole hand
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: around the waist, right. I did see a little hand
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: when we went a couple weeks ago when it was
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: I think it was when Tom jumped up on something,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: but like very little like it was just a little
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: like little hand.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: Or are you gonna say, Tom, No, No, I was
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: just going to say that. Yeah. It's it's just amazing
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: how fragile it is for it to kind of like
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: be able to collapse with something as small as you know,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: a misstep in the lighting. And it's it's remarkable because
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: we have to also think that these are not always
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: the same actors. So we have, you know, people who
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: fill in whenever the you know, the main actor cannot
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: you know, is either sick or cannot make it. So
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: they have to like you know, always be prepared. They
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: have different weights, they have different you know. Uh, it's
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: just the complexity is different for each and every one
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: of these performers who are portraying these same characters. And
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: you know, just having to have that level of position
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: all throughout is also like remarkable from you know, from
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: the production side, And yeah, I mean it's it's it's
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: brilliant how they seem to nail it every single time.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: And then one of the things I wanted to call
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: out here is obviously the time turner because that's like
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: such a big aspect of the show. Both in the
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: time turner kind of is like two components, right, There's
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: the actual device of the time turner, and then there's
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: the effects that they use to show that we've traveled
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: back in time. So again the effect of the time turner.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: So like when you've seen the show and they pull
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: out the time turner and all the actors like do
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: their dramatic flourish of their hands, you know, and then
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: it looks like the time turner is floating in between
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: all their hands. So this is, yeah, and this is
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: another effect that is very fragile and takes very a
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: lot of skill from the actors that are doing it.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: And in the Behind the Scenes book they talk about
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: how the performers have to really understand actually the technical
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: side of how that works, which I think in a
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: lot of shows like the actors, right, they're there to act.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: They're not there to understand the technicality of the set
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: and the props. That's for those departments. But in this show,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: I think that's where the difference is, right, Like, you
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: have to understand technically how this works, because if you don't,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: and one thing, if you deviate from whatever action you
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: need to take, it's going to mess up the entire effect.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: And then of course, like we have when the time
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: travel has been completed, they refer to it as the
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: wobble because it looks like, obviously the whole set is shaking.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: And I thought that this was really cute because in
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: the Behind the Scenes book, the producer Colin Callendar talks
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: about how he finds it really funny or to be
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: like standing in the back of the theater and hearing
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: people like talk about, wow, how did they do that?
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: And he was saying that almost everybody like gets it wrong,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: and that he has told his daughters that it's achieved
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: by stage hands outside the theater on both sides, and
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: they're out there shaking the theater. And I thought that
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: that's a really cute way to like describe what's happening,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: especially to like younger kids like, well, they're.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Just yeah, well duh, that's awesome. M But I know,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: I know, I know how it's done. I got soul.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: It's projection mapping. And I know this because I actually
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: got to interview the video designer for the show years ago.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: So the town that I live in, or the city
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: I live in, has a huge projection arts festival every year,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: and they projection map all the buildings downtown. And in
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen they had like a like a symposium and
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: like panels and stuff to go along with this. And
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: Finn Ross, who does a lot of Broadway where was there.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: And when I saw his credits included kurs Child, I
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: was like, yes, my moment has arrived. Let me in
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: this room. I am interviewing this man. I have questions. Yeah.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: So they projection map every single theater that this show
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: goes to, which is why I find it fascinating that
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: they're doing the touring version of this. But yeah, that's
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: how they do it. So is projection mapping. They're able
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: to kind of combine video and lighting to try and
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: make it look like the stage is shaking and warping
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: in the ways that it does.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's pretty cool wool.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you if you kind of look around,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: you can find the projector projectors in the theater if
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: you know what you're looking for. If you didn't know
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: to look for them, you'd never see them. But you
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: can kind of see them in the dress circle and
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: in the balcony if you kind of look. They're hidden
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: in the walls, hidden behind sconces things like that.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, again, it makes the whole touring
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: aspect of this show, like you said, even more interesting
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: because I feel like you're not going to be able
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: to necessarily hide those things when you're traveling to other
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: theaters and the way you can in your home theater,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: right because they can build the sconces there or whatever
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: they need to hide it, and you can't do that
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: when you're only traveling to a theater for a week, right, right. Yeah, Well,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: so I wanted to ask, like, obviously there's a lot
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: of really cool special effects in the show, and wanted
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: to see if you guys have any that are your
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: favorite or stand out to you like when you go
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: and see the show.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I just kind of revealed
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: that I am obsessed with the time Turner effect the
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: nerd and Ma thinks that's so cool. But also the bed,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: that damn bed where the blanket it's empty, the blanket
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: goes up, and then when the blanket.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: And Ny and Harry are there, they're.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: Under the blanket, and like I know in my head
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: there has to be like a false bottom platform underneath
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: that bed that they're laying on, and then it like
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: pushes up, but I can't figure out, Like it's such
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: a split second, like I don't know the bed.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: We talked, We talked about that after the show this
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: last time, like how the hell did they do that
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: damn bed?
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: Like I was getting stressed out about it walking around
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: Bryant Park. I'm like the bed.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: I think like our audience didn't have the right reaction
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: to that, like the girl sitting next to you that
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: was so wolid by everything else, nothing in that moment.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: It's so quick it is and you're like, well it
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: must have also been when they brought the bed.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: Out to pick it was flat.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so cool.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 3: And I think if you've seen the show before to write,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: you know, to like look because you know, okay, something's
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: about to happen there. But if you're off looking at
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: something else in the split second, and then it's like
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: you can miss that that quick transition.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually love I already said it, but the
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: whole scribbles on the wall scene just left me in
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: awe because I was not expecting that at all, Like
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: it took me by surprise. I was like, how on
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: earth did they manage to do this? Did they just
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: paint this? Did they just put these words there? And
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: what what? You know? I was not going to say
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: what it says to not be spoilery, but I think
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: that was, you know, so so good. It's you know,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: it was it's again, uh tech, you know, this whole
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: kind of like you know, lighting and also visual effects
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: and also it's it's just amazing. And then there's another
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: one that involves us, and that one is not just
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: visually outstanding, but also emotional, very emotional. I think it's
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: the one time two times I actually tear it up,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: and one was during that part. It's you know, so
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: cinematic and magical. And yes, I actually love that scene
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: with Patronis and tours, and the emotional weight of that
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: scene just makes it even better. So this is a
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: little bit you know, Argins back to what we always
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: talk about, how special effects always go hand in hand
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: with storytelling and go hand in hand with how these
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: you know, performances come off and how they are conveyed.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I think it just as a whole is
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: just magnificent. Those two just really because it's been more
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: than a year since I went there, so I really
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: need to refresh my memory, probably before May who knows,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: but yes, those two moments are definitely standouts for me.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: Uh visually, well.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: My favorite special effect is the phone moves into the
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: Ministry of Magic. I remember, yeah, I remember the very
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: first time I ever saw the show. I think I
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: was in the orchestra and I was in like the
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: third brow or something. I remember being really close for
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: like one of the times I saw it in London,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: and I was just like wowed, especially because of how
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 3: close I was sitting. And that's what I mean before like, yeah,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: coool effects that happened in the show, so it's like whoa, Okay, yeah,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 3: And I think that's why it stuck with me because
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: it's like one of the first and then I remember, like, yeah,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: being so surprised that I was sitting so close and
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: I still could not figure out how they do it.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: And then when I sat further away, I was like,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going to figure it out this time. Still cannot
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: figure it out. It just looks so cool and I
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: love just the sound design of it, the visual of it.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: It's just it. Yeah, that that just stands up to
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: me so much. That's the first one that always comes
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: to my mind. And so yeah, that's kind of you know,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: the overview of Chris Child. And thought we would talk
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: a little bit. We've obviously interjected a little bit about
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: some of our favorite things and our experiences with the play,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: but thought that we could kind of end with talking
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: a little bit more about that more guided and so
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: we've talked a little bit about seeing the show, but
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: just kind of wanted to ask, like how many times
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: we've seen the show? Where have we all seen the show?
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: Have you only seen it in one part two parts?
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: Like what has been your experience with seeing the show?
