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Chuck & Buck 5-20 Hour 1: Piggyback Piggyback Piggyback! Mariners Morning After and Eastern Conference Finals Game 1 · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 4: Fair enough, you know, as as someone who has run
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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's an eternity. Yeah, it's an eternity.
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Speaker 5: I definitely fit in the number two in that time.
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Speaker 2: Well, good morning to you. It is Chuck Pow, it
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Speaker 2: of time. All right, let's get it started, because really,
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Speaker 2: and there's like one topic he today because of the
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Speaker 2: guttural reaction that took place to last night's to one
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Speaker 2: loss and a painful loss for the Mariners to the
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Speaker 2: Chicago White Sox. Because they led the entire game until
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Speaker 2: I mean they scored in the first inning and didn't
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Speaker 2: score again, but they led the entire game until the
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Speaker 2: ninth inning. And certainly, this experiment of the piggyback that
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Speaker 2: we've discussed here the last couple of days, it reared
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Speaker 2: its head ugly or otherwise last night in the ninth inning,
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Speaker 2: and it just kind of felt like all bases were
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Speaker 2: not covered with the strategy that went into last night's game.
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Speaker 2: And so the White Sox end up winning by a
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Speaker 2: final score of two to one over the Seattle Mariners,
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Speaker 2: and outrage spilled out throughout the Seattle Mariner community as
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Speaker 2: no one can understand why you would ever mess with
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Speaker 2: any kind of strategies and why you would ever make
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Speaker 2: these decisions. And so during our course of our show today,
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Speaker 2: certainly this is going to be the primary topic. As
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Speaker 2: a matter of fact, there's so many legs to this,
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Speaker 2: there's so many tributaries that branch off this big, mighty
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Speaker 2: river that I think we're going to spend a lot
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Speaker 2: of time on the show today. I mean, we can
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Speaker 2: talk big picture to start the show, just our general thoughts,
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Speaker 2: get him out, and then as the show goes along,
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Speaker 2: My plan is to run it through individual filters, so
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Speaker 2: through the Luis Castillo filter last night, Deandre's Munnos filter
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Speaker 2: last night, the Bryce Miller filter last night, and certainly
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Speaker 2: through the filters of Dan Wilson and the front office
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Speaker 2: as well. So that's the plan as we go. But
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Speaker 2: just to give you recap, and we'll get into this
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Speaker 2: with Mariner this morning after White Sox do win by
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Speaker 2: final score of two to one. It was a piggyback
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Speaker 2: experiment that was taking place last night by the MS.
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Speaker 2: They have six starting pitchers that they feel fond of
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Speaker 2: and they have five rotation spots. So with Bryce Miller
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Speaker 2: recently coming off the injury list, the plan going into
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Speaker 2: last night was that Bryce Miller pitches to start the
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Speaker 2: game for a bulk of time and then ideally, and
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Speaker 2: Jerry Depoto even said this during the broadcast yesterday, You've
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Speaker 2: gained a little bit of a lead and Luis Castillo
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Speaker 2: will work a bulk end of the back end of
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Speaker 2: the game. Therefore, both starting pitchers can remain stretched out.
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Speaker 2: If we need to move Castillo or Miller back into
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Speaker 2: the rotation at some point in the future, that they
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Speaker 2: both can do it from a starting pitchers perspective and
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Speaker 2: eat innings. They didn't want them to be shortened. As
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Speaker 2: we experiment with this thing. There was also a strategy,
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Speaker 2: and this needs to be pointed out, that there would
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Speaker 2: be a bridge guy. Yep, Jose Ferrer would be the
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Speaker 2: bridge guy to the two pitchers. So if Miller got
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Speaker 2: an indie trouble in the middle of an inning, you
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Speaker 2: brought in Ferrer. He bridges the gap so that Castillo
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Speaker 2: doesn't have to come in in the middle of an inning,
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Speaker 2: and then he starts the very next inning with no
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Speaker 2: one on base, and then he goes the rest of
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Speaker 2: the game in theory. And then on the back end,
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Speaker 2: Andre s Munjos, from what I understand, was part of
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Speaker 2: the game plan, but only if the tying run got
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Speaker 2: in scoring position in the ninth, which of course it did,
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Speaker 2: and it scored along with the winning run by the
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Speaker 2: Chicago White Sox as well to make the final score
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Speaker 2: two to one. And so that's what happened last night.
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Speaker 2: All four pitchers ended up getting used, but it certainly
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Speaker 2: felt wonky. It ends up backfiring. It doesn't work because
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Speaker 2: it is a loss. I think that we'll be able
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Speaker 2: to get into it to a great degree here today.
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Speaker 2: But before I talk any further, Andrews, just your general
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Speaker 2: thoughts on what happened last night. What's the big takeaway
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Speaker 2: from last night for you?
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Speaker 4: It's just funny because you have a game where you
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Speaker 4: score one run and you get one hit in the
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Speaker 4: first inning. Both those things happened in the first inning
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Speaker 4: and not.
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Speaker 2: One hit two times in three games.
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Speaker 4: Yes, And it is just a footnote of what happened
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Speaker 4: last night, which is crazy to me because.
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Speaker 2: I don't think it should be. It shouldn't know, it
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Speaker 2: shouldn't be.
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Speaker 4: But it's this discussion to right, It's what everyone was
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Speaker 4: intrigued about going into last night, and it's what everyone's
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Speaker 4: reacting to after last night. And I also think for
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Speaker 4: the majority of the game, the piggyback strategy did its
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Speaker 4: job and it worked. I think Bryce Miller obviously was fantastic.
