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Iowa clubbed at Michigan State, NFL Week 14 thoughts, Rob Dauster on College Hoops & Mitch Holthus talks Chiefs · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, good afternoon. Welcome, Miller and Condon on a
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Wednesday. The Iowa Sports Radio Network,
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Trent Condon and Ken Miller talking sports with you over the
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next couple of hours. Thank you for starting your
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afternoon with us. We'll take you until 2:00 off
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the bench. At that time, Sean and Lucas 2
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until 5. Overtime, Iowa, 5 until 6.
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Here's what's coming up on our program in 25 minutes.
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We'll catch up with her buddy Rob Doster.
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Field of 68. He covers college basketball.
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Field of 68. Him and Jeff Goodman launched
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that website. Oh, few years back now, probably
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better than five years now. It just had been a rocket ship.
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Happy for Doster and his group over there Is he?
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We've shown the doors, many of them are in the media world
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thinking on his feet, trying to figure out what he was going to
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do and put a roof over his head field.
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His family in field of 68 is doing that and more.
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So good for him. And he'll join us on college
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hoops here at 12:25. Then Mitch Holtis, the voice of
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the Kansas City Chiefs. He's up next.
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We'll talk to Chiefs. We'll talk Chiefs rather with
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Mitch. Go back to last week and look
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ahead. The Sunday Night Football how
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about this one Houston and Kansas City classic coming up
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here, Matt, potentially a classic coming up on Sunday
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night 720 NBC for that one or if you were in your car driving
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around or whatever you can hear the game right here courtesy of
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Westwood 1. So that's the first hour of the
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program. Hour number two David Kaplan
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kicks it off lots of topics to get to with cap, including the
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marquee network and their hemorrhaging of money as they
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laid off a bunch of people yesterday.
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What does that mean for the Cubs?
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We'll talk bears with cap and actually the Cubs on the field
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will do that to kick off our two and then former Hawkeye men's
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basketball player Wade looking Bill who joins Us Weekly once we
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get into January and don't look now that's not far away.
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Look, Wade will recap last night and take a look ahead to
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Maryland. Trent will make some pics before
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we get out of here and away we go.
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How are you? Not too shabby.
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How about yourself? OK, doing fine.
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Fun night last night. It's not a fun night.
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Party fan over there, huh? Yeah.
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No, the Hawks got bludgeoned, but College Football Playoff
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show was, you know, entertaining, if nothing else.
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And watch some some ACCSCC challenge college hoops.
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There's so much it's so fun. It really and truly is some
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really good games last night. And look, let let's start with
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Iowa as the water got significantly deeper last night,
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as we know, as we anticipated. And and I think that's going to
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be the goal of most teams. If you can take Stirts away or
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certainly limit him, you're going to win most times you're
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going to win the basketball game in Michigan State, who look,
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this is a really good team. They did bludgeon Kentucky.
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They beat North Carolina last week.
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Those are two tournament teams to certainly second weekend
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teams. And Michigan State had their way
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with them, and they had their way with Iowa last night.
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For the first time in 12 years, a 19 or more point loss. 4
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George McCullum, is that right? Go back to 2013, the last time
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they lost by 20 points or more. Yeah.
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So this was something that does not happen very often.
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No, I'll say. For his squads throughout the
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years, I think you bring up a very salient point.
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Michigan State's really good. They're really good, Trent, yes.
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And they did it without a guy you know, I like in Cam Ward as
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he was out of the game speaking. That's availability report came
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out. It's not as big as it is
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obviously for football. But when did?
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When did it come out? Because I didn't see it.
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Not that I was looking. For it, I, I don't know, I saw
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it right before tip, but Trey Thompson, the freshman that
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enrolled early or go his senior year of high school, he was
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listed as out for the game. Yeah, just file that one.
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Yeah, that is a. But Michigan State really good.
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That's where I saw Kim Ward was questionable I think was the
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designation that they had at that point for him.
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But they don't have a whole lot of offensive punch.
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There's just not a whole lot there outside of Sturtz.
