Latest / Eating While Broke / AIDA RODRIGUEZ - Bread, Sauce, and a Breakthrough
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
- 0:03Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have very
- 0:05Speaker 1: special guest, comedian and podcast hosts Aida Rodriguez is in
- 0:09Speaker 1: the building.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Hey excited. This is my kind of show.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Yes, because you like being in the kitchen.
- 0:17Speaker 2: I like being in the kitchen and I like creating
- 0:19Speaker 2: from whatever is in the kitchen instead of trying to.
- 0:23Speaker 2: I love the challenge of creating something with what I have,
- 0:26Speaker 2: and I think it's just survival.
- 0:28Speaker 1: So when you go shopping, do you find yourself picking
- 0:32Speaker 1: up extra random sauces or ingredients like jars of Sometimes
- 0:36Speaker 1: I'll see the jar of peppers and I'll be like,
- 0:38Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put that in the pantry. Do you
- 0:40Speaker 1: do that? Because I'm starting to collect stuff. So when
- 0:42Speaker 1: I am going through the pantry, I'm like, let's mixing this.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I started, But I wasn't always like that. I
- 0:49Speaker 2: would always plan what I'm going to cook, and then
- 0:52Speaker 2: I'll go and shop for the meals and say this Monday,
- 0:55Speaker 2: the lasagna, Tuesday, the Shepherd's pie Wednesday. But but nah,
- 1:00Speaker 2: because I got bored. So now yeah, I do, I
- 1:03Speaker 2: do try different things.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely. I usually just buy the same proteins.
- 1:09Speaker 1: I mainly switch to fish now, so it's like fish
- 1:11Speaker 1: and chicken. But the more I've done eating while broke,
- 1:15Speaker 1: the more I'm like, let's experiment, or if you go
- 1:18Speaker 1: on TikTok or something, you'd be like, I didn't know
- 1:21Speaker 1: sweet potato could do all that. I've been messing with
- 1:24Speaker 1: sweet potato a lot lately.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Sweet potatoes great, great.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Even though one of my friends try to say, there's
- 1:29Speaker 1: an ingredient in sweet potato. You know, if you eat
- 1:31Speaker 1: it every day, you could die, And I was like,
- 1:34Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:35Speaker 2: That's everything now.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Yeah, like just when people have warn you stuff like that,
- 1:37Speaker 1: you're like, okay, we're not talking about. Let me eating
- 1:40Speaker 1: live bags per meal like home now.
- 1:43Speaker 2: One potato day. Sweet potatoes are great.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Yes, now that we're here, though, I want to know
- 1:49Speaker 1: what you were eating during the humble, less fortunate either days.
- 1:55Speaker 2: That was a lot of days, so specifically the meal
- 1:59Speaker 2: or what I was.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Eating the meal, what you're gonna have us eating today.
- 2:02Speaker 2: So it's a French bread pizza and so this is
- 2:06Speaker 2: a meal that I started to make with all the
- 2:08Speaker 2: breads because we wanted to diversify it. But when I
- 2:12Speaker 2: was growing up, I love pizza. I lived in New
- 2:14Speaker 2: York for small amount of time when I was a kid,
- 2:17Speaker 2: and then I moved to Florida and they didn't have
- 2:20Speaker 2: the pizza that I like. Yeah, but also my mom
- 2:23Speaker 2: is Puerto Rican Caribbean parents. They're gonna make whatever you
- 2:26Speaker 2: want to eat. You're not gonna go to get pizza.
- 2:28Speaker 2: You're gonna make pizza. Yeah. So this is just poor
- 2:31Speaker 2: people pizza because we don't have money to make the
- 2:35Speaker 2: to buy all the ingredients to make the dough. And
- 2:38Speaker 2: bread is a great dough. It's a great dough for pizza.
- 2:42Speaker 2: It's a great it's a great base for the pizza.
- 2:45Speaker 2: So I would even make it with sliced bread like wonderbread.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Oh and then yeah, because we were really we were
- 2:53Speaker 2: really poor. So I would do the slice of bread
- 2:56Speaker 2: with the tomato sauce and put the cheese on it
- 2:59Speaker 2: and put it in the oven, and that was my pizza.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's a couple of things going on here, guys.
- 3:05Speaker 1: We have us saying on the show, the broker the dish,
- 3:07Speaker 1: the better the story, which in this case, go ahead
- 3:11Speaker 1: announce the ingredients.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Okay, yeah. No, so the we have a piece of
- 3:15Speaker 2: French bread, which is fancy for us, but French bread
- 3:18Speaker 2: costs about two bucks.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Two bucks for a whole loaf. You coped a whole
- 3:21Speaker 1: family of four.
- 3:22Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can make some sort of like a
- 3:25Speaker 2: I don't know, it would be that that pizza that's
- 3:28Speaker 2: more boxy, the Sicilian style pizza. Always some garlic powder
- 3:32Speaker 2: because I love garlic, and they say that about Puerto Ricans.
- 3:36Speaker 2: We put garlic on Jesus. And then there's some chadar cheese.
- 3:39Speaker 2: But you can, you can.
- 3:40Speaker 1: You know, I'm surprised you didn't ask for mozzarella.
- 3:43Speaker 2: I was gonna ask for mozzarella, but I wanted to
- 3:45Speaker 2: keep it real for what I used to make cheese
- 3:47Speaker 2: with because mozzarella was a little more expensive. So I
- 3:50Speaker 2: was just keeping it, keeping the US back. And then
- 3:53Speaker 2: we use some some pizza marinara sauce. That is usually
- 3:56Speaker 2: what we use for a spaghetti. Yeah, there was a
- 3:59Speaker 2: time where they would make thing called pizza quick sauce.
- 4:01Speaker 2: It was the same thing, but that was a little
- 4:03Speaker 2: more expensive. Then my mom was like, that is just
- 4:07Speaker 2: and now those are my ingredients. And yeah, sometimes I
- 4:11Speaker 2: would even put a little butter on the bread before
- 4:13Speaker 2: I put.
- 4:13Speaker 1: The Does that help it in any way?
- 4:16Speaker 2: No, I just love butter.
- 4:17Speaker 1: I love butter. I will say this though. I used
- 4:20Speaker 1: to hate school lunch, but the only school lunch I
- 4:23Speaker 1: ever loved was the pizza where it was the French bread.
- 4:27Speaker 1: And this will be my first time actually eating it
- 4:30Speaker 1: outside of a cafeteria.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Nice.
- 4:32Speaker 1: So the judging will commence, especially on some cheddar cheese,
- 4:35Speaker 1: but go ahead, start whipping it up. Shows how it's done.
- 4:38Speaker 2: And then the other thing is that we I love
- 4:40Speaker 2: the French bread pizza at my school, but the problem
- 4:43Speaker 2: was that they started putting bell peppers on it, and
- 4:46Speaker 2: I don't like bell peppers.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Why would they put bell peppers on it?
- 4:49Speaker 2: They wanted to torment the poor kids.
- 4:52Speaker 1: For what for high school? There's no kid that's gonna
- 4:55Speaker 1: go for that.
- 4:56Speaker 2: No, that was before high school too.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Oh No, I let me just tell you something. I
- 5:01Speaker 1: love love French bread pizza. If this ends up being
- 5:04Speaker 1: a hit, I promise you I'm going home, probably not
- 5:06Speaker 1: with the cheddar cheese, with the mozzarella, but with the mozzarella.
- 5:09Speaker 1: I'm gonna hook that bad boy up.
- 5:11Speaker 2: But I already felt like I was being fancy with
- 5:14Speaker 2: the French bread and yeah, that's why I didn't say
- 5:16Speaker 2: the mozzarella.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Like I'm following the eating while broke rules.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to follow the rules.
- 5:21Speaker 1: I love that you followed the rules.
- 5:23Speaker 2: Yeah, because we come up here and get fancy, but
- 5:25Speaker 2: that's not what we had. My mom would always have
- 5:27Speaker 2: some of the cheddar cheese. Girl, let me tell you,
- 5:30Speaker 2: I didn't keep it one hundred one hundred with the
- 5:35Speaker 2: sliced American cheese. That was when it was really bad.
- 5:38Speaker 1: Yeah, but you would still do.
- 5:40Speaker 2: It, Yeah, with the select My mom would do that.
- 5:42Speaker 1: That's oh your mama's Yeah, your mom was an immigrant.
- 5:45Speaker 2: My mother's Puerto Rican. So technically they're not considered immigrants
- 5:48Speaker 2: because Puerto Ricans are citizens.
- 5:51Speaker 1: But oh yeah, I didn't even but.
- 5:55Speaker 2: No, but I love that you asked it because it
- 5:58Speaker 2: gives me an opportunity to to talk about it, because
- 6:01Speaker 2: I think a lot of people don't know that Puerto Ricans, yeah, immigrants,
- 6:06Speaker 2: but my mom was born on the island and so
- 6:08Speaker 2: she did migrate here anyway. My grandmother came here in
- 6:12Speaker 2: the fifties and so yeah, we were eating Puerto Rican
- 6:16Speaker 2: food every day. So also having Jamaican heritage. When you
- 6:21Speaker 2: want to eat Yankee food, they're like, no, we don't
- 6:23Speaker 2: eat that. We know, yeah, eat really good food.
- 6:26Speaker 1: And all your all your meals are home cooked. McDonald's
- 6:29Speaker 1: was a luxury.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Yeah, you're watching me make my mess.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Yes, we have to, and I love how you're loading
- 6:35Speaker 1: it with cheese. We're gonna have to put that version
- 6:37Speaker 1: in the oven for all y'all listeners. We had pre
- 6:40Speaker 1: make thee a French bread pizza so it would be
- 6:43Speaker 1: ready and we wouldn't have to wait. But this version
- 6:46Speaker 1: looks very much more like the the luxury version. She
- 6:51Speaker 1: has sacked the cheese and the sauce.