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Speaker 4: He was a little ticked off coming out, but I
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Speaker 4: think it was the right move to go to Jose
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Speaker 4: Ferrero to get Munataka murakamiout, and it absolutely worked out
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Speaker 4: and you got out of that sixth inning. Then you know,
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Speaker 4: Luis Castill looks great in his first inning, shaky a
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Speaker 4: little bit in that second inning, but still gets out
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Speaker 4: of it. And I thought it was a pretty foregone
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Speaker 4: conclusion that, you know, if you maybe have a couple
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Speaker 4: run lead, you could stick with Castillo. But I understand
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Speaker 4: the thought process of wanting to stretch him out. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: but when it's that tight and you've had zero offense
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Speaker 4: all game long, I would have felt like, all right,
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Speaker 4: let's just let's make let's be sure of this one,
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Speaker 4: and we can kind of move forward with with whatever
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Speaker 4: plan we got and then start with Munnos in that inning.
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Speaker 4: But they start with Castillo and then everything else unfolds
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Speaker 4: after that, and the general thought for me, and this
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Speaker 4: is what this was my worry, because I actually kind
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Speaker 4: of liked the ideas as a whole, but I said yesterday,
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Speaker 4: it has to be executed right, and I don't think
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Speaker 4: it was in the end. So that's kind of where
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Speaker 4: I'm still finding myself worried about a manager specifically that
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Speaker 4: doesn't you have to have your pulse And it's kind
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Speaker 4: of there's a lot of nuance with when to pull
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Speaker 4: a guy out with this kind of stuff and not
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Speaker 4: what he's good at, not what he's good at, and
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Speaker 4: you're gonna need that kind of skill if you're gonna
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Speaker 4: pull off this kind of new thing.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I I agree with your take. My here here's
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Speaker 2: here's the three things that I think have to be
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Speaker 2: mentioned before we started. Number One, we lost this game
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Speaker 2: because we can't hit left handers totally. Okay, I mean
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Speaker 2: Ryce Miller and Luis Castillo both pitched well. Lest yes
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Speaker 2: I did. Okay, Castile left without having given up run.
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Speaker 2: Bryce Miller was fantastic last night, and there's a conversation
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Speaker 2: to be held. That's why we need to run it
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Speaker 2: through separate filters about whether or not he should have
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Speaker 2: left the game, whether or not you should be able,
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Speaker 2: whether it's a piggyback game or not, change your mind
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Speaker 2: on the feel of the game, which I think that
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Speaker 2: you should. But we lost this game because once again
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Speaker 2: we can't score runs, and particularly against left handers. Yes,
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Speaker 2: Anthony Kay, who the entire league makes look like Mary Kay,
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Speaker 2: we make him look like Special K. And I'm tired
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Speaker 2: of it because now it's starting to feel like Circle K.
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Speaker 2: It's just over and over and over, and it's just
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Speaker 2: so convenient to lay this on anything else. But we
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Speaker 2: can't hit left handers. So that's number one. Number Two,
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Speaker 2: the biggest hit of the game was a bull crap
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Speaker 2: hit that Chase. My draft was beaten by Munos on
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Speaker 2: that and so I know it happens. Look it happens
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Speaker 2: in the sport, I get it. But he was completely
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Speaker 2: beaten by Moon. You saw the look on Munno's face,
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Speaker 2: like you gotta be kidding me. And my draft, by
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Speaker 2: the way, sounds like every villain in every kid's like
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Speaker 2: cartoon television show, doesn't he It's like the Power Rangers
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Speaker 2: nearly got away with it, didn't yet My draft is
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Speaker 2: always therein the day.
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Speaker 4: It does sound like more Goth from Lord of the
11:21
Speaker 4: Rings is like the big, big bad villain, right, you
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Speaker 4: know what I mean, he's above Salon.
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Speaker 2: For those who don't know, I'm a nerd. I know anyway,
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Speaker 2: So my draft gets a crap hit, and the only
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Speaker 2: reason it's even a hit is because the infield's drawn in.
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Speaker 2: And the only reason the infield's drawn in is because
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Speaker 2: Will Vinnable keeps beating Dan Wilson. Strategy for strategy, It's like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: you're gonna bring in your closer. I got first and second,
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Speaker 2: watch what I'll do. I'm just going to steal on
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Speaker 2: the very first pitch because I know he's that double
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Speaker 2: steal was enormous in the game last night because it
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Speaker 2: brought the infield in for two straight hitters, and if
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Speaker 2: the infield's not in, neither one of those hits goes through.
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Speaker 2: So there's that there was some bad luck involved last
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Speaker 2: night because Chase mead draf was complete or my draft
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Speaker 2: was completely beaten by Munnos and then slap some garbage
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Speaker 2: single down the right field line, So that needs to
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Speaker 2: be mentioned as well. Otherwise, maybe the experiment is successful
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Speaker 2: in the situation. And then the third thing is and
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Speaker 2: that's the keyword to all of this experiment, And I
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Speaker 2: get it, it's a game. You gotta win the game.
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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think there should have been some
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Speaker 2: adjustments on the fly to the strategy last night. We
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Speaker 2: all knew we were doing something for the first time.
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Speaker 2: Jerry justin. There's a reason why Jerry was in the
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Speaker 2: booth last night explaining what it is that we're doing
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Speaker 2: here tonight, and he said it very clearly. Ideally, we
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Speaker 2: want this to be like three four to nothing and
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Speaker 2: both pitchers get plenty of work and that we don't
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Speaker 2: have to worry about a one run game and being
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Speaker 2: on the edge of our seats. Yeah, I mean, I'm paraphrasing,
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Speaker 2: but that's initially what he said, and that's what he said.
