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- 0:01Speaker 1: Eight oh five.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Here fifty five KRCD talk station, Bryan Thomas wishing everyone
- 0:04Speaker 2: a very happy Tuesday. Always looking forward to this time
- 0:07Speaker 2: a week we get the benefit of bright Bart News.
- 0:09Speaker 2: We'll call it the Insight Scoop, different experts from bright
- 0:12Speaker 2: Bart News and the return today of Colin Maydine. He
- 0:15Speaker 2: is the tech expert over at Breitbart and as I
- 0:17Speaker 2: always start, book mark the site b R E I
- 0:19Speaker 2: T B A RT dot com. It's an excellent site.
- 0:22Speaker 2: They report on information you're not going to find on
- 0:24Speaker 2: mainstream media, of course, and it's always very very good reporting,
- 0:28Speaker 2: and of course you always get great reporting from Colin.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Made on Colin. It's great to see you this morning
- 0:32Speaker 2: on the zoom there. Good to see you, brother, and
- 0:34Speaker 2: welcome back to the morning show.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Yeah, we've entered the space age here we are on
- 0:37Speaker 1: zoom you know, more phones right catching up.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Yeah, it's rolling back the clock five six years ago
- 0:43Speaker 2: when we all had the concept of zoom cameras and
- 0:44Speaker 2: it's finally here at the fifty five KRC Morning Show Studios. Subtle,
- 0:48Speaker 2: veiled attack and biting the hand that feeds me. Indulged
- 0:50Speaker 2: me on that Colin anyway, pivoting over flock cameras. You
- 0:54Speaker 2: may have heard the top of the rd US net.
- 0:55Speaker 2: We got one more municipality banning flock. I get the
- 0:58Speaker 2: concerns and arguments. Being a civil libertarian, I like my privacy.
- 1:03Speaker 2: I don't like living in the Orwellian state we find
- 1:06Speaker 2: ourselves in. But part of me has to really kind
- 1:09Speaker 2: of default to isn't the genie really out of the
- 1:11Speaker 2: bottle on this? And the reason I say that is
- 1:14Speaker 2: you don't have to adopt a flock camera system in
- 1:16Speaker 2: your neighborhood, but we are literally surrounded by I think
- 1:19Speaker 2: all this is voluntary ring doorbell cameras, constantly recording everything.
- 1:24Speaker 2: And then the next phase of all this, and this
- 1:26Speaker 2: is a greater concern for me from a privacy standpoint.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Amazon is coming with drones to five hundred cities, ever
- 1:33Speaker 2: growing fleet of drones flying all around the place. Colin,
- 1:37Speaker 2: would it surprise you to know that maybe a camera
- 1:39Speaker 2: might be rounded on one of those drones and they
- 1:41Speaker 2: two would be recording literally everything. This is a private company.
- 1:45Speaker 2: We're not inviting them into the neighborhood. But next thing
- 1:47Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna look up and the sky is
- 1:49Speaker 2: gonna be filled with them.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Wrinkle problem, yeah, endless problems. You know what we're seeing, Brian,
- 1:59Speaker 1: is a struggle goal in technology. Lots of areas of
- 2:02Speaker 1: technology between potential public goods and this dystopian Orwellian nightmare.
- 2:10Speaker 1: You know what we've learned in the last ten years
- 2:14Speaker 1: as Orwell was really selling the surveillance state short. You know,
- 2:17Speaker 1: he had two waight cameras monitoring everyone. Everyone's spying on
- 2:21Speaker 1: each other man. That was rookie stuff, right, because what
- 2:26Speaker 1: you've perceptibly brought up is what we see private companies doing.
- 2:31Speaker 1: So lots of people love their Rumba vacuums, you know,
- 2:34Speaker 1: the automatic vacuum. But guess what the rumba is mapping
- 2:37Speaker 1: your house and sending that information to god knows where,
- 2:41Speaker 1: and that's going to be used against us. Amazon is
- 2:44Speaker 1: delivering packages. Part of how these autommatic packages are going
- 2:48Speaker 1: to be delivered is they took all these gig economy
- 2:51Speaker 1: drivers like Uber drivers and Uber eats and you know
- 2:55Speaker 1: so forth door Dash. They use them to map the
- 2:57Speaker 1: streets and figure out, oh, this guy's sidewalk is bumpy.
- 3:01Speaker 1: So the drone's going to struggle there, right, So you know,
- 3:06Speaker 1: you look at a technology like flock. Your audience, the
- 3:09Speaker 1: Brightbird audience. My main message is this is not a
- 3:13Speaker 1: black and white issue. You shouldn't be for them or
- 3:16Speaker 1: against them, because it's very complicated. Flock cameras solve terrible crimes.
- 3:23Speaker 1: When a murder happens in Cincinnati, we see them on
- 3:27Speaker 1: the show First forty eight. You know, actual murder investigations
- 3:30Speaker 1: when it happens in Chicago. These murders are dirty, messy
- 3:35Speaker 1: things that often happen at one in the morning, right
- 3:38Speaker 1: in neighborhoods where people don't talk to the police, So
- 3:42Speaker 1: where police might spend three weeks trying to find the
- 3:45Speaker 1: white car that drove by the murder scene at two am.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Now they turn the flock, So flock helps detective solve murders.
- 3:54Speaker 1: You know, you're being from the legal field. You're familiar
- 3:57Speaker 1: with the fact that there's lots of types of crimes
- 3:59Speaker 1: that hardly get investigated because a manpower. Right, So, you know,
- 4:04Speaker 1: those of us who have been blessed to not be
- 4:06Speaker 1: the victim of a significant crime, think, if someone steals
- 4:09Speaker 1: our car, you got like CSI out there with fingerprint
- 4:12Speaker 1: dust and all that kind of stuff. None of that happens,
- 4:15Speaker 1: they take a report and they say, okay, we'll look
- 4:16Speaker 1: for it. Flock helps solve those crimes because you're not
- 4:20Speaker 1: relying on a police seeing a white Toyota camry. They
- 4:23Speaker 1: see a thousand of those a day. Now, you know,
- 4:26Speaker 1: flock is saying, hey, look for this play right, that's
- 4:29Speaker 1: the pro side. The conside is we you know, there's
- 4:33Speaker 1: cops stocking ex boyfriends and ex girlfriends with this technology
- 4:37Speaker 1: for police officers, and Georgia just got arrested for it.
- 4:41Speaker 1: You know, we're reporting that today on by Bartech. You
- 4:45Speaker 1: see cops doing things. You know you've seen this a
- 4:49Speaker 1: million times in your legal career, Brian. We pass a
- 4:52Speaker 1: law for one reason that gets used for another reason,
- 4:54Speaker 1: Like the Patriot Act was to stop terrorism.
- 4:56Speaker 2: There you go, right, wait, gets used for the thing.
- 5:00Speaker 1: So flock cameras are being used. There was a case
- 5:03Speaker 1: in Wisconsin they were using flock cameras to see who
- 5:06Speaker 1: Drew drove across the Michigan border to buy legal weed
- 5:10Speaker 1: and then came back. And it's like, why are we
- 5:12Speaker 1: using tech for that instead of solving the murders? Right,
- 5:15Speaker 1: Because it's it's pitched to solve murders, it's used to
- 5:18Speaker 1: catch legal weed buyers. And then you know, my biggest issue,
- 5:23Speaker 1: and there's really two I want to touch on. My
- 5:26Speaker 1: biggest issue is that police need to do policing and
- 5:30Speaker 1: they can't rely on technology. We've had many cases where
- 5:35Speaker 1: there's misidentification through FLOCK or facial recognition with AI and
- 5:40Speaker 1: he just arrests someone and throw him in jail for
- 5:42Speaker 1: six months that if they did a traditional investigation, they
- 5:45Speaker 1: would say this person did not do this crime, right,
- 5:49Speaker 1: So it has to be a tool, not replacing the investigation.
- 5:53Speaker 2: I agree with you completely, But all the challenges, or
- 5:56Speaker 2: rather the problems you identify, the abuse of the system
- 5:58Speaker 2: by you know, ops that want to stalk their ex
- 6:01Speaker 2: girlfriends or ex wives or whatever. All the abuses, it
- 6:05Speaker 2: seems to me, could be solved by changes in policies
- 6:09Speaker 2: or practice. So you can create a system I suppose
- 6:14Speaker 2: where you know, perhaps like a two factor authentication. If
- 6:16Speaker 2: anybody's going to be searching the flock database, then they
- 6:19Speaker 2: must get the approval of a superior or whatever. I mean,
- 6:22Speaker 2: can you can put preventive measures in there?
- 6:25Speaker 1: Well, they're doing that now, Brian, Yeah, you know, there's
- 6:28Speaker 1: been a backlash Flock is coming out with these tools. Now,
- 6:32Speaker 1: Flock itself used very ominous language. I hope I don't
- 6:37Speaker 1: give you a medical emergency because of your civil libertarian tendencies. Right.
- 6:41Speaker 1: The Flock ceo and came out said we need to
- 6:43Speaker 1: compromise safety and privacy. When a CEO says that, that
- 6:48Speaker 1: means you're going to have no privacy and no safety typically, right,
- 6:52Speaker 1: and they're going to get a lot of money for it.
- 6:54Speaker 1: So that concerns me that he said that. But they
- 6:57Speaker 1: are working on those systems to prevent that abuse. That's
- 7:01Speaker 1: not a major problem. I do think there's a much
- 7:04Speaker 1: deeper problem, and it's what you identified, which is what
- 7:08Speaker 1: does flock do with this data? Will Flock do what
- 7:11Speaker 1: Silicon Valley typically does and turn around and try to
- 7:13Speaker 1: sell this to insurance companies? You know, Hey, Brian, you
- 7:16Speaker 1: told us you drive ten miles a day. Flock saw
- 7:20Speaker 1: you on the freeway. You know, are you lying to
- 7:22Speaker 1: us so we raise your rates? Will Flock try to
- 7:26Speaker 1: sell this data to employers? Hey, your employee was on
- 7:29Speaker 1: the highway? What were they doing there? Right? I have
- 7:32Speaker 1: a lot of concerns about that because that's what you
- 7:35Speaker 1: were getting at Yeah, Amazon takes the ring data and
- 7:38Speaker 1: we'll try to monetize it. Silicon Valley it loves monetizing
- 7:43Speaker 1: our data and including where we are and where we're driving.
- 7:46Speaker 2: And of course you know we have a text thing
- 7:47Speaker 2: when every week with Dave had It it talks about
- 7:49Speaker 2: the Internet of Things device is these free apps and
- 7:51Speaker 2: all they are is, oh, it's free, but they're hoovering
- 7:53Speaker 2: up your data. So we all have concerns about that.
- 7:56Speaker 2: The I guess the issue with them selling the data
- 7:59Speaker 2: since they're using the proceeds of taxpayer dollars as a
- 8:02Speaker 2: business model. Flock cameras are bought by municipalities. Of course
- 8:05Speaker 2: they're paid a service for it. I might I imagine
- 8:08Speaker 2: you could preempt that by having a contractual provision prohibiting
- 8:11Speaker 2: the sale of any data by Flock to any outside entity.
- 8:15Speaker 2: So there could be a measure in place. It's like,
- 8:17Speaker 2: you know, we're going to talk about AI data centers here.
- 8:19Speaker 2: If you're concerned about power, and that's the big concern
- 8:22Speaker 2: from the community. If you require the data center to
- 8:24Speaker 2: bring its own power or otherwise pay for the power
- 8:27Speaker 2: at you know, whatever rate, then you've got that problem
- 8:29Speaker 2: solved upfront. Are there enough fixes up front that people
- 8:34Speaker 2: might welcome Flock or is this really an Orwellian I
- 8:38Speaker 2: just don't want to be watched twenty four to seven,
- 8:41Speaker 2: which I'll go back to say, ignores the reality of
- 8:44Speaker 2: the ubiquitous nature of cameras. Literally everywhere you got one
- 8:48Speaker 2: in your pocket. I got one right here, Colin.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Yeah, you know there's a lot to process there, Brian,
- 8:56Speaker 1: But I think in one case, yes, we can solve
- 9:00Speaker 1: a lot of the problems through contracting. What we're seeing
- 9:03Speaker 1: is companies like Flock are much more sophisticated than a
- 9:06Speaker 1: lot of municipalities on contracts. So we're seeing lots of
- 9:10Speaker 1: fights going on. Knox County, I think that's in Tennessee
- 9:14Speaker 1: is just starting a fight with them where they're saying, hey,
- 9:16Speaker 1: the Sheriff's department bought some of your cameras, and you
- 9:19Speaker 1: use loopholes to get through our contract rules. So we're
- 9:22Speaker 1: shutting that down, you know. So that's where we are now.
- 9:25Speaker 1: There was a lot of loopholes exploited by companies. That's
- 9:29Speaker 1: what Silicon Valley loves to do, find the loopholes and
- 9:32Speaker 1: turn them into profit centers. So some of that's happening,
- 9:36Speaker 1: you know, I think what you're going to see is
- 9:39Speaker 1: there's proper applications of flock and there's improper. So if
- 9:43Speaker 1: you live in the idyllic suburb where there's been you know,
- 9:47Speaker 1: I'm thinking of Inverness, Illinois, there was one murder in
- 9:50Speaker 1: forty years, there's not a huge use case for flock cameras.
- 9:57Speaker 1: If you live in the areas of Cincinnati plagued by
- 10:01Speaker 1: serious violent crime, you should want flock cameras because they
- 10:07Speaker 1: solve crimes. They're an excellent you know another technology I'll
- 10:11Speaker 1: just throw at you, that's a big deal. Where I
- 10:13Speaker 1: live in the Chicago area, there's a technology called shot spotter. Yeah,
- 10:17Speaker 1: we uses Okay, Well, Chicago turned it off. They didn't
- 10:20Speaker 1: want to pay for it. They said it's not a
- 10:22Speaker 1: good deal. Consequently, you know, it turns out in Chicago,
- 10:26Speaker 1: partly because it's so common, people don't call nine one
- 10:28Speaker 1: one for gunshots. So shot spotter used to save lives
- 10:32Speaker 1: because it would tell the cops, hey, there was a
- 10:33Speaker 1: gun shot here. They would go find a guy bleeding
- 10:36Speaker 1: on the ground and take him to the hospital. Now
- 10:38Speaker 1: that guy's dead because no one calls nine to one one.
- 10:41Speaker 1: So like there's a balance shot spotter doesn't work in
- 10:45Speaker 1: my little leafy suburban neighborhood of Lake Zurich, Illinois. It
- 10:49Speaker 1: works in Chicago. Flock, I would argue, is the same thing.
- 10:53Speaker 2: Yes, having lived in Chicago, I understand being desensitized the
- 10:56Speaker 2: gunfire and that's a problem city of Cincinnati too. But
- 10:59Speaker 2: the odd thing about the shots about are being shut
- 11:01Speaker 2: off or rejected by the community or the community officials.
- 11:04Speaker 2: It doesn't record individually identifiable data. It just lets you
- 11:09Speaker 2: know where the damn gun went off. That seems to
- 11:10Speaker 2: be a very valuable piece of information for the police department,
- 11:13Speaker 2: especially in high crime neighborhoods. I think the nefarious element
- 11:16Speaker 2: behind that is it tends to statistically identify the troubled
- 11:20Speaker 2: neighborhoods because the number of shots that went off in
- 11:22Speaker 2: any given area.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very similar to the huge debate over police
- 11:27Speaker 1: body cameras. Civil rights activists argued for years when need
- 11:31Speaker 1: body cameras. Once they started seeing the body cam videos,
- 11:33Speaker 1: they said, turn off the body gear.
- 11:35Speaker 2: I know it worked to help the police departments more
- 11:38Speaker 2: than the community that was claiming they were being victims
- 11:40Speaker 2: of police brutality. Pitvting over to sort of a comparable issue,
- 11:44Speaker 2: you know, and I guess the same question can apply
- 11:46Speaker 2: with AI. Are with flock? Are the people that are
- 11:50Speaker 2: going to council meetings and protesting flock cameras and engaging
- 11:54Speaker 2: all that to activity. Are they a squeaky wheel that's
- 11:57Speaker 2: getting the attention or do they really represent the majority
- 11:59Speaker 2: opinion that allows me to ask sort of the same
- 12:01Speaker 2: question about AI. The elephant in the room for me
- 12:04Speaker 2: with AI is, you know, we need to get control
- 12:06Speaker 2: of this technology. We need to be the dominant force
- 12:09Speaker 2: in the globe. So it's out there, the genies out
- 12:13Speaker 2: of the bottle, It's not going away. It's a question
- 12:15Speaker 2: of whether we control the future of it, which requires
- 12:18Speaker 2: data centers. So all the screaming and the knowing about
- 12:21Speaker 2: data centers seems to be predicated on power consumption and noise.
- 12:25Speaker 2: But I think it's more about what AI does, the
- 12:29Speaker 2: threat of eliminating jobs, the creepy ways in which it
- 12:32Speaker 2: can tell you how to build a dirty bomb or
- 12:35Speaker 2: how to hack into a computer system. Ai'll do it
- 12:37Speaker 2: for you, now we can't. I mean, those are looming
- 12:40Speaker 2: questions that are going to exist whether or not we
- 12:41Speaker 2: got an AI center in our backyard or not right, Colin.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Yes, you know, I'm more mixed on this than perhaps
- 12:49Speaker 1: the way you look at it, Brian, And so you know,
- 12:52Speaker 1: here's where I come from. First of all, the AI
- 12:57Speaker 1: data center rollout is a absolute legendary failure of marketing
- 13:03Speaker 1: and messaging by Silicon valid Okay, let's be clear about that.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Silicon Valley approach it the way they do, which is,
- 13:10Speaker 1: we are the elites. You are the peasants. You will
- 13:12Speaker 1: do what we tell you, and this is good for you.
- 13:15Speaker 1: And America revolted against that, you know, across the country.
- 13:19Speaker 1: This has become a elite versus everyone else issue. Now,
- 13:24Speaker 1: you know, the way I look at it is Silicon
- 13:29Speaker 1: Valley wants to pitch this as a positive, Okay. They
- 13:35Speaker 1: want to say, we need this to be China. Okay.
- 13:37Speaker 1: So my response to Silicon Valley is, why are you
- 13:40Speaker 1: the power players of AI right now embracing Chinese AI.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Almost every company you can rattle off that's not a
- 13:49Speaker 1: direct AI company like Open Ai or Anthropic is powering
- 13:54Speaker 1: their systems using Chinese AI. Why are they doing that?
- 13:57Speaker 1: If we have to win the AI race? That seems
- 14:00Speaker 1: kind of like Pearl Harbor, you know, stocking Japanese boats
- 14:03Speaker 1: or something doesn't quite make sense. The data center fight
- 14:08Speaker 1: is primarily, in my opinion, driven by how these things
- 14:13Speaker 1: came about. You don't see companies coming to communities saying
- 14:18Speaker 1: we want to build this and here's why it's good
- 14:19Speaker 1: for you. We see them going to local governments signing
- 14:23Speaker 1: NDA's creating shell companies to buy land, so you don't
- 14:26Speaker 1: know it's Meta or whatever big company, and and then
- 14:31Speaker 1: you know it's the way they use the resources. So
- 14:34Speaker 1: I was jokingly made the example yesterday of when you
- 14:37Speaker 1: read Frankenstein. You know, doctor Frankenstein wants to make his monster.
- 14:42Speaker 1: He doesn't hook up to the town's electric grid, and
- 14:45Speaker 1: you know, all the lights go out so he can
- 14:46Speaker 1: make his monster. He creates his own generators, and he
- 14:49Speaker 1: has a lightning poll number, he flips, a monster comes alive.
- 14:53Speaker 1: That's not what AI does. They just steal everyone else's power,
- 14:56Speaker 1: right and say good luck with your grid. So you
- 15:00Speaker 1: know what I would have done if I were them
- 15:03Speaker 1: and they're going to try to do now, is say, hey,
- 15:06Speaker 1: you know, first of all, we're not I would not
- 15:09Speaker 1: drop data centers in suburban neighborhoods because it's cheaper to
- 15:13Speaker 1: do that because if you you know, if you bought,
- 15:16Speaker 1: if you made it in life, you work through your career,
- 15:19Speaker 1: you bought that the excellent mansion in the suburbs of Georgia.
- 15:23Speaker 1: You don't want to wake up one day and your
- 15:24Speaker 1: water pressure is almost nothing because they build a data
- 15:27Speaker 1: center down the street and your water's gone. Absolutely you
- 15:32Speaker 1: That's sort of the contract in America. The social contract
- 15:35Speaker 1: is if we build a suburban house, we won't live
- 15:38Speaker 1: next to the data center.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Well, but I think the concerns you expressed there, I
- 15:42Speaker 2: mean v bag Romis when we running for government of
- 15:44Speaker 2: State of Ohio is sort of address this head on.
- 15:46Speaker 2: If a data center comes, it must bring its own power,
- 15:49Speaker 2: It must address the water water needs. We have closed
- 15:51Speaker 2: loop systems to cool the plants. They don't use a
- 15:54Speaker 2: lot of water. It's like the radiators in our car.
- 15:56Speaker 2: You don't have to suck up an abundance of resource.
- 15:59Speaker 2: There are techno logical workarounds to most of the problems
- 16:02Speaker 2: that have been articulated up front. We're just throwing worse
- 16:04Speaker 2: nightmare in terms of power generation. I'm a huge fan.
- 16:07Speaker 2: Here I go again, my listeners, Here he goes small,
- 16:09Speaker 2: modular reactors small the size of a small shipping container.
- 16:12Speaker 2: These are multi billionaire company, billion dollar companies. If we
- 16:16Speaker 2: just got out of the regulatory hurdle, allow them to
- 16:19Speaker 2: bring their own power, it could be that a neighborhood
- 16:21Speaker 2: benefits from lower cost electricity because they're producing more than
- 16:24Speaker 2: they need.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Colin. That would be great, but it had that's not
- 16:28Speaker 1: the course they chose. They chose in the suburbs, right.
- 16:32Speaker 1: So what we're talking about, we're not only talking about
- 16:35Speaker 1: how to do it right, which is what you're describing, right,
- 16:38Speaker 1: but we're trying. We're talking about how to undo some
- 16:40Speaker 1: of this damage, you know, and they're still addicted to
- 16:44Speaker 1: the free money. So we just reported at bright Bart
- 16:47Speaker 1: yesterday they want to put these data centers. There's a
- 16:50Speaker 1: number of data centers close to a Haair Airport in Chicago.
- 16:52Speaker 1: They want to put more. They're giving a massive tax break. Yeah,
- 16:56Speaker 1: so the homeowners will pay more taxes. So what we're
- 17:00Speaker 1: saying is, here's these in some cases trillion dollar companies,
- 17:03Speaker 1: but I need to pay for them, and my power
- 17:06Speaker 1: is screwed up, no water, screwed up, No thank you.
- 17:08Speaker 2: That is a recipe for disaster right there. Of course,
- 17:13Speaker 2: they'll be feeling that in Chicago at some point. Can't
- 17:15Speaker 2: come fast enough. Tech editor from Breitbart, It's the Inside
- 17:18Speaker 2: Scoop Day. Breitbart Inside Scoops Tech editor Colin Maydine on
- 17:20Speaker 2: the program today. Love It's gonna be on the podcast
- 17:23Speaker 2: page fifty five care see dot iHeart dot com.
- 17:25Speaker 1: Colin.
- 17:25Speaker 2: I'll look forward to talking with you real soon. Keep
- 17:27Speaker 2: up the great work, and hello to all the crew
- 17:28Speaker 2: at Breitbart.
- 17:30Speaker 1: All right, thanks guys.
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