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And when that happens and you got 2 tremendous guards when
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you're in the Breslin Center and you know the way the whistle's
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going to go, if you don't have a Plan B, it's incredibly
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difficult to win in that building.
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There's been really good teams going there in the past.
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I don't know what this means for Iowa going forward.
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McCollum spinning this in a positive fashion that they
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needed this. Now they can measure what where,
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where we need to get better. Look, it's it's it's the Big 10.
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And you got a real good taste of it last night with the Big 10
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team, an upper echelon Big 10 team.
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And by the way, how good is college basketball going to be
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in the state of Michigan this year?
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Those two teams, that's appointment TV.
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That is appointment TV when Michigan and Michigan State
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play. They of course, we'll see Purdue
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coming up this weekend as Iowa State will go in there.
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Number 10 versus #1 that's, I mean, that's going to be a
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classic. I think that's a rock fight type
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of game. But for last night, it was like
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it started out well. Yeah, it started out well for
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Iowa, but not for very long. No, it's you're up 7 to 3 and he
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had looks too. And that was the part that maybe
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is more frustrating is all right.
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Got off to a good start. Stirts had another good one,
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could knock it down. Cooper Koch on a pick and Pop
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had a good look, could knock it down.
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And there were so many of the though overall it was just a
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struggle to get anything going offensively.
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I mean, how many times did they not even get the ball inside the
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three-point? Like especially in the first
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half? I mean, they just couldn't get
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penetration to get past those defenders.
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And with that, doesn't matter what style of offense you're
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playing, it's going to be bad when you don't shoot it well
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from the outside. And you have to do that against
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Michigan State coupled with what happened on the boards, and this
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was our biggest concern coming into the year.
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How were they going to be able to play?
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Now there's not many teams that have Kohler and Cooper and then
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McCullough, that that dude coming off the bench.
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There's not many teams that are built like that.
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Still, the Big 10 is a physical league.
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There's going to be big guys. And when that happens, we saw
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what they end up getting beat on the boards. 37 to 11 does that
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sound right, 3718? 3718, yeah, yeah, unless you're
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shooting 55% from three, probably not going to win.
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In fact, how about this? They had Michigan State more
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offensive rebounds. Than Iowa had rebounds in total.
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Defensive rebounds. Iowa had six offensive rebounds
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and 18 in total. But they had Iowa had 12
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defensive rebounds. Michigan State had 13 offensive
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rebounds. Wow.
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Yeah. Long night thankfully Peacock
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was going in enough to be the final six or seven minutes of
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that game. So it was just it was it was
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tough watch. It was had high hopes going into
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it didn't think that they were going to win was surprised the
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point spread was reacting to the to the bets coming in the way
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that it was the number was going down.
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What did it actually tip at? Do you know?
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Did it did it climb back up in the day?
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Because it did fall into 4 1/2 when we were signing off
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yesterday. Let's see if I can find what the
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closing line. Five and a half six I would
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assume. But if you bet Michigan State, I
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mean talk about a no sweat bet. Closed at 4 1/2.
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It did close at 4 1/2. Yeah, I'm surprised by that.
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Maybe they're slow to react to this this party team who's
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really good. They're a really good basketball
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team. Well, they'll get I will we'll
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get Maryland on coming up on Saturday.
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Be listening for your chance to win tickets to see that game.
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We've also got tickets to see Bucknell and Iowa.
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That's coming up a week for two weeks from Saturday down at the
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I was almost going to call it. It's not it's the Casey, it's
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the Casey Center. It's the Casey Center.
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The slice. I had a slice on Sunday.
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Did you? We're at Disney on Ice.
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Yeah, with the kids, as we do every Thanksgiving weekend.
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And going around and what does my daughter want?
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A slice. She wants a slice of Casey's
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pizza. And that's what she got.
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So we they. Weren't in there before they got
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the naming right? No, Correct.
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No. And there's a little key.
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I mean, it looks like a mini convenience store does it?
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Yeah. What are the little kiosk?
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You just go in there and then you grab your slice and pill you
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with your credit card and. Huh.