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Speaker 2: And so you were experimenting last night, and with like
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Speaker 2: any experiment, I mean, do you scrap it because one
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Speaker 2: of the variables went wrong. I'm going to say, I
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Speaker 2: think we learned a lot. And even though we kicked
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Speaker 2: a game last night, and people hate hearing this one
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Speaker 2: game out of one hundred and sixty two, that you
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Speaker 2: can learn something about how best to go forward. You know,
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Speaker 2: I'm not I didn't want to lose the game. I
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Speaker 2: think we should have managed it differently last night. And
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Speaker 2: had we managed it differently, I think we're talking about
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Speaker 2: a victory. So I get the outrage and I get
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Speaker 2: the anger, but it was sort of I mean, experiment
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Speaker 2: is what it was. And I think what we learned
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Speaker 2: last night, and I hope it's applied, is exactly what
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Speaker 2: you said Andrews with your first take, and that is Okay.
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Speaker 2: If this is the strategy, we have to have the
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Speaker 2: ability to adjust in a one run game that changes it. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's a variable. Okay. If you're going to do an experiment,
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Speaker 2: it's all about variables. You add this variable, how does
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Speaker 2: that exchange the How does that change the experiment? If
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Speaker 2: we add an eye of newt how does that change
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Speaker 2: the recipe? If we stir it three times in a
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Speaker 2: cauldron at three hundred and sixty five degrees versus two
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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five degrees, how does that change the experiment.
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Speaker 2: You've got to be able to adjust on the fly.
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Speaker 2: And to me, Bryce Miller was going so well, I
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Speaker 2: wouldn't have taken him out of the game. Okay, that's
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Speaker 2: so let's start there. Okay, because it's a one nothing game.
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna mess with a guy that is dominating
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Speaker 2: the other team. And he was dominating the other team.
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Speaker 2: It's as if we've got to pay off what we
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Speaker 2: talked about in that circular room upstairs. Yeah, we were
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Speaker 2: planning on using Farrer to get more Akami as a bridge.
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Speaker 2: So we gotta do it. No, you don't. You don't
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Speaker 2: have to do it. You didn't have to use Castillo
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Speaker 2: last night. What that's wrong with giving a thirty three
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Speaker 2: year old starting pitcher a night off in the middle
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Speaker 2: of a season. Maybe just skip them entirely through the rotation.
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Speaker 2: Some people do that with starting pitchers to save them
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Speaker 2: for later on in the season. What's wrong with I mean,
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Speaker 2: I get you don't want to do that two times
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Speaker 2: in a row, But what happens if Emerson Hancock goes
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Speaker 2: one hundred pitches tonight and five innings today. Maybe Castile
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Speaker 2: could have been used today. Pete Woodworth told me on
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Speaker 2: these very airwaves that these guys are going to pitch
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Speaker 2: when they get the pitch. We're not worried about their
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Speaker 2: schedules being thrown off. Well, if you're not worried about this,
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Speaker 2: that's right from the pitching coach's mouth. Yes, if you're
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Speaker 2: not worried about their schedules being thrown off, then why
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Speaker 2: couldn't you have adjusted last night to Bryce Miller's dominating
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Speaker 2: Somebody tell Luis Castile, we're going to do this piggyback
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Speaker 2: experiment tomorrow and we might not get to it. This
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Speaker 2: turned through the rotation, so I would have kept Miller
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Speaker 2: in the game, I wrote last night. And I don't
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Speaker 2: do a lot of Twitter. I wrote last night. I
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Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable about this, yea, even though I did
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Speaker 2: find the very strategy very interesting and worth exploring, and
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Speaker 2: I still think it's worth exploring. Luis Castile was also
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Speaker 2: good last night. It was in the seventh inning he
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Speaker 2: was dominant and the seventh inning, and yet the statistics
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Speaker 2: show Luke Arkins sent me this last night because we
16:22
Speaker 2: kept texting back and forth. I was texting with a
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Speaker 2: lot of people. Let me watch the game. People that
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Speaker 2: the statistical difference between his first innings he's dominant, and
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Speaker 2: then the second, third, and fourth he's terrible. Yeah, that's
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Speaker 2: the trend this year for leist Castile. So he was
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Speaker 2: dominant in the first and then you go to the
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Speaker 2: second and third inning and he wasn't bad. He had
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Speaker 2: a couple cheap hits too, that he gave up. He
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Speaker 2: also had two walks because he's not trusting his stuff.
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Speaker 2: But when you in the game, you've already got moon
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Speaker 2: Jos up. It's the ninth inning, you're up by one.
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Speaker 2: You don't have to stick with the experiment. Wait, two
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Speaker 2: innings was fine, It was totally fine. I think you
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Speaker 2: proved what you were out to prove. Yes, and now
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Speaker 2: it's a one run game. It is precious Munnos can pitch.
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Speaker 2: He's ready to go. Why put him in that situation?
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Speaker 2: Why let him inherit? Runners were a cheap, crappy single
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Speaker 2: by my drawth the terrible can ruin everything you did
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Speaker 2: well last night from a pitching standpoint, because this is
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Speaker 2: a pitching experiment, and our pitchers were all good last night,
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Speaker 2: and a couple of them were great, and so it
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Speaker 2: was not some horrendous failure last night. It was the
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Speaker 2: first time doing this. We learned some valuable lessons and
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Speaker 2: now I hope they never do it again. One nothing games.
