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Best of Chuck & Buck 7-14 · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Oh you know these sons of yeah uns.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way you operate. I mean you act
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Speaker 2: like you don't, but you do. In the secret of
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Speaker 2: your own home, when the wife's not there and the
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Speaker 2: kids are out in the yard, there you are on
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Speaker 2: the internet pouring over other people's quarterbacks. You little you scamps. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: shame on you, and you know what, shame on me
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Speaker 2: for being able to recognize how your mind works.
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Speaker 3: But also just know your mom knows the magazines under
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Speaker 3: the mattress.
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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, exactly, your magazine of your fantasy football magazine.
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Speaker 2: She knows preparation. Uh yeah, for sure. Uh So, every
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Speaker 2: once in a while we do this segment called OPQ
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Speaker 2: where we talk about other people's quarterbacks. And of course
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Speaker 2: it is list season in the National Football League. Football
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Speaker 2: people people that own that call themselves sports fans, but
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Speaker 2: only like football. They can't stand not being the center
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Speaker 2: of attention or having their favorite sport be the center
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Speaker 2: of attention. And so about this time, even though we're
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Speaker 2: just eleven day shy of training camp, I mean, it's
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Speaker 2: going to be here before you know it. We got
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Speaker 2: to put together lists and ranking things, and we got
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Speaker 2: to break stories that compare certain players to other players
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Speaker 2: so that we have more things football wise to discuss.
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Speaker 2: And so NFL, excuse me, ESPN came out with quarterback
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Speaker 2: rankings yesterday. Poor Mike Sando, He's been doing his tiers
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Speaker 2: for years and now all of a sudden, ESPN's got
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Speaker 2: to do the list.
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Speaker 3: First, of course, and I like tears for years. They
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Speaker 3: were a great eighties.
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Speaker 2: Were a great man oh man.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love everybody wants to rule the world.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, of course a top this list that the
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Speaker 2: ESPN people came out with, there's a lot of conversation
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Speaker 2: about why Josh Allen could be ahead of Patrick Mahomes.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Josh Allen doesn't even make it to the
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes has won three Super Bowls for
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Speaker 2: goodness sake, And so the national conversation, how could you
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Speaker 2: put Alan ahead of Mahomes? And then the other side,
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Speaker 2: how could you not put Allen ahead of Mahomes? And
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Speaker 2: I suppose it's led to a lively debate. I mean,
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Speaker 2: if the list is most accomplished quarterbacks currently in the NFL,
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Speaker 2: then Patrick Mahomes is number one. But the list is
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Speaker 2: not that. The list is who's the best quarterback right now,
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Speaker 2: and they are asking other executives their opinions, just like
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Speaker 2: Mike Sando does with his tears for years. And so
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Speaker 2: they're asking executives like, who's the best quarterback right now?
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Speaker 2: And they're choosing Josh Allen narrowly over Patrick Mahomes, but
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Speaker 2: over Patrick Mahomes. And yeah, I think anybody can see that.
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Speaker 2: I think Patrick Mahomes has a lot of great football.
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Speaker 2: I've said this numerous times in the past that I
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Speaker 2: think Patrick Mahomes is going to have another stretch of
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Speaker 2: incredible football. I think his time with the Travis Kelcey
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Speaker 2: group is over with, but once they kind of flush
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Speaker 2: that out of the system and give Mahomes new weapons.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're watching quarterbacks because of the way they're
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Speaker 2: protected today, have careers well into their forties now. And
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Speaker 2: so he's thirty years old, and he's had a couple
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Speaker 2: of injuries here in the last couple of years, and
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Speaker 2: he also has had a I think a little bit
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Speaker 2: difficult time kind of adjusting to his new personnel, which
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Speaker 2: isn't as good as the old personnel. Even Kelsey. New
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Speaker 2: Kelsey's not nearly as good as old Kelsey. And yet
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Speaker 2: He's a huge part of their offense. That's a major
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Speaker 2: adjustment offense has to make because you also have to
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Speaker 2: deal with the sensitivities of a short fire, first ballot
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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer not being the guy that he used
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Speaker 2: to be. So that's so, I think Patrick Mahomes is
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Speaker 2: going to have another terrific run of seven years ahead
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Speaker 2: of him coming up in his National Football League career.
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Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is, I mean, this
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Speaker 2: is somebody that we were introduced to in twenty eighteen
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Speaker 2: in his first full season in the National Football League,
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Speaker 2: who threw for five thousand yards and fifty touchdowns. Well,
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Speaker 2: I mean he's not lived up to that since. I
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Speaker 2: mean that's the bar that he set. From a statistical standpoint,
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Speaker 2: he hasn't even had a four thousand yard season since
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. And I know he had the injury
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Speaker 2: at the end of last season, but there was a
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Speaker 2: good chance he wasn't going to get there again last year.
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Speaker 2: So and last year twenty two touchdowns and eleven interceptions.
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Speaker 2: It's not terrible, but it's not good. And so statistics, yeah,
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Speaker 2: they don't tell the whole story. You'd still rather have
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Speaker 2: the champion, But you got to get to the playoffs first.
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Speaker 2: And the truth of the matter is, and this tells
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Speaker 2: nothing of the whole story, but Patrick Mohones might not
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Speaker 2: even be a starting quarterback for your fantasy team, your
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Speaker 2: fantasy league this year. I mean, that's how much the
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Speaker 2: statistics have dropped off with a guy that we put
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Speaker 2: at the top of the list because of his three
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl championships. Like I said, I think he's going
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Speaker 2: to get back to being to having a great run.
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Speaker 2: I don't think he's done winning super Bowls, frankly, and
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Speaker 2: I know he's not done finishing off his Hall of
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Speaker 2: Fame resume, but it's been three four years since he's
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Speaker 2: been Get on my back. I don't care who I have.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be the best player on the field.
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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. I mean, I watched Josh Allen and I
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Speaker 2: think to myself, that guy makes more plays than Patrick
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Speaker 2: Mahomes does. Now. Now, the problem with and this is
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Speaker 2: why it's such an interesting conversation. Josh Allen can't win
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs or he can't win the big one.
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Speaker 2: And last year was his worst performance in a playoff out.
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Speaker 2: He's the reason the Bill's lost that game. In Denver,
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Speaker 2: and so that's where the conversation becomes quite interesting. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: these are executives being pulled. These are people that are
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Speaker 2: making these decisions. These aren't fans making these decisions. These
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Speaker 2: aren't players who are terrible at voting making these decisions.
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Speaker 2: These are NFL executive front office people that are saying,
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Speaker 2: I'd rather face Patrick Mahomes than Josh Allen if I've
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Speaker 2: got to win a football game that day, And that
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Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense to me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense to me too.
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't put Mahomes over Allen based on what we've
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Speaker 3: seen last year, especially, but obviously with his injury, you
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Speaker 3: can't do anything or he can't do anything about that.
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Speaker 3: But I don't think that he was very impressive before
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Speaker 3: the injury.
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Speaker 1: And he wasn't.
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Speaker 3: I mean, and you can go back to the last
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl and that wasn't a good outing by the Chiefs,
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Speaker 3: And so I don't I think that people want to
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Speaker 3: rank Mahomes based on his the entirety of his career.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can't do that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if that's the list we're making, he's
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Speaker 2: number one.
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Speaker 1: Right, But that's yeah, but that's not the list that
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Speaker 1: they're making.
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Speaker 3: So anyone that's arguing that he should be ahead of Alan,
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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, you want to think about the entirety
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Speaker 3: of his career. Well, for sure, he's better than Josh Allen,
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Speaker 3: but that's not what this list is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he hasn't had more than thirty touchdowns and four seasons.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, and to have gone from
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Speaker 1: fifty in season one that's Matt Stafford.
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Speaker 2: Had forty six. Last year, Patrick Mahomes had twenty two.
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Speaker 2: I had there was a guy that had more than
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Speaker 2: double the touchdown passes than Patrick Mahomes had a year ago.
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Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's a lot of reasons to explain this.
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Speaker 2: I watched Patrick Mahomes and I still think he's great.
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Speaker 2: But you know, Tom Brady was not considered the best.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there was a big conversation Tom Brady was
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Speaker 2: winning the championship and Peyton wasn't. But a lot of people,
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Speaker 2: including me and perhaps mistakenly, thought Peyton was the better quarterback.
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Speaker 2: He didn't have Bill Belichick, he didn't have the Patriots defense.
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Speaker 2: You know, look at the numbers he's putting up. Until
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Speaker 2: Tom Brady had that. Randy moss I can put up
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Speaker 2: if you give me the right weapons, give me a
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame wide receiver, and watch the numbers I'll
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Speaker 2: put up. And then he put up individual statistics in
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Speaker 2: a season on par with anybody in history. And now
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, eyes got up an like, oh okay, yeah,
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Speaker 2: And then he tacked onto that more championships, and then
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Speaker 2: he tacked onto that incredible longevity, and then he just
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Speaker 2: pulled away from Peyton and now he's not only considered
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Speaker 2: better than Peyton Manning, he's considered the greatest quarterback of
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Speaker 2: all time and maybe the greatest football player of all
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Speaker 2: time of all time. But he needed those numbers in
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Speaker 2: order to put himself put distance between himself and Peyton Manning.
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Speaker 2: Like the championships kind of weren't enough, he also had
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Speaker 2: to show I can put up numbers too, if you
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Speaker 2: give me Kronk and Moss. I got two Hall of
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Speaker 2: famers to throw to like Peyton's had during during the
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Speaker 2: course of his career. And so now it's indisputable. But
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Speaker 2: I think Tom had to have the consistently good statistics
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Speaker 2: to show I'm not just making the big plays when
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Speaker 2: the team requires it, even though that's a huge, huge
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Speaker 2: feather in his cap. He also had to show, Hey,
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Speaker 2: you give me the right offense, you give me the
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Speaker 2: right weapons around me, I can put up better numbers
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Speaker 2: than anybody that's ever played that game, this game, and
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Speaker 2: so they do matter. They do matter in the conversation.
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Speaker 2: And right now Patrick Malmes just is not putting up
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Speaker 2: impressive statistics and it's been three seasons since he's done that. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well, and I also think Tom Brady had to prove
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Speaker 3: that it wasn't Bill Belichick that got him to that,
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Speaker 3: you know, was the reason for his success solely. And
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Speaker 3: there's I've heard conversations in the past about you know,
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Speaker 3: would Patrick Mahomes be Patrick Mahomes if he didn't have
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Speaker 3: Andy Reid and not saying that they need to separate
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Speaker 3: or anything, but that's those are you know, ongoing conversations
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Speaker 3: that people are going to have about these great players
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Speaker 3: all the time.
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Speaker 1: Is how responsible are the coaches that are coaching them?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think Tom Brady proved I'm the reason, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's not Belichick, and so that that also kind of
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Speaker 2: cemented him. Yes, but I think Patrick Mahomes is going
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Speaker 2: to be statistically great again, But lately he has not been.
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Speaker 2: It's like some sort of awkward transitional phase for him.
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Speaker 2: But I mean that's just comes with the territory. You
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Speaker 2: can win championships, you can be Derek Cheter, you can
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Speaker 2: be Derek Cheeter, and yet people will still wonder are
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Speaker 2: you as good as Barry Bonds, though, because the numbers
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Speaker 2: get dwarfed. Barry Bonds dwarfs Derek Jeters statistics over his career,
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Speaker 2: nobody thinks Derek Jeter's better than Barry Bonds, even though
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Speaker 2: Jeter's the guy with all the championships and the captain
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Speaker 2: and the leader and all of that sort of thing.
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Speaker 2: But statistics do play a role in the telling of
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Speaker 2: the story. And it just looks to me, and I
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Speaker 2: think it looks to the people that made this list
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Speaker 2: from a week to week basis. Josh Allen's just a
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Speaker 2: bigger nightmare to face right now than what Patrick Mahomes is.
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Speaker 2: I want to see him recover. I want to see
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Speaker 2: vintage Patrick Mahomes because and I think that we will.
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Speaker 2: I think that we will here in the next decade.
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Speaker 2: All right, coming up next on our radio program, Boy,
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Speaker 2: there are a couple of things that remind me of
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Speaker 2: my youth and they both happen this week Sports Radio
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Speaker 1: What may or may not be the final swing of
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Speaker 1: the bats tonight?
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Speaker 2: There we got it one number nine. It's number ten.
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Speaker 4: Wow, one more time short walker can upend the whole thing.
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Speaker 2: We have a home run right here? St it was
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Speaker 2: it six in a row? He had it six in
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Speaker 2: a row? Yeah, to take it over like and the
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Speaker 2: way the format worked, you only had twenty swings or
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Speaker 2: fifteen in that round. Uh so, but if you got
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Speaker 2: to your last swing and you hit a home run
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Speaker 2: on your last sing, you got another pitch. So they
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Speaker 2: would just tack them all until you missed. And so
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Speaker 2: he had to basically with his last wing, he had
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Speaker 2: to hit it out for six swings in a row
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Speaker 2: in order to track down Kyle Schwarber.
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Speaker 5: And he did it.
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Speaker 1: It was pretty cool.
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Speaker 6: It was great.
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Speaker 2: It was great. Best home run derby maybe certainly in
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Speaker 2: a long time, but maybe ever in terms of just
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Speaker 2: the full scale competition. I mean, I remember the Josh
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Speaker 2: Hamilton performance. I remember the Mark McGuire performance. There have
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Speaker 2: been some individual performances Ken Grivy Junior that might have
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Speaker 2: stood out, but in terms of how good it was
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Speaker 2: from beginning to end. I'm not sure I've seen a
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Speaker 2: better one.
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Speaker 1: I would agree that was really good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning to you. We move into our number
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Speaker 2: two of the Chugging Buck on the Radio morning radio program,
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Speaker 2: and we've got a lot to do here today. A
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Speaker 2: number of great guests that we're gonna have on. Ryan
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Speaker 2: Healey will join us a little bit later on talking
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Speaker 2: about the home run derby and some other things. And
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Speaker 2: here in a matter of seconds, Mario Bailey will be
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Speaker 2: joining us. My favorite Husky player of all time. He's
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Speaker 2: coming up here in a matter of moments. But first
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Speaker 2: let's rip through your headlines brought to you by Frost
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Speaker 2: Brewed Course. Jordan Walker of the Saint Louis Cardinals won
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Speaker 2: an epic home run derby last night, defeating the hometown favorite,
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Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber income from behind fashion. The All Star Game
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Speaker 2: will be played tonight. Billy Christopher Sanchez starts for the
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Speaker 2: National League squad. The American League will start Dylan Sees,
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Speaker 2: the right hander from Toronto. Randy A. Rose Arena will
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Speaker 2: represent the Mariners at Tonight's All Star Game. The Mariners
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Speaker 2: won't play again until Friday at home against San Francisco,
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Speaker 2: so an all Star break, a true all Star break
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Speaker 2: for practically the entire organization. World Cup resumes today at noon.
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Speaker 2: It'll be Spain versus France right here on KJAR. Tomorrow
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Speaker 2: Argentina versus England. Anders Hearst will join us to talk
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Speaker 2: about both matches. Today at nine thirty. We are eleven
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Speaker 2: days until training camp begins for the Seahawks, and we
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Speaker 2: are just seconds away from our Huskies One series continuing
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Speaker 2: right here on Chuck and Buck in the morning. Well
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Speaker 2: in July, during the All Star break, we do our
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Speaker 2: Huskies One series, which is one of our top analysts
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Speaker 2: in town, breaking down one entire unit for the Huskies
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Speaker 2: for one entire interview and joining us here today. Husky legend,
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Speaker 2: part of the Hanks right here on KJAR. And as
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Speaker 2: I say every time he joins us, my favorite Husky
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Speaker 2: football player of all time, the great Mario Bailey, is
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Speaker 2: with us here on Chuck and Buck.
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Speaker 6: Hello, sir, what's up?
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Speaker 4: Man?
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Speaker 7: I gotta go check and listen to you to make
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Speaker 7: sure you don't call somebody Husky Nope.
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Speaker 2: And I'm really tight with Hugh Millen And it's always you.
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Speaker 2: It's always you, Mario all right, I'll take it. Yeah, yeah, sure,
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Speaker 2: why not? Why wouldn't you take it? Well, look, we're
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Speaker 2: having Mario on here today to talk about wide receivers
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Speaker 2: and running backs. So that's the group that we're going
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Speaker 2: to discuss. As you might have guessed, and what a run.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a great history that this program
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Speaker 2: has with wide receivers and you're in that group. But
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Speaker 2: here in the last ten years since I moved to town.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you think about Ross and a Duneesay and
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Speaker 2: McMillan and now Denzel Boston can be added to that
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Speaker 2: list of excellent alums at this position is this university.
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Speaker 2: This program's kind of known as defensive back university. But Mario,
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Speaker 2: the wide receivers that you've had historically in the Huskies
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Speaker 2: program cannot be slept on.
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Speaker 6: No, they cannot.
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Speaker 7: And I think the DBU just came with Coach Lake's
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Speaker 7: reign that he had with a bunch of dbs going
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Speaker 7: in first round, and we just had a bunch of
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Speaker 7: DB's going period. But we've always had a standout or
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Speaker 7: two receivers. In the last few years, Coach de Boor
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Speaker 7: and now Coach have both brought in receivers last year
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Speaker 7: we had Denzel go first round. A year before it
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Speaker 7: was Jalen Polk, Jalen McMillan, and of course Rome. So
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Speaker 7: I just think the receivers have always been there, but
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Speaker 7: we just had a little stretch there where we were
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Speaker 7: DBU for a while.
