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Hour 1: Brooklyn Bridge. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, the Mark Simone Show on 710WOR. Filling in for Mark,
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  Speaker 1: here's Ken Rosado. And happy, happy Friday. Oh, it's so
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  Speaker 1: nice to say those words. Happy Friday. So nice to
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  Speaker 1: be with you, Mark. I hope you're enjoying your nice
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  Speaker 1: day off, your nice long weekend. You deserve it, my friend.
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  Speaker 1: It is Ken Rosado, former TV news anchor from New
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  Speaker 1: York City. For those of you who are from New York,
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  Speaker 1: you know I used to be on Channel 7 for
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  Speaker 1: 20 years. I did the morning and midday shows at
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  Speaker 1: Channel 7. I was on Channel 5, Good Day, before that.
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  Speaker 1: And even if you have a good memory, I was
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  Speaker 1: on Channel 55 for a bunch of years as well.
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  Speaker 1: to check it out. ONNJ.com on New Jersey. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: it is good to be here on Labor Day weekend Friday.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of those days that, you know, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times you don't want to say Happy Memorial Day
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  Speaker 1: because obviously it's about remembering those who've died for us.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to say for certain holidays, happy this
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  Speaker 1: and happy that because the holiday means something else. Labor
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  Speaker 1: Day is like we're celebrating labor. We're celebrating all of
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  Speaker 1: us who work. So you could say, happy Labor Day.
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  Speaker 1: And it is nonsectarian. You could say it to everybody.
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  Speaker 1: So go out in the streets and just scream, happy
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  Speaker 1: Labor Day to everybody. Just don't get in their faces
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  Speaker 1: when you do it. Our number today, of course, as always, 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710.
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  Speaker 1: What a mess. If you were listening to the news,
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  Speaker 1: you heard Daria Albinger talking about this and You heard
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  Speaker 1: it all morning, along with the morning show, of course,
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about this, Curtis. I heard Curtis, in fact, specifically,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me as I swallow, talking very specifically about the
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  Speaker 1: mentally unstable whom we have in New York. And Curtis
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  Speaker 1: is 100% right. I know that when he was out
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  Speaker 1: there with the Guardian Angels, he encountered a lot of
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  Speaker 1: them over the years. And of course, there are, it seems,
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  Speaker 1: more and more that we're encountering in public. So once again,
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  Speaker 1: we had a case this morning of a person who
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  Speaker 1: was holding a knife, we assume an emotionally disturbed person.
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  Speaker 1: People near the Brooklyn Bridge on the Manhattan side said
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  Speaker 1: that the first witnessings, if you will, of this individual
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  Speaker 1: was about three o'clock in the morning. And this is
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  Speaker 1: a man who was just... flashing around a knife at
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  Speaker 1: people on the brooklyn bound side of the brooklyn bridge
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  Speaker 1: but close to manhattan okay and apparently somebody called police
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  Speaker 1: and they showed up uh about 3 34 o'clock in
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  Speaker 1: the morning finally between 4 and 4 30 they closed
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  Speaker 1: the brooklyn bound side of the brooklyn bridge uh near
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  Speaker 1: south and dover streets uh that was all closed off
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  Speaker 1: fortunately it is holiday time if you will it's a
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  Speaker 1: holiday weekend so maybe traffic wasn't as bad i don't
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  Speaker 1: know as it could have been but it was still
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  Speaker 1: pretty darn bad That whole part of Manhattan, you couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get over to Brooklyn via the Brooklyn Bridge. You had
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  Speaker 1: to take the tunnel or go over into Queens and
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  Speaker 1: work your way down. But just an absolute, or of
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  Speaker 1: course the Manhattan Bridge, but just an absolute mess this was.
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  Speaker 1: So police were there doing the two calls that I
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  Speaker 1: know from my relatives. My dad was a police officer
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  Speaker 1: for years. The two calls that a cop does not
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  Speaker 1: like to get and have to respond to are domestic disputes,
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  Speaker 1: Because you never know. The husband could be beating the wife.
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  Speaker 1: You go to intervene and all of a sudden the
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  Speaker 1: wife turns on you because you're pushing the husband against
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  Speaker 1: the wall and trying to cuff him. Stuff like that
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  Speaker 1: happens a lot. Any police officer will tell you. And
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  Speaker 1: the other call you don't like to get is an
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  Speaker 1: emotionally disturbed person. And that is because you don't know
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  Speaker 1: how it's going to turn out. By definition, the person
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  Speaker 1: is emotionally disturbed. You could say, calm down. And many
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  Speaker 1: of the officers who respond are specially trained to keep
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  Speaker 1: them calm. But no matter what, you don't know if
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  Speaker 1: the person is on something or off something. Maybe they're
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  Speaker 1: off their meds, so they're unstable. Maybe they just had
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  Speaker 1: something to push them over the edge. And that's why
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  Speaker 1: we love our NYPD, because no matter what, they try
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  Speaker 1: their best and they put their lives on the line
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  Speaker 1: to try to deal with whatever the situation. But this emotionally,
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  Speaker 1: allegedly emotionally disturbed person had a knife. Police confronted the person.
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  Speaker 1: The individual, the reports are that it was a man.
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  Speaker 1: When the police arrived, the man confronted and allegedly charged
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  Speaker 1: at the police. And we believe that that led them
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  Speaker 1: to allegedly shoot him. Everything is allegedly right now. We're
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  Speaker 1: not getting a lot of confirmation. So this is the
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  Speaker 1: sketch of the story right now until we get more information.
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  Speaker 1: So the Brooklyn-bound lanes and parts of the bridge walkway
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  Speaker 1: were closed for hours. Everything was reopened at 8.30. We
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  Speaker 1: don't know the man's condition. That's all under investigation. The
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  Speaker 1: man could be alive. We don't know. It could also
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  Speaker 1: be that the man was so seriously shot that maybe
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  Speaker 1: they're on the edge. And that's why they had to
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  Speaker 1: have such a massive investigation. But whenever there's a police shooting,
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  Speaker 1: you know that they have to send out the troops
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  Speaker 1: and just take pictures and measure everything. And that takes hours.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why things were closed. So when we hear
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  Speaker 1: that crime is down, this is the lowest crime summer
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  Speaker 1: on record. You notice they pointed out when they made
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  Speaker 1: that comment. One of the main bases, if you will,
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  Speaker 1: that they made that statement, the NYPD, was based on shootings.
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  Speaker 1: Shootings were down dramatically year to year. But you notice
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  Speaker 1: what they didn't talk about. What? Stabbings. Stabbings. Where are
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  Speaker 1: the numbers on stabbings? Now, for the last week, it
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  Speaker 1: seems that almost every day we've had another stabbing. And
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  Speaker 1: it seems in almost every case it's been an emotionally
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  Speaker 1: disturbed person involved in stabbing somebody. In some cases, fatally,
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  Speaker 1: as we know from the poor woman who was stabbed
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  Speaker 1: to death the other day. It was Monday here in
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  Speaker 1: Times Square. So stabbings, are they down? Well, we know
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  Speaker 1: that from these statistics, year to year, overall felonies were
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  Speaker 1: flat in New York. So they didn't go up or down.
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  Speaker 1: And the number of rapes actually increased. The only thing
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  Speaker 1: that went down was shooting murders. That went down. But
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  Speaker 1: what about stabbings? You know, so this is... Listen, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to trade off one for the other. I
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  Speaker 1: want neither one of them. How about that? I want
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  Speaker 1: to be able to get off a subway or get
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  Speaker 1: on a subway knowing that I will be perfectly safe.
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  Speaker 1: I could get on a subway, either stand or sit,
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  Speaker 1: and then five, ten minutes later get off the subway
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  Speaker 1: and get to my destination and then repeat when I
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  Speaker 1: come home. That's what I'm paying for. That's why people
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  Speaker 1: live in New York City. They shouldn't have to wonder
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  Speaker 1: if they will or won't make it home or end
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  Speaker 1: up in a hospital later in the day. And the
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  Speaker 1: job of the police... when they're allowed to do their
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  Speaker 1: job by a mayoral administration like we have now that
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  Speaker 1: basically handcuffs them at every angle and every possibility, when
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  Speaker 1: allowed to do their job, they keep us safe. When
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  Speaker 1: you have the likes of Alvin Bragg, Manhattan DA, who says,
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to charge people for these 90% of
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  Speaker 1: the crimes. We're not going to charge them. Hey, you
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  Speaker 1: can commit all those crimes that you want. Because you
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  Speaker 1: deserve to be let go because of past wrongs that
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  Speaker 1: have occurred with people in general who are of color
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  Speaker 1: or who lived in certain neighborhoods or who came from
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  Speaker 1: certain countries. As a result, we're going to not charge
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  Speaker 1: anybody for any of these crimes over here. We're just
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  Speaker 1: going to go after people who murder people. And then
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  Speaker 1: the next year he says, look at this, crime is down. Yeah, Alvin,
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  Speaker 1: crime is down because you chose not to charge 90%
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  Speaker 1: of the crimes, crimes that we used to charge people
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  Speaker 1: for years past. Look, you may love Rudy Giuliani or
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  Speaker 1: despise Rudy Giuliani, but the one thing you got to admit,
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  Speaker 1: and I lived in New York, not in the city proper,
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  Speaker 1: but went to high school and college in Manhattan and
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  Speaker 1: always was within 15 to 20 minutes of Manhattan my
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  Speaker 1: entire life. And I was around during the Giuliani administration.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember you couldn't drive into the city prior
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  Speaker 1: to Giuliani as much as I loved Ed Koch. You
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  Speaker 1: couldn't drive into the city without a squeegee guy coming up.
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  Speaker 1: And if you didn't give the squeegee guy a buck,
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  Speaker 1: You would slam your windshield in many cases with the squeegee,
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  Speaker 1: crack your windshield. You don't want to get into confrontations
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  Speaker 1: with them. They had those filthy squeegees they were using.
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  Speaker 1: It was gross. They were in many cases mentally disturbed. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you didn't give them something, you worried
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  Speaker 1: that you took your life in your hands. So it
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  Speaker 1: was sort of out of trepidation. You just reach in
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  Speaker 1: your pocket and you gave them something. Well, it started
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  Speaker 1: with them. And when Giuliani came in, he got rid
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  Speaker 1: of the squeegee guys. If you were around New York then,
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  Speaker 1: you'll know. Apparently, half of New York wasn't around then.
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  Speaker 1: These are half of the people in New York right
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  Speaker 1: now are relative newcomers, so they've never lived through that.
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  Speaker 1: But we're sort of back in that era where we
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  Speaker 1: have people who intimidate other people, and you're supposed to
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  Speaker 1: just take it. Oh, that's just living in New York.
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  Speaker 2: No, no.
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  Speaker 1: We learned through Giuliani... And prior to Koch, actually prior
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  Speaker 1: to like Beam, Mayor Beam, we didn't have that. You
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  Speaker 1: could walk around the city and be perfectly safe. I
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  Speaker 1: know people used to keep their car doors unlocked in
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  Speaker 1: the city back in the day. Never had a problem.
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  Speaker 1: No issues. And then when you gradually let, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the old broken windows policy. When you gradually let, well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll let this crime go. First it goes, starts with pollution. Then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you want to drop your garbage. And what
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  Speaker 1: do you want me to do about it? Then it becomes,
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  Speaker 1: let the squeegee guy do the squeegee. And then graffiti.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if they want to do graffiti on your building,
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  Speaker 1: let them do it. They want to rip down a
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  Speaker 1: flag and that makes them happy. Oh, if they want
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  Speaker 1: to do drugs. want to smoke pot in public, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: They want to spit. They want to urinate in public.
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  Speaker 1: They want to be topless. And then it gets to
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  Speaker 1: the point where there are no laws. There are no rules.
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  Speaker 1: And we walk around in a city that is uncivilized. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: the word civilized comes from the Latin word civitas, C-I-V-I-T-A-S.
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  Speaker 1: It means city. The word city comes from civity, if
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  Speaker 1: you will, in Latin. That's where we get it. It
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  Speaker 1: got shortened in French to cité and then becomes city
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  Speaker 1: in English. And so civilized means living in a city,
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  Speaker 1: meaning you act in a way that you can get
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  Speaker 1: along with large numbers of people. That's what it means
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  Speaker 1: to be civilized, to live in a city. What we
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  Speaker 1: have is a bunch of people living together, but more
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  Speaker 1: and more we are accepting an uncivilized type behavior. And
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  Speaker 1: that's something that we don't have to accept. We don't
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  Speaker 1: have to accept that. But it happens in little increments.
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  Speaker 1: Little by little, you're like, eh, what are you going
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  Speaker 1: to do? Live and not live. No one wants to confront.
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  Speaker 1: And before you know it, you have what you have.
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  Speaker 1: And you could say, well, crime can, largest decrease in
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  Speaker 1: crime year to year in recorded history. Well, listen, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not pointing the finger and I'm not suggesting, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: trying to blame, but you know that captains of precincts
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  Speaker 1: and whatnot, The fewer crimes that they submit, the more
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  Speaker 1: the pat on the back for them. So you have
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  Speaker 1: to wonder in many cases, and I'm not saying it happened.
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  Speaker 1: I have no evidence. I'm telling you right now. But
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  Speaker 1: I have anecdotal evidence from people who are police, and
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  Speaker 1: I have police officers in my family, and I have
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  Speaker 1: police officers who have been friends for years. And the
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  Speaker 1: question is, how many times are the numbers fudged? And, well,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to put this down. That didn't get reported
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  Speaker 1: until the 31st. I'm not going to put that down
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  Speaker 1: this month as part of this statistic. This is really
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  Speaker 1: a misdemeanor.
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  Speaker 3: You know what?
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  Speaker 1: Let's not charge him. Let's put it off for a
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  Speaker 1: month and see. And then it'll be in next month's statistics.
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  Speaker 1: But that's how things happen. And then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's only five fewer felonies in your precinct,
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's down. Look, it's down a
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  Speaker 1: tenth of a percent month to month. Because you pushed
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  Speaker 1: it off to the next month and you reported in
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  Speaker 1: your paperwork the next month. That's how it happens. And
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  Speaker 1: it's all about making it look good for the police commissioner.
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  Speaker 1: Not that the police commissioner picked up the phone and said,
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  Speaker 1: this is what I need you to do. No, that
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  Speaker 1: is not. In fact, I can almost guarantee that is
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  Speaker 1: not what happens. But it's sort of an unwritten rule.
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  Speaker 1: You kind of know, hey, you know what? Cut her
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  Speaker 1: some slack. She'll cut you some slack. Everybody's happy. Stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that does happen. It does happen. Again, I have
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  Speaker 1: no evidence. I'm not saying I have conclusive proof. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm speaking anecdotally. It happens. And then boom, you have
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  Speaker 1: a story in the papers that crime is at its
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  Speaker 1: lowest point. Meanwhile, every single day, it's who are you
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  Speaker 1: going to believe me or your own lion eyes? We
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  Speaker 1: have another stabbing, another murder, you know, but, but yet
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  Speaker 1: somehow crime is down to its lowest point. Well, listen,
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  Speaker 1: crime has always happened in New York and it always will.
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  Speaker 1: It's a big city. I've been a journalist in New
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  Speaker 1: York city for, since I'm in my teens, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: almost 60, okay? I've been doing this a long time.
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  Speaker 1: But I can tell you that of late, this is
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  Speaker 1: literally a daily thing, right? We're talking about stabbings every
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  Speaker 1: single day in New York. So when they talk about
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  Speaker 1: shootings are down, okay, so now they're just choosing an
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  Speaker 1: alternate means of killing people. Let's use a knife. And
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  Speaker 1: you can get a knife everywhere. So this, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: goes against the argument of the people who are anti-Second
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  Speaker 1: Amendment all these years, who talk about guns killing people.
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  Speaker 1: And if we'd only get guns off the streets... Murders
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  Speaker 1: would go down. Guns may make murder a little more convenient,
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  Speaker 1: but people then just pick up an alternate means. They'll
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  Speaker 1: pick up a rock if they want. There was a
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  Speaker 1: guy in Brooklyn on Sunday who picked up a discarded
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  Speaker 1: baby crib and threw it at a 90-year-old woman, almost
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  Speaker 1: killed her, knocked her down. She broke her hip. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: just for no reason, just because he was mentally unstable,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. But this is living in the city today,
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  Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be. You shouldn't be a 90-year-old woman
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  Speaker 1: in your ending your waning years on this planet and
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  Speaker 1: go out like that. And that is just not justifiable ever.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: 800-321-0710. 800-321-0710.
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  Speaker 1: This is 710WOR. Ken Rosato in for Mark on your
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  Speaker 1: Friday of Labor Day weekend. And of course, before we
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  Speaker 1: go to break, we can't not mention what's going on
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  Speaker 1: right now in the Clancy trial. So Everything's open up.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, I find it interesting. I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at the layout here as I raise the microphone so
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  Speaker 1: I get a better look at the TV monitors. Fox
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  Speaker 1: News Channel, all over it. They're in the courtroom in Plymouth,
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  Speaker 1: Massachusetts right now. CNN going back to back, head to head,
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  Speaker 1: also in the courtroom. Then you go to MS Now,
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  Speaker 1: totally different story.
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because they weren't on it from the start. When I
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  Speaker 1: worked at Channel 7, I remember we used to say,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying anything out of school here. I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. But one of the things we used
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  Speaker 1: to say is own the story. So you're in for
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  Speaker 1: a penny, in for a pound. If you're going to
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  Speaker 1: go in on the story, even if it doesn't look
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  Speaker 1: at first to be a big story, you go in
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  Speaker 1: with three camera crews and you own it. And then
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  Speaker 1: if it does turn into something big, the other guys,
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  Speaker 1: they look like they just dropped the ball. So just
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  Speaker 1: looking at this MS now from the start, I guess
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  Speaker 1: they didn't own it. So now they're not even touching
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  Speaker 1: the Lance trial, but Fox News Channel is on it.
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  Speaker 1: So is CNN. I guess they have to have a
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  Speaker 1: presence there. Of course, for those who may have missed
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  Speaker 1: it last night, there was another note brought to the
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  Speaker 1: judge before he finally dismissed them for the night, the jury.
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  Speaker 1: And they apparently are kind of deadlocked because of one person.
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  Speaker 1: And listening to the morning show, Larry and Curtis this morning,
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  Speaker 1: Everybody had their own theory, and none of us knows, right?
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  Speaker 1: We're all guessing. My theory, and I can't hear the judge.
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  Speaker 1: He's talking right now. We'll find out if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 1: My theory is, you know, the fact is there are
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  Speaker 1: nine women and three men on the jury. Massachusetts is
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  Speaker 1: an extremely liberal state, probably the most liberal state in
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  Speaker 1: the country, more so than California, more so than New York,
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  Speaker 1: I believe. These are liberals who, like the most conservative
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  Speaker 1: person is a mainstream Democrat in the state of Massachusetts,
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  Speaker 1: and that's that. There are no Republicans, period. And my
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  Speaker 1: theory is that the person who is standing out, who's
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  Speaker 1: standing firm, is a man, one of the three men
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  Speaker 1: on the jury. And I think he wants the maximum.
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  Speaker 1: And he doesn't want to listen to the other 11.
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  Speaker 1: So remember the options that the jury has right now.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: They could say, starting at the top, they could say, well,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the very, very top would be guilty of first-degree murder.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: which is mandatory life, no parole. Guilty of second-degree murder,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: which is life with possible parole. Guilty of manslaughter, which
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: is up to 20 years. It could be not guilty
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: by lack of criminal responsibility, which is the other states
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: would call it by reason of insanity. They call it
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: lack of criminal responsibility in Massachusetts because they don't want
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: to say insanity because it sounds so mean. That's Massachusetts liberals.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: And then not guilty. They could literally equip it. That's
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: not likely because both sides agree that she killed the children.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: So you're not going to get a not guilty. I mean,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: one in a trillion that you would get that. So
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: at this point, it's going to be one of probably
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the four. It's going to be manslaughter, second degree, first degree,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: or lack of criminal responsibility, as they call it. We'll
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: see where it goes. Right now it says, tensions flare
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: as Lindsay Clancy jury prepares to resume deliberation. So they're
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: about to send the jury back in to deliberate again.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: But based on the fact that the defense attorney was
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: upset that the judge wanted to keep on the jury,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the one person holding things up, that tells me that
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: the one person is the person who wants the maximum
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: thrown at her. And I could be totally wrong, just
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: a guess. Give us a call. Let us know what
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: you think about it. 800-321-0710. Ken Rosato in for Mark.
• 18:12
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• 18:16
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• 18:23
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• 18:28
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• 18:30
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• 18:34
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• 18:37
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• 18:40
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• 18:43
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• 18:47
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• 18:52
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• 18:56
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• 18:59
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• 19:01
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• 19:06
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• 19:09
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• 19:12
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• 19:14
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• 19:16
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• 19:20
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• 19:22
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• 19:25
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• 19:27
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• 19:32
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• 19:39
  Speaker 1: not like pick up the phone, hey, Maria, how are you?
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: But I am a friend of Maria Bartiromo. We used
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: to host the Columbus Day Parade together for years when
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I was at Channel 7. We used to do that
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: every year. year with my dear bud Joe Piscopo and Maria.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: We used to do that together. And Maria is, just
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: from sitting with her for hours on end and having
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: just conversation after conversation, a wonderful, lovely, kind person. Kind. Caring.
• 20:09
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• 20:13
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• 20:16
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• 20:20
  Speaker 1: story about her family owning, I guess, the T-Rex restaurant
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. And it was named after the ship that
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: her family came over on from Italy to the United States.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: They named the restaurant after that. She's just a great
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: lady and a great conversationalist. And unfortunately, was let go
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: from Fox yesterday. That was the announcement. And the word is,
• 20:48
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• 20:50
  Speaker 1: has not made any public comment. I haven't talked to her.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Everybody I know who knows her, everybody's in speculative mode.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: But the word is that it had something to do
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: with Fox trying to stay away from President Trump, claiming
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: that the 2020 elections were stolen and that it had
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to do based on this is these are President Trump's words. Now,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying my own opinion. This is President Trump's
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: words that it had to do with the Dominion voting system.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: And there was no evidence of that, obviously. You know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: it's one thing to say that because you're angry and
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: it may, you know, who knows 20 years from now
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: what we might discover. All I know is right now
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: there is zero evidence of that. And so Fox News
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: ended up paying $ 787. 5 million in a settlement to dominion voting.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: And so you can imagine any company would be very
• 21:47
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• 21:50
  Speaker 1: charge of a company and I had to pay out
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: three quarters of a billion dollars, a very hard earned cash, um,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: to somebody to settle something. And so allegedly what, what
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: has been rumored is that, um, Maria, um, The allegation
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: is that she basically communicated with the White House and said, well,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you know, Fox is trying to stay away from your
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: coverage because of this and that. And, you know, when
• 22:17
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• 22:19
  Speaker 1: for a company, it's like you are you. I mean,
• 22:23
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• 22:25
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• 22:28
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• 22:32
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• 22:35
  Speaker 1: never talked TV in the house. Literally, you could talk
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: generically about a story, but it was never about coming
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: home and saying, so what did your executive producer say today? Well,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: mine said this. So what did your executive producer, mine said?
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: That didn't happen. You just know that there are certain
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: things you can't talk about when you sign a deal
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: and you're working for a company. But we don't know
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: the full details. The rumor is that that's what happened
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and it got back to the company and she was
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: let go. She will end up on her feet and
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: be great, I'm sure. 800-321-0710. The Mark Simone Show on 710WOR.
• 23:08
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• 23:14
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• 23:16
  Speaker 1: our busy phones and we say hello to Carlos in Summit,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: New Jersey. Good morning to you, Carlos. Carlos, you want
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: to lower the radio in the background. It's on a delay.
• 23:26
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• 23:31
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• 23:32
  Speaker 1: through the delay. Carlos, you there? Otherwise, we're going to
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: come back to Carlos. Put Carlos on hold, please, and
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710 is the number to call.
• 23:46
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• 23:50
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• 23:54
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• 23:57
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• 24:02
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• 24:05
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• 24:08
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• 24:11
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• 24:14
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• 24:17
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• 24:19
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• 24:21
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• 24:24
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• 24:26
  Speaker 1: So is Carlos there yet? We've still got him. Well,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: let's try him again. Carlos, you there?
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Yes. Hello.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: All right, Carlos.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Hi.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Just keep that radio down in the background if you
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: don't mind, because otherwise you're going to get distracted. So anyway,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: good morning to you. Happy Labor Day weekend.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Okay. Thank you.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Ken, the bottom line is this. It doesn't matter if
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: a person is insane on that. You have to pay
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: for your crime. You have to pay for your crime.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: And basically, what this woman did, she's worse than Charles Manson.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: She killed three people, and that's not being disputed by
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: either side. So we don't have to say she allegedly killed.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: She acknowledges, both sides acknowledge, she killed not only three people,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: but they were her own children. And of course, based
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: on the testimony, she sent her husband out and made
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: sure he stayed away long enough so that she could
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: complete the act. It's pretty gruesome. I don't disagree with you.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: My heart is where your heart is. You know, my
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: feeling is there. And then you have women who've been
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: through postpartum depression. And we're saying the argument in her
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: case is postpartum psychosis. But does that give you freedom
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: to go ahead and kill? There are thousands, millions of
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: women probably through history who suffered from severe postpartum depression.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: They didn't kill anybody. So you got to scratch your
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: head and say, you know, you got to do something here.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Three individual lives were taken. They were brutally murdered. So
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, Carlos. When you first heard
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the details of this, what did you first think? Did
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: you always have that feeling right from the start?
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: About what?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that she should— I' m guessing, and I don't want to
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: put words in your mouth, I'm guessing you want her
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: to be found guilty of what? Of first-degree murder?
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Of course, the maximum, yes. All right.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people agree with you,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: and I don't think I disagree with you either. No
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: matter what the extenuating circumstances, you're talking about a situation
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: where three little innocents were just brutally killed. So, Carlos,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the phone call. Thank you so much, sir.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: And we're going to move on. Let's say good morning.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: You are on the air. It's WOR. Good morning.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Hello. Hello.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hello. Yes, sir. You are on WOR on the
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Mark Simone Show. Good morning.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Hey, good morning, Ken. This is Jimmy. I'm calling from Yonkers. And,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: you know, talking about that trial, Ken, you know, there
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: was a case in the 50s, I think in 1954,
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: I believe the name was Constance Fisher. And the lady
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: killed her three kids, was remanded to an insane asylum
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: at the time, or, you know, a psychiatric institute, as
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: we'd call it today. And... She was let out, and
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: later in the 60s, her husband and her stayed together,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: and they had three more kids, and she killed the
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: other three kids in 1966. And it's just a bizarre
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: story and almost a bizarre parallel to what we're seeing today.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: She ultimately committed suicide by drowning herself, but it's a
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: story you might want to look up.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: And I, in fact, I remember, yeah, I remember it just,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: she had, she had a schizophrenia, right? So that was,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: that was, it was paranoid. In fact, it was the
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: first time many in America had heard of paranoid schizophrenia
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: because you didn't have, you know, that kind of thing
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: discussed on national news back in the sixties, but it
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: was 1966 and, when she killed the first three. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: you're right.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: The second three were killed in 1966. The first three
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: she killed in 1954.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Okay. But you have to wonder, it's like, why was
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: she allowed to continue having kids? They did have institutions
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: back then. So I guess with the legal system, they
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: didn't put people into the institutions when they found them
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: mentally unstable or mentally insane at that point. It's just
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: beyond me. But in a case like this, the woman
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: had not one, not two, she had three kids. So
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: after the first child, you didn't have postpartum depression. After
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the second child, you didn't have postpartum. Or if you did,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you did nothing. But the third one, that's what pushed
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you over after a couple of years. I don't know.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a tough sell. And where do
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you think that the jury stands? And I know we're
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: just guessing here. But one person is the same.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: You know, Ken, I don't know. You know, talk with
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: some buddies of mine. We have coffee each day. You know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: I think either way you slice it, Kenny, I think
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: any guy or gal you examine it, you've got to
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: be crazy to do what you did. I mean, you
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: look at it that way. I mean, there's no way
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: anyone in their right mind would just do that. But then,
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: you know, what do you do to the person? That's
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: the way I see it anyway. I don't know.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: What do you do to the person, though, at that point?
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: You know, I've got to be honest with you. God
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: forbid if it was me in that box... I'd have
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: to say, listen, I would say, hey, she's crazy. You've
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: got to put her in some kind of a mental
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: institution of some kind. That's what I would think rather
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: than a strictly a penal institution.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: It's a hard one. That's where maybe myself as a man,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I probably would have come in with some doubt, you know,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: with that reason, because you've got to pick one or
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: the other. And, you know, is she really crazy? And
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: there's so much evidence and so many charges and so
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: many experts that You got to come down on it
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: one side or the other. And then they call somebody.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: If you're really, I don't know what this one juror
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: is about. believe me, but if you're really a person
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: of your conviction and you really have reasonable doubt, you know,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: when they call somebody a holdout, that's almost like a
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: negative connotation. You follow me, Ken? You know, if somebody's
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: really a person says, listen, I really feel this way.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Am I just a holdout or am I a person saying, listen,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: I really do have reasonable doubt and therefore I have
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: to default to option B.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Rather than A.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: And this is why I'm convinced I had this conversation
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: with Larry and Curtis. I walked walked into their studio
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: before I came in here. I'm convinced that it is
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: a man because they remember the jury's broken nine women,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: three men. I'm convinced that it is a man who
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: wants the max, who wants first degree murder. And the
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: reason I say that is because the defense attorney called
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: it a darn shame that the judge would not remove
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: that one juror who was the holdout. Because if the
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: one juror who was the holdout was saying, oh, she
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: needs to go free, then why would the person who
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: is the defense attorney want the person to be off
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the jury panel? You want that person on the jury panel.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: So I think that's fairly obvious. My eyes, I don't know.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Larry believes just the opposite. He believes that the way
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: that the judge spoke that the person is that, that
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the person is holding out and wants her basically acquitted possibly.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: But the five options are not guilty, not guilty by
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: lack of criminal responsibility, which means it's the equivalent of insanity,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: guilty of manslaughter, guilty of second-degree murder, or guilty of
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: first-degree murder. Those are the five options. That's a lot
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: of options. So, you know, I don't know where they
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: all lie in there based on the evidence, but we'll
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: find out. I think, what do you think? My guess
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: is today is going to be the day that we
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: find out.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: I would have to say so. I mean, I would think. And,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: you know, they're all only humans, too, in that jury box.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, after five weeks and all this stuff, they're
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: going to have PTSD themselves, I think, after going through
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: all this. I mean, that's no walk in the park.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you, if I was on that jury,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: I'd tell them, don't ever pick me for another jury
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: for the rest of my life, because you have to
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: go through something like that. I would never want to
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: hear something like that again. They've got to be traumatized
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: for everything they saw, they heard, that they read.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: It's got to be brutal.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, thank God we have a
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: panel of our peers to judge us, right? And that
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: we have this system so we get a good shot.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: This is true.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: This is true.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, we do.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Jimmy from Yonkers, my dad's hometown. That's where dad was
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: born and raised by the Polish Community Center. I appreciate
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: you very much, my friend. Have a wonderful weekend.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Be well.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Thank you. You too.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: You too.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Let's take one more quick call. Kathy in North Carolina.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: How are things down there?
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I hesitated calling because I'm, you.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Know, I get very emotional.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I get very emotional about this.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: First of all, I want to, I want to say that, Ken,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I always think you have the best job in radio
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: and you do the best job too, because you fill
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: in for Mark.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: He's got a great audience.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: But then when you add another hour, I'm thinking it
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: became a little more difficult for you.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: No, so tell me what you feel. Tell me what
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: you feel.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I think everybody knows me by now. I
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: call a lot about this, but you keep on... said
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: it you keep on saying the wrong thing she didn't
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: suffer from postpartum depression.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: No she had psychosis right no no i specified that
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: i specified that before the right of the time no
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: i know.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: But the last couple of times you keep on and
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: people not just you but keep on saying this is
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: a different thing and it is real um my biggest
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: thing is for you guys that want to give her
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: the death penalty which isn't on the table for first
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  Speaker 2: degree or whatever i.
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  Speaker 1: Never said that no let's back up i I never
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  Speaker 1: said that. I love you, and I'll let you talk, Kathy,
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  Speaker 1: but please don't suggest that I said that. I never
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  Speaker 1: said that. I listed the five options.
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying your callers. First of all, it's not on
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  Speaker 2: the table. But as far as first-degree murder is considered,
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  Speaker 2: you have to, except in the state of Texas, you
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  Speaker 2: have to have a motive. What would possibly be her
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  Speaker 2: motive for doing this? And there is none other than
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  Speaker 2: I hate the word crazy, but other than the psychosis,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: she wasn't doing it, you know, to get back her husband.
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  Speaker 2: She wasn't doing it because she was going to have
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  Speaker 2: a better life without three children.
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  Speaker 4: Are you serious?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: She wasn't doing it to, because she was having an
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: affair and wanted to get, you know, out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Or she was going to get money out of it.
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  Speaker 1: She wasn't, she didn't have an insurance policy on the kids.
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  Speaker 3: You're right.
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  Speaker 1: You're right on all of those. No motive.
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  Speaker 2: So with that in mind, I can't even imagine why
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  Speaker 2: legally they were allowed to charge her with the first
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: degree murder. Second thing that I've not mentioned before that
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  Speaker 2: I would love to clear up is the fact that
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  Speaker 2: she premeditated it. She doesn't say that she didn't premeditate it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: It was premeditated. You don't have to have, it doesn't
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: knock out the insanity defense because think of John Hinckley.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I'll give you the most obvious thing. He premeditated shooting
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Reagan But that doesn't show that it's first degree because
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: he premeditated it. He's still crazy. And that's why he
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: premeditated it. See, she, again, she wanted those children. She
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  Speaker 2: believed because of the psychosis and the voices or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: that they were going to go to a better place.
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  Speaker 2: And she was going with them.
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  Speaker 1: Kathy, I don't mean to cut you off. Only because
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: we're up against a heartbreak. I just, in 10 seconds,
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  Speaker 1: what should happen to her? What do you believe should happen?
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  Speaker 2: I personally believe she should have manslaughter because there's both
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: on the both sides. And I think that would be fair.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: But those jurors listened to every day and it looks
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: like they are not going to give her the first
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: degree and just know that they were there. They heard
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: the evidence, unlike many of the callers. Right.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: And they saw they saw images that we didn't see
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: and they don't know. You're absolutely right on all those cats. Kathy,
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  Speaker 1: you listen, call back anytime, especially when I'm here. But
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: call back anytime because I think you have a very
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  Speaker 1: rational perspective. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: God bless you. And I appreciate your rationality.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Thank you. And enjoy your Labor Day weekend. And let's
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: hope that, you know, for the sake of sanity, that
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: everything turns out the way it should. Thank you, Kathy.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: And you're listening to 710WOR. Ken Rosato in for Mark.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: And the last call ran a little bit long. Ken
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Rosato in for Mark. We're coming back right after the news.
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  Speaker 1: Don't go away.