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Speaker 2: You need to change the way you approach those, period
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Speaker 2: and don't stick with a game plan that you discussed
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Speaker 2: in an office somewhere at three o'clock in the afternoon
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Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with the current situation at hand.
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Speaker 4: So mad scientist Chuck Powell with adding variables to the
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Speaker 4: experiment here, I'm wondering, last night, did you learn you know,
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Speaker 4: talk about lessons learned about when to come into a
18:20
Speaker 4: game and when you can take a picture out. What
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Speaker 4: do you mean when Dan Wilson comes out for the
18:25
Speaker 4: second straight mound visit?
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Speaker 2: Oh? Did you that? Did we learn the rule? Did
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Speaker 2: we finally learn the rule? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: To be completely fair to Dan, that specific part didn't
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Speaker 4: make a difference because Luis Castillo gets the next batter
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Speaker 4: out right, And then.
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Speaker 2: Then I was thinking keep him in that. That's exactly
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Speaker 2: what I was gonna say. It's like, okay, wait a second,
18:49
Speaker 2: you've already gone this far quickly, and he looks like
18:52
Speaker 2: he's fighting to get you out of it. Right. Maybe
18:56
Speaker 2: maybe him getting nearly pulled out pissed him off. He
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Speaker 2: was back to ninety seven ninety eight, he blew Montgomery away.
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Speaker 4: Yes, And this is what I mean by feel of
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Speaker 4: the game, right, And this is where it's.
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Speaker 2: I don't think he has feel of the game. And
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought it up, and we will discuss
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Speaker 2: it when we put it through Dan Wilson filter later on.
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Speaker 2: I don't think he has it. I mean, I've talked
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Speaker 2: about it a lot. I thought last year down the
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Speaker 2: stretch was Dan Wilson at his best. Then he got
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Speaker 2: into the playoffs and that was a complete and oh no,
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Speaker 2: this isn't what I'm used to. And then I don't
19:27
Speaker 2: think he was good in the playoffs. And now he's
19:30
Speaker 2: off to a bad start this year and he looks
19:32
Speaker 2: he looks like he's being tortured. Yeah, whenever they show
19:35
Speaker 2: him on the dugout And now you add this variable
19:39
Speaker 2: to it, like you needed like a horse whisperer next
19:44
Speaker 2: to him last night to whisper in his ear. It's
19:47
Speaker 2: going to be all right, man, here's what we're gonna do.
19:49
Speaker 2: Because I don't think Dan can handle that much stress.
19:53
Speaker 4: I you could tell he's like second guessing himself in
19:57
Speaker 4: his mind too, like oh, maybe I go, maybe I don't.
19:59
Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't even like what they're doing, and yet
20:02
Speaker 2: he's trying to execute. Maybe he doesn't even get what
20:04
Speaker 2: they're doing right, and he's trying to execute it. That's
20:07
Speaker 2: a dangerous combination. I don't get this. I don't understand
20:10
Speaker 2: why we're doing it. I wouldn't do this, and yet
20:13
Speaker 2: you want me to execute it. That's kind of how
20:15
Speaker 2: it felt, which is another thing we have to discuss
20:18
Speaker 2: because everybody is so convinced that Jerry's sitting there on
20:23
Speaker 2: texting him throughout the game telling which is completely false. Ye,
20:27
Speaker 2: and we'll run that through the front office filter a
20:30
Speaker 2: little bit later on in the show. But it didn't
20:32
Speaker 2: work out, and it felt disastrous. But stepping back from it,
20:37
Speaker 2: it wasn't an unmitigated disaster, but hopefully we learned enough
20:41
Speaker 2: from it that we never go through that again, because
20:44
Speaker 2: obviously it was not handled the right way and it
20:49
Speaker 2: could have cost us the game or the baseball gods
20:53
Speaker 2: let my draf dribble a ball down the right field
20:57
Speaker 2: line and that changed the game. That's also a possible.
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Speaker 4: Really quick, did you have any thought that Mitch like
21:03
Speaker 4: didn't they didn't even throw on the double steal, Like,
21:05
Speaker 4: I feel like Mitch Garver should be getting like at
21:08
Speaker 4: least a chance to get one of them out.
21:10
Speaker 2: Well, they had no off sought so off guard. Well, also,
21:14
Speaker 2: Garver was terrible last night. You didn't challenge two different
21:17
Speaker 2: times where Castillo had struck out a batter, one in
21:20
Speaker 2: the eighth and one in the ninth. It's like, I
21:23
Speaker 2: hope to god you're not trying to protect your stats
21:27
Speaker 2: when it comes to challenging. It's the ninth fricking inning.
21:29
Speaker 2: Use them, use the damn challenges, especially in this situation.
21:35
Speaker 2: All Right, we got a lot to discuss. Let's find
21:37
Speaker 2: out what's on tap for the rest of the show.