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: So I've seen it three times. I saw it the
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: first time right when it opened on Broadway with the
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: original cast in two parts, and then I saw it
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: again when we went a few years ago whenever that was,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: so there was a pretty long gap between when I
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: saw it first and second times, and then obviously the
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: third time a couple of weeks ago with Tom.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I actually almost went a couple of
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: years ago when I uh traveled to London, but I
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: didn't get to make it. And this time, when I
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: was in New York last year, I said, I got
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: a you know, really need to experience this for once
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: and for all. I was a little skeptical, you know,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: as someone who hadn't seen the show before. I had
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: my reservations with because of the story. I was very
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: disappointed when I read it when it came out, and so,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: you know, going into it, I was like, I knew
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: it was going to be something really well put and
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: it was probably going to be mind blowing, but I
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: just didn't know, you know, to you know, to what
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: degree it was just going to leave my job completely
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: open for multiple moments and just made like you said
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: before me, like it just makes all, you know, all
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: of it makes sense when you actually get to see
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: it in person. And so yeah, I went to the
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: Layric Theater in New York, and uh, everything like you
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: guys already mentioned, like you know, the tapestry and and
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: the decoration and just how it's everything you enter. It's
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: like you enter this world of magic from you know,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: the beginning. It's not just like okay, yeah, it's just
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: the stage. No, No, it's a whole interactive experience. Yeah,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: and you already have like little hints of things that
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: are going to happen. You see some patronises here and there,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: you know, some like like it's it's not paint. Well yeah,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: they're basically painted to the walls. And yeah, it's uh yeah,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: I'm that was the one time I actually have to
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: do it now, especially that you know, if the London
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: production has like the whole of it still you know,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: it's still playing it both parts entirely. Yes, I'm very
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: very curious to see it. And also it's you know,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: birthplace too, because it's the first place, so I have
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: to make my way into it. And uh yeah, hopefully
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: it will be soon.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, I got up to go get my
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 3: original tickets so I can remember. Oh and so the
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: first time yeah yeah, and I love these tickets. So yeah,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: the first time, well there is where I got in
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: the mail, like you're the box office. So the first
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: time I saw it, like I mentioned, I got to
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: see it during previews in London. It just so happened
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: that Kirschild came out the year that I lived in
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: the UK for the first time. So I saw it
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: the first time on June eighteenth, twenty sixteen, Orchestra. Im. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: I was in ro C twenty one, so that's the
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: one where I said I was in the third row.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: I saw it in two parts, and I saw it
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: in two parts on the same day, so like, I
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: saw it the first one at two and I came
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: back at seven thirty, and then I saw it again
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: after it officially premiered in London on August third, twenty sixteen,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: and I sat in the dress circle and that's when
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: I quickly learned that the dress circle is my favorite
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: section to watch the show in. And then I saw
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: it on Broadway for the first time with Amy in
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 3: that April twenty twenty two, and that was my first
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 3: time to seeing it in just one part. And then
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: obviously saw it again a couple of weekends ago in
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: Broadway again with Tom. So that is my experience seeing
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: You both are like really casually saying oh yeah with Tom,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: like no big deal.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: He was there, Yeah, well yeah, and it's really funny
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: because I've had some people like message me about like
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 3: the photo that we posted of me and Amy like
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: meeting Tom. And I do feel like I'm really nonchalant
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: about that as well, because I know how fortunate I
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: am to have met Tom before, and I don't take
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: that lightly. Especially the interaction I had with him the
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: first time I met him is not a typical fan interaction,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: you know, so, But yeah, I guess, yeah, we are
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: kind of talking about it very Yeah, we understand how
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 3: how lucky and fortunate we are in life.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: Don't worry. We we froze on the sidewalk of New York.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: We understand he.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 3: Almost went off with my process.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: And for seeing it. They both have their Tom Felton shirts,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: so yeah, we know how how appreciative you are.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: It's the it's like the that I met Little Sebastian
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: T shirt that's this is that.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: Tom Felton, It's like, you know how, and the shirt
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: that Amy and I both there's two different Now we're
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 3: gonna get a little on a tangent here, sorry y'all,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 3: but there's two different designs of shirts that you can
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 3: get at the theater. And I knew instantly. I like,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 3: wanted this one, but this one has Tom's signature on it.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: And I guess I'm glad for that because Amy and
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: I were not able to get his signature photo.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: With him, get to autograph. Yeah, so, you know, I
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: tried to talk him into signing things. I told him
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: how to get rid of the sharpie on his hands,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: which he said was the excuse as to why he
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't signing. He didn't buy that. He you know, he
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: was doing photo.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: I saw a video on TikTok where he gave He
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: talked about that same story with other people too. He's like,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: they don't want me to sign because I'm getting sharklet
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I've heard this story.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: I heard gave you sos.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: I know and again again. Mistake of my life was
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 3: not having my phone on video when he took my
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 3: phone and that interaction will forever be upset that I
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: did not have my phone on video during that, but.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: All the women around we didn't try to explain him.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: You just use hairspray. It's fine, just use hairspray.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, I wish I had that interaction on my phone.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: Tom had my Tom had my phone in his hand
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: during this whole interaction, That's what I mean. But I
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: had it in selfie mode and we'll talk a little
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 3: bit more about this in our next segment. But I
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: wish I had it on video so I could have
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: captured this whole interaction. But but yeah, anyways, back on topic.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: So we've kind of like we've kind of started our
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: show with this, But like, what is everyone's overall thoughts
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: of the show.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I already kind of explained this,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: but I went from skeptic to believer when I actually
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: saw it in person. I love this show to me,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: I guess to me, it's not really like the same
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: as the books, and that like I don't view it
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: as like a continuation. I view it as its own thing,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: and I feel like they have done such a good
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: job at that with making the costumes different, like the
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: ones look different, like everything is like kind of its
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: own thing for this theater world. But yeah, it holds
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: a very special place in my heart. I love this
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: show so much, and yeah, it's it's beautiful.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I shared the same opinions I think. I again,
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: I already said this a few minutes ago, but yeah,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: I went in skeptical turned believer and right now, like
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: I have a different appreciation for the show, and it's
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: a lot higher in that regard. And I don't again,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: like you said, Amy, like I don't see it at
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: an actual like continuation of the story, even though it
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: was marketed as one, you know, like marketing one and one,
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: and just you know, we know how that works. We
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: know they want to sell with we know how the
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: how the machine works. But yeah, like it's still a
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: good you know, on its own for the purpose it
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: was created for. It fulfills it and takes it beyond,
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: i'd say. And one thing that's funny is so I
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: remember saying, oh, who's gonna buy Christal Merch? Like this
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: is an insult to Harry Potter whatever. I ended up
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: buying Magnets. I ended up buying Harry's wand which I
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: never thought I would because you know, but I was
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: just you know, in such awe and just so so
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: pumped about you know, what I had experienced. I started like, oh,
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: this is cute, this is cute. And I also took
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: like one of the programs like the books. It's not
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: the hardcover one, but it's the one that's kind of
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: like softly the pictures. Yes, I also took that, so
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: I was surprised at myself. I almost got the scarves too,
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: but I was like, no, no, I'm just gonna you know,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: this is gonna be it, but you know, next time maybe.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: But it was funny because I never expected to spend
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: money on first child Merchant look at me now. So yeah,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: it's pretty much like a before and after experience, and
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: definitely recommend anyone who's skeptical about it too if you
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: have the opportunity, do it at least once in your life,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: because it's one going to change your you know, the
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: outlook you have, your perspective of this play.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 3: I think to one thing that's nice about this show
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: as well is like I think, even if you're not
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: a Harry Potter fan, but you're a fan of theater,
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: this this also should be a show that's on your
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: radar just from a production standpoint, regardless of if you
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: don't have an emotional attachment to these characters or to
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 3: the story. I think anyone who's a theater nerd would
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: completely just be in awe of the special effects and
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 3: the things they're able to achieve on the stage for
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 3: the show and yeah. I mean obviously I started off
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 3: the show by saying, I'm a stand so I love
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 3: this show. Like you said, Amy, I do see it differently,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: Like I don't like watch Goblet of Fire or read
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 3: Goblet of Fire and be like, oh, Elvis and Scorpius
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: are in the background in the scene, like you know,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: like that's never gonna happen to me. But I do
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 3: think there's moments of the show that are canon for me.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 3: I think scenes between Dumbledore and Harry talking about everything
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: to me, that's very canon, and you can tell that
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: like JK. Rowling like wrote those scenes and like wrote Dumbledore.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: It's very her and like her writing, I think a
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: lot of the I think for me, it's like a
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: lot of the dialogue heavy scenes like in the original show,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: when like Harry and Draco are talking about things. To me,
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: I see that as canon. I think, like, I think
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 3: some of them more like outlandish plot points, like like
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: the trolley witch, Like I'm.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: Pretty sure at that point reading the script book, my
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: friend Steph was sitting next to me reading her script
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: book and I just like threw it down. I was like,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: all right, I need a snack.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: But it looks on stage right, it's so cool.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: This one moment, I was like, how on earth are
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: they going to you know, put this in, Like how
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: are they going to even manage to to pull it off?
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: You know? But they do and it works and it's
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 3: so funny and it's such a great part of the show.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: But like, yeah, if you're just reading the script book,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 3: you're like and then you're picturing like the actress from
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: like the movies and like her becoming that Yeah, yeah,
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't think that, I don't
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: think that's cannon per se, but it looks good for
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 3: the show. I think, like, you know, who are who
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: are character of Delphi? Who she is and how she
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 3: came about is a little I don't I don't know.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 3: Amy and I talked about that a little bit after
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: the show, and I think, again, I don't want to
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 3: super spoil it because it's a big part of the show,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: but like, I do think that some of it is
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 3: believable to me. But like though also just the way
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 3: that they end up doing it, I'm just not a
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 3: fan of like her character and like the like I'm.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: Character the caretaker of Amus diggery and like confunded.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make it so, and then being the like,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 3: oh that might be. I might know it a little
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 3: bit with the whole Augury plot line. But then I
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 3: think who she is is actually even though most people
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 3: had a problem with who she was. That's actually the
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 3: part of it that makes the most sense to me.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 3: Not saying that I think it was a good choice,
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 3: but I actually can see how that could have actually.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: See it happening. I don't think it's possible, Like I don't.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe we need to make that an extended Patreon conversation
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 3: at that point, thoughts couldn't happen?