- 6:53Speaker 2: My poverty mentality set in, and I was.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Very she had very limited limitations. But this is my
- 7:00Speaker 1: that looks perfect, all right? So now it is test
- 7:04Speaker 1: the time. Here we go, h not kind of crunching
- 7:11Speaker 1: in the mic, But what do you think you want?
- 7:16Speaker 1: More sauce, more cheese, cheese and this stick back in the.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Day sometimes, But I love it. God, I love French bread.
- 7:30Speaker 1: The trager cheese isn't bad on it? Do you at home?
- 7:32Speaker 2: Though?
- 7:32Speaker 1: We don't do monzarella.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I would do mozzarella. I would also play with
- 7:37Speaker 2: other cheeses. You can do the four cheese time, which
- 7:40Speaker 2: is something that we do, but that was not a luxury.
- 7:43Speaker 1: While broke, I feel like this French bread feels bigger
- 7:46Speaker 1: to me. But the ones in high school were so small.
- 7:49Speaker 1: What bread were they using?
- 7:51Speaker 2: They were probably using not fresh.
- 7:53Speaker 1: They're probably using like masks. What do you call it,
- 7:56Speaker 1: sub breads?
- 7:57Speaker 2: Yeah, mass manufactured. They have like microever of a bunch
- 8:00Speaker 2: of kids. This is the real French bread.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the real I feel like I'm eating
- 8:04Speaker 1: real ingredients. So now take me back to Mama's pizza.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Whatever you could find in your kitchen pizza.
- 8:12Speaker 2: It was just remembering those times when you I would
- 8:14Speaker 2: come home from school and I had a lot of
- 8:17Speaker 2: stuff to do, and I was and my mom. My
- 8:20Speaker 2: mom had had a bunch of other kids.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say how many kids?
- 8:24Speaker 2: She had four four boys, all girls, no two girls
- 8:27Speaker 2: and two boys, but very space style age wise, So
- 8:31Speaker 2: I was pretty much on my own, the oldest. I
- 8:34Speaker 2: am the oldest, so coming home and trying to figure
- 8:37Speaker 2: something out to eat. So I had a job. I
- 8:39Speaker 2: had to do, homework I had to do. I started
- 8:42Speaker 2: working when I was a little kid, they our family
- 8:46Speaker 2: gets made fun of. Because my little sister had her
- 8:48Speaker 2: first job when she was five.
- 8:49Speaker 1: I was gonna say, how what were you doing.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Sweeping up the bakery, the local bakery and getting paid.
- 8:56Speaker 2: They were definitely breaking some child labor laws.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, so did they get an
- 9:02Speaker 1: actual bakery to hire you?
- 9:03Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a bakery on twenty eighth Street where
- 9:07Speaker 2: we grew up. That. Yeah, my little sister even worked
- 9:10Speaker 2: there when she was five.
- 9:11Speaker 1: I love that. Though. Do you look back and say
- 9:14Speaker 1: that was a great lesson for you guys?
- 9:16Speaker 2: For me, it was I'm just tired because I've been
- 9:18Speaker 2: working for a long time. So when people say I've
- 9:20Speaker 2: been working since I was I'm like, you don't even
- 9:22Speaker 2: want to know how far back we could go.
- 9:23Speaker 1: But do you ever tell that to your kids now,
- 9:25Speaker 1: Like I've been working your lazy sixteen year old one
- 9:28Speaker 1: wait till sixteen to get a job.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Of course, it was so funny because many of us,
- 9:33Speaker 2: especially people who are stand up comedians, we have such
- 9:36Speaker 2: a wild ride of life which lands us at the
- 9:40Speaker 2: mic to do stand up. But so many comedians that
- 9:43Speaker 2: I know started working when they were little kids, not
- 9:46Speaker 2: you know, not fourteen fifteen, but little kids. But yeah,
- 9:49Speaker 2: so it would be coming home hungry, tired. I didn't
- 9:53Speaker 2: like lunch at school, so I would take my own
- 9:56Speaker 2: lunch of whatever my mother cooked the day before. Kids
- 10:00Speaker 2: would be eating sandwiches and I'm pulling out rice and beans.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Yeah, and you liked pulling it out. I used to
- 10:05Speaker 1: hate with me.
- 10:06Speaker 2: I didn't like pulling out. So this was something I
- 10:09Speaker 2: would be able to make when my mom was not
- 10:12Speaker 2: on guard. It was just because my mother doesn't think
- 10:14Speaker 2: this is food. This is a snack. There's no there's
- 10:17Speaker 2: no rice and no beans, so it's not a real meal,
- 10:19Speaker 2: though I was able to you know, Vanessa's. But I
- 10:23Speaker 2: remember one time when I was in school in college,
- 10:26Speaker 2: my play cousin you have those cousins that we pick
- 10:29Speaker 2: at make up for the ones that are blood that
- 10:31Speaker 2: we don't like. And my play cousin used to just
- 10:35Speaker 2: die laughing because we were broke, and she was like,
- 10:37Speaker 2: what are we going to eat? And I just went
- 10:39Speaker 2: into the kitchen and made a piecea She was like, bitch,
- 10:41Speaker 2: you made a piece of bread and tomatoes. And I'm like,
- 10:46Speaker 2: this is how we do. We gotta survive.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Right now, Going back did you have to ever look
- 10:51Speaker 1: after your siblings with that big age gap, like because
- 10:54Speaker 1: you're the And then when you would make that money
- 10:58Speaker 1: as a child, would you have to turn it into household?
- 11:02Speaker 2: No? Not really. But I was in charge of myself,
- 11:04Speaker 2: so I was buying my own school clothes. I was
- 11:06Speaker 2: buying my own shoes. I love sneakers, so.
- 11:09Speaker 1: I see by the way she came with a fresh
- 11:11Speaker 1: pair of kicks.
- 11:12Speaker 2: I'm a sneaker kid. So I would buy my own
- 11:14Speaker 2: sneakers because my mom would have me in pro wings
- 11:16Speaker 2: so pay less shoes. So I was like, I don't
- 11:18Speaker 2: want to wear those, So you have to buy your
- 11:19Speaker 2: own Haarachies and your own air Maxes.
- 11:22Speaker 1: But when you're that young, when you're like five or something,
- 11:25Speaker 1: I don't know if you can even remember that far.
- 11:27Speaker 1: But what would happened to that money? Would you save
- 11:29Speaker 1: it for a toy or would you be like money
- 11:31Speaker 1: teach you money rules.
- 11:33Speaker 2: No, they didn't teach me any money rules. They would
- 11:35Speaker 2: take my money. They would definitely take my money off my.
- 11:38Speaker 1: God, yeah, they didn't respect no child.
- 11:40Speaker 2: They really know. I'm not going to even make that
- 11:42Speaker 2: up here, Like will you see these little kids now?
- 11:44Speaker 2: And they have. I have my niece's eight, and her
- 11:46Speaker 2: she has a bank, she has money, these money. Anytime
- 11:49Speaker 2: she gets money, her mother saves her money.
- 11:51Speaker 1: Nah, okay, your mom's Yeah. I saw I had a
- 11:54Speaker 1: guest on the show and they said they had a
- 11:56Speaker 1: Coogan account that got Coogan. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah that
- 12:01Speaker 1: happens though. No, but you were giving up your money,
- 12:03Speaker 1: So that's good kind of I guess from your standpoint,
- 12:07Speaker 1: you could definitely get sick of working, if that's kind
- 12:09Speaker 1: of how it's.
- 12:10Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always been, yeah, so not till I got
- 12:13Speaker 2: old enough. Even though used to steal my money. My
- 12:16Speaker 2: uncles would steal my money because they were they have
- 12:19Speaker 2: a substance abuse problem. Though. I would always put my
- 12:21Speaker 2: money in a drawer and it would just disappear. So
- 12:24Speaker 2: I learned to start stashing my money.
- 12:26Speaker 1: Say, you probably started stashing them and sneakers.
- 12:29Speaker 2: And every other place. There's probably money in my old
- 12:32Speaker 2: building that I forgot about because I hit.
- 12:34Speaker 1: It so crazy, that's crazy. Did you come from a
- 12:37Speaker 1: two parent household I grew up?
- 12:39Speaker 2: Yeah? I did. My stepfather was there and I grew
- 12:41Speaker 2: up with my stepfather and my mom. But I didn't
- 12:44Speaker 2: grow up with my biological father. Okay. So I didn't
- 12:47Speaker 2: find him until twenty twenty one when I did my
- 12:50Speaker 2: HBO special. I went to the Dominican Republic and met
- 12:52Speaker 2: him and I did it on camera and put it
- 12:54Speaker 2: and did a documentary and I put it on the
- 12:56Speaker 2: end of my special on HBO.
- 12:58Speaker 1: HBO Max, Do you guys still have a good Yeah?
- 13:01Speaker 2: I still talk to him. Yeah, it's water under the
- 13:03Speaker 2: bridge for me. You know some people, he's my friend.
- 13:06Speaker 2: He's not. We're not going to a daddy daughter dance, Okay,
- 13:09Speaker 2: he's We're still cool. And he's significantly older than my mom. Okay,
- 13:13Speaker 2: so I just feel like, what I'm gonna do fight
- 13:16Speaker 2: this old this older man, and just I'm not I'm
- 13:19Speaker 2: over it.
- 13:19Speaker 1: But we're cool, Okay, So head me. Okay, so you're
- 13:23Speaker 1: in high school, where do you start to peek into
- 13:25Speaker 1: more of the comedy?