21:41
Speaker 2: What's on tip? What's on tapped? All right, White Sox
21:46
Speaker 2: two Mariners won. It sucks. We'll talk about it Mariner's
21:49
Speaker 2: White Sox tonight or today one o'clock afternoon game turns
21:53
Speaker 2: out to be a rubber match rather than going for
21:55
Speaker 2: a sweep. By the way, Dodgers Padres played last night
21:59
Speaker 2: as well, and so if you were frustrated by the
22:01
Speaker 2: way you lost, the Padres lost a game because Mason Miller,
22:05
Speaker 2: the greatest pitcher in the world, had a guy picked
22:08
Speaker 2: off of first dead to rights and threw the ball
22:11
Speaker 2: away and that's how they lost that game. So weird
22:14
Speaker 2: things happen my draft, NBA Playoffs the Knicks. If you
22:19
Speaker 2: think you had a bad loss, Mariner fans, The Cavaliers
22:22
Speaker 2: blew a twenty two point lead in Game one of
22:25
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference Finals in the fourth quarter last night
22:29
Speaker 2: and it disappeared in no time, one fifteen to one
22:32
Speaker 2: oh four, and their head coach left all of his
22:35
Speaker 2: timeouts in his back pocket. Bad last night. I guess
22:38
Speaker 2: it was less it really was. Game two tonight, Spurs
22:41
Speaker 2: and Thunder tips at five thirty. Western Conference Finals of
22:44
Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup playoffs start tonight at five thirty between
22:46
Speaker 2: the Avalanche and the Knight's Good luck finding a team
22:49
Speaker 2: to root for there. Storm will host the Sun tonight
22:52
Speaker 2: at seven o'clock, and Jedfish landed the number one recruit
22:57
Speaker 2: in the state of Washington yesterday for the twenty twenty
22:59
Speaker 2: seven recruiting class, which we'll try to find some time
23:03
Speaker 2: to talk about later. Bets, obviously we are piggybacking here
23:06
Speaker 2: today Chuck Anders and Travis with you Mariners morning after
23:10
Speaker 2: his next sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Is
23:35
Speaker 2: this the law song? It is not? Okay? I think
23:38
Speaker 2: maybe we did the listeners they break today with Travis
23:41
Speaker 2: filling in for Ashley, he was scrambling to get the
23:44
Speaker 2: highlight and of course, not being in this seat on
23:49
Speaker 2: a regular basis, he didn't play the depressing Hello Darkness
23:54
Speaker 2: Mile Friend song, which is okay with me, You're fine
23:58
Speaker 2: with me, Hello dark Yeah, don't come to me. Let's
24:02
Speaker 2: treat this like just another day rather than another loss.
24:07
Speaker 2: Shouldn't have been a loss. But yeah, it's Juck it
24:11
Speaker 2: is and filling in for Bucky, Travis Moger filling in
24:13
Speaker 2: for Ashley. She is filling in for Greg Bell. Today's
24:17
Speaker 2: you know, spring slash summertime. A lot of vacations have
24:20
Speaker 2: to be met, and so we moved some pieces around,
24:22
Speaker 2: moved the chairs around on the Titanic here this morning
24:27
Speaker 2: sinking Yeah, exactly. It's Andrews and I on the door
24:31
Speaker 2: and there's room for you. Buddy. I'm not like that, bitch.
24:35
Speaker 2: Kate Winslet can climb aboard. Yeah, what about Travis? Can
24:39
Speaker 2: he come on? No, they're not room for He screwed
24:43
Speaker 2: up the intro. Okay, fair enough, all right, Good morning
24:50
Speaker 2: to you all. Welcome into the radio show. It is
24:53
Speaker 2: Mariner's Morning After right here on Chuck and Buck in
24:56
Speaker 2: the Mornings. And yes, we've already discussed the Mariner's a
25:00
Speaker 2: loss to the Chicago White Sox two to one, and
25:02
Speaker 2: the piggyback thing. We've had one segment on it. We
25:05
Speaker 2: have several other segments to break down the situation coming
25:09
Speaker 2: your way. But this is Mariner's Morning After, and so
25:12
Speaker 2: we have to go through the painful process of discussing
25:15
Speaker 2: the actual game itself, Yes, which was actually pitched really
25:19
Speaker 2: well by the Mariners on this day of piggyback experimenting.
25:24
Speaker 2: Bryce Miller got the start and he was fantastic last night.
25:29
Speaker 2: He took a no hitter into the sixth inning in
25:32
Speaker 2: the game last night and then didn't last much longer
25:36
Speaker 2: than that. They had a plan, so they took him
25:39
Speaker 2: out after seventy two pitches. They put in Jose Ferrer
25:43
Speaker 2: to face the White sox most dangerous hitter, Mouna Takap Morikami.
25:47
Speaker 2: He struck him out and all was right with the world.
25:50
Speaker 2: So one to not thing the score remains. Then the
25:53
Speaker 2: Mariners go to Luis Castillo to pitch the seventh and
25:56
Speaker 2: the eighth innings, and Luis Castillo gets the job done
26:00
Speaker 2: in both of those innings. Meanwhile, the Ms have been
26:03
Speaker 2: nursing a one nothing lead that they built in the
26:05
Speaker 2: first inning the entire time, and so up one to
26:09
Speaker 2: nothing over the Chicago White Sox. They had to the
26:13
Speaker 2: ninth inning, and instead of Andres Munos getting the ball
26:17
Speaker 2: in the ninth which is customary because we're doing this
26:20
Speaker 2: piggyback experiment last night, Luis Castillo keeps the ball in
26:25
Speaker 2: the ninth inning, and then things went sideways. There was
26:30
Speaker 2: a walk to Morikami to start the inning. Then Miguel
26:35
Speaker 2: Vargas was hit by a pitch. There was a pinch
26:38
Speaker 2: runner brought in as well at that point for Murakami,
26:41
Speaker 2: a much faster runner in derreck Hill. Luis Castillo was
26:46
Speaker 2: supposed to be taken out of the game for Andres Munos.
26:49
Speaker 2: Dan Wilson did not understand the rules of mound visits,
26:53
Speaker 2: so the umpires told Dan Wilson, you can't do that.
