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123: Do You Ever WonderFest? · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 6: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 2: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. And
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  Speaker 2: I am Misty.
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  Speaker 3: We're coming to you live via digital recording from Wonderfest
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  Speaker 3: here in sunny Louisville.
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  Speaker 2: Sort of overcast.
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  Speaker 1: Louisville, Kentucky.
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  Speaker 7: We haven't got towed yet. That's good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 7: We're going to tow this while we're in the truck.
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  Speaker 8: So, yes, we are at Wonderfest here in the level
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  Speaker 8: of model geeks.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: What else have we... If you haven't been to it, yeah,
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  Speaker 9: definitely go check it out. It's lots of stuff. But
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  Speaker 9: their main core crowd is like.
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  Speaker 2: Nerds. No. Officially vinyl modelers. If you're into vinyl model
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  Speaker 2: kits and actually doing a lot of modeling, there's probably...
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll.
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  Speaker 9: Say the biggest in the country, but I'd say one
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  Speaker 9: of the biggest assemblages of models and modelers.
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  Speaker 2: And they have a competition.
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  Speaker 9: They have a whole contest that goes on every year
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  Speaker 9: and a display that everybody can be part of. So
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  Speaker 9: it's pretty amazing how many people show up with models
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  Speaker 9: and models that they've spent.
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  Speaker 2: A ridiculous amount of time on.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah I'm lucky I'd glue my hands together if I
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  Speaker 8: tried it dude I.
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  Speaker 10: Totally would too I used to do model cars I
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  Speaker 10: think a lot I was pretty fucking awesome at it
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  Speaker 10: but I'm awesome at most things but I.
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  Speaker 2: Just didn't you get the green hornet car that one
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  Speaker 2: time oh yeah.
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  Speaker 10: To do the make and take of the green hornet
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  Speaker 10: yeah so I'll walk by this year I'll walk by
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  Speaker 10: their make and take and I'm like dude he's putting
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  Speaker 10: together a fucking pony that's not badass dude had a
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  Speaker 10: fucking emo haircut and like fucking wrist cut marks and
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  Speaker 10: he's fucking building.
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  Speaker 7: A pony for god's sake.
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  Speaker 2: It's ironic That's something.
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  Speaker 10: It was an orange pony, too, so you can't even
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  Speaker 10: pretend like it's badass. It's not even, like, a cool pony.
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  Speaker 7: It's orange.
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  Speaker 2: If there is such a thing as a cool pony.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, my little ponies were awesome, but just not the
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  Speaker 10: orange ones. No, I guess Applejack was okay. He was orange.
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  Speaker 7: I've watched way too much My Little Ponies the past
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  Speaker 7: couple days.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 10: Because I've been watching a lot of the mashups. I
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  Speaker 10: watched The Watchmen and My Little Pony's mashup, and that
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  Speaker 10: was fucking awesome. I don't care what anybody says. I
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  Speaker 10: watched another one, too, but I totally forgot.
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  Speaker 5: What it was.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen these.
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  Speaker 7: You don't see the mashups?
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  Speaker 10: It's fucking hilarious. I've seen a couple of them. I
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  Speaker 10: can't remember the other one I watched, but it was
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  Speaker 10: fucking hilarious, too. Yeah, I watched The Watchmen last.
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  Speaker 7: That's why it's more fresh in my memory.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with it. Awesome.
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  Speaker 7: Chock full of awesome. Oodles and noodles of awesome.
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  Speaker 2: My Little Pony.
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  Speaker 7: My Little Pony was awesome. Fireflies was my favorite.
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  Speaker 2: Which one was Lightning Butt?
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  Speaker 7: That was Firefly.
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  Speaker 2: Alright, that was my favorite because it was Lightning Butt.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Lightning Bolt Butt. He was my favorite. He was pink.
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  Speaker 2: He was pretty awesome. Blue Lightning Bolt.
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  Speaker 7: He had wings.
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  Speaker 10: He flew.
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  Speaker 7: He was.
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  Speaker 2: A pegasus. Alright, so that is where we're at.
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  Speaker 8: We'll probably check in the convention there and figure out.
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  Speaker 2: And check in with peoples as we go along.
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  Speaker 8: We've got a few we're attempting to sit down and
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  Speaker 8: talk to, so that should be fun along the way.
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  Speaker 2: But in the meantime, I guess we can roll into
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  Speaker 2: this week's geek activities. Woo!
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  Speaker 9: For me, a lot of prep stuff doing this, so
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  Speaker 9: I sort of re-watched some stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I did re-watch The Spy Who Loved Me. Man, I forgot.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what I was telling you earlier, Misty.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, a lot of people like the old school
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  Speaker 9: Bond movies and they love the Sean Connery ones because
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  Speaker 9: he was like more hardcore and whatever. I grew up
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  Speaker 9: with a lot of the Roger Moore ones, I think,
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  Speaker 9: because they just hit at cable at that point. And
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  Speaker 9: I watched a lot of goofy movies on cable and
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  Speaker 9: I thought, you know, it's got gadgets and cool stuff
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  Speaker 9: in it.
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  Speaker 2: So, OK, let's watch that.
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  Speaker 9: I think I forgot just how ridiculous they are.
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  Speaker 10: I have never in my entire life seen an entire
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  Speaker 10: Bond movie.
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  Speaker 7: I was going to say Sean Connery movie.
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  Speaker 2: You've seen those, but just not a Bond version.
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  Speaker 10: Maybe like one or two. I guess I'm not a
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  Speaker 10: big Sean Connery fanatic. I've not seen any James Bond
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  Speaker 10: movies all the way through. I'm okay with that, but
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  Speaker 10: Jay's having like a meltdown. Like, we have to watch it.
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  Speaker 2: We gotta watch it. I'm like, dude. Old ones or
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  Speaker 2: more recent?
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  Speaker 7: He wants to watch all of them. All of them.
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  Speaker 8: See, I'm saying, if you want to do, like, a
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  Speaker 8: whole sub-series of Misty's thoughts on Bond movies, I'm all
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  Speaker 8: for that, because that could be entertaining.
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  Speaker 10: See, Jay's more of the Sean, he's more of the
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  Speaker 10: Sean Connery.
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  Speaker 2: I can see that.
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  Speaker 10: His mom was in love with Sean Connery.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Apparently, according to him, his dad likes to pretend like
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  Speaker 10: he looks like Sean Connery, and he does not look
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  Speaker 10: like Sean Connery. Not really.
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  Speaker 7: You've seen his dad, you've seen Sean Connery. Could they
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  Speaker 7: in any way be mistaken for each other?
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  Speaker 2: That's not really what I think of when I see
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  Speaker 2: his dad, but all right. I know.
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  Speaker 7: His dad has British teeth.
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  Speaker 9: But this, yeah, this one is a Roger Moore one,
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  Speaker 9: and it's, yeah, it's quite silly. But I remember as
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  Speaker 9: a kid loving that one because that one has, to me,
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  Speaker 9: everybody else loves the, like, fancy, like, street racing cars
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  Speaker 9: that you can actually go out and buy if you're
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  Speaker 9: a millionaire. I always loved that one because that's the
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  Speaker 9: one with the underwater car.
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  Speaker 7: Dude, I want an underwater car.
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  Speaker 8: Like, I had the little Hot Wheels of it, and
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  Speaker 8: you've probably seen it. Yeah, it's a freaking underwater car.
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  Speaker 8: It drives around underwater.
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  Speaker 2: It's awesome.
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  Speaker 9: I thought that was so cool. It's the first appearance
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  Speaker 9: of Jaws. I thought Jaws was pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 2: When I was a kid. Was there a shark in it?
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  Speaker 2: Kind of. He's equally as frightening.
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  Speaker 7: Richard Keel, right? I got that one. I don't even
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  Speaker 7: see this movie.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, you are a dork.
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  Speaker 7: His boyfriend loves him some Richard Keel. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 7: Because he is awesome. It is the right character, right?
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  Speaker 7: I am getting it right.
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  Speaker 2: I believe so. But yeah, he's fucking awesome.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, again, that part becomes so ridiculous, but yet
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  Speaker 8: I'm still like, no, he's awesome. And he is quite
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  Speaker 8: a formidable foe the entire time. He just, he, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: he just undying villain. So, uh, yeah, that, that's, it's
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  Speaker 8: all fun. And Carolyn Moreau is in that one. So
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  Speaker 8: I was kind of rewatching that and, um, yeah, it
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  Speaker 8: doesn't have enough screen time, but I don't know that
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  Speaker 8: she should have shoved Barbara Bach out of the way.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know why she didn't get the starring role.
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  Speaker 8: Cause I didn't, It seems a little off, really, because
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  Speaker 8: Barbara Bach's kind of iffy in that role. Yeah, back when,
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  Speaker 8: you know.
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  Speaker 7: There's no Catherine Bach, I'll tell you that.
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  Speaker 11: No.
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  Speaker 8: No, most people can't be Catherine. In fact, Catherine Bach
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  Speaker 8: can't be Catherine Bach these days.
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  Speaker 7: I never thought she was that hot in the first place.
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  Speaker 7: That's just me.
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  Speaker 2: You were busy with Bo. You didn't have time for her.
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  Speaker 7: Dude, he was totally pretty.
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  Speaker 2: He's still pretty.
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  Speaker 1: He is.
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  Speaker 8: He's gorgeous.
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  Speaker 7: We were talking about that when we were watching the
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  Speaker 7: finale of Smallville.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did last night when I called to talk about.
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  Speaker 9: coming here i was like oh yeah and smallville's on
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  Speaker 9: and haven't really paid attention to it in years but
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  Speaker 9: tonight's the finale it's.
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  Speaker 10: Like holy shit that's still on yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I know that's what that's what i would say every
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  Speaker 9: season when i would say it i'd be like really
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  Speaker 9: tell me he's at least flying tell me he's at
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  Speaker 9: least got a damn cost no.
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  Speaker 8: Fuck what's this blur bullshit just making superman for god's
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  Speaker 8: sake this has gone on for like nine years She.
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  Speaker 7: Was on forever. I watched it when it first came on,
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  Speaker 7: but I just didn't.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing, I liked it. I mean, I liked
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  Speaker 2: it for the first, you know, half of the run.
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  Speaker 7: You liked it because it had Chloe in it.
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  Speaker 2: I do like Chloe. Chloe was freaking adorable.
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  Speaker 10: I liked Lex, and Lex was hot, but he has
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  Speaker 10: not aged as well as the, uh, Clark.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: And none of them fucking age as well as John Schneider.
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  Speaker 10: That fucking guy is gorgeous.
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  Speaker 8: He's... God.
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  Speaker 2: He is pretty for an old dude. He has held up. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I think he looks better now.
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  Speaker 10: He looks better in person even than he does in, like,
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  Speaker 10: TV shows. Usually they pretty him up for the TV shows,
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  Speaker 10: and then you see him and you're like, uh, uh.
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  Speaker 7: But, God, he was gorgeous.
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  Speaker 10: He was so fucking nice. God, I want to hug him.
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  Speaker 2: You did.
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  Speaker 7: I want to hug him again, like, right now.
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  Speaker 2: Every day.
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  Speaker 7: Every day.
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  Speaker 2: Start off your day with a hug from John Schneider.
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  Speaker 10: Dude, seriously, could there be a better way to start
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  Speaker 10: a day? I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see.
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  Speaker 10: I'll see if I can make cupcakes.
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  Speaker 1: That would be awesome, too.
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  Speaker 2: He shows up with cupcakes and a hug.
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  Speaker 7: Fresh baked. He made them, too, from scratch. I've seen
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  Speaker 7: them from.
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  Speaker 10: Scratch, too.
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  Speaker 2: If you can set that up.
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  Speaker 7: That would be so awesome.
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  Speaker 2: He was pretty nice. We might be able to talk
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  Speaker 2: him into it. I don't know. I'm not sure what
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  Speaker 2: Jay liked. As long as it's cupcakes. As long as
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  Speaker 2: he gets some cupcakes. And maybe once in a while
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  Speaker 2: a hug, you know.
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  Speaker 7: He would do like the bro hug. The bro hug.
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  Speaker 2: He'd fist bump him. Yeah, he'd get a fist bump.
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  Speaker 7: A manly handshake. Jay's more a fan of a manly handshake.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You can't go wrong with that.
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  Speaker 8: So, yeah, we randomly watched that sort of halfway last
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  Speaker 8: night when we were talking about coming here.
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  Speaker 7: It was quiet.
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  Speaker 2: I muted it.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't want to hear what was going on. It's
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  Speaker 7: going to ruin it if I'm... It was interesting.
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  Speaker 9: I'm just like, you started way too late. Like, they
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  Speaker 9: should have done this, all of this stuff that they
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  Speaker 9: did at the end here.
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  Speaker 2: The whole last, like.
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  Speaker 9: episode worth of stuff I'm like that's kind of cool
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  Speaker 9: why wouldn't like this an entire season's arc of a
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  Speaker 9: story and then like go ahead and give him the
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  Speaker 9: damn suit let him fly around, and, like, do, like,
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  Speaker 9: a couple of seasons of him actually being Superman, I
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  Speaker 9: know you're supposed to be Smallville, but I'm like, you've
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  Speaker 9: worn that out, after, like, four or five seasons, the
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  Speaker 9: show should have switched its title to Metropolis, it should
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  Speaker 9: have focused on him in the city, and not worried
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  Speaker 9: about the Smallville nonsense anymore, and made him superman and
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  Speaker 9: went ahead and like done a whole new storyline but but.
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  Speaker 2: No they beat that thing to death.
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  Speaker 9: And that's you know i give them credit every once
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  Speaker 9: in a while they would still turn in interesting episodes
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  Speaker 9: when i would catch it You know, they brought in
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  Speaker 9: all the other superheroes after a while.
• 10:32
  Speaker 8: Okay, the Wonder Twins was a bad idea. But, you know,
• 10:34
  Speaker 8: Hawkman was kind of cool. Hawkman?
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  Speaker 2: Hawkman was on there, and that guy was cool.
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  Speaker 8: Like, the costume was the real Hawkman costume from the comics.
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  Speaker 2: Like, it actually looked pretty good. So, again, that part
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  Speaker 2: of the storyline was kind of cool.
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  Speaker 9: What I saw of it last season, that's about the
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  Speaker 9: only one I saw last season.
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  Speaker 2: I just kind of.
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  Speaker 7: I haven't seen it in years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Years and years and years.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. They just really should have. turned it
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  Speaker 2: around midway in I think I quit.
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  Speaker 7: Watching it when they killed off his dad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I think that was about the last season I watched.
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  Speaker 10: It regularly like you know what fuck you show I
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  Speaker 10: don't want to watch you anymore get rid of John
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  Speaker 10: Schneider fuck you.
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  Speaker 8: Well he returned last night for his special appearance they
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  Speaker 8: brought everybody back last night including Lex.
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  Speaker 7: Showed off his sewing ability apparently I.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: Was just amazed they got Michael Rosenbaum back.
• 11:21
  Speaker 7: What the fuck has he got to do?
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  Speaker 8: That was the other thing. I figured they pissed him
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  Speaker 8: off and he would never come back, but then again,
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  Speaker 8: I was.
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: Like, well.
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  Speaker 10: They've been working on Sorority Boys 2.
• 11:28
  Speaker 8: I was like, what's he done since then, actually? So, yeah,
• 11:31
  Speaker 8: he'll probably take that one-episode paycheck.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: The only other thing I'd watched lately, I did watch
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: I Love You, Philip Morris. I don't know if you're
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: familiar with this one.
• 11:41
  Speaker 10: What's his face in it?
• 11:43
  Speaker 8: You would probably hate it initially because of the cast.
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  Speaker 8: Because it's got Jim Carrey in it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, fuck Jim Carrey.
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  Speaker 12: See?
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  Speaker 2: I hate that guy.
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  Speaker 8: I went into it very reluctantly because I'm so sick
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  Speaker 8: of his stupid, over-the-top, ridiculous comedic performances. That's not what's
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  Speaker 8: going on here. It's got Ewan McGregor, too. Ewan McGregor
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  Speaker 8: is the one to watch in this.
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  Speaker 2: Like, his... character is so.
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  Speaker 9: Awesome and like it's another one I'm watching him going
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  Speaker 9: I've seen him in like freaking Star Wars and crap
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  Speaker 9: so I kind of forget oh yeah he's actually a
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  Speaker 9: really good actor like I've seen him in so much
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  Speaker 9: other mediocre stuff in the last several years that I'm
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  Speaker 9: just like it's been a while since I've seen him
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  Speaker 9: turn in like a really good performance and he's really
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  Speaker 9: good in this like it's he's They're believable. And that's
• 12:28
  Speaker 9: the thing that probably a lot of people, well, certain
• 12:31
  Speaker 9: types of people are going to have a problem with,
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  Speaker 9: because it's basically a prison love story.
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  Speaker 2: Jim Carrey plays.
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  Speaker 9: This guy, and he's a married guy, he's a cop,
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  Speaker 9: he's got all this stuff going on, and he gets
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  Speaker 9: himself into some crazy trouble, and he ends up in prison.
• 12:45
  Speaker 7: Do shenanigans ensue?
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of shenanigans in this movie, let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you.
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  Speaker 1: Does hilarity ensue? No hilarity?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, actually there is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there are times when it is just.
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  Speaker 8: seriously a laughing out loud kind of comedy and then
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  Speaker 8: there's times where.
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  Speaker 2: Like whoa okay this is kind of serious so I
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  Speaker 2: bet it's.
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  Speaker 10: No let's go to prison or let's go to jail
• 13:06
  Speaker 10: no thank god it's not was it prison or jail
• 13:09
  Speaker 10: I fucking loved that movie I ain't gonna lie it
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  Speaker 10: had Joe Bennett from uh Arrested Development I loved.
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  Speaker 8: That movie this is not that movie it had Dax
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  Speaker 8: Shepard I loved that movie I do remember Dax was
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  Speaker 8: in it I would almost watch it cause Dax is pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Funny but it was awesome This is not that.
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  Speaker 9: His character was always gay, so it's not like it's
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  Speaker 9: some sort of, oh, he magically finds this in prison.
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  Speaker 2: He had this secret life going on, and then as
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  Speaker 2: he gets busted.
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  Speaker 8: He comes to terms with the fact that I'm going
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  Speaker 8: to turn my life around, I'm going to be who
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  Speaker 8: I feel like I need to be. So then you
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  Speaker 8: enter into this relationship with this other prisoner.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Who is Ewan McGregor, and it's very genuine. It's one
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: of those that I'm so.
• 13:52
  Speaker 9: amazed to see any relationship feel real in a movie
• 13:55
  Speaker 9: regardless of the gender so that this one is like
• 13:57
  Speaker 9: usually they ham up any you know gay relationship in
• 14:00
  Speaker 9: any movie tv show whatever to the point that it's
• 14:03
  Speaker 9: so ridiculous that you know this didn't really feel like
• 14:06
  Speaker 9: that like it actually just felt like a real relationship
• 14:09
  Speaker 9: they felt like they were just in a relationship They
• 14:12
  Speaker 9: happen to be in prison, but it was still, like, pretty, like,
• 14:15
  Speaker 9: normal otherwise. As normal as you can get as a
• 14:18
  Speaker 9: prison relationship. But that part's kind of cool. And then
• 14:21
  Speaker 9: once it gets out, it gets more interesting because then
• 14:24
  Speaker 9: he gets out of, you know, Jim Carrey gets out
• 14:26
  Speaker 9: of prison and he works to get Ewan McGregor out
• 14:27
  Speaker 9: of prison. And then they go on and try to have, like,
• 14:29
  Speaker 9: a life. And then the really, like, the most interesting
• 14:33
  Speaker 9: thing about this movie is the fact that it's all real.
• 14:36
  Speaker 9: It's all based on an actual guy.
• 14:37
  Speaker 10: Hmm.
• 14:38
  Speaker 9: And everything that went on with this guy, this guy is, like,
• 14:41
  Speaker 9: such a good scam artist. Like, and that's how he
• 14:45
  Speaker 9: originally gets himself in trouble with the basics. But as
• 14:47
  Speaker 9: he gets out, like, he, what all does he do?
• 14:51
  Speaker 9: He convinces people he's a lawyer. Never been to a
• 14:54
  Speaker 9: day of law school in his life. But he's in
• 14:56
  Speaker 9: court talking up cases to a judge. And, like, he's
• 14:58
  Speaker 9: got everybody convinced he's a lawyer. He gets a CEO
• 15:01
  Speaker 9: job at, like, a Fortune 500 company by making up
• 15:05
  Speaker 9: everything just by scamming the guy in the interview.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:08
  Speaker 8: He, um, he then at some point, like he's, he's
• 15:10
  Speaker 8: like ripping off and bezzling huge amounts of money.
• 15:13
  Speaker 9: He gets into prison again at some point. He like
• 15:17
  Speaker 9: escapes from prison like four or five different times.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: And this is all real.
• 15:21
  Speaker 9: This guy, like all the plots and shit that this
• 15:24
  Speaker 9: guy does to escape from all these different types of
• 15:26
  Speaker 9: prison facilities that he's in.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Are all a true story.
• 15:30
  Speaker 9: Like, this guy actually did all of this stuff. And that,
• 15:32
  Speaker 9: to me, is the most amazing part of it, is
• 15:35
  Speaker 9: the fact that this.
• 15:36
  Speaker 8: Was a real guy and all these crazy things that
• 15:38
  Speaker 8: are happening really went on in the real world.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of strange.
• 15:43
  Speaker 8: And Jim Carrey does not overdo his performance.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: He's, I mean... Yeah. Cause I mean, it's, it's, it's
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: kind of Truman show.
• 15:51
  Speaker 9: Like, you know, it's like, I liked him in that
• 15:52
  Speaker 9: he's got that little bit of like overtly cheesy thing
• 15:56
  Speaker 9: that he does, but it really works on this character
• 15:58
  Speaker 9: because this character had to be that way.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 16:01
  Speaker 9: He had to be able to bullshit people and you
• 16:03
  Speaker 9: kind of get that vibe that this guy could do that.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: You know, he actually is that.
• 16:08
  Speaker 9: Skilled at, you know, just scamming people and getting them
• 16:11
  Speaker 9: to trust him, even though he's totally screwing them over.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: So it's, again, that was, that was a lot better.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: And it's just well done too.
• 16:19
  Speaker 8: I mean, I figured I was going in for those
• 16:21
  Speaker 8: performances that everybody talked about, but like, it's also well
• 16:23
  Speaker 8: put together.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Like it's shot really well.
• 16:25
  Speaker 9: The way the director like features everything and works in
• 16:29
  Speaker 9: this like ongoing storyline.
• 16:31
  Speaker 8: He works in really cool music cues along the way.
• 16:33
  Speaker 8: It's just, it's a lot better put together than I
• 16:36
  Speaker 8: didn't know. I had such bad expectations going in because
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: of the Jim Carrey factor that I was really, really
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: surprised with how much I liked it.
• 16:43
  Speaker 10: I will probably never watch it simply because of the
• 16:46
  Speaker 10: Jim Carrey factor.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: I really don't like him. I think you can get
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: past that.
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: Again, as much as I don't like him now, I
• 16:53
  Speaker 8: was surprised how quickly I kind of got over that
• 16:56
  Speaker 8: and just got interested in the character.
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: You know how very unforgiving I am?
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've liked him in the serious stuff. I
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: don't appreciate it.
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: I liked him in The Truman Show, and that's it.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you seen The Majestic?
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: No.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't hate him in The Majestic.
• 17:08
  Speaker 9: It's a weird, cheesy movie. Like, the movie's not as
• 17:11
  Speaker 9: good as these other two. But his performance wasn't bad.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: He can play. That's probably his most normal character ever.
• 17:18
  Speaker 10: I don't want to give him another shot. He already
• 17:21
  Speaker 10: blew all his shots with me. I'm okay with The
• 17:23
  Speaker 10: Truman Show, and that's it.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I don't leave it at that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: He's another one of those and we just brought that up.
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: I don't want to tip the scales.
• 17:31
  Speaker 9: Well, it's one of those we brought it up lately
• 17:33
  Speaker 9: of like a person's personal life if you can separate
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: that from the performance.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Because the thing is, as a person, he seems.
• 17:39
  Speaker 9: Ridiculous and he seems so annoying and hammy and always
• 17:44
  Speaker 9: looking to get attention at every turn. And even, like,
• 17:46
  Speaker 9: lately they were kind of giving him shit because now he's, like,
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: trying so hard. He still wants an Oscar. He keeps
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: trying to do those kind of roles. And they were
• 17:54
  Speaker 9: sort of making fun of him even for this role. Like,
• 17:55
  Speaker 9: it was something he was trying so hard to do.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Please, I'm a serious actor. Give me an Oscar.
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: If Jamie Foxx can get one.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, see, there you go.
• 18:04
  Speaker 9: But yeah, I almost felt like maybe it was that situation,
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: but I can separate that as much as I don't
• 18:11
  Speaker 9: like his behavior in the outside world.
• 18:13
  Speaker 10: I don't give a shit about his behavior in the
• 18:14
  Speaker 10: outside world. Most of his movies suck ass. I can't
• 18:16
  Speaker 10: get past that. He fucked up the Grinch, and that's
• 18:20
  Speaker 10: sacred territory right there.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I won't let that one slide. I'm sorry.
• 18:23
  Speaker 10: No.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I'm still pissed at Ron Howard for.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: That, too.
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: I haven't seen it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 10: I will never watch it, but the fact that it's
• 18:29
  Speaker 10: out there existing kind of pisses me off, and I
• 18:31
  Speaker 10: will never forgive that, and I will not give him
• 18:33
  Speaker 10: another chance. Yeah, I saw The Truman Show. before he
• 18:34
  Speaker 10: did The Grinch. He crossed the line.
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I can get on board with most of that,
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: but I'll still try to put that aside and watch
• 18:43
  Speaker 8: a performance.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Not me.
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: I know, that's because you're hard-headed, but I will try
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: to watch a performance for the performance, and this actually works.
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: I think if you can get past not liking Jim
• 18:53
  Speaker 9: Carrey like a lot of people do now, it's actually
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: a really good movie, but that's most of what I've watched.
• 18:59
  Speaker 10: I watched several things. I can't remember what they all
• 19:02
  Speaker 10: are at this very moment, but I will try my best.
• 19:05
  Speaker 10: I did watch Ensue in the Darkness, because I think
• 19:09
  Speaker 10: I'm cheating on my Sean Patrick Flannery right here.
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: I love me some Carl Urban.
• 19:13
  Speaker 10: Now, because he is just chock full of just, ugh,
• 19:16
  Speaker 10: he's so sexy. So I watched Ensue in the Darkness,
• 19:19
  Speaker 10: which I was pissed at this movie, because I was
• 19:21
  Speaker 10: pissed at everybody in this movie, because everybody's fucking retarded. Like,
• 19:24
  Speaker 10: just stupid shit.
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: Like, alright, two girls.
• 19:28
  Speaker 10: I guess they at some point were with a bunch
• 19:29
  Speaker 10: of other people and then they just took off on
• 19:31
  Speaker 10: their own in Argentina.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Good idea.
• 19:34
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you're riding your bikes. Two girls, two hot chicks
• 19:37
  Speaker 10: alone in Argentina.
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, this is going to go well.
• 19:42
  Speaker 10: And so, God, I was just so mad at these girls.
• 19:47
  Speaker 10: One of them was Amber Heard and she's just so, gosh,
• 19:49
  Speaker 10: she's so beautiful.
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: But I was just.
• 19:51
  Speaker 10: Mad because the other girl was the one who got kidnapped.
• 19:53
  Speaker 10: If you're going to kidnap them, I guess the other
• 19:54
  Speaker 10: chick was kind of slutty. So I guess you had
• 19:56
  Speaker 10: the slutty girl and the not slutty girl.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I'm still going with Amber Heard.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 19:59
  Speaker 10: Have you seen the other girl?
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: Her name is Odette some shit.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: Odette, whatever.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: She's hot.
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: But she's all like, hey, look at me. I'm sexy.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Right. And I also don't have a shot with Ambers.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: I got a better shot than you do.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: You do have a better shot than I do.
• 20:13
  Speaker 13: I do.
• 20:14
  Speaker 10: But, yeah, they end up in Argentina and they miss
• 20:17
  Speaker 10: their plane because they're a bunch of... First, they miss
• 20:19
  Speaker 10: their bus because, God forbid, they fucking not get drunk
• 20:21
  Speaker 10: and hung over and miss their bus.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Woo-hoo, party girls. Yeah, totally.
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: And then they're out somewhere and Amber heard and her
• 20:29
  Speaker 10: friend getting a fight over something. So Amber just fucking
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: leaves her ass. by a fucking pond out in the
• 20:35
  Speaker 10: middle of fucking nowhere a waterfall bitch gets kidnapped i'm
• 20:39
  Speaker 10: like i'm gonna leave this girl in the middle of
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: the wilderness by herself in argentina no i'm gonna add
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: argentina to the list of countries that i'm never gonna
• 20:49
  Speaker 10: fucking go to art it's already probably on there argentina
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: and australia fuck a bunch of both of those countries
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: because everything there wants to kill you either i'm gonna
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: kidnap you and sell you Or everything that can fucking
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: eat you will eat you.
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: It's just, nah.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so far we haven't heard from anyone from Australia.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Because they're dead.
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: They haven't called in, they haven't written in to tell
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: us that they've survived whatever it is that's trying to
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: kill them there.
• 21:12
  Speaker 10: They're getting eaten by koala bears at this point.
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: So if you're out there in Australia, which I know
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: we've got a few people that are, let us know
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: that there are things that aren't trying to kill you there.
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: I'm not buying it.
• 21:23
  Speaker 10: I think everything in Australia and Argentina wants.
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: To kill you.
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: I guess in Argentina it's more the people.
• 21:28
  Speaker 10: They want to kill you and, oh, I guess they
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: will sell you and then kill you.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: That might be true. I don't know if we have
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: anyone in Argentina.
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: If we do, let us know if you've been kidnapped
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: or are a kidnapper and let us know your take
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: on the whole situation.
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, dude, totally.
• 21:41
  Speaker 11: But, yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: I was kind of mad at Carl Urban because, spoiler,
• 21:45
  Speaker 10: he gets killed like a bitch.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I'm mad.
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: I was mad.
• 21:50
  Speaker 10: You don't fucking... Okay, I'm totally going to spoil this
• 21:53
  Speaker 10: right now. You never fucking turn your back on the guy.
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: Who has been trying to kill you.
• 21:58
  Speaker 11: Ever.
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: I don't care if you have a gun.
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: You never look away from him because chances are he's
• 22:03
  Speaker 10: got another gun. Fucker. I'm mad.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Haven't you watched movies before, Carl Urban?
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: You would think.
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: God.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: You're in them. God. You would know the rules by now.
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: Dude, seriously.
• 22:15
  Speaker 10: And then after that I watched Doom. Because following along
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: with the Carl Urban theme.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I forgot he was even in that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: I liked that movie. It was so ridiculous. I don't
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: care about anybody.
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: It was fun.
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: I was kind of thrown back. Oh, I forgot one
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: that I should mention that one first. I watched Race
• 22:31
  Speaker 10: to Witch Mountain.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: I'm going to tie these two together.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:33
  Speaker 10: We watched Race to Witch Mountain, which had The Rock
• 22:36
  Speaker 10: in it. And it's a kid's movie.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: It's a Disney movie.
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: It wasn't bad.
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: I didn't know that.
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: Kids were fucking aliens. I guess I don't know if
• 22:44
  Speaker 10: that's any different. That's not like a surprise. I'm not
• 22:45
  Speaker 10: ruining anything right there. They pretty much tell you right
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: at the beginning, oh, a spaceship landed.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Pretty sure that's why they're going to Witch Mountain.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: I didn't know.
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: This was Jay's idea to watch this.
• 22:55
  Speaker 11: By the way.
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: I don't want any of this piled on me.
• 22:57
  Speaker 10: He was the one in control of the remote.
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: He wanted to watch it because you know what? The
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: Rock is fucking awesome.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: The Rock is pretty awesome. Can't argue with that.
• 23:05
  Speaker 10: So the race to Witch Mountain was not as... It
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: was a bad angle. That brought it back to the
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: fact that then we watched Doom... And hearing The Rock
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: say fuck after watching Race to Witch Mountain, I was
• 23:15
  Speaker 10: just like, oh my god, The Rock.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: Said a bad word. Like, how do you go from
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: being in.
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: A Disney movie to being in Doom.
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: And saying fuck? And he said it quite a bit, too.
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's gotten so far away from that. Well, I
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: guess Fast Five withstanding. I mean, you know, the Tooth
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: Fairy and the, what was the one where he's raising
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: the little girl?
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: He's the football player. I don't know, I blocked all
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: that shit. I haven't watched any of that. Yeah, I
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: was like, he's done so many, like, kiddified movies that, yeah, he's, he's, ugh.
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: He's going to pacify his career. He better go back
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: to doing some more action stuff.
• 23:47
  Speaker 10: I can't not like The Rock. I don't want to
• 23:49
  Speaker 10: like him. Part of me wants to hate him.
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: Damn it, I can't.
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: He's just.
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: He's The Rock.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't argue with you.
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: He's awesome.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I don't like most wrestlers that turn into actors.
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: Most of his bad, kiddified movies I don't like.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: But damn it, he's funny. He's got a good sense
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: of humor.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: He makes fun of himself more than anybody. Like, he's
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: just charismatic. Charismatic.
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: I love him. But then, yeah, the movie was so cheesy.
• 24:19
  Speaker 10: Doom was just, it was ridiculous.
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: But you know what?
• 24:21
  Speaker 10: Like I said, it was fun. I was laughing. Carl
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: Urban was sexy. That's how I follow along with my
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: Carl Urban. Then I watched, well, it kind of skips around.
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: Jesus Christ.
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: We watched Pitch Black.
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: Because Jay's never seen them, and he wouldn't let me
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: watch The Chronicles of Riddick unless we watched Pitch Black first.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: You'd be lost.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: Actually, no.
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: Barely. They make barely any references whatsoever to it at all.
• 24:48
  Speaker 10: But we watched Pitch Black, which I haven't seen in years.
• 24:50
  Speaker 10: I was kind of bored.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I remember kind of liking it at the time.
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: I remember liking it years ago, but this time I
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: was just like, Maybe I was just wanting this movie
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: to be over so I could watch the next one
• 25:02
  Speaker 10: that had.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: Carl Urban in it.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Probably.
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: Come on, movie, stop. But yeah, it was just, it
• 25:09
  Speaker 10: was cheesy, even for me. And just like the, it
• 25:12
  Speaker 10: was written and the lines, I'm just like.
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: So bad.
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: I just liked it because it wanted, it was such
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: a knockoff Aliens movie. I mean, it so wanted to
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: be Aliens. It just, let's make the creatures a little different,
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: and they have to be in the dark. But other
• 25:26
  Speaker 9: than that.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: It still felt like an Aliens rip-off kind of movie.
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: I remember, I was excited, because that was back when
• 25:31
  Speaker 10: I didn't dislike Vin Diesel.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Vin Diesel, yeah.
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: That's when I actually kind of liked, he wasn't bad
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: at that point.
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: I liked him in Pitch Black.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: It's because I didn't know who he was in Pitch Black.
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: He was, and his voice, oh, he was so sexy
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: in that movie, just because of his voice. He was,
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: at that point, it was before, like, The Pacifier and
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: retarded shit like that.
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: But I liked him, and then.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Then we.
• 25:53
  Speaker 10: Got to the Chronicles of Riddick, and oh my god,
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: that one was even more cheesy and badly written. And
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: I'm not even sure what the hell they had going
• 25:59
  Speaker 10: on with Carl Urban's hair, dude.
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: Have you seen it? It's like a skullet. I'm not
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: even sure what's going on.
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: It's like, it sticks straight up in the front like this,
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: but it's shaved on the sides, and then it's long.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: In the back.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: This is not a good look for anyone, right?
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: It's not, but I kept cropping it just right so
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: that you couldn't see part of his hair.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, see right there.
• 26:22
  Speaker 10: Handsome you just edit this shit out I almost hoped
• 26:26
  Speaker 10: for pan and scan just so they could cut out
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: a lot of the shit that I didn't want to
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: see blasphemy I know right it was so ridiculous it
• 26:34
  Speaker 10: was just chock full of I could every time Karl
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: Urban came I just laughed I'm like really wow just
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: overacting was just ridiculous but I love him what else
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: did I watch The Horde it was alright I give
• 26:52
  Speaker 10: it that much. There's a lot of reading.
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: It's one of them there French movies.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Reading in zombies.
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: It was alright.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: I'm not really sure how I feel about it now.
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  Speaker 10: I think I liked it at the time when I
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: watched it a couple days ago, but now I'm like, hmm.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: Boyfriend was confused. Jay came by. I was like, what
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: the hell are you watching? Sounds like they're talking Klingon.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: I'm like, no, it's just an angry black French guy.
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: Sorry.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Not or.
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: No, not at all. I can't think if I did
• 27:19
  Speaker 10: anything else. Oh, yeah, I don't have much to say
• 27:21
  Speaker 10: about The Horde, really. There was some scenes in there
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: that were really impressive. It just, it starts off a
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: different movie. It starts off like a cop and mob movie,
• 27:32
  Speaker 10: because apparently the mafia guys killed the police officer, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: so the police officers want to go get their revenge
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: on the mob guys, so they go into this, I
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: guess it's like a big abandoned old apartment complex or whatever.
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: There's still like a few tenants in it, because they
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: just kind of took over, because that's what they do,
• 27:47
  Speaker 10: I guess. And then while they're trying to get their revenge,
• 27:52
  Speaker 10: they pretty much get all shot up and shit.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: And then zombies show up. Zombie damn.
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: Then the bad guys and the good guys start working together.
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: And it's wackiness and shenanigans and a lot of dead people.
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: A lot.
• 28:07
  Speaker 14: All right.
• 28:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's all I got.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Anything else before we head back into the convention?
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 28:14
  Speaker 10: All righty.
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: I like totals. There you go.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Alright, we will head back in and see what's going
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: on at Wonderfest.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: I wonder, wonder who wrote the book of love.
• 28:34
  Speaker 15: Tell me, tell me, tell me who wrote the book
• 28:37
  Speaker 15: of love.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I've got to know.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: The answer or there's someone from above.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: I wonder, wonder who.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Please remember to replace the speaker on the post when
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: you leave the theater. Flesh crawls. Blood curdles. The coffin
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: hasn't been built that can hold him.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Dr.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Fives rises again.
• 29:05
  Speaker 12: Fives, wait!
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Dr.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Fives rises again in an even more startling motion picture
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: with a whole new gallery of gruesome gimmicks of torture
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: and murder. See the scorpions embrace. The eagles caress. The
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: sausage machine. See Dr. Fives out-duel his enemies with the
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: most diabolical devices ever created. See Dr. Fives rises again,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: starring Vincent Price as the menacing Fives and Robert Quarry
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: as the evil Biderback.
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: Going, going.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: It's time for another installment of The Art of Being
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: a Movie Geek.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: All right, we're here with artist Belle Dee.
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  Speaker 8: I guess just as we go through this series on artists,
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: just try to figure out how you end up where
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: you are.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Were you always interested in art, even as a kid?
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, absolutely. I used to watch Saturday morning cartoons
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: all the time, Disney movies, whatever. So a lot of
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: my art is very inspired by, like, animation style.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: So, and caricature work.
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Is it something you... planned on doing you know as
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: far as professionally.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Um no not really and i'm only halfway professionally there
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: aren't we all so um i'm i'm just amazed and
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: overwhelmed at the response that i've gotten to the work
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: that i've shared with people on the internet.
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: It's always good when it sort of clicks with people
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: and they kind of find it. But again, you do
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: some good work. It's good to see people appreciate stuff.
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: And it's kind of original in the way you approach it.
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: Is it something you studied extensively or is.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: It more of a self-taught kind of thing?
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: It's absolutely self-taught. I did take some art classes but
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just kind of did what I did.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I didn't really learn any sort of techniques. Actually, I
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: work in Adobe Illustrator, so I had a job where
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: I worked and I had to draw maps and things
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: like that, logos. So I learned a lot about how
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: to use Illustrator through on-work job experience, and I just
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: applied it to my sketch drawings, and that's how I
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: kind of got the style.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: That I have now.
• 32:05
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I've found most of the artists I'm drawn to
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: when I talk to them are self-taught.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I think you sort of find yourself better that way.
• 32:15
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: It seems like it's always more original, the people that
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: are like that.
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: I guess you had already mentioned, I was going to
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: see as far as your style, if it was something
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: specific that drew you to that look or that style,
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: but you were saying cartoons?
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Just cartoons and animation and... any kind of caricature work.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I'm a big Al Hirschfeld fan, so that kind of style,
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: I was like, I want to do that, you know.
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: Did you know enough about, like, artists and animators to
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: know them by name when you were a kid?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: That's pretty hardcore.
• 32:50
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: I was obsessed with Don Bluth for, like, the longest time,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: and then, like, after American Tail came out, because I,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: you know, they released Secret of the M, and I
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: was a big Secret of the M fan, and then...
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: American Tail came out and I was like, this is
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: getting a little sugary for me. I don't know, like,
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: because Secret was so dark.
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's why I always liked it. It's, yeah, that
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: whole creepy overtones. Yeah, you kind of lose when Fievel
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: comes on.
• 33:15
  Speaker 13: Exactly.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: And then, of course, like, when I started getting a little, like,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: older into, like, my teenage years, I was still, like,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: watching other cartoons, but then that's when I started getting into, like,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: heavy metal and, like, rock and roll and other, all
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: these kind of movies that are not really geared towards
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: little kids but adults and um so i was like
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: really excited about that because it's like oh wow there's
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: naked ladies in a cartoon movie wow this.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Is not for kids anymore.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Exactly they're cursing.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: That definitely yeah i remember yeah the first few times
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: i saw that as a kid i was like wait
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: wait it's like it doesn't process it but they.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Don't do this on cartoons on Saturday morning. So, had
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: you also always been a movie fan in general?
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Um, yeah, and I've always been a horror movie fan
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: probably from the time that I was like, like sixth
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: grade or something. That's kind of when I started and
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: nobody in my family really watched horror movies so I
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: kind of had to just sort of fall into it
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: on my own.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: And, um, you know, I grew up watching slasher movies
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: that was all like Friday the 13th and, um, you know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: sleepaway camp and all that kind of stuff. And it
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: wasn't until I was about, you know, 19, 18, 19,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: that I watched Dracula Has Risen from the Grave, the
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Hammer film, for the first time. And then after that,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: it was just, it was all Hammer. And then I
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: had to go back and, like, watch all the Universal
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: films and all that. And I was just like, oh,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: it's like a whole new world. Why didn't somebody tell
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: me about this? And it was just because there wasn't anybody.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: To at the time.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: So at what point did you decide to sort of
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: cross over and work the movies and your love of
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: movies and horror into the artwork?
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: That's a good question.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I don't really remember.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: I think originally I had this idea that I wanted
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: to do pin-up style art, like cheesecake kind of style.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: And then as much as I like to draw pretty girls,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: it kind of got boring and I was like, you know,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: I want to try something that has a little more
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: depth and interest. So I just started, like, drawing pictures of, like, Frankenstein,
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: and I was like, you know, I think I should
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: do more of this. And, of course, like, then I
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: was like, with the Hammer stuff, it's like, why haven't
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: I been doing this all along? I love Hammer, and
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: I love, like, art, like, cartoon art style. It's like,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: why have I not been doing this?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Tie them all together.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 35:55
  Speaker 10: Exactly.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Do you still, I was going to say, what medium?
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: I guess at this point you can almost be exclusively digital,
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: but do you still start off with, like, pencil drawings? Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: It's always just sit down with a sketchbook and sketch
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: out what I want to draw, and then I pretty
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: much just, like, redraw it in Illustrator, and that gives
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: me the option to, like, you know, change colors. If
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: I don't have a definite idea about what I'm going
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: to do, I'm, I can go in there and like
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: play with it a little, which makes it fun.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: You've been a contributor to Little Shop of Horrors and now, um,
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: Rumorg you just got.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: So I mean, those, and the Rumorg is great by
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: Oh, thanks.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: That was awesome.
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: Um, so is it, is it something you're looking to
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: do just more like covers or is it, again, did
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: you just kind of fall into that?
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I have just kind of fallen into it. Actually, um,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: And I don't know, like, I'd like to keep it fun. Like,
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: the minute that it becomes not fun for me anymore,
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know that it's... I'm afraid that that might happen,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: so I'm trying to, like, you know, I want to
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: take some time off to do some more personal work.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: Because it's been a while, I've been doing stuff for
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: other people, and it's like, I'd like to take some
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: time and get back into, like, I just want to
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: do this for fun.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: So.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: I just kind of take it as it comes and
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: see how it goes. I don't really have any... I
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: had a goal of getting in Remorg and that's already happened,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: so now I have to set something else. I don't
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: know what that's going to be yet.
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: Still working on that one. Other than that, is there
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: anything else you're working on? Any other big projects?
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: I think the only other thing that I know for
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: sure that's coming up is the Monsterverse comics are publishing
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: a it's a hammer style book called flesh and blood. And, um,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: I was asked to do a pinup piece for, of
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: some of the characters like, um, and I don't know
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: if it's going to be the issue that's coming out
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: in October or I think it's one of four.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: So, um, I don't know exactly which, which issue that's
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: coming out in, but, um, I'm looking forward to that. Uh,
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: sexy vampire ladies. So that's going to be fun to draw.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Can't go wrong with that. Yeah. Let's see, we also
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: do just kind of our show.
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: We ongoingly continue to tell people what we like to watch,
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: what we have been watching. Just in general, what type
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: of stuff do you like to watch or have you
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: been watching lately?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Well, let's see.
• 38:35
  Speaker 10: I had to watch Dr.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Jekyll and Sister Hyde to get myself freshened up for
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Martine Beswick when I saw her.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: And actually, since I've been so busy, the only thing
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: that I've really watched is I discovered this show called
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: League of Gentlemen. It's a British show, and it's kind
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: of got this weird dark horror element and comedy, and
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: I'm really enjoying it. So hopefully I'll get to watch
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: the second and third season pretty soon, like, when I
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: get back.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I've heard pretty good things about that, yeah.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really good. It's... actually more disturbing than I
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: thought it was going to be.
• 39:11
  Speaker 13: I was like, wow.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: They get away with a lot on BBC.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: I guess just as far as you want people to
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: go check your workout online, or where would you send
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: them to go?
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Probably the best place to go would be, I have
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: a blog, and it's Do Whackadoodles. and it's dowhackadoodles.blogspot.com and
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: any information like whenever I get the website up and
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: I have an online store that I'm going to be
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: working on that will all be detailed like in the
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: sidebar when that all comes to pass.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: I'll definitely put a link to that in there because,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I've been trying to type it in. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: we'll throw that in the notes on this show. I
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: think that is it, unless you have anything else you
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: want to pass on to people.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know. I guess that's it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Thank you for talking with us today.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 40:29
  Speaker 17: So yeah, I won't bother playing the promo this week
• 40:39
  Speaker 17: because I'm going to be the promo.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Guess what I've got. Here, I'll show you. These are my...
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Fanciest hell earphone thingies.
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: Tweaked audio earbuds. So I finally, I'd had my other
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: ones and I was just like, they were just crappy
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: ones I bought at like a department store of some sort.
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: And I was just like, oh, whatever.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I've got these. I guess I'll let them go until then.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: And those things were falling apart.
• 41:03
  Speaker 9: Like, seriously, that last week, there was, like, wires hanging
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: out where the speaker was.
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: That sounds nice.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: And you can kind of get jolted from those. Don't
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: get jolted by your headphones. I'm just saying. It's just
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: a basic thing. It's not good.
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: And they're shiny, too.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: These, yeah.
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: I have to say, and I will, you know, normally
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't go on about something that I didn't have
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: something personally to say about it, but I've had them
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: this past week, and I've been impressed with them.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: They actually are.
• 41:31
  Speaker 9: They sound really good, and they've got a little more
• 41:34
  Speaker 9: weight to them, too. The ones I had before were, like,
• 41:37
  Speaker 9: little cheap plastic. Like, this actually feels like there's something there.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: It's like it's little sound cannons. It's, like, a little longer, too,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: and it actually, like, fits in, and it feels like
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: they're actually doing something.
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: And they're shiny.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: They don't have to be shiny. They come in seven colors,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: if I remember correctly.
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: But they're shiny.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: These are silver. They match the MP3 player.
• 42:00
  Speaker 9: But, yeah, otherwise, I just, yeah, I wanted to throw
• 42:04
  Speaker 9: my two cents in with a personal version of it,
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: aside from just playing the ad week in and week out. Yeah,
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: I got my Tweaked Audio earbuds this week, and they
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: are actually pretty damn impressive. So go to tweakedaudio.com, put
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: in your fancy code MELTDOWN, and you'll get 33% off
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: and free shipping.
• 42:22
  Speaker 13: Hell yeah.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: What more do you want?
• 42:23
  Speaker 10: You can't beat that with a goddamn stick.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 42:26
  Speaker 10: Hell yeah.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: So go get some, tweakedaudio.com. My personal plug is now commenced. Okay,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: anything else?
• 42:37
  Speaker 10: Ear plug plug?
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Ear plug plug. I get it.
• 42:41
  Speaker 10: I'm pretty proud of that one. Right off the top
• 42:44
  Speaker 10: of my head, you can't make this shit up like that.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd be as proud of that
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: as you are. Anything else before we head back in?
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: That should be their new logo. Ear plug plugs.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I think they're buds more than plugs. Plugs means nothing
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: gets in.
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: Nothing gets out either.
• 43:02
  Speaker 13: Every moment, every single day.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: So if you're wondering what I do, the.
• 43:31
  Speaker 13: Things I do.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: We're here with Carole Monroe.
• 43:33
  Speaker 8: You were born in England. Would it be far-fetched to
• 43:37
  Speaker 8: say you weren't planning on going into performing early on?
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: It's not something you set out to do?
• 43:43
  Speaker 16: I actually didn't set out to become an actor or actress. No,
• 43:48
  Speaker 16: it couldn't have been further from my thoughts. I thought
• 43:52
  Speaker 16: if I was going to do anything when I left school,
• 43:54
  Speaker 16: it would be to do with art. So I suppose
• 43:58
  Speaker 16: it's another form of art, really.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: What type did you do, like painting?
• 44:03
  Speaker 16: Love painting, painting, anything to do with making stuff, you know,
• 44:09
  Speaker 16: with my hands. So very hands-on, and I'm very pleased
• 44:12
  Speaker 16: to say that my daughters have that.
• 44:15
  Speaker 13: They are so talented, actually. I don't think I was
• 44:17
  Speaker 13: actually very good.
• 44:18
  Speaker 16: I enjoyed it, but I was enthusiastic, but I don't know,
• 44:24
  Speaker 16: you know, how clever I was at it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Do you still try on occasion?
• 44:28
  Speaker 13: No. I don't. I don't know whether.
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: As far as once you got into acting, what I
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: know fell into it through the modeling.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: So I guess the first big role would be like
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: the Dr.
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: Five films.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Not much of a speaking part.
• 44:44
  Speaker 13: One of my most difficult parts.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: How did you get involved in those? For Dr.
• 44:50
  Speaker 13: Fives, I think I got through the producers seeing.
• 44:57
  Speaker 16: I was under contract for Hammer for a year, and
• 45:00
  Speaker 16: I think they'd seen some of my work in the
• 45:02
  Speaker 16: Hammer films, so they thought I might be a suitable
• 45:05
  Speaker 16: candidate to play Vincent's wife.
• 45:08
  Speaker 13: And Hammer didn't particularly... I mean.
• 45:11
  Speaker 16: They weren't mad on me doing that because I was
• 45:13
  Speaker 16: doing Hammer films, but they let me go uncredited.
• 45:16
  Speaker 13: I didn't have a credit in the films. Then again,
• 45:19
  Speaker 13: I didn't have a very big part, did I?
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: It was kind of instrumental.
• 45:23
  Speaker 16: Kind of, yes, because it all kind of went around her,
• 45:26
  Speaker 16: didn't it?
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: It did, certainly, yeah.
• 45:27
  Speaker 13: He had such a passion for his wife.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: He set it all in motion.
• 45:30
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I suppose it did, really, yes.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: As far as like Dracula, 1872. Yeah.
• 45:36
  Speaker 13: Oh, I loved working on that.
• 45:38
  Speaker 16: It gave me, it was a small role. But it
• 45:42
  Speaker 16: gave me a chance to work with Christopher.
• 45:44
  Speaker 13: Lee and Peter Cushing, so that was a must.
• 45:49
  Speaker 16: I feel I've been very fortunate that I've worked with
• 45:52
  Speaker 16: some wonderful, amazing, iconic men in the horror genre. So
• 46:00
  Speaker 16: I've been very lucky. I don't know how it happened,
• 46:02
  Speaker 16: but I'm not complaining. No, amazing to work on that film.
• 46:07
  Speaker 13: It's funny because... During the making.
• 46:10
  Speaker 16: Of Dracula, I suddenly realized, I'd been working for a
• 46:16
  Speaker 16: few years in film, but I suddenly realized that that
• 46:20
  Speaker 16: was the moment that I actually wanted to learn more,
• 46:25
  Speaker 16: study more, and really try and learn about my craft.
• 46:29
  Speaker 16: So that was my turning point, I suppose, with Dracula A.D.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: And then what was it like working with? Peter Cushing
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: and Christopher Lee.
• 46:38
  Speaker 11: Oh, wow.
• 46:39
  Speaker 16: Working with those two. It was quite, I suppose I
• 46:43
  Speaker 16: was very nervous. I mean, I was young, but also
• 46:46
  Speaker 16: very nervous. And I felt totally inexperienced because I hadn't
• 46:50
  Speaker 16: been to drama school per se and I hadn't, you know,
• 46:54
  Speaker 16: trod the boards that much. But what I'd done is
• 46:58
  Speaker 16: I'd started out as an extra in.
• 47:01
  Speaker 13: Casino Royale way back.
• 47:03
  Speaker 16: So I'd kind of done a lot of my learning,
• 47:06
  Speaker 16: been sitting on the side of the set watching these
• 47:09
  Speaker 16: wonderful people work. So I was delighted, basically, and to
• 47:14
  Speaker 16: be working with those two.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:16
  Speaker 16: I actually was very lucky because I got to work
• 47:18
  Speaker 16: with Peter again in Appiah School.
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: I was going to ask you about that. Were there
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: any stories or anything from Appiah School? It seemed like
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: a lot of action and activity going on.
• 47:28
  Speaker 13: There was a lot of action. You're right.
• 47:29
  Speaker 16: The amazing thing was it all took part in Pinewood Studios.
• 47:36
  Speaker 13: No locations.
• 47:37
  Speaker 16: They didn't build this wonderful set in Pinewood. So we
• 47:44
  Speaker 16: didn't leave the studio for about five weeks. We didn't
• 47:46
  Speaker 16: see the light of day. We were meant to be
• 47:49
  Speaker 16: under the earth anyway, so at the earth's core.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I guess that would be pretty.
• 47:54
  Speaker 13: Yeah, a good title for that.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: How about Captain Kronos?
• 47:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Would that be last in the Hammer series?
• 48:03
  Speaker 13: I think they did several more after that.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: With you.
• 48:05
  Speaker 13: Oh, with me it was. And with me it was
• 48:07
  Speaker 13: one of my absolute favorites. I love that film.
• 48:11
  Speaker 16: I just think Brian Clemens did such a wonderful job
• 48:15
  Speaker 16: in the writing and also the directing.
• 48:17
  Speaker 13: I don't know why he didn't go on.
• 48:19
  Speaker 16: And do more stuff, but he did a brilliant job.
• 48:23
  Speaker 16: And I do think that film, I saw it actually
• 48:28
  Speaker 16: last year in a place called Whitby.
• 48:31
  Speaker 13: In England they had a.
• 48:32
  Speaker 16: Film festival there sort of a horror film festival and
• 48:36
  Speaker 16: Cronus was one of the films they showed I just
• 48:39
  Speaker 16: think it's a brilliant piece of film very underestimated at
• 48:43
  Speaker 16: the time and it's it's kind of not dated there's
• 48:48
  Speaker 16: nothing really to date it you know it just it
• 48:51
  Speaker 16: just has a life of its own and I really
• 48:55
  Speaker 16: I was honoured to be a part of that film
• 48:58
  Speaker 16: yeah I was.
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: Going to say you'd Before that, I guess you'd done
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: a lot of, like, the classic, you know, Hammer Horror
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: and the old stuff, and then you found a lot
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: of fantasy and stuff. And then, like, in the 80s,
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: you sort of switched into the new style of horror.
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: So what, I guess, how did that come about, you know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: falling into, like, more of the slasher genre?
• 49:16
  Speaker 16: Well, you i suppose if i think back it came
• 49:19
  Speaker 16: about via joe spinel that was the connecting thing we
• 49:23
  Speaker 16: we did a film together in in um well we
• 49:27
  Speaker 16: did star crash yeah um he was the baddie in
• 49:30
  Speaker 16: that the evil count zarfan and then we went on
• 49:34
  Speaker 16: to do another.
• 49:35
  Speaker 13: Film Or was that after?
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I think Maniac was next.
• 49:38
  Speaker 16: I think Maniac was next and then the last horror film.
• 49:42
  Speaker 16: It really came about by me being in New York
• 49:46
  Speaker 16: and Joe's leading actress not turning up.
• 49:49
  Speaker 13: She was busy.
• 49:50
  Speaker 16: Daria Nicolodi was busy shooting another film and they needed
• 49:54
  Speaker 16: somebody really quickly and I just happened to be there
• 49:58
  Speaker 16: attending a show and Joe said.
• 50:01
  Speaker 13: He said, what do you think about doing a film?
• 50:04
  Speaker 13: I said, well, when? He said, well, tomorrow. I said, what?
• 50:10
  Speaker 13: He said, well, we start tomorrow. Would you like to?
• 50:12
  Speaker 16: I said, sure. That's a big thing. He said, read
• 50:15
  Speaker 16: the script tonight. Let me know five o'clock in the morning.
• 50:19
  Speaker 16: So I read the script, literally slept on the script.
• 50:23
  Speaker 13: And I thought, well, I adore Joe.
• 50:25
  Speaker 16: And I'd met Bill. I liked Bill very much. He'd
• 50:28
  Speaker 16: taken me to see Halloween. which was quite an eye-opener,
• 50:32
  Speaker 16: quite kind of groundbreaking. And he said, this is the
• 50:35
  Speaker 16: kind of film I want to make. So I thought, well,
• 50:39
  Speaker 16: nothing ventured, nothing gained, so why not? So all in all,
• 50:43
  Speaker 16: I said yes.
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: So how did you adjust to that new style as
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: far as being in the middle.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Of it all?
• 50:49
  Speaker 16: It took quite a big adjustment, I think, really, because
• 50:52
  Speaker 16: it was so different from the gothic horror. You'd be suddenly...
• 50:57
  Speaker 16: It was kind of quite in-your-face horror. So it was
• 51:02
  Speaker 16: a different sort of way. It was a different era, really.
• 51:05
  Speaker 16: And it was a much younger audience. You know, Bill
• 51:08
  Speaker 16: was young. People were young and enthusiastic. And it was
• 51:15
  Speaker 16: work for me. And it was interesting work. So I thought, well,
• 51:18
  Speaker 16: why not? You know, the work is there. And it's
• 51:21
  Speaker 16: something I'm still acting and doing my passion.
• 51:24
  Speaker 13: So I might as well go with that. And then.
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: Again you said you worked with the last horror film
• 51:32
  Speaker 8: you got to work with Joe Spinelli I did I
• 51:35
  Speaker 8: guess you worked well together it was like three I.
• 51:38
  Speaker 16: Think we got on well we did the three and
• 51:40
  Speaker 16: we were going to plan to do more but sadly
• 51:43
  Speaker 16: he passed away too young but no he was brilliant
• 51:49
  Speaker 16: to work with I must say fabulous actor.
• 51:52
  Speaker 13: An amazing actor.
• 51:55
  Speaker 16: Just, I think it was De Niro who said he's
• 51:57
  Speaker 16: one of the best character actors of that time, you know,
• 52:04
  Speaker 16: on screen.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Underrated, yeah.
• 52:06
  Speaker 13: Totally, totally.
• 52:07
  Speaker 8: And the one to ask about was then when you
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: got to work with Luigi again.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: In Black Cat.
• 52:12
  Speaker 13: That was wonderful. I mean, that was kind of came
• 52:14
  Speaker 13: out of the blue again.
• 52:15
  Speaker 16: He contacted me and he said, how about, you know,
• 52:19
  Speaker 16: working together?
• 52:20
  Speaker 13: And because we've had such a good and.
• 52:22
  Speaker 16: Long working relationship on star price i thought yes you
• 52:27
  Speaker 16: know it'd be another foray into a european film which
• 52:31
  Speaker 16: i love i was getting older uh um and also
• 52:36
  Speaker 16: i i find that european filmmakers kind of respect that
• 52:40
  Speaker 16: maybe more than english you know more than once you're
• 52:46
  Speaker 16: past 30 they don't this is this is then they
• 52:50
  Speaker 16: don't um You know, you're not put out to grass.
• 52:53
  Speaker 13: They'll kind of give you another chance.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: It's very different than American film.
• 52:56
  Speaker 13: It's different. I was trying to pad around it, and
• 52:59
  Speaker 13: I thought, what?
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: No, I'll call them. You know what I mean?
• 53:00
  Speaker 13: Unless you've had all your face lifted and tucked. Which
• 53:03
  Speaker 13: is scary. I can't do that.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I don't like that anyway.
• 53:05
  Speaker 16: No, I'm not mad. I mean, each to their own,
• 53:09
  Speaker 16: of course. But it's a different route. And I love
• 53:13
  Speaker 16: European film. I always have done. I always love the
• 53:16
  Speaker 16: French cinema. Yeah. In the 60s, I thought they were
• 53:19
  Speaker 16: so clever and ahead of their time.
• 53:22
  Speaker 13: And again, it's.
• 53:23
  Speaker 16: The passion they put into the work. So European film
• 53:27
  Speaker 16: cinema it was for me. In fact, I'm going back
• 53:33
  Speaker 16: to do a Spanish film in November, this November.
• 53:37
  Speaker 13: So I'm very excited. A Spanish Western. That should be great.
• 53:41
  Speaker 16: I kind of started doing Westerns with in Talent for
• 53:45
  Speaker 16: Loving with.
• 53:46
  Speaker 13: Richard Widmark and Topol.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:48
  Speaker 13: That's a long time ago. There it is. 68.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that was about it.
• 53:55
  Speaker 8: I guess I was going to ask what you were
• 53:56
  Speaker 8: working on, but you got that. Is there anything else
• 53:57
  Speaker 8: you want to tell people about?
• 54:00
  Speaker 16: Just, do we say we're here in Louisville and we're
• 54:04
  Speaker 16: at the Wonderfest, which is an amazing show, so if
• 54:08
  Speaker 16: you get a chance, come and see it.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Definitely.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: It's been awesome.
• 54:10
  Speaker 16: Also, I'm still around and And I still have the
• 54:14
  Speaker 16: acting bug or the passion.
• 54:17
  Speaker 13: Can people come.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: And find you at your website?
• 54:20
  Speaker 13: Yes, you can.
• 54:21
  Speaker 10: You can.
• 54:22
  Speaker 13: I don't know.
• 54:23
  Speaker 11: Tell me.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I think I had it at carolynmonroe.org. That's it.
• 54:27
  Speaker 13: That's the website, is it?
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Tell them to find that.
• 54:31
  Speaker 13: Thank you very much.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Thanks for talking with us today.
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  Speaker 8: Why We're here with Loren Peterson. How do you bill yourself,
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: I guess, at this point? I mean, you're certainly well-experienced
• 56:23
  Speaker 8: in the effects world, but I guess what's the title
• 56:25
  Speaker 8: you go by as far as a job description?
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: I was a model shop supervisor.
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: Supervisor.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: And probably before that, I was a chief model maker.
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: I guess I usually try to go back and see
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: what the beginnings are for most people in the industry.
• 56:38
  Speaker 8: As a kid, were you a big movie fan or.
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: You know, I wasn't an extreme movie fan or anything
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: like that. I know many of the people I work
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: with saw all those kind of films. Creature from Black Lagoon,
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: King Kong kind of things. And I saw them, but
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: probably as a kid I was more interested in westerns.
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: But I saw Space Patrol and Rocket Man and things
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: like that. Saturday serials, you know. But cowboy movies had
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: a big influence on me. I had my gun set
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: and my like Winchester and BB gun and all that.
• 57:14
  Speaker 10: Kind of thing.
• 57:16
  Speaker 8: At what point, I guess, did, uh, did modeling or
• 57:18
  Speaker 8: how did that take, take hold of you?
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: I guess, was that young or, uh, again, I, I was, uh,
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: I had certainly had model ships when there were pirate movies.
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: I had, uh, you know, car modified cars and, um,
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. But, um, It wasn't extreme. I
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: got into art and art and painting and drawing and
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: that kind of stuff and sculpting, and I did that
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: in high school. But the model-making thing really came later on.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: I was in college and certainly had all the different skills,
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: physical skills, and I was certainly probably a better three-dimensional
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: artist than I was a two-dimensional artist. And I graduated
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: from school and was gone for a little bit. And
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: one of my professors was looking for me. I had
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: him for one class in industrial design, and some friend
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: said that Dave Tompkins has been looking for you, and
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: he wants to hire you to start in a business.
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: And I was like, wow, I wonder what that is,
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: because I needed a job. And so I got in
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: touch with him, and he said he was starting an
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: industrial design business, and he wanted me to work for him.
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: And I said, well, I don't. didn't study industrial design
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: he said i don't care you know you had one
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: class and and um let's uh let's start a business
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: and so that's what we did we did yeah we
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: did uh sanyo uh stereos we did uh yamaha uh
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: snowmobiles we did uh rockwell calculator we did uh all
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: kinds of stuff.
• 58:55
  Speaker 8: Like that just basic design for all.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah Yeah, and product development and that kind of thing.
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: I worked on a.
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: The Japanese sent a Japanese toilet one year, and we
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: had a contract to do six months of... development work
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: on it to try and make it flush more efficiently
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: with old bananas. We'd buy bananas and let them get
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: really ripe and then test it again and modify it
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: and test it again and all that stuff. So it
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: was that kind of project, so.
• 59:26
  Speaker 8: And then when did film cross into that business, I guess?
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: Well, I was doing sculpting. I was a good sculptor,
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: a reasonable sculptor, and I was doing McDonald's parks, the
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: Hamburglars and things like that with the swings under his
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: arm and doing the original patterns for those. And I
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: came across somebody I went to college with, and he
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: had said, you know, we're working on a science fiction
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: film out in the valley. and having a hard time
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: finding model makers, do you think that you want to
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: do something like that? And I was like, well, maybe.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: I'll go out and see what it's like.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: Little did you know. Little did I know.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: Because I think we were hired just for two months
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: to start out and to solve a particular problem. It
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: was a problem with the Death Star, and I knew
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: I had industrial design experience, and so we were able
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: to apply that to the Death Star.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 8: So I guess it was already... The production was well underway.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 8: Had they already had a design team working on all that?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: No, I'm not sure if it was well underway. I
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: think they started in June, and I started, I think,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: in August. So they'd already started the Princess's ship, which
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: was supposed to be originally Han Solo's ship, but they
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: changed that later. There was only, like, maybe 30 people
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: there when I arrived, 25, 30 people or something like that.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: So it was close enough to the beginning, but... The
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: design work is an ongoing kind of thing. Joe Johnson
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: was the art director, and Ralph McQuarrie was a designer also,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: and George. But certain things were designed, but other things
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: weren't yet.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 8: At what point, I guess, did you kind of take
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 8: a hand in designing things, or did you just kind
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 8: of come in and build at that point?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: Well, designing. When you transfer things from two-dimension to three-dimension,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: there is design work involved in that. And we took
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: sketches and then did our own drawings of right and
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: left and all that kind of stuff. But really the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: design was done really in his head by George and
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: then by Joe Johnston, the art director after that, and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: then to the model shop. But certainly we had a
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: hand in the way that things finally came out and looked.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: But sometimes you'd get a real complete sketch or five
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: or six sketches. Other times you'd get a small little drawing.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: head this direction kind of thing.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: You could fill in the blanks.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, fill in the blanks.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 8: Is there anything kind of big that you want to
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  Speaker 8: lay claim to that you had a big hand in creating?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah. I had a really big hand in creating
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: the Millennium Falcon.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And then also Slave I years later. And I say
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: Slave I because the model shop got bigger and bigger
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: at that time. And I was not having my hands
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: on as much. I was hitting the tops of the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: waves without getting to spend a lot of time on
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: any particular ship. So when Slave I came along, I
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: was really enamored of the shapes of it, the design
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: of it and all that stuff. And so I kind
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: of set aside some time to make sure that I
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: actually participated as much as I could on the thing
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: while I was heading up the shop.
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  Speaker 8: That one's very unconventional. The Millennium Falcon looks great, but yeah,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 8: Slave I, just the design is so different.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, real different.
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  Speaker 8: As that went on, I guess, did you continue to
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 8: just head things up, or did you do a lot
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 8: more designing, like visual designing?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: Well, me personally, I like to keep my hand in it.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: I like to cut with an X-Acto knife and make
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: parts and glue parts and all that stuff. So even
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: as the shop got bigger and bigger, I still didn't
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: have a separate office or anything like that. I had
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: a desk just like everybody else. And, you know, I'd
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: have to split off and do budgeting and scheduling and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: that kind of thing.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: But it was more like hitting the tops of the waves,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: you know, doing some work here, dump some over there.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: So I always had my hand in all the various ships,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: but didn't get to work in as much depth as
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: I did in, let's say, the Millennium Falcon and the X-Wing,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: as I did later on when Slate I and things
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: came along.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 8: You've worked pretty much steadily since then on a lot
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 8: of different projects. How would you say, I mean, I
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 8: guess what is the biggest way that the industry has
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 8: changed over the years?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: Well, CG came along. Computer graphics came along. And they
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: did an incredible job of doing composites. It can be
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: almost spotless compared to when you did blue screen. And
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: there were certainly more model makers on Sith than there were.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: There were only seven on the first Star Wars. There
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: was almost 100 by the time we came to Sith.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: So there was a lot more work during the Star
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: Wars series near the end. but we were a smaller
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: percentage of the whole. On the first show, we were
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: around 10% of the whole. And by the time we
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: reached Sith, we were more like 7% or something like
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: that of the whole. But we were of a bigger group.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: There were 1,600 employees by the time we did Sith.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: There was only about a total of 70 by the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: time we did the first Star Wars. So that changed.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: And right now, there isn't as much model work done
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: as there even was at the end of star wars
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: because it was that kind of movie so yeah and
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: then it's moving you know more of it's done in
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: new zealand now and it's done in england and places
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: that they give uh tax rebates on labor and you
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: know everybody's competing for that kind.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 8: Of thing that's such a big part of it now.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah it is a really big part of it and
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: you you wonder well are they gonna do work in
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: antarctica with uh penguins, they don't have to pay two
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: cents an hour.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 8: If they give them enough tax break.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: They'll figure out how to feed penguins fish in exchange
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: for CG work.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 8: If somebody will do it, yeah, they'll find a PA
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 8: in charge of penguins alone. You mentioned CG. Is that something,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 8: I mean, there is a good way to work it
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 8: in there, but are you not a fan of it?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 8: At least on the low end scale of a bad
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 8: CG work? Well, it's a blessing and a curse.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah. They do certainly incredible things. A model shop could
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: do incredible things too. Um, I'm not really in the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: thick of it really anymore because I have retired two
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: years ago, but she does amazing things, you know, and
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: just the world changes.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 8: Were you glad to see it, you know, as it
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: came in while you were still working on all those projects?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 8: Was it handy to have there?
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure. It was, uh, I, um, you know,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: not being a, uh, dyed in the wolves, computer graph,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: computer person, you know, I use the computer and email
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: But, uh, they came along and I remember a guy
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: giving a demonstration of how he could do the shadows
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: over the planets, you know, and I thought, Oh, that's
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: pretty neat. You know, the animation had to do it
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: before and he had a program that could do it. And,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: you know, it grew and grew and grew. And, um,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: You know, in some ways it was like a hand-in-glove
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: relationship for a long time. And one of the women
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: at work said, well, sometimes it's more like a fist-in-a-glove relationship,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: a clenched fist, which was true. But all the way
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: through from the very beginning it had a very competitive feel.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: You know, this department will do that, no, this part.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: And we had different ideas about how each thing would
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: be done in some cases and some kind of. Sometimes
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: the decision would be made to go one way or
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: another way. You'd make your best proposal and plan on
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: what the budget would be, and sometimes you'd win at
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: that and sometimes you wouldn't. I guess there's some things
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: about CG when you just use it and use it
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: and use it. You can do everything and make everything synthetic.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: And when everything is synthetic, then what do you kind
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: of grab onto for reality? Yeah, a little bit there.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: And the model shop stuff, especially when it was in
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: conjunction with CG and the CG composites, you know, it
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: had a real you're-in-the-world look to it. And sometimes when
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: it's all synthetic, it has a bit of a computer
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: game feel to it. Definitely.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: So that changes. I think sometimes kids aren't as critical
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: of that kind of thing because they do computer games
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: a lot. Yeah.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 8: They don't know better without watching more of the old stuff.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 8: You're tied heavily to Star Wars, but you've done a
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 8: lot of other projects. Is there one that's kind of
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 8: another one of your favorites or something that you're particularly
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 8: proud of outside of the Star Wars universe?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm certainly proud of the Indiana Jones group.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 8: Definitely, yeah.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: But we did wonderful work for all kinds of films.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: Mars Attacks was great. Not a movie that people watch
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: very often these days, but it had great stuff in it.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 8: It's underappreciated.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: And Mission Impossible had great work in it that we did.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: Crash of that big tower. Men in Black. There were
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: just a lot of good, hard projects that had problems
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: that had to be solved. I had a great time.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: I felt that I really loved it.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 8: Out.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: I just said upstairs that I kind of got to
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: be living in Florence during the Renaissance.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, kind of.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: It was a great feeling.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 8: Its own, yeah, science fiction renaissance. That was the bulk
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 8: of it. You said you officially retired. Is there any
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 8: other projects or anything you kind of want to work on,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 8: or are you done with it?
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Well, I worked last year. I worked for about six
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: months on a NASA project doing models of ships that
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: were used for NASA. And it went off to Copenhagen, Stockholm.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: And I guess another phase of that is going to
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: be we're going to do the same thing but for Taiwan.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: And so it's not literally for film, but it's the
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: same people that I've worked with for years and years,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: and we're doing this one project. I have lots of things.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: I'm remodeling the house and redoing the kitchen and did
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: a bathroom and that kind of stuff.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: That's enough work right there, really.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I like doing that. Very satisfying to do
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: that stuff to the house that I never got to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: in the previous 25, 30 years.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 8: You just didn't know if there was anything you wanted
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 8: to promote or anything? No.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: I wrote a book called Sculpting the Galaxy. There you go.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: And it basically is kind of the history of the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: model shop during the Star Wars series. And it was
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: very satisfying to do that. I'm not a born and
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: bred writer, but with time and stuff like that. came
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: up with a book and it is reasonably popular you
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: know people buy it and there's a big collector's edition
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: version of it that weighs about 19 pounds yeah it
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: has models and dvds in it.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: And i guess all that yeah it comes with actual
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 8: all that actual stuff pieces of the death star yeah
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 8: pieces of.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: The death star and a little uh c-3po and r2d2
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: and a little man speeder and stuff.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 8: Like that it's a it's a really well put together
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 8: project yeah it turned out.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: One of the It won like an award, an honorable
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: mention at the New York Book Fair that year or
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: something like that as a presentation book.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: It was Sculpting a Galaxy?
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Sculpting a Galaxy. The big book.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 8: Go check that one out. Otherwise, yeah, that's about it.
• 1:11:14
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• 1:11:15
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• 1:11:17
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• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Alright, so we are back in the parking lot at Wonderfest.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: We're in my car now. Doesn't smell funny like Brian's.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: I don't buy that.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 10: Your truck smells funny.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: Whatever.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: He's got an odor, dude.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 12: Anyway.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: So, um, what were your highlights of Wonderpants?
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: Uh, Carolyn Monroe liked my hair.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: She was pretty awesome. She was very nice, as was Tammy.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Tammy was her helper, and I'm pretty sure it's her daughter.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 10: Oh, she's awesome.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, she was actually really nice, so I want to
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 8: thank Tammy as much as Caroline, because she sort of
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 8: helped make it all happen, so.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: I like her righteous indignation when that person snaked us.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was another podcast trying to move in on
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: our territory.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 10: They didn't try to.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: They just forced their way in.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: And he, like, butted all up in and started talking
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 8: to her. And then, yeah, Tammy came back and.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Was like, what? What the? I can't leave for a second.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: And I agree.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: I like how she made them cut their interview short, though.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: It's because we're cooler. And we were there first. And
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: we followed the rules. Or as much as we ever
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: followed the rules. But... We were trying to be respectful
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: of the actors.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: That guy was a douchebag. I don't know what podcasts
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: they do, but it sounds lame. It's a podcast devoted
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: to one guy's movies. That's it. One Italian guy's movies.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: lame-ass bullshit.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was kind of like, wow, I didn't even
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: want to pick a genre. I didn't want to get
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 8: painted into that corner, let alone one person's movies.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: I can understand a genre. I prefer one genre over most.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: We stick to that one more than most, but still.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: To one director?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: One director is what he said.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: An Italian director, which I've never heard of, which really
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean shit because I don't hear most people, but still,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: fuck that.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 7: Asshole.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 8: No offense to the rest of the Italian directors, but
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 8: that podcast, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 8: their plan was, but they were all up in our business.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: He seemed like a douchebag. He looked like a douchebag.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: He sounded like a douchebag. He walked like a douchebag.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 10: Not quite as douchebaggy as that guy that we saw
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 10: who looked like an 80s jackass boyfriend.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Dude, seriously. He had the hair. It was regottenambiculous.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: But do you think it was a costume?
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't tell if it was like
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: He didn't have a beard, so I don't think he
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: was a hipster, but he did have tight pants. Hmm.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: And a V-neck shirt, which I hate V-neck shirts.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Is there, like, a new mode of geek hipster?
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Like, you're so hip, you want to be a geek?
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Is that possible?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Ugh, he was sleazy looking. I was
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: going to try to get a stalker picture, but then
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: I think he realized it and he walked away.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't want to feed the ego of
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: somebody like that.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: His head was already big enough. Holy shit. Like helium
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: balloons lived in his hair.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: You want to talk about your water?
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Two fucking dollars for 12 fluid ounces of water.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Not even a full-size water. It's one of the stubby bottles.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: 12 fluid ounces. This is fucking retarded. Two fucking dollars.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: I paid a dollar for... for two cookies, but $ 2
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: for a tiny-ass bottle of water? A fucking plant bottle,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: up to 30% plant-based. It should be fucking cheaper if
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: it's got recyclable shit in it.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's water from plants.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Minerals added for taste. I don't want
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: fucking taste. It's water, for God's sake. It's water. I
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: don't want taste. If I want fucking taste, I'll go
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: get some fucking flavor water. Dasani sucks.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 10: Ha ha.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: But I hate Dasani. I've said it before, and I'll
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: say it again. I hate Dasani. I prefer Awkwafina.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: This episode not sponsored by Dasani.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Unless they want to give us money, and then you
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: know what?
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: Mmm.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Dasani.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, send that over. Send us some of that Coke money.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Was it Coke? I thought they were Pepsi.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 10: No.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, they're Coca-Cola.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: They're Coca-Cola.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm disappointed in you, Coca-Cola.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 9: So, Coca-Cola, if you'd like to send us a big check,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 9: we can change our vote. But without that, I don't
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 9: know if she's going to be swayed.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I filled it up with hotel water, too, so
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that didn't help.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 10: But you should get out of my work bitch oh
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 10: there goes some jedis holy shit.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah there are jedis in the bowling alley bowling alley
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 8: parking lot across the street i fucker.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 10: Said across the street little kid liked my hair too
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 10: that was pretty exciting um.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 8: I had somebody liked my shirt what are the odds
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 8: of that and wearing the dorky grito shirt too.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 10: Somebody liked my tattoo uh Corey got mistaken for Lucille Ball.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 10: I'm not sure how he feels about that. I don't
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 10: think it's good.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with that at all,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: by the way.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was blind.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: And old.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: He told you he can't see, so that doesn't help him.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 10: I was just glad he got rid of his creepy
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 10: peeper stalker beard. If that came out correctly. Creepy peeper
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 10: stalker beard. I can't even say it properly now. He
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  Speaker 10: got me all wonked up.
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  Speaker 1: On the water.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and you'll be surprised. You'll be shocked to hear
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  Speaker 2: that there was a Ghostbuster there.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah, he had fucking a Carl Magnum face, too.
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  Speaker 8: What's the odds that there would be a Ghostbuster at
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  Speaker 8: some sort of gathering of geeks?
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  Speaker 2: It's so unusual.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Did you see a Jack Sparrow? Did I already mention
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Jack Sparrow?
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  Speaker 8: No, but can I add that I still think he
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 8: looks like as if Jimmy Fallon were playing Jack Sparrow?
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  Speaker 1: Like 15 to 20 years ago, maybe. Maybe he was
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  Speaker 1: still young. Jimmy Fallon's gotten old. I don't like that.
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  Speaker 10: Jimmy Fallon can't get old.
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  Speaker 2: He still kind of acts like a child. That makes
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: it okay.
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  Speaker 8: I don't watch his show.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: I'm in bed by then. I'm old, too.
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  Speaker 2: It happens. It sucks.
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  Speaker 8: Anything else we'd like to pass along? We didn't really
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  Speaker 8: buy much.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't buy a damn thing but my overpriced water
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  Speaker 1: and my cookie.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of cool stuff.
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  Speaker 8: I just don't have any money at this point. I'd
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 8: like to, yeah, there's a ton of posters I want.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 8: I want to redo the whole thing and awesome posters. But, yeah,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 8: those all cost money.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: So, I looked at a few. There's some There's some
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  Speaker 2: awesome stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't near enough Beastmaster stuff, I'll tell you that right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's your problem most places you go.
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  Speaker 1: They had one poster, but it's the same one I
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: bought from them last time that I was there. It's multiplying.
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  Speaker 1: They only have one until I buy it. Then they
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: have another one.
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  Speaker 2: It's magic.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: The way that happens.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I need to add that one to my list of
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 8: stuff to get. Who doesn't need a Beastmaster poster?
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: Seriously. Mark Singer, I want you to sign my poster.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Bring it on, bitch.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: You heard it, Mark. Get on it.
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  Speaker 10: Fuckin' Aang.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Why does he not do more conventions? And Dragon Con, man.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 8: Oh, I think that about wraps up this episode here
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 8: from Wonderfest. So once again, if you haven't checked it out,
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  Speaker 8: lots of geek stuff, lots of model kits.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: We did see a lot of awesome models.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: It's fucking cold in there, too. I forgot to say that.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's fucking arctic in there. There needs to be a
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: nice balance.
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  Speaker 8: I've been to a lot of really hot and stuffy
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 8: and sweaty places.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, at conventions, and I'm glad that this was not
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: one of those.
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  Speaker 10: But still, they could have, like, maintained it a little
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  Speaker 10: bit better.
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  Speaker 1: It's, like, fucking snowing in there. It's fucking cold.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: You could have worn a jacket. you were just wanting
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: to show off the Enterprise I know what you were
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: up to I was.
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  Speaker 1: Throwing off the Enterprise and Corey didn't want to get
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: left out so I wore a capris and I wore
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: my tank top because I figured hey geek fest it's
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: gonna be fucking hot in there it's gonna be geek
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: sweat I'm gonna be prepared but fucking hell I'm freezing
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: my ass off there I like to be air conditioned
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: but this is just ridiculous you know I like my
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: AC but I'm like fuck this is like I don't
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: like that damn cold.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 8: I appreciate the welcome change of AC, as opposed to
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 8: the miasma, as we've referred to it in the past.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: The fog of eternal stench.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't want that at any convention, so yes.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: Still, balance.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 8: But yes, otherwise, lots of cool models, lots of geeky stuff,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 8: so check it out. I believe they are at wonderfest.com,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 8: so go plan ahead for next year. Otherwise, anything else
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 8: you need to pass along?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: $ 2 water is ridiculous.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: That's why I didn't buy one.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: That's thirsty.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: That about does it. We will return next week. Same
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 1: Bye.
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  Speaker 11: When no one else can understand me When everything I
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 11: do is wrong You give me hope and consolation. You
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 11: give me strength to carry on.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 14: And you're always there to lend a hand in everything
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 14: I do. That's the wonder, the wonder of you.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 11: And when you smile the world is brighter You touch
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 11: my hand and I'm a king Your kiss to me
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 11: is worth a fortune.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 15: Your love for me is everything I guess I'll never
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 15: know the reason why You love me as you do.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 14: That's the wonder, the wonder of you.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: Play the song, James.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 15: I guess I'll never know the reason why you love me.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 10: As you do.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 13: Oh, this is with Richard Peele. Yeah. I felt very short.
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• 1:22:23
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