- 13:26Speaker 2: Realm comedy didn't come till later until I moved to
- 13:29Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and that would be I moved here in
- 13:32Speaker 2: my twenties.
- 13:33Speaker 1: So wait, where were you from? Before were even New York?
- 13:35Speaker 2: I was in Miami, Oh, Miami.
- 13:37Speaker 1: In Miami, I felt like you was from New York
- 13:39Speaker 1: the whole time.
- 13:39Speaker 2: You know what it is. I lived in New York
- 13:41Speaker 2: when I was a kid, and it never leaves you.
- 13:43Speaker 2: At this point, I've been in New York more than
- 13:45Speaker 2: I was in Miami, because I'll go back and forth,
- 13:47Speaker 2: and it's really interesting how just I think vibrationally, I'm
- 13:53Speaker 2: more of a New Yorker than I am Immy girl. Yeah,
- 13:55Speaker 2: I don't wear fluorescent pinks. I just it's just a
- 13:58Speaker 2: different vibe and energy Miami. I love what Miami gifted me,
- 14:02Speaker 2: but I do believe that New York lives in me
- 14:05Speaker 2: as well. Yeah so, but comedy didn't come until I
- 14:08Speaker 2: moved here and I was I came here to be
- 14:10Speaker 2: an actress and a writer. And I did a roast
- 14:13Speaker 2: with Chris Spencer was at We were roasting our friend
- 14:16Speaker 2: for her birthday and she invited me and she was like,
- 14:18Speaker 2: you got a roast. I need you to roast because
- 14:20Speaker 2: you're so funny. But I wasn't a comedian yet. So
- 14:22Speaker 2: after the roast, Chris Spencer said to me, Yo, you're
- 14:26Speaker 2: a stand up comedian. And he was like, I don't
- 14:28Speaker 2: think you know it, but you are. He was like,
- 14:30Speaker 2: I want you to go do this open mic. Tell
- 14:32Speaker 2: me how you feel if you don't have, if you
- 14:34Speaker 2: don't like it, you could just be about your business.
- 14:37Speaker 2: But he was like, but I think you should try it,
- 14:40Speaker 2: and so that's.
- 14:40Speaker 1: A huge deal if that Chris Spencer says it.
- 14:43Speaker 2: He did, and so I went and I never stopped.
- 14:47Speaker 2: I've been doing it ever since.
- 14:49Speaker 1: Did you do well your first Yes?
- 14:51Speaker 2: And from what I understand, you always do your first
- 14:53Speaker 2: time because it's adrenaline. It's the second time when you
- 14:57Speaker 2: fought bomb his horrible.
- 14:59Speaker 1: But you need at first high, right, because then you
- 15:01Speaker 1: end up chasing that first high after that, right.
- 15:03Speaker 2: I think. So, I think that's what happened for me.
- 15:05Speaker 2: Some people might have a different story, but I definitely
- 15:08Speaker 2: did the first time I went on stage, I was
- 15:10Speaker 2: set up to win. I paid for it. It was
- 15:13Speaker 2: it was the greatest deceit of all times because I
- 15:16Speaker 2: did a show. It was in Arizona at the Orpheum
- 15:19Speaker 2: in Phoenix, and it was with the I used to
- 15:22Speaker 2: do a show sometimes on the Foxhole with Jamie Fox
- 15:25Speaker 2: and it was Betty put me on a show and
- 15:28Speaker 2: I went to Phoenix and I did this show and
- 15:31Speaker 2: it was like a packed house and I did really well.
- 15:34Speaker 1: This is your first one? And this is an open mic.
- 15:36Speaker 2: This is a very this is not an open mic.
- 15:38Speaker 2: It's my very first time on the show. They put
- 15:40Speaker 2: me on a show and then I did really well.
- 15:43Speaker 2: And then I came back and I did Chocolate Sunday's
- 15:46Speaker 2: First Impressions and I was doing really well and then
- 15:49Speaker 2: I bombed and then I just it just went downhill
- 15:51Speaker 2: from there. I just was like and then I was
- 15:53Speaker 2: on stage looking like a little kid, looking at is
- 15:55Speaker 2: anybody gonna come get me? Yo?
- 15:59Speaker 1: Is there any way to find.
- 16:01Speaker 2: They weren't recording this.
- 16:04Speaker 1: It's funny to see your growth, right, and then to
- 16:07Speaker 1: be able to look back and be like, dang.
- 16:08Speaker 2: Now I'm looking for all my footage from when I
- 16:10Speaker 2: started doing stand up. Because the thing about it is
- 16:13Speaker 2: when you talk to the newer comedians, everybody thinks they're great,
- 16:16Speaker 2: they have a good show. But if you look at
- 16:18Speaker 2: if you get to catalog your stand up, I can
- 16:20Speaker 2: go back in time and see that I wasn't good
- 16:23Speaker 2: and to see my progress and my growth and evolution.
- 16:27Speaker 2: And it's funny because it never stops. You're always thinking
- 16:31Speaker 2: about getting better.
- 16:32Speaker 1: Yeah. I think comics to also debate whether they, especially
- 16:38Speaker 1: in this era with digital whether they should be releasing content.
- 16:42Speaker 1: That's like a big debate. And I think that the
- 16:44Speaker 1: great comics, like the More I've watched, kind of have
- 16:48Speaker 1: insight on the industry. It seems like you just really
- 16:51Speaker 1: have to believe that you can keep coming up with
- 16:55Speaker 1: new materials.
- 16:56Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, the writers, the real comedians do. That's what
- 16:59Speaker 2: we do, right. It's not about getting famous and popular
- 17:03Speaker 2: on the Internet. It's not about it's just about continuing
- 17:07Speaker 2: to grow and to evolve and this set being better
- 17:11Speaker 2: than the last set, and this special being better than
- 17:13Speaker 2: the last special, which is what it's always been about.
- 17:16Speaker 2: It's just now because of the Internet, it's just a
- 17:19Speaker 2: whole different energy around everything that's an art form. But
- 17:23Speaker 2: the true artist, the true crafts people, they're going to
- 17:27Speaker 2: always fight to get better and to keep going.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Yeah, but is it harder now as a comic to
- 17:33Speaker 1: know that not only do you get to have to
- 17:36Speaker 1: passionately specialize in your craft, but now you have this
- 17:39Speaker 1: different space where digital marketing plays a critical role in
- 17:44Speaker 1: a part of your success.
- 17:45Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's terrifying. It's horrifying. We want to quit.
- 17:48Speaker 2: A lot of us want to quit on a daily basis.
- 17:51Speaker 2: There's a bastardization of comedy that is gross and has
- 17:55Speaker 2: added this price tag to it. And this trans this
- 17:59Speaker 2: going viral is so interesting. I've gone viral several times
- 18:04Speaker 2: and people will come to my show and be like, Wow,
- 18:06Speaker 2: you're really funny. You have an hour of comedy. But
- 18:09Speaker 2: that's because I was a stand up comedian before the
- 18:12Speaker 2: internet stuff, so I've always worked on my craft. But
- 18:15Speaker 2: then there are people who are really good at editing
- 18:18Speaker 2: and they can get a good clip, good crowd work,
- 18:21Speaker 2: but then you got to go sit through an hour
- 18:23Speaker 2: of foolishness and people get really upset about that, and
- 18:27Speaker 2: the clubs are even talking about it. It just doesn't
- 18:29Speaker 2: pay off in terms of the audience.
- 18:32Speaker 1: It's it, they're yeah, but the clubs are funny because
- 18:36Speaker 1: I feel like the clubs are constantly looking at the
- 18:38Speaker 1: digital numbers in addition to your talent. But I feel like,
- 18:42Speaker 1: from what I've seen, of course I'm not a comedian,
- 18:45Speaker 1: it seems like they definitely care more about the numbers
- 18:48Speaker 1: now than the talent.
- 18:49Speaker 2: They've always cared about the numbers the money, but they also.
- 18:52Speaker 1: I meant the digital numbers, like the social media following
- 18:56Speaker 1: and yeah, I don't know.
- 18:57Speaker 2: Because when I go to the comedy club websites and
- 18:59Speaker 2: you look at the weekends, it's mainly stand up comedians. Okay,
- 19:03Speaker 2: there's an assembly line of comedians who are not famous
- 19:07Speaker 2: that keep comedy clubs open. You may not know them
- 19:11Speaker 2: and they may not have viral videos, but they show
- 19:13Speaker 2: up every weekend to entertain people, and they keep those
- 19:16Speaker 2: comedy clubs alive. Kevin Hart will go and do some clubs,
- 19:20Speaker 2: or Russell Peters will go and do some clubs. But
- 19:23Speaker 2: it's those everyday people that keep comedians, that keep those
- 19:27Speaker 2: clubs open. They're the ones there right now.
- 19:29Speaker 1: But LA comedy clubs don't have a reputation of say
- 19:35Speaker 1: paying for the most part I've seen they.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Do showcase shows. I think it's just the market way,
- 19:41Speaker 2: the way that it works. Like in New York, they
- 19:43Speaker 2: have a reputation of paying more. I think Los Angeles
- 19:46Speaker 2: has now stepped up their game. We're not getting paid
- 19:49Speaker 2: fourteen dollars anymore for doing sets at certain clubs. They
- 19:53Speaker 2: are paying more, but historically they didn't because this was
- 19:58Speaker 2: the mecca that they would say. The thing is, you
- 20:00Speaker 2: go on the road to get good, you go to
- 20:02Speaker 2: New York to get great. And you come to LA
- 20:04Speaker 2: to get famous. The attitude of you getting on the
- 20:07Speaker 2: stages here would always be like you're welcome because you're
- 20:09Speaker 2: getting exposed.