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: Boiler filled conversation.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: Well, I want to talk about how I think it
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: could possibly happen.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: I will need you on that, yes, because right now
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not I cannot I have seen.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: I have some questions about Baltimore's capabilities.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, don't you don't spoil.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 3: Don't spoil what.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure by this point if you're a fan
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: of Harry Potter you probably know this.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, because I guess even if you haven't
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: seen or whatever, it obviously made rinds and stuff like that.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 3: But but yeah, I do think like the second half
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 3: of the play and towards the end, it kind of
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: loses it a little bit because everything starts it's like
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 3: so great and it's such a good psychological exploration and
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 3: it's so deep and it's so into the emotional. But
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 3: then at the end, right, you've got to have think
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: of any play that you see, or any musical or
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 3: Broadway show, there's always these climactic moments, like I literally
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: just saw Wicked the other night, and so I think
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: of like the end of Act one when we get
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: like defined gravity, and like you know, you always get
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 3: these big moments, and then sometimes at the very end,
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 3: these shows just kind of fumble because they're like they
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 3: have to wrap it up, and you're like but, but,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 3: and it just doesn't make sense. And unfortunately, I do
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 3: think Herschild suffers from that wrapping up effect. And unfortunately
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 3: that's the case even in the play that's like six
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 3: hours long, almost like it's still an issue there. So
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 3: that's my biggest problem with the show. But again, I
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 3: think if you don't see it as cannon or I
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 3: don't know, maybe you're like me and you see parts
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 3: of it as canon and some of it not as canon,
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 3: And I think that's okay too.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that, Like I feel some
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: parts of it do feel like they were written by JK.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: Rowling directly the whole. I remember hating the play for
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: the most part, but just reading Dumbledore and Harry scenes
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: was like, Okay, this is what I was in for, Like,
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: this is what I was expecting to read. This is
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: a kind of like character interaction that I needed. So
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: some of these characters really sound you know, they do
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: feel like themselves. I hear people saying, no, I don't
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: feel like you know Hermione is completely different. And Ron
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: is just like this, you know, uh, comedic relief in
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: the play, which he is actually like he is he
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: is and we love a comic relief, like we do
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 2: love that character, and you know we it's it's great because.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 3: You need someone to be the comedic relief, right and
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 3: who I mean, who else?
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Even even you know, Draco has some lines where
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: he's like, you know, I you know, I never thought
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 2: i'd be I was.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm mildly enjoying it. And to hear Tom fell.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: In say that, you see, that's one of the things
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 2: like you have to experience those things, like how are
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: you not going to see Tom Felton like, mm hmm,
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: maybe he'll go to love who.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 3: Like maybe maybe his old.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: I forgot what we were talking about though we went
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: through a change.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think, yeah, I think I think
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 3: in summary, we obviously are big fans. We really love it,
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 3: but we do recognize there are issues with the plot.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 3: There are things about the show and the plot that
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 3: we don't do, not like, But I think the overall
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 3: experience of all of it does overshadow some of those
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 3: plot points. And I think really where this show shines
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: is in the special effects and the production and also
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 3: the character deep dives and exploring that emotional psychological like
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 3: like I mentioned at the beginning, that's where this play
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 3: really shines, is exploring those characters in a way that
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 3: you only kind of can in a play. That's where
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 3: this one really shines. And that's where I feel like
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 3: they do feel exactly like their characters. Yeah, in my opinion,
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 3: but yeah, like what are like, do we have any
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 3: favorite scenes that we think of favorite like props or costumes.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 2: Any scorpious scene, like, uh, scorpus scenes are great, even
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: though they're not particularly like very like you know, like
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 2: flashy or you know, there's too much going on, like
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: it's very like, uh, it just really draws you in.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: Of course I love like I mentioned the dementor scene,
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 2: the I think it was the streaking shack right that
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: they are in that scene.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's too many Yea with Hermione.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: In Rocky and when they you know, go back in time,
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 2: the whole gang and they watch that moment. That's so
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: for not just for Harry, uh we talked about this
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: private privacy previously, but for us as fans who have
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: been following his story, it just feels like such a
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: full circle moment and it's so emotional and uh, you know,
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 2: even if you hate it that that you know that
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 2: play that scene, if you're a fan, you know, we'll
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: obviously just feel so genuine and it will play your
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 2: heart strings and just really get you very very emotional.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 3: The scene causes emotional I think of that means it's
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 3: very hard to hear, like it is.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: Very hairy's like scream sob like it's and.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 3: Just hearing like it's awful. The murder, Yeah, and the
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 3: way they the way they do the sound of that scene,
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 3: and it's just it's just like a total like I
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 3: literally just got chills actually, like true chills just thinking
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 3: about it, because it's just like the surround and it's
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 3: like it's like you hear it behind you and around you,
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 3: and it's like Valdemore is like, oh God, it's just
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 3: yeah yeap. Which is funny because the first time I
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 3: saw that show, I don't know if I really love
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 3: the idea of ha seeing that, and again, I don't
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 3: know if that's something I consider cannon of like oh,
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 3: Harry and all of them were standing there and saw this,
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 3: But in terms of the emotional impact and what it
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 3: has on the character development, I love that scene for that.
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's up there. That's I think my top scene
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 2: It's good that we share it.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 3: M I was gonna say, yeah, we all kind of
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 3: overlap a little bit because the dementor stuff is my favorite.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 3: And this is why again why I mentioned that the
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 3: dress circle has become my favorite place to sit for
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 3: the show because you're not super high in the balcony.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 3: But I do think especially the dementor scene that I
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 3: love the most is actually the one that's right before intermission,
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 3: which is the first time we see the Dementors. There's
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 3: something about just that scene the music, the way that
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 3: Dementor flies out into the audience. And again, this is
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 3: why I think sitting in the dress circle is that
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 3: you get the best view that scene. I just love
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 3: everything like about that scene. It literally gives me chills,
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 3: and they look so freaking real, Like I'm like, oh my,
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 3: like it literally get I know it's fake, but like
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 3: I literally am like, wow, I'm so invested, Like it
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 3: literally looks like deventors are flying around this theater right now.
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 3: They just do such a good job with that. And
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 3: I just want to add the dance scenes as well,
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 3: because that's like the one part that like really reminds
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 3: you that you're seeing a theater show. And there's two
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 3: major big dance scenes that I think of that I
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 3: really like. There's like the wand dance scene and then
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 3: I love Sorry the Slytherin in Me is coming out,
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 3: but I love the death theater one that happens at
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 3: the start of like the second part when you come
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 3: back from intermission. It's just so cool when they like
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 3: walk to the back of the stage and they all
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 3: disappear because they're in the dark, and then there's like
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 3: the fog and they just come through it. Like they
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 3: just operated. Oh it's so cool. It's so cool.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: And what I love about those like tiny like quote
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: unquote musical moments is the fact that they're not musical.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 2: So even if you're not a fan of musicals and
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: you don't like them, because there's a lot of people
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 2: who don't enjoy musicals, that's not something that's going to
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: throw you away at all, Like it's not something that
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: you're going to feel like, you know, this is no
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: this is like every other play. Like it's very minimalistic.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 2: It's very like it they just use what's necessary and
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: they you know, and and it just works. Even if
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: you're not a fan of those like big musicals. It's
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: just really tiny moments that really allow the story to
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: move forward and also give it, you know, that little
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: that little twist of a Broadway production as well and
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: theater production that you see, which are I also love
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: and I love speaking of dance scenes like the whole
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: when when you know Albus is trying to master you know,
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: spouse with his wand and everyone's like, you know, moving
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 2: the wand is making them move from one place to
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 2: the other, just trying to cast magic. Like that part
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 2: is so good. And it's so well choreographed and I
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: just love it. It's and it's so well conveyed, like you know,
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: it's not you can literally feel like the magic is
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: pulling them from one side to the other, it's pushing them.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: It's just like and I you know, at first, I
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: was like, this could come off as a little a
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 2: little cartoonish, but it actually doesn't, and it works really
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 2: really nice.
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember going years ago at New York Comic Con.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 3: They had a Curse Child panel, like when it was
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 3: opening in New York City, and they talked a little
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 3: bit about the choreography and just like doing that scene,
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 3: and unfortunately I don't remember like specifically what they had said,
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 3: but yeah, that's a really that prist scene is a
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 3: very one of the most choreographed scenes, so really cool.