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Speaker 2: Well, I want to talk about this year's receivers, but
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Speaker 2: let's talk about last year's receiver, the number one target,
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Speaker 2: Denzel Boston and how much he'll be missed. Is there
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Speaker 2: a guy that can step in this year that can
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Speaker 2: do what Denzel did a year ago.
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Speaker 7: I don't know if we can replace Denzel. I think
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Speaker 7: down when we got to the red zone, we had
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Speaker 7: this big, huge target and we would just go to
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Speaker 7: him and he would always make the play. He would
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Speaker 7: play bully ball, as I call it, and I just
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Speaker 7: think he was phenomenal at that It didn't matter that
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Speaker 7: you knew the ball was.
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Speaker 6: Going to him.
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Speaker 7: We were still gonna throw it to him and he
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Speaker 7: was still gonna make the play. Now, I do think
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Speaker 7: Desmond Robock had a great end of the year and
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Speaker 7: became our second receiver last year, and I think it's
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Speaker 7: you know once you do that. But this year it's
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Speaker 7: a little different because you.
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Speaker 6: Don't have Denzel.
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Speaker 7: People were gonna key on you, and it's gonna be
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Speaker 7: slightly different. But we can move Desmond around. So I
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Speaker 7: plan on him having a great year. But it's a
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Speaker 7: little it's a little difficult when you're the number one
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Speaker 7: guy and you're not sneaking up on people.
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Speaker 6: When people have to plan for you, it changes it
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Speaker 6: a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so he's the clear cut number one. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you still expect him to be the wide receiver one
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Speaker 2: of this group. Rollbuck, I do.
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Speaker 1: I do.
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Speaker 7: I like the Christian Moss that the transfer from I
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Speaker 7: don't know if it's Kenwick State or something like that,
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Speaker 7: And I think he's going to be good, probably because
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Speaker 7: he wears the number five, and I think that, but
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Speaker 7: I do have man.
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Speaker 2: Why is anyone wearing number five in this program?
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Speaker 7: I'd like to know, man, That's what I keep asking,
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Speaker 7: the same thing. But I understand college we don't retire numbers.
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Speaker 7: But I think Christian Moss will do a great job
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Speaker 7: of taking some pressure off. I mean, Sheee Williams played
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Speaker 7: pretty sparingly last year, but he's pretty good and I
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Speaker 7: saw him in spring and he did a great job,
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Speaker 7: which looking for who's going to step up. You never
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Speaker 7: know who's going to step up, because once those lights
19:06
Speaker 7: come shining, it doesn't matter what Spring does and what
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Speaker 7: camp does this summer. It really matters on what happens
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Speaker 7: when those lights turn on, and guys turn into different
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Speaker 7: people once the light the lights come on.
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Speaker 2: What is it that you learned, Because I mean, I'm
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Speaker 2: sure Roebuck would like nothing more than to follow in
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Speaker 2: your footsteps in this program. But when you got your
19:27
Speaker 2: first taste of collegiate football at such a high level,
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Speaker 2: and then your second year full year after that, what
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Speaker 2: is it that you picked up from the first year
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Speaker 2: and the trials and tribulations that go with tasting it
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Speaker 2: for the first time, and then we're able to apply
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Speaker 2: to take your game to a whole new level the
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Speaker 2: following season.
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Speaker 6: The biggest word I would use is consistency.
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Speaker 7: You know, you have these ups and downs and you're
19:56
Speaker 7: trying to figure it out, and you're learning things, and
19:59
Speaker 7: you're starting all the time now, But it's consistency to
20:04
Speaker 7: be consistent every game and be consistent every route, every play.
20:08
Speaker 7: You have to learn that, and I don't think you
20:10
Speaker 7: get that in your first year, and some people maybe
20:13
Speaker 7: not even their second.
20:15
Speaker 6: Honestly, I didn't get it till my third year.
20:17
Speaker 7: My freshman year was a waste a year, probably caught
20:19
Speaker 7: four catches the entire season, and my sophomore year I had.
20:24
Speaker 6: To learn consistent.
20:25
Speaker 7: Since consistency, I would have these great games and in
20:28
Speaker 7: the next game I'd be nowhere to be found. Now,
20:31
Speaker 7: part of that is the coach not throwing me the ball,
20:33
Speaker 7: but I feel like I wasn't doing my part, and
20:36
Speaker 7: it's being consistent. So we're looking for robots to be
20:39
Speaker 7: consistent and show it every every week, and we need
20:42
Speaker 7: them to have a partner out there that's gonna take
20:45
Speaker 7: some pressure off of them.
20:46
Speaker 2: You know that you brought up number five. You know,
20:49
Speaker 2: Dana Hall is like one of my other favorite Washington
20:52
Speaker 2: Huskies of all time. What is it about you?
20:55
Speaker 4: Yeah?
20:56
Speaker 7: And if I if I talk today and I call
20:59
Speaker 7: him number five and he calls me number five. He
21:02
Speaker 7: had it before I got there. Actually, when I got there,
21:05
Speaker 7: Coach James, they gave me number eighty. My mom called
21:09
Speaker 7: and yelled at them because they promised me number five.
21:12
Speaker 6: The next day, it was sitting in my locker and
21:15
Speaker 6: I told him, no, I don't want it.
21:17
Speaker 7: So my freshman year, I wore number eighty and I
21:19
Speaker 7: told him if I can earn number five, so I
21:22
Speaker 7: had it my sophomore year.
21:23
Speaker 6: On after that.
21:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well maybe five should be retired. I think
21:27
Speaker 2: maybe we should make a new rule. It is Mario
21:30
Speaker 2: Bailey with us Husky's one series right here on Chucking
21:33
Speaker 2: Buck in the Mornings, one analyst in town breaking down
21:36
Speaker 2: one key Seahawk player for one entire interview. Well, let's
21:39
Speaker 2: talk about the running back group because this truly seems
21:42
Speaker 2: like a mystery on this roster. I mean, from the
21:46
Speaker 2: pure standpoint of if you look at the depth chart,
21:50
Speaker 2: the carry seemed to be going to two transfers and
21:52
Speaker 2: maybe a freshman is going to get some playing time
21:57
Speaker 2: in the backfield, a considerable amount of playing time. So
22:00
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need you to be our insider here. What's
22:03
Speaker 2: happening inside those walls on Montlake. Who looks like the
22:09
Speaker 2: guy that's going to be RB one on the depth
22:11
Speaker 2: chart this year?
22:13
Speaker 7: It looks like Jade Lamar. I think he's coming from Oregon,
22:17
Speaker 7: and I think he will be our guy. But again,
22:21
Speaker 7: it's what I said, It's like once those lights turn on,
22:23
Speaker 7: you never know who's gonna show up. I know Trey
22:25
Speaker 7: Cooley is behind him, but he's transferred like maybe two
22:30
Speaker 7: or three times, so I'm always leary when a young
22:33
Speaker 7: man transfers so many times. But Jade Lamar is our guy. Actually,
22:38
Speaker 7: there's a freshman that's coming in from Oregon. He's last
22:42
Speaker 7: on the depth chart. I think on Sue, I think
22:45
Speaker 7: he's gonna be great if he gets in. I think
22:47
Speaker 7: he's one of those guys that is a playmaker and
22:50
Speaker 7: can make some plays. We have another freshman, Brian Barnard,
22:53
Speaker 7: I believe, but I think the on from Oregon can
22:57
Speaker 7: make some plays if he gets the opportunity.
23:00
Speaker 2: About Quaid Car, what you're hearing about him, because he
23:02
Speaker 2: was creating quite the buzz during spring. I mean, we
23:07
Speaker 2: had Jed Fish on and even he kind of revealed
23:11
Speaker 2: a little bit of giddiness over what this guy could
23:14
Speaker 2: be immediately for this team. So what should we know
23:17
Speaker 2: about Quaid Car before the season gets underway.
23:21
Speaker 7: Quaid is the only one I didn't miss, and Quaid
23:23
Speaker 7: was the only one that on there that was here
23:26
Speaker 7: last year. I think Quaid has an opportunity because he
23:29
Speaker 7: knows the system and because he's already comfortable It goes
23:33
Speaker 7: a long way to be comfortable, to know your coaches,
23:36
Speaker 7: to know the plays, to know the system and know
23:39
Speaker 7: how to get around. I think Quaid has a chance
23:41
Speaker 7: to make some plays. I think he could easily be
23:44
Speaker 7: our number two guy. I've heard all out there that
23:49
Speaker 7: all during spring and going into camp that they love him.
23:53
Speaker 7: But it's just a matter of if he's going to
23:55
Speaker 7: take advantage of the opportunity, because I felt like last
23:58
Speaker 7: year he had an opportunity early and he didn't.
24:02
Speaker 6: He didn't didn't come to fruition.
24:04
Speaker 2: Mario Bailey is with us for our Husky so one
24:07
Speaker 2: series as we break down the running backs and wide
24:10
Speaker 2: receivers for the twenty twenty six Washington Huskies, And I'll
24:14
Speaker 2: cheat a little bit and draw the quarterback into the
24:17
Speaker 2: conversation even though we're supposed to be this discussing running
24:20
Speaker 2: back and wide receiver. But considering williams dual threat capabilities,
24:26
Speaker 2: I mean, what will the offense look like? How much
24:30
Speaker 2: of it's going to be built around Demon Williams. Is
24:32
Speaker 2: he going to be the leading rusher on this team
24:35
Speaker 2: and also throw the ball forty times per game?
24:40
Speaker 7: It could easily be that he could easily be it
24:43
Speaker 7: demon could be a thousand, two thousand guy easily, if
24:47
Speaker 7: that's what he wants to do, or if that's what
24:49
Speaker 7: Coach Fish wants him to be.
24:52
Speaker 6: We just don't know what the year entails.
24:55
Speaker 7: But I do think he's gonna have to run a
24:57
Speaker 7: little bit more this year, but hopefully his his little
25:00
Speaker 7: frame can take that.
25:02
Speaker 6: And that's always been the question.
25:03
Speaker 7: We don't want to get this young man hurt, but
25:06
Speaker 7: we also want to win, and we want to take
25:07
Speaker 7: it to the next level. And if we're we're going
25:09
Speaker 7: to take it to the next level, we probably need
25:12
Speaker 7: him to have at least eight hundred yards rushing this year.
25:15
Speaker 2: And how is the team reacting from what you're hearing
25:19
Speaker 2: to his interesting offseason that he had.
25:23
Speaker 6: Man, it's water under the bridge. He's still our team leader,
25:26
Speaker 6: you know.
25:27
Speaker 7: And I think it's one of those things is once
25:29
Speaker 7: that first game kicks off Apple Cup and he throws
25:33
Speaker 7: for three hundred and runs four hundred, all this forgotten.
25:36
Speaker 7: Now there is the other side of that, if we're
25:39
Speaker 7: getting our butts kicked and something were to happen, and
25:43
Speaker 7: people are going to point to that situation.
25:45
Speaker 6: But for me personally too, it's water under the bridge.
25:48
Speaker 6: He's a young man. Money talks around here. I get it.
25:53
Speaker 7: I do believe in loyalty, but hey, I'm not in
25:56
Speaker 7: his situation. So it's water under the bridge, and I
25:58
Speaker 7: just hope he leads us to the next level.
26:01
Speaker 2: How much would you have enjoyed throwing the ball forty
26:04
Speaker 2: times a game back in your day?
26:07
Speaker 6: Man?
26:07
Speaker 7: I tell people all the time that I would have
26:09
Speaker 7: records up there that would never be touched and I
26:12
Speaker 7: would enjoy that.
26:13
Speaker 6: But Coach James was definitely not having that.
26:16
Speaker 7: We were lucky that he turned it up a notch
26:19
Speaker 7: and hired Gilberson and got to throw it twenty five
26:21
Speaker 7: times a game.
26:23
Speaker 2: If there would have been like some like Martian from
26:26
Speaker 2: the future that would have landed back in your day
26:30
Speaker 2: and told Coach James that the future of the sport
26:33
Speaker 2: is throwing the ball forty forty five times a game,
26:36
Speaker 2: what do you think would have happened?
26:38
Speaker 6: He wouldn't have cared whatsoever. It wouldn't have There's no way,
26:43
Speaker 6: I don't care.
26:43
Speaker 7: What that Martian did. He he would have staffed that
26:47
Speaker 7: Martian aside. In no way any any of that was
26:50
Speaker 7: being listened to.
26:51
Speaker 2: Get out of my office. Martian yeah, right now, Well
26:56
Speaker 2: you pumped? Are you ready to go? Do you need
26:58
Speaker 2: a little more time off this summer or are you
27:02
Speaker 2: counting the days till Husky football? At this point, I'm
27:05
Speaker 2: in between there.
27:06
Speaker 7: Some days I'm pumped and others like, man, this has
27:09
Speaker 7: come back pretty quick, And it's still weird that the Apple.
27:13
Speaker 6: Cup is how we started off.
27:14
Speaker 7: But you know, I'm looking forward to it, even talking
27:17
Speaker 7: to you right now and looking at the difference in
27:20
Speaker 7: our roster and seeing guys I like to see guys
27:23
Speaker 7: come on the scene and explode and some guys you
27:25
Speaker 7: didn't know, we're gonna do as well as they And
27:28
Speaker 7: looking at Desmond Rodbox seeing if he can step it
27:31
Speaker 7: up another notch, and looking at demand.
27:34
Speaker 6: You know, that situation is haunting for some people. So
27:38
Speaker 6: I want to see him succeed and I want to
27:40
Speaker 6: see him do well. Well.
27:42
Speaker 2: I always buy a college basketball or a college football
27:45
Speaker 2: magazine every year, despite the fact that all this information
27:48
Speaker 2: is more up to date on the internet, I still
27:50
Speaker 2: do the magazine purchase every year, and so I purchased
27:55
Speaker 2: it yesterday, so it was you know, now I'm ready
27:58
Speaker 2: for college football, officially ready for college football, and I
28:02
Speaker 2: am on the countdown and look the magazine that I
28:05
Speaker 2: grabbed and I don't need to plug it, but ranked
28:08
Speaker 2: number nineteen in the country. I mean that's you're right,
28:12
Speaker 2: number nineteen in the country. This magazine's predicting like a
28:16
Speaker 2: nine to three season. Is it going to be that
28:19
Speaker 2: type of a year for Washington? Maybe a little bit better?
28:22
Speaker 2: What's your outlook right now?
28:25
Speaker 7: My outlook is that right there is I have us
28:28
Speaker 7: at a nine and three season, and anything past that
28:31
Speaker 7: is cake like. I would be happy. But I think
28:34
Speaker 7: demand leads us easily to nine and three. The question
28:38
Speaker 7: is is his surrounding cast is who steps up? Can
28:42
Speaker 7: they step up? I love our defense. I think the
28:45
Speaker 7: defense is plug and play. I think coach has a
28:48
Speaker 7: great handle on it. So I'm looking forward to that.
28:50
Speaker 7: But nine and three is about where I have us.
28:54
Speaker 2: You can listen to every single second that I've ever
28:57
Speaker 2: done at KJR, and you were always my favorite Husky
29:00
Speaker 2: football player of all time.
29:02
Speaker 1: I can vouch for that.
29:03
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, it is I was going to check you out.
29:09
Speaker 2: Yeah you trust Ashley? Yeah, and I thought I was
29:11
Speaker 2: a snake. Yeah yeah, Well, hey man, thank you very much.
29:16
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear the coverage this fall and
29:19
Speaker 2: always great catching up with you.
29:22
Speaker 6: I really appreciate you. Thank you, Go dogs.
29:25
Speaker 2: Mario Bailey joining us right here, the one, the only
29:27
Speaker 2: Mario Bailey. I've talked to Hugh about this too, and
29:30
Speaker 2: he's perfectly fine with Mario being my favorite husky player of.
29:33
Speaker 1: All time, perfectly good with it and as he should be.
29:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he should be. I mean Mario was just
29:40
Speaker 2: he was electrifying. He was good. Yeah, not electrifying.
29:44
Speaker 3: Well, I think he would also admit he's there's not
29:47
Speaker 3: a lot electrifying.
29:50
Speaker 2: There's electrifying in his analysis, though, and that's what we
29:54
Speaker 2: get every fall from Hugh Millin and Mario Baby plus
29:58
Speaker 2: all right, coming up next, ABC's of Them. Sports Radio
30:02
Speaker 2: ninety three point three KJRFM. We left off yesterday with
30:05
Speaker 2: the letter d D is for Derby. Last night's home
30:09
Speaker 2: run Derby fantastic. I mean, maybe the most complete best
30:12
Speaker 2: home run Derby from the beginning to the end that
30:15
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. Like the new rule changes, they did
30:19
Speaker 2: satisfy what I wanted them to change about the Derby,
30:23
Speaker 2: and yet until you watch it unfold, you're like, is
30:26
Speaker 2: there something about this that I didn't see that this
30:29
Speaker 2: is going to end up being disastrous. I think Jeff
30:31
Speaker 2: Passen said it was going to end up being disastrous
30:34
Speaker 2: and then midway through apologized and said this is awesome.
30:39
Speaker 6: And it was.