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Yeah, it's pretty slick. They got some chips and things
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like that too in there. OK.
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Did did we see that when we were down filming those things for
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the Iowa Wild? Was that it?
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Would have been around the corner.
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Was it OK? Yeah, 'cause I was going to say
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we walked around a little bit but didn't notice it.
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What about Hostin last night? What do you make of this?
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Does he need to play more? I think so.
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He's. He's enough, he's a scorer and
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you need scores. I I think so.
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And on top of it, I thought he played at minimum adequately
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defensively. Didn't get double digit minutes.
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He didn't play in the second. Half.
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I was surprised by that. He had two good looks, too.
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He needs to make those late in that half.
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Yeah. And when he's out there he has
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to make and they were two open shots, one a little bit more
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difficult, but at minimum got to hit one of those two and he hit
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a three pointer and he got to the line and he's actually one
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of the guys in the first half that can make 3 throws.
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What was going on there? One O 4 start at the free throw
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line for Bennett Sturtz. He was out of the sorts and this
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is what he's going to get now game in a game out.
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This is what it's going to be in the big 10.
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I mean you go through and you just look at the point guards in
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this league and who he's going to start with.
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Obviously Braden Smith, right. We we know about him, but you
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look at U UCLA, Donovan Dent that's at minimum top five point
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guard in college basketball and you go through all these
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different guys that you're going to see every single time.
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Saturday might be the only break that that you get what?
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He talked. About and they'll send two guys,
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Adam too. I mean, they're going to do that
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night after night and in this conference.
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But Buzz Williams is not a dumb coach.
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No, he's going to have a game plan and but.
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Then I like they catch a bit of a break because the schedule
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saw, oh wait a second, no it doesn't.
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Here comes Cyhawk next week and have fun with that group of
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cyclones. By the way that.
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Game the projected point spread at Ken Palm, as we said it was
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been, you know, about 6 points has kind of been where it's been
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hovering throughout the course. What is it now?
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Up to 10 is it after last night's performance?
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Iowa State laying. It'll be somewhere around 10
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once these teams take the court a week from tomorrow night.
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Women play Wednesday. Yes, I believe so.
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Yep. And then the men come back and
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on Thursday, both of those games going to be fun to watch.
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Obviously, they moved the needle in our state with without a
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doubt. All right, College Football
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Playoff from last night. I'm not sure.
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I'm guessing you didn't see much of the show.
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I taped it and then went back and caught up with that.
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I did know what in advance. You know what had happened just
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because it can't stay off Twitter And and you know, the
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reactions were fast and furious on Twitter.
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Any takeaways from you? Does it does it seem like if
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you're holding a Notre Dame futures ticket or you're a fan
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of the Fighting Irish, you're a little skirmish here today
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whether they're going to get a spot or not?
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I think so. I mean, I think it's going to
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take a BYU upset for that to happen, but it's a possibility.
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That's a rematch. Tech bludgeoned them the first
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time, but BYUI don't know how they do.
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It feels like smoke and mirrors and magic underwear and whatever
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else that they're using out there.
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But they find a way, don't they? Year after year after year, to
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continue to pile it up. If that happens, if BYU pulls
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the upset, I think they're in trouble because you couple it
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with Notre Dame. They fell a spot.
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Alabama jumps in front of them. Yep, based on the the way they
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ran the football in the Iron Bowl, that was what they said.
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What's the commissioner's name? Your mark, whatever the whatever
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the guy. No, it's not.
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It's I don't know, it's the Arkansas AD.
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Whatever his name is starts with AY, he said when he was asked
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about, you know, what was the reason behind it.
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Well, they ran the ball really well in the Iron Bowl.
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Are you finally coming around to how dumb this thing is week
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after week after week? Or they box themselves in
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corners and it's not good for the sport.
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And that's what they said they they it was a market correction
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that they jumped. Alabama noted that that they
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flip-flopped those two going into last night.
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If you want to do something like college basketball does month
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before, this is what it looks like right now.