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 3: And I just wanted to mention because I mentioned earlier
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 3: one of my favorite scenes is actually one that's cut
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 3: from the condensed version. But there's a really great scene
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 3: from between Harry and friends our favorite centaur in the
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 3: Forbidden Forest, and I love that scene and it's so
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 3: sad that it got cut, but it makes sense why
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 3: in the condensed version it's been cut, But I just
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 3: love how that scene looks. I like how they created
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 3: a centaur on stage with a real actor, you know,
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 3: playing a centaur, And so I just wanted to mention
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 3: that one as well, because that's one of my favorite
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 3: scenes and one of my favorite costuming moments. And yeah,
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 3: I got to get back to see. I really wish
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 3: they had recorded the original. There was talks. I don't
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 3: know if you guys remember a few years ago there
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 3: were some rumors floating around that there had been some
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 3: film rights acquired for the show, and some people were
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: wondering if they were going to film it and release it,
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 3: you know, like we've got Hamilton on Disney Plus or
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 3: if there was also talks. I think Chris Columbus had
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 3: said something one point too that he would love to
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 3: adapt it into a field. Like there's been a lot
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 3: of rumors. I right, there's there's a reason why it's
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 3: a stage show, but there's been a lot of things
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 3: floating around. But I do hope that one day I
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 3: will say that I think recording it will take away
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 3: some of the magic, like some of those illusions, like
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 3: you just have to.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: See in person to do it justice.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, it won't do it justice,
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 3: but I would love to have it recorded as in
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: its entirety, as just like a piece to head and
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 3: to be able to watch it and yeah, to memorialize
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 3: like the whole show and these scenes like the centaur
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 3: scene where you know, if you go to Broadway right now, you're.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tricky because I was thinking, like, I don't
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 2: think I remember seeing a centaur, so obviously, like I
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 2: think that was probably condensed already from last year.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 3: So it's like it's a little I think that was
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 3: one of the first things that got cut and when
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 3: they made it into one show.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's uh.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 3: Because again it's a scene of dialogue, right, so it's
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 3: like do we actually need this? Does it move the
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 3: story forward? It does, but it's a good for nostalgic purposes.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 3: It's such a nice scene.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: I wonder if your book has like you know, mentioned
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: what things got caught eventually, uh the scene, you know, yeah,
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: like different scenes, and because it's good to have like
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 2: a record of that because otherwise you're just you know,
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: basing it off your memory and it's a little blurry
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: sometimes and you know, obviously you're not going to remember everything.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 3: I know, it doesn't because I think this book came
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 3: out while it was still possibly like the two parts.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 3: I think i'd like really have to go through and
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 3: look at like the book and compare if they've made
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 3: the script book condensed too. But yeah, there's some lists
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 3: online if you google it. Some people have like started
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 3: compiling lists. But yeah, we did lose a lot of
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 3: really nice stuff in the you know, in the condensedeness.
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 3: But but yeah, so funny. We thought this would be
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 3: a really short episode, but clearly we have a lot
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 3: to talk about with Kurschild. But I didn't want to
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 3: move on before Amy and I can talk about like
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 3: our review of seeing the Year seven Broadway cast and
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 3: seeing Tom Felton replies reprise his role as Draco Malfoy.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 3: I want to make sure that we have time to
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 3: talk about that, and yeah, do you want to go first, Tavy, Sure?
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean obviously, seeing Tom Felton as Draco again
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: after all these years is such a cool experience. Like
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: I feel like if you are a big fan of
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: Harry Potter, you have to go and see him in
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 1: this role. Like I was anticipating the place going crazy
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: when he walked on stage, and they absolutely did. Like
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: the moment that he enters, everyone is so excited, and
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: then there's another moment where he brings back the scared
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: Potter line and the place went wild. We were eating it.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 3: Up, like yes, and I can't remember is that line
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 3: in the original or did he I did not think
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 3: it is. Let me grab a script. I didn't think
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 3: so either, let me grab a script.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: I think that was We've got to do this. He
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: even he puts the line in his face and does
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: the whole little scared and.
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 3: Then you know that Harry after says you wish and
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 3: everything too.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah. But I think overall this cast was really
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: really good. I mean, I know, we already talked about
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: Aiding Clothes as Scorpious. He was perfect in that role.
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 1: Emma Smith as Albis was so good.
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 3: I think they're my favorite Scorebus Combo and that's even
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 3: after seeing the original cast. Like I think they might
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 3: be again, it might be recency biased because we just
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 3: saw them and we got to meet Aiden, so I
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 3: feel like affinity, but like there was something about the
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 3: way the two of them portrayed that character that really
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 3: stuck with me in a way that like, I mean,
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 3: they're my third Scorbus that I've seen and it stuck
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 3: with me in a way that others haven't. And if
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 3: I believe it's both of their's Broadway debut, they played
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 3: the characters I think in the touring version, if I'm
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 3: not mistaken, but this is their their first time on
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 3: Broadway playing the characters, which is obviously such a great
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 3: career moment right to be on Broadway.
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, no, they were great. This cast was
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: excellent all around. Hermione was great. I don't recall her name,
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 1: the actress, but I don't have very good job too.
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was a very good cast. So definitely,
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: you know, like you go for Tom, but like you're
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: you're getting a full incredible cast.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 3: Well it's like they're all so good. So it's like
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 3: even when there are scenes when like just like because
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 3: there's some scenes where Draco is just kind of like
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 3: on the stage like with the parents, and it's like
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 3: part of you. Like, in my opinion, I don't think
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 3: the fact that like Tom Felton was standing there, at
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 3: least for me, didn't take away from every anything because
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 3: the other actors are so good, Like I wasn't just
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 3: sitting there watching Tom just stand on the stage. I
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 3: was watch I was engrossed in what we're supposed to
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 3: be watching, you know what I mean. And yeah, I
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 3: just echo everything that like Amy said about seeing Tom,
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 3: especially as someone who's just grown up as such a
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 3: fan of Tom, Like I just feel like such a
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 3: sense of like pride, even though literally he doesn't know
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 3: who the heck I am, even though we've met a
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 3: couple of times, and you know, I just it's and
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 3: it's so cool to see him in this role and
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 3: he obviously knows this character like so well. And not
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 3: that any other Draco that I've seen, They're all great,
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 3: They've all been great, but there is something really special
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 3: and nostalgic about seeing him. Yeah, hearing that line the
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 3: dual scene between Draco and Harry is like just to
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 3: the next level. I think getting to see Tom in
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 3: that role. I wanted to mention too. I absolutely loved
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 3: the actor that we saw as Harry this time. I
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 3: do love Jamie Parker, like I think he's probably by
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 3: far my favorite Harry on the stage. But we got
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 3: to see an actor who just recently came back to
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 3: this role and his name is John Skelly, and he
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 3: actually was part of the original gear One cast, is
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 3: just an ensemble member, and then he went out and
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 3: he played Harry in the San Francisco production, and then
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 3: he was in the touring and then now he's just returned.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 3: This is his first time returning back to the Broadway cast.
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 3: So to go from an ensemble member to Harry and
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 3: a lot for a lot of people I've seen online
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 3: he's one of their favorite of all the Harry's and
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 3: I completely see why. He just did such a great job,
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 3: and so yeah, I really liked him too. But yeah, again,
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, this was supposed to be us talking about
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 3: seeing Tom. I hear we are talking about the other actors,
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 3: But that just shows how great all of it is.
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 3: Like it's like you you go and it's like, I don't.
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, of course this time we went to see
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 3: Tom because we've seen it before, but then you just like,
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 3: but you stay for all of it and it's like
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 3: and it just he works so well in it, and
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 3: it does Again, I don't think anything about him being
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 3: there pulled me out of seeing the show. It just
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 3: seemed like I was seeing any other actor play Draco,
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 3: just that you have that added bone of like hearing
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 3: the voice that you're obviously his voice now is very
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 3: different than when he was a kid playing Draco, but
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 3: it's still like you know him right, so you know
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 3: in the voices him and the mannerisms.
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 2: And but you wouldn't necessarily say than the others. It's
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 2: just that they has that nostalgic, you know, feel to
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 2: it that makes it extra special. Not because he's not
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: because he's not amazing as Draco. He knows it inside out.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: But maybe you know, like they all did a great job,
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: and they all really knocked it out of the park,
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 2: but you know, just it's Tom has you know, it's
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 2: Tom Felton. Like what else can we say?
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I probably paddle a little more
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 1: attention to Draco than I have pastime seeing it.
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think from an actor's strength, I mean,
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't even say that Tom was the best actor
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 3: on that stage, you know what I mean? And obviously
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 3: he's not. This is his first stage role, and acting
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 3: for stage is very different than film, and I will
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 3: say that unfortunately, in this more condensed version, Draco does
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 3: do a lot of just like standing around, like a
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 3: lot of the lines and stuff that Draco had is
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 3: part of like what was cut, so like, yes, you're
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 3: there and you're seeing Tom, but like I said, he's
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 3: not the centerpiece of a lot of the you know,
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 3: the scenes that he's in. And you know, I think
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 3: about the scene when like Hermione and Harry are like
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 3: addressing everyone about Harry scar Herding again and Draco slash.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 3: Tom is kind of just there in the corner. Like
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 3: in that scene, I'm not sitting there just staring at Tom.