30:39
Speaker 2: It was awesome. But I mean, the one thing, if
30:42
Speaker 2: there was one thing that took away from it last night,
30:46
Speaker 2: was I don't know about you, Ashley, but my reminder
30:49
Speaker 2: of last year's Home Run Derby. Because last year was
30:52
Speaker 2: the Year of Cal, and like everything seemed to fall
30:55
Speaker 2: in place for Cal Raleigh a year ago, including that
30:58
Speaker 2: incredible Derby turn around that he ended up winning the
31:01
Speaker 2: home Run Derby, but he's not there to defend his title,
31:05
Speaker 2: not that he would have anyway, because he's had such
31:07
Speaker 2: a rough season. I mean, last year, I don't know
31:09
Speaker 2: how many times I talked about the Year of Cal.
31:11
Speaker 2: Everything just seems to be falling into place, and then
31:14
Speaker 2: this year nothing has fallen into place. Going all the
31:17
Speaker 2: way back to the WBC, his first time on the
31:20
Speaker 2: injury list, the batting average of one seventy not even considered.
31:24
Speaker 2: I think he finished like ninth or tenth, and the
31:26
Speaker 2: voting for catchers in the American League, for goodness sake,
31:30
Speaker 2: So I think this is the way that we get
31:32
Speaker 2: tested as human beings. You know, how do you react
31:35
Speaker 2: when everything goes well for you, and how do you
31:37
Speaker 2: react when nothing goes well for you? And that's what
31:41
Speaker 2: we're experiencing for Dumper in twenty twenty six right now.
31:44
Speaker 5: I know.
31:44
Speaker 3: And it's sad because obviously everybody loves Cal so much
31:47
Speaker 3: and it was so fun watching last year. That's what
31:49
Speaker 3: I thought too. That's why I was like, I just
31:51
Speaker 3: don't think one. I don't think I could have been
31:52
Speaker 3: as excited as I was for the Derby last year
31:55
Speaker 3: with calan it or even when Julio was in it.
31:58
Speaker 3: It's just different when you don't have a dog in
32:00
Speaker 3: the fight and you're just kind of watching. But it's
32:02
Speaker 3: also enjoyable because you're watching with no expectations, right as
32:06
Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier, and it exceeded my expectations. But yeah,
32:10
Speaker 3: that it hangs there, that that Cal, the col fun,
32:15
Speaker 3: the Cal excitement. It's just missing this year and I
32:17
Speaker 3: want it back.
32:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. I do think we'll get it back,
32:20
Speaker 2: not to the degree of a year ago. But I
32:23
Speaker 2: think he's I mean, he has to, he just has to.
32:26
Speaker 2: He asked to have a good I'm not gonna go.
32:29
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say he goes from struggling offensively to
32:32
Speaker 2: great in the second half, but I think he can
32:35
Speaker 2: go from struggling to good here in the second half.
32:38
Speaker 2: And if you just get good col which is what
32:40
Speaker 2: we've gotten for nearly all of his career until he
32:44
Speaker 2: was great Cal offensively, that is, then we'll pull away
32:49
Speaker 2: in the American League West, and then we'll figure out
32:52
Speaker 2: what to do in the playoffs. But it's certainly, I mean,
32:55
Speaker 2: he's it. I mean, of all the factors, if you
32:58
Speaker 2: want to rank them, the biggest one is Cal back
33:01
Speaker 2: to being good Cal again.
33:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's the most important.
33:04
Speaker 2: I would agree he is for Emerson's This is gonna
33:07
Speaker 2: be interesting as Brendan Donovan starts to come back, and
33:11
Speaker 2: obviously this organization is married to JP Crawford in some fashion.
33:15
Speaker 2: He's going through Colt his first struggles offensively, I think
33:20
Speaker 2: he makes up the difference defensively over what you were
33:23
Speaker 2: getting from JP Crawford. But I'm going to be interested
33:27
Speaker 2: to see how they're going to handle Brendan Donovan being activated.
33:32
Speaker 2: Apparently he's going to be playing this week. Apparently Donovan's
33:35
Speaker 2: going to be in games this week. Well, we have
33:38
Speaker 2: five weeks or excuse me, five days, four days before
33:42
Speaker 2: we play another game. So how much can he get
33:45
Speaker 2: done on a reab assignment? How many more games will
33:49
Speaker 2: he actually miss? And then the big question is how
33:52
Speaker 2: does he fit on this roster again? Where is he playing?
33:56
Speaker 2: If he's starting every day again, I miss him. I'm
34:00
Speaker 2: hitting leadoff. I think he should be hitting leadoff, and
34:03
Speaker 2: I don't miss him playing third base defensively, But but
34:09
Speaker 2: we've since since he was last on this team, we
34:12
Speaker 2: have a different third baseman, and how are they going
34:15
Speaker 2: to manage it? I hate the idea that maybe JP
34:19
Speaker 2: takes his shortstops job back and cold Emerson in the
34:22
Speaker 2: midst of his struggles. I'm not saying they're going they're
34:25
Speaker 2: thinking about doing this, but maybe it's on the table
34:30
Speaker 2: sent back to Triple A to kind of oh reboot.
34:34
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if that's on the table,
34:36
Speaker 2: but I don't like that idea. And then the other
34:39
Speaker 2: Emerson Emerson Hancock. I mean, there's an awful lot of
34:42
Speaker 2: talk right now about this team's looking to trade a
34:45
Speaker 2: pitcher for a piece that they're missing, and then the
34:48
Speaker 2: piece that continues to be brought up is a back
34:52
Speaker 2: of the end reliever. I brought up Mason Miller yesterday.
34:57
Speaker 2: The only way that I would consider moving one one
35:00
Speaker 2: of our five young guys. It's gonna be hard to
35:02
Speaker 2: get anything for Castillo, moving one of our five young
35:07
Speaker 2: pitchers starting pitchers for a reliever, it better be the
35:11
Speaker 2: best in the world, which is what Mason Miller is.
35:14
Speaker 2: He is apparently available, and I wonder. I wonder if
35:18
Speaker 2: this organization, this is just me wondering. I don't know
35:20
Speaker 2: any information would think. You know, Emerson Hancock took a
35:24
Speaker 2: long time to get here. Do we sell high clear
35:29
Speaker 2: up our overcrowded starting rotation. If somebody gets hurt, we
35:32
Speaker 2: have Kate Anderson to lean on in the second half,
35:35
Speaker 2: and we bring in the best closer in the game
35:38
Speaker 2: who's under club control, to wipe out any doubts late
35:43
Speaker 2: in baseball games. I wonder if it's on the table,
35:46
Speaker 2: I just do.
35:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but the fact that
35:51
Speaker 3: it's taken this long is a good point, and that
35:54
Speaker 3: they could get a lot for him.
35:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
35:58
Speaker 3: I would hate it, but I'd hate to see him go.
36:00
Speaker 3: I would love getting Mason Miller. I would hate to
36:03
Speaker 3: see him go.
36:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate the idea of both of those things
36:06
Speaker 2: that I brought up. Yeah, I don't want cold Emmerson
36:08
Speaker 2: needing a reboot in Tacoma, and I don't need Emerson
36:12
Speaker 2: Hancock traded away because he's having a great season and
36:16
Speaker 2: you could sell high on him. I don't like the
36:18
Speaker 2: idea of either of those, but certainly has been That's
36:22
Speaker 2: been a couple of things I've been thinking about since
36:24
Speaker 2: yesterday's show. Finally f is for the firing. Yes yesterday,
36:29
Speaker 2: on the show, I went as far as saying, I
36:32
Speaker 2: think it's time to move in a new direction with
36:34
Speaker 2: our manager. I had pushback on that from some most
36:39
Speaker 2: agreed with me on our text line and the various
36:43
Speaker 2: forms of communicating with us. But I certainly did have
36:46
Speaker 2: some pushback, and that's good. I wanted pushback. I asked
36:48
Speaker 2: for pushback, and one of the things I said that
36:52
Speaker 2: was pushed back on me was, well, why don't fire
36:54
Speaker 2: Sitzer and Perry Hill while you're at it, because the
36:58
Speaker 2: offense is struggling and the defense struggling. And my answer
37:01
Speaker 2: to that is they've got better track records. Like Kevin
37:06
Speaker 2: Seitzer had a terrific season, and he's had three months
37:10
Speaker 2: of the offense not performing as well. Perry Hill. This
37:13
Speaker 2: isn't me saying it. This is everybody that comes to
37:16
Speaker 2: spring training that puts on a Mariner uniform for the
37:19
Speaker 2: first time telling me they can't wait to work with
37:22
Speaker 2: the best in the business. I think their track records
37:25
Speaker 2: are a little longer, deeper, more accomplished for their roles,
37:31
Speaker 2: specific roles within the organization. The manager, and it's a
37:36
Speaker 2: little larger scale, really is held responsible for how well
37:41
Speaker 2: his team is responding to his leadership and when you
37:45
Speaker 2: are grossly underachieving like this team is, and frankly, I
37:49
Speaker 2: thought they grossly underachieved for most of last season. I mean,
37:53
Speaker 2: the only time that Dan Rolson really made a big
37:57
Speaker 2: difference in my opinion was at the tail end of
37:59
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. And let's look back at that historically,
38:04
Speaker 2: Scott Service and the team, they experienced an up and
38:08
Speaker 2: down season if you remember just I mean, it's kind
38:10
Speaker 2: of very similar, like we thought we were going to
38:13
Speaker 2: get going and then all of a sudden we did
38:15
Speaker 2: a snag and lose seven of eight. Well, they had
38:17
Speaker 2: lost seven of eight coming off of a road trip,
38:22
Speaker 2: actually eight of nine. Coming off of a road trip,
38:25
Speaker 2: they had fallen all the way back to five hundred.
38:27
Speaker 2: We're a game under five hundred right now. And on
38:30
Speaker 2: August twenty sixth, Jerry made the decision while Scott was
38:35
Speaker 2: flying back that we're going to change managers and go
38:39
Speaker 2: to Dan Wilson. Kind of a similar situation, like there
38:43
Speaker 2: was this feeling of we think this team's better than
38:47
Speaker 2: the way that they're playing, and we feel like maybe
38:50
Speaker 2: Scott's not getting the most out of them. It's not
38:53
Speaker 2: going to be easy for us. He's been with us
38:55
Speaker 2: for a long time, but we feel like we need
38:58
Speaker 2: a new voice. And what happened, and they won their
39:00
Speaker 2: very first game with Wilson. They ended up winning five
39:03
Speaker 2: of seven. They ended up winning twenty one out of
39:06
Speaker 2: thirty four to close out the year, and you finished
39:09
Speaker 2: eighty five and seventy seven, one game out of the playoffs,
39:13
Speaker 2: one game out of the playoffs. Do you think, maybe,
39:18
Speaker 2: just based purely on this team's not responding to that
39:22
Speaker 2: manager the way we want it to, let's make a change.
39:26
Speaker 2: Do you think maybe if they would have made that
39:29
Speaker 2: earlier then August twenty second, that this team would have
39:32
Speaker 2: had time to gel and make the playoffs that year. Yes,
39:37
Speaker 2: I don't want to wait too long. I don't want
39:39
Speaker 2: to wait too long. If he's the right guy, he's
39:40
Speaker 2: the right guy. If you're convinced he's the right guy,
39:42
Speaker 2: keep him. But if you're just standing on ceremony at
39:45
Speaker 2: this point, like I don't have the.
39:47
Speaker 1: Heart to do it, well, that's a terrible reason to
39:49
Speaker 1: keep anyone, right.
39:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't want to just keep waiting if
39:54
Speaker 2: he's if they're not responding to the message, and I
39:57
Speaker 2: know that they all like him, but they're not fighting
40:01
Speaker 2: for him. They're not playing the way you want to
40:05
Speaker 2: see them play under him, And so I don't want
40:10
Speaker 2: to get to August and then make this decision that's
40:13
Speaker 2: thirty games wasted where we could have started to pull
40:17
Speaker 2: away potentially. Do not underestimate a new voice and what
40:22
Speaker 2: it can do, because a lot of the times what
40:24
Speaker 2: it does to players, the players take it personally like
40:27
Speaker 2: we're responsible for that guy not being employed. He's the
40:31
Speaker 2: one that got fired, and yet it was our actions.
40:35
Speaker 2: It was our not playing well for him that caused
40:38
Speaker 2: him to get fired, because it wasn't anything he did.
40:41
Speaker 2: He's not like Dan's not problematic within the organization. He's
40:47
Speaker 2: not sleeping with the secretary. I mean, he's not going
40:49
Speaker 2: to do anything that's going to cause him to be
40:53
Speaker 2: fired other than are my players playing their best for me?
40:58
Speaker 6: And they're not. And so oh.
41:00
Speaker 2: Sometimes it just takes that message. We see it all
41:03
Speaker 2: the time in sports, especially in baseball, where Dan Wilson
41:08
Speaker 2: the message got changed. Dan Wilson, I don't think was
41:11
Speaker 2: a better manager than Scott Service, but the message changed
41:15
Speaker 2: at a time where the team needed to be needed
41:18
Speaker 2: some smelling salts underneath their nose. And what happened. They
41:23
Speaker 2: play such good baseball the rest of the way that
41:26
Speaker 2: they nearly overcame the deficiencies that they put out on
41:31
Speaker 2: the baseball field for three and a half four months,
41:35
Speaker 2: and they almost had time to make up for it
41:38
Speaker 2: and missed by a game. I don't want to do
41:39
Speaker 2: the same thing there, No thank you, yeah, all right?
41:42
Speaker 2: Coming up next, it is the World Cup today right
41:46
Speaker 2: here on KJAR And now as we get to the
41:50
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42:11
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42:13
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42:17
Speaker 2: us here today. We take you till ten o'clock before
42:20
Speaker 2: we hand things off to Greg Bell here at this
42:22
Speaker 2: radio station. And so Ashley Ryan, myself, Chuck Powell with
42:27
Speaker 2: you here in the eight o'clock hour and joining us
42:30
Speaker 2: now on the program. It's a bit of an annual tradition.
42:33
Speaker 2: He is the vice president of Amateur Scouting. He's coming
42:35
Speaker 2: off his big, big weekend where the MLB Draft was held.
42:40
Speaker 2: Scott Hunter joins us to tell us everything. He knows,
42:43
Speaker 2: all the dirt, all the secrets that went behind the
42:47
Speaker 2: scenes in the war room this weekend, and we're here
42:51
Speaker 2: for all of it. Scott, So thank you very much
42:53
Speaker 2: for spreading all of the information.
42:55
Speaker 5: That you have. Well, I appreciate you guys, thanks for
42:59
Speaker 5: having me again.
43:00
Speaker 2: So are you going to command?
43:03
Speaker 6: Yes, it is.
43:03
Speaker 5: Well, we'll see how this We'll see how this goes.
43:06
Speaker 2: You're not going to commit to giving all the nitty
43:08
Speaker 2: gritty details, is that what you're telling me?
43:11
Speaker 5: Well, I'm pretty good at being an open book. My
43:14
Speaker 5: my coworkers think, and a lot of people around the
43:17
Speaker 5: office but I'll give you what I can, all right.
43:19
Speaker 2: Well, looking forward to it. Well, I'm going to start
43:21
Speaker 2: with a compliment. I'm gonna butter you up to get
43:23
Speaker 2: us going, because you know, there are a few things
43:26
Speaker 2: in sports, especially like in baseball, like that when the
43:29
Speaker 2: Rays make a trade and nobody understands that, there's usually
43:33
Speaker 2: this reaction of well, raise just won the trade. They
43:36
Speaker 2: know what they're doing over there. And I think that
43:39
Speaker 2: same compliments being given to you and the Mariners organization
43:43
Speaker 2: when it comes to the draft, particularly when it comes
43:46
Speaker 2: to drafting starting pitching. Well, if the Mariners like him,
43:49
Speaker 2: he's probably really good. So not to embarrass you, but
43:54
Speaker 2: how good does it feel to have had that success
43:57
Speaker 2: and kind of earned that reputation at what it is
44:01
Speaker 2: you do, and that is conduct the draft here for
44:04
Speaker 2: the Mariners.
44:06
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's it's obviously a huge compliment and kind
44:09
Speaker 5: of humbling for me because, as we all know who
44:11
Speaker 5: are in sports, the game and especially baseball CA can
44:14
Speaker 5: be really humbling. So we try not to, especially myself
44:17
Speaker 5: and my staff I've been together almost ten years now.
44:20
Speaker 5: Most of us try not to get too happy with
44:22
Speaker 5: what we've done and just continue to look forward to
44:24
Speaker 5: keeping our standards high and to continue to do this
44:27
Speaker 5: same year after year. And you know, that's a great compliment.
44:31
Speaker 5: I do appreciate that. It is kind of fun a
44:33
Speaker 5: little bit, you know, where we started ten years ago,
44:35
Speaker 5: to see where we are now and to have a
44:37
Speaker 5: reputation when we talk to players and agents and come
44:40
Speaker 5: out of these meetings with kids before we pick them
44:42
Speaker 5: like people want to be Seattle Mariners. And that's a
44:45
Speaker 5: credit to our entire staff, from front office to analysts,
44:48
Speaker 5: to PD to all the scouts in the field. It's
44:51
Speaker 5: really a group effort that kind of makes me look smart.
44:54
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, I have to give
44:55
Speaker 5: all the credit to the group I work with.
44:57
Speaker 2: Give me a personal favorite. Give me one that you
45:00
Speaker 2: are particularly proud of, a pick that you've had with
45:03
Speaker 2: the Mariners that you feel you stole that guy from
45:06
Speaker 2: the rest of Major League Baseball. They were asleep and
45:09
Speaker 2: Scott Hunters saw it coming.