- 20:10Speaker 1: And there's like an agent in the crowd, someone okay.
- 20:13Speaker 2: But because the Internet has changed so much of it,
- 20:16Speaker 2: I think the clubs have now stepped up their game.
- 20:19Speaker 2: They're paying more, and you're paying competitively with what New
- 20:24Speaker 2: York is paying. And I work both because I just
- 20:26Speaker 2: came from New York yesterday and I was working at
- 20:28Speaker 2: the seller. So it's comparable now, but it wasn't.
- 20:33Speaker 1: If I would have known you were coming from New York,
- 20:35Speaker 1: I would have been like, bring some egros.
- 20:39Speaker 2: There's no Chinese food. There's no Chinese food.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, good to know. Now take me
- 20:47Speaker 1: back to what's where. I understand that Chris saw you
- 20:54Speaker 1: do this roast? Right? What were you doing at the time.
- 20:57Speaker 2: At the time, I was auditioning. I was auditioning for
- 21:00Speaker 2: television and film. I had an agent, and I was writing.
- 21:03Speaker 2: I had a film that I wrote that was like
- 21:06Speaker 2: in the competition for the Sun Dance Writers Lab. And
- 21:10Speaker 2: I was working as an actress, doing independent films, doing
- 21:14Speaker 2: my own thing. I made my own movie with my
- 21:16Speaker 2: own I went and got money and made my own movie.
- 21:18Speaker 2: But I was really focusing on the acting and the writing,
- 21:23Speaker 2: and I had a day job as well.
- 21:25Speaker 1: And this is in LA at this point. Absolutely, But
- 21:27Speaker 1: before you moved to LA, how does that conversation break
- 21:30Speaker 1: out from at this point? Is in New York or Miami?
- 21:32Speaker 2: Miami? Did I moving here?
- 21:34Speaker 1: Yeah? Hey, mom, guess what I'm pursuing acting?
- 21:37Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm leaving. I've always been an entertainer, though
- 21:40Speaker 2: I started modeling when I was fourteen, so I've always
- 21:43Speaker 2: been in the entertainment business. It was just really finding
- 21:46Speaker 2: my way to the place where I really wanted to be,
- 21:48Speaker 2: and modeling wasn't it. Even though I had the potential
- 21:52Speaker 2: to do grade at it and do big things. I
- 21:55Speaker 2: got an invitation to go model in Milan, it just
- 21:58Speaker 2: wasn't my passion because I wasn't talking. I was just
- 22:00Speaker 2: walking and taking pictures. And I'm actually I was pretty
- 22:04Speaker 2: good on the runway. I really enjoyed it, but I
- 22:07Speaker 2: just didn't feel like it was fulfilling. There were people
- 22:09Speaker 2: who really loved modeling, that was their dream and it
- 22:13Speaker 2: wasn't for me. But I've always been in the entertainment business.
- 22:16Speaker 2: I was performing when I was a kid. I was
- 22:19Speaker 2: doing musicals and I wrote my first play when I
- 22:22Speaker 2: was like thirteen years old.
- 22:23Speaker 1: You knew from a very young age this is what
- 22:25Speaker 1: always wanted to be. So when you go to your
- 22:28Speaker 1: mom and you're like, hey, I'm packing up and going,
- 22:30Speaker 1: how old are you?
- 22:31Speaker 2: No? I left home. So I finally left when I
- 22:34Speaker 2: was sixteen, and I never came back. So I was gone, okay,
- 22:39Speaker 2: And I didn't ask permission. I just left. It was time,
- 22:42Speaker 2: I was. It was one of those situations where I
- 22:44Speaker 2: was like, it's time for me to go, but I've
- 22:46Speaker 2: always been.
- 22:47Speaker 1: And then when you left, you went all the way
- 22:49Speaker 1: to La No, I went.
- 22:51Speaker 2: I was there was a journey. I went to tallahah See,
- 22:55Speaker 2: I went to Georgia, I went to San Diego, and
- 22:58Speaker 2: then I moved back to Miami, and then I finally
- 23:01Speaker 2: came to La and I was like, this is where
- 23:03Speaker 2: I'm going to be and this is where I'm going
- 23:04Speaker 2: to stay.
- 23:06Speaker 1: And then how long between that journey and Chris Spencer?
- 23:09Speaker 2: How so, Chris I was here in two thousand. I
- 23:13Speaker 2: started stand up in two thousand and eight, so that
- 23:16Speaker 2: was at years I was working a day job. I
- 23:19Speaker 2: was working for a private bank, but at the same
- 23:22Speaker 2: time that was to pay my bills. But I was
- 23:24Speaker 2: still auditioning. I was an acting class and I had
- 23:28Speaker 2: an agent who is now a producer, Holly Davis.
- 23:31Speaker 1: Carter was just, how did you land that agent? Is
- 23:34Speaker 1: it from when you were younger doing modeling?
- 23:36Speaker 2: No, it was me doing submissions and they called me
- 23:39Speaker 2: in and I did a monologue for them and they
- 23:42Speaker 2: signed me. Agency Wes. Yeah, it was the first agency
- 23:46Speaker 2: that signed me, and it happened relatively quickly. I booked
- 23:49Speaker 2: a movie when I first moved here, an independent film,
- 23:53Speaker 2: so it was interesting. It wasn't like I made it,
- 23:56Speaker 2: but you.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Were working on something you actually cared about. That's the
- 24:01Speaker 1: most important part. So when Chris Spencer hits you with
- 24:04Speaker 1: this whole idea that you can do stand up, I
- 24:06Speaker 1: guess it wasn't completely shopping or was it like you
- 24:09Speaker 1: needed to like go forward.
- 24:13Speaker 2: I was a challenge. I'm very challenged driven, so because
- 24:17Speaker 2: stand up is something I wanted to do, I said
- 24:19Speaker 2: I wanted to do it when I was a kid.
- 24:20Speaker 2: I used to listen to Richard Pryor when I wasn't
- 24:22Speaker 2: supposed to be listening to him, and I was like,
- 24:24Speaker 2: I want to do that. I love Lucy. I wanted
- 24:26Speaker 2: to be the funny girl. So you know, I was like,
- 24:30Speaker 2: why not, let's do it. Let's see because I had
- 24:32Speaker 2: several other people tell me that I should do it,
- 24:35Speaker 2: that he saw that in me, and I was like,
- 24:37Speaker 2: maybe there's something there. But that very first time I
- 24:41Speaker 2: hit the mic, I felt like this. It wasn't just
- 24:45Speaker 2: power like some people feel power, like everybody's listening to me,
- 24:49Speaker 2: like liberation, being able to say things that I was
- 24:51Speaker 2: thinking and I had never been able to express before.
- 24:55Speaker 2: And then to see validation from people who felt the
- 24:58Speaker 2: same way, saying, oh somebody's finally saying it. Yeah, yeah,
- 25:02Speaker 2: it was fun wow.
- 25:04Speaker 1: Okay. So then once you start getting on the comedy
- 25:08Speaker 1: routine comedy scene, that takes a lot of time. So
- 25:12Speaker 1: at this point, are you still doing acting and comedy
- 25:15Speaker 1: and working at the bank. Yeah, so you're doing all three.
- 25:18Speaker 1: But now in LA you're a very funny comic. So
- 25:22Speaker 1: you in LA, you don't get as many ups like
- 25:26Speaker 1: reps in it doesn't seem.
- 25:27Speaker 2: Right, No, you don't. But I was because I was
- 25:30Speaker 2: working in the clubs that other people weren't working, and
- 25:33Speaker 2: I was working at the Comedy Union, which is a
- 25:36Speaker 2: black owned club that welcomed me and gave me a
- 25:39Speaker 2: platform and an opportunity. And I was working a lot.
- 25:42Speaker 2: So I was working at the Comedy Union. I would
- 25:45Speaker 2: go to the improv, I would go to the lave Factory.
- 25:47Speaker 2: I wasn't working at the beginning, but I would go
- 25:49Speaker 2: to the J spot. I was going to the black
- 25:51Speaker 2: clubs because at that time there were some black owned clubs. Yeah,
- 25:55Speaker 2: the High which is a lot an Armenian owned club here.
- 25:58Speaker 2: So I was working in the other spots. I wasn't
- 26:01Speaker 2: just fishing for the show, you know, the laugh factory
- 26:06Speaker 2: of the end prop, because they had prestige according to them.
- 26:10Speaker 2: These clubs have prestige to me, and they had audiences
- 26:13Speaker 2: that were familiar to me, and I felt like if
- 26:16Speaker 2: I couldn't be funny in front of these black and
- 26:18Speaker 2: brown people, then I had no business going to the
- 26:20Speaker 2: other clubs.
- 26:21Speaker 1: So were you averaging three to four mics a night
- 26:23Speaker 1: at that point?
- 26:25Speaker 2: But it would be three maybe three because we also
- 26:28Speaker 2: got to drive.
- 26:28Speaker 1: All around where Yeah, I was gonna say maybe two
- 26:31Speaker 1: three New York.
- 26:32Speaker 2: You jump on the but I would go to the
- 26:34Speaker 2: Jay Spot and I would do two shows, and then
- 26:36Speaker 2: I would go to the laugh Factory and do one.
- 26:38Speaker 2: So it was just it was different.
- 26:40Speaker 1: Did you have to deal with, for lack of better word, predators,
- 26:44Speaker 1: because I feel like in the being a female in
- 26:46Speaker 1: the entertainment business, you're constantly faced with the can you
- 26:51Speaker 1: sleep with me?
- 26:51Speaker 2: Can you?