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 3: I'm watching Hermione and Harry, and then once Draco comes
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 3: in and says his stuff, then my attention is switching
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 3: to him, you know. So like I think that he
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 3: just blended so seamlessly in and I was a little
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 3: nervous about that that it would be such a spotlight
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 3: on him, but at least to me, it wasn't. Like
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 3: I still completely watched the show, but like, of course
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 3: it's like just that added bonus, right that, like it's
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 3: Tom Felton on stage and he has some moments that
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 3: where he gets to really shine. But yeah, I mean
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 3: I think if you have the opportunity to go while
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 3: he's still on this run, like please do because I think,
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 3: especially as someone who's been a lifelong Harry Potter fan, Like,
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 3: it's such I think it's such an experience that like
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 3: we'll never have with anyone else or again or like sorry,
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 3: hair Dan is never going to come and play Harry
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 3: and Heirs child right Like it's just never gonna happen.
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 3: So it's like I think, like this is definitely an
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 3: opportunity to not miss if you can.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 2: They did have a reunion a couple of days ago.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that, yes, and it was so nice
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 3: and they're so strong and.
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 2: Look at us millennials, I think too.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 3: Because we're like similar age to them and everything too.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: Literally, yeah, we were going through our teens, they were
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 2: going through our teens. Uh you know, I literally grew
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 2: up with them, So it's just extra special and that
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: in that regard, And did.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 3: It feel and to see the supportiveness right like.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, I was just going to ask
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 2: you as like if you ever like if it ever
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 2: was weird seeing Tom interact with these actors even though
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: he is Draco. It's like the multiverse, you know, like
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 2: now we're putting people from it. Did it ever like
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 2: look a little like but you know, or did it
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 2: just seemlessly like integrate.
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 1: I think it worked. I mean I had on the
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: costume everything, Yeah, everything seemed very natural.
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think, like I think I mentioned too
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 3: that I thought it was all seamless, and I don't
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 3: think he ever stood out. And I think that I
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 3: never looked at it and watched him like talking to
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 3: Harry and be like, but he's not talking to dam
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 3: what Like I think that it's and maybe like for
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 3: some like maybe And I think I've talked about this
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 3: with like the TV show and how I think I
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 3: might be more accepting of the TV show than others
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 3: because I do think I've worked really hard to like
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 3: separate these mediums. And I think that, like with the
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 3: stage show, again, I think that's something I was nervous about,
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 3: Like I mentioned, whether he would take the spotlight or
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 3: if it would make the other characters feel weird because
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 3: now we've got this multiverse happening. But I think it's
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 3: such a testament to how amazingly these other actors embody
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 3: Hermione and Harry and Ron and like all those characters
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 3: that we know that, like when we have that duel
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 3: scene between Tom Felton as Draco and Harry no, it's
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 3: not Dan, but it absolutely feels like something that you
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 3: would experience between Draco and Harry. There's no question about it,
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 3: because these actors that play Harry just do such a
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 3: great job in embodying the character of Harry. And I
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 3: think that if you can take that mentality like it
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 3: really helps to then go see the show. It helps
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 3: to like when the TV show comes out. And I
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 3: think I've said this before about at the end of
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 3: the day, like, yes, those actors and their faces like
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 3: have built up a nostalgia for us, But at the
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 3: end of the day, like it's the characters, right, and
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 3: if they embody the characters. And obviously there was a
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 3: lot of controversy over the like the casting of Hermione
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 3: when the show came out and everything, and I'm sorry,
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 3: but every actress I have seen play Hermione and the
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 3: show has done an amazing job and I have never
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 3: once questioned that that's not Hermione. And so yeah, he
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 3: just blends in really well because these characters just I
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 3: don't know, they just they really do such a great
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 3: job at and you know, and I think they almost
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 3: have a harder job, right because they're portraying these characters
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 3: as adults, and we don't have any material of them
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 3: as adults right the books. All we have is a
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 3: little bit of an epilogue, But we don't have a
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 3: film version really of Harry as an adult. We don't
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 3: have Hermione as an adult, whereas in the TV show
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 3: they do they you know what I mean, they get
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 3: to see these characters. So I I think it's just
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 3: such a testament to how much these actors and actresses
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 3: really learn the personality of the character that they're able
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 3: to still embody that character as an adult and still
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 3: feel like them. So long wind answer, But no, I
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 3: think it's just me singing praises really of every single
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 3: cast they've ever had for this, But no, Tom blends
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 3: seamlessly and with them, and they blend seamlessly in this time.
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, happy to hear that.
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's us talking about Kursechild.
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 1: It's about to leave, grab on to the port key, Okay,
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 1: So for this porty segment, we did want to continue
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 1: our discussion about Tom Felton in Cursechild by talking about
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 1: the stage door situation in New York City. So, if
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 1: you are planning to go to the show, or if
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 1: you're just planning to go to the stage door. You know,
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 1: we won't judge. It's a process to try and meet
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: Tom Felton at the stage door. So we wanted to
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: kind of walk through our experience in this and things
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 1: that we've noticed in what's been working for people and
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 1: what maybe hasn't been. So, you know, like I said,
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: it is a process. Set your expectations accordingly in aka
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 1: it might not happen, and leave yourself the opportunity to
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 1: try multiple times if you're going to be in the
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: city for you know, more than a day. So what
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about these are all observations that
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 1: we made while we were there, come with talking to
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 1: other fans in a little bit that we've been seeing
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 1: online as well. So something that has come up is
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 1: the ticketed versus non ticketed situation. And this has to
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 1: do with obviously, when you have a famous actor and
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 1: a Broadway show, people who are not going to see
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 1: the show are still going to show up and line
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 1: up outside the stage door hoping to meet that actor.
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 1: That's not unique to Churschild. That happens all the time.
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 1: That's how I met Dan Radcliffe. It just it's a thing,
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 1: but Obviously that's super frustrating for the people who are
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 1: in that show and then come out and there's nowhere
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 1: to line up. So the theater has started blocking off
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 1: a section of the barrier at the stage door specifically
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 1: for people who exit the theater from that show. So
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 1: if you do go early and you don't have tickets
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: for that performance, you can still line up at the barrier.
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: They'll just start to you about halfway down, and then
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 1: they save the other half of the barrier for people
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 1: who are inside the theater at that moment. That said,
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: that ticketed section of the barrier fills up super super fast.
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 1: If you are not sitting in a section that can
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 1: get out of the theater fast enough, you're probably not
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 1: getting to that stage door. So yeah, just keep.
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 3: Having said that, Like we've talked in other segments about
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 3: like theater etiquette, like please don't like leave before the
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 3: show's over to like get a spot, like please like
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 3: during bows, like give the cast like their dues. Like
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 3: it's just like, yes, it's great to be to get
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 3: to the stage door and the barricade and all of that,
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 3: but like there is still theater etiquette, you know. Yeah,
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 3: that's all I kind of say about that, but I
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 3: will say the theater, the ticketed part is kind of
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 3: down when you're walking down that street, there's like a
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 3: poster of him, and it's like kind of that area.
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 1: It's like great by the exit doors basically. So yeah,
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 1: So all that said, obviously we kind of knew from
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 1: where our seats were it would be really hard to
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 1: run out and get the barriers.
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 3: So but we did it. Spoiler our alert.
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 1: We did. But I think the only reason that that
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 1: happened was it was a matinee, which so they knew
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 1: he wasn't going to talk about later. But yes, I
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 1: think that's the only reason we were able to do that.
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 3: Either way, it still worked out for us because we
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 3: got to re meet some people from the night before
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 3: and get their autographs on their their playbill, which we
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 3: didn't get to do the night before. So yeah, so.
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 1: First tip, get there early. We kind of found getting
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 1: there about an hour after the show started worked out
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 1: just right. We were able to get a spot on
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 1: the barricade just fine. We went on a Saturday night
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 1: when the show started at eight pm, and we got
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: to the stage door at nine pm. Now that's it.
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 1: If we had gotten there at like nine point fifteen,
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 1: probably no spot on the barrier, Like it filled right in,
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 1: like right after we got there, So definitely get there early.
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 1: The show is three hours long including intermission, and Tom
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 1: comes out about forty minutes after it ends, so you
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 1: will be waiting. Dress warm.
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is New York is it's winter. Amy and
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 3: I were not prepared, even as New Yorkers, we were
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 3: not prepared for the cold. We waited for three hours.
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: The nice Canadian girls next to us, you know, they
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 1: were decked out and like full on winter hats, they
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 1: had their hot coffee, they had chairs. We were just
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: kind of like weighing it. So dress warm. Yeah. Also,
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 1: you know, make friends with the people around you because
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be there for a while, so chatting with
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 1: people around you might be your only entertainment at that point.