26:57
Speaker 2: Tail between his legs, went back to the dugout, stuck
27:00
Speaker 2: with Castillo, who struck out the bat next batter and
27:03
Speaker 2: dominating fashion. So there's one out, there are two on
27:07
Speaker 2: chase me. Draff comes to the plate or my draft
27:10
Speaker 2: I believe his name is. He gets beaten by a
27:13
Speaker 2: pitch by Andres Munos and still singles down the right
27:16
Speaker 2: field line past a drawn in infield, which had to
27:19
Speaker 2: draw in because Will Vinnable double stole on Munios his
27:23
Speaker 2: first pitch out of the bullpen. So it was suddenly
27:26
Speaker 2: second and third with nobody out, and my draft takes
27:30
Speaker 2: advantage of it squeezes a single down the right field
27:33
Speaker 2: line to tie the game at one. And you're still
27:36
Speaker 2: not out of it. Excuse me, there was one out
27:38
Speaker 2: at the time. You're still not out of it. You've
27:41
Speaker 2: got now first and third game seemingly on the line.
27:45
Speaker 2: Andrew Bennettendi comes to the plate.
27:48
Speaker 1: Ball it hits up banners, glove and dies. He had
27:50
Speaker 1: no white sucks take the lead in the ninth Inny
27:56
Speaker 1: it's a two to one Chicago lead with one out.
27:59
Speaker 2: In the nine.
28:01
Speaker 1: The Mariners have tried to walk the tightrope all night
28:04
Speaker 1: long and now are on the outside.
28:07
Speaker 2: That's Aaron Goldsmith with a call last night on Mariners TV.
28:11
Speaker 2: So two to one, White Sox take the lead. At
28:14
Speaker 2: that point, Munios ends up striking out the next two
28:18
Speaker 2: batters that he faced, keeps the lead at two to one.
28:21
Speaker 2: Munos came off the mound shaking his head. Obviously wasn't
28:25
Speaker 2: entirely pleased with the way that that inning went down,
28:28
Speaker 2: how he was used, my draft's crappy single. All of
28:31
Speaker 2: it seemed to compound in that moment. Mariners do have
28:35
Speaker 2: a chance to tie. They go with three straight left
28:38
Speaker 2: handed hitters to pinch hit in the ninth, and they
28:41
Speaker 2: all strike out against Grant Taylor. Game over two to
28:44
Speaker 2: one the final score. It was a night in which
28:48
Speaker 2: some experimenting took place by the Mariners, some in game
28:53
Speaker 2: decisions left Mariner fans beside themselves. Dan Wilson looked confused
28:59
Speaker 2: at times and certainly did forget the rules about mound visits,
29:04
Speaker 2: or maybe never knew them. He had a lot to
29:07
Speaker 2: discuss in the post game press conference. Here's Dan. Yeah,
29:11
Speaker 2: tough one to lose late.
29:12
Speaker 6: Tonight, the way the guy's pitch tonight, you know, got
29:15
Speaker 6: the one run early. Uh, you know, I thought we
29:18
Speaker 6: did a good job putting a lot of pitches.
29:19
Speaker 2: On Ky early, you know.
29:23
Speaker 6: Uh, and then but then he was able to kind
29:24
Speaker 6: of settle in and and uh, you know it was
29:27
Speaker 6: was a little bit tougher as the game went on.
29:30
Speaker 6: Just not able to get too much going on after
29:31
Speaker 6: that first inning there, but uh, you know, Bryce was
29:35
Speaker 6: throwing the ball extremely well. You know, Fred did a
29:38
Speaker 6: really nice job getting us out of it, and then
29:40
Speaker 6: you know, RockA continued to throw the ball well and uh,
29:45
Speaker 6: you know, just just weren't able to hold on to
29:46
Speaker 6: it in the end. And that's a tough one to
29:48
Speaker 6: tough one to lose.
29:50
Speaker 2: Is there any consideration of the men to start again?
29:54
Speaker 3: Walks just the.
29:58
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think you know, again, we we
30:00
Speaker 6: talked about before you know, the game started that you know,
30:04
Speaker 6: different scenarios exist in this you know, you know, piggyback situation.
30:08
Speaker 2: And you know.
30:11
Speaker 6: Rocket gotten in there a little bit later, so you know,
30:14
Speaker 6: and we felt really comfortable with rock out there, especially
30:16
Speaker 6: the way he was throwing the ball and you know,
30:19
Speaker 6: it just didn't go away there in the ninth.
30:23
Speaker 2: Dan Wilson after the game last night talking about how
30:27
Speaker 2: it didn't go their way in the ninth So it
30:29
Speaker 2: wasn't a great night obviously for the piggyback experiments. I'm
30:35
Speaker 2: not sure Dan handled everything the right way, and I'm
30:37
Speaker 2: not really sure Dan Wilson felt comfortable with any of it.
30:41
Speaker 2: That's kind of the way he acted.
30:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's kind of what it sounded like there
30:44
Speaker 4: is he didn't have the words right away to explain
30:47
Speaker 4: not going to Munnos in the ninth inning. It was like, Okay,
30:51
Speaker 4: we felt pretty good with Rock out there. You know,
30:54
Speaker 4: he had gotten in a little later than we wanted to.
30:56
Speaker 4: But you know, and it almost felt disingenuous to me.
31:00
Speaker 4: But I'm not going to read too much into it.
31:01
Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah, Well, two to one is the final
31:04
Speaker 2: score today. You will have the opportunity to still win
31:08
Speaker 2: the series. I know that falls flat with everybody listening
31:12
Speaker 2: right now. But Emerson Hancock will get the start. Sean Burke,
31:16
Speaker 2: who we faced before, right hander, will get the call
31:19
Speaker 2: for the Chicago White Sox. At least he's right handed.
31:22
Speaker 2: First pitch will be at one ten this afternoon, and
31:26
Speaker 2: I guess I'll spend more time on it later. I
31:28
Speaker 2: was going to save it for later. But imagine the
31:30
Speaker 2: pressure now that's on Emerson hancockeez because Aaron's right. Aaron
31:35
Speaker 2: said this last night in the broadcast, like Emerson Hancock's
31:38
Speaker 2: success is what created all of this last night. We
31:43
Speaker 2: can't take him out of the starting rotation. So you
31:46
Speaker 2: try this experiment in the middle of May with two
31:50
Speaker 2: more bona fide starting pitchers, and it doesn't quite work out,
31:55
Speaker 2: and it's going to just compound it even more. If
31:58
Speaker 2: Emerson Hancock has a bad outing today, you don't have
32:02
Speaker 2: the piggyback option to go to because you pitched him
32:05
Speaker 2: both last night, and you might not have muon yos
32:08
Speaker 2: to go to because he's now pitched back to back
32:10
Speaker 2: nights as well. And so Emerson Man, I don't know
32:14
Speaker 2: if he's feeling pressure. I hope he's not listening right now.
32:17
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's thought about it as much
32:19
Speaker 2: as I have, But all of a sudden he's facing
32:22
Speaker 2: a situation like you better pitch well or else. This
32:25
Speaker 2: experiment really goes sideways.
32:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I still believe he will pitch well,
32:31
Speaker 4: and you kind of laid it out there previously, is
32:34
Speaker 4: this mare is still a chance to win the series
32:36
Speaker 4: after all this? Right, if he comes out and shoves
32:39
Speaker 4: and you know, it will be a little tough without
32:41
Speaker 4: your closer, but maybe you know, you can kind of
32:44
Speaker 4: piece together a little bit of the bullpen after that.
32:46
Speaker 4: But yeah, I feel like as a guy who has
32:49
Speaker 4: changed his mentality on the mound a little bit in
32:51
Speaker 4: Emerson Hancock, this is one of those situations where it's like, Okay,
32:54
Speaker 4: let's test that a little bit. Because of everything that
32:55
Speaker 4: happened last night, we're kind of relying on you now.
32:57
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we've got a lot to discuss on this.
33:00
Speaker 2: We will continue to discuss it throughout the course of
33:02
Speaker 2: the show. Here today we're going to run that piggyback
33:06
Speaker 2: strategy through various filters on the show today. But coming
33:10
Speaker 2: up next we do want to give you a break
33:12
Speaker 2: from it as well, an opportunity to cleanse your palette
33:15
Speaker 2: if you will. You know, how about a little soorbet
33:17
Speaker 2: for you, you know, just swishing around in your mouth
33:20
Speaker 2: that way when the poor tenderloin comes out, it will
33:23
Speaker 2: taste all that much better and then won't get muddied
33:26
Speaker 2: by the risotto that you woof down to start the
33:29
Speaker 2: show here today. I like it. Yeah, Angry, let's talk
33:33
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33:38
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Speaker 2: All right, it is Chuck bound anders her San Travis
34:18
Speaker 2: Mugger with you this morning, Chucking Buck in the morning.
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Speaker 2: M Ashley Ryan is hosting the Greg Bell Show today
34:26
Speaker 2: at ten o'clock. So we just moved some chairs around
34:29
Speaker 2: and so we've had Travis and Andrews on the show
34:32
Speaker 2: the last couple of days. It's been awesome, and we
34:36
Speaker 2: will have more on the piggyback controversy. It's gonna be
34:40
Speaker 2: the majority of our show today, but there are some
34:44
Speaker 2: other things going on, and as I said, let this
34:47
Speaker 2: let our forty five segments today serve as palate cleansers
34:52
Speaker 2: for the froth and anger that rolls out of our
34:57
Speaker 2: mouths here today. I'm not as angry as some of
35:01
Speaker 2: you are out there about what happened last night, but
35:04
Speaker 2: I get it. I totally get it. And we'll get
35:06
Speaker 2: back into the conversation here in a moment. But here
35:09
Speaker 2: we go, little dish of mango sorbet for you all.
35:14
Speaker 2: The Knicks taking on the Cavaliers last night, and I
35:17
Speaker 2: really thought this was going to be a conversation about
35:19
Speaker 2: rest versus russ because the New York Knicks had been
35:23
Speaker 2: playing as good at basketball as they've played all season long,
35:28
Speaker 2: and they had not played in a while. Meanwhile, the
35:31
Speaker 2: Cavaliers are coming off of a seven game series, and
35:35
Speaker 2: so you know, you would think that the team that
35:38
Speaker 2: was more rested would be in an advantageous position, But
35:43
Speaker 2: I don't think that happens. I do believe that rust
35:47
Speaker 2: hurts you more really in a game one, but then
35:52
Speaker 2: as the series goes along, then that lack of rest
35:56
Speaker 2: starts to come into effect, and then the team that's
36:00
Speaker 2: more rested is stronger down the stretch. So I do
36:03
Speaker 2: believe there is more of an advantage with rest than
36:07
Speaker 2: there is with rust with Russ or with there's more
36:11
Speaker 2: of an advantage. Yeah, yeah, there's more advantage with getting
36:14
Speaker 2: rest than worried about Russ having Russ. Yes, okay, and
36:19
Speaker 2: yet I don't think that shows up in the first game.
36:22
Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised that San Antonio beat a rusty
36:26
Speaker 2: looking Thunder team the night before, and I thought that
36:30
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to be surprised that the Knicks lost
36:33
Speaker 2: to a unrusted Cavaliers team last night. But here's the
36:38
Speaker 2: dangerous thing. You had the advantage last night Cleveland because
36:42
Speaker 2: of all New York's rust, and you still blew the
36:46
Speaker 2: game by blowing a twenty two point lead. So what
36:49
Speaker 2: is that going to say about the rest of the series.
36:51
Speaker 4: Well, and especially if your theory plays out like this
36:55
Speaker 4: was your chance. This is the chance to kind of
36:57
Speaker 4: get up in the series, and if you have any
36:59
Speaker 4: sort of hope in moving on to the NBA Finals here,
37:02
Speaker 4: you gotta take advantage of Game one and then try
37:05
Speaker 4: and just claw through the rest of the series as
37:07
Speaker 4: much as you can. But it seems like any sort
37:11
Speaker 4: of chance of them winning the series kind of went
37:13
Speaker 4: out the door.
37:13
Speaker 2: In game one, which.
37:14
Speaker 4: Is rare, and that that's something that I don't usually say,
37:17
Speaker 4: especially in a seven game series or a best of
37:21
Speaker 4: seven series. I should say, but not just that you lost,
37:25
Speaker 4: but in the nature that you lost as well. A
37:28
Speaker 4: twenty two point lead with eight minutes left? What and
37:34
Speaker 4: it evaporated fast fast.
37:36
Speaker 5: Apparently that rust fell off with eight minutes to go. Yeah,
37:40
Speaker 5: they came alive.
37:42
Speaker 2: Yeah.
37:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, And apparently the Cavs had a ninety nine point
37:46
Speaker 5: nine percent chance of winning that game.
37:49
Speaker 2: The old win probability charts.
37:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then the Knicks said screw that.
37:54
Speaker 2: Yeah it went It went away faster than Kylie Jenner's
37:59
Speaker 2: chastity knows whose bad is right? That is right in
38:17
Speaker 2: your wheelhouse. So anyway, Nicks win by eleven points last night,
38:26
Speaker 2: and you're right, I think they're set up excellently going forward.
38:31
Speaker 2: I mean there is an element, like, you know, when
38:35
Speaker 2: there's no way that the Knicks can sustain the quality
38:38
Speaker 2: of basketball that they were playing in the previous series.
38:41
Speaker 2: They're not going to be that good ever again in
38:43
Speaker 2: their lives as a group. I mean, they were just
38:46
Speaker 2: playing championship basketball, and so to have a little time
38:50
Speaker 2: off from that probably broke that momentum, but still they're
38:54
Speaker 2: a team that believes that place was electric last night,
38:58
Speaker 2: and when they started car been away, the Cavaliers started
39:01
Speaker 2: to grip a little bit, and so for them to
39:04
Speaker 2: get game number one hard for me to I mean,
39:07
Speaker 2: Spencer thinks differently, but it's hard for me to believe
39:10
Speaker 2: that the Cavaliers are coming back. Yeah.
39:12
Speaker 4: I want to see the Knicks in the finals. I
39:13
Speaker 4: think it's been a couple of years where it's like, Okay,
39:15
Speaker 4: are they going to make it this year? Okay, are
39:16
Speaker 4: they going to make it this year? And then they
39:18
Speaker 4: it's hopefully, I mean hopefully. I'm not like I'm hard
39:21
Speaker 4: rooting for them against the Calves. I have nothing against
39:23
Speaker 4: the Calves, but it just seems like the cards are
39:25
Speaker 4: set up to finally see Madison Square guard and host
39:28
Speaker 4: an NBA Finals game for the first time.
39:30
Speaker 2: And I how long as I can remember, and it
39:34
Speaker 2: wasn't that long ago. Yeah, I mean nineties. Yeah, the
39:38
Speaker 2: Knicks in the final.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they've been in the finals since
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Speaker 4: the nineties, but I could I could be completely wrong.
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Speaker 4: I'm not an NBA history not so, but let's be honest.
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Speaker 4: Anyone who whoever wins. Yeah, whoever wins this East is going.
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Speaker 2: To be It doesn't seem right to me, but you're right.
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Speaker 4: It is going to be underdogs to whoever, no matter what,
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Speaker 4: either one. So it's I mean, it is what it is.
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Speaker 4: Like everyone's obsessed with the Thunderspurs series, but you know this,
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Speaker 4: this game last night proved how good this series can
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Speaker 4: be as well.
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Speaker 2: Both those series are off to phenomenal starts at this point.
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Speaker 2: There's no question about it. And yes, Chalomey shaved his
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Speaker 2: mustache last night, So yeah, as a big story, that
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Speaker 2: is a huge, huge story. You're just on the jenners. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: what is going on every other play? How is that
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Speaker 2: not gonna be a takeaway? Did they not show Spike
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Speaker 2: Lee anymore? What's he doing? Not as much? It's Chalo
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Speaker 2: May and generin every single like out of every out
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Speaker 2: of bounds that there is, every stoppage of the clock,
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Speaker 2: we have to see them noodling all right, headlines, next
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Speaker 2: cash contest word plus we will get back to our
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Speaker 2: main topic today, the piggyback experiment last night. We're gonna
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Speaker 2: run it through various filters this morning. And the first
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Speaker 2: filter we're gonna run it through is the front office
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