- 26:52Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And I know that I
- 26:55Speaker 1: know a lot of women that have just been like,
- 26:57Speaker 1: screw it, I'm out. I'm not dealing with this anymore.
- 26:59Speaker 1: It can be like annoying deterrence.
- 27:02Speaker 2: None of the comics can be more vicious than the
- 27:04Speaker 2: dope boys in my neighborhood. In the hood, You're hilarious,
- 27:07Speaker 2: That's the true. None of them, as much as they
- 27:09Speaker 2: thought that they were like ooh, they none of them
- 27:12Speaker 2: were as brutal or as those dope boys would pull
- 27:16Speaker 2: up with Gucci bags and Jay's and be like, what
- 27:19Speaker 2: what's up?
- 27:20Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking, like the comics feel like when
- 27:23Speaker 1: I look at the comedians, they seem almost like family
- 27:28Speaker 1: ish vibe. I was saying that people that are higher up.
- 27:31Speaker 2: I would say, first of all, some of the comedians are,
- 27:34Speaker 2: and they're higher up, and they are predatorial and they
- 27:36Speaker 2: have power, and they have money, and they have position,
- 27:40Speaker 2: and they take women on the road and they do
- 27:42Speaker 2: proposition them and then they tell people that they slept
- 27:44Speaker 2: with them and they talk about them on stage.
- 27:46Speaker 1: So I think that there are even to date they
- 27:49Speaker 1: still do that.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Yeah, corny gonna be corny, and it's corny till the
- 27:53Speaker 2: day they die. That's just hilarious. Some people can't help that.
- 27:57Speaker 1: But I would think with the Me Too though, that
- 27:58Speaker 1: a lot of them are a little little bit more scared.
- 28:01Speaker 2: Nah Me Too didn't affect comedy in that way. Comedy
- 28:04Speaker 2: doesn't have a union. Comedy comedians don't have protectors. There's
- 28:08Speaker 2: just no it's no church in the wild. We just
- 28:11Speaker 2: out there surviving. There's nobody really regulating. Somebody will offer
- 28:14Speaker 2: you a gig and say here's seventy five dollars for
- 28:17Speaker 2: the gig. That somebody else will say i'll give you
- 28:19Speaker 2: fifteen hundred for it is just so there's no regulation
- 28:24Speaker 2: and that's why so many people pray on it. And yes,
- 28:27Speaker 2: some of the people in power will proposition women and men.
- 28:31Speaker 2: Men get propositioned as well. But I think that it's
- 28:34Speaker 2: just you just got to survive in it. For me,
- 28:37Speaker 2: as a woman that's been preyed upon since I was
- 28:40Speaker 2: very young, I've a thick skin for yeah whatever, and
- 28:43Speaker 2: I grew up around a lot of boys, so I
- 28:45Speaker 2: have a lot of stamina for that. But I do
- 28:48Speaker 2: understand why somebody would say, I don't want to do
- 28:50Speaker 2: this anymore. But that exists in everything. You hear women
- 28:53Speaker 2: that work in corporate America talking about sexual harassment. It
- 28:57Speaker 2: is just a reality.
- 28:58Speaker 1: It's a real reality. When I first moved LA, it
- 29:00Speaker 1: happened so much. But I was so young. I didn't
- 29:02Speaker 1: know that there was like things in place to protect
- 29:05Speaker 1: you your first job, and you're like if I go
- 29:07Speaker 1: to HR get fired for telling on them, and you
- 29:10Speaker 1: look back now, you're like, I could have said something. Yeah,
- 29:12Speaker 1: didn't know.
- 29:13Speaker 2: People are afraid of retaliation.
- 29:15Speaker 1: Damn Yeah, of course. So what piece of advice would
- 29:19Speaker 1: you give to someone now in the game, as a
- 29:21Speaker 1: female or just a comic? In general?
- 29:23Speaker 2: I always ask people, be sure this is what you
- 29:26Speaker 2: want to do, and what's your why, because a lot
- 29:28Speaker 2: of people's why is they just want to be famous.
- 29:31Speaker 2: You can just be you can be famous for something
- 29:33Speaker 2: that's less grueling. Because of the Internet. Just go put
- 29:37Speaker 2: eyeliner on every day and then sing a song and
- 29:39Speaker 2: then you could get famous for that because stand up
- 29:42Speaker 2: comedy is are and you don't You got to go
- 29:45Speaker 2: in front of people and the audience is right there
- 29:47Speaker 2: as a captive audience that's gonna let you know exactly
- 29:49Speaker 2: how they feel. You can only fool people for so long.
- 29:52Speaker 2: The real comedy connoisseurs, you can't fool them. The pop
- 29:55Speaker 2: culture enthusiast, sure, they'll laugh with you whatever you take
- 29:59Speaker 2: your clothes or whatever you do, whatever gimmick you have.
- 30:02Speaker 2: But those real comedy connoisseurs, they expect when Bill Bird
- 30:07Speaker 2: does a special, it is full. It's not empty. They're
- 30:09Speaker 2: not spots. There's a bunch of people that love stand
- 30:12Speaker 2: up comedy and real stand up comedians. So what is
- 30:15Speaker 2: your why? Like, why are you doing it if you
- 30:17Speaker 2: really love it? Because it's not easy and it takes
- 30:20Speaker 2: stamina and it takes dedication. And then the other thing
- 30:23Speaker 2: is go as yourself, be yourself. That's your greatest tool
- 30:27Speaker 2: in stand up comedy. People love authenticity relatability because you're
- 30:32Speaker 2: going to eventually show up anyway. So if you're doing
- 30:34Speaker 2: your best impression of who you think this comedian should be,
- 30:38Speaker 2: or if you're impersonating another comic. Eventually it'll wear off
- 30:42Speaker 2: because it requires memory and energy. So go as you
- 30:46Speaker 2: because you are going to show up anyway.
- 30:49Speaker 1: Now. Netflix has been going on this streak of doing specials,
- 30:53Speaker 1: a lot of specials, and I love comedy. However, the
- 30:57Speaker 1: amount of specials, the drive for the specials, and the
- 31:00Speaker 1: end results of the specials. There's some respects like obviously
- 31:04Speaker 1: Joe Koy or there's some really great talent, but then
- 31:07Speaker 1: there's also talent that has been historically great. But they'll
- 31:10Speaker 1: release a special and let's just be honest, it's not
- 31:15Speaker 1: even close to where it should be at. Do you
- 31:17Speaker 1: feel like by a necklace? Netflix continually releasing this type
- 31:21Speaker 1: of content, not at a plus level like maybe those
- 31:25Speaker 1: I don't want to use Bill Burr as an example,
- 31:27Speaker 1: because he's one of my favorite comics, but I want
- 31:29Speaker 1: to say blank comic. It could be a top comic
- 31:33Speaker 1: and say the special comes out and it's like, and
- 31:36Speaker 1: we don't know a specially, we've all seen it, and
- 31:38Speaker 1: I'm sure because you're friends with some of them. I
- 31:40Speaker 1: don't even know how that works when they're like, what'd
- 31:42Speaker 1: you think of my special?
- 31:43Speaker 2: And you're like, hilarious.
- 31:46Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't want to be in those shoes,
- 31:48Speaker 1: but I know I've seen specials where I'm like wow,
- 31:51Speaker 1: and I've seen some specials where I didn't. I couldn't
- 31:53Speaker 1: make it through fifteen minutes. I'm just like why. And
- 31:56Speaker 1: then it gets to the point where your favorite favorite
- 32:00Speaker 1: can drop something and you're like, is it gonna le
- 32:03Speaker 1: cherm me more?
- 32:05Speaker 2: Yeah. So I've always been of the school of thought
- 32:07Speaker 2: that comedy is a spectrum, right, and there's some comedians
- 32:12Speaker 2: that people find brilliant that are not funny to me.
- 32:14Speaker 2: They have their people, I honestly don't have a problem
- 32:17Speaker 2: with them, as long as they're doing the work to
- 32:19Speaker 2: craft an hour of comedy to serve feed their flock.
- 32:23Speaker 2: In terms of Netflix, I'm on I have a half
- 32:25Speaker 2: hour special on Netflix, and I think my Netflix special
- 32:28Speaker 2: did pretty well. Some people would say that our flame
- 32:31Speaker 2: did it. We are all on the Tiffany how to
- 32:33Speaker 2: Stay Ready, and they would say, oh, Tiffany was hot
- 32:35Speaker 2: at the time and that's why the specials did well.
- 32:38Speaker 2: But I don't agree with that because I do think
- 32:41Speaker 2: that people quoting our jokes are asking the clips going
- 32:45Speaker 2: viral on people saying there was a phenomenon. People really
- 32:48Speaker 2: enjoyed that, especially that first season of They Ready. But
- 32:52Speaker 2: I think the people who are at the helm like
- 32:55Speaker 2: that make the decisions about stand up. A lot of
- 32:57Speaker 2: them are making decisions on what they personally like, and
- 33:01Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily make a reflection is a reflection of
- 33:05Speaker 2: what the general population. But right now everybody, everything is
- 33:08Speaker 2: siphoned off. What is I love Pat and Oswald. I
- 33:12Speaker 2: know people who are like, oh, he's not my vibe.
- 33:15Speaker 2: I like this comedian better who dances on stage and
- 33:18Speaker 2: slides across the just like everybody has their own thing.
- 33:22Speaker 2: But I think that funding will always prevail, and if
- 33:25Speaker 2: you're not, it doesn't matter who you are and what
- 33:27Speaker 2: kind of comedy you do. People are If people laugh,
- 33:32Speaker 2: then you did your job. But in terms of the
- 33:34Speaker 2: politics of what Netflix or HBO and all of them doing,
- 33:38Speaker 2: we never know, None of us ever know.
- 33:40Speaker 1: I'm just saying, do you think it hurts the industry
- 33:43Speaker 1: to some degree? But I get what you're saying too,
- 33:45Speaker 1: because it kind of like debunks this question because it's
- 33:47Speaker 1: I get so I can watch a comedy and go.
- 33:49Speaker 1: That's I love toxic family drama, comedy. If your Billboard
- 33:53Speaker 1: or Sebastian, you got beat or torture or with the
- 33:55Speaker 1: exceptional Island degenerous, Ellen degenerous or like Ali Wong or whatever, toxic.
- 34:00Speaker 1: Give me toxic all day. But I know there's an
- 34:02Speaker 1: audience for you grew up in a house and it
- 34:05Speaker 1: was safe. You know what I'm saying. That's relatable, so
- 34:08Speaker 1: I can look at both. But then there's that middle
- 34:12Speaker 1: coling that's now you know that shit was like God,
- 34:15Speaker 1: you have to know that.
- 34:17Speaker 2: We ask ourselves that every day. We're like, did you
- 34:19Speaker 2: really think that? I think I don't. We don't know anymore. Okay,
- 34:23Speaker 2: there's I think the industry is hurt in general, the
- 34:26Speaker 2: comedy industry has been All of the arts have really
- 34:29Speaker 2: been hurt by the Internet. And I think comedy is
- 34:32Speaker 2: really hurting because, like I said, we don't have a union.
- 34:35Speaker 2: But when you think about what people think is funny,
- 34:38Speaker 2: especially when it comes to women, when it comes to
- 34:40Speaker 2: women of color, there's just all these disparities and I
- 34:43Speaker 2: just think it's just fundamentally broken, and just speak specifically
- 34:48Speaker 2: picking at one, it just is it's pointless because it's
- 34:52Speaker 2: broken all the way across the board, whereas people that
- 34:55Speaker 2: you and I both know who are brilliant and funny
- 34:57Speaker 2: and should have ye being all the spaces don't. And
- 35:01Speaker 2: then you see these people who are elevated and it's
- 35:04Speaker 2: because they do well on social media or they reflect
- 35:07Speaker 2: a group that's bigger numbers in America.
- 35:10Speaker 1: Or around That's what I was gonna say next, because
- 35:12Speaker 1: I've seen and not going after Netflix by all means
- 35:16Speaker 1: definitely not just using them as a poster child for
- 35:19Speaker 1: the record, but you'll see even competitions and you'll say, okay,
- 35:23Speaker 1: they're just picking one of one white, one black, one gay,
- 35:26Speaker 1: one trans one and you can tell because one they're
- 35:29Speaker 1: a rainbow. But like you, you'll go, there was five
- 35:35Speaker 1: fire Puerto Rican or Asian or whatever, and they just
- 35:39Speaker 1: because you could just tell by the lineups. And I
- 35:41Speaker 1: feel like in that safe space of equality, it's also
- 35:45Speaker 1: creating like not quality.
- 35:48Speaker 2: I think what it is that this is it's always
- 35:51Speaker 2: been five white guys and one person who is a woman,
- 35:54Speaker 2: a person of color, and I think the transition of
- 35:58Speaker 2: having to create space for other people, well, it's going
- 36:00Speaker 2: to always be painful because it wasn't that way before
- 36:04Speaker 2: people or just used to, oh, it's going to be
- 36:05Speaker 2: a black guy on the show, and now that there
- 36:08Speaker 2: are other people, but it takes time to yeah, And
- 36:12Speaker 2: I think that people want to be seen, they want
- 36:14Speaker 2: to see a reflection of themselves. And it's been really
- 36:17Speaker 2: hard to create equality, equity and justice in a system
- 36:21Speaker 2: that was built on just uplifting the voices of white,
- 36:25Speaker 2: straight white men. And so now that you are trying
- 36:28Speaker 2: to create some sort of representation is not going to
- 36:32Speaker 2: always be perfect at the top because they got to
- 36:35Speaker 2: figure out the whatever's. But it's never been that way.
- 36:38Speaker 2: It's always been the same voice over and over again,
- 36:41Speaker 2: and then maybe you hear a diverse voice, which is
- 36:44Speaker 2: why Eddie Murphy would be so phenomenal because you never
- 36:47Speaker 2: heard anything like that before, because you've always heard I
- 36:50Speaker 2: was walking down the street and then somebody like Eddie Murphy.
- 36:53Speaker 2: It talks about these burgers, who's by far one of
- 36:56Speaker 2: my favorite people in comedy that I want to lift
- 36:58Speaker 2: forever and absolute. He's my favorite. I met him and
- 37:03Speaker 2: it was not disappointing. They say never met your heroes.
- 37:05Speaker 2: I met Eddie Murphy. One of the nicest people, shared
- 37:08Speaker 2: his chocolate cake, here's just one of the nicest people.
- 37:11Speaker 2: That's so refreshing because I think he's one of the
- 37:13Speaker 2: most talented people on the planet. But I just think
- 37:16Speaker 2: that when it's the same thing over and over again
- 37:19Speaker 2: and then you see other people, it's gonna be hard
- 37:22Speaker 2: because we got to be we gotta get good before
- 37:25Speaker 2: we get great, and we've never had the opportunity to
- 37:27Speaker 2: do that.
- 37:28Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is right on the mark.
- 37:30Speaker 1: I never thought of it like that because also, if
- 37:32Speaker 1: say the industry has been closed off to minorities or
- 37:35Speaker 1: different races. Now as a minority, if you take that
- 37:39Speaker 1: leap of faith, you're technically the first one through the door,
- 37:42Speaker 1: beating off history of maybe your family. That's why I
- 37:45Speaker 1: was asking, was your mom's supportive for your family? Being
- 37:48Speaker 1: like Indians are doctors, and you know what I'm saying,
- 37:52Speaker 1: and you want to go against all the rules and
- 37:54Speaker 1: be a comic, you gotta think out of a kazilion,
- 37:58Speaker 1: say Indian people, there's only one or two taking a leap,
- 38:02Speaker 1: and once that one breaks through, then it opens the
- 38:05Speaker 1: flugates of more and more talent. I see what you're saying.
- 38:07Speaker 1: I completely understand.
- 38:09Speaker 2: It's weird because, for example, somebody said, when I did Netflix,
- 38:13Speaker 2: why does she always have to say she's the first
- 38:16Speaker 2: Puerto Rican woman to be on Netflix? But the person
- 38:19Speaker 2: saying that, the person the comment was a white guy,
- 38:22Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's because you've always seen white guys
- 38:25Speaker 2: do stand up comedy. But I am the first Puerto
- 38:29Speaker 2: Rican Dominican woman to have a special on Netflix and
- 38:33Speaker 2: on HBO Max because it wasn't Gina Brion did one.
- 38:36Speaker 2: So she was the one the first half hour special
- 38:39Speaker 2: on HBO Max. I'm the first hour special on HBO Max.
- 38:43Speaker 2: Why do people why is it such a big deal
- 38:45Speaker 2: because it's never been done before, We've never seen it.
- 38:48Speaker 2: Just like when Neil Armstrong went to the moon, nobody
- 38:50Speaker 2: had ever done that before. That was a big deal
- 38:52Speaker 2: for you, right, So that's the same thing. And so
- 38:55Speaker 2: I think people don't realize as much as we feel
- 38:58Speaker 2: like we've moved ahead, we really haven't.
- 39:01Speaker 1: No, especially if you're still hearing comments like that. I
- 39:05Speaker 1: have a four year old, right, and even just looking
- 39:07Speaker 1: at barbies nowadays, I remember growing up and it was
- 39:10Speaker 1: like the white barbies were like it was very rare. Yeah,
- 39:13Speaker 1: it was the standard, and now you go into the
- 39:15Speaker 1: store and there's like a rainbow. Even the barbies come
- 39:17Speaker 1: in different shades. It doesn't even have to be white
- 39:19Speaker 1: or black. Now they're like tan. They're all different sizes
- 39:23Speaker 1: and shapes. They have hips, they got booty, they got hair,
- 39:25Speaker 1: they got afros and stuff. And I'll just be looking
- 39:26Speaker 1: at her like damn, like she we can go to
- 39:29Speaker 1: the store and pick out a doll that she aligns with,
- 39:32Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the rainbow. And there was
- 39:35Speaker 1: a time when it wasn't like that, And I still look.
- 39:37Speaker 2: Back and go, oh my god, like we're in a
- 39:38Speaker 2: time was it even that long ago? Either was not?
- 39:41Speaker 1: And I remember when they were first dropping those black
- 39:44Speaker 1: dolls and I was like, oh, where do you go
- 39:46Speaker 1: on a wait list for that? You know what I'm saying. So, yeah,
- 39:48Speaker 1: representation matters, and especially if you're the first to breakthrough
- 39:51Speaker 1: and take that allow others to do the same. Yeah,
- 39:55Speaker 1: you better claim it every time.
- 39:56Speaker 2: Absolutely. And that said, Tiffany did something amazing.
- 40:00Speaker 1: She did.
- 40:01Speaker 2: What she did was create a way for even Flame.
- 40:04Speaker 2: Flame was trans. Yeah, there are no trans people on Netflix.