45:12
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if you ever see it coming.
45:14
Speaker 5: But you have a good feel about people some days,
45:16
Speaker 5: and I don't know, it's hard. He would be easy
45:19
Speaker 5: to say one of the guys on our big league
45:21
Speaker 5: team right now, Like you know, caw Raly was a
45:23
Speaker 5: third rounder. You know, no one really thought he'd do
45:25
Speaker 5: the things he has done in this game. I think,
45:28
Speaker 5: you know, I had a text message last night. An't
45:30
Speaker 5: even shared it with some of our guys in the
45:33
Speaker 5: in the field yet, but in the front office. But
45:35
Speaker 5: when the draft was forty rounds, we had to pick
45:38
Speaker 5: at the thirty third in the thirty third round, and
45:41
Speaker 5: his name was Penn Murphy and we had a you
45:43
Speaker 5: know five you know, he was a five year college guy.
45:46
Speaker 5: And I get a text yesterday, you know, right after
45:48
Speaker 5: all this draft stuff ends from from Penn, who haven't
45:50
Speaker 5: talked to in a while, thanking me for the opportunity
45:53
Speaker 5: with the Mariners. It doesn't go lost on him where
45:55
Speaker 5: it all started. And the fact that he was a
45:58
Speaker 5: thirty third rounder when the A's only twenty rounds right
46:01
Speaker 5: now is really you know, put.
46:03
Speaker 2: Things in perspective for him. And those are the moments that.
46:05
Speaker 5: You kind of live for. I mean, obviously, the guys
46:07
Speaker 5: are our big league team. I love them to death,
46:09
Speaker 5: and you know, it would be easy to say we
46:11
Speaker 5: knew Georgia is gonna be as good as he what
46:13
Speaker 5: is or or logan all those they're all in my
46:16
Speaker 5: you know, heart as favorites, but when you get moments
46:18
Speaker 5: like that with the kid like ten Murphy and seeing
46:20
Speaker 5: how the game has changed, those are kind of really
46:23
Speaker 5: rewarding because it's it's one scout in the field who
46:26
Speaker 5: believed in somebody that brought it to us in our room,
46:29
Speaker 5: and you know, we look through it and say, hey,
46:31
Speaker 5: why not give this kid a chance? And the next
46:33
Speaker 5: thing you know, he spent five six years in the
46:35
Speaker 5: big league. So those are special moments for all of us.
46:38
Speaker 2: That's great, that's great. Scott Hunter is with US vice
46:40
Speaker 2: President of Amateur Scouting. Our annual conversation is we recap
46:44
Speaker 2: their most recent draft held over the weekend starting on Saturday,
46:49
Speaker 2: and that's when you made your first round selection. Not
46:51
Speaker 2: a pitcher in the first round. You end up with
46:54
Speaker 2: a corner infield or third basement at Mississippi State. Ace
46:57
Speaker 2: Reese with the number twenty four pick. I think all
47:01
Speaker 2: the experts were surprised he lasted that long. Where the
47:03
Speaker 2: Mariners surprised to have had the opportunity to draft Ace Reese.
47:09
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we went into this draft and you know,
47:12
Speaker 5: from what everybody probably has seen or read prior to
47:15
Speaker 5: it was kind of a unique year in regards that
47:17
Speaker 5: there wasn't a lot of separation at the top of
47:19
Speaker 5: the draft. I think the first three picks were exactly
47:21
Speaker 5: the first three picks everybody in the country thought was
47:24
Speaker 5: going to happen. And then things, you know, started to
47:27
Speaker 5: getting a little i don't want to say monkey, but
47:29
Speaker 5: all over the map. So as a group that was
47:31
Speaker 5: going to our rooms to say, let's build out a
47:33
Speaker 5: board to the best of our ability, stay true to
47:35
Speaker 5: our values as an organization, and then we usually line
47:39
Speaker 5: up a good pocket of players, like ten or eleven guys.
47:41
Speaker 5: This year, sometimes it's more, sometimes it's less, depending on
47:44
Speaker 5: where we pick, and we've lined up about ten or
47:46
Speaker 5: eleven guys that we said, if one of these guys
47:48
Speaker 5: are there, we should just take them. And with Reese
47:51
Speaker 5: was in that in that field of eleven or twelve
47:54
Speaker 5: that we we didn't really even think he was going
47:56
Speaker 5: to get to us. And as the draft progresses, we
47:58
Speaker 5: see all these names going on the board and we're
48:00
Speaker 5: preparing for our you know, contingency plans, and then you
48:03
Speaker 5: just saw Reese just kept slipping. So we made some
48:06
Speaker 5: phone calls. We've had to talk to the room and
48:08
Speaker 5: we stayed with a plan that if one of those
48:09
Speaker 5: guys got to us, we would take him, and Ace
48:12
Speaker 5: Ace was a guy, So it's you know, sometimes it's
48:14
Speaker 5: better to be lucky than good to get the value
48:17
Speaker 5: in the draft of a kid that's supposed to go
48:19
Speaker 5: higher and that that slips to you. And I think
48:22
Speaker 5: hopefully it turns out to be the same situation as
48:24
Speaker 5: Logan Gilbert. We thought Logan Gilbert was going to go
48:26
Speaker 5: in the top five picks of that draft in twenty eighteen,
48:29
Speaker 5: and he's sitting there for us at fourteen. So hopefully
48:32
Speaker 5: history repeats itself and it turns out to be just
48:34
Speaker 5: as good.
48:34
Speaker 2: Well, when you hear Ace Reese described, power is the
48:39
Speaker 2: first thing that comes to the lips of anyone analyzing him.
48:43
Speaker 2: So give us your full breakdown of what kind of
48:47
Speaker 2: player that you took in Ace Reese. Yeah, I think
48:51
Speaker 2: you know, power leads it.
48:52
Speaker 5: I mean, just obviously what he's done Atsissippi straight over
48:55
Speaker 5: the last two years.
48:55
Speaker 2: But I mean he's a hitter as well.
48:57
Speaker 5: I mean, when you break it down when we were
48:59
Speaker 5: going through him, of our cross checkers just you know,
49:01
Speaker 5: raises his hand. Jesse Capellish and Mark Loonis were the
49:04
Speaker 5: two of them that said, hey, just I'll say he's
49:06
Speaker 5: a power guy. I mean, this guy was hit left.
49:08
Speaker 5: He's in the SEC better than he hit right handers,
49:11
Speaker 5: and he does a lot of damage. I mean he's
49:13
Speaker 5: done it for three years. He was at the University
49:15
Speaker 5: of Houston coming out of high school as a freshman, transfers.
49:18
Speaker 2: To Mississippi State and has just been a force in
49:20
Speaker 2: the SEC.
49:21
Speaker 5: And you know, for those that don't really you know,
49:23
Speaker 5: watch a ton of college baseball, the SEC right now
49:26
Speaker 5: is kind of a different animal than any other college
49:29
Speaker 5: league in the country because of the talent, Like these
49:33
Speaker 5: kids are seeing their midweek you know, competition, They're still
49:35
Speaker 5: seeing kids coming out of the bullpens and starters faring
49:38
Speaker 5: ninety six, ninety seven there Friday, Saturday, Sunday guys or
49:41
Speaker 5: sometimes you know, you don't see a pitch under ninety
49:43
Speaker 5: five and everybody's got really wicked break in balls. It's
49:46
Speaker 5: really an advanced league right now. How things have happened
49:49
Speaker 5: in that league with the nil money and transfer portal.
49:52
Speaker 5: So when someone of the aces caliber you look, you
49:55
Speaker 5: look up and you see what he's done. There's it's
49:58
Speaker 5: a little more impressive than just doing it that, you know,
50:02
Speaker 5: making them no disrespect to the mid majors, but it's
50:04
Speaker 5: just the competition level is so high at that level.
50:07
Speaker 5: It shows what kind of person and character as to
50:09
Speaker 5: be able to stay with it and not really go
50:11
Speaker 5: through too many ups and downs. He just does damage consistently.
50:15
Speaker 2: Is he a third basement? Is that what you drafted
50:17
Speaker 2: him to be or is that an evolving positional decision
50:21
Speaker 2: that the organization will make over the years.
50:24
Speaker 5: Now, we drafted him as a third basement, and it's
50:26
Speaker 5: probably an evolving position more so for him. And he
50:29
Speaker 5: got a little chip on his shoulder because people, you know,
50:31
Speaker 5: question his defense. And when I talked to him the
50:33
Speaker 5: other day, he just said, I'm a third base and
50:34
Speaker 5: I'm going to work at it like he's got the
50:36
Speaker 5: hands in the arm to do it. He didn't, you know,
50:38
Speaker 5: have some injuries prior to the season.
50:41
Speaker 6: That set them back.
50:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, like a lower leg injury. Believe it was a foot.
50:44
Speaker 5: So he didn't really get off to a great start defensively.
50:47
Speaker 5: But he's played first base, he's run around left field
50:49
Speaker 5: and right field. But he wants to be a third
50:51
Speaker 5: base and we want him to be a third baseman,
50:53
Speaker 5: and we do believe he.
50:54
Speaker 2: Can be because he's motivated to do that.
50:56
Speaker 5: And as we sit in that draft room, we always
50:58
Speaker 5: talk a lot about character and kids and who they
51:01
Speaker 5: are as people and what the game means to them.
51:03
Speaker 5: And he's one of those kids that's driven to get better.
51:06
Speaker 5: And I am a true believer that defense is one
51:08
Speaker 5: of the things if you have the work ethic to
51:10
Speaker 5: do it, you can get better at it. And his
51:13
Speaker 5: basket obviously Karen r carry him, but playing on the
51:15
Speaker 5: dirt at third would be an added bonus.
51:18
Speaker 2: How far away do you think that he is? And
51:20
Speaker 2: I know you're going to give me a conservative estimate,
51:22
Speaker 2: but I know that listeners, that's one question they always
51:25
Speaker 2: have with first round draft picks. I mean, how far
51:27
Speaker 2: away are we looking before Ace Reese will be major
51:30
Speaker 2: league ready?
51:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody's timeline is obviously a little different, and you know,
51:35
Speaker 5: everybody's passed a little different. But if history repeats itself,
51:39
Speaker 5: I mean, some of these kids that have performed as
51:41
Speaker 5: well if he have has over the last couple of
51:43
Speaker 5: years in the SEC, they usually move pretty quick because
51:47
Speaker 5: they're a little more ready for the pro lifestyle and
51:49
Speaker 5: the you know, the stuff that they're going to be seeing.
51:52
Speaker 5: So I mean, I would like to you know, three years,
51:55
Speaker 5: but I wouldn't shock me if it was sooner. And
51:57
Speaker 5: I mean all depends on you know, I'll get his development,
52:00
Speaker 5: and you know, those are usually the timetables for you know,
52:03
Speaker 5: all of our college kids that have gotten to the
52:04
Speaker 5: big leagues fairly quick, it's usually in that two to
52:06
Speaker 5: three year reign. So I would hope that we could
52:09
Speaker 5: fit that with a ace as well.
52:11
Speaker 2: Scott Hunter is with US vice president of Amateur Scouting
52:14
Speaker 2: for the Mariners, the man of the draft that they've
52:18
Speaker 2: been so successful here in the last few years drafting
52:22
Speaker 2: the Seattle Mariners. And I'm not going to go through
52:24
Speaker 2: all the picks obviously, but I think we should go
52:25
Speaker 2: through at least one more. Jake Brown your second rounder.
52:29
Speaker 2: What drew you to Jake Brown?
52:33
Speaker 5: Well, Jake is an interesting one. I don't know if
52:35
Speaker 5: you guys heard. He was roommates with Chase or Kate
52:38
Speaker 5: Anderson at the LSU. So it didn't hurt that that
52:41
Speaker 5: we knew him a little bit and that Cad Anderson,
52:43
Speaker 5: you know, kind of vouched for him. But that's not
52:46
Speaker 5: that's not the reason we took him obviously. It was
52:48
Speaker 5: just obviously a fun story. But Jake was a two
52:51
Speaker 5: way guy going in LSU kind of kind of like
52:54
Speaker 5: we found out, you know, according to Jake, Cad was
52:57
Speaker 5: a really maybe a better hitter than pitcher. So I
52:59
Speaker 5: don't know if if that's accurate, but Shuret sounds is
53:01
Speaker 5: like a good, pretty good legend that he was like
53:03
Speaker 5: Roy Hobbs coming out of high school.
53:05
Speaker 8: Wow.
53:05
Speaker 5: So Jake told us about that. Yeah, Jake told us that.
53:08
Speaker 5: And Jake's got kind of a similar story. Went to campus,
53:11
Speaker 5: you know, as a pitcher to start, and then you know,
53:13
Speaker 5: it was a two way guy and obviously gravitated towards
53:16
Speaker 5: playing the outfield. And he's really, come on, he's a
53:19
Speaker 5: guy that we believe is extremely athletic. He's played right
53:22
Speaker 5: field for LSU, but do believe he could play center
53:24
Speaker 5: because unfortunately for Jake, they had a center fielder at
53:27
Speaker 5: the LSU that went you know, I think sixth over
53:29
Speaker 5: all in the country, so he didn't get any time
53:31
Speaker 5: in center. But he's a left handed hitter with you know,
53:34
Speaker 5: eighty eighty speed, which was kind of shocked us because
53:37
Speaker 5: our scouting reports started in season had him as a
53:39
Speaker 5: plus runner, and then he goes to the combine and
53:41
Speaker 5: runs one of the fastest combine times of all time.
53:44
Speaker 5: So we're getting a tools he kids who's you know,
53:46
Speaker 5: obviously from a major program, but has a little more
53:49
Speaker 5: projection left in and than most kids coming out of college.
53:53
Speaker 5: And to say he is a character first guy. Our
53:56
Speaker 5: meeting with him at the combine really through, you know,
53:59
Speaker 5: took us for you know, a loop there because he
54:01
Speaker 5: was such a leader, you know, the conversation, the back
54:04
Speaker 5: and forth, what his values were all lined up and
54:07
Speaker 5: with how we believe you know, Mariner draft should should be.
54:11
Speaker 5: And that's probably the most exciting part about Jake is
54:14
Speaker 5: just the human being we're getting as well.
54:15
Speaker 2: Are you telling me that Kate Anderson can pitch, hit
54:18
Speaker 2: and scout? Is that what you're telling me? That's like,
54:20
Speaker 2: that's like one more than has.
54:24
Speaker 5: It's kind of like the legend is growing. So I
54:26
Speaker 5: don't want to put too much, you know, Partiro and Kave,
54:29
Speaker 5: but the stories these guys were were talking about, how
54:31
Speaker 5: is you know he was a better hitter and pitcher.
54:33
Speaker 5: I was kind of calm bs on him, but I
54:36
Speaker 5: keep hearing it and it is funny. I did you
54:38
Speaker 5: know text Kate and said, man, is this guy for real? Like,
54:41
Speaker 5: tell me it's this guy?
54:42
Speaker 6: You know.
54:42
Speaker 5: He had a good interview with us, And all Kate
54:45
Speaker 5: said was if you want a good player, that's one thing,
54:47
Speaker 5: but you will only even better person. You shouldn't do
54:49
Speaker 5: the smart thing. And when we drafted on he texted
54:52
Speaker 5: and he said, man, you guys are really smart up there.
54:54
Speaker 2: So we're feeling pretty good about that. Thick Scott Hunter
54:57
Speaker 2: with us here on chucking Buck. All right. So again,
55:00
Speaker 2: not gonna go pick by pick through all of this,
55:03
Speaker 2: but I do find it interesting. I mean, two hitters,
55:06
Speaker 2: two offensive players to get your draft started, and and
55:10
Speaker 2: it really was an offensive leaning draft, or at least
55:13
Speaker 2: positional player I should say leaning draft for you, which
55:17
Speaker 2: kind of belies your reputation of you know, you know,
55:19
Speaker 2: nailing pitchers and they and the draft.
55:22
Speaker 1: So was it an.
55:24
Speaker 2: Intentional to try to stack up positional players or is
55:28
Speaker 2: it just the way that the board fell this year?
55:31
Speaker 5: I think it wasn't really intentional, just really what the
55:34
Speaker 5: draft gave us. I mean, you know, there's a lot
55:36
Speaker 5: of hitters up top that we did like that went
55:38
Speaker 5: off the board. We tried to make some moves, even
55:40
Speaker 5: with a couple of high school kids that didn't work out,
55:42
Speaker 5: and with our bonus pool this year, we didn't have
55:44
Speaker 5: as much as we did last year, and we had
55:46
Speaker 5: to you know, just a very We didn't have any
55:47
Speaker 5: extra picks. So once it got to a point in
55:49
Speaker 5: the draft, we just played it straight. And then when
55:51
Speaker 5: you look up at the board, I think, you know,
55:53
Speaker 5: I think Nathan Taylor from Cincinnati. We took his, you know,
55:55
Speaker 5: because he was one of the few starting pitchers we
55:57
Speaker 5: felt were real true starting pitchers that were still that's
56:00
Speaker 5: on the board. And then it kind of just worked
56:02
Speaker 5: out the way that Okay, it turned out to be
56:04
Speaker 5: a college heavy draft with mostly hitters, and I don't
56:07
Speaker 5: think that's a bad thing for us right now because
56:09
Speaker 5: we've done such a good job with pitching and over
56:11
Speaker 5: the years we've gotten our high school hitters going, you know,
56:14
Speaker 5: and with you know, Colet and Cole like having some
56:18
Speaker 5: some some college baths in our system right now and
56:21
Speaker 5: in all levels of our organization is going to continue
56:24
Speaker 5: to build our group to be foundationally strong, if that
56:27
Speaker 5: makes sense.