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It's snapshot, but this weekly. With the top 4 seeds you mean,
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yes? I mean, you can put a bracket
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out, put out a top 25, do that once, but week after week after
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week, you talk to yourself insert and it happens every
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year. This is not just the this year
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thing. And that's why I hate this TV
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show and I hate what it turns into because all it is is a
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money maker for ESPN their their contract.
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This is something that they demanded that they wanted, but
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it's not good for the betterment of the sport.
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This if we are supposed to love this sport, this is not a good
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thing for it and. We're talking about it though.
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We talk about it regardless. Yeah, but this, this, this
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creates buzz across the country. And I don't know, maybe they
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they subscribe to the only bad publicity is your obituary.
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I don't know, but we're talking about.
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So if BYU does get beat, obviously they fall out.
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Yeah, let's say Virginia beats Duke.
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OK, They would get the 11. Yes, the 12 would go to.
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The American. The American Conference So what
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happens if that would elevate Miami?
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211 leave Notre Dame at 10, correct?
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Yes. What happens there?
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Notre Dame? Neither one of them is playing
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this week. Notre Dame's in because they
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have said. No, last night, he said.
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That doesn't necessarily mean that we can't change teams.
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So now they're going to re evaluate.
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They've been sitting around for five flipping weeks and now
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they're going to actually evaluate the two.
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Teams last night, now that they're closer and they've been,
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they've been kind of tricking this thing to get to this point.
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I, if you're a Notre Dame fan here today, I don't think you
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feel very good about your team's chances because my, if BYU gets
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beaten, I believe they will. I believe they will.
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Miami's going to be 11. Notre Dame is 10 and then that
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head to head, it's got blinking lights around it. 10 and 11 are
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in the spotlight. Blink, blink, blink, blink,
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blink. What do you're going to do?
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Well, if only there was a way we could separate these teams.
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Wait a minute. They played earlier in the
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season and the team that won the game is actually Miami.
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So I don't know if that's going to be what happens, but I think
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the committee, I think that they're setting, setting it up
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for that to happen if it all goes according to planning,
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seldom doesn't go according to plan.
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But we do know that Vanderbilt in Texas and Utah, those teams
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have been eliminated. I was found their way back into
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the rankings. There are 23 currently.
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But fascinating to see what's unfold now.
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It starts on Sunday morning at 11 at 11:00 in the morning and
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it's a 3 hour show. Oh yeah, but don't we get the
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playoff rankings before the NFL kicks?
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Yeah, they go quick and. Then they do the rest of the
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Bulls. Because when this first started,
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remember that long drawn out process?
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How long that it took? Did it?
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Did it trickle into the NFL? Game.
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Oh, absolutely. It was like up until the end of
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the show, like at 2:00 that it that it finally wrapped up
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because I remember we were on our way back for the Big 10
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championship game back in 2015. The likelihood was that Iowa, of
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course, was going to go to the Rose Bowl.
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Remember, Ohio State was also really good that year.
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I think they were 11 and 1 and it was between the Buckeyes and
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I were maybe they're 1:50 regardless, but there was a
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conversation. What do you do?
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12 and one Iowa, or I think it was 11 and 1 Ohio State, who was
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going to get that? And we were, we were deep into
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Illinois before we found out exactly where I was going
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because we're trying to kind of plan, hey, if it is the Rose
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Bowl, what are we going to do? All those different things.
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And it took a long time for that to come out.
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They have fixed that and we will know very quickly what the
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brackets going to look like and then we'll.
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Get to the Bulls and then we'll get all the talking heads,
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etcetera. All right, let's let's get Doug
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in here. We're going to get to Rob
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Doster. He covers college basketball.
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He's coming up in 10 minutes. I do want to talk a little bit
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about the NFL for for at least a, for at least a second.
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Hey, Doug, how are you? Yeah, I love the show, guys.
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Hey, I was just going to say that I, I agree with Trent that
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this, this college football is a pick how they do it.
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It's it's a joke. It's just, I just, I can't watch
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it. It's just, I don't, I mean, I
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love college football too. I just, I just think it's all
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name brands, how they how they pick them, But I don't know.