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 1: You're kind of in for a few hours of waiting.
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 2: Prepare your backs.
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 3: Then yeahs my back still hurts weeks later from standing
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 3: and my just not move. And the thing is like
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 3: once you're at that bear, like we had a very
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 3: wind small window of like being able to move because
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 3: we were at the barrier, and like you have to
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 3: hold your own at the barrier, people will come and
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 3: try to move up and squeeze in. Not everybody is nice,
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 3: right for the most part, Harry Potter fans are lovely,
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 3: but not everybody is respectful. Right. You have to hold
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 3: your own if you get up at that barrier, and
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 3: then once people start filling in behind you, you, yeah,
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 3: you basically are locked into that spot. Your feet, your ankles,
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 3: your entire body. You are barely way.
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 1: Yet behind you.
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It reminded me of when I used to go
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 3: to concerts as a kid and be in like mosh pits,
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 3: because the people will get right up behind you, in
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 3: the back behind, you know, because they're trying to get
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 3: as close as the barricade as poss and honestly, because
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 3: if you think about, you're trying to fit this crowd
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 3: on a sidewalk on a sidewalk cut in half.
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 1: Because they moved the barrier out from the wall.
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 3: Yes, and then it's the street of New York where
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 3: there's tons of traffic, there's only yeah, yes, yes.
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: So another thing to note is he seems to be
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 1: doing less and less autographs at the stage door, so
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 1: just you know, don't get your heart set on getting
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: an autograph because it probably won't.
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 3: Happen in very sporadic who he'll sign Yes.
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 1: The girls next to us at the barrier said that
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 1: this happened the night before when they were there as well.
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: He signed a couple things and then stopped signing and
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 1: was really just doing group selfies, which.
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, you're gonna have people in your photo
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 3: that you don't know, blur them out like my phone. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 3: he took my phone, held it out, everybody kind of
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 3: got in and then after I air dropped the photo
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 3: to all the people around me on their iPhones and
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 3: then yah, yeah, like you know, you saw the picture
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 3: we posted. We just kind of blurt out their faces.
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 3: But if you're looking to get your picture just you
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 3: and Tom and a signature, unfortunately, I think maybe he
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 3: did that like the first week, but it's a lot
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 3: too much.
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 2: It seems easier to get a picture at a con
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 2: with him. Then all of this on the.
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 3: Signing takes so much time, and like like I.
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 1: Said, the show that we went and did this for
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 1: didn't start until eight pm, so.
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 3: It didn't come out till like, what was it eleven
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 3: or something else, So he's just trying to get home
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 3: and they have a show the next day, like there,
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 3: and he even.
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 1: Said when he came out, he's like, I'm going to
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 1: do this as quick as possible. I got to go
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 1: feed my dogs.
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 2: Right, So it's a willow and what's the other name? Oh,
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 2: they're so cute.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think that's too also, like tempering your expectations, right,
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 3: because I will say I've seen some other videos of
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 3: Tom meeting fans and like you could tell the night
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 3: the heat that we got to meet him, he was
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 3: so exhausted, Like you can see it in the photo
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 3: that like we posted, he's barely smiling, he is. He
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 3: looked so exhausted. Actually felt very bad for him him.
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 3: But then I've seen other videos of him being really
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 3: chipper and laughing with everyone and stuff like that, and
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 3: so I think just really tempering your expectations, Like he
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 3: is a human being. He's doing eight plush show, it's
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 3: really late at night, Like, yeah, he's been through a lot.
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 3: He's had people be grab at him, He's had to
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 3: stop signing because people have not been ruly at the bear. Like,
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 3: just please remember he is a human being. And if
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 3: you don't get the experience that you thought you would
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 3: get with him, he's a human being.
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, which really goes into my next point of
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 1: do not yell at him when he is going down
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 1: the line. He will skip over you. I've seen it
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 1: on Instagram. It's a well known fact. He does not
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 1: like people yelling out you know, it's my birthday over here, Like, no,
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 1: don't do that, because he's going to skip that whole group,
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 1: and then you've just ruined it for everybody else.
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 1: Also, don't push. He's been very vocal about calling out
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 1: people for trying to push to the front. Just act
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 1: like a normal human being, please, and just be orderly
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 1: and respectful and you know, all those things and.
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 3: The question to ask him. I have seen people ask
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 3: some very inappropriate questions about Emma Watson, like all this
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff, like why, just like Tom, you were
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 3: great in the show, like really, like I just thanks
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 3: for coming out right because we don't. And the thing is,
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 3: the stage door is not a mandatory thing. It is
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 3: a bonus and they and it's just like, I don't know,
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 3: I just have seen so many videos on TikTok that
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 3: I'm just like have secondhand embarrassment for what I've seen
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 3: people do like that.
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have like this parasocial relationship that yes, yes.
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's it. I think like if
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 3: we're at the very first like month of him doing this,
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 3: and if we want him to continue to come out
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 3: and do the stage door, I think he wants to
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 3: meet fans, Like we have to just be respectful and
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 3: like you said, Amy, like orderly and just a normal human,
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 3: or else he might stop coming out.
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 1: And I will say the night we went, everyone was
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: very good in order.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 3: At least section I don't know which, like further down.
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 1: It's fawty because we all were kind of laughing. The
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 1: security people were being so intense about this situation. But
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 1: like we're literally all standing there, like women, ages, just
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 1: like hanging out, and we're like he's being super intense
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 1: for us, just.
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 3: Like he's like yelling at us just standing here.
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 1: But like obviously they've had some bad crowds, so yeah, hopefully,
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 1: you know, hopefully the bad ones don't ruin it for everybody.
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so the next thing is the show schedule,
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 1: And this matters because he doesn't really come out after
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 1: every show, right, So some days there shows at one
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 1: pm and seven pm. Other days it's one pm and
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 1: eight pm. There's you know, some Sundays where there's just
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 1: a three pm show, So it kind of matters which
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 1: one of those you're aiming for whether or not he's
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 1: gonna come out evening performances. I don't think there's been
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 1: one yet that he has not done stage door. For
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 1: that said, like Nicole mentioned, he was clearly exhausted after
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 1: that eight pm show when it was almost midnight by
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 1: the time he came out that door. So maybe, you know,
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: if you want him to possibly take a little more time,
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 1: maybe don't go to the late show of that eight pm.
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe try for one of the days it's at seven pm,
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 1: or one of the days when there's just that single
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 1: show at three pm, because I could see him taking
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 1: more time after that three pm show. But yeah, the
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 1: Mattine shows when there's an evening performance, he's not going
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 1: down the line. He's been just coming out the door,
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 1: he waves, gets in his car, goes, So yeah, I'm
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: thinking your chance to have the stage stoor experience with
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 1: him is probably evening show or Sunday three pm. And
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 1: then the last thing that we kind of noted because
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 1: we did see the stage door twice once when he
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 1: was coming out and once when he clearly was not.
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 1: The biggest tell of that is the police presence outside
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 1: the theater. The first night when we win there was,
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 1: like I said, the security was a lot more intense.
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 1: They were yelling at people to move and stuff like that. Right,
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 1: that's kind of your first clue that, Okay, they're stepping
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 1: up security. And then right around intermission time NYPD showed up,
• 2:39:09
  Speaker 1: so then you've got the added police presence. Right the
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 1: next day after the show we actually attended, when we
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 1: went to stage door, there were no police. And this
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 1: was right when the theater was letting out and actors
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 1: would be coming out the door, So that was kind
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 1: of the tell of, yeah, he's not coming out. So
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 1: that is one clue if you happen to be in
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 1: the area of the lyric and just kind of like
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 1: check it out. If there's no NYPD, probably not happening
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 1: at that showing.
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 3: And I think that's a really important tip because I
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 3: will say a lot of people have done tip videos
• 2:39:48
  Speaker 3: on like TikTok, and I've heard like no one else
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 3: really talk about the police presence. But that was something
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 3: that like Amy and I noticed immediately, They're not going
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 3: to have NYPD and use those resources to come to
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 3: the stage door if he's not coming out. But yeah,
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, and I think, like and it's great to
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 3: be able, Like I think, even if you can't get
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 3: at the barricade, I think it's still worth it, like
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 3: standing there because like I said, like he's he is
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 3: doing a lot of these groups. Like I said, I shared, Yeah,
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 3: we're so many people in our picture and I shared
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 3: it with all of them, and so they have a
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 3: picture with Tom still and it's a fun experience, like
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 3: the camaraderie with everybody. And yeah, and I just the
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 3: only other thing I want to add about this is
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 3: that it's great meeting Tom obviously at the stage door,
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 3: but also don't miss the opportunity to meet these other
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 3: actors as well. Obviously these other actors know that all
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 3: of these people are out there for Tom. Obviously I
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 3: think some are there aren't excited to meet them too.
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 3: But like we had both days that we went on
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 3: the same acts actually are the ones that came out. Well,
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 3: there was additional actress that came out the nighttime, but
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 3: maybe they came out and we maybe we left because
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 3: we had to drive home. But both days we got
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 3: to meet the actor who plays the sorting hat, the
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 3: actor who plays James Potter, and he has a couple
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 3: other roles too, I think, wasn't he also Cedric, He's
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 3: got a couple of roles. And then we mentioned Aiden
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 3: who plays Scorpius, and then got who else did we meet?
• 2:41:28
  Speaker 3: Oh my god? Or was that it?
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe that was the three the one who plays McGonagall.
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 3: She came out and the Saturday night. So yeah, and
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 3: they're happy to like and they'll take more time, right,
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 3: they go down, they'll sign, they'll take pictures.
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 1: We saw an a dormal interaction between this little boy
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 1: and Aiden clothes. It was so it was so precious.
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, what was his what's his name? Lorenzo?
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 1: He was he was real prod him for his review
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 1: of his performance in the show. And the little boy
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 1: was very honest. She's like, think about it.
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 3: It was so cute. It was so cute. But yeah,
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 3: they had some really great interactions. I remember like, yeah,
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 3: it was like the actor who played James, like because
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 3: and I obviously that second day we were wearing like
• 2:42:20
  Speaker 3: hufflepuff and Slytherin stuff and he said something to Amy
• 2:42:23
  Speaker 3: about like, oh, like a hufflepuff because obviously he plays Cedric, right,
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 3: and then he looked at me and he's like, oh,
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 3: we can be friends too, you know, as a slytherin
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 3: and like they're just so people.
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 1: Were like as a sorting hat to sort them, you think,
• 2:42:36
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 2: And also you've been ling, you've been landing there for
• 2:42:40
  Speaker 2: like hours, you know you might as well just you know,
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 2: also stay in for the other actors. You get a
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 2: few signatures, a couple of autographs, a couple of selfies.
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they come out first, Okay.
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he lets them have for a moment and
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 1: then he comes.
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 2: That's actually Tom's You're like last we tour open up,
• 2:42:57
  Speaker 2: you know how the opener goes before the actual like
• 2:43:00
  Speaker 2: the artist takes the center stage and you know, otherwise
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 2: people would start leaving and they leave.
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 3: If Tom came out first, they leave, and like, please
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 3: don't do that. These other actors are so great, like
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 3: I said, Amy, and I completely fall in love with
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 3: Aiden and our interaction with him, and he is so
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 3: sweet and yeah, so definitely go to the stage door
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 3: for Tom, but again stay for everyone else too.
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 2: I think these are great for the show.
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 3: Go go for Tom, stay for everyone.
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 2: These are great tips. It's actually pretty much like you know,
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 2: it's not to burst anyone's bubble or anything, but it
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 2: is about like being realistic about what's possible what's not.
• 2:43:38
  Speaker 2: If you're thinking about taking your dream selfie with Tom Feltlin,
• 2:43:42
  Speaker 2: well that's probably not going to happen because there's going
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 2: to be a bunch of other people in your picture,
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 2: and you just have to be like you said, you know,
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 2: like it's we have. It's something that you have to
• 2:43:51
  Speaker 2: be grateful because it's not something that you're not entitled
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 2: to that and it's something that they don't owe you
• 2:43:55
  Speaker 2: or anything, you know, because people will always say, oh,
• 2:43:58
  Speaker 2: but you know, we buy their merch We buy this
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 2: and that from them, so they owe it to us,
• 2:44:02
  Speaker 2: and it's you know, it's them being thankful, which is
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 2: very nice, and obviously people appreciate that a lot, but
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 2: also it's not something they have to do. If Tom
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 2: is exhausted and he just wants to go home, and
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 2: you know, he's a thirty eight year old man, you know,
• 2:44:17
  Speaker 2: and obviously we do get tired at this point in
• 2:44:21
  Speaker 2: our lives and we do get exhausted, and you know,
• 2:44:23
  Speaker 2: people have to be more understanding and you know respectful.
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 3: Think to your point, like what they owe you is
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 3: the performance that you paid the ticket for. And I
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 3: think we also have to remember there's a lot of
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 3: shows they have to put on every week, and if
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 3: you want other people to not miss the opportunity of
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 3: seeing Tom on the stage, he is not always going
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 3: to be able to come out because he also has
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 3: to maintain his health to be able to even do
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 3: the shows. Because imagine if you went and you found out,
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm getting the understudy for Draco today. Like,
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 3: I think Tom is probably going to do as much
• 2:45:00
  Speaker 3: as he can in his power to make sure he
• 2:45:02
  Speaker 3: is the one performing every single show. But he's human,
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 3: and these are probably going to.
• 2:45:07
  Speaker 1: Get twelve to thirteen hour days that he's working on
• 2:45:11
  Speaker 1: these days that there's two shows. When they have two shows,
• 2:45:14
  Speaker 1: think about it that way. If you're pulling a twelve
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 1: thirteen hour shift, you just want to leave.
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 2: And he's also promoting a movie at this point, like
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 2: he's also doing you know, other things. It's not just
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 2: the play at this point. So yeah, it's a lot
• 2:45:26
  Speaker 2: on his plate.
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 1: Live in the moment, if you get an interaction with him,
• 2:45:32
  Speaker 1: enjoy that. Interaction, because you're going to remember that memory
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 1: more than you're going to remember some group selfie with
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 1: twenty people, right, So just you know, be in the
• 2:45:43
  Speaker 1: moment and just enjoy it.
• 2:45:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, once in a lifetime opportunity.
• 2:45:47
  Speaker 3: That's a really good point to Yeah, a really good
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 3: point to end on because I think you know our
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 3: amy and I said that we didn't get his autograph, absolutely,
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 3: especially as people who have met him before and like
• 2:45:58
  Speaker 3: but haven't gotten the autograph. But at the same time,
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 3: like we had such like a cool interaction with him.
• 2:46:04
  Speaker 3: He almost walked off with my phone, Like he almost
• 2:46:07
  Speaker 3: literally stole my phone, And it's like and those things
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 3: are really fun, right because how often do you have
• 2:46:14
  Speaker 3: like those kind of interactions with the.
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 1: People next to us, like realized what was happening and
• 2:46:18
  Speaker 1: they're like the phone phone.
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 3: I was like, And then he came back and I
• 2:46:24
  Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, do I have to yell
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 3: at Tom Fellon to give me my phone back?
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, just report the theft.
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 2: The phone you just got, the phone you just got.
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 3: I just got almost left with Tom Fellon or he
• 2:46:37
  Speaker 3: almost passed it, probably to someone else because he didn't
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 3: remember who he took it.
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 4: From you know, imagine getting like okay, you know, like
• 2:46:45
  Speaker 4: he took phone and say like, okay, here's my take,
• 2:46:48
  Speaker 4: like I got my phone quote stolen Tom fell In that.
• 2:46:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not even mad about.
• 2:46:58
  Speaker 3: Hope he enjoys my tailor swifts. Yeah, so.
• 2:47:10
  Speaker 2: Last episode we asked our listeners what form do you
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 2: think Mutes Patronas would take? So we got a cobble responses.
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 2: Jerry says that this is probably not what Jakie Rolling
• 2:47:22
  Speaker 2: had in mind, but my personal head canon is that
• 2:47:25
  Speaker 2: Mutes patronis, at least after the events of Secret at Dumbledore,
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 2: is very unique. It's a Boutruckle writing on the back
• 2:47:31
  Speaker 2: of a Niffler, and she says, and probably a very
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 2: specific pair of buddy And of course if she had
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 2: told us that, it would have been a spoiler, not
• 2:47:41
  Speaker 2: on the official Patrona's list, but Mute is a very
• 2:47:44
  Speaker 2: special person. She also comments that I also liked the
• 2:47:48
  Speaker 2: idea of a salamander fortina flash salamander eyes both gold stain.
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 2: We talked about that also, and we all agree that
• 2:47:59
  Speaker 2: it's a good it's a good take on his fortronas
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 2: on Mute's dad, and this is really interesting that she
• 2:48:06
  Speaker 2: brought it up. She says, I thought I remembered him
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 2: being mentioned in the conversation between Nute and Theseus that
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 2: took place in Nute's apartment in Secrets of Dumbledore a
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 2: deleted scene, so I had to go and watch it,
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 2: and he was. But just to throw away line when
• 2:48:19
  Speaker 2: Theseus is singing the song that he had youthed to
• 2:48:22
  Speaker 2: calm the chill in and Nutes end up singing along,
• 2:48:27
  Speaker 2: Theses thought it was a song that their mother had sung.
• 2:48:31
  Speaker 2: But when the final line is that the Muggle is
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 2: wondering if he's in Hell or in then she says
• 2:48:40
  Speaker 2: maybe it was one of dad's drinking songs. So not
• 2:48:43
  Speaker 2: much evidence, but it does convey the impression that the
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 2: parents are both dead. Far too many of the important
• 2:48:50
  Speaker 2: characters in the wider world have absent parents, probably because
• 2:48:54
  Speaker 2: filling in all those minor characters would have further complicated
• 2:48:57
  Speaker 2: an already complicated world. And I actually watched that scene
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 2: now that Jerry mentioned it, and it is suir like
• 2:49:05
  Speaker 2: they they literally, you know they, it's it's a great scene.