56:28
Speaker 2: A big question, big picture question for you as somebody
56:32
Speaker 2: that's uh, you know, Scouts College high school, has your
56:36
Speaker 2: scouting team that you've done a draft a certain way
56:38
Speaker 2: for a long time, and now all of a sudden,
56:41
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball is threatening that high school players aren't
56:43
Speaker 2: going to be eligible right out of high school to
56:46
Speaker 2: to enter the draft. What would be Scott Hunter's thoughts
56:49
Speaker 2: on that possibility.
56:52
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a high school draft myself, so I
56:55
Speaker 5: you know that that sticks sticks a little bit. I
56:57
Speaker 5: don't know if you know if it would be good
56:59
Speaker 5: or bad for the game. I do know that whatever
57:02
Speaker 5: does happen, we obviously always adjust. I mean, it's it
57:05
Speaker 5: would be interesting to see if that did. But if
57:07
Speaker 5: they went to a role where you know, you have
57:09
Speaker 5: one and done in college, how would that change scouting?
57:12
Speaker 5: If kids were eligible every year in four year colleges.
57:15
Speaker 5: So I don't know if I you know, I'm an
57:17
Speaker 5: expert on anything in regards to how that should be.
57:19
Speaker 5: But I do know as a group, as a scouting group,
57:22
Speaker 5: we will adjust and find the best way to get
57:25
Speaker 5: the best players. And I think the hardest part of
57:27
Speaker 5: this has been adjusting how college baseball is right now
57:30
Speaker 5: with the you know, the dr the nil money, the portal,
57:34
Speaker 5: the you know, kids are at three schools in three
57:36
Speaker 5: years Like those are the things that we've adapted to,
57:39
Speaker 5: and I think we've done a really good job of it.
57:41
Speaker 5: So if there's another change with the draft, I think
57:43
Speaker 5: we'll be just as prepared.
57:44
Speaker 2: Well. I could just speak from being in high school,
57:47
Speaker 2: and whenever you would get a scout at your game,
57:50
Speaker 2: you would be just like, oh man, what it did
57:52
Speaker 2: to elevate you. Now, even if it was just like
57:54
Speaker 2: a Division two college scout that came here, I would
57:58
Speaker 2: hate for high school players to not have the experience
58:00
Speaker 2: of all the whispers, Hey, somebody from the Mariners is
58:04
Speaker 2: here to watch you. That was a great experience for
58:07
Speaker 2: me when I.
58:07
Speaker 5: Was at that age, oh for me, for me as well,
58:11
Speaker 5: and I think it's for every kid that plays the games.
58:13
Speaker 3: It gives you.
58:14
Speaker 5: Even my own sons, you know, you know, one's playing
58:16
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl now, the other ones in college. That's a
58:19
Speaker 5: that's their dream, that's their goal. So whenever you know
58:21
Speaker 5: anybody that comes to a game, let alone a pro
58:23
Speaker 5: scout like these college guys too, it's come so intense
58:26
Speaker 5: for kids these days. I don't know how they handle it,
58:29
Speaker 5: but it's definitely a lot different than when I when
58:31
Speaker 5: I went through it for sure.
58:32
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, man, Well, thank you very much. I'm
58:35
Speaker 2: sure great job as always, and we always look forward
58:39
Speaker 2: to this conversation with you, and I'm sure there's more
58:42
Speaker 2: to discuss, but we'll save it for another time.
58:46
Speaker 5: Awesome. I appreciate you guys, Thanks for having me as always.
58:49
Speaker 2: All right, Scott Onner joining us right here on Chuck
58:51
Speaker 2: and Buck in the morning, Vice president of amateur scouting
58:54
Speaker 2: for the Mariners. The MLB Draft held this past weekend,
58:58
Speaker 2: and once again Marenders got pretty good grades. A lot
59:02
Speaker 2: of people believe that Ace Reese was a steal for
59:05
Speaker 2: them at number twenty four in the draft out of
59:08
Speaker 2: Mississippi State. I think Jim Kallis during the coverage when
59:11
Speaker 2: as far as saying he is the best power hitting
59:14
Speaker 2: prospect in the entire draft. And so to walk away
59:18
Speaker 2: from a draft and have somebody with that kind of power,
59:22
Speaker 2: sixty power grade out of eighty, not bad to slip
59:26
Speaker 2: to you at number twenty four, And it sounds like,
59:29
Speaker 2: and I'm reading into it a little bit, it was
59:31
Speaker 2: one of those run to the podium kind of moments. Yeah,
59:34
Speaker 2: like this is too good to be true. We didn't
59:36
Speaker 2: spend any time in our war room, wavering over one
59:39
Speaker 2: player or the other. When we saw Ace Reese was
59:42
Speaker 2: still on the board, we ran the ticket up to
59:45
Speaker 2: the podium to make sure that we grabbed the Mississippi
59:48
Speaker 2: State corner infielder.
59:50
Speaker 1: I'm excited for him, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And.
59:52
Speaker 2: You never know. I mean, it's a big leap to
59:54
Speaker 2: go from amateur to a professional Major leaguer. Now, that
59:58
Speaker 2: big a leap to go from amateur to profession, but
1:00:01
Speaker 2: amateur to major leaguer, that is a big leap. And
1:00:04
Speaker 2: they always don't work out and they got to learn
1:00:06
Speaker 2: how to hit with a wooden bat, which don't underestimate that.
1:00:11
Speaker 2: I was there personally. I worked for the Oneana Yankees
1:00:14
Speaker 2: one summer and it was that that league, the New
1:00:20
Speaker 2: York Penn League. It was the draft picks, the most
1:00:23
Speaker 2: recent draft picks, the college guys. That's where they played.
1:00:27
Speaker 2: It was a short season. It was right after their
1:00:29
Speaker 2: college seasons had come to a close, and so there
1:00:34
Speaker 2: was a third round pick by the name of Mark Hubbard,
1:00:36
Speaker 2: and they're like, wait till you see this guy play.
1:00:39
Speaker 2: You know, all the coaches like, wait, do you see
1:00:42
Speaker 2: this guy take around a batting practice? So I made
1:00:46
Speaker 2: sure that. I was out there on the field to
1:00:48
Speaker 2: watch Mark Hubbard take batting practice, lefty six' three, Lean i'm, like,
1:00:52
Speaker 2: well he's pretty. Skinny it doesn't mean it doesn't have some.
1:00:54
Speaker 2: Pop let's see how this. Goes and he just hit
1:00:57
Speaker 2: one fly ball after another to the, track because one
1:01:01
Speaker 2: after the, other like like five feet short of the warning.
1:01:05
Speaker 2: Track And i'm, LIKE i was expecting, more YECAUSE i
1:01:08
Speaker 2: was a smartass even. THEN i was expecting to see.
1:01:12
Speaker 2: More and you know that never did come, around like
1:01:16
Speaker 2: he without that aluminum, boost that aluminum bat boost did
1:01:20
Speaker 2: not have the power to play in the major leagues
1:01:24
Speaker 2: and never did develop, it and so he was sort
1:01:27
Speaker 2: of a flash in the, pan third round selection for
1:01:30
Speaker 2: The yankees back in the. Day all, right, well we
1:01:33
Speaker 2: appreciate our conversation the time With Scott. Hunter always enjoy.
1:01:36
Speaker 2: It coming up, next, though we are less than two
1:01:39
Speaker 2: weeks away from training camp getting started for everyone in
1:01:43
Speaker 2: The National Football, league including The world, champs and yet
1:01:47
Speaker 2: it's rank, season its list, season and there's one guy
1:01:51
Speaker 2: that's going to be really happy about how he's been
1:01:54
Speaker 2: ranked on this particular, List and then we're left, wondering
1:01:58
Speaker 2: why is this guy not ranked. Tire we'll talk about that.
1:02:01
Speaker 2: Next Sports radio ninety three point three kJ r F. M,
1:02:25
Speaker 2: hey what on, people It's chuck And ashley with you
1:02:28
Speaker 2: here on This tuesday, morning chalking back in the. Morning
1:02:31
Speaker 2: Sports radio ninety three point three k j r F. M,
1:02:35
Speaker 2: yeah great to have you with us here on this.
1:02:38
Speaker 2: Day you know that're not that far away from training camp,
1:02:40
Speaker 2: starting which seems impossible it. Does we haven't even had
1:02:43
Speaker 2: like a really a warm weather. Day we have that
1:02:45
Speaker 2: one like ninety degree, day And i'm wondering if it's
1:02:48
Speaker 2: waiting for us for training. CAMP i mean sometimes training
1:02:52
Speaker 2: camp starts with, like you, know you're a little, overheated
1:02:57
Speaker 2: and the early morning is and you want to be,
1:03:00
Speaker 2: there that's. Right and then by the end of training.
1:03:02
Speaker 2: Camp Dick thane used to wear like a big giant
1:03:06
Speaker 2: like tundra. Outfit, yeah, yeah and he could barely see
1:03:11
Speaker 2: out of this cir cool you, know a big furry
1:03:15
Speaker 2: hooded mammoth. Coat, yeah you know kind of thing that
1:03:20
Speaker 2: he would. Wear bucky AND i usually have to put
1:03:23
Speaker 2: on a light. Jacket oh it's. Harsh it's a little,
1:03:27
Speaker 2: different but, yeah that's the. Extreme but we haven't even
1:03:32
Speaker 2: had the warm weather and maybe it's going to arrive
1:03:34
Speaker 2: right in time for training.
1:03:35
Speaker 3: CAMP i don't, know, maybe but we did have that cooler,
1:03:38
Speaker 3: weather and all of a, SUDDEN i found myself, thinking,
1:03:40
Speaker 3: well that's like a fall.
1:03:40
Speaker 1: Day and THEN i was, like, ooh falls right around the.
1:03:43
Speaker 3: Corner and this was Like june twenty, fifth four days
1:03:46
Speaker 3: after summer officially. STARTED i was, like all, Right i'm
1:03:48
Speaker 3: ready for. Fall that's, Fine, yeah we can do.
1:03:50
Speaker 2: This i'm ready for. Fall we can just go straight
1:03:52
Speaker 2: from spring to, fall the best. Season we can go
1:03:54
Speaker 2: from seventy four and the flowers are blooming to seventy
1:03:58
Speaker 2: four and the flowers are. Dying.
1:03:59
Speaker 1: Yeah it sounds like heaven.
1:04:03
Speaker 2: And changing beautiful colors along the. Way. Yep all, right
1:04:07
Speaker 2: well let's, uh let's talk a little bit about THE
1:04:10
Speaker 2: nfl because we are just two weeks away from training
1:04:13
Speaker 2: camp getting, underway and so for the next two, weeks
1:04:15
Speaker 2: all these lists are gonna start coming out and people
1:04:17
Speaker 2: are gonna start ranking, things and we're gonna start you,
1:04:20
Speaker 2: know we're gonna things like buy, Magazines college football.
1:04:24
Speaker 1: Magazine that's when it gets real.
1:04:25
Speaker 2: Exciting, yeah, yeah, exactly and we're gonna start doing things
1:04:30
Speaker 2: that remind us of football and start getting us jacked for,
1:04:33
Speaker 2: Football and so they do this on. PURPOSE a lot
1:04:35
Speaker 2: of these list makers and rankers they really cannot stand
1:04:39
Speaker 2: not being paid attention.
1:04:40
Speaker 6: To so.
1:04:43
Speaker 2: This is really an interesting one because this one you
1:04:47
Speaker 2: really can't put some stock.
1:04:48
Speaker 9: In you just.
1:04:49
Speaker 2: CAN'T i don't think you can put stock in THE
1:04:51
Speaker 2: nfl Dot COM's player, rankings the ones done by the,
1:04:54
Speaker 2: PLAYERS i don't think you can do. That but ALSO
1:04:59
Speaker 2: u you, know but but and then there's THE Nfl
1:05:03
Speaker 2: executives list that they've come out with the. Quarterbacks but this,
1:05:06
Speaker 2: one obviously we probably shouldn't put any merit. Into and
1:05:10
Speaker 2: yet the players Do madden.
1:05:13
Speaker 1: Rankings, yeah they really do.
1:05:15
Speaker 2: All they live and die by it. All they do
1:05:18
Speaker 2: not like getting insulted by The madden, rankings there's no
1:05:21
Speaker 2: question about. It but one guy that has no risk
1:05:24
Speaker 2: of being insulted By madden rankings on our team this
1:05:27
Speaker 2: year Is Jackson smith And. Jigba he got one of
1:05:33
Speaker 2: six ninety nine's the highest grade that you can, get
1:05:37
Speaker 2: a ninety Nine madden. Rating it looks like for this
1:05:41
Speaker 2: upcoming year for our GUY jsn and well.
1:05:43
Speaker 1: DESERVED i think actually you said there's.
1:05:46
Speaker 9: Six.
1:05:46
Speaker 3: Yeah IF i had to come up with six people to,
1:05:49
Speaker 3: give he'd be absolutely one of.
1:05:50
Speaker 1: Them IF i had to give, two he'd be one of.
1:05:52
Speaker 2: THEM i actually Quizzed ashley on this yesterday and she
1:05:55
Speaker 2: got five without even. Blinking she just rattled them, off
1:05:58
Speaker 2: five for. Five Miles, Garrett, Yeah Miles, Garrett Matt, Stafford
1:06:04
Speaker 2: Josh allen was a ninety. Nine Lamar chase was a ninety.
1:06:08
Speaker 2: Nine she didn't get the last, one AND i don't blame.
1:06:11
Speaker 2: Her gray McBride got a ninety. Nine ray McBride of
1:06:17
Speaker 2: The Arizona. Cardinal he's really, good BUT i didn't know
1:06:19
Speaker 2: he was ninety.
1:06:20
Speaker 1: NINE i didn't, either although he's really been great on
1:06:22
Speaker 1: my fantasy.
1:06:22
Speaker 2: Team he really. Has, yeah he is a monster to go.
1:06:26
Speaker 2: Against never like facing that, Guy so maybe he is
1:06:30
Speaker 2: worthy of a ninety. Nine so those were the that's
1:06:34
Speaker 2: the good news from The madden. Rankings, however WHAT i
1:06:38
Speaker 2: saw was a little cheat sheet and it had the
1:06:41
Speaker 2: top one hundred players ranked in The madden, rankings and
1:06:46
Speaker 2: One Sam darnold did not make the top one, hundred
1:06:50
Speaker 2: so ninety nine to eighty. Nine So Sam donald is
1:06:55
Speaker 2: not considered a top one hundred player by The madden.
1:06:58
Speaker 2: Rankings so THEN i went over TO nfl dot com
1:07:01
Speaker 2: And i'm, like, well what do the players think of?
1:07:03
Speaker 2: Him because they they're slowly revealing, theirs like a half
1:07:06
Speaker 2: a player a. Day uh to really, yeah they're like
1:07:09
Speaker 2: really trying to get the juice out of this. THING
1:07:12
Speaker 2: i think they revealed what, sixty sixty eight and sixty seven, Yesterday,
1:07:17
Speaker 2: okay and so they're one hundred through sixty seven and
1:07:22
Speaker 2: No Sam darnold. Yet now maybe he's.
1:07:25
Speaker 1: Higher, YEAH i was gonna, say maybe he's.
1:07:26
Speaker 2: Higher maybe he's higher than sixty. Seven being the quarterback
1:07:29
Speaker 2: of A Super bowl champion tends to get you with some.
1:07:31
Speaker 2: Attention and those, players, man they'll think high of the
1:07:35
Speaker 2: of you one, day but you have one off season
1:07:37
Speaker 2: they'll drop. You Like Lamar jackson went from two to
1:07:39
Speaker 2: sixty seven or something like. That people are angry in one,
1:07:43
Speaker 2: year one year of him not Performing Lamar, jackson like
1:07:48
Speaker 2: he dropped like sixty seven spots in the. Rankings so
1:07:51
Speaker 2: maybe they've Jumped sam way up into the. Rankings BUT
1:07:56
Speaker 2: i guess this is my long way of, saying we're
1:07:59
Speaker 2: gonna nothing's gonna. Change, apparently About Sam donald as The seahawks,
1:08:05
Speaker 2: quarterback and maybe that's a good. Thing it sounds like
1:08:08
Speaker 2: the same old. DOUBTERS i, mean he's gonna move up
1:08:10
Speaker 2: on all of these, lists it's gonna move. Up but
1:08:14
Speaker 2: THE nfl quarterback, list he's not a top ten. QUARTERBACK
1:08:18
Speaker 2: nfl players list doesn't look like he's gonna make the
1:08:20
Speaker 2: top one. Hundred maybe we'll be surprised The madden, rankings
1:08:24
Speaker 2: not considered a top one hundred. Player i'm perfectly okay with.
1:08:29
Speaker 2: This i'm perfectly okay with him continuing to fly under
1:08:32
Speaker 2: the radar and people sleeping On Sam. Donald not THAT
1:08:36
Speaker 2: i think teams will be sleeping On Sam, donald but
1:08:39
Speaker 2: it's very clear despite all the doubters and an entire
1:08:43
Speaker 2: year of, well yeah he's got to do. This, okay
1:08:46
Speaker 2: well he did, that but now he's got to do, this.