- 40:09Speaker 2: That is that's groundbreaking to be able to say I'm
- 40:13Speaker 2: going to put these people who would not ordinarily get
- 40:16Speaker 2: these opportunities. They're all good comics. Chante Wayns is a
- 40:21Speaker 2: Wayans and it was Tiffany who gave her first half
- 40:23Speaker 2: hour special Wow. So that it's just it speaks volumes
- 40:27Speaker 2: to where we are because people think that they're exhausted
- 40:31Speaker 2: because they're like, oh, every time we turn around, women
- 40:33Speaker 2: are talking about this and blah blah blah. But the
- 40:35Speaker 2: truth is that we're still not getting, not even an
- 40:40Speaker 2: ounce of what everybody else is getting. And then one
- 40:43Speaker 2: person wins, and so Kevin Hart now is the most
- 40:46Speaker 2: successful who's also a good person. Then they're like, it's
- 40:50Speaker 2: really interesting because then there's you guys got Kevin Hart,
- 40:54Speaker 2: black people, Why do you need more? Because everybody doesn't
- 40:57Speaker 2: identify with Kevin Hard and every yeah it should be spectrum.
- 41:00Speaker 2: There there were four kings of comedy, not one, And
- 41:04Speaker 2: so I think it's just important to hold all of that,
- 41:08Speaker 2: and then I call out the names of people who've
- 41:10Speaker 2: been good to be and created work for me, like
- 41:12Speaker 2: Kevin and Tiffany, because I think it's important.
- 41:16Speaker 1: Even when you watch that Eddie documentary, which I thought, honestly,
- 41:19Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty good. It was very interesting
- 41:21Speaker 1: to see. How I forgot was that Richard pryor whatever
- 41:24Speaker 1: that caught on fire and it was like the only
- 41:26Speaker 1: have only room for the one, and Eddie was the one,
- 41:29Speaker 1: and it was just like, we're only gonna allow one
- 41:31Speaker 1: sheep and that just one. It was only room for one.
- 41:34Speaker 1: And that's not long ago, you know what I'm saying.
- 41:36Speaker 2: And then Eddie Boomerang and Chris Rock, Martin, Lauren Alan
- 41:41Speaker 2: Greer in it creating a way for other people because
- 41:45Speaker 2: that just wasn't the case. And then you go to
- 41:47Speaker 2: Martin's show and then you see Martin bring all these
- 41:49Speaker 2: other people along, and Tracy Morgan in there, and Tommy
- 41:53Speaker 2: Davison because it's important to continue to create a way
- 41:57Speaker 2: because it's not happening, so we don't do it. Who
- 42:00Speaker 2: nobody's gonna do.
- 42:01Speaker 1: No, But I'd like comedy. I know comedy doesn't have
- 42:04Speaker 1: a union. But one thing I do like about comedy
- 42:06Speaker 1: from a farm, not in it, definitely not in it,
- 42:09Speaker 1: is it does feel like a safe space where even
- 42:13Speaker 1: though I was watching an episode and it was very
- 42:14Speaker 1: unique yesterday, but where I feel like comedians actually support
- 42:17Speaker 1: each other, they don't really hate on each other. From
- 42:19Speaker 1: this side from the side that's watching Eddie or create something,
- 42:25Speaker 1: and they bring other comedians in. You're like, oh, you
- 42:28Speaker 1: guys support each other.
- 42:29Speaker 2: A lot of them do. A lot of them do.
- 42:31Speaker 2: It's a world, it's a universe and it and just
- 42:34Speaker 2: like any other universe, there's everything from there is hating,
- 42:38Speaker 2: and then there is support, and there are the people.
- 42:40Speaker 2: There are people who are really focused on creating something
- 42:44Speaker 2: and making an impact and creating change. And then there
- 42:47Speaker 2: are some people who are just focused on creating chaos
- 42:49Speaker 2: and we just can't focus on them. But there's a
- 42:52Speaker 2: lot of people who are like creating big things. And
- 42:55Speaker 2: look at what Donald Glover did when he made when
- 42:57Speaker 2: he did Atlanta. He gate it a show that platform
- 43:01Speaker 2: three other superstars. Szazzy's in the movie Theater right now.
- 43:05Speaker 2: They Will Kill You.
- 43:06Speaker 1: Lakeith has a movie coming out right He's one of
- 43:08Speaker 1: my favorite, but I.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Love him to. Bryan has a show on Apple. But
- 43:12Speaker 2: that was Donald Glover creating something. Kat Williams won an
- 43:16Speaker 2: Emmy for being in Atlanta. That type of thing is
- 43:19Speaker 2: because we focus so much on what's not happening and
- 43:21Speaker 2: what people are not doing. There are a lot of
- 43:23Speaker 2: people that are creating opportunities for others and me as
- 43:26Speaker 2: a Latina woman, I have benefited so much from the
- 43:30Speaker 2: black creators in this business that have created opportunities for
- 43:33Speaker 2: me when my own community has it, and I'm very
- 43:35Speaker 2: grateful for it. But it's something that inspires me to
- 43:38Speaker 2: do it even within my own community and say, see
- 43:41Speaker 2: this is I love that? Yeah, it's true, I love that.
- 43:44Speaker 1: Now why did you get into podcasting? Genuinely curious? What
- 43:49Speaker 1: made you want to get into that?
- 43:51Speaker 2: So we were talking about a conversation and we were
- 43:54Speaker 2: talking about stand up comedy. Stand up comedy is a
- 43:57Speaker 2: craft and an art form and a science, and people
- 44:00Speaker 2: really think that it's just you talking for an hour.
- 44:02Speaker 2: You just go up there and say whatever you want
- 44:04Speaker 2: to say and be funny, which is not. It's the
- 44:05Speaker 2: craft thing of jokes. But we're having a conversation about
- 44:09Speaker 2: all the things that a lot of us wish we
- 44:11Speaker 2: would say and we didn't. And I thought that would
- 44:13Speaker 2: be an interesting podcast for me. I have ADHD and
- 44:17Speaker 2: I have to be more focused. I can't just sit
- 44:19Speaker 2: and talk about shoot the shit for an hour like
- 44:21Speaker 2: a lot of podcasters do. Magic comes from it. But
- 44:25Speaker 2: I wanted to be more focused and structured so that
- 44:28Speaker 2: I could survive in that platform and that format. And
- 44:32Speaker 2: it was interesting to have conversations before because I kind
- 44:35Speaker 2: of workshopped it before I did it, and it was
- 44:37Speaker 2: every time I talk to somebody, with the exception of
- 44:41Speaker 2: the too cool for school kids that are like I
- 44:43Speaker 2: always say what I'm thinking, which is bullshit, but the
- 44:46Speaker 2: people that were like, dang, I wish I would have
- 44:49Speaker 2: said this. So I was like, oh, I want to
- 44:51Speaker 2: create a platform for people to come and share stories
- 44:54Speaker 2: because it releases other people from it. And it was
- 44:57Speaker 2: more about that where it wasn't. I didn't have the
- 44:59Speaker 2: burden of a punch because it's just a conversation. And
- 45:02Speaker 2: then when we did it the first time, it was
- 45:04Speaker 2: just very liberating to hear somebody you respect, that you
- 45:08Speaker 2: think is awesome and dope say that they walked away
- 45:11Speaker 2: one time with their tail between their legs and they
- 45:13Speaker 2: wish they would have spoken up for themselves. And it
- 45:16Speaker 2: just became something that I wanted to do that Lee
- 45:19Speaker 2: and I are my manager, had this conversation about talking
- 45:23Speaker 2: about the importance of words and what that meant.
- 45:26Speaker 1: So that's how you came, I was going to say,
- 45:27Speaker 1: because say what you mean it's such a unique name,
- 45:30Speaker 1: but also like, but now I get how it came.
- 45:34Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just all the things you wish you would
- 45:36Speaker 2: have said that you didn't. And then there's a segment
- 45:39Speaker 2: whereas that moment where you said something that you should
- 45:41Speaker 2: have kept. Yeah, And how we use words, how we
- 45:44Speaker 2: weaponize them, how they empower us, and sometimes how they
- 45:47Speaker 2: strip us of everything. And yeah, we just thirty minutes
- 45:50Speaker 2: and it's everybody sits on the hot seat, and it's
- 45:53Speaker 2: interesting to hear some of the things that people wish
- 45:56Speaker 2: they would have said.
- 45:57Speaker 1: Wow, I need to go back and listen to some throwbacks.
- 46:00Speaker 1: And you've been doing this is season five, Season four four, okay,
- 46:04Speaker 1: season four guys, and you could tune in anywhere you
- 46:07Speaker 1: get podcasts, everywhere you get podcasts, and you're doing it
- 46:09Speaker 1: independently now, yeah, which is one hundred percent yours.
- 46:13Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's on YouTube. You can see it. And
- 46:16Speaker 2: this season is interesting. We had a little real do
- 46:18Speaker 2: this season and Clint Coley and it's just very interesting
- 46:24Speaker 2: to see these people because sometimes they turn into little
- 46:26Speaker 2: kids and they're like this, when I was eleven, somebody
- 46:29Speaker 2: said something to me and I wish I would have
- 46:30Speaker 2: said something, or I dated this person, or I was
- 46:34Speaker 2: married to this person, or this producer made me feel
- 46:36Speaker 2: this way, or this manager. And it's just really interesting
- 46:39Speaker 2: because it's like people that you see and you're like, oh,
- 46:42Speaker 2: they're that's a badass. Yeah, no way, and then you're like, oh,
- 46:46Speaker 2: they're just a person.
- 46:47Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that because then, like I said earlier,
- 46:50Speaker 1: I feel like once people know your real story, they
- 46:52Speaker 1: for me at least, it's like you can build that
- 46:55Speaker 1: connection of love. I don't want to use that word
- 46:57Speaker 1: love a lot. It's like you feel like you love
- 46:59Speaker 1: the person more because you broke that barrier of like vulnerability.
- 47:03Speaker 1: Now I know you. Yeah, where else can everyone keep
- 47:07Speaker 1: up with you? Because I know you have stuff work.
- 47:08Speaker 1: Are you working on with something with Hulu?
- 47:10Speaker 2: Right? No, no, Hulu. I'm working on a new special,
- 47:13Speaker 2: but we don't know where it's going to go, and
- 47:16Speaker 2: it is we'll probably shoot it in the fall. But
- 47:19Speaker 2: I have a movie coming out called Hurricane Seasons at
- 47:22Speaker 2: the end of the year.
- 47:24Speaker 1: And you're acting in it touring.
- 47:26Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not the lead of the film. It's my
- 47:28Speaker 2: first leading role, which was nerve wrecking because I'm in
- 47:31Speaker 2: there with some really bigger names and more established actors
- 47:34Speaker 2: that have a very strong body of work. So it
- 47:37Speaker 2: was really a good lesson, good place to learn.
- 47:39Speaker 1: But how was it with adhd at dedication?
- 47:44Speaker 2: The medication helps, But as long as I have format
- 47:47Speaker 2: and structure, I'm okay, okay, And so I knew my
- 47:50Speaker 2: pages and I knew I have a an acting coach,
- 47:53Speaker 2: so I have a lot of support that I worked
- 47:55Speaker 2: with for it because it can be really hard. But
- 47:58Speaker 2: a lot of entertainers have ADH they're just kind of diagnosed.
- 48:01Speaker 1: Okay, okay, didn't want to get in there with that,
- 48:06Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So Hurricane Seasons.
- 48:11Speaker 2: Hurricane Seasons is coming out in the fall. Just keep
- 48:13Speaker 2: looking for it. We'll keep posting about it on our
- 48:15Speaker 2: social media. Say what you mean is happening right now?
- 48:19Speaker 2: I'm currently on tour, so I am when does this
- 48:23Speaker 2: come out?
- 48:23Speaker 1: And then we have Netflix as a joke. We don't
- 48:25Speaker 1: know yet. It's probably not gonna come out to Jim
- 48:27Speaker 1: though after June.
- 48:28Speaker 2: After June, so then yeah, go to funny aid A
- 48:31Speaker 2: dot com and check my schedule because I will be
- 48:34Speaker 2: I have a show in Modesta in September. I'm doing
- 48:36Speaker 2: I'm still on tour, but I am getting ready to
- 48:39Speaker 2: tape a special and I'm writing on a second book.
- 48:42Speaker 1: Okay, and then not trying to backtrack. And I know
- 48:45Speaker 1: we probably cut it close on time. You got married
- 48:48Speaker 1: and had children while all pursuing your dreams.
- 48:52Speaker 2: I got I started pursuing my dreams after I got divorced,
- 48:55Speaker 2: but with my two children, I was a single mom. Yeah,
- 48:59Speaker 2: how do we get that.
- 49:01Speaker 1: That wasn't part of that That that's a huge part
- 49:03Speaker 1: of the journey.
- 49:03Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, it was so much a part of
- 49:06Speaker 2: my Every interview that I did for a long time
- 49:08Speaker 2: is kind of refreshing when people just ask me about me.
- 49:11Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm a single mom and I did it
- 49:13Speaker 2: with my kids, and my kids were never the sacrifice.
- 49:17Speaker 2: So that's why a lot of things didn't start happening
- 49:19Speaker 2: for me in comedy until I got a little bit older,
- 49:22Speaker 2: because I was there for everything and I would not
- 49:26Speaker 2: I felt like if I honored my kids, then the
- 49:28Speaker 2: most high would honor me, And that's what happened.
- 49:31Speaker 1: So you did it after during I.
- 49:33Speaker 2: Got divorced and I moved here. When I got married
- 49:35Speaker 2: young and divorced young, and I left.
- 49:38Speaker 1: And I moved to California with my kids, so you
- 49:41Speaker 1: got to show your kids what are pursuing your dreams?
- 49:43Speaker 1: Was without I guess the word would be like sacrificing them,
- 49:46Speaker 1: because I like that and I don't think a lot
- 49:48Speaker 1: of people talk about that enough, especially nowadays, because I
- 49:51Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot more single parents, single moms,
- 49:54Speaker 1: and the question is is do you sacrifice your life
- 49:57Speaker 1: or can you do both? And what does that look like?
- 50:00Speaker 2: What suffered was my personal life, my romantic life, because
- 50:05Speaker 2: anyway I didn't want I wasn't going to live with
- 50:07Speaker 2: somebody with kids. Of course, want a man in my house.
- 50:11Speaker 2: I also didn't want children from another man because I
- 50:14Speaker 2: had so much trauma from my childhood that I didn't
- 50:16Speaker 2: want my kids to have a step parent. And I
- 50:19Speaker 2: don't know if if my love life suffered, I just
- 50:21Speaker 2: I think I just put it on hold. But they
- 50:24Speaker 2: were always the priority, even above the entertainment business, above work,
- 50:28Speaker 2: and I know that wasn't the case for a lot
- 50:30Speaker 2: of people. And I don't have no judgments against any
- 50:33Speaker 2: mothers because everybody has to do what they have to do.
- 50:35Speaker 2: But for me, I wasn't going to be able to
- 50:37Speaker 2: sit with It wouldn't sit well with me to be
- 50:40Speaker 2: parading around Hollywood and being a starlit and my kids
- 50:44Speaker 2: in the hands of other people suffering and struggling or
- 50:47Speaker 2: whatever it was. And that was my perception of it
- 50:50Speaker 2: based on my own trauma. So I wrote it out
- 50:52Speaker 2: with them and then I started doing what I wanted
- 50:55Speaker 2: to do. And yeah, it was great to have my
- 50:57Speaker 2: kids in the audience when I did Last Comics. They
- 51:01Speaker 2: were sitting there watching me do something that was larger
- 51:04Speaker 2: than life. That you made it to the top ten.
- 51:06Speaker 2: They were sitting there and it was really great.
- 51:09Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. Now, do you have a whole level
- 51:12Speaker 1: of not saying you'd ever battle this, but some people do.
- 51:16Speaker 1: Do you have a whole new layer of respect and
- 51:19Speaker 1: self worth just knowing that not only did you do it,
- 51:21Speaker 1: but you did it as a mom and you did
- 51:23Speaker 1: it while basically you did all the checkboxes, you did
- 51:27Speaker 1: it responsibly, and you thrived. You didn't survive, but you thrive.
- 51:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel good about that. And listen, I made
- 51:33Speaker 2: mistakes because mothers are always held to a higher standard
- 51:36Speaker 2: than everybody on the planet. But I think that, Yeah,
- 51:40Speaker 2: I think it feels good to know that they were
- 51:43Speaker 2: not the sacrifice, because I don't know that I could
- 51:45Speaker 2: be with good conscience moving forward knowing that my babies
- 51:48Speaker 2: would be the ones that suffered because I wanted to
- 51:51Speaker 2: be a star.
- 51:51Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 51:52Speaker 2: I think it's the greatest thing I've ever done by far.
- 51:54Speaker 2: Everything else pale and pales in comparison. The biggest thing
- 51:59Speaker 2: that I've ever done in life. It is my son
- 52:00Speaker 2: and my daughter and I have I raised my two
- 52:03Speaker 2: best friends and that's the best thing. And everything else
- 52:06Speaker 2: is just icing on the cake.
- 52:07Speaker 1: I love that for you.
- 52:08Speaker 2: Itdam Thank you.
- 52:09Speaker 1: Everyone. Tune in everywhere to check out everything Ida, from
- 52:13Speaker 1: podcasts to specials to touring in person, and keep up
- 52:18Speaker 1: with Ida on Ida Comedy. It was Ayida dot com,
- 52:22Speaker 1: Funnyeida dot com and you can check her out on
- 52:24Speaker 1: Instagram and social is funny Ida.
- 52:26Speaker 2: Yes, and if you make the pizza, I would like
- 52:28Speaker 2: to know your variations because I'm still making these pizzas
- 52:32Speaker 2: at home.
- 52:32Speaker 1: You still make them?
- 52:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I love making the pason making is fun for us.
- 52:36Speaker 2: I told you. We do the pewa bread, We do
- 52:39Speaker 2: the turkey pepperoni because I don't eat pork. Okay, we
- 52:41Speaker 2: do put vegetables it's a fun activity.
- 52:44Speaker 1: I want to see the pea bread one.
- 52:46Speaker 2: It's really good. It's fun to do it with your kid.
- 52:48Speaker 1: How long do you have to bake? By the way,
- 52:50Speaker 1: we didn't cover that, how long do you bake? If
- 52:52Speaker 1: you do the pea bread at home, the.
- 52:53Speaker 2: Pea bread needs to cook a little bit longer. But
- 52:56Speaker 2: so I would do three fifty for maybe about fifteen
- 52:59Speaker 2: twenty minutes watching it. Yeah, and it's really fun too.
- 53:03Speaker 2: It's a fun activity, not very expensive, especially if you
- 53:07Speaker 2: have kids over five or six kids. The pizza making
- 53:11Speaker 2: activity with the kids is really fun. You just put
- 53:14Speaker 2: it's like making.
- 53:15Speaker 1: You put all the little ingredients and maybe they'll actually
- 53:18Speaker 1: eat it. Because I have a picky eater at home.
- 53:19Speaker 1: She don't eat nothing.
- 53:20Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
- 53:21Speaker 1: I tell people all the time. They're like, what does
- 53:22Speaker 1: she I'm like, air, I don't know how she's still
- 53:24Speaker 1: breathing with me.
- 53:26Speaker 2: I don't like to activities.
- 53:28Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll do it all right, guys. Thank
- 53:31Speaker 1: you so much for tuning in. Peace Out