• 2:49:09
  Speaker 2: I remember seeing it once. I never went back to
• 2:49:12
  Speaker 2: it again, but it's those little tidbits that you know,
• 2:49:15
  Speaker 2: kind of like fill in the blanks a bit and
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 2: give you a little bit more context. So that's spot on, Jerry. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:49:23
  Speaker 2: thanks for bringing that up.
• 2:49:24
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that scene.
• 2:49:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah too. But that deleted scene raised the point
• 2:49:30
  Speaker 2: of how did theseus recognize the baby chillin? It's a
• 2:49:34
  Speaker 2: very rare It is very rare. Apparently, perhaps this is
• 2:49:37
  Speaker 2: another indication that theseus was actually more interested in Mute
• 2:49:41
  Speaker 2: and Mute's interest that Mute and the viewer think, hmmm. Yeah.
• 2:49:51
  Speaker 2: He does also mention in the scene that Dumbledore told
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 2: him to check up on him.
• 2:49:58
  Speaker 1: Ah, so maybe Dumbledore knew.
• 2:50:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Uh. It's an interesting scene too because you
• 2:50:06
  Speaker 2: see theseus going into his suitcase briefly and he's kind
• 2:50:12
  Speaker 2: of like looking for uh dick, was it dick to me?
• 2:50:17
  Speaker 2: The one that Hermione uses on Ron when he oh, yeah,
• 2:50:22
  Speaker 2: didn'ty Uh, So he and he kind of knows where
• 2:50:25
  Speaker 2: things are, so he's familiar with that, so he's not
• 2:50:28
  Speaker 2: so like we we would have thought of him as
• 2:50:30
  Speaker 2: you know, oblivious or you know, uninterested in the world
• 2:50:35
  Speaker 2: and mutes world. He I think that's actually a very
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 2: telling scene and it, you know, really shows that relationship
• 2:50:42
  Speaker 2: between Brothers and how it just goes a bit more
• 2:50:44
  Speaker 2: beyond than what we think, uh in the previous film.
• 2:50:48
  Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely if you don't remember, check it out
• 2:50:51
  Speaker 2: again because I think it's actually pretty pretty good. It's
• 2:50:54
  Speaker 2: almost a four minute scene. So yeah, so yeah, again,
• 2:51:00
  Speaker 2: thanks for bringing that up, Jarry. And she ends up
• 2:51:04
  Speaker 2: on this note saying that looking forward very much to
• 2:51:06
  Speaker 2: hearing about your New York trip and Curse Child with
• 2:51:08
  Speaker 2: Tom Felton. Also the latest on the New York Carry
• 2:51:12
  Speaker 2: Potter store.
• 2:51:13
  Speaker 1: Well, you've got three hours worth, Garry.
• 2:51:16
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Jerry, I hope that you enjoy
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 3: the three hours worth. I mean, obviously we talked about
• 2:51:21
  Speaker 3: some other things, but yeah, I guess to just throw
• 2:51:24
  Speaker 3: on I guess the New York store, I mean, the
• 2:51:25
  Speaker 3: New York store was kind of the same as always.
• 2:51:28
  Speaker 3: They actually had less Harry Potter New York specific merch
• 2:51:32
  Speaker 3: than they've ever had. They had some new ways to
• 2:51:37
  Speaker 3: display the wands that were nice from the last time
• 2:51:39
  Speaker 3: I was there, and they had it decorated for Christmas,
• 2:51:43
  Speaker 3: of course, and they had a little like trail where
• 2:51:47
  Speaker 3: you could pick up and it you just fill in letters,
• 2:51:51
  Speaker 3: so they had Christmas trees planted around the store, and
• 2:51:55
  Speaker 3: on the tree there was all the trees had a
• 2:51:57
  Speaker 3: different theme. It was really cute, and they had an
• 2:52:00
  Speaker 3: ornament on there that had a letter in it and
• 2:52:03
  Speaker 3: you write the letter down and then at the end
• 2:52:05
  Speaker 3: you've got all the letters and you unscramble them to
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 3: figure out the word. And to mine and Amy's embarrassment,
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 3: we struggled so badly. We're like, and now that we
• 2:52:18
  Speaker 3: know what the word is, it feels so stupid that
• 2:52:21
  Speaker 3: we couldn't figure it out. Well, yeah we did. We
• 2:52:26
  Speaker 3: had a little bit of help from a worker who
• 2:52:28
  Speaker 3: gave us a couple hints, but yeah, I don't know
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 3: something about those letters just didn't look like they formed
• 2:52:35
  Speaker 3: a real word. But then once we figured out the word,
• 2:52:37
  Speaker 3: it's like duh. But that was a really fun little
• 2:52:41
  Speaker 3: like scavenger hunt around the store that they don't typically have.
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 3: And we had a little button and it's like.
• 2:52:47
  Speaker 1: The Hogwarts and the snow image. So it's very cute.
• 2:52:53
  Speaker 3: That was from this year's designs. I will say this
• 2:52:56
  Speaker 3: is really interesting. But obviously Amy and I were there
• 2:52:58
  Speaker 3: the weekend all November twenty second and the twenty third,
• 2:53:02
  Speaker 3: and they were basically completely out of all of the
• 2:53:05
  Speaker 3: Christmas merchandise, which is insane because it wasn't even Thanksgiving yet.
• 2:53:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's because they think they have nothing store
• 2:53:12
  Speaker 1: like on the website too, so I think people buy
• 2:53:15
  Speaker 1: them website honestly, that makes sense.
• 2:53:19
  Speaker 3: So like, yeah, all that stuff that we had talked about,
• 2:53:22
  Speaker 3: they really didn't have any of it left. I bought
• 2:53:24
  Speaker 3: a pillow cushion cover that was literally fifty percent off
• 2:53:27
  Speaker 3: because they were trying to just get rid of them.
• 2:53:29
  Speaker 3: And it's not old stuff, it's literally the stuff from
• 2:53:31
  Speaker 3: this year. So if you're looking to go there and
• 2:53:34
  Speaker 3: get a new Christmas Spirit jersey or the Christmas socks
• 2:53:38
  Speaker 3: and all that really fun merchandise we saw, I mean
• 2:53:42
  Speaker 3: towards the end of November, they didn't have it. A
• 2:53:44
  Speaker 3: lot of the ornaments were paid.
• 2:53:46
  Speaker 1: Should order more stocks, that's for sure.
• 2:53:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was very surprised to see that seasonal room
• 2:53:53
  Speaker 3: so empty. Good for my wallet.
• 2:53:56
  Speaker 2: But yeah, and finally we got, uh, very the point
• 2:54:05
  Speaker 2: answer from the Good, The Bat and the Boy podcast,
• 2:54:08
  Speaker 2: who says a salamander.
• 2:54:10
  Speaker 1: So again, salamander's getting all the votes here.
• 2:54:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to go. We're gonna go with that.
• 2:54:18
  Speaker 3: I will say. There's Reddit threads too of people like
• 2:54:20
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out what his patronus would be. And
• 2:54:22
  Speaker 3: I think that a salamander is also one of the
• 2:54:24
  Speaker 3: most common ones that come up for him as well.
• 2:54:27
  Speaker 3: So I think we're on. I think we're onto something,
• 2:54:30
  Speaker 3: especially now it's connection to Tina and everything, like Jerry
• 2:54:33
  Speaker 3: brought up. I think I think that could be it.
• 2:54:37
  Speaker 3: I just that's so funny though, like case salamanders are
• 2:54:39
  Speaker 3: tiny and just like picture on this little thing likerowing
• 2:54:42
  Speaker 3: up to this or does it come out and it's
• 2:54:45
  Speaker 3: a big salamander because.
• 2:54:47
  Speaker 2: That would be scary.
• 2:54:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like an elephant size salamander.
• 2:54:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:54:54
  Speaker 2: So for our discussion question for the next episode, we
• 2:54:57
  Speaker 2: want to know, uh, your thoughts about what do you
• 2:55:01
  Speaker 2: think about Harry Potter and the Curse Child. As always,
• 2:55:06
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• 2:55:08
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• 2:55:11
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• 2:55:31
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• 2:55:35
  Speaker 3: us talk about what we mentioned earlier about the byproduct
• 2:55:42
  Speaker 3: that is Delphy Diggrey. Yeah, I think that could be
• 2:55:47
  Speaker 3: fun to discuss on an extended episode.
• 2:55:51
  Speaker 1: And just a reminder that our next episode will come
• 2:55:54
  Speaker 1: out on January eighth, twenty twenty six. So we hope
• 2:55:59
  Speaker 1: you have a really great holiday season and a happy
• 2:56:03
  Speaker 1: and safe new year, and we'll see you in twenty
• 2:56:07
  Speaker 1: twenty six. Until then, I'm Amy, I'm Nicole, and I'm
• 2:56:15
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