1:08:50
Speaker 6: And now he's got to do, this and.
1:08:52
Speaker 2: Now he's done everything that you. Want you didn't think
1:08:55
Speaker 2: he could do a year, ago all the, doubters and
1:08:58
Speaker 2: yet they still. Remain, well now he's got to do
1:08:59
Speaker 2: it two years before we're convinced that he's a top
1:09:03
Speaker 2: ten quarterback in The National Football. League LIKE i, said personally,
1:09:07
Speaker 2: fine sleep on, him go, Ahead BUT i think last
1:09:13
Speaker 2: year he certainly proved all of his doubters. Wrong AND
1:09:16
Speaker 2: i still think actually he's got a lot of. Ceiling
1:09:18
Speaker 2: as we talked about With Hugh millen in the one,
1:09:20
Speaker 2: SERIES i think he's still got a long way to.
1:09:23
Speaker 2: IMPROVE i mean that arm, strength that, composure that aggressiveness
1:09:28
Speaker 2: without being. CARELESS i Think Sam donald still got a
1:09:32
Speaker 2: lot more ceiling that he can hit before his development's done.
1:09:35
Speaker 3: Well and plus just building on his relationship with his receivers.
1:09:39
Speaker 3: TOO i, MEAN i it IS i DON'T i don't
1:09:42
Speaker 3: mind that people underestimate him or don't think that he's up,
1:09:46
Speaker 3: there but it is annoying when they keep.
1:09:48
Speaker 1: Questioning that's the PART i don't.
1:09:49
Speaker 3: Like if you're gonna just underestimate him and not talk
1:09:51
Speaker 3: about him and not think that he's deserving of certain.
1:09:53
Speaker 1: RANKINGS i don't Think Sam donald's losing any sleep about.
1:09:56
Speaker 2: It, No but which is the best part of?
1:09:58
Speaker 3: That that's the best, Part, Yeah but it annoys me
1:10:00
Speaker 3: when they continue will continuously question, him like last year
1:10:04
Speaker 3: it was but can he win the big? Game well he,
1:10:06
Speaker 3: can he did what a couple of, them but nobody
1:10:09
Speaker 3: came back and was, Like, okay yeah he did win
1:10:11
Speaker 3: the big.
1:10:11
Speaker 1: Game good for. Him it was, like they're just silent about.
1:10:14
Speaker 2: It, WELL i think a lot of people defend their own,
1:10:17
Speaker 2: opinions and so we IF i move off of, THAT
1:10:20
Speaker 2: i got to give this another couple of years because
1:10:22
Speaker 2: maybe he'll prove THAT i was right. Right if he
1:10:25
Speaker 2: stumbles next, year Then i'll never have to admit THAT
1:10:29
Speaker 2: i was. Wrong as a matter of, FACT i can
1:10:30
Speaker 2: double down ON i was always, right yeah About Sam.
1:10:33
Speaker 2: Darnold SO i think a lot of it comes from that.
1:10:37
Speaker 2: Place but what you said About sam, PERSONALLY i think
1:10:42
Speaker 2: it bothers a lot of. PLAYERS i, MEAN i Guess
1:10:47
Speaker 2: i'll tell the tale out of. School Cliff april used
1:10:50
Speaker 2: to mock THE nfl rankings when he was on our,
1:10:53
Speaker 2: staff THE nfl Dot com rankings because that the players
1:10:56
Speaker 2: did and it was like, twofold like number. ONE i
1:11:00
Speaker 2: don't even participate in. It But i'm also angry THAT
1:11:03
Speaker 2: i was never on. It but, well if you would fully,
1:11:06
Speaker 2: participate then maybe we would get a better idea of
1:11:10
Speaker 2: what who the players think are the top one hundred.
1:11:13
Speaker 2: Players so you can't not participate and then think that
1:11:19
Speaker 2: you've been, offended.
1:11:20
Speaker 3: Right because there's a lot of people Like cliff that
1:11:22
Speaker 3: are doing the same thing exactly.
1:11:24
Speaker 2: And they are easily offended what they do now to
1:11:28
Speaker 2: seek out a chip on their. SHOULDER i mean it
1:11:32
Speaker 2: is mind blowing to, me especially a group of people
1:11:36
Speaker 2: that have been pampered and told how wonderful they are
1:11:39
Speaker 2: pretty much their entire, lives how they still need to
1:11:43
Speaker 2: find disrespect in the corners of the couch cushions in
1:11:47
Speaker 2: order to motivate them for the next. SEASON i don't
1:11:50
Speaker 2: Think Sam donald's motivated by that stuff at. ALL i
1:11:53
Speaker 2: don't think that HE i don't think that when he
1:11:56
Speaker 2: gets complimented it goes to his. HEAD i don't think
1:11:59
Speaker 2: when he gets criticized that it bothers him in the.
1:12:01
Speaker 2: SLIGHTEST i Think Sam donald is one of the most
1:12:04
Speaker 2: in my. LANE i can control WHAT i can control
1:12:08
Speaker 2: kind of athletes That i've ever come. Across SO i
1:12:11
Speaker 2: don't think the new dose of disrespect if that's what
1:12:15
Speaker 2: we're in store, for a second wave of disrespect For
1:12:19
Speaker 2: Sam donald is The seahawks, quarterback even if it's, coming
1:12:22
Speaker 2: even if it's getting ready to crash on the, SHORES
1:12:23
Speaker 2: i don't think he's going to get wet from. IT
1:12:26
Speaker 2: i think he's going to come out, dry AND i
1:12:27
Speaker 2: Think sam's going to Be. SAM i loved What hugh
1:12:30
Speaker 2: said about him in our one series where he's, like
1:12:34
Speaker 2: do you realize how rare the combination is of a
1:12:37
Speaker 2: player with no ego who plays with the utmost confidence
1:12:43
Speaker 2: in his? Abilities do you realize how rare that? Is
1:12:47
Speaker 2: that he's not some prima. Donna and yet he does
1:12:50
Speaker 2: not play scared. Whatsoever he is excellent at flushing the
1:12:55
Speaker 2: last mistake and does not change how aggressive he's going
1:12:58
Speaker 2: to be on the next. Bro the defense might dictate
1:13:02
Speaker 2: how aggressive he's going to, be but nothing in his
1:13:05
Speaker 2: head's going to dictate. IT i think he has just a.
1:13:09
Speaker 2: Man there's a short list of professional athletes that have
1:13:12
Speaker 2: the ability That Sam darnold. Has from the standpoint Of
1:13:16
Speaker 2: i'm not going to get too hyped about the praise
1:13:18
Speaker 2: And i'm not going to get bothered at all by the.
1:13:21
Speaker 2: Criticism i'm going to be. Me, Yeah i'm gonna come
1:13:24
Speaker 2: out here and let it rip and then let the
1:13:26
Speaker 2: chips fall where they. May and that's why his teammates
1:13:28
Speaker 2: absolutely adore.
1:13:29
Speaker 3: Him and that's WHY i, MEAN i think that's why
1:13:31
Speaker 3: a lot of fans have, quickly, yeah quickly started to like.
1:13:34
Speaker 2: Him, well at least here In, Seattle, yeah. Exactly words
1:13:37
Speaker 2: still hasn't gotten. Out you know That Super bowl usually
1:13:40
Speaker 2: played under the, radar it. Is, yeah well THIS i
1:13:43
Speaker 2: don't know if a lot of people watch.
1:13:45
Speaker 3: IT i don't know if you know, This, chuck but
1:13:46
Speaker 3: there was not a lot of star power in The Super.
1:13:48
Speaker 3: Bowl there was nothing really.
1:13:49
Speaker 1: Exciting you can.
1:13:51
Speaker 2: See why a football fan would not have wanted to
1:13:53
Speaker 2: watch that, game, right, yeah and why they might not
1:13:56
Speaker 2: have grasped anything from. It it's it's just one of
1:14:00
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Speaker 2: heally AND i hitting the club out on the day day.
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Speaker 9: Floor my club days are well behind, me talking fortunately.
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Speaker 2: Minor ahead of. Me really, yeah totally.
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Speaker 1: Club.
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Speaker 2: Yeah i've decided here as of late That i'm really
1:14:51
Speaker 2: going to focus on my moves at the club as
1:14:55
Speaker 2: a goal in.
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Speaker 6: Life.
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Speaker 9: Yeah my wife calls it a. Clerb so that's that's
1:15:00
Speaker 9: tells you how out of date we are of actually
1:15:02
Speaker 9: going to a. Club only Club i'm going to is
1:15:04
Speaker 9: a kids. Club i'm going to the.
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Speaker 2: Club show off my. Kids you got, this?
1:15:11
Speaker 9: Buddy, yeah.
1:15:14
Speaker 2: Ran E lee with us Every tuesday here at nine. O'clock,
1:15:18
Speaker 2: Boy dingers are, fun aren't? They was that not a
1:15:20
Speaker 2: great home run derby last?
1:15:22
Speaker 6: Night was that not?
1:15:23
Speaker 2: Special that's the. Best that's the most entertaining One i've
1:15:25
Speaker 2: watched from beginning to end. Ever, YEAH i Mean i've
1:15:31
Speaker 2: seen better individual performances THAT i think stole the. Show
1:15:35
Speaker 2: but in terms Of Wilson contreras starts it with the
1:15:38
Speaker 2: best round of the night and then the way walker
1:15:41
Speaker 2: tracked down the Hometown schwarber at the, END i just
1:15:44
Speaker 2: thought every round was good AND i thought that was
1:15:48
Speaker 2: the best beginning to end home run Derby i've ever.
1:15:50
Speaker 9: SEEN i think in recent. Years CERTAINLY mlb had a
1:15:54
Speaker 9: big win last night with just the adjustments they'd made
1:15:57
Speaker 9: to the. Format it looked like the players responded to
1:16:00
Speaker 9: it really, nicely AND i think the like so much
1:16:02
Speaker 9: credit goes to The philly fan, base the energy they,
1:16:06
Speaker 9: brought what they were rooting for or against any particular
1:16:09
Speaker 9: player that was currently, Hitting like The booze were just
1:16:12
Speaker 9: as loud as the cheers all night long for anyone
1:16:14
Speaker 9: going Against warburg or if your name Was Wilson, catreras it.
1:16:18
Speaker 9: Was it was, very very entertaining in the fan base
1:16:21
Speaker 9: did a great job there bringing the.
1:16:22
Speaker 2: Energy, yeah no doubt about. It you had to have
1:16:25
Speaker 2: been in a couple of home run derbies in your, life, Right.
1:16:29
Speaker 9: Yeah and, Honestly i've been reflecting on some of those
1:16:32
Speaker 9: recently BECAUSE i had a big one coming up in
1:16:34
Speaker 9: the in the beginning Of, august Which I'm i'm starting
1:16:36
Speaker 9: to prepare my body for a little. Bit BUT i
1:16:39
Speaker 9: did WANT i did one In cooperstown WHEN i was.
1:16:41
Speaker 9: YOUNG i remember WHEN i Did Pony league growing, up
1:16:44
Speaker 9: MAYBE i was ten or eleven years. OLD i did
1:16:45
Speaker 9: want At Dodger stadium where they set you up in the,
1:16:47
Speaker 9: outfield you get to hit it over the center field.
1:16:49
Speaker 9: WALL i did one at high school that was ACTUALLY.
1:16:52
Speaker 9: UCLA i THINK i did one In DOUBLE. A i'm
1:16:57
Speaker 9: not positive it would have been In Corporus, Christy texas
1:17:00
Speaker 9: in The Texas. League i'm not positive doing that, year
1:17:02
Speaker 9: BUT i definitely uh embarked on a few journeys to
1:17:05
Speaker 9: the course of my. CAREER i would imagine you did
1:17:07
Speaker 9: well at, these ONLY i don't THINK i ever won
1:17:09
Speaker 9: one of. Them, yeah so Maybe i'm. Overdue is that
1:17:13
Speaker 9: what that?
1:17:13
Speaker 2: MEANS i? Think? So, OH i think You're you're gonna
1:17:15
Speaker 2: run away with this one next, month aren't.
1:17:17
Speaker 9: YOU i feel like IF i, beat like if IF i,
1:17:20
Speaker 9: WIN i might get booed just because like, THIS i
1:17:23
Speaker 9: feel like this is Each Row's homer And derby to
1:17:25
Speaker 9: win like it's it feels like it's his. Twin and
1:17:28
Speaker 9: IF i Beat Eachi, row Like i'm Just i've been.
1:17:31
Speaker 9: Dreaming maybe it was a. NIGHTMARE i don't, know BUT
1:17:33
Speaker 9: i been dreaming of like beat beating Each ro like
1:17:35
Speaker 9: Like Jordan walker did last night Of Kyle schwarburn his
1:17:38
Speaker 9: hometown stadium with the statue of the guy just out,
1:17:41
Speaker 9: Front like if that, HAPPENS i might get booed out
1:17:44
Speaker 9: of the place and not get welcome.
1:17:45
Speaker 2: Back here's your. Bet uh you, say, HEY i beat each,
1:17:48
Speaker 2: ROW i get a statue outside the. Stadium and and
1:17:52
Speaker 2: if he beats, ME i take everyone in The mariners
1:17:56
Speaker 2: out to THE. CLERB i gotta take him to the. Club,
1:17:59
Speaker 2: yeah you take him to the. Clerb you take each
1:18:01
Speaker 2: care my.
1:18:02
Speaker 9: Wife that's when my wife comes with, Me we're. Good
1:18:04
Speaker 9: she's the energy THAT i need at the.
1:18:05
Speaker 2: Clerb you, Know ashley AND i were talked about this
1:18:09
Speaker 2: a little. Earlier a year. Ago Cal rawley wins the
1:18:12
Speaker 2: home Run derby and it really was just the year Of.
1:18:16
Speaker 2: CAL i, mean it just sell everything that he touched
1:18:18
Speaker 2: just turned to. Gold and it caught us by. SURPRISE i,
1:18:23
Speaker 2: mean we all already Loved cal before last, season but
1:18:27
Speaker 2: obviously he did things that were, unexpected even for. Himself
1:18:31
Speaker 2: he was not he didn't set a goal of sixty
1:18:33
Speaker 2: home runs heading into last, year and then this year
1:18:37
Speaker 2: obviously he's not. Present and you think about the way
1:18:41
Speaker 2: that the season has gone this season For, cal going
1:18:43
Speaker 2: all the way back to THE, Wbc it's like everything
1:18:46
Speaker 2: he's touched this year has just it just hasn't come
1:18:48
Speaker 2: together for, him and here he sits at The All
1:18:50
Speaker 2: star break with a one sixty nine batting. Average, so,
1:18:53
Speaker 2: man you compare and contrast a year ago with Cal
1:18:56
Speaker 2: rawley to this, year it really does highlight how important
1:19:01
Speaker 2: he is going.
1:19:02
Speaker 9: To be to the second half of the season for this.
1:19:04
Speaker 9: Team there's no doubt about. That and he's he's been
1:19:08
Speaker 9: the leader of this. TEAM i honestly think it was
1:19:11
Speaker 9: before last year's. PERFORMANCE i think the success on the
1:19:14
Speaker 9: field cemented some of those feelings that were already circulate
1:19:18
Speaker 9: in the clubhouse Of kyl is the. Guy he is
1:19:21
Speaker 9: the father of our, Group AND i know that it's
1:19:24
Speaker 9: really hard to lead other people when you're having a
1:19:27
Speaker 9: hard time leading. Yourself And i'm not making assumptions of
1:19:31
Speaker 9: what kl might be going through in his routines or
1:19:33
Speaker 9: off the, field BUT i know the mental impact of
1:19:37
Speaker 9: the performance he's having now what that does and how
1:19:39
Speaker 9: much of a toll it takes on. You AND i
1:19:40
Speaker 9: know it's hard to think about, others hold people accountable
1:19:45
Speaker 9: to the standard that the team is operating at or
1:19:47
Speaker 9: trying to operate, at to ultimately be Humble World series
1:19:50
Speaker 9: contender like they were projected to be when you really
1:19:54
Speaker 9: can't put together a couple of quality, bats and it's
1:19:57
Speaker 9: not because he's a bad. Hitter it's just one of those.
1:19:59
Speaker 9: YEARS i had a actually had a hitting coordinator in
1:20:02
Speaker 9: the batting cage with. Me last, night good buddy of
1:20:04
Speaker 9: mine came in and he was asking me about col
1:20:06
Speaker 9: AND i, SAID i have watched hours upon hours of
1:20:09
Speaker 9: Cal rawley video from last season to this, season and
1:20:11
Speaker 9: the most frustrating piece is there's not something that is
1:20:15
Speaker 9: drastically off in his, swing and that's been confirmed multiple
1:20:19
Speaker 9: times By, cal by hitting, coaches everyone. Around it's just
1:20:22
Speaker 9: simply the, timing the pitch election and the ability to you,
1:20:25
Speaker 9: know get the ball rolling down the hill on a consistent.
1:20:28
Speaker 9: Basis and you see glimpses of, it but it feels
1:20:31
Speaker 9: like there's so much failure that's happened on a particular,
1:20:35
Speaker 9: pitch meaning the fastball up in the, zone that anytime
1:20:37
Speaker 9: he misses, one it's almost, like, no here we go.
1:20:40
Speaker 9: Again and that's what it kind of looks like to.
1:20:41
Speaker 2: Me what is the adjustment that needs to be, Made
1:20:44
Speaker 2: not that they haven't tried a million, times but whenever
1:20:47
Speaker 2: you were having difficulty because you, know you've talked about.