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I I just, I just think it's all politics and stuff.
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But that's just what my own idea about it.
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I'll hang up and listen. Thank you I.
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Appreciate the call process and we go into every year, what's
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the criteria? Changes straight the.
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Record week to week What is straight the record?
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You watch the show every week? You should.
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Own it's record. That's what it is.
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Your record against the opponents against who they beat.
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What's that other made-up metric that the?
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Pi or whatever it is, I knew it one time.
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I can't think of it. The college football power.
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Yeah, something like that. That they're made-up metrics, we
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don't know. Probably trademarked by ESPN.
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Oh, yeah, absolutely. They, they have a lot of blood
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on their hands. The way a lot of things are
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going here. For a long time when I heard
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people and I just kind of rolled my eyes last weekend, that was
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the tipping point for me. And seeing those morons up
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there. Champion for Lane Kiffin, yeah,
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that was enough. That was my tipping point.
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And it's. Sturdy as hell because they're
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all represented by Sexton, All of them, you know, and this guy
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sadly controls college football. Here's what we're going to get.
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Locally, we kind of speculated that what was going to happen
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regarding the NFL and the games we would be force fed this week.
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And to the surprise of certainly not you and I, KCCI is going to
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give us Washington and Minnesota in the early window.
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So the other opportunity that they could have, this is a great
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game, I believe. I think so.
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I think it's important, yeah. Incredibly compelling.
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And we're going to be stuck with that.
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We don't get we don't get Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow.
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Nope. Most of the country does though.
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Trent Yeah, most of the country does.
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Unless you're a bachelor. Joe Davis and Greg Olson going
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to be this week. Instead we get Adam Amin and
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Drew Bree. Oh, boy, with the commies and
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the Vikings that that can change.
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Still, they can make the right call because if you look at
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these maps over at five O 6 Sports late in the week, usually
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on Friday, you'll see the station flipped.
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The station flipped. Let's get it right.
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And not just our Fox affiliate. Fox affiliate in eastern Iowa,
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possibly in western Iowa. So there is a little pocket
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though in in the state of Iowa. The Quad Cities got it right.
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Did they? The Quad Cities got it right.
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They have the correct game there.
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Let's see if everybody can follow the lead of our fine
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friends over in the Quad Cities and give us the right game.
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I'm sorry, Viking fans. Nobody wants.
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No, nobody does. Nobody does.
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My wife's a Vikings fan. No, she doesn't want to watch
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it. It's it's just unfortunate the
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the rest of the thing they got right as we anticipated they
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would. We'll see where it goes.
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But so you think there's still an outside chance this could
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happen? It had.
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It happens from time to time. They think they'll pick up the
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phone in politic. I don't.
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Do you pick up the phone anymore?
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It's. Probably an e-mail Zoom, maybe
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It might be a zoom. And we also got a little split.
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How about the Council Bluffs Omaha area?
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What are they getting? They're getting 2 late games,
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including your Broncos against the Raiders.
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Really. Why?
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I don't know, I guess is that considered Denver territory?
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The countries Denver territory. Relax.
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Relax. Those Denver Broncos and Bonex.
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And we'll get the AFC North affair with Nancy Romo with the
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Steelers and the Ravens. You know, if nothing else, isn't
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it just where's the A-Team going to be?
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Making very simple. Yeah, just.
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Just follow the lead. Yeah.
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Where's, where are the networks sending their A-Team?
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You go there, you most get most times that's the right game to
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get to. All right.
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And by the way, as we spent, not just us, the, the, you know,
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most people believed if you follow these type of things that
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the Thanksgiving TV games were going to set records.
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I mean, absolutely off the charts, even the early game, 47
19:40
million people watched and it was a good game, don't get me
19:44
wrong. But the but the afternoon
19:45
window, the three 25330 kickoff always rules the roost and 57
19:51
million people, that was the average that watch the Chiefs
19:55
call to the Dallas Cowboys. Mitch Holt is coