Latest / Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler / Related feat. Roy Handler
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I do have some very exciting news that I will
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- 0:16Speaker 1: I said that like a radio host, to ten AM
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- 0:26Speaker 1: So get your tickets to that, and then if you
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- 0:32Speaker 1: Barbara Bowl August one, and then there's a San Diego
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- 0:38Speaker 1: get your podcast slash tickets, Live Nation dot com, Chelsea
- 0:42Speaker 1: Handler dot com, ticket Master, any of those places. So
- 0:45Speaker 1: I will see you all this summer. Okay, Well, welcome
- 0:48Speaker 1: to our show today. I'm very excited about today's topic
- 0:51Speaker 1: of conversation because our theme today is siblings, and we
- 0:55Speaker 1: have one of my brothers calling in which I cannot
- 0:57Speaker 1: wait for you to hear. I'm very excited for that. Yes,
- 1:01Speaker 1: I love sibling dynamics. You have siblings as well, and yes,
- 1:05Speaker 1: I come from a family of six, and there's always
- 1:08Speaker 1: one that's a big hot mess. Well, or it could
- 1:11Speaker 1: be your parents, right, one out of all of them.
- 1:13Speaker 1: And then sometimes some families have multiple hot nurses. I
- 1:17Speaker 1: heard an interesting theory the other day. My sister was
- 1:19Speaker 1: telling me about there is scientific data to show that
- 1:24Speaker 1: when you have two children of the same sex, the
- 1:26Speaker 1: third child, your body biologically wants to produce one of
- 1:30Speaker 1: the opposite sex. So that's why the third is always
- 1:33Speaker 1: a tomboy. If she has two older brothers, or if
- 1:36Speaker 1: it's a younger boy, why he may be more feminine
- 1:39Speaker 1: than his brothers because your body theoretically is preparing for
- 1:43Speaker 1: the opposite sex. And I said, are there studies on that?
- 1:46Speaker 1: And she goes, oh, yeah, yeah, like it's in the ziteguys.
- 1:51Speaker 1: My family on my dad's side, all of the men
- 1:53Speaker 1: had one son followed by two daughters. All of the
- 1:56Speaker 1: siblings same pattern. That's strange, like sort biology is that, Yeah,
- 2:02Speaker 1: it does make sense that your body would try to prepare.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Like you know, a lot of people have three boys
- 2:06Speaker 1: and then they go for another one, you know, and
- 2:08Speaker 1: then they get the girl. Or some people have three
- 2:11Speaker 1: they're waiting for the girl, and they're pissed. I remember
- 2:13Speaker 1: my friend was so pissed when she found out she
- 2:15Speaker 1: was having a baby boy, and I was like, oh
- 2:17Speaker 1: my god, that is so terrible. Like and then of
- 2:21Speaker 1: course you have them and you love them, and you
- 2:24Speaker 1: can't even imagine it being any other child, boy, girl,
- 2:28Speaker 1: you know whatever. My sister she had three boys and
- 2:32Speaker 1: she was so desperate for a girl, and luckily she
- 2:34Speaker 1: got it on the fourth tribe. But then there was
- 2:36Speaker 1: another family right in town that woman has had. I
- 2:38Speaker 1: think it's ten or eleven children, always trying for a girl,
- 2:42Speaker 1: all boys so icky, ten or eleven berths out. They
- 2:48Speaker 1: have to drive a passenger van. Just to put things
- 2:50Speaker 1: into a very clear picture for you, what it looks
- 2:52Speaker 1: like to put her stomach in there. That's where the
- 2:55Speaker 1: passenger van has to go. She's probably spent more time
- 2:57Speaker 1: pregnan than she has, not that a doubt. Yeah, that's
- 3:01Speaker 1: so much. It's so unfair what women have to go through.
- 3:03Speaker 1: It really is. I can't wait until we can figure
- 3:05Speaker 1: out away from men to have babies, you know, let
- 3:08Speaker 1: them do it all, let them take that over. The
- 3:11Speaker 1: closest thing I could come to talking about or relating
- 3:14Speaker 1: to children is you know, obviously my own experience with parenting,
- 3:17Speaker 1: which is Bernie's Tammy and Chunk and Gary wherever he
- 3:23Speaker 1: may be. Gary, in case people don't know, Gary was
- 3:25Speaker 1: a dog that you had for a short period of time.
- 3:27Speaker 1: It was a Bernie's Mountain dog that you really wanted
- 3:30Speaker 1: and then you got and did he run away? He
- 3:32Speaker 1: was my only non rescue dog. And yeah, supposedly he
- 3:36Speaker 1: ran away, but that is hard to believe but also believable.
- 3:40Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. What happened really, and I
- 3:43Speaker 1: won't ever buy a dog again, first of all, because
- 3:46Speaker 1: we just did not mash you know, rescue dogs. There's
- 3:48Speaker 1: a purpose in it. It feels so purposeful. You know,
- 3:51Speaker 1: you can't just love a breed so well. You can,
- 3:53Speaker 1: but I don't want to just love a breed so
- 3:55Speaker 1: much and get that breed only then then then that's favoritism.
- 3:59Speaker 1: And I want my ldren all to feel equally. But
- 4:01Speaker 1: I have to tell you that Bert is my favorite
- 4:03Speaker 1: because of his body. I try to give Bernice the attention,
- 4:06Speaker 1: you know, to make up for the attention I give Bert,
- 4:08Speaker 1: but she's just not as receptive. And it's just not
- 4:10Speaker 1: the same thing as an independent woman. And she knows
- 4:12Speaker 1: that he's the favorite, and she has an attitude and
- 4:15Speaker 1: I get it. I like boy dogs, I think better
- 4:18Speaker 1: than girl dogs because of the two girl dogs I've
- 4:21Speaker 1: had have been very distant and the Tammy and Bernice
- 4:25Speaker 1: both had very similar personalities and that maybe because they
- 4:28Speaker 1: were part chow or they are. See and I don't
- 4:31Speaker 1: like a boy dog. I mean, I love any animal,
- 4:34Speaker 1: but I do not like to see. Well. Bert doesn't
- 4:35Speaker 1: like you, I know, and I'm the one who went
- 4:38Speaker 1: and rescued him. So I don't know how that happened
- 4:41Speaker 1: that Ben Bruno and I rescued him. Origin the o
- 4:46Speaker 1: G rescue was Ben Bruno and me, So technically Ben
- 4:49Speaker 1: Bruno is their father, no wonder he hates Ben Bruno, Yeah, right, exactly.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Bert doesn't really like men. I don't know where he
- 4:55Speaker 1: gets that from. Well, and speaking of sibling dynamics, that
- 4:58Speaker 1: is Burton Bernice. They are their sister. They are from
- 5:01Speaker 1: the same amniotic sack everybody. They came from the same litter.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Bert and Bernice. Yes, and those were their birth names.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Just so you know, I didn't even name them that
- 5:10Speaker 1: that was just good fortune on my end. So when
- 5:13Speaker 1: he rounded that, I'll never forget the day that Burt
- 5:15Speaker 1: rounded the corner and I saw his ass before I
- 5:18Speaker 1: saw his face because it was bigger and it was
- 5:20Speaker 1: it was like an elephant coming towards me slowly. That
- 5:24Speaker 1: was furry, and I couldn't believe it. I was like,
- 5:26Speaker 1: holy fuck, this is my day. All right. Well, we
- 5:30Speaker 1: have a lot to get into in regards to siblings,
- 5:32Speaker 1: so don't we take a quick break. We'll come back.
- 5:34Speaker 1: I love using Bert and Bernice as a jumping off
- 5:36Speaker 1: point for siblings. They are the dynamic duo. We'll be back. Well,
- 5:43Speaker 1: our first emission comes from Hallie. Hi, Chelsea, my name
- 5:48Speaker 1: is Hallie and I live in Boise, Idaho. I've been
- 5:51Speaker 1: a fan for such a long time, and I know
- 5:54Speaker 1: you have a really good relationship with your siblings, So
- 5:57Speaker 1: I was wondering, how do you keep that relationship with
- 6:00Speaker 1: them so strong because my relationship with my siblings is
- 6:04Speaker 1: not the greatest. Well, I would just say, listen, I
- 6:07Speaker 1: know sibling dynamics can be very very challenging and difficult
- 6:10Speaker 1: and complicated because there's a lot of like injury that
- 6:13Speaker 1: nobody even knows about, Like people aren't even addressing it.
- 6:16Speaker 1: So you're like holding grudges from a million different things
- 6:19Speaker 1: that happened in your childhood. And I would just say
- 6:21Speaker 1: to exercise a good communication with them, like just keep
- 6:25Speaker 1: in touch, even if you're not necessarily getting what you
- 6:28Speaker 1: want back in that relationship, just keep the dialogue going
- 6:32Speaker 1: because people ebb and flow and go through things where
- 6:35Speaker 1: they'll need your support or you'll need theirs, And because
- 6:38Speaker 1: that line of communication is already open, you'll be able
- 6:41Speaker 1: to lean on each other in those times, which will
- 6:43Speaker 1: bring you closer. And you know, you can just be
- 6:46Speaker 1: consistent in your communication and that usually will help cultivate
- 6:51Speaker 1: a better, stronger relationship. You know, as long as you're
- 6:54Speaker 1: constantly communicating. So and think of being the bigger person
- 6:57Speaker 1: and being like, you know, I'm just gonna put myself
- 7:00Speaker 1: out there and let them know this line of communication
- 7:02Speaker 1: is open. What do you think I was gonna say
- 7:04Speaker 1: the exact same thing. Consistent communication. And the thing I
- 7:07Speaker 1: found with my siblings is finding ways that they prefer
- 7:11Speaker 1: to communicate. So my one sister, she likes to FaceTime.
- 7:13Speaker 1: My other sister is much more of a texter. My
- 7:16Speaker 1: other sister prefers a call like right when she gets
- 7:18Speaker 1: to work in the morning. So again like kind of
- 7:20Speaker 1: finding the tempo and ways to communicate based on preference
- 7:24Speaker 1: or where you know that you'll be able to have
- 7:26Speaker 1: an in depth conversation and taking the time to really ask,
- 7:29Speaker 1: you know, thoughtful questions, not just how how's your day going,
- 7:32Speaker 1: you know, like how are the kids, what are they doing,
- 7:34Speaker 1: what are they learning in school? Ship I don't really
- 7:36Speaker 1: care about, per se, but that she does care about
- 7:39Speaker 1: because you know, when they have kids, that's where all
- 7:40Speaker 1: of their energies going. So yeah, I think you just
- 7:43Speaker 1: have to make consistent communication a priority. Yeah, I think
- 7:47Speaker 1: that's pretty obvious. So there you go. Problem solved. Tale
- 7:50Speaker 1: The next one we do have on the line. Her
- 7:52Speaker 1: name is Andrea. She's from Ontario. She's in her thirties,
- 7:56Speaker 1: and she writes, Dear Chelsea, this is literally the biggest
- 7:59Speaker 1: decision of my life. My sister, who has Down syndrome,
- 8:02Speaker 1: was visiting me at the end of February. So just
- 8:05Speaker 1: for context, remember the beginning of the pandemic, so February,
- 8:09Speaker 1: because we had a grant to make a little film
- 8:11Speaker 1: about her. Then everything blew up in the week. Trip
- 8:14Speaker 1: has surpassed a year our mom passed away from brain
- 8:17Speaker 1: cancer eight years ago, and Adele, my sister, moved into
- 8:20Speaker 1: her own apartment in a group home, but due to
- 8:22Speaker 1: the pandemic, all of her programs in Ontario have been canceled.
- 8:26Speaker 1: I kept her with me and enrolled her in Whistler
- 8:28Speaker 1: Adaptive and now she doesn't want to leave. Every day
- 8:31Speaker 1: I ask myself, how can I live with this little
- 8:34Speaker 1: lady for the rest of my life? But also how
- 8:37Speaker 1: can I not live with her for the rest of
- 8:38Speaker 1: my life. I like to move freely through the world,
- 8:41Speaker 1: and I'm having a hard time trying to figure out
- 8:43Speaker 1: how I'm supposed to do that. I know family is
- 8:45Speaker 1: very important to you. What do you think, Andrea, Hi, Andrea, Hello.
- 8:52Speaker 1: That sounds like yeah, that is a big life decision totally.
- 8:54Speaker 1: So what's the status Like if you can have your
- 8:57Speaker 1: sister what's her name, if you can have a dell
- 9:00Speaker 1: live with you, is there a way for you to
- 9:03Speaker 1: continue to have some help with that? Yeah? For sure.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Like I have a big community where from Ontario though,
- 9:09Speaker 1: so our whole, like my entire extended family is in
- 9:12Speaker 1: Ontario and then here it's just the two of us.
- 9:15Speaker 1: And with the program that she's in. Are they able
- 9:17Speaker 1: to help in any way for like vacation care or
- 9:21Speaker 1: if you wanted to get out and go do something.
- 9:23Speaker 1: I imagine it's kind of all day every day, But
- 9:26Speaker 1: for the times you wanted to get out and go
- 9:27Speaker 1: do something, what is the restriction on your life with
- 9:29Speaker 1: her being there with you? Um, that part's okay, Like
- 9:33Speaker 1: she's she's pretty high functioning, Like I can leave her
- 9:35Speaker 1: and two days ago I left her for twelve hours,
- 9:37Speaker 1: Like as long as she has food, she's good. I
- 9:39Speaker 1: guess it's just like honestly, the originally the biggest issue
- 9:44Speaker 1: I had was I was really scared. I kind of
- 9:47Speaker 1: feel emotional saying it, like I'm scared I was going
- 9:49Speaker 1: to die and and I'd be the only thing she
- 9:52Speaker 1: has out here. And right now in Ontario, she's like
- 9:55Speaker 1: in the system, she's really well cared for, and I
- 9:58Speaker 1: just felt scared of taking on that responsibility like for
- 10:02Speaker 1: the rest of my life. Yeah, no, it is emotional,
- 10:06Speaker 1: But I think did I hear you when you said
- 10:07Speaker 1: Ontario cut all her programs? Right? Yeah? Like right now
- 10:11Speaker 1: this is the best place for her in the sense
- 10:14Speaker 1: that like she lives in her own apartment in a
- 10:17Speaker 1: group home, but because of COVID, she's not going to
- 10:20Speaker 1: the adult learning center, she's not engaging with people. She
- 10:22Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to see any family members or
- 10:25Speaker 1: the only window in the last three teen months she
- 10:27Speaker 1: would have been able to see family members was for
- 10:29Speaker 1: like a month last summer and they weren't even allowed
- 10:32Speaker 1: to like hug. So like like right now, I'm good.
- 10:35Speaker 1: I'm just thinking long term what to do, because it's
- 10:39Speaker 1: like she's my best friend, you know, and I look
- 10:42Speaker 1: at her and like my heart explodes, like every day
- 10:45Speaker 1: we just my brother and I bought her a champoline
- 10:47Speaker 1: for her birthday and gave it to her early. And
- 10:49Speaker 1: I've never seen anybody like when she's honest she sounds
- 10:53Speaker 1: like like a giggling dolphin, like she's just can't control herself.
- 10:57Speaker 1: But then she's just shaking her hands and like just
- 10:59Speaker 1: can't contain herself, and she's funny and she's like a
- 11:03Speaker 1: little boss. It's I'm just I was thinking about it
- 11:07Speaker 1: the like two nights ago, thinking about you, and honestly,
- 11:10Speaker 1: it's like death. I'm like, I'm scared that I might die,
- 11:12Speaker 1: and I'm scared she might die. Because we both watched
- 11:14Speaker 1: that with my mom, and my mom was like her
- 11:17Speaker 1: big caregiver. Do you feel like you are able to
- 11:20Speaker 1: incorporate her in your life though, where you still have
- 11:22Speaker 1: a life, because this is I think a common issue
- 11:25Speaker 1: my partner is going through, like his mom is going
- 11:27Speaker 1: through this with having to move his grandma because she
- 11:29Speaker 1: has dementia. And the biggest thing is are you still
- 11:32Speaker 1: able to live your life without giving yours up for
- 11:35Speaker 1: someone else's? I think now like we found our rhythm
- 11:39Speaker 1: for sure. In the beginning, it was so hard anyways
- 11:42Speaker 1: because COVID was so scary and unknown, And now it's
- 11:46Speaker 1: been thirteen months, we've got our our flow and yeah,
- 11:50Speaker 1: and can I ask are you a partner? Do you
- 11:52Speaker 1: have husband? Wife? Happily divorced? Okay, well, that's good. I'm
- 11:57Speaker 1: glad you got that out of the way. It's best
- 12:00Speaker 1: you have you with the rest of your life to
- 12:01Speaker 1: live alone, which is really where you're gonna I have
- 12:04Speaker 1: a question though, so isn't it something that you can
- 12:06Speaker 1: take on, like, you know, like a six month by
- 12:08Speaker 1: six month basis if the programs are closed in Ontario. Oh,
- 12:12Speaker 1: so you're talking about just extricating her from Ontario for
- 12:15Speaker 1: good and not even going back to that program ever
- 12:18Speaker 1: when it reopens. Yeah, oh, I see, okay, because right
- 12:21Speaker 1: now her life is preserved, right like her apartments there,
- 12:24Speaker 1: all the programs, like she's in the system. Everything's good,
- 12:26Speaker 1: everyone's happy. She's here with me. But it's you know,
- 12:29Speaker 1: when the pandemic ends, and I think about it every day. Yeah, right,
- 12:35Speaker 1: And what is the downside of when the pandemic ends
- 12:38Speaker 1: and there and her programs are back in place and
- 12:40Speaker 1: she's got it all dialed in in Ontario with your
- 12:42Speaker 1: extended family. What's the downside of having her go back
- 12:45Speaker 1: there and you're visiting her regularly. She doesn't want to
- 12:48Speaker 1: go back. She wants to live with me. Yeah, And
- 12:51Speaker 1: she's she is thriving, and she's happy, and she definitely
- 12:55Speaker 1: gives more to my life than she takes. But it's
- 12:58Speaker 1: just also I guess, just being divorced, like it's like
- 13:00Speaker 1: this is the biggest commitment there is because it is forever,
- 13:03Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't be able to just take her on
- 13:05Speaker 1: and then six months later put her through all that
- 13:07Speaker 1: trauma and stuff. And then I also she talks about
- 13:11Speaker 1: how she wants to be in VC all the time.
- 13:12Speaker 1: And I heard her telling someone that we're going to
- 13:15Speaker 1: go back to Ontario student pack up all her stuff
- 13:18Speaker 1: and then bring her back. And you know, and I'm
- 13:21Speaker 1: like like, and I don't talk about it ever because
- 13:23Speaker 1: I don't want her to have false hope or not.
- 13:26Speaker 1: But yeah, well, it sounds like you have a really
- 13:28Speaker 1: beautiful relationship with your sister, and like, I totally get it.
- 13:32Speaker 1: I would do it because I would be like, how
- 13:34Speaker 1: could I not do it? You know, I get what
- 13:35Speaker 1: you're saying about that. So it does sound like though,
- 13:38Speaker 1: that she adds so much to your life and you
- 13:40Speaker 1: love her so much. I mean, think about what you
- 13:41Speaker 1: were just describing, Like watching her on the trampoline, Like
- 13:44Speaker 1: that is joy and like the meaning of life, right,
- 13:46Speaker 1: that is it to see somebody in that kind of
- 13:49Speaker 1: space and to get to experience that on the regular.
- 13:52Speaker 1: I think it adds to your life more than it
- 13:54Speaker 1: takes away. Yeah, I guess I have a fear of commitment,
- 13:58Speaker 1: you know, right, I get that I have that too,
- 14:00Speaker 1: I understand. Just remember everything has been magnified in the
- 14:03Speaker 1: last year, Like everything feels a bit more intense because
- 14:06Speaker 1: of what we're going through collectively. So you've said that
- 14:09Speaker 1: you've kind of found your footing and in your routine
- 14:11Speaker 1: with her. And I think that's only going to get
- 14:13Speaker 1: easier the longer that she's there, and that you'll just
- 14:16Speaker 1: find more ways to incorporate and have your own space
- 14:19Speaker 1: mentally and physically for yourself where she is not a burden,
- 14:24Speaker 1: where she's incorporated. And you said yourself, like, she adds
- 14:26Speaker 1: so much. I think that will only continue. I do,
- 14:31Speaker 1: and part of me is like, am I just completely selfish?
- 14:33Speaker 1: And if I wasn't where I lived like I us,
- 14:36Speaker 1: another country at different culture, it wouldn't even be a question,
- 14:39Speaker 1: you know, like she would just live with me. But
- 14:40Speaker 1: it's also okay to have those thoughts and feelings and
- 14:44Speaker 1: want to figure that out because your person and you're
- 14:46Speaker 1: entitled to have those are emotions, Like you can't help
- 14:49Speaker 1: the fact that you're having feelings or thoughts like, yes,
- 14:52Speaker 1: everyone has a desire to be selfish. I mean, that's
- 14:54Speaker 1: not something you can beat yourself up for your at
- 14:56Speaker 1: least being honest about it, which is a lot healthier
- 14:58Speaker 1: than being in den The worst thing you could do
- 15:01Speaker 1: for Adele would be not thinking about yourself and just
- 15:04Speaker 1: leaning in and doing it, because that's a good one.
- 15:06Speaker 1: Brandon That is good because it's because then months later
- 15:09Speaker 1: you build resentment. You really should have taken more time
- 15:12Speaker 1: to think about it. So the fact that you're doing
- 15:14Speaker 1: this now before making the commitment, it's just going to
- 15:17Speaker 1: set you both up for success. And I think her
- 15:20Speaker 1: being there and vocalizing to you like I don't want
- 15:23Speaker 1: to leave, that's definitely something to take into consideration. But
- 15:26Speaker 1: then having to think for her where is going to
- 15:29Speaker 1: be the best place for you long term? Like that's
- 15:31Speaker 1: also that is sadly your burden and responsibility. That may
- 15:35Speaker 1: not be the result she wants, but ultimately you know,
- 15:37Speaker 1: because you're operating in her best interest, that maybe Ontario
- 15:40Speaker 1: is the best place for her. And again, it would
- 15:43Speaker 1: be a hard conversation, but you're going through all that
- 15:45Speaker 1: right now, so it's going to take a little time
- 15:47Speaker 1: for you to really hone in on what that looks
- 15:49Speaker 1: like for you both. Yes, when do you want to
- 15:51Speaker 1: make a decision by I don't know, Like I was
- 15:54Speaker 1: going to bring her back last ball and then everything
- 15:56Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, nothing's really changed, So I
- 15:59Speaker 1: feel like I'm you know, I've taken her on to
- 16:01Speaker 1: take care of her for this time, so I have
- 16:02Speaker 1: to commit to that. I also feel like right now,
- 16:06Speaker 1: like I can't really go anywhere. So it works really well.
- 16:09Speaker 1: And and that's the thing, like maybe when the restrictions go,
- 16:11Speaker 1: I don't know if it looks like she goes back
- 16:14Speaker 1: for a few months to see how we both actually
- 16:16Speaker 1: really feel and then kind of come back have a
- 16:19Speaker 1: healthy break. That sounds like a very reasonable option and
- 16:22Speaker 1: is not a conversation you could have with her and
- 16:24Speaker 1: that she would understand and accept. I've been trying to
- 16:29Speaker 1: just position it to her that she does like live
- 16:31Speaker 1: in Ontario and like I would never say this is
- 16:35Speaker 1: a trial for you going back. Usually she fights me
- 16:37Speaker 1: on it, and then like a few days later she'll
- 16:39Speaker 1: walk around my house and she'll be like, oh, I
- 16:41Speaker 1: need this pencil when I go back to Ontario. So
- 16:43Speaker 1: she she does get it, and she's, yeah, I think
- 16:47Speaker 1: that would be the best option, would be to obviously
- 16:49Speaker 1: take a little space break and then I bet you
- 16:52Speaker 1: you'd really miss her. Yeah. I look at her like
- 16:55Speaker 1: in my heart explodes and I miss her like in
- 16:57Speaker 1: that second knowing, you know, and it's it is that
- 17:00Speaker 1: pure joy, but it's also like just like that unconditional
- 17:04Speaker 1: love and like I wish I could have as much
- 17:06Speaker 1: compassionate for myself as I do for her. Right, well,
- 17:09Speaker 1: it seems like you have your decision made. It's just
- 17:11Speaker 1: gonna take you some time to reconcile it because seemingly
- 17:14Speaker 1: she's not going anywhere, and even if she does, she'll
- 17:16Speaker 1: be back. So I think it's just gonna take a
- 17:18Speaker 1: little time for you to accept that that this is
- 17:20Speaker 1: your new life circumstance, and that's okay. Yeah, yeah. There
- 17:25Speaker 1: is a really incredible bond between sisters though, so I
- 17:28Speaker 1: you know, I know what you're talking about, Okay, But
- 17:31Speaker 1: then part of me is like, will I ever date
- 17:34Speaker 1: again or will we just be too middle aged women
- 17:36Speaker 1: living together for the rest of our question That comes
- 17:38Speaker 1: up with me and my sister quite frequently as well,
- 17:40Speaker 1: so that's a common theme among sisters. I'm going to
- 17:43Speaker 1: tell her the same thing. I'm gonna tell her the
- 17:45Speaker 1: same thing I tell you, No, you're not going to
- 17:47Speaker 1: be alone forever, and it'll speak volumes of whatever person
- 17:50Speaker 1: you end up with that knows like this is part
- 17:52Speaker 1: of my life, and this is like a part of
- 17:54Speaker 1: my life that I love and the reason why they're
- 17:56Speaker 1: going to be drawn to you in the first place,
- 17:58Speaker 1: you know, because you've taken this on and then you're
- 18:00Speaker 1: creating a whole, this great non traditional family, you know,
- 18:04Speaker 1: Like that's fun and modern and cool and compassionate. What
- 18:07Speaker 1: Adele will bring to that person's life, like this is
- 18:10Speaker 1: all part of it. It's the mix of like personalities
- 18:12Speaker 1: and love and affection that you'll have with whatever person
- 18:16Speaker 1: you end up with next. Who will see that in her?
- 18:18Speaker 1: And like I want that in my life as well,
- 18:19Speaker 1: Like look what she can bring to me. Yeah, I
- 18:22Speaker 1: wouldn't worry about that. Yeah, Okay. She's funny, though she's
- 18:27Speaker 1: like a bit manipulative, Like she's like you can't eat anyone.
- 18:30Speaker 1: She's like, you're you're with me? How old is Adele?
- 18:34Speaker 1: And a lot of her she's like an eight year old.
- 18:37Speaker 1: A lot of her she's like a sixty year old.
- 18:39Speaker 1: That sounds like me. Yeah. Yeah, she's amazing for sure,
- 18:44Speaker 1: and she's hilarious. Send us a picture of the two
- 18:46Speaker 1: of you together, will you like to say? I'll send
- 18:49Speaker 1: a video of on the trampoline. Yeah, if we love
- 18:55Speaker 1: that and let us know what you end up doing.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Please Okay, all right, well, thank you, thank you? All right,
- 19:01Speaker 1: nice to speak to you Andrea you too. Definitely probably
- 19:05Speaker 1: the most serious. Yeah, but very rational and so cute.
- 19:10Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely a complicated situation to be in.
- 19:13Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do in that circumstance,
- 19:16Speaker 1: but it seemed like she knew before she even called
- 19:20Speaker 1: what she wanted to do. Yeah, Like I remember saying,
- 19:24Speaker 1: when my father was in a nursing home on the
- 19:25Speaker 1: East Coast, I say to my brothers and sisters want
- 19:27Speaker 1: it would just move him out to l A, like
- 19:28Speaker 1: I can get him twenty four hour care here, or
- 19:31Speaker 1: you know, we have my bell and they were like, no,
- 19:35Speaker 1: you can't take that on, Like you think you can
- 19:37Speaker 1: take that on, but you just can't. And they saved
- 19:39Speaker 1: me from myself. But that was a different situation because
- 19:42Speaker 1: that's my father, and I have no patience and I'm
- 19:44Speaker 1: not nearly as you know, loving and sweet as this
- 19:47Speaker 1: woman is. So when you're talking to somebody who you
- 19:50Speaker 1: know has an eight year old brain and they're like,
- 19:52Speaker 1: I want to be with you. I live with you,
- 19:54Speaker 1: now live with not giving into that is really respectful,
- 19:58Speaker 1: like not just appeasing them because they're just in a
- 20:00Speaker 1: moment and they love you and they're a little kid,
- 20:02Speaker 1: and you want to make them happy. So she's already
- 20:05Speaker 1: very adult like, you know, because she's made it clear, no,
- 20:07Speaker 1: you live in Ontario. You live in Ontario. But I
- 20:10Speaker 1: think that they should be together. I think that they
- 20:12Speaker 1: will be. I'll be curious to see what happens over
- 20:14Speaker 1: the next few months. I really do hope that she
- 20:16Speaker 1: checks in. I mean, I guess if these people check
- 20:18Speaker 1: back in will be a big reflection on the podcast. Brandon,
- 20:21Speaker 1: I think, well, I think a lot of people really
- 20:23Speaker 1: just need perspective that is not part of their bubble,
- 20:27Speaker 1: their group, because you just get so overwhelmed by what's
- 20:29Speaker 1: going on. I think about her friends, who are you know,
- 20:31Speaker 1: having this conversation daily. It's really hard to give an
- 20:34Speaker 1: honest opinion, and we don't know them, so it's very
- 20:37Speaker 1: easy for us to tell them things that they may
- 20:39Speaker 1: not like. But I shaved my legs this morning outside
- 20:43Speaker 1: on the deck. Did you shake your face? No, I
- 20:45Speaker 1: haven't shaved my face in a while. Actually I should
- 20:47Speaker 1: probably do that, but on the patio or whatever that
- 20:50Speaker 1: area is, and I cut myself bleeding and then my
- 20:53Speaker 1: pants got blood on them and they're white. Do you
- 20:55Speaker 1: dry shave? Well? I was because the light was so
- 20:58Speaker 1: great that I just thought, you know what, I should
- 21:01Speaker 1: get a razor right now. Yeah, I was. It turned
- 21:04Speaker 1: out to be a little bit of a blood bath
- 21:06Speaker 1: this morning. Luckily Felix came in first thing. Yes, Felix
- 21:10Speaker 1: is the groundskeeper at the house. Well, don't say groundskeeper.
- 21:13Speaker 1: That sounds very white privilege. How would you describe him?
- 21:16Speaker 1: I thought he was the dog walker Brandon. No, I mean,
- 21:20Speaker 1: I know he does other things. Described. I describe him
- 21:24Speaker 1: as Bernice's Bernice's boyfriend. He is the best, Felix. Yeah, yeah,
- 21:30Speaker 1: he's much better than Oscar. Who was the last guy
- 21:33Speaker 1: that did this job. Oscar? There was the other one.
- 21:36Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's not even mention his name. He quit.
- 21:39Speaker 1: Do you remember why? What was it? He didn't like
- 21:41Speaker 1: that a gay guy was giving him. Say that a lot, Yeah,
- 21:45Speaker 1: that you run into that a lot, right, gay guys
- 21:47Speaker 1: straight men not straight men. I found really do not
- 21:51Speaker 1: like it if I have to work with them and
- 21:52Speaker 1: give them direction on something. Very butch men don't give
- 21:56Speaker 1: a ship who they get direction from. There's like an
- 21:58Speaker 1: inherent insecurity and they don't like that. And what about women?
- 22:02Speaker 1: Straight women? They love it? No, they don't give a ship.
- 22:05Speaker 1: But there's no ego and anything a straight woman does,
- 22:07Speaker 1: like if you give them direction, she's like, hey, we
- 22:09Speaker 1: need to do it this way. It's like, okay, it's
- 22:11Speaker 1: so easy to communicate with a woman. Yeah, that's so true.
- 22:14Speaker 1: That's why men there are signs everywhere where wear a mask,
- 22:17Speaker 1: however you do it. Yeah, we spent an entire pandemic
- 22:21Speaker 1: with signs everywhere saying wear a mask, and they wouldn't
- 22:23Speaker 1: do it. If I ever see another man with a
- 22:26Speaker 1: mask underneath their nose, I mean, I'm just gonna lose it.
- 22:30Speaker 1: I am. I can't not say anything. I mean, I
- 22:32Speaker 1: know it's kind of like over now, but if I
- 22:34Speaker 1: see it again, I'm going to get as mad as
- 22:36Speaker 1: I did before. It's like poking a hole in your
- 22:37Speaker 1: condom before you put it on, like it serves no purpose.
- 22:40Speaker 1: It's also just the most unflattering way to look at
- 22:43Speaker 1: someone is to see them without a mouth, like to
- 22:45Speaker 1: see nose up. No, no, no, no, that doesn't isn't
- 22:49Speaker 1: It is like looking at a dick pic. Most people
- 22:51Speaker 1: don't have the face for that, They don't have the
- 22:52Speaker 1: face structure to carry that. You have to ask yourself
- 22:56Speaker 1: do you have the nose up face. Although it is
- 22:58Speaker 1: an adjustment to see people's whole faces, I am very
- 23:02Speaker 1: glad we are transitioning out of this phase, and I
- 23:04Speaker 1: hope it is permanent. I think I'm just gonna keep
- 23:08Speaker 1: my mask on, but I agree. I mean, it's nice
- 23:10Speaker 1: to have the option to take it off. I once
- 23:12Speaker 1: slept in a mask accidentally woke up with it. Obviously
- 23:15Speaker 1: I was intoxicated, but I think I was so disgusted
- 23:17Speaker 1: by the person that I was with who said he
- 23:19Speaker 1: didn't think masks worked, that I kept it on for
- 23:22Speaker 1: extra coverage that You're like, I'm going to make sure
- 23:24Speaker 1: i'm protected after being around you. I told you about
- 23:26Speaker 1: the guy went off on at the gym. Right I
- 23:29Speaker 1: was walking down the stairs and Jim's finally reopened here,
- 23:31Speaker 1: so I was really excited and went in for one
- 23:35Speaker 1: of my first workouts, and I was walking down the
- 23:36Speaker 1: stairs and this guy was on the elliptical. I mean
- 23:38Speaker 1: he was barely moving, had his mask totally off, not
- 23:42Speaker 1: even under his chin, and so I be aligned it
- 23:44Speaker 1: for him and I was like, hey, hey, put on
- 23:46Speaker 1: your fucking mask, and the people are all looking he
- 23:49Speaker 1: what's going on? Are you new to the what's going on?
- 23:52Speaker 1: I don't know a pandemic? People? Are you new to
- 23:55Speaker 1: the fucking planet? Because it doesn't matter where he came from,
- 23:58Speaker 1: you know what's going on here? Like, put on your
- 23:59Speaker 1: map and what do you see? This woman over here
- 24:01Speaker 1: sprinting uphill on the treadmill. She has her mouse completely
- 24:04Speaker 1: on your barely fucking glistening, Like, what are you doing?
- 24:07Speaker 1: You're not exerting yourself, buddy, you have athletic induced asthma
- 24:10Speaker 1: from wrestling in sixth grade. Put on your mask and
- 24:14Speaker 1: then take up puff of your inhaler. Well wait, remember
- 24:18Speaker 1: that happened in New York City when we were filming
- 24:20Speaker 1: my special. We were coming around the corner we took
- 24:22Speaker 1: a ploties class in the morning. Two guys outside FedEx
- 24:26Speaker 1: workers and they weren't wearing masks, and I was like, hey, guys,
- 24:29Speaker 1: why aren't you wearing masks? And they're like, who's the
- 24:31Speaker 1: word outside? And I'm like, yeah, but you're two feet
- 24:33Speaker 1: away from each other, Like that's what's happening. We're all
- 24:35Speaker 1: spreading it two ft away from other people walking on
- 24:37Speaker 1: the sidelore, right, And then some guy came up on
- 24:40Speaker 1: a bike and he's like, you shut up? What do
- 24:42Speaker 1: you call me? Bitch? Bitch? And I was wearing my mask,
- 24:45Speaker 1: so there's no way he even knew who I was.
- 24:47Speaker 1: And I was like, I would be a little bit
- 24:51Speaker 1: more understandable. And I was like, what I mean, when
- 24:54Speaker 1: somebody provokes me like that, I can't not engage, like
- 24:57Speaker 1: I want to be like you will knock at the
- 24:58Speaker 1: last word, which is so stupid. But it's so ridiculous
- 25:02Speaker 1: that they want to validate their behavior or become aggressive.
- 25:05Speaker 1: And that's so I was a little in front of you,
- 25:07Speaker 1: and I didn't realize what was happening. And as soon
- 25:09Speaker 1: as the guy pulled up on his bike and called
- 25:11Speaker 1: you a bitch, like I stepped up because I'm like,
- 25:13Speaker 1: you don't know what people are going to do, because
- 25:16Speaker 1: all you need is some fucking vitamin C. You just
- 25:18Speaker 1: got to take vitamin C and then that's all you need.
- 25:21Speaker 1: There's no such thing as COVID. And I was like, oh, okay,
- 25:24Speaker 1: well now we're dealing with, like, you know, a chocolateyte,
- 25:28Speaker 1: a New York chocolodte. It's just so unbelievable. Okay, well
- 25:33Speaker 1: should we take another caller? I mean, I guess unless
- 25:35Speaker 1: we want to go on about those guys. The next
- 25:38Speaker 1: emission comes from Jessica. She's in her twenties. We do
- 25:41Speaker 1: not know where she is. Oh, it's a mystery. It's
- 25:44Speaker 1: like Mtery Alaska, remember that movie Mry Alaska. I'm in
- 25:47Speaker 1: San Diego. Where in the world is she? We don't
- 25:49Speaker 1: know shere. It's dear Chelsea. I recently got really drunk
- 25:52Speaker 1: and hooked up with my best friend's brother, Tail as
- 25:55Speaker 1: Old as Time, Jessica. I told my best friend I
- 25:57Speaker 1: wouldn't hook up with his brother because he's notorious for
- 26:00Speaker 1: banging lots of women. Well that should have been your
- 26:03Speaker 1: signal right there. We all hung out and had a
- 26:05Speaker 1: great time in the community we live in is really small,
- 26:07Speaker 1: so it could cause problems in the long run. I've
- 26:10Speaker 1: had a huge crush on his brother for eight months,
- 26:12Speaker 1: and I held out for this long and then I
- 26:13Speaker 1: just sucked it all up because of whiskey and white Claw.
- 26:16Speaker 1: Also Taylor as Old as Time. But now it's done,
- 26:19Speaker 1: and he expressed that he really enjoyed it and he
- 26:21Speaker 1: hasn't been acting weird at all. So the question is
- 26:24Speaker 1: do I bang him again? Yes or no? Hi, Jessica,
- 26:28Speaker 1: I Chelsea Jessica, I can tell just by the looks
- 26:32Speaker 1: of you that you're going to have sex with him again. Also,
- 26:34Speaker 1: I can already tell look at how happy you are.
- 26:37Speaker 1: You're every fun girlfriend I had in college. I'm not
- 26:42Speaker 1: in college anymore. I'm past that. But I think I
- 26:45Speaker 1: got worse after I graduated. So yeah, but whatever, who
- 26:49Speaker 1: gives a ship you get worse in what way that
- 26:51Speaker 1: you like sex? Who cares? That's what we're here for.
- 26:54Speaker 1: That's what we're here for. That's what these ages for
- 26:56Speaker 1: is to have fun and you know, go explored. I
- 27:00Speaker 1: know who you're into and for how long. Yeah, the
- 27:03Speaker 1: problem is that I make the wrong choices and who
- 27:06Speaker 1: I want to have sex with, and then I get
- 27:08Speaker 1: myself into trouble because of it, as you can see. Yeah,
- 27:12Speaker 1: but it sounds like you like trouble then because you
- 27:14Speaker 1: knew that he didn't want you to sleep with him.
- 27:16Speaker 1: Does your friend know that you slept with his brother
- 27:17Speaker 1: by the way he does? He does, and he wasn't
- 27:21Speaker 1: very happy about it, and he's assuming that I'm not
- 27:24Speaker 1: going to do it again. Has he met you? Unfortunately?
- 27:31Speaker 1: When you say that, well, don't say that. I mean
- 27:33Speaker 1: I've met you, and I could tell you're going to
- 27:35Speaker 1: do it again. So I mean, I don't know, what's
- 27:38Speaker 1: no question in my mind she's gonna suck him, probably tonight. Okay,
- 27:41Speaker 1: you say that you get into trouble with your decisions.
- 27:44Speaker 1: What is it that becomes problematic? Do you get involved
- 27:47Speaker 1: emotionally and these guys are just pieces of ship or what? No? No,
- 27:52Speaker 1: I just I choose the most dramatic situations to be in.
- 27:56Speaker 1: So there's more to this story than just the email
- 28:00Speaker 1: that I sent you. Guys, well, can we get the
- 28:01Speaker 1: cliffs notes? Not development? So I live in a very,
- 28:07Speaker 1: very small town, so that's one of the problems. And
- 28:11Speaker 1: this boy who I hooked up with his ex girlfriend
- 28:15Speaker 1: happens to be my laser hair removal technician and she's
- 28:20Speaker 1: that ship crazy. Okay, well, don't go back to her
- 28:23Speaker 1: or you'll lose more than you wanted. I'm not I'm terrified.
- 28:27Speaker 1: Does she know how many sessions have you done with
- 28:29Speaker 1: the laser hair removal? Like five? That's plenty. You don't
- 28:32Speaker 1: need to do anymore. I mean, honestly, I just yeah,
- 28:36Speaker 1: I mean, and just go back for a touch up
- 28:37Speaker 1: to someone else. Obviously. The other thing is I understand
- 28:40Speaker 1: what you mean about being drawn to drama. I used
- 28:43Speaker 1: to be like, how old are you? I seven? That's
- 28:46Speaker 1: an age to be kind of a funk up. Sorry
- 28:49Speaker 1: to say it, but that's like we're attracted to drama
- 28:52Speaker 1: at that age because we're not fully an adult yet.
- 28:55Speaker 1: You're really not an adult until you're in your thirties.
- 28:58Speaker 1: But you shouldn't beat yourself up like I stand about
- 29:00Speaker 1: making bad decisions. You don't want to piss your friends off,
- 29:03Speaker 1: you don't want to piss your family off, or you
- 29:05Speaker 1: don't want to do anything that's so unforgivable. So it's
- 29:08Speaker 1: important to like check your behavior. But at the same time, like,
- 29:12Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but your twenties are for mistakes in bed,
- 29:15Speaker 1: you know, and like it's kind of like a coming
- 29:17Speaker 1: of age, really integral part of your life. Yeah, and
- 29:21Speaker 1: as a woman, you shouldn't have to be validated by
- 29:24Speaker 1: anyone else for your decisions. Like if you want to
- 29:26Speaker 1: fox someone, you do it, And as long as you're
- 29:27Speaker 1: not harming yourself or them physically or emotionally, you shouldn't
- 29:31Speaker 1: have to answer to anyone about that. First of all,
- 29:33Speaker 1: it's very personal. So even your friend he should have
- 29:36Speaker 1: no voice in this. His opinion. Again, unless it's harming
- 29:40Speaker 1: him physically or severely emotionally, you should be able to
- 29:43Speaker 1: do what you want to do. I know, I just
- 29:46Speaker 1: feel like every time I want to like, like I said,
- 29:49Speaker 1: I'm not like the type of person who's a home wrecord,
- 29:52Speaker 1: I'm not going to do anything awful like that. Just
- 29:54Speaker 1: I feel like every time I go out and I
- 29:56Speaker 1: find somebody that I'm like, I want to do with you,
- 29:59Speaker 1: it's you. I'm trying view somebody has something to say
- 30:02Speaker 1: about it, and I don't know why. I don't know why.
- 30:04Speaker 1: It's always just like no, like you're going to ruin
- 30:06Speaker 1: everything you're am I only supposed to bang like complete strangers,
- 30:10Speaker 1: Like I'm not allowed to do it within like the
- 30:12Speaker 1: friend group because it's such a small community. There are
- 30:14Speaker 1: no strangers for me to go find, Like everybody knows everybody.
- 30:19Speaker 1: So are you can I ask you a question, Yeah,
- 30:21Speaker 1: as someone from a small town, do you make it
- 30:23Speaker 1: dramatic afterwards? Because I know that sometimes that can happen.
- 30:27Speaker 1: I don't that you go into it with like zero
- 30:28Speaker 1: expectations and that you just want to fuck and that's fine,
- 30:32Speaker 1: but then you get wrapped up in the drama. Yourself. Yeah,
- 30:34Speaker 1: sometimes exactly, Like if you're prone to a lot of
- 30:36Speaker 1: drama's usually because you like drama. I don't, I swear
- 30:40Speaker 1: it's it's I think that the people that I surround
- 30:42Speaker 1: myself with do maybe I feed off of that. Brandon,
- 30:45Speaker 1: should she have some again? Can if he can keep
- 30:48Speaker 1: his mouth shut, If he's respectful of you enough to
- 30:51Speaker 1: where you want to keep this very casual and noncommittal,
- 30:55Speaker 1: and he respects that and will not tell anyone, then you,
- 30:56Speaker 1: guys should have a good time. You're twenty seven years
- 30:59Speaker 1: old like this. It shouldn't be and everybody shouldn't be
- 31:02Speaker 1: wanghing in who cares about his ex girlfriend who's a
- 31:04Speaker 1: wax esthetician, Like she has nothing to do with your
- 31:07Speaker 1: life at all. I mean they're not together, right, No,
- 31:11Speaker 1: I'm just worried if she were to find out. But
- 31:13Speaker 1: all your worry is what if? What if? What if?
- 31:15Speaker 1: What if? Your friends are all worried about what if?
- 31:17Speaker 1: What if? Nothing's happening, So stop sucking worrying. You're gonna
- 31:22Speaker 1: make something happen, and you're gonna you're engaging the drama.
- 31:25Speaker 1: You have to be like, hey, guys, I'm an adult.
- 31:27Speaker 1: I'm twenty seven years old. If I want to have
- 31:29Speaker 1: a little fun, I want to have a little fun.
- 31:31Speaker 1: The other thing is if it's your friend's brother and
- 31:34Speaker 1: your friends really sensitive, then you have to have a
- 31:35Speaker 1: more adult conversation with your friend and be like, hey,
- 31:38Speaker 1: like I don't want to ruin our friendship, but like
- 31:41Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun. Like what's the problem?
- 31:43Speaker 1: Can I have a casual relationship with your brother? Or
- 31:46Speaker 1: is he worried that it will get serious and you'll
- 31:48Speaker 1: get your heartbroken? Right? No, you're right, I shouldn't have
- 31:52Speaker 1: that conversation with him. Well, also because he he's made
- 31:55Speaker 1: like moves on my friends, So I'm like, why can
- 31:57Speaker 1: you do it to mine? But I can't do it
- 31:59Speaker 1: to yours? Exactly because men want control over everything. They're
- 32:02Speaker 1: the fucking worst. Do not give in and don't answer
- 32:06Speaker 1: to anyone. You should even be answering to us at
- 32:08Speaker 1: this scenario. You need to go funk this guy. You
- 32:11Speaker 1: need to get perspective. That's why wrong, I think. Listen,
- 32:15Speaker 1: if you're in a small town, the drama probably is
- 32:17Speaker 1: a lot bigger than what it is. You know what
- 32:19Speaker 1: I mean, It seems a lot bigger than what it
- 32:21Speaker 1: actually is. And so I would go with that and
- 32:24Speaker 1: tell everybody just that you're you're not a little girl, like,
- 32:27Speaker 1: You're gonna do what you want to do, and everyone
- 32:29Speaker 1: can weigh in when you ask for their opinion. That's true,
- 32:33Speaker 1: That's very true. I hope that it happens organically. If
- 32:36Speaker 1: it does, and then it stays where it should be.
- 32:39Speaker 1: But yeah, well, good luck to you into the city
- 32:42Speaker 1: that you live in. Maybe I should just move. Maybe
- 32:45Speaker 1: that that was gonna be my next suggestion. And when
- 32:47Speaker 1: you're done with their move, when you've gone through all
- 32:51Speaker 1: those in their move, Yeah, when you've gone through the
- 32:54Speaker 1: enough guys in that town, fucking leave it and just
- 32:56Speaker 1: go to a bigger city where you'll have options galore. Perfect.
- 33:01Speaker 1: Hopefully by that time, I'll still have like the skin
- 33:03Speaker 1: on my body after this woman lasers everything off. Well, yeah,
- 33:08Speaker 1: you're not going back there, so don't worry. You'd rather
- 33:11Speaker 1: deal with some extra hair on your beaver and then
- 33:12Speaker 1: going back there, all right. By Jessica Have Fun by
- 33:20Speaker 1: Jessica is one of those girls that is just fun
- 33:22Speaker 1: to be around, and it's such an exploratory age. It's
- 33:25Speaker 1: also like everyone takes themselves away too seriously and That's
- 33:28Speaker 1: the only thing I think that's advice to listen to
- 33:32Speaker 1: from like a really early age is to not take
- 33:34Speaker 1: yourself so seriously because that is the biggest hurdle between
- 33:38Speaker 1: people and they're fucking egos and the way that they're
- 33:41Speaker 1: perceived and the way that they're coming across and the
- 33:43Speaker 1: way that they're presenting themselves is ego. It's all about
- 33:47Speaker 1: this like six cycle. So it's like step one, don't
- 33:50Speaker 1: take yourself too seriously. Okay, you go to the bathroom too.
- 33:54Speaker 1: I'm sure you've stayed some underwear. Okay, Well, this is
- 33:57Speaker 1: a golden opportunity for us to get my breath the
- 34:00Speaker 1: Roy on the phone. So we're gonna call Roy and
- 34:02Speaker 1: he doesn't know what's happening, because you know, what's the
- 34:06Speaker 1: point of explaining it. I can't wait to see him
- 34:08Speaker 1: to reiterate he's not asking her advice, but you know
- 34:11Speaker 1: this is going to be unsolicited advice and we just
- 34:14Speaker 1: need to get yes. Thank you, Hi Roy boy? Are
- 34:18Speaker 1: you guys doing Hi? Roy? Roy? Your camera screen is
- 34:22Speaker 1: so clean? Sorry, can you wipe it with something? It's
- 34:27Speaker 1: like very opaque where you are. Actually, I would love
- 34:30Speaker 1: for that filter to be on us because he looks
- 34:32Speaker 1: just very smooth. Okay, so I'm gonna showing his house.
- 34:35Speaker 1: I can go upstairs and do the wipe it down
- 34:37Speaker 1: if you need me to wipe it down. But my
- 34:40Speaker 1: internet went out, so that's why I'm over here. Okay, Well,
- 34:43Speaker 1: does she have a computer cloth? Maybe I'd like to
- 34:46Speaker 1: see you a little bit more crisply. Okay, okay, great,
- 34:50Speaker 1: I'll give him some background. Okay, up Roy is a
- 34:53Speaker 1: hot mass of our family. He's kind of like, you know,
- 34:55Speaker 1: the baby of the family, even though he's the oldest.
- 34:58Speaker 1: So we sent him once about to call a couple
- 35:00Speaker 1: of years ago to get his life sorted out. He
- 35:02Speaker 1: went to live on an island and pull out. My
- 35:04Speaker 1: sister got him a job. Somebody she went to law
- 35:06Speaker 1: school with owns a resort. So he's a chef, and
- 35:09Speaker 1: he went to pull out. He lived here for a
- 35:11Speaker 1: few years and kind of you right with me, and
- 35:14Speaker 1: it was you know, it turns it got pretty hectic,
- 35:16Speaker 1: you know, irresponsibility, having girls at the house who were
- 35:20Speaker 1: asking for pictures in my kitchen at seven am in
- 35:22Speaker 1: the morning. Things like that kept happening. So anyway, so
- 35:25Speaker 1: we were like, okay, Roy, he went to Palu, this
- 35:28Speaker 1: little island off the coast of Indonesia and Singapore, maybe,
- 35:34Speaker 1: and he has been living there for the last I
- 35:37Speaker 1: have no sense of time, So it could have been
- 35:38Speaker 1: four years. It could have been three years. It could
- 35:40Speaker 1: have been six months. We'll find out when he gets back. Anyway,
- 35:43Speaker 1: he came home. He's done with that job, he's over it.
- 35:46Speaker 1: He came back to live in New Jersey. He lives
- 35:48Speaker 1: across the street from my sister Shawna, and he got
- 35:51Speaker 1: a job. But he's got a wife now who's in
- 35:54Speaker 1: the Philippines that he supports, and she has two children. Roy,
- 36:02Speaker 1: hold on one second, I mean, wipe your face. Hold on,
- 36:07Speaker 1: I heard everything he said. Perfect. Roy doesn't want advice
- 36:11Speaker 1: from his family members, right, Is that correct? Roy? I
- 36:15Speaker 1: wouldn't say that. I mean, advice is good, but you've
- 36:17Speaker 1: just got to take everything with the grain of salt.
- 36:19Speaker 1: Some people know what they're talking about. Some people know
- 36:22Speaker 1: what they're Did you shave half of your mustache today? No?
- 36:25Speaker 1: Why one half looks shaved and one side doesn't. But
- 36:30Speaker 1: that's at least you're I think it's just the shadow
- 36:33Speaker 1: on it. Okay, it's probably just the reflection anyway, Great,
- 36:36Speaker 1: job cleaning it up. We still can't see you, Roy,
- 36:38Speaker 1: Can you give Brandon the rundown you left for when
- 36:42Speaker 1: I left for Palau in two fifteen after I left
- 36:46Speaker 1: l A. Okay, Mom got me the job in Plow.
- 36:50Speaker 1: She has a friend who she went to school with
- 36:52Speaker 1: an Emory, and they own a restaurant Plow. So they
- 36:57Speaker 1: asked me to go there for three weeks and I
- 36:59Speaker 1: went there for four or five years and got married.
- 37:02Speaker 1: I did not get married. We are not married yet. Okay,
- 37:05Speaker 1: Well that's good to know you. I thought you were married. No,
- 37:08Speaker 1: we have to get married because I'm not allowed into
- 37:10Speaker 1: the Philippines with the virus thing unless I was. If
- 37:13Speaker 1: I was married, i'd be able to get in, but
- 37:15Speaker 1: I'm not married, so I'm not able to get in. Okay,
- 37:18Speaker 1: So you're thinking about getting married just to get in
- 37:20Speaker 1: because of COVID. Yeah, because that's a big mistake. Now
- 37:24Speaker 1: I can't see I haven't seen her in eighteen months.
- 37:26Speaker 1: So and the last time he didn't see her for
- 37:28Speaker 1: a period of time, Right, she had a baby with
- 37:30Speaker 1: someone else, right, that's correct. Yeah, but that was before
- 37:36Speaker 1: that was before we started going out. Okay, So explain
- 37:39Speaker 1: the dynamic with you and your wife? Are you are
- 37:42Speaker 1: you engaged? I was in I was working in Palau.
- 37:46Speaker 1: There's not much to do in Palau, so we go
- 37:48Speaker 1: to karaoke bars a lot. So there's waitresses who entertained
- 37:52Speaker 1: the customers in the karaoke bars. And I met her
- 37:56Speaker 1: and I went in there. Almost right, I'm gonna interject
- 37:59Speaker 1: with some question since as you set this up, when
- 38:01Speaker 1: you say entertained, do you mean like entertain or sing
- 38:05Speaker 1: at karaoke? And they sing, They do a lot of
- 38:08Speaker 1: stuff they do, you know, favors and like that. But
- 38:13Speaker 1: it depends. I'm still super clear if I keep going.
- 38:16Speaker 1: I told you this is a tricky cave. It depends
- 38:18Speaker 1: on the girl. She was a sweet and I liked her,
- 38:23Speaker 1: and I walked into the bar. The first time I
- 38:25Speaker 1: met her, she was sitting down behind the bar. There
- 38:27Speaker 1: was no customers in the bar, and I sat down.
- 38:30Speaker 1: I wandered to drink, and she was she had her
- 38:32Speaker 1: head down and she was just behind the bar in
- 38:34Speaker 1: a chair and she didn't say anything to me. And
- 38:37Speaker 1: for like ten minutes and I'm sitting there, I'm like,
- 38:39Speaker 1: So I grabbed a piece of popcorn and then threw
- 38:41Speaker 1: it out her head and then she looked up and
- 38:43Speaker 1: she slipped up and she smiled at me. And that
- 38:45Speaker 1: was that was it, That was the start, that was
- 38:49Speaker 1: the fire that lit the candle. I met her at
- 38:51Speaker 1: the karaoke bar. We went out for a couple of times,
- 38:54Speaker 1: and then she wanted she wanted me to be boyfriend
- 38:57Speaker 1: and girlfriend with her, and I'm like, if you're working here,
- 39:00Speaker 1: I can't be boyfriend and girlfriend with you because I
- 39:02Speaker 1: don't like going out with the guys. We didn't know
- 39:06Speaker 1: what she was going to get up to, right, and
- 39:08Speaker 1: she said, okay, that's it and no more, no more
- 39:12Speaker 1: for you, and she went out with another guy and
- 39:15Speaker 1: she got pregnant, and then she went back to the Philippines.
- 39:19Speaker 1: So we didn't talk for like six months. And then
- 39:21Speaker 1: six months later I called her, see what's up? And
- 39:24Speaker 1: she had a baby and she was in six months.
- 39:30Speaker 1: She's an easy bake oven. How did she have a baby?
- 39:33Speaker 1: Pinots are very right, they're very there. So they only
- 39:37Speaker 1: have six months pregnancies. Okay, Well you don't believe in
- 39:41Speaker 1: birth control, okay. And so the other guy was just
- 39:44Speaker 1: to clarify. The other guy was a customer, was a
- 39:47Speaker 1: karaoke bar, yeah, okay, So he was a customer at
- 39:50Speaker 1: the karaoke bar that she had a baby with, and
- 39:52Speaker 1: that you're now the father too, correct, that's correct. I
- 39:55Speaker 1: am the stepfather of two of them. Yeah okay, okay, Well,
- 39:58Speaker 1: but you're not the stepfather, Roy, because you're not married.
- 40:01Speaker 1: That's true. But I am the step step what you
- 40:03Speaker 1: call it, whatever it is. You're a father figure, that boyfriend,
- 40:07Speaker 1: the acting paternal figure in their life. Yes, okay. So
- 40:12Speaker 1: are you formally engaged to this woman. No, I'm not
- 40:15Speaker 1: formally engaged. Nothing with Roy is formal. Okay. Well, yeah,
- 40:21Speaker 1: so Roy told me this story. Obviously over the summer
- 40:23Speaker 1: we got to see each other, and I thought, you
- 40:26Speaker 1: know what, good for you? He told me how he
- 40:29Speaker 1: met her, the karaoke bar story, and you know, years
- 40:31Speaker 1: ago I would have really laid into him and been like,
- 40:33Speaker 1: what are you thinking? But I want him to be happy,
- 40:36Speaker 1: and he makes her happy. So who gives a ship?
- 40:38Speaker 1: What the funk she does? And I'm sick of judging
- 40:40Speaker 1: women for doing stuff anyway, Well that's all we want.
- 40:43Speaker 1: So we're laughing. But you're happy. I'm very happy. Yeah.
- 40:46Speaker 1: I wish she could be here, you know, or I
- 40:49Speaker 1: could be in the Philippines instead of this long distance stuff.
- 40:52Speaker 1: But that leads me to my next question, what is
- 40:54Speaker 1: the plan? Would she move here? How serious is this
- 40:56Speaker 1: if she's still gallivanting alone through the Philippine with her
- 41:00Speaker 1: two kids. Don't say gavanting, Brandon, Brandon, what Brandon, that's
- 41:07Speaker 1: very You're now being judging. No I'm gallivanting. No, no, No,
- 41:13Speaker 1: that's judgment. She's first of all, when I was in
- 41:19Speaker 1: I built a house, or I didn't build it. Her
- 41:21Speaker 1: father built a house in the Philippines, a simple, small house.
- 41:25Speaker 1: It was bucks And they live in the house now
- 41:29Speaker 1: with their parents and their sisters and all that. So
- 41:32Speaker 1: there's like nine people in the house. So she's not
- 41:35Speaker 1: She takes care of the two kids. She's very loyal.
- 41:38Speaker 1: She's a sweet girl. She reminds me a lot of mom, Like,
- 41:41Speaker 1: she's super super super sweet. Does everything. She doesn't go out,
- 41:45Speaker 1: She doesn't go about drinking or anything like that. You know,
- 41:48Speaker 1: she does when I go there just to have fun.
- 41:50Speaker 1: But when I'm not there, she doesn't do that. She's
- 41:53Speaker 1: very um experiened. So could she move to the US,
- 41:58Speaker 1: could you guys form a real life together? Yeah, she
- 42:00Speaker 1: can move, but we have to get her visa thing done,
- 42:03Speaker 1: which is working, but it's not ready yet. She's only
- 42:05Speaker 1: been to Pullow, so she's only allowed to go to
- 42:08Speaker 1: like three countries and one of them is Pullow. And
- 42:11Speaker 1: I think she's allowed to go to Japan and Vietnam,
- 42:16Speaker 1: but she's not allowed to come to the US. And
- 42:18Speaker 1: so how does it work when if you were to
- 42:21Speaker 1: meet someone, would you have to marry her there to
- 42:23Speaker 1: bring her back? How would the marriage work in terms
- 42:26Speaker 1: of getting her here? You better off to marry here
- 42:29Speaker 1: and then we can work it out in the Philippines.
- 42:32Speaker 1: And once you get married, that's it. There's no divorce
- 42:35Speaker 1: in the Philippines. Well, that's not gonna work out, more
- 42:37Speaker 1: recognizable if you get a US marriage rather than can
- 42:41Speaker 1: she not come to the US with the kids just
- 42:43Speaker 1: to get me married? And she can come like an
- 42:46Speaker 1: F like Glenn's like Olga did on an F third
- 42:50Speaker 1: F H one N one. I'm not sure. I think
- 42:54Speaker 1: that's the bird flu. Actually we did that, so but
- 42:57Speaker 1: that was years ago. So exchange true. Yeah, I bet
- 43:01Speaker 1: you would be easier to bring her over here, marry
- 43:03Speaker 1: her in the States, and then she becomes a US
- 43:06Speaker 1: citizen by way of marriage. I think I can get
- 43:08Speaker 1: us three months thing where she's here for ninety days
- 43:11Speaker 1: and get married and then at all. Yeah, and then
- 43:13Speaker 1: so she would come over with the kids. No, she
- 43:16Speaker 1: would come over by herself, get married, then go back.
- 43:20Speaker 1: Uh huh Okay, Well, normally I would step in and
- 43:23Speaker 1: do all this stuff for him, but I have a
- 43:25Speaker 1: handsoff approach now to my family. Let them figure it
- 43:28Speaker 1: out and if they need me to lask right personally,
- 43:31Speaker 1: I hope that it works. I hope that she's able
- 43:33Speaker 1: to come over. I hope that you guys can start
- 43:34Speaker 1: your life together, because what you're doing now is no life.
- 43:36Speaker 1: Like there's no talking about a well, Roy, you have
- 43:39Speaker 1: a life, but you want a life with your wife
- 43:41Speaker 1: and your kids. And what the longestance in eighteen month intervals.
- 43:45Speaker 1: I mean, that's no way to build a relationship. And
- 43:48Speaker 1: no matter how long you're together, I mean, relationships are
- 43:50Speaker 1: constant work. And so we laugh about it. All we
- 43:54Speaker 1: want in life is for people that we love to
- 43:55Speaker 1: be happy. Yeah, my brother to be happy, and she
- 43:58Speaker 1: makes him happy. So we have to figure out. Roy,
- 44:00Speaker 1: you have to put all your efforts towards getting her
- 44:02Speaker 1: over here with the visa and getting that ship sorted out. No,
- 44:06Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, this is a person who didn't have
- 44:08Speaker 1: health insurance. Now he does well, yeah, but not because
- 44:11Speaker 1: of himself. So if he has to take the initiative,
- 44:14Speaker 1: you know, instead of me taking the initiative. Is Shawna
- 44:16Speaker 1: there with you, Roy, Shanna, we're gonna share about that's fun.
- 44:22Speaker 1: Do you and your fiance what's her name again? Maurice
- 44:25Speaker 1: M A R I Z Marie. Do you guys have
- 44:28Speaker 1: phone sex? We do not have phone sex. We joke
- 44:31Speaker 1: about it, but we don't. We don't. There's no penetration.
- 44:34Speaker 1: Thanks for clarifying that. Roy wouldn't be right because it's
- 44:37Speaker 1: phone sex. No, well, right, so I don't even know
- 44:40Speaker 1: what he's talking about. But anyway, I mean, I guess
- 44:43Speaker 1: what is the moral of this story? I wanted you
- 44:45Speaker 1: to weigh in for him that it was an outside list.
- 44:47Speaker 1: I honestly think that as long as Royce happy, healthy
- 44:51Speaker 1: and yes, health insurance, So check those two boxes, that
- 44:54Speaker 1: she's happy and healthy, and that there's consistent communication about
- 44:58Speaker 1: moving forward like that's the one thing I wouldn't want
- 45:00Speaker 1: either of you to get too comfortable in the dynamic
- 45:03Speaker 1: that you're currently in to where nothing changes, because again
- 45:05Speaker 1: that's not a real relationship in terms of the process
- 45:09Speaker 1: of building a life together. So as long as there's
- 45:11Speaker 1: a movement on getting her here or getting you there,
- 45:13Speaker 1: I think you keep doing it right. The thing is,
- 45:16Speaker 1: with the COVID everything everything slowed down, so I'm not
- 45:19Speaker 1: even allowed into the Philippines. Only Filipinos are allowed into
- 45:22Speaker 1: the Philippines, so it's tough to get in and now,
- 45:24Speaker 1: but I think you should focus Roy on bringing her
- 45:27Speaker 1: to America because anyone can travel into America, you can
- 45:30Speaker 1: get her here, So focus your energy on getting the
- 45:32Speaker 1: visa that's appropriate for that for her. Okay, Well that
- 45:36Speaker 1: was anticlimactic and I well it's still in process, so
- 45:39Speaker 1: you really need to keep us posted, Roy, I would
- 45:41Speaker 1: like actual updates on what's going on. Okay, what is
- 45:44Speaker 1: the name of the podcast? By the way, it's called
- 45:46Speaker 1: Dear Chelsea where people call in and ask advice questions
- 45:49Speaker 1: to Brandon and me. And we're a couple's counseling team.
- 45:52Speaker 1: So if you need any help with Maurice when she
- 45:54Speaker 1: gets to town, you know who to call, are you guys,
- 45:57Speaker 1: specially in couples counseling? Well, we're of the couple, but
- 46:00Speaker 1: we also specialize in other couples, so it doesn't really matter.
- 46:03Speaker 1: You could be single or a couple, or a threesome
- 46:06Speaker 1: or a throuble and we're here. We handle all day. Amax.
- 46:10Speaker 1: Well congratulations, Well, congratulations do you. Roy? Looks like you
- 46:14Speaker 1: got yourself a bride and it's going to happen any
- 46:16Speaker 1: day now. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Well, I
- 46:19Speaker 1: can't wait to make a toast any wedding. Yeah, we will,
- 46:22Speaker 1: don't worry, Okay, love you by Roy. You. I love
- 46:30Speaker 1: every one of your family members because they all bring
- 46:32Speaker 1: something to the table, like something. Here's the thing, though,
- 46:35Speaker 1: you dealt with Roy's health insurance, so you know what
- 46:37Speaker 1: I'm dealing with. With him getting a visa for his
- 46:39Speaker 1: potential wife isn't going to happen. I mean, I don't
- 46:42Speaker 1: want to say that because I want to believe in
- 46:44Speaker 1: my brother, but I just know his habits. But it
- 46:46Speaker 1: will speak so highly of Roy if it does get done,
- 46:49Speaker 1: because it means like that was something worse. Will be
- 46:51Speaker 1: attracted to Roy if you could that. You don't have
- 46:53Speaker 1: many other male prospects right now, so maybe you can
- 46:55Speaker 1: get with your brother. I'll get him to break up
- 46:57Speaker 1: with his fiance so I can date him. That sounds
- 46:59Speaker 1: like a Lifetime of old movie. You know who has
- 47:01Speaker 1: a great podcast about Lifetime original movies, Sarah Colonna. Is
- 47:06Speaker 1: it about lifetime marginal only about life? She and her
- 47:08Speaker 1: friend it's really funny. Well, I'd like to pitch you
- 47:10Speaker 1: a project right now then, because I would love to
- 47:12Speaker 1: write a Lifetime original movie called Murders in the Midwest,
- 47:15Speaker 1: And it's all about this guy in my hometown who
- 47:17Speaker 1: was embezzling grant money that was supposed to go to
- 47:20Speaker 1: Native American students to go to college. He was embezzling it,
- 47:23Speaker 1: and everyone in town knew what was going on. And
- 47:25Speaker 1: he lived in a small, timillion dollar mansion. He built
- 47:27Speaker 1: a gymnastics studio. No one in town does gymnastics, small
- 47:30Speaker 1: town of people, and when it could have been who knows.
- 47:35Speaker 1: So turns out the state found out what he was doing.
- 47:37Speaker 1: He went to a meeting where they basically said, like, hey,
- 47:39Speaker 1: we've backtracked all the logs, we know what's going on.
- 47:42Speaker 1: He went home, he hit a safe, told his son's
- 47:45Speaker 1: girlfriend that if anything happened to them, like you know,
- 47:47Speaker 1: she needed to find the safe and killed his entire
- 47:50Speaker 1: family that night, burned the house down with everyone in it. Yeah. God,
- 47:54Speaker 1: that sounds like a Lifetime original movie. Totally totally hort
- 47:59Speaker 1: phonic company. In Contact with Someone, Well, that's a really
- 48:01Speaker 1: our lifetime movie is based on real A lot of
- 48:04Speaker 1: them are. My favorite is this seem like they are. Well,
- 48:07Speaker 1: my favorite Lifetime Original movie is this one called She's
- 48:09Speaker 1: Too Young, and it's about this girl who everyone in
- 48:12Speaker 1: high school is having sex and she gets Syphliss and
- 48:14Speaker 1: her mom is Marcia Gay Harden, who I fucking have
- 48:18Speaker 1: a love hate relationship with. Sometimes she's on screen and
- 48:21Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, like you're like the modern
- 48:24Speaker 1: day Stoker Channing. And then other times I'm like, please,
- 48:27Speaker 1: where is Dr Channing? She's another fucking awesome person. Gay's
- 48:32Speaker 1: love Stoker Channing and Sally Field. Yeah, yeah, and Francis McDorman.
- 48:37Speaker 1: Stoker Channing reminds me a little bit of Francis McDorman.
- 48:39Speaker 1: I'm not sure why. Probably because of that no bullshit attitude.
- 48:42Speaker 1: It's hot. It's hot. It's hot when people have confidence, right,
- 48:46Speaker 1: No soccer Channing was a good fucking time back in
- 48:48Speaker 1: the day. Oh yeah, can you imagine they would have.
- 48:52Speaker 1: I'm glad that they are still alive because if they
- 48:54Speaker 1: did hang out, I don't know how they made it
- 48:56Speaker 1: out of that. That would have been a lot of quayludes, right,
- 48:59Speaker 1: But if survive that period of time. That's why I'm
- 49:02Speaker 1: still alive for surviving my period of time, which can
- 49:04Speaker 1: you imagine if I had been alive during the sixties
- 49:06Speaker 1: or the seventies. Seventies, They mean, they gave you permission
- 49:11Speaker 1: to behave bad right, thank you ladies. Oh man, Roy
- 49:14Speaker 1: has a lot to digest after that. Zoom. I think
- 49:16Speaker 1: he got more than he intended. Well, yeah, he gets, Yes,
- 49:20Speaker 1: that's that's true. But he enjoys it and he's always
- 49:22Speaker 1: a good sport about it. I love my brother Roy. Yeah,
- 49:24Speaker 1: he really took that in stride. Yeah, And I also,
- 49:27Speaker 1: you know, like I do want him to just be happy.
- 49:29Speaker 1: So you know, who's anyone to tell anyone who to
- 49:32Speaker 1: be with. It's like we are the last generation. Well
- 49:34Speaker 1: I am, sweetheart, I'm the last generation of anyone that
- 49:38Speaker 1: will ever have to learn to accept other people's choices.
- 49:43Speaker 1: But you like, in terms of transgender and gay and
- 49:47Speaker 1: bisexual and binary and non binary and and learning all
- 49:50Speaker 1: these things like no one will ever have to learn
- 49:52Speaker 1: this again. I mean, but it is a learning process
- 49:56Speaker 1: for a prolonged amount of time. So like you will
- 49:58Speaker 1: make mistakes, you will have to readdres us it and
- 50:00Speaker 1: it's again you have to give people kind of the
- 50:03Speaker 1: leeway and ability to make a mistake and still move forward.
- 50:06Speaker 1: So who knows who you'll end up with? I keep
- 50:09Speaker 1: telling you, and I will stand by this. I would
- 50:11Speaker 1: like you to be a late life lesbian. Well that's
- 50:13Speaker 1: your desire, Brandon, I know. All right, Well, let's take
- 50:17Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll come back to that. And
- 50:18Speaker 1: our last emission is really going to thrill you. Oh,
- 50:22Speaker 1: thrilled me, thrill you. We'll see about that. I know
- 50:28Speaker 1: how much you love an affair in that type of
- 50:30Speaker 1: interaction assessment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like to hear about
- 50:34Speaker 1: these types of things. Our last emission is about an affair. Okay,
- 50:37Speaker 1: they right, Dear Chelsea. I'm twenty one years old, living
- 50:40Speaker 1: at home for the next two years to finish my
- 50:42Speaker 1: degree over quarantine. I found out that my dad is
- 50:44Speaker 1: having an affair. I was preparing to tell my mom
- 50:47Speaker 1: when my sister told me that my mom was also
- 50:49Speaker 1: cheating on my dad with our neighbor who is also married. Right,
- 50:53Speaker 1: so there are a lot of cheating spouses in the scenario. Okay, wow,
- 50:56Speaker 1: this is like desperate. How's why? This is like days
- 50:59Speaker 1: of our lives? Like Sam through the hourglass. This is
- 51:01Speaker 1: exciting stuff. Okay, we were planning on telling our mom
- 51:04Speaker 1: about the affair, but decided against it after her cheating
- 51:07Speaker 1: was discovered. My sister is older and has since moved out.
- 51:10Speaker 1: But I'm finding myself feeling overwhelmed. He lies every day
- 51:14Speaker 1: that he works late, but I know he's at his
- 51:15Speaker 1: mistress's house. I know that because I broke into his
- 51:17Speaker 1: phone to share his location with me. As far as
- 51:20Speaker 1: I know, my mom's affairs over now, but it has
- 51:22Speaker 1: been on and off for ten years. There are a
- 51:24Speaker 1: lot of complexities here. My father's affair has been going
- 51:27Speaker 1: on for years too. I had a seemingly normal and
- 51:30Speaker 1: healthy family before I found out about everything, and it
- 51:32Speaker 1: makes me sad that I can't completely open up to
- 51:35Speaker 1: my mom. My dad is trashed for other reasons, but
- 51:37Speaker 1: my mom is an amazing person and mother. I'm planning
- 51:40Speaker 1: to live with them for the next two years. Should
- 51:42Speaker 1: I just avoid my dad and stick it out? Or
- 51:44Speaker 1: is living here not worth the trauma? This is I
- 51:48Speaker 1: have some thoughts on this. What are your thoughts? Why
- 51:50Speaker 1: don't you take it? Why don't you go first? Well,
- 51:52Speaker 1: I just, first of all, I think that relationships and
- 51:54Speaker 1: marriages are much more complex than we are prepared to
- 51:59Speaker 1: understand from a young age. So you have this idea
- 52:01Speaker 1: and this archetype of what your family life should look like,
- 52:04Speaker 1: what your parents how they should interact with each other
- 52:06Speaker 1: and the outside world. But a lot of times our
- 52:09Speaker 1: expectations are not going to be met because of these complexities.
- 52:12Speaker 1: Like maybe they have an agreement in place. You don't
- 52:14Speaker 1: know the interworkings of your parents marriage. So I think
- 52:18Speaker 1: you need to give both of them a little bit
- 52:20Speaker 1: more compassion in this because you don't know why they're
- 52:24Speaker 1: still together, like if they're still love there. I think
- 52:26Speaker 1: that there are a lot of elements to any affair.
- 52:29Speaker 1: There are extenuating circumstances on both sides. I would say,
- 52:33Speaker 1: what do you think, Well, I would give your parents
- 52:35Speaker 1: a little bit more wiggle room. You just said, like
- 52:38Speaker 1: you judge, you have such hatred, You're so angry, You're
- 52:40Speaker 1: so angry, Like why you don't know what their arrangement
- 52:43Speaker 1: is you don't know what they've been through together, You
- 52:45Speaker 1: don't know the nuances between their relationship. They might just
- 52:48Speaker 1: be hiding it from you and not each other. But
- 52:51Speaker 1: I do think it's an opportunity, if you really care
- 52:53Speaker 1: about the well being and health of your family, like
- 52:56Speaker 1: to sit down and actually have an open conversation with
- 52:58Speaker 1: both of them altogether, like a family meeting, Like you
- 53:01Speaker 1: and your sister have all the information you need to
- 53:03Speaker 1: know that you're living in a dysfunctional house or it
- 53:06Speaker 1: could feel dysfunctional. It might not be, but it sounds
- 53:10Speaker 1: like it is dysfunctional and confronting both of your parents,
- 53:13Speaker 1: and like, why not do that? You know, that's a
- 53:16Speaker 1: good way to participate in this, because yeah, if you
- 53:18Speaker 1: stay there and you don't address the situation head on,
- 53:21Speaker 1: I think you're going to get very very angry and
- 53:23Speaker 1: very resentful, and then that's just going to cause more
- 53:26Speaker 1: and more drama. I think you could also, though, potentially,
- 53:29Speaker 1: just start investing some energy and time into your parents
- 53:32Speaker 1: separately to kind of figure out where they're at in life.
- 53:34Speaker 1: You know, if your parents are both happy separately, how
- 53:38Speaker 1: they're feeling in these situations. I think as you get older,
- 53:41Speaker 1: you have to remove yourself from that parent child relationship.
- 53:44Speaker 1: And if you're really curious about something like this, you know,
- 53:46Speaker 1: have in depth conversations. Maybe present it to your parents
- 53:50Speaker 1: as if you're going through something similar, see what their
- 53:52Speaker 1: take is on it. That you're dating someone or I
- 53:54Speaker 1: don't know, you know what you really have going on,
- 53:56Speaker 1: but you're dating someone and they wanted to cheat on
- 53:58Speaker 1: their spouse or their part there with you, And I
- 54:01Speaker 1: think that there are ways to kind of get answers
- 54:03Speaker 1: before addressing it with them, to get a sense of
- 54:07Speaker 1: kind of where they're at. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely don't
- 54:10Speaker 1: think you can just stay there and not saying anything.
- 54:12Speaker 1: And I think you have to look at saying something
- 54:13Speaker 1: as an investment into your like families future. You know,
- 54:17Speaker 1: this could be a huge turning point for all of
- 54:19Speaker 1: you guys, or they could get divorced and decide that
- 54:21Speaker 1: they are not You know that they were staying together
- 54:23Speaker 1: for the children and now that both of you guys know,
- 54:25Speaker 1: it's no longer a healthy relationship, which is also a
- 54:28Speaker 1: healthy decision. You know, if they were staying together for you,
- 54:31Speaker 1: like to let them know, Hey, guys, we both know
- 54:33Speaker 1: that you're both having sex with other people, so you know,
- 54:36Speaker 1: like the party's over, well not parties over, but like
- 54:39Speaker 1: pressure is off. Maybe just like the illusion is gone.
- 54:42Speaker 1: We're not under some illusion that you're in a happy marriage,
- 54:45Speaker 1: So why are you together and what are we doing
- 54:47Speaker 1: as a family. I think that's totally reasonable and actually
- 54:50Speaker 1: really responsible, and I would be really proud of myself
- 54:52Speaker 1: if I had done something like that with my family.
- 54:54Speaker 1: I mean, my parents weren't having sex with other people,
- 54:56Speaker 1: but well maybe they were, who knows exactly. I hope
- 55:01Speaker 1: they were. Well I hope my mother was anyway, because
- 55:03Speaker 1: if she had sex only with my father that would
- 55:06Speaker 1: be sad. Well, let us know what's going on. Please
- 55:08Speaker 1: give us an update on if you do have a
- 55:10Speaker 1: conversation with them, if you find anything else out. I mean,
- 55:12Speaker 1: this is pretty fucking juicy, so I don't want to
- 55:14Speaker 1: lose track of this story. Yeah, I know, this is
- 55:16Speaker 1: probably one of the juiciest stories we've had so far,
- 55:18Speaker 1: so please keep in touch. I would also like to
- 55:20Speaker 1: encourage our listeners who have a fair problems or aware
- 55:24Speaker 1: of affairs that are happening, or in an affair or
- 55:27Speaker 1: having relationship problems with their partner, like you can call
- 55:30Speaker 1: in together, you can write in together if you want
- 55:32Speaker 1: to receive our counseling as a couple. I'm very good
- 55:36Speaker 1: at that too, and I think you think you probably
- 55:38Speaker 1: are good at that too. Write it could be I've
- 55:39Speaker 1: not tested it out yet, but I have. Yeah, I've
- 55:42Speaker 1: done some couples counseling indirectly. But like you know, if
- 55:45Speaker 1: you have a friendship that's in trauma, or you have
- 55:49Speaker 1: a relationship that you know is in trouble, and you
- 55:51Speaker 1: can get someone to agree to do it with you,
- 55:53Speaker 1: we won't show your face unless you're comfortable with that.
- 55:55Speaker 1: We don't have to do that. It can just be
- 55:57Speaker 1: a phone call, it could be a private zoom, but
- 55:59Speaker 1: just so you know, we're open to that. I think
- 56:01Speaker 1: that's where I thrive, sweetheart. I think that is where
- 56:03Speaker 1: we thrive to. Actually, well, that's a wrap on this,
- 56:05Speaker 1: so I don't know if there was a better way
- 56:07Speaker 1: to go out. Wow, Okay, well shitsky doodle on that one.
- 56:11Speaker 1: Um by Brandon. If you want any assistance with your partner,
- 56:18Speaker 1: your best friend, really anything, you can write into Dear
- 56:21Speaker 1: Chelsea Project at gmail dot com, Dear Chelsea Project at
- 56:25Speaker 1: gmail dot com and just for you know, all the
- 56:27Speaker 1: listeners who are listening to this episode today, just take
- 56:30Speaker 1: some solace in the fact that Roy will not be
- 56:32Speaker 1: giving you the advice I will, and Brandon will