1:20:50
Speaker 6: It it's just.
1:20:51
Speaker 2: Tortuous you're always struggling at, something but particularly because that
1:20:56
Speaker 2: looks like the. Problem he can't catch up to the high,
1:20:59
Speaker 2: fastball and yet he can't lay off the high. Fastball
1:21:02
Speaker 2: what is a trick that maybe you tried to try
1:21:05
Speaker 2: to catch up to that.
1:21:07
Speaker 9: PITCH i would swing someone else's. BAT i would change
1:21:11
Speaker 9: like the, weight the length of the, bat the model
1:21:14
Speaker 9: THAT i would, swing just to give myself maybe a different,
1:21:16
Speaker 9: balance different feel in the batter's. Box that was a
1:21:19
Speaker 9: big go, to along with changing my, cleats bat and,
1:21:22
Speaker 9: gloves anything THAT i possibly could to try and take
1:21:25
Speaker 9: my mind off of the. Obvious AND i think the
1:21:28
Speaker 9: formula THAT i WISH i used more was create my
1:21:31
Speaker 9: own scorecard or standard of success of things that are
1:21:35
Speaker 9: completely within my. Control and it's really simple tasks That
1:21:39
Speaker 9: i'm trying to accomplish WHEN i step in the batter's,
1:21:41
Speaker 9: box and THEN i can reverse engineer what my preparation
1:21:43
Speaker 9: looks like throughout the course of the, day and maybe
1:21:45
Speaker 9: what he. Does he goes in off of the true
1:21:47
Speaker 9: ject and he faces twenty five, pitches and my goal
1:21:49
Speaker 9: is to take x amount of pitches at the top
1:21:52
Speaker 9: of the, zone and THEN i want to get my
1:21:54
Speaker 9: swing off ON x amount of pitches on top of
1:21:55
Speaker 9: the zone to show myself WHERE i can handle that
1:21:58
Speaker 9: and just really make that pitch the priority of the,
1:22:01
Speaker 9: Day and, like CAN i go in there and execute
1:22:04
Speaker 9: in my first at bat being on time for fastball
1:22:05
Speaker 9: at top of his Own IF i, can great THAT
1:22:07
Speaker 9: i can move on to the next. Task but really
1:22:09
Speaker 9: organizing my what my success looks like as a hitter,
1:22:13
Speaker 9: today and how CAN i keep myself within those.
1:22:15
Speaker 2: Margins Ryan heay is with us Every tuesday Talking Mariner
1:22:18
Speaker 2: baseball with the former Man mariner and current member of
1:22:21
Speaker 2: The MARINER tv crew as. Well hopefully you're going to
1:22:25
Speaker 2: hear and see more Of brian on that front here
1:22:28
Speaker 2: in the coming. Weeks what else about the first half
1:22:32
Speaker 2: has led us to this frustrating game under five hundred
1:22:37
Speaker 2: All star break? Moment what else do you pinpoint as
1:22:43
Speaker 2: beyond cal as something, Like, hey if this team wants
1:22:46
Speaker 2: to get where it wants to, go they are going
1:22:48
Speaker 2: to have to be better in this.
1:22:50
Speaker 9: Area three Things i'll give, you, okay Good one one
1:22:55
Speaker 9: IS i feel like the defense has been really, inconsistent
1:22:58
Speaker 9: which has given a free, outs free, bases and with
1:23:02
Speaker 9: an offense that's not producing consistent runs per, game those free,
1:23:07
Speaker 9: outs free bases turning into unearned runs really makes the
1:23:11
Speaker 9: game feel out of. Hand so that's. One the second
1:23:13
Speaker 9: one is the. Offense the offense is in the bottom
1:23:16
Speaker 9: half of the league in almost every. Category the only
1:23:20
Speaker 9: category THAT i was looking at real quickly that they're
1:23:22
Speaker 9: in the top ten in the league and the, strikeouts
1:23:24
Speaker 9: and this is a team that was built to strike out,
1:23:26
Speaker 9: less maybe not hit as many home, runs but get
1:23:29
Speaker 9: on base, more manufacture runs THAN i haven't seen that
1:23:31
Speaker 9: executed at a high level at. All and then number
1:23:35
Speaker 9: three for me is the expectations of the season from
1:23:39
Speaker 9: outside sources and maybe even from inside. SOURCES i think
1:23:43
Speaker 9: that before a season ever, starts when the label Of
1:23:46
Speaker 9: World series or bus is put on, you WHICH i
1:23:51
Speaker 9: totally agree with, you AND i understand why, though after
1:23:55
Speaker 9: what you experienced as a team last, season why would
1:23:58
Speaker 9: you not come in with that expectation sky's? Limit BUT
1:24:01
Speaker 9: i think the gap between expectation and reality is where
1:24:04
Speaker 9: frustration can just multiply so. Quickly and this, team this fan,
1:24:08
Speaker 9: base everyone surrounding it has felt so much frustration this
1:24:11
Speaker 9: year because the expectation Was World series or, busts and
1:24:14
Speaker 9: this team has maybe looked like A World series team
1:24:17
Speaker 9: for that eight ten games stretch that was at the
1:24:19
Speaker 9: end Of may Early june when they went on that.
1:24:21
Speaker 9: Run but they went on that run because they were
1:24:23
Speaker 9: hitting a bunch of home, runs and when they don't
1:24:25
Speaker 9: hit home, runs they're having a hard time winning baseball,
1:24:28
Speaker 9: games even though they have six really good major league
1:24:31
Speaker 9: starting pitchers that are doing a good job, overall with
1:24:35
Speaker 9: some higher performers than some guys. Struggling but the, defense the,
1:24:39
Speaker 9: offense and the expectations are the three things that have
1:24:42
Speaker 9: really crippled this team in the first.
1:24:44
Speaker 2: Half, Well i'll loop you in on something THAT i did,
1:24:47
Speaker 2: yesterday AND i doubt you're going to agree with. It
1:24:50
Speaker 2: but AND i take this very. Seriously i'm not some
1:24:53
Speaker 2: hot take sports talk show hosts who just shows up
1:24:55
Speaker 2: angry at the local baseball team and pops. Off i've
1:25:00
Speaker 2: been frustrated With Dan wilson's bullpen, decisions is use of
1:25:05
Speaker 2: his bench this, year which really are the last two
1:25:09
Speaker 2: frontiers that a manager in modern day has total control
1:25:13
Speaker 2: over from AN x as AN o, standpoint but more, Importantly,
1:25:16
Speaker 2: RYAN i have huge expectations for this team this, year
1:25:19
Speaker 2: AND i feel like they are falling so far short
1:25:23
Speaker 2: of fulfilling those. Expectations that really is the manager's, job
1:25:27
Speaker 2: get the most out of the talent you've been. GIVEN
1:25:29
Speaker 2: i think he's been given a lot of. Talent we're
1:25:31
Speaker 2: a game under five. Hundred so YESTERDAY i went as
1:25:33
Speaker 2: far as, SAYING i think we need a new. Manager
1:25:36
Speaker 2: tell me Why i'm right or wrong about.
1:25:38
Speaker 9: That who would you say is the most successful manager
1:25:42
Speaker 9: of The Seattle mariners of all?
1:25:43
Speaker 8: Time?
1:25:44
Speaker 2: Uh, loo? Panella?
1:25:46
Speaker 9: Okay and he was fresh on my mind because he
1:25:48
Speaker 9: got some camera time In tampa this this. Weekend do
1:25:51
Speaker 9: you know what his winning percentage is for his career
1:25:54
Speaker 9: thirty five hundred plus games with The, mariners.
1:25:58
Speaker 2: Worse Than Dan.
1:25:58
Speaker 9: Wilson's, yes, Yeah AND i don't say that to say
1:26:02
Speaker 9: that that the smaller sample size the numbers tell everything
1:26:07
Speaker 9: of a. Story BUT i do believe that the sample
1:26:10
Speaker 9: size that we've seen Of Dan wilson up to this
1:26:12
Speaker 9: point is that of, success and so far this season
1:26:17
Speaker 9: it hasn't been as successful as it could be or should,
1:26:20
Speaker 9: Be and there have been decisions that have been made
1:26:22
Speaker 9: THAT i don't agree with and you don't agree, with
1:26:24
Speaker 9: and quite, Frankly i'm Sure dan doesn't agree with that
1:26:27
Speaker 9: to this, point been some factors out of his control
1:26:29
Speaker 9: of injuries and, stuff but also games that probably managed
1:26:33
Speaker 9: their way to a. Loss, unfortunately the thing THAT i
1:26:36
Speaker 9: can't get over is what happens To Dan wilson's relationship
1:26:41
Speaker 9: with The Seattle mariners if they do fire, Him and
1:26:44
Speaker 9: is the fan base willing to lose that relationship that
1:26:47
Speaker 9: type of alumni over a half of the season's worth
1:26:51
Speaker 9: of underperforming from the actual team on the. Field are
1:26:55
Speaker 9: they willing to put all that blame onto you, know
1:26:58
Speaker 9: A Seattle mariner great who has turned this club around
1:27:02
Speaker 9: over the last year and a half two years that
1:27:04
Speaker 9: he's been. Here are They are they willing to break
1:27:07
Speaker 9: that relationship just because the expectations Were World series are?
1:27:10
Speaker 9: Bust AND i don't think this Takes dan off the hook.
1:27:12
Speaker 9: ENTIRELY i would love to see him be more accountable
1:27:15
Speaker 9: and more real in some of the interviews of this
1:27:18
Speaker 9: was not what the standard is, Here LIKE i would
1:27:21
Speaker 9: like to see maybe a little more aggressive, tone but
1:27:22
Speaker 9: that's not his. Personality then it's unfair for me to
1:27:26
Speaker 9: ask him to be.
1:27:26
Speaker 2: That i've also had an issue with the focus of
1:27:30
Speaker 2: the players From randy's play down the left field line
1:27:33
Speaker 2: that he let go To Josh naylor sometimes hot dogging
1:27:37
Speaker 2: plays and turning it into an, error to really some
1:27:41
Speaker 2: bad bass running at times during the course of the.
1:27:44
Speaker 2: YEAR i think that's also a reflection of the. MANAGER i, mean,
1:27:49
Speaker 2: like where's the? FOCUS i, Mean Randy roseerina is such
1:27:52
Speaker 2: an interesting topic to bring up with you, today but
1:27:56
Speaker 2: where is if if he's GOT i know everybody in
1:28:00
Speaker 2: that clubhouse likes, HIM i know, that but there's a
1:28:03
Speaker 2: difference between getting everybody to like you and get everybody
1:28:06
Speaker 2: to perform for, you and nearly to a, man with
1:28:10
Speaker 2: the exception about five, guys they've underperformed. Individually AND i
1:28:16
Speaker 2: wonder how much of that reflects On dan in your.
1:28:19
Speaker 9: Eyes there was a Moment Logan gilbert THROUGH i want
1:28:25
Speaker 9: to say it Was game one of The ray. Series
1:28:27
Speaker 9: it was that Game Warner game.
1:28:28
Speaker 2: Two, uh that Was game, ONE i.
1:28:32
Speaker 9: Believe so the decision For logan to talk his way
1:28:36
Speaker 9: into staying in the game, yes and then giving the
1:28:38
Speaker 9: double Up toronto like that was a moment For dan
1:28:41
Speaker 9: of Like, Okay i'm gonna trust my guy, here like
1:28:43
Speaker 9: our team's going through a tough stretch our opening day
1:28:45
Speaker 9: starter talk me into leaving the. Game all, right let's,
1:28:48
Speaker 9: go and then grooves of fastball double off the. Wall,
1:28:51
Speaker 9: okay intentional. Walk now let's bring in the lefty lefty
1:28:54
Speaker 9: to match him. Up oh, Okay now they pinch hit
1:28:56
Speaker 9: bringing a, Righty oh. Okay like this Is dan trying
1:28:59
Speaker 9: to make right decisions and the game is still telling
1:29:02
Speaker 9: him or showing him know that that wasn't good. Enough
1:29:05
Speaker 9: you just made like a good gut instinct decision to
1:29:08
Speaker 9: trust your, player and then he gives it the double
1:29:10
Speaker 9: and then you go for the. Matchup opposing manager, responds
1:29:14
Speaker 9: and then first pitch of the bat FOR GameSpy or
1:29:16
Speaker 9: three run home run puts the game out of. Reach
1:29:17
Speaker 9: like it just feels like and if you Saw dan's
1:29:21
Speaker 9: face after that in the dugout when the camera kept
1:29:23
Speaker 9: panting to, him like the exact thoughts going through his
1:29:26
Speaker 9: mind is my my assumption is what AM i gonna?
1:29:29
Speaker 9: Do like WHAT i what AM i supposed to?
1:29:31
Speaker 3: Do?
1:29:31
Speaker 9: Like if this is how the game is gonna treat
1:29:33
Speaker 9: me and respond to me WHEN i try to make
1:29:35
Speaker 9: a good, decision then what's the? Point like it felt
1:29:39
Speaker 9: like that helpless moment of like what AM?
1:29:41
Speaker 6: I what CAN i do?
1:29:43
Speaker 9: Better what CAN i do? Differently BECAUSE i THOUGHT i
1:29:44
Speaker 9: just did that, perfectly and the game still, said here's
1:29:46
Speaker 9: a three run, homer see you. Later like this game is,
1:29:49
Speaker 9: Brutal it's cruel in so many.
1:29:51
Speaker 2: Ways let's talk About randy Or Rose, arena because on one,
1:29:55
Speaker 2: hand he, is without a, doubt our most Deserving All.
1:29:58
Speaker 2: Star we only get one this, year apparently our most
1:30:01
Speaker 2: Deserving All. Star but on the other, hand we saw
1:30:05
Speaker 2: it over the, Weekend we've seen a numerous Times randy
1:30:08
Speaker 2: seems to be On randy's plan and doesn't quite. Understand
1:30:12
Speaker 2: it feels like to me at, times what it's like
1:30:14
Speaker 2: to do what's best for the. Team how do you
1:30:17
Speaker 2: wrestle With randy Or Rose arena the player trying to
1:30:21
Speaker 2: relate to him as how you'd like to have him
1:30:24
Speaker 2: as a.
1:30:24
Speaker 9: Teammate in my, opinion If randy wasn't An All star
1:30:30
Speaker 9: this year and performing the way that he has so
1:30:32
Speaker 9: consistently and bend the guy that you want to come
1:30:34
Speaker 9: up in every, SPOT i think there'd be a lot
1:30:38
Speaker 9: different opinions out there across the league and Across seattle
1:30:42
Speaker 9: Of randy as a, player AND i think you take
1:30:45
Speaker 9: the good with the, bad just because his performance speaks for,
1:30:49
Speaker 9: itself and, unfortunately baseball is a performance forward, league and
1:30:53
Speaker 9: if you perform, well then everything else kind of gets.
1:30:56
Speaker 9: IGNORED i don't Think randy's a bad guy by any.
1:31:00
Speaker 9: STRETCH i just think he's done this for a long
1:31:03
Speaker 9: time at a high level and has had very very
1:31:06
Speaker 9: consistent success and been An All star multiple times and
1:31:09
Speaker 9: has really flourished and captured the heart Of mariners. Fans
1:31:12
Speaker 9: AND i understand why because when he pulls out there
1:31:15
Speaker 9: and he plays with high, energy high, intent he he
1:31:19
Speaker 9: captures your attention with everything he. Does BUT i also
1:31:22
Speaker 9: know it's hard to perform at that type of level
1:31:25
Speaker 9: on one hundred and sixty two game. Basis it takes
1:31:28
Speaker 9: a lot out of, you and you, know when you're playing,
1:31:30
Speaker 9: outfield you have a lot more ground to, cover so
1:31:32
Speaker 9: if your energy and effort isn't really, high it can
1:31:34
Speaker 9: look really, poor kind of like that fly. Ball and
1:31:37
Speaker 9: obviously he's still nursing like a, hamstring so like there's
1:31:40
Speaker 9: like there's factors that go into. It he's going out
1:31:42
Speaker 9: there willing to play for his, team posting for his,
1:31:44
Speaker 9: team not at one hundred. Percent so how much credit do.
1:31:47
Speaker 6: We give that?
1:31:48
Speaker 9: Verse, hey you should have made that play like it's
1:31:49
Speaker 9: it's such a push and, pull which is probably why
1:31:52
Speaker 9: there's not anyone in that clubhouse or organization saying anything to, him, because,
1:31:57
Speaker 9: like you want that bat in the. LINEUP i don't
1:31:59
Speaker 9: want him to hurt that hamstring again and not be
1:32:02
Speaker 9: able to hit because he was hustling for a foul
1:32:05
Speaker 9: ball down the left field. Line but then also you
1:32:07
Speaker 9: see the ball dropping the next pitch is a home.
1:32:09
Speaker 9: Run you're, Like, GOD i should have been, Caught like
1:32:13
Speaker 9: pick your poison there at this, Point, chuck which one
1:32:15
Speaker 9: do you really?
1:32:15
Speaker 2: Want? YEAH i said this, yesterday and you can feel
1:32:18
Speaker 2: free to agree or. DISAGREE i guarantee You randy Rose
1:32:21
Speaker 2: arena was told with that, Hamstring, hey no crazy. Plays
1:32:25
Speaker 2: don't dive in the, walls don't jump into stands like
1:32:30
Speaker 2: the Foul if it's a foul, ball it's not as
1:32:32
Speaker 2: important as your. Health AND i Think randy has a
1:32:35
Speaker 2: hard time when his own personal filter of UNDERSTANDING i
1:32:40
Speaker 2: met you in his, head he's, like that's a play
1:32:42
Speaker 2: that they don't want me to go for because right and,
1:32:46
Speaker 2: then but it looked to us like that was an
1:32:48
Speaker 2: easy agree with that. Statement, REALLY i don't agree with.
1:32:51
Speaker 9: THAT i agree that he was told, to, like please
1:32:54
Speaker 9: take care of, yourself like if it's a routine ground,
1:32:56
Speaker 9: ball we don't need to see a hard, Ninety like
1:32:59
Speaker 9: if it's a pop, fly do you feel like you're
1:33:02
Speaker 9: not gonna get To LIKE i don't need you to reinjure.
1:33:04
Speaker 9: It SO i guaranteed there was that conversation that. Happened
1:33:09
Speaker 9: BUT i don't think in his head he's, like, oh
1:33:11
Speaker 9: they don't want me to go for that, Ball i'm
1:33:12
Speaker 9: just gonna dog it over, here lod You, LIKE i.
1:33:14
Speaker 9: DON'T i don't think that happens in the. Spot my
1:33:17
Speaker 9: guess is he takes his first couple of hard steps
1:33:19
Speaker 9: and his, eyes his reid told, Him i'm probably not
1:33:22
Speaker 9: gonna get, There so he dialed it back a little
1:33:23
Speaker 9: bit and then it dropped where it did and looked
1:33:26
Speaker 9: like he had an opportunity. Forward everyone there saying why
1:33:29
Speaker 9: wasn't that ball?
1:33:29
Speaker 2: Caught mm, Hm, well you, know we had a lot
1:33:32
Speaker 2: of frustrating moments last, season and look how. Fun it
1:33:35
Speaker 2: ended up being so.
1:33:37
Speaker 9: It's supposed to be. Frustrating if it was fun every,
1:33:39
Speaker 9: day then you wouldn't enjoy the, highs right. Think it
1:33:45
Speaker 9: wouldn't be nice, though for All mariner fans, listening if
1:33:49
Speaker 9: they could once enjoy an easy ride to the, end just,
1:33:52
Speaker 9: once just ten games up throughout the entire second, half
1:33:56
Speaker 9: feet up on the, desk and then we'll get serious
1:33:58
Speaker 9: in the.
1:33:59
Speaker 2: Playoffs that'd be. Nice i'd like to see that you're
1:34:02
Speaker 2: shaking here to doing, That, Dodgers and that's that's the, List,
1:34:07
Speaker 2: chuck that's the. List all, right, man great stuff has
1:34:13
Speaker 2: always really enjoyed, it and we will talk to you
1:34:16
Speaker 2: again next. Week can't, wait all? Right Ryan helick joining
1:34:19
Speaker 2: us right, here Former. Mariner currently On MARINERS tv at
1:34:22
Speaker 2: Every tuesday at nine o'clock we chat With Ryan. Healey
1:34:25
Speaker 2: coming up next on the, Program Anders hurst is going
1:34:28
Speaker 2: to join. Us we'll preview Today's World cup, match tomorrow's
1:34:31
Speaker 2: as well while we have Them Sports radio ninety three
1:34:34
Speaker 2: point three kJ r F. M all, right It's Chucking
1:34:49
Speaker 2: buck in the, Mornings Chuck, Powell, Ashley ryan with you
1:34:52
Speaker 2: joining us now as we get you ready for Another
1:34:54
Speaker 2: World cup. Match only three, remaining, well actually, four because
1:34:57
Speaker 2: they do try to make a big deal out of
1:34:59
Speaker 2: that third PLACE a.
1:35:01
Speaker 6: Rip, YEAH i.
1:35:02
Speaker 2: Don't Maybe anders, Does but then, Again anders sees the
1:35:04
Speaker 2: world differently than you AND. I sometimes joining us now
1:35:07
Speaker 2: is our own Anders hurst in anticipation of Today's Spain
1:35:12
Speaker 2: france slug, match how are, you?
1:35:14
Speaker 8: Sir i'm doing. WELL i hate the third place, match
1:35:18
Speaker 8: So i'm all with you.
1:35:18
Speaker 2: Guys yay out of?
1:35:20
Speaker 8: Way?
1:35:20
Speaker 2: Anders what about this? ONE i did this earlier in
1:35:23
Speaker 2: the show, Too, Like i've really watched and enjoyed more
1:35:27
Speaker 2: soccer in the last month THAN i ever had in
1:35:29
Speaker 2: my entire life, combined and YET i still have the, flopping,
1:35:34
Speaker 2: unnecessary writhing on the field issues with the. Sport but
1:35:39
Speaker 2: almost everybody That i'm talking with that are soccer, fans
1:35:43
Speaker 2: Including stretch and a couple of, others they've all SAID
1:35:47
Speaker 2: i don't like that. Either as soccer, FANS i don't like.
1:35:49
Speaker 2: That do you think with video review and some of
1:35:53
Speaker 2: the things that we've watched happened in this, tournament that
1:35:56
Speaker 2: maybe that part of soccer which is absorbed into the
1:35:59
Speaker 2: culture will start to get faded out of the.
1:36:02
Speaker 8: Sport? Uh it would be very, difficult to be completely,
1:36:07
Speaker 8: honest BECAUSE i think it's just it has been going
1:36:10
Speaker 8: on for such a long. Time it's like you, said
1:36:14
Speaker 8: it's just part of the. Culture it's really really hard
1:36:17
Speaker 8: to kind of etch something out just like. That and
1:36:22
Speaker 8: with EVERY var change that they, make there's up in
1:36:26
Speaker 8: arms people pissed off about how it's. Used they want
1:36:29
Speaker 8: to go back to the old days when they weren't USING.
1:36:31
Speaker 8: Var soccer more than any other, sport is very reluctant to. Change,
1:36:37
Speaker 8: however they've done it more recently to just try and you,
1:36:41
Speaker 8: know fix parts of the game that are pretty obvious
1:36:43
Speaker 8: that need, fixing like what you. Mentioned i'm with. YOU
1:36:46
Speaker 8: i just don't know if it's important enough to the
1:36:51
Speaker 8: normal soccer fans who get that out of the. Game
1:36:54
Speaker 8: it is important For, americans AND i completely understand, that
1:36:59
Speaker 8: AND i talked to about this With hugh And dick On.
1:37:03
Speaker 8: FRIDAY i just don't know physical, toughness which is the
1:37:07
Speaker 8: thing that kind of gets undermined when you're doing, that
1:37:12
Speaker 8: is that important to at least the appearance of it to,
1:37:16
Speaker 8: fans to players and stuff like. That so to, ME
1:37:21
Speaker 8: i don't know if it ever will Get and you,
1:37:24
Speaker 8: know etched out of the, game but maybe at least
1:37:27
Speaker 8: it will be diminished to a point where it's a
1:37:29
Speaker 8: little bit more.
1:37:30
Speaker 2: Acceptable interesting, Answer interesting. Answer all, right what about this
1:37:34
Speaker 2: part of the? Tournament there there seem to be a
1:37:37
Speaker 2: lot of. Drama it seemed to be like upsets and near,
1:37:41
Speaker 2: UPSETS i mean enormous near upsets throughout the entire. Tournament
1:37:45
Speaker 2: and yet here we are with the four teams that
1:37:48
Speaker 2: were expected to get to the final. Four do you
1:37:51
Speaker 2: like that about? It do you like that it ended
1:37:52
Speaker 2: up in chalk or do you wish we would have
1:37:54
Speaker 2: had a little more of a bumpy road to get
1:37:58
Speaker 2: to the final of final four? Teams?
1:38:02
Speaker 8: YEAH i like. IT i think it's a VERY ncaa
1:38:06
Speaker 8: tournament esque where you do get some upsets and you
1:38:10
Speaker 8: do get some magical, runs but at the end of the,
1:38:13
Speaker 8: day it's usually the final four. Teams maybe there's one
1:38:17
Speaker 8: every couple of. Years that's that's a huge surprise Of
1:38:20
Speaker 8: George mason sort of. Situation BUT i, mean this is
1:38:25
Speaker 8: this is what we, wanted, Right we want the four
1:38:26
Speaker 8: best teams all with the chance in my, opinion to.
1:38:29
Speaker 8: Win like compared to twenty twenty, two When morocco And
1:38:34
Speaker 8: croatia were two of the four semi. Finalists you could
1:38:37
Speaker 8: kind of almost unfortunately count them out for a chance
1:38:41
Speaker 8: to win The World. CUP i don't think you can
1:38:43
Speaker 8: say that for any team that's that's playing in this
1:38:46
Speaker 8: in the. Semifinals, so AND i think the two matchups
1:38:49
Speaker 8: are about as perfectly set up as. Possible you got the,
1:38:53
Speaker 8: tactical just all out offense Versus i'm gonna keep the
1:38:57
Speaker 8: ball away from you the entire, time which is frank Versus,
1:39:00
Speaker 8: spain and then the politically charged history Of england Versus argentina.
1:39:07
Speaker 8: Tomorrow SO i think the two matchups are just perfect
1:39:10
Speaker 8: to kind of set up what should be an amazing
1:39:12
Speaker 8: final as.
1:39:13
Speaker 2: Well All, right So france has seemed like they've had
1:39:16
Speaker 2: the least amount of trouble from match to. Match they
1:39:20
Speaker 2: just feel like they've been in control of every match they.
1:39:23
Speaker 2: Play why is it going to be different?
1:39:26
Speaker 8: TODAY i think Because. Spain if any team in this
1:39:32
Speaker 8: tournament is going to Beat, FRANCE i do Believe france
1:39:35
Speaker 8: is the. FAVORITE i think they're playing the best soccer
1:39:37
Speaker 8: and they have the best, team which are two different.
1:39:39
Speaker 8: Things they're one kind of vulnerability is in midfield and.
1:39:48
Speaker 8: Stain the way they, play they will keep the ball
1:39:50
Speaker 8: away From france for long stretches of the. Game france
1:39:54
Speaker 8: rely on like a high volume. Attack so for anyone
1:39:57
Speaker 8: who's hockey, FANS i compare the matchup to A Colorado
1:40:01
Speaker 8: avalanche versus The Carolina. Hurricanes, right just a suffocating possession
1:40:07
Speaker 8: style Of spain versus the high OCTANE i have superstars.
1:40:14
Speaker 8: Galore i'm gonna just a high volume attack Of, France and,
1:40:20
Speaker 8: HONESTLY i could see it going either. Way spain has
1:40:23
Speaker 8: actually Beaten france the last three times they've, played so
1:40:26
Speaker 8: they do know how to win these types of. Games
1:40:29
Speaker 8: so even Though france has really looked better throughout the
1:40:32
Speaker 8: course of the entire, TOURNAMENT i Think spain knows how
1:40:35
Speaker 8: to kind of win these types of, games and it
1:40:39
Speaker 8: should be a really really fun matchup.
1:40:40
Speaker 2: Today all, right apply that same analysis To argentina Versus.
1:40:46
Speaker 2: England give us the way that one's going to go down.
1:40:49
Speaker 8: TOMORROW i HONESTLY i could see it going either. Way
1:40:53
Speaker 8: the one THING i can say IS i think we're
1:40:56
Speaker 8: going to get some. GOALS i really. Do, argentina believe
1:40:59
Speaker 8: it or, not actually been the highest scoring team in the.
1:41:01
Speaker 8: Tournament even though we think Of france as this the
1:41:05
Speaker 8: best offense or. Whatever In argentina that scores the most,
1:41:09
Speaker 8: goals it's just they've done it in a little bit
1:41:11
Speaker 8: different way this. Year And i'm as concerned as any
1:41:14
Speaker 8: neutral out there for their chances because they haven't really
1:41:18
Speaker 8: dominated any. Game they've just been kind of surviving in.
1:41:21
Speaker 8: Advancing But england you could say the same thing about
1:41:23
Speaker 8: them as. Well the one thing THAT i will say
1:41:26
Speaker 8: IS i do Think argentina has the slight advantage. Offensively
1:41:32
Speaker 8: they just have a little bit more in the magic
1:41:36
Speaker 8: category with With, messi and they're finally starting to get
1:41:40
Speaker 8: some involvements other than him if they. Can if they get,
1:41:44
Speaker 8: more you, know just chances created and goals scoring and
1:41:50
Speaker 8: assists from people other Than Lionel, messi that's what makes
1:41:53
Speaker 8: them really really, good and they finally did that in
1:41:56
Speaker 8: their quarterfinal game Versus. Switzerland so And england and kind
1:42:00
Speaker 8: of the. Opposite the more the tournament goes, on the
1:42:02
Speaker 8: more the reliant On Jude. Bellingham so if if that,
1:42:06
Speaker 8: continues you can it's a great person to rely. On
1:42:10
Speaker 8: BUT i think tactically this one is about as close
1:42:12
Speaker 8: as it gets. Again AND i just add in the
1:42:16
Speaker 8: history of nineteen eighty, six the quarterfinal In england Faced
1:42:20
Speaker 8: argentina right after The Falklands war And Diego maradonna had
1:42:25
Speaker 8: the goal of the century and then scored with his
1:42:27
Speaker 8: hand as. Well so there's a lot of controversy surrounding
1:42:30
Speaker 8: these two teams AND i just can't wait for that
1:42:33
Speaker 8: matchup just for the historical.
1:42:35
Speaker 2: FACTOR i know who you're rooting for in The hurst,
1:42:37
Speaker 2: household But ashley AND i want to hear The Hey
1:42:41
Speaker 2: jude song. Again we want to See bellingham because that
1:42:44
Speaker 2: was Pretty that was a pretty cool moment when all
1:42:46
Speaker 2: Of england was Singing Hey jude To bellingham the other.
1:42:49
Speaker 8: Day, yeah they were Singing. Wonderwall actually that's the.
1:42:52
Speaker 1: Song that They jude to.
1:42:54
Speaker 2: Him oh, okay all, RIGHT i.
1:42:57
Speaker 8: Must have missed that. Part because each team as a
1:43:00
Speaker 8: each team has a song that they sing right after they,
1:43:03
Speaker 8: win SO i guess they added that on just to
1:43:07
Speaker 8: add some, extra you, know merriment to a.
1:43:09
Speaker 2: Victory every good english person knows the words to Hate.
1:43:14
Speaker 2: Jude it just. Works it just.
1:43:16
Speaker 3: Works, yeah and wonder while the team sings with the,
1:43:19
Speaker 3: fans they all sing it, Together hey. You he just
1:43:23
Speaker 3: stood there while they all sang it at, him and
1:43:26
Speaker 3: then he fist pumps and he just soaked it all.
1:43:28
Speaker 8: IN i will, SAY i will, say If england does
1:43:31
Speaker 8: win that, GAME i will root for them against either
1:43:33
Speaker 8: of the other two. Teams so whoever wins that matchup
1:43:36
Speaker 8: is WHO i will be going for in the.
1:43:37
Speaker 2: Final, okay all, right thank you, Sir we appreciate. It
1:43:41
Speaker 2: what kind of work you gotta do?
1:43:43
Speaker 8: TODAY i am doing the the pre match show For
1:43:47
Speaker 8: spain Versus france With Danny, jackson and then you, know
1:43:52
Speaker 8: obviously halftime postgame as. Well hopefully we get a nice,
1:43:55
Speaker 8: fun AM i rooting for extra? Time maybe we'll see
1:44:00
Speaker 8: what ends up. Happening But i'm as intrigued with these
1:44:03
Speaker 8: two matchups AS i have been for, honestly anything That
1:44:06
Speaker 8: i've ever watched in The World. Cup SO i can't
1:44:09
Speaker 8: wait to get down to. It and you can hear
1:44:11
Speaker 8: us at eleven thirty am pregame on ninety three point THREE.
1:44:15
Speaker 2: Kjr all, right have, fun thank, you and another great
1:44:20
Speaker 2: job by Andrews hurst joining us right here on the
1:44:23
Speaker 2: radio program again eleven thirty pre game twelve o'clock. Start
1:44:26
Speaker 2: you can hear it right here on Your World cup
1:44:28
Speaker 2: headquarters here in. Town Sports radio ninety three point three
1:44:32
Speaker 2: kJ R. Fm i'm rooting For. England, yeah, Yeah i'm
1:44:37
Speaker 2: rooting For england the whole. Way let's. Go they've won
1:44:41
Speaker 2: me over, too by the, Way, yeah BECAUSE i kind
1:44:43
Speaker 2: of when the tournament, Started i'm, like, man why are
1:44:45
Speaker 2: you guys making so many? Excuses you're starting with excuses
1:44:48
Speaker 2: before every. Match BUT i don't, Know i'm kind of
1:44:52
Speaker 2: caught up with their whole, history their whole. Story bellingham's
1:44:56
Speaker 2: turned out to be my favorite prayer to watch in
1:44:58
Speaker 2: this entire. Tournament so, Yeah I'm i'm room For. England,
1:45:03
Speaker 2: YEAH i love.
1:45:04
Speaker 1: That welcome to the, Team welcome to the.
1:45:05
Speaker 2: Team, Yeah i'm going to have some tea.
1:45:07
Speaker 1: Today, yeah and crumpets all.
1:45:10
Speaker 2: Right close out next with one last. Thing Sports radio
1:45:12
Speaker 2: ninety three point three KH a r F m