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Episode Two Hundred Ninety Two: The Alliance Of Lunacy · The Death Of Journalism

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  Speaker 1: Welcomed to episode two hundred and ninety two, The Death
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  Speaker 1: of Journalism Podcast. My name is John Zigler. I'm your host.
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  Speaker 1: On today's show, The Supreme Court makes a big decision
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  Speaker 1: on racial jerrymandering. Social media goes knots over a JP
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  Speaker 1: Morgan's sexual harassment lawsuit in a very telling way. Tucker
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  Speaker 1: Carlson is back in the news is Ben Shapiro's Daily
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  Speaker 1: Wire In Big Economic Trouble, We do an interview with
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  Speaker 1: former New York and LA TV newscaster Glenn Walker, and
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  Speaker 1: Pablo Torre wins a politzerprise for a story that might
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  Speaker 1: still be mostly bs. Right after we taped last week's
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  Speaker 1: episode of the podcast, the United States Supreme Court came
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  Speaker 1: out with a rather large decision on the issue of
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  Speaker 1: racial jerrymandering via six to three vote along partisan lines.
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  Speaker 1: They decided that a Louisiana congressional map was unconstitutional because
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  Speaker 1: it had been drawn based upon racial considerations. Effectively, what
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  Speaker 1: this means is that it is now unconstitutional for a
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  Speaker 1: state to purposely draw a congressional district in order to
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  Speaker 1: carve out a so called black or minority district. This,
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  Speaker 1: to me, is one of the best decisions that the
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  Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court has made in a very long time.
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  Speaker 1: It is on very sound logical and philosophical grounds, proven
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  Speaker 1: by the fact that it's a six to three decision.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of the great elements of the
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  Speaker 1: Supreme Court coverage that drives me crazy is that John Roberts,
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  Speaker 1: who I have criticized many times before because he's turned
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  Speaker 1: into a mushy moderate over time, as the guy who
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  Speaker 1: effectively is the head technically of the Supreme Court, the
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  Speaker 1: chief Justice of the Supreme Court. When he makes a
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  Speaker 1: decision that is consistent with what the liberal media wants,
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  Speaker 1: he is considered to be the wise jurist, the guy
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  Speaker 1: who has the wisdom, the guy who's not partisan. But
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  Speaker 1: when he sides with the supposed conservative majority, all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, that gets forgotten. We know what, No, there's
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  Speaker 1: been no thought of John Roberts. What happened to John
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  Speaker 1: Roberts being the sage? What happened to John Roberts being
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  Speaker 1: the guy that we trust. It's a classic case of hypocrisy.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have it both ways. John Roberts can't both
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  Speaker 1: be the guy that proves when a case goes the
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  Speaker 1: way that the left launts it to that he's the
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  Speaker 1: guy we can trust. But then when he votes with
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  Speaker 1: the conservative majority, somehow that doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when Roberts votes with the other.
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  Speaker 1: Five justices in a way that was as clearcut as this,
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  Speaker 1: then obviously it's the right decision. And this is the
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  Speaker 1: decision that, in my opinion, should be tampion. This should
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  Speaker 1: be a great moment for America if we lived in
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  Speaker 1: a semi rational world that we are now living in
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  Speaker 1: a world in a country where we don't need to
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  Speaker 1: be discriminating based upon race when we draw our congressional districts.
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  Speaker 1: It has been a full two generations, two generations since
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  Speaker 1: the Voting Rights Act, and so the reality is that
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  Speaker 1: we have grown out of this. I can understand why,
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  Speaker 1: when this was first adopted, given the obvious racial discrimination
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  Speaker 1: in this country, that you had to create a situation
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  Speaker 1: where there could be some representation, at least theoretically for
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  Speaker 1: black people in Congress.
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  Speaker 2: I totally get that.
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  Speaker 1: But we are so far beyond that now, and to
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  Speaker 1: embed obvious and blatant racial discrimination into our system is
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  Speaker 1: the best way to prevent us from ever getting to
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  Speaker 1: a circumstance where we have eliminated racial discrimination.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so obvious.
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  Speaker 1: That it's amazing to me that people, especially on the left,
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  Speaker 1: especially in the media, especially in the Democratic Party, who
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  Speaker 1: are afraid that this is going to hurt their congressional
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  Speaker 1: representation over time, not only aren't celebrating this, they're condemning
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  Speaker 1: this as somehow going back to Jim Crow and this
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  Speaker 1: is a white, you know, racist conservative majority that's can
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  Speaker 1: you know, doing things to harm the cause of black people,
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  Speaker 1: which is just completely ridiculous. Let's be very clear about this.
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  Speaker 1: The way this was being enacted up until this decision
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  Speaker 1: was as racist as it gets. It's not just because
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  Speaker 1: districts are being drawn in order to be able to
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  Speaker 1: facilitate black representation. I have no problem with black, white, yellow,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is representation. Let the best person win, the
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  Speaker 1: person that the people in that district want to have
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  Speaker 1: representing them in Congress. But it it's inherently racist to
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  Speaker 1: have a situation where we're going to draw a district
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  Speaker 1: so that we have enough black people to where we
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  Speaker 1: anticipate we're going to get a black representative. There's so
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  Speaker 1: many layers of racism in that, not just what you
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  Speaker 1: want the end result to be. Because I'm a big
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  Speaker 1: believer in equality of opportunity and not equity of outcome.
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  Speaker 1: That's the number one divide I believe when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to race. Conservatives tend to believe at least real conservatives
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  Speaker 1: believe in equality of opportunity, make it even playing field
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  Speaker 1: and let the chips fall where they may. Equality of opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: But liberals want equity of outcome. They want to be
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  Speaker 1: able to dictate what the outcomes are because I guess
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  Speaker 1: they're afraid that minorities can't compete on their own. That
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  Speaker 1: seems to be the only logical conclusion of that. But
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  Speaker 1: it's not just the racist element of this. Was not
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  Speaker 1: just manufacturing a situation where we are assured of having
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  Speaker 1: a certain number of black representatives Congress.
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  Speaker 2: To me, the most insidious.
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  Speaker 1: Part of the whole thing is the presumption that people
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  Speaker 1: are gonna vote based solely, or at least primarily, on
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  Speaker 1: the color of their skin.
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  Speaker 2: That's the presumption of the whole thing that if we have.
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  Speaker 1: Enough people with enough pigmentation in their skin in a
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  Speaker 1: particular district, we're gonna get somebody with a similar pigmentation
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  Speaker 1: who will represent that district in Congress. That's about as
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  Speaker 1: racist as it gets.
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  Speaker 2: That's to me.
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  Speaker 1: I've always been saddened by that, that presumption. It is
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  Speaker 1: such a racist presumption. Now unfortunately it tends to be true,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not as true as it used to be.
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  Speaker 1: We're seeing some shifts in the depenographics on that front,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's in keeping with this decision by
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  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, which was one hundred percent the right decision.
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  Speaker 1: We should stop racial discrimination. Now I'm not naive, I
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  Speaker 1: am this thing from naiv I fully understand that inherently
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  Speaker 1: this is a partisan process, which, by the way, our
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  Speaker 1: founders always knew it was going to be a partisan process.
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  Speaker 1: I mean to the winner goes the spoils. If you
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  Speaker 1: control a state, you're going to control the lines in
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  Speaker 1: that state that determine your congressional delegation. That's politics, okay,
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  Speaker 1: And there's no question that, especially in the South, the
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  Speaker 1: reality of this situation is going to be I fully
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  Speaker 1: acknowledge a probable loss in Black representation in Congress because unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: we have a situation. I say unfortunately because in all
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  Speaker 1: areas of life, I think technology has taken over, and
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  Speaker 1: redistricting is one of these situations where in the older days,
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  Speaker 1: you know, before we had such remarkable computer technology, people
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  Speaker 1: had to do this by feel it was more of
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  Speaker 1: an art than a science. Now it's a full on science,
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  Speaker 1: and you have the demographics of every location in your state,
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  Speaker 1: and a computer in probably seconds could come up with
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  Speaker 1: a way to create as many districts that are likely
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  Speaker 1: to be determined in your favor, depending on your political party,
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  Speaker 1: as you want. And so now we have situations like
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  Speaker 1: in Virginia where they could take a state that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: fifty five forty five Democrat and turn it into effectively,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's over ninety percent estimated in this next
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  Speaker 1: election if it were to hold up, although a court
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  Speaker 1: has knocked it down at least temporarily in Virginia, that
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the Virginia delegation would be all democratic. California,
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  Speaker 1: we had a situation that Gavin Newsom put on the
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  Speaker 1: ballot and a very nefarious, insidious, and deceitful fashion that
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  Speaker 1: ended up passing even though the vast majority of Californians
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  Speaker 1: didn't even understand what they were voting for. I think
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  Speaker 1: they were voting for something that was the opposite of
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  Speaker 1: what they thought they were voting for, but they're able
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  Speaker 1: to figure out a way to somehow get rid of
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  Speaker 1: at least another four or five Republicans in the state
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  Speaker 1: of California, because it is so sophisticated now with the
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  Speaker 1: technology to be able to draw the lines, and we
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  Speaker 1: are so confident that people will vote based upon their demographics,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's racial demographics, age, gender, whatever it is. The
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  Speaker 1: ability to predict how people are going to vote is
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  Speaker 1: frighteningly accurate, which makes technology dominant in this whole situation. One,
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  Speaker 1: the South is where you have a large portion of
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  Speaker 1: minorities or black people, but you also have Republicans controlling
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  Speaker 1: the state legislatures. So that's going to be the area
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  Speaker 1: where black representation in Congress is going to go down,
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  Speaker 1: and that will inevitably, based upon the demographics, help the
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party, especially after the next census. As far as
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  Speaker 1: the practical effect of this, my guess is it's going
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  Speaker 1: to it takes some time before this really has a
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  Speaker 1: massive impact. I mean, by all accounts, in the next census,
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  Speaker 1: Democrats are going to get wiped out in several blue states.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to lose seats. Red states are going to
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  Speaker 1: pick up seats in both the electoral College and when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to representatives in Congress because those are tied together.
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  Speaker 1: And by twenty thirty two, once the new census is
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  Speaker 1: in and the new maps are redrawn under this rule
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  Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court, then I think you're going to
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  Speaker 1: see a situation where it's going to be very difficult
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  Speaker 1: for Democrats, especially if there's a Democratic president and they're
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  Speaker 1: defending rather than being on the offense like they're going
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  Speaker 1: to be in twenty twenty six. I think it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be very, very difficult for Democrats to be able
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  Speaker 1: to control the House of Representatives.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to have that mass of an impact on
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: It could have an impact.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Florida or Ron DeSantis, it seems to be
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  Speaker 1: the guy most willing and able to get shit done,
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  Speaker 1: has effectively readished in a way that seems to be
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  Speaker 1: very advantageous to Republicans.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know that that's.
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  Speaker 1: Going to offset what happened in Florida, what may orbe
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  Speaker 1: not be happening in Virginia. We know Texas tried to
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  Speaker 1: do the same thing. I frankly hate this whole deal
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  Speaker 1: to me, it's way too partisan, and we're getting close
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  Speaker 1: to a situation where if you control the state legislature,
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  Speaker 1: the Senate, and the House, or whatever they're calling it
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  Speaker 1: in your particular state, then you can almost wipe out
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  Speaker 1: all opposition in your congressional district because of the technology
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  Speaker 1: that now exists with computers, especially now that the Supreme
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  Speaker 1: Court has opened the way for there not to be
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  Speaker 1: or at least there be a band on racial gerimanding.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't really care with regard to the Supreme
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  Speaker 1: Court's decision whether it was right or wrong, what the political.
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  Speaker 2: Impact of that is.
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  Speaker 1: The decision, on its face, based upon its philosophy, was
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent accurate, one hundred percent correct. It was
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  Speaker 1: just it is exactly what America was founded upon, the
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  Speaker 1: idea that we are free, that we have equality of opportunity,
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  Speaker 1: not equity of outcome. But the left is still very
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  Speaker 1: upset about this, mostly because they know it's bad for Democrats.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the other elements of this decision is
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  Speaker 1: that it further exposed Kajanji Jackson, the black female jurist
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  Speaker 1: that was appointed by President Biden, as just being an
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  Speaker 1: absolute imbecile. And that is not an exaggeration. She is
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  Speaker 1: a dumb, dumb person who is being protected by the
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  Speaker 1: news media because they are inherently, very very hesitant to
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  Speaker 1: criticize a woman of color, especially a very liberal woman
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  Speaker 1: of color in a position of power. But the conservative
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  Speaker 1: Justices have had enough with Justice Jackson and her dissent
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  Speaker 1: in this created a situation which was almost unprecedent the
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  Speaker 1: modern times, where three of the conservative justices just came
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  Speaker 1: out and absolutely took hers to the woodshed.
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  Speaker 2: And how dumb and.
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  Speaker 1: Can vary concerning almost dangerously idiotic her descent in this
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  Speaker 1: particular case was, and short of course, she's being as
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  Speaker 1: partisan as could possibly be. She wants to try to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that we don't actually implement this decision in
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six midterm elections, which is another classic
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  Speaker 1: case of massive hypocrisy when it comes to news coverage
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  Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court. Not only does John Roberts go
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  Speaker 1: from hero to we've never heard of him before whenever
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  Speaker 1: he votes with the conservative majority, but the liberal justices,
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  Speaker 1: the three female liberal Justices, can be as obtuse and
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  Speaker 1: as partisan as they want to be, and they never
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  Speaker 1: get criticized for being partisan. But Jackson is as dumb
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  Speaker 1: and as partisan as you can possibly get. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the future which I think it would be, especially if
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  Speaker 1: we get a Gavin Newsom presidency with god forbid a
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  Speaker 1: majority in the US Senate, We're going to get more
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  Speaker 1: Kadanji Jackson's. And right now there's still six' three rationality
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  Speaker 1: over lunacy in THE Us Supreme. Court but you, know
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  Speaker 1: If thomas And alito pass away and there's not A
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  Speaker 1: republican president with A Republican, senate that can change, very
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  Speaker 1: very very. Quickly so you, know you though right now
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  Speaker 1: it feels like The Supreme court is on solid, footing
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  Speaker 1: you know that can change in all way too. Fast
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  Speaker 1: and so to, me The jackson president is very dangerous
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  Speaker 1: for where we're heading in this country because the fact
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  Speaker 1: that she was appointed and is sitting on The Supreme
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  Speaker 1: court is a very dark sign for where this could
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  Speaker 1: head in a very short amount of time if things
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  Speaker 1: change politically the way that, appears at least, momentarily the
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  Speaker 1: wins are, headed meaning a wipeout in the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: six midterms For democrats and maybe A Gavin newsom or
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  Speaker 1: some Other democrat winning the presidency in twenty twenty. Eight
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  Speaker 1: BUT i wanted to commend THE Us Supreme court for
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  Speaker 1: doing the right thing because it has always bothered me
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  Speaker 1: greatly that somehow we were still living in a world
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  Speaker 1: where obviously in so many walks of life we have
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  Speaker 1: eliminated overt systematic. Racism we are so far beyond needing
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  Speaker 1: there to be these charity case you, know black majority
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  Speaker 1: congressional districts that are drawn purely out of. Racism and, so,
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  Speaker 1: look is there is there a perfect solution to. This,
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  Speaker 1: no because inherently partisans are going to do things that
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  Speaker 1: do that are in their. Favor that's inherently going to
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  Speaker 1: happen at all, times And i'd rather have it be
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  Speaker 1: partisan than. Racial and, unfortunately because of the nature of the,
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  Speaker 1: demographics when it's, racial it becomes both racist and partisan
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  Speaker 1: because of the fact That democrats are always confident that
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  Speaker 1: black people are going to vote For. Democrats hopefully that's
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  Speaker 1: at least somewhat changing into the. Future but on the,
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  Speaker 1: law on the, philosophy on the concept of What america should,
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  Speaker 1: be This Supreme court decision was absolutely. Right it should
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  Speaker 1: have been nine to, Nothing but the fact that it
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  Speaker 1: was six to three With roberts voting in the, MAJORITY
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  Speaker 1: i think further substantiates that this was absolutely the correct
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  Speaker 1: thing to. Do and as far as the political impact of,
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  Speaker 1: this the state Of indiana held a primary just last
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  Speaker 1: night that was really quite astonishing and was very much
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  Speaker 1: related to the issue of, redistricting because you may recall
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  Speaker 1: that the state Of indiana tried to do or at
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  Speaker 1: least there were some people In indiana that wanted them
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  Speaker 1: to do something similar to What texas had done and
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  Speaker 1: redraw the lines Because indiana is a red state where
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  Speaker 1: you could effectively eliminate All democratic representation In. Congress and
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  Speaker 1: there were Several republicans who voted against, it and in
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  Speaker 1: last night's, primary it appears as if all but maybe
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  Speaker 1: one of them have lost their primaries To trump backed.
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  Speaker 1: Challengers now this is. Amazing for this many incumbents to
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  Speaker 1: lose over one issue shows you that the power Of Donald,
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  Speaker 1: trump at least within A republican primary in a red,
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  Speaker 1: state is still. EXTRAORDINARY i, MEAN i hadn't even Heard
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  Speaker 1: trump made a huge deal about, this but the word
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  Speaker 1: got out that The trump backed Challengers we're going after
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  Speaker 1: These republican, incumbents and The republican incumbents who did not
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  Speaker 1: vote in favor of redrawing the maps In indiana got whited.
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  Speaker 2: Out and to, me.
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  Speaker 1: This shows the, absurdity the absolute, insanity the. Lunacy the
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  Speaker 1: people still think that there's going to be a competitive
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  Speaker 1: primary for The republican nomination for president in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Eight we are not living in that, world. Folks If Donald,
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  Speaker 1: trump with a snap of a finger can get rid
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  Speaker 1: of six at Least republican incumbents In indiana without even
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  Speaker 1: all that much, effort then Whoever trump says is the
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  Speaker 1: nominee is going to be the. Nominee, now is there
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  Speaker 1: a theoretical possibility That trump stays out of it and
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  Speaker 1: says he wants a competitive, primary and you, know he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna sit there like you, know the like The emperor
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  Speaker 1: and The colisseum and put thumb up and thumb down
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  Speaker 1: because he wants to see a. WAR i guess that's,
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  Speaker 1: possible but that doesn't seem Like trump to be Because
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  Speaker 1: trump's gonna want to have an influence over, this and,
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  Speaker 1: eventually whether it starts off as a theoretically competitive, Primary
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  Speaker 1: trump's gonna end up deciding who the winner. Is Whoever
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  Speaker 1: trump decides to. Endorse that's. It that's who The republican
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  Speaker 1: nominee in twenty twenty eight is going to. Be, period
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  Speaker 1: end of. Sentence and the results In indiana are further
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  Speaker 1: proof of.
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  Speaker 2: That, NOW i mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: This redistricting issue has obviously pervaded much of the nation
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  Speaker 1: and very clearly here In, california And Gavin, NEWSOME i
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  Speaker 1: believe understandably so is expecting to get a lot of
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  Speaker 1: credit for what is very likely to be A democratic. Victory,
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  Speaker 1: now how much of a victory in twenty twenty, six
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  Speaker 1: we don't know. Yet it could be, small it could be.
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  Speaker 1: HUGE i think that's basically what we're debating. OVER i
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  Speaker 1: think it's pretty Clear democrats are going to take The.
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  Speaker 1: House it's it's just a matter of by how, much
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  Speaker 1: and if it's a big, landslide or even if it's
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  Speaker 1: not a big. Landslide Gavin newsom is going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to take a lot of credit for that because
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  Speaker 1: of what he did in WHAT i believe to be
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  Speaker 1: an absolute abomination that if we had a functioning media
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  Speaker 1: in this state and in this, country he would not
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  Speaker 1: have been able to get away. With but we don't
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  Speaker 1: what he did In california with that proposition to redraw the,
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  Speaker 1: maps even though we have in our state constitution a
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  Speaker 1: non partisan commission that's supposed to draw the. Maps but they, claimed,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: oh we're just going to do this one, time which
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: is always, bullshit the one time. Canard we're never going
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: to go back to, This and even if we do
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: go back to the old, system it's not going to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: matter because there's not going to be Any republicans to
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: run because they're all going to be out of. Office
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: there's hardly Any republicans of the state, legislature so The.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Democrat The democrat's going to have the advantage of incumbency,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: anyway so they're going to permanently remake the congressional, delegation
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: especially when in the twenty thirty census it looks Like
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: california's going to lose several. Seats so, anyway the reality
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: is That newsom has positioned himself very well to take
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: credit for this midterm win by The, democrats just as
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: he's getting ready to launch his twenty twenty eight presidential.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Campaign and he did an interview with HBO's Bill, maher
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: And Bill maher is a very interesting character to, me
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: SOMEONE i used to, loathe but he now seems to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: be one of the few people on the left who
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: still has a. Brain he kind of got it DURING.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Covid he's anti, woke he's willing to tell the truth at.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Times it just never occurred to me That Bill maher
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: would be the guy that would stand up among those
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: on the left as being someone who's. CREDIBLE i, mean
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the guy's a comedian who's number one goal has always
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: been to get laid and now here he's the voice
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: of reason on the, left which is a remarkable, development
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: AND i think telling about how sad the state of
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: our media. Is but mar interviewed newsob and it was
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: mostly a softball inner because he Likes, newsome he's obviously a.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Liberal but he did confront him on one issue THAT
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: i thought was very interesting and very, telling and that
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: is That Gavin newsom has this remarkably hypocritical view of
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: tactics where he Criticizes Donald trump's. Tactics AND i understand
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: there's some rationality to. THAT i do it myself very
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: often when it comes to the nature of the way
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: That trump, speaks the way he does. Politics you, know
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the coarseness of our national. Dialogue i've Criticized trump many
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: times for, this So newsom does the same, thing but
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Then newsom engages in exactly the same kind of. Activity in,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: FACT i believe it's part Of newsom's. Strategy it's a weird,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: strategy but it might actually work where you become the
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Anti trump by becoming The democrat who's willing to fight Like.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Trump and To Bill maher's, credit but he was willing
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: to Call newsome out to his face on this. Hypocrisy
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and here's what that sounded like ON.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Hbo he's not doing anything to try to unite this
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: country in any, way shape or.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Form and you, know for, me that's to, me.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: That's the biggest reflection of this moment is how just
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: the sewer that we're now living in because Of Donald. Trump,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: uh and he's allowed all of it to us to
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: feel free to shove. Again AND i, think if nothing,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: else forget but you.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Have but many people would say that you are imitating.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Him among all the people who may or may not be,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: running you're the one who kind of imitates his style
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: with the, trolling with your Suing. Fox, NOW i andersond
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: you're saying that's that's.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Right on in The Discovery fox better look to settle right,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: now apologize for.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Defamation but that sounds exactly like what he does suing.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Media that's.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Point, well then don't, defame don't, lie and you Know,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: fox that does sound like.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Him, now that was pretty good By Bill. MAHER i
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: don't know how much of a market, left But newsom
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: should be called out on that because it is. Hypocritical,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: now there are other parts of the interview that were quite,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: soft and there's no question in my mind That Gavin
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: newsom is a formidable force in the twenty twenty Eight
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: democratic presidential. PRIMARY i still have Our Gavin newsom fear
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: factor rating at six point oh out of. Ten part
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: of why it is only six point oh is THAT
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: i still think he's going to have some problems in
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: The democratic, primary especially If Kamala harris runs for. President
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of speculation in both directions about what
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: she's going to. Do this past, week there were two
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: things that happened that seemed to, indicate at least to
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: me that.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe she isn't.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Running the first is that she bought a multi million
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Dollar malibu estate here In, california which a lot of
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: people seem to think isn't consistent with someone who's about
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: to run for, president who. Knows part of the difficulty
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: in evaluating The tea leaves here is That Kamala harris
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: isn't very. SMART a smart person might be hesitant to
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: buy a multi million Dollar malibu estate where they're going
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: to go run for president trying to be a person
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: of the. People but you, Know harris isn't all that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Bright and in a similar, vein she decided to Endorse
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Karen bass for mayor here In Los angeles while claiming
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: that she had ended crime and the homelessness situation that
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: was the basis for her, endorsement which is just beyond
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: idiotic even For Kamala. Harris BUT i thought politically that
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: was a very strange thing for her to, do a
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: very dangerous thing for her to do if she is
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: really going to run for, President because there's a darn
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: good chance That karen is not gonna.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Win not Because Spencer, pratt the.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Former REALITY tv show that has been lighting up the,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: internet is somehow gonna win the mayor's race In Los.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Angeles Spencer pratt is not gonna. Win there's a lot
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: of people ON x that are super excited about. Him
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: he's got these fun commercials that are USING ai to
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: de Mock bass And harris And newsom and The democratic,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: elites and they're, entertaining AND i get. IT i enjoy
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: them as much as. Anybody But Spencer pratt is running for.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Clicks he's not running For Los angeles, votes because there
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: aren't Enough Los angeles votes for somebody Like Spencer pratt
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to be the mayor Of Los angeles if there. Was Rick,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: caruso what a run a second? Time Rick caruso was
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: basically a lab experiment to come up with the perfect
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: person who could possibly be rational and still win a
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: mayor's race In Los. Angeles rich moderate Former republican turned
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: into A, democrat extraordinary record Within Los, angeles a member
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: of the board AT, usc a lifelong, resident the whole,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: bit perfect on, television more than enough money to buy name.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Recognition and he lost last time significantly and decided he
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: couldn't run again because the math just wasn't there even
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: after the wildfire. Disaster AND i trust That rick, rousso you,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: KNOW i wish he would have. Run SO i don't
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: have as much affinity for him AS i used to
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: BUT i trusted the people around him understood the math
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and the reason. Why so that's Why pratt's not gonna.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Win pratt is running for attention and whatever this might
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: lead for his, career and he's duping a lot of
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: national conservatives into thinking that somehow the Average Los angeles
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: voter is ON x and seeing these, ads it is
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: all excited about A Spencer pratt candidacy for mayor when trust,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: me the percentage of The Los angeles voting base That
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Spencer pratt is reaching is, minuscule. Minuscule, now is he
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: doing better than anyone would have? Expected, sure and could
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: he be a factor in who ends up. Winning, Yeah
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: but the reality is That harris has made a VERY
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: i think dangerous decision because there's a female socialist's basically
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: being called the Zoron mondani Of Los angeles who appears
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: to be the favorite right now and could end up Overtaking.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Bass and if that ends up, happening Then harris is
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: going to look very, weak very out of, touch very.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Establishment she will have backed the wrong. Horse she'll be
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: out of step with the socialist base of her own,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: party and that's not something you want if you're going
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to try to make another run for the. Presidency AND
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: i know there are probably some people, thinking Will, zick.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Why do you even care About?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: HARRIS i, mean she's not going to possibly win after
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: what happened in twenty twenty, four AND i just think
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: that that's very naive about the world in which we.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Live name recognition is so incredibly. Important money is integral
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: to the, process And harris has name recognition and access
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: to money that basically no one else in that race
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: is going to, have Even newsom isn't going to have it. Nationally,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: plus she was the first female vice, president and ninety
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: five percent at least Of democratic primary voters will have
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: cast a ballot in their lifetime for her as president
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and probably for vice president. Too that. Matters that is
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: a huge, advantage especially in this day and, age especially
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: in a crowded race where there's no natural person to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: take her, out accept somebody from her own, state which
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Is Gavin. Newsom And i've always said she cock Blocks
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: newsom at least in, theory because he can't criticize.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Her she's a.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Woman of, color first female vice, president she's from his own,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: state and that's gonna Put newsom in a very difficult.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Position And i'm also of the belief that a huge
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: portion Of democratic primary voters are, never for their first
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: choice going to pick somebody From, california so that further
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: reduces the pool of potential. Voters and if you Have
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: newsom And harris splitting that it makes it very difficult
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: for either of them to break. Free BUT i really
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: concerned About. NEWSOME i, MEAN i would love For harris
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: to be The democratic presidential. Nominee part of my analysis
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: here is is That I'm i'm kind of being reserved
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: About harris's chances BECAUSE i know that's WHAT i, want
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and so you, know it's inherent within my way of
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: thinking that IF i want, SOMETHING i hold it to
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: a much higher standard of evidence and. Proof So i'm
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: not saying she's gonna. Win i'm saying she's a problem
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: For newsome for all the reasons That i've already. Stated
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: but buying The malibu a state and Endorsing karen bass
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: is either an indication that she may not run or
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: she's just even dumber THAN i and many other people
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: presume that she. Is by the, way since we're talking
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: About california, politics two other notes real, Quick the race
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: to Replace Gavin newsom as becoming more and more pathetic
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: by the. DAY i, mean it's just astonishing that one
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: of the most powerful positions in the, country maybe the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: second most powerful political position in the, country governor Of,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: california has a situation where there is almost nobody of
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: any quality who is anywhere near the lead in that.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: RACE i, mean these are this is basically the level
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: of a mid range congressional district. Race that's the quality
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: of people that are running. HERE i, mean it's just to.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Joke it's, sad it's. Pathetic And i've said many many
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: times That Donald trump ended any chance that A republican
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: could possibly win because he Endorsed Steve, hilton which meant
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: that there was no chance For Sheriff, bianco who's the
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: second Place, republican to also get into the top. Two
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that's the only way A republican can possibly win In
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: california is if the Two republicans, somehow by some, miracle
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: pull it inside. Straight they both get around seventeen eighteen
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: percent of the. Vote no Other democrat gets seventeen, percent
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and now you have this incredibly delicious situation which would never.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Happen my, god the heads that would explode In california
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: if this ever somehow did occur where you have Two
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: republicans running in The november, election thus ensuring that A
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: republican would be the next governor Of. California any chance
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: of that occurring ended When trump got into the. Race
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: because his endorsement has Pushed hilton ahead Of. Bianco hilton
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: will probably make the final two and then he's gonna
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: get slaughtered In, november and the person he's going to
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: go up against is either going to Be Tom steyer
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Or Javier. Bashera, NOW i went on News nation after
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: one of The california debates a couple of weeks, ago
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: AND i basically predicted that it would Be. Pishera AND
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: i thought That newsome And harris And Barack obama would
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: eventually come into the race to assure that there was
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: no possibility that A republican could win both of the
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: top two spots into The november, election and then they
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: would Endorse pishera because they just don't Trust. Stier he's
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the rich. Douchebag AND i actually Think stier is being
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: hoisted a little bit on his own petard because his
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: commercials are, ubiquitous but they're actually. BAD i think the
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: more you watch The Tom steyer, commercials the less you like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: him and the polling data seems to be consistent with.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: That he is basically topped out or maybe even seemingly
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: going in the other direction when it comes to his
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: level of, support, Well bshera.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Is, rising not because But chera has done anything, great.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Simply because he's the only Significant latino candidate in the.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Race and you've got A Democratic party WHERE i at
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: least half the voters are going to Be, latino and
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: they haven't been paying attention and now they're suddenly paying
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: attention because they got to vote in a few, weeks
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: And butshera is the Only, latino so he's the one
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: they're getting enough, attention and he's of their racial, demographic
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: he's of their. Tribe they're going to vote for. Him
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: so gun to my, Head i'd probably say it's going
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to Be beshera And hilton at this, point and Then
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: bishera will win, easily, which, frankly as A california it
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: isn't the absolute worst scenario Because bishera seems to be
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: somewhat harmless because he's just doesn't seem to have a
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: lot of, energy doesn't seem to have a lot of.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: AMBITION i, mean he's just a left wing nut job
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: like all the Other. Democrats But Tom, STEYER i think
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: would actually be worse and way more annoying Than. Bshera,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: regardless it's going to be terrible for us here In.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: California but there's no chance of A republican winning the
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: governatorial race In california or the mayor's race In Los.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Angeles whether you Call Spencer pratt A republican or, NOT
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: i guess at this point he's pretending to be. One
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: BUT i want to disabuse you of those. Delusions those
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: are not gonna. Happen and the shame of The trump endorsement,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: is WHEN i look at the polling, data there was
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: a chance right where we are right, now If trump
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: had not Endorsed, hilton or if he had done something
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: really really, interesting which of course is Beyond trump's. Capabilities
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: If trump had, said, hey, look if you're A republican
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: In california and your last name starts with AN a
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: to AN, M i want you to vote vote For.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Hilton and if it starts with an end to a,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Z i want you to vote For bianco or. Whatever
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the whatever would split the vote as evenly as, Possible
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: there would be a statistical. Chance it would have still
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: been a long, shot but there was a. Chance As
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Jim carrey was famously said in the, Movie so you're
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: saying there's a, Chance, well in this, case there was a.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Chance but that got ended When Donald trump stepped into the.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Race and MAYBE i would love to, know we'll never.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Know maybe because he didn't even understand the. SYSTEM i
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: think it's quite possible That trump just saw a poll
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: where this guy he sees On Fox news, Channel Steve,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: hilton is, leading and he wants to try to take
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: credit for that, somehow and thinks maybe he actually has
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: a chance to win because he doesn't even understand the.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: PROCESS i don't know that it's just a theory of,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: mine but the reality is That trump's endorsement ended any
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: legitimate hope of A republican winning the governor's race In.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: California one other note On california, politics because it's gotten
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of play nationally this In november election and
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: is going to have a proposition on the ballot where
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: people are going to get the vote on what's being
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: called the billionaire's, tax and this is beyond an. Abomination
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: i'm not going to spend too much time on it.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Today i'm SURE i will between now In november when
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: people are actually going to vote on. It but it
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: appears as if it's going to be on the. Ballot
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: it is, qualified or at least has enough signatures to
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: qualify for the. Ballot but this is incredibly. Dangerous i've
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: been somewhat pleased by the reaction to, it even among
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: moderates and some liberals, online where this is so insane that,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: maybe just maybe rationality could win the day. Again Whenever i'm,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: OPTIMISTIC i get very, hesitant because that's usually when i'm.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Wrong But i'm not convinced as of today it's going to.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Pass if it, DOES i, Mean california is already, toast
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: but we will be just beyond. Cooked because, effectively what
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: this is is a supposed there's the one time thing,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: again just like they did with the redistricting one time
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: which is total. Bullshit one time tax of five percent
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: on the net worth of billionaires net, worth not, income net,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: worth unrealized, gains.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Essentially.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Theft they're just gonna take five percent of your shit
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: because you have too much, shit and they're gonna do
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: it in a way that's logistically, impossible and of course
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: is already causing billionaires to leave the. State it's targeting
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: basically two hundred. PEOPLE i, mean there's so many elements
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: of this are that are at least constitutionally, troubling if
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: not blatantly totally. Unconstitutional that's another HOPE i have of
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: this is that if it does, PASS i would think
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: that THE Us Supreme court would step in and say, no, no, no no.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: No there's so many problems with. This you cannot do.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: This BUT i just want to at least acknowledge it
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: because it's beginning a lot of attention, nationally and understandably,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: so because you, know Both New york And california are
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: going down this path of complete and total fascist socialism
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: where they're just gonna steal the shit of somebody because
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: they're worth too much money based upon some arbitrary, standard,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: which by the, way in this proposition In, california there's
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: apparently a, stipulation a poisoned pill within the verbiage that
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: allows the state legislature to lower the. Threshold but by the,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: WAY i thought it was supposed to be a one time.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Deal why would they be needing to lower the threshold
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: of who qualifies to have five.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Percent of their stuff. Taken it's a.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Nightmare it's just completely. Insane but there's still hoping me
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that this is so, crazy so, nuts so obviously, counterproductive
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: really would not generate any new income and would cause
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: massive catastrophic damage that, maybe just maybe the state Of
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: california won't go for. It but, Again i'm sure we'll
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: talk about that sometime in the, future because it does
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: appear as if it's going to be on The november
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: ballot here In. CALIFORNIA i want to turn now to
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: what is probably my favorite story of the last, week
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: and it's certainly got a ton of attention, online especially
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: on social, media especially ON X and What i'm referring
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: to is news of a lawsuit against a FEMALE Jp
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: morgan executive that alleged blatant sexual, harassment if not sexual,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: assault as well as clear racism on the behalf of
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: a male who was at first known As John. Doe
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: we didn't know the. Identity this is key the understanding
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: how this story. Evolved we didn't know the identity of
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: the man that was filing this lawsuit against a top
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: FEMALE Jp morgan. Executive all we knew at, first and to,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: me this is the reaction to the story is way
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: more interesting than the story.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Itself the story.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Itself is pretty fascinating and, hilarious, frankly but the way
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: this went down is all we knew at first was
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: that there was some horrendous allegations in a lawsuit being
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: made by a man against a female executive AT Jp.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Morgan and we had a photo of the, woman and the,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: woman by any, measure but especially by the standards of Corporate,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: america was, hot, blonde, attractive you, know certainly by corporate executive,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: standards a, ten even by real world standards at least
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: an eight and a half or, nine a very very attractive.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Woman and you hear about these allegations where she's almost
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: taking this guy, hostage sexually dominating, him making racist comments towards,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: him and.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: My knee jerk blink reaction was this is total.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Bullshit that's ALL i needed was that the allegations were,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: ridiculous and the photo of the woman indicated to, me
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: there's no chance this is. Real there's no chance this actually,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: happened and at FIRST i THOUGHT i would be in
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: the majority because it's just so obvious that this story is.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Bullshit there's just no way this.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Happened that there's no way that this, hot, blonde youngish
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: female executive AT Jp morgan was using her position to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: dominate someone who was a, suborman a subordinate WITHIN Jp
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: morgan to.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Use this man for.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Sex and some of the statements that were made were
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: just ridiculous and certainly not consistent with any woman That
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: i've ever met in my fifty nine years of. Life
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: And i've actually been in a. Situation i've talked about
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: this briefly. Before i've never told the full story, before
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: But i've been in a situation WHERE i was sexually
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: harassed by a female. Boss this was WHEN i was
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: working in television In philadelphia for The Comcast network and
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: a woman by the name Of Lynn, doyle who was
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: a very attractive woman in her day but was on
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: the downhill. SLIDE i think she was somewhere around fifty
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: ish WHEN i worked for. HER i was kind of
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: the writer co host of her talk show that had
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: been languishing doing very, poorly AND i injected all sorts
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: of life and ratings into the, show a show that
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: she only had because she was married to a Top comcast,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: executive which is key to the whole. Story AND i
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: was extremely. Naive never occurred to me THAT i was
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: being actually harassed UNTIL i ended up after a series
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: of very suspect, circumstances including being invited into her bedroom
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: during a party to watch A Mike tyson fight where you,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: know at her, house where nothing, happened and then two
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: days LATER i got fired from the job one day
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: after my probationary period was, over so they miscalculated on the.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Days and, frankly it's the number one economic regret of
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: my life THAT i did not pursue this more, vigorously
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: mainly because you, Know comcast is an incredibly deep pocketed
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: entity that you, KNOW i had them buy the. BALLS i,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: mean a, top Top comcast executive who gave his wife
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: this television show and she CLEARLY i didn't have full
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: proof of, it but they believe me BECAUSE i did pursue,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: it AND i gave my full story to their their
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: counsel and offered a, settlement WHICH i took very quickly
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i had coincidentally just gotten another job as a
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: radio talk show host In, louisville AND i was so
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: snake bit that anything that could possibly go wrong would go.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: WRONG i didn't want to make a big deal out
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: of it BECAUSE i didn't want The louisville situation to blow,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: up and so it was unfortunately bad, timing AND i
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: THINK i settled FOR i THINK i pocketed like ten
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: grand or something ridiculously low for what IF i really
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: had pursued it could have been game changing type. Money
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: and it was just so bizarre to me, that you,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: know this geeky Guy John, ziggler who has never had
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: much sex appeal at, all would somehow be the subject
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: of sexual harassment by a female. Boss that was just
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: so outside my concept of experience THAT i was extremely
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: naive to it until it became very very obvious that
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: that's what had. Happened so that's context for the way
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: THAT i was approaching this. STORY i, Mean i've experienced
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: something at least within the ballpark of what was being alleged,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: here AND i was still positive there's no chance this
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: story is. Real BUT i was stunned BECAUSE i kept
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: thinking that the reason why this story is going viral
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: is because people are not believing, it And i'm sure
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: there was some of, that BUT i frankly think a
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: lot of people.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Did believe, it and then a lot of other people.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Just wanted to believe, it like it's such a great
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: story from the man's, perspective that this hot female boss
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: is dominating you sexually and forcing you to do all
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: sorts of crazy sex. Acts and the fact that it
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: happened AT Jp morgan and the image OF Jp, morgan
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: all of THAT i think fed into this narrative, that
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: especially for a lot of, men this was a story
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: that they really wanted to be. True so you had
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: some people to believe all sexual assault or harassment allegations are,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: true which is incredibly. Dangerous then you have a lot
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: of other people that wanted this to be true because
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: of the unique circumstances surrounding, it and THEN i think
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: get a minority of people like me that were, like,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: going this is. Bullshit, INTERESTINGLY i think most of the
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: this is bullshit people were women who looked at the
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: allegations are, like there's no way this is, real based
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: upon just some of the things that are allegend some
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: of the things that were supposedly, said well things got
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: really interesting just a few hours later when we finally
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: realized and it was revealed who the man who filed
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: the lawsuit, was and we got a photograph of this,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Person and when we got a photograph of this, person everything,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: changed AND i felt like this was so incredibly, telling
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: so telling about the way we react to allegations of
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: sexual harassment or sexual, abuse because when we saw the
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: photo of the guy and it turned out that he's
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: a Geeky, indian probably even geekier THAN i was at
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: my most, geeky everyone was really, Realizing, okay this is.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Bullshit and that was before we found out about this
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: guy's history of making all sorts of other bs. Claims
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: he apparently may have tried to file a lawsuit against
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: a man using similar. Allegations he faked the death of
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: his dad to get off of. WORK i, mean the
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: guy's a. Fraudster he's nots apparently he's no longer A Jp.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: MORGAN i don't know how long he's going to be
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: at the job he currently, has because he's created an
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: enormous amount of very very negative publicity for. Himself but to,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: me the most important and most interesting part of this
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: story is that based upon the photo. ITSELF a vast
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: portion of the population's opinion on this story seemed to change,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: instantaneously because as soon as we saw the photo of
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: the Geeky, indian we, Realized, okay there's no possible way
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: that this hot white blonde was doing, this especially WHEN
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Jp morgan had already come out strongly in defense of
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: the female employee and had indicated that she had cooperated
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: with an investigation and he had not cooperated with an.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Investigation, so by the, way.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Forget about the photographs and the relative attractiveness of the two.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: People right, there in a rational, world that should end.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: It SO Jp morgan looked into. It we all know
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: how incredibly sensitive to negative publicity in this area Corporate america.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Is and if they're going to back the person who's
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: being accused and substantively say, well they, cooperated the other person.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Didn't we didn't find any evidence that this, happened that
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: should be. It we should inherently know this isn't a true.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Allegation but it took the, photograph the photograph of the,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: guy for people to finally go, oh, oh, okay oh.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: DAMN i wanted this story to be. True and now
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: we know it's not, true and to me that was
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: just so incredibly telling about the way people react to
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: these allegations of sexual harassment or sexual. Abuse people can think,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: rationally but only under certain, circumstances and in this, case
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: there were two key parts of the, circumstance the man
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: being the one making the allegation as opposed to the.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Woman BECAUSE i think we are, far, far far more,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: likely especially, liberals to believe all women because that's what
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: we've been told we have to do in the post
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Me to, era than to inherently believe a. Man and
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: by the, way there's some logic to, that because men
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: and women are. Different what a man wants and what
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: a woman tends to want are, very very. Different the
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: power dynamics are completely. Different you, Know i've talked many
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: times before about how women are attracted to power far
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: more than men are attracted to, power which is frankly to,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: me a huge part of many of these, situations whether
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: It's Eric swalwell or other. CIRCUMSTANCES i don't even Put
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Matt lauer Into Eric swalwell's category because they're very different.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Stories but you, know The matt lower story is important
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: to understand because he got railroaded because women wanted to
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: sleep with, him and then they changed the story when
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: it became convenient for, them when me too happened when
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: they're incentive structure, Changed and so you, know there's absolutely
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: a fundamental difference between the way men and women look at.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: This AND i think that people were willing to be
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: logical about this simply because of the change and gender
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: from what we normally have come to expect when it
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: comes to sexual harassment and sexual assault and the photographs
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: and because of, that people were able to have the
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: scales fall from their eyes and, go, oh, OKAY i
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: see that this is. Bullshit but the part that frustrated me, Is, okay,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: people good. Job i'm glad that when a man makes
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: a bullshit allegation against an attractive woman and we see
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: the photographs and it's clear that there's no possible way
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: that this woman was doing this to this Geeky indian,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: dude that you're willing to.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Say that the story is.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: False but why aren't you willing to say a story
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: is false based simply on logic and facts and lack of,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Evidence because.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: This, story well clearly utter.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Bull, crap is not unique And i've documented many many,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: times whether it's The sandusky, case The Michael jackson, case
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: The Ohio state wrestling, case there are, many many times
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: were the allegations that have been accepted by the news
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: media and by large portions of the public and effect
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: especially by academic institutions that are afraid of their own,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: shadow are just as, crazy just as lacking incredibility as
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: what this guy was claiming in a lawsuit against this
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: female executive FROM Jp. Morgan and by the, way for
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: the one hundredth and first, TIME i want a reference
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: just how insane it is that the news media inherently
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: takes seriously a. Lawsuit it just tries to me, crazy
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: especially when like in The epstein, case where we don't
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: have nearly as many lawsuits as we should. Have lawsuits
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: are incredibly easy to. File if there was any truth
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: to this particular, situation there would have been some sort
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: of a criminal complaint or, charge because a lot of
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: what this guy was alleging was clearly. Criminal but there's nothing.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Criminal it's just a lawsuit and it hasn't even gotten
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: into court.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Yet that's the.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Part of The it is so, insane making that the
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: standards of reporting on this have gone into the toilet
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: where it used to. Be at the very least you
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: got to get into a. Courtroom you got to know
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: it used to be at least get a civil trial
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: verdict against somebody for these types of. Allegations, now all
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: you got to do is file a, lawsuit and it's national.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: NEWS a lawsuit is just a piece of. Paper it's
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: incredibly easy to file a, lawsuit and so that means,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: nothing but somehow it still has magic in the eyes
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: of the news. Media but my main takeaway for THIS
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Jp morgan story Is, okay congratulations media and Public you
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: figured out that this story was not, True but you
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: only did so because of these unique circumstances involving the
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: genders of those involved and the relative attractiveness of the
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: two people allegedly. Involved if it hadn't been for, that
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: you probably would have bought this bull crap. Story and
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: if this person's willing and able to make this up
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: in a, lawsuit who else has been willing and able
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: to make up this kind of stuff in a. Lawsuit
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: just because it's in a lawsuit doesn't mean it's remotely,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: true and this story proves it in. Spades But we
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: only got it because of those two unique, circumstances the
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: fact that there's a woman who's being accused and the
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: fact that she's way more attractive than the. Man you
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: take that, away and people are going to buy this
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: utterly insanely absurd, allegation and it keeps happening time and
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: time and time. Again and so to, me this was
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: the exception that proved the. Rule the fact that people
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: figured this one out proves why it is that they
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: don't figure out other stories that should be debunked rather
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: easily if we're thinking about this. Logically but logic and
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: evidence apparently have no real power. Anymore photographs still do
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: that'll hit people. Viscerally and the idea that a hot
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: woman is going to in a position of power is
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: going to threaten her entire career to sexually harass an
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: assault a Geeky indian dude just doesn't pass the blink,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: test and understandably. So but there were all sorts of
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: reasons to realize that this story wasn't. True that's just
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: the one that won the. Day now i Mentioned, EPSTEIN
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: i have to very quickly give you an update on
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: a Story i've talked about dozens and dozens of times
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: on this, podcast probably too. Much BUT i am very
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: fervently of the belief That Jeffrey epstein killed himself in
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: a federal. Prison i've gone through many times. Before why
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: it's obvious that that's what. Happened, well we now have
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: evidence of a suicide. Note, yes he left a suicide,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: note but we've only now just learned of it because
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: it got involved in a separate. Case it's a little
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: bit complicated as to how and why this, happened but
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: to me it makes sense because of the way that
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: it was. Found it got part of a completely different.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Case in, fact it wasn't even part of The epstein.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Files in, fact it appears as if the authorities weren't
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: even aware of, it, which of, course you, know somehow
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: the crazies are going to say this is all part
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: of the conspiracy and this is, bullshit and this isn't
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: true because they so desperately want to believe That epstein
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: was killed in a federal. Prison BUT i am completely
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: convinced always was that he killed, himself and that this
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: suicide note is further evidence that obviously he killed. HIMSELF
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: i believe that he either tried to kill himself, twice
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: or the first time was a dry run to see
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: whether or not he could get away with, it and
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: whether or not he had to adjust his. STRATEGY i
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: will never, know BUT i think that theory makes some,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: sense although having found this suicide note and the timing
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: of that suicide note kind of goes against. THAT i
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: think it goes slightly to the idea that he tried
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: to kill himself twice and he failed the first, time
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: and then he figured out how better to do it
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: the second. Time but here we are in a story
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: where rationality and evidence have no real, power and so
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: somehow the fact that we now have a suicide, note
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: a documented suicide note From Jeffrey, epstein will not change
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: anybody's minds.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: That he actually killed.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Himself in, Fact i'm sure the crazies are convinced that
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: a suicide note is further evidence that he didn't actually kill.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Himself how that, WORKS i don't, know but the mental
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: gymnastics that these people are capable of no no. Bounds
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: BUT i just wanted for the, record Because i've talked
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: about this so many times, before to make it clear
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: that there's even more evidence THAT i was right About
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey epstein, itself because we now have a suicide. Note
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: but unfortunately it came to light in such a way
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: that no one's going to change their, mind because no
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: one changes their mind about anything. Anymore people believe whatever
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: the hell they want to. Believe and for some, reason
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: people want to believe that he was somehow murdered in
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: a federal prison with no actually no actual suspects seven years,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: later which is an impossibility given the nature of a federal,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: prison given the nature of the massive conspiracy and cover
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: up that would have to be involved in this for
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: this murder to not come to public. Knowledge it's. Impossible
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: it's absolutely. Impossible and now we have further evidence that,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Yes akham's, razor he killed, himself and he even had
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: a suicide note written in prison before he did. So
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: one of those that is in the camp Of Jeffrey
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: epstein seems to be and very much in the camp
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Of Jeffrey epstein didn't actually kill. Himself in, fact he
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: even confronted The Donald trump about this and was unmoved
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: By trump telling him that he believed That epstein actually killed.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Himself Was Tucker, CARLSON i mean that was one of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: the most telling and bizarre media moments in the last several.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Years we discussed it several times in this podcast Where
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Tucker carlson is Interviewing Donald, trump a guy you know
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: that he helped get the presidential nomination on The Republican party
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, four who was president of the time
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: That epstein died in a federal, prison would have obvious
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: knowledge of the. Situation Knew epstein well for many. YEARS i,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: mean So trump is about as good an expert as
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: you could possibly have on whether or Not epstein actually killed.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Himself carlson doesn't believe That epstein killed. Himself trump tells
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: him in an, Interview, YEAH i think he killed. Himself
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: And carlson was completely, unmoved completely, unmoved WHICH i thought
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: was so telling about the nature Of Tucker carlson and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: the conspiracy crazy that have taken over the conservative. Movement
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: and it's good context for the fact That Tucker carlson
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: is now back in the news because of a very
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: interesting interview that he gave To The New York.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Times AND i want.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: To play two clips from this interview that were, very very.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Different the first is one that went viral because it
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: was effectively a gotcha On Tucker, carlson Where tucker makes
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: a claim that's not, true or at least he claims
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: that he never said something that he clearly did, say
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: specifically Regarding Donald trump and whether or Not Donald, trump
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: the guy he helped get elected president and was advising
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: until just a short period ago before The Iran war broke,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: out it was very much Advising trump against going into
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: war With iron That Donald, trump that Same Donald, trump
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: might actually be the Anti. Christ And carlson was convinced
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: that he never said, this and it was proved by
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: the interviewer that he did say, It and this clip
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: went pretty darn viral online because people love a, gotcha
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: and this is a pretty good. One so Here's Tucker
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: carlson being interviewed by a female reporter from The New
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: York times actually did a pretty good job in this
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: interview and being caught in a blatant, lie which he,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: then in Classic tucker, fashion pretends wasn't a big deal
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: because he doesn't even know what The antichrist. Is and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: here's what that sounded.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: Like you've been talking on your show about Whether trump
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: is The. ANTICHRIST i have not said.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: That on your.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 7: Show the day After, easter you noted he did not
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 7: put his hand on The bible during his swearing and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: ceremony as. President you, said And i'm, quoting maybe he
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: didn't put his hand on The bible because he affirmatively
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: rejects what's inside that.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: Book and then on a.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: Recent show you went, further, saying here's a leader who's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 7: mocking the gods of his, ancestors mocking The god of
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: gods and exalting himself above.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: Them could this be The?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: ANTICHRIST i actually did not say this be The. Antichrist
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his, ancestors
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 6: mocking The god of gods and exalting himself above. Them
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: could this be The? Antichrist, well who. KNOWS i don't
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: know where that comes, from BUT i know that those
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: words never left my, lips Because i'm not SURE i
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: fully understand what The antichrist. Is if there's just ONE
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: i actually tried to understand, IT i may have said
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: summer asking That i'm not weighing on that BECAUSE i
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: don't understand.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: It.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Now the significance to me of that, clip other than
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: the entertainment of Seeing tucker get caught and then try
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: to weasel out of it by claiming. Ignorance in Classic tucker,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: fashion is that it Exposes Tucker carlson as a, charlatan a,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: chameleon a shape. Shifter you. KNOW i have talked, many
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: many times about the fact That, tucker a GUY i
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: used to have a lot of respect, for is not
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: the same. Person there's something wrong with. Him but he
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: comes in and out of. Rationality and that's maybe the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: most frustrating part About Tucker, carlson because he'll say some
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: things that seem really. Smart sometimes they're, funny they're, coaching
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: they might even be, pruscient and then he'll go off the.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Rails AND i honestly don't have a great explanation for
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: what happened To Tucker. CARLSON i never. Have i've come
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: up with some, theories but they've never felt solid to.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Me BUT i have been way way ahead of the
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: curve on the reality that he's not a credible. Person
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: he's not somebody that should be picking who The republican
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: presidential candidate is in a critical, election which is effectively
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: what happened in twenty twenty. Four AND i have lumped
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: him With Megan, kelly And Candice owens together in WHAT
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: i call The alliance of. Lunacy AND i think THAT
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: i have been vindicated in that in every possible, way
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: they all three of those people are no longer. Credible
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: they're all very, smart they all have huge, followings they
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: all have elements THAT i can understand why they are
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: appealing to an. Audience but they are not trustworthy. People
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: they are shape. Shifters there's something going on with their.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: MOTIVATIONS i don't know what it. IS i don't know
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: whether or Not tucker has been compromised By russian interests
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Or islamic, interests whatever it.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: IS i don't.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Know i'm just telling, you not a credible. Person but
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: what's frustrating About tucker is that there's still. Flashes he's,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: LIKE i guess that an, athlete maybe like A Tiger
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: woods who can no longer play at a top, level
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: but there's probably still flashes like there always isn't golf
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: where if everything comes, together you, go, wow that was
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: the GUY i. Remember that's The TUCK i. Remember and
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: there were moments during This New York times interview WHERE i, Thought,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: okay that's really an interesting.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: ANALYSIS i didn't necessarily.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Agree with, it BUT i, Thought, okay that's The tucker
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: THAT i used to have a lot of respect, for
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: even though on The iran WAR i generally disagree with.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Him and What i'm specifically referring to is How tucker
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: went into great detail about his attempts to Convince trump
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: to not go to war With iran and his predictions
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: about what would happen to his presidency if he did
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: go to war With, iran and there were several moments
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: in this interview Where tucker talked about. THIS i actually
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: thought one of the most, interesting Which i'm not gonna,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: play is where he Tells, trump you do know That
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: democrats are going to win the next election and tear
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: everything you did down and all this gold is going
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: to go, away and they're gonna take great joy in doing,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: this WHICH i think there's a very good chance that's.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: TRUE i, Mean i've said many TIMES i don't know
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: That trump understands how hellis the last two years of
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: his presidency are likely to be If democrats win The
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: house and maybe The senate in the midterm. Elections if that,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: occurs his last two years are going to be beyond.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Miserable and then If newsom or someone Like newsom wins
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: The democratic nomination and the presidency in twenty twenty, eight
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: all they're gonna do for the first year of the
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: presidency is just tear down everything That trump, touched literally and.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: Figuratively but the clip That i'm about to play for
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: you here goes, TO i think an even deeper, issue
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: which is Why trump was in favor of going to
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: war With. Iran and according To, carlson AND i tend
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: to believe, This according To, carlson it's kind of the
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: blind faith. Theory it's the theory, that, hey EVERYTHING i
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: do ends up working, out so, basically just trust.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Me, NOW i fully.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Acknowledge That carlson has an incentive here to not really
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Give trump's full side of the. Story so maybe there
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: is more to his side of the story Than carlson
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: is portraying. Here but according To, carlson here was the
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: nature of his conversations With Donald trump when it came
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: to deciding whether or not to go to war With.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: Iran did he explain to you why he wanted to
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: take the country into.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: War he would begin almost every conversation with do you
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: want to run to have a nuclear, weapon to WHICH i,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: said won't wan anyone have a nuclear. Weapon it doesn't
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: seem like a good. Thing but that's not the. Question
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: the question is what do you do about? It AND
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: i would, say, well you, know here are the potential
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: effects of. This, obviously the geography Of iran run is
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: not a military powers and economic. Power that was obvious
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: because it controls the Greatest spand did he.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: Explain to you why he wanted to take the country into?
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: War he would begin almost every conversation with do you
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: want to run to have a nuclear? Weapon to WHICH i,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: said won't want anyone to have a nuclear. Weapon it
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: doesn't seem like a good. Thing but that's not the.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: Question the question is what you do about? It AND
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: i would, say, well you, know here are the potential
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: effects of. This, obviously the geography Of iran ron is
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: not at military powers and economic. Power that was obvious
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: because it controls the greatest span of coastline along The Persian,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: gulf which is the source of fifth of the world's,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: energy et. Cetera all well known now and well known
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: to him, then and HE i think perfectly understood the.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 7: Consequences why was he taking your calls, THEN i, mean
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 7: was he trying to convince you to back the.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: War, no he made no effort to convince me at,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: all other than to say it's going to be all,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: Right everything's gonna be. Okay he, knew AND i know
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: he knew BECAUSE i talked to him about it, directly
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: that the consequences were profound and profoundly bad the end
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: of his presidency to, start WHICH i think it has
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: proven to. Be he knew that BECAUSE i was getting.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: Overwrought don't do. This the people pushing you to do
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: this hate, you they're your. Enemies this will destroy.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: You there's an element of What carlson said, there if,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: true that is very troubling to, me because it does
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: feel as If trump understandably believes that he has lived
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: a charmed, life that you, know it's all going to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: work out for, me because it always. HAS i, mean
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: this is a guy who faced economic obliteration in the
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: early nineteen. Nineties the banks had him by the. Balls
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: i've talked before about the meeting that was called that
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: perfectly related to my father's relationship To Donald, trump where
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: the banks were deciding whether or not to Let Donald
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: trump live or. Die and they decided to let him.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Live they gave him an allowance so he could pretend
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: to be, rich and he escaped what would have been
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: a devastating end if he had not been a. Celebrity
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: that would have been the end Of Donald trump as
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: a businessman in the early nineteen. Nineties but he survived,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: that and he has survived all sorts of threats, economic,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: political and even threats on his. Life three assassination. Attempts
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: and when you survive assassination.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: Attempts you. Know Winston churchill.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Was said to have one sopine that there's no greater
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: exhilaration for a man than being shot without. Result, Well
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Donald trump has been shot without, result and now three
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: times at least people have come close to trying to assassinate,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: him and he's still, standing and he's still. President and
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: he came from the absolute wilderness where he was attacked
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: politically and legally indicted four times and somehow still became.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: PRESIDENT i get. IT i can, understand especially someone as
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: narcissistic As, trump is going to have so much faith
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: that it's all going to work, out that they might
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: do something that they haven't fully thought. Through And i'm
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: someone that's very prone to believing That trump is right
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: about Preventing iran from getting a nuclear.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Weapon AND i will say.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: My number one criticism Of carlson here is That carlson
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: acknowledges That iran shouldn't get a nuclear, weapon but he
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to accept the reality that that has a,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: cost you.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Know just like he.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: Claims That trump didn't think it through and the ramifications
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: of what would happen if we go to war With,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: Iran carlson hasn't thought through the ramifications.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: If we didn't prevent them from getting a nuclear.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: Weapon So carlson's trying to have it both Waysier And
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: i'm very open To trump's view of. THIS i am
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent in the camp That iran cannot be
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: allowed to get a nuclear, weapon, period end of. Sentence,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: now how you do, that how you prevent that from,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: happening and what kind of risks and what kind of
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: costs you're willing to endure to make sure that that
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: never happens is obviously open for. Debate and my concern
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: about the Way trump has handled this is.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: He didn't think this. Through.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Strategically we're seeing that on almost a daily. BASIS i,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: mean he changes his mind day to day on what
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: the strategy, is the tactics, are what he's willing to
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: do this project, freedom and the strait of our moves
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: gets dramatically announced to that it gets suspended because we
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: might we might get a.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Deal maybe we, do maybe we. Don't it's, very very
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: very clear this was not thought through.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Strategically and what bothers me about What carlson said there
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: is that If carlson's being truthful about, it it seems
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: to have been based in blind faith That trump has
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: in himself that everything's going to work out because it always,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: does and in his life that has been the. Case
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: but first of, all luck tends to eventually run, out
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: and the stakes here are exceedingly. High so that did
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: not give me a lot of, confidence even Though i'm
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: willing to acknowledge That Tucker carlson may not be telling
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: the full truth about the nature of his discussions With
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Donald trump on the decision to go.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: To war With.
• 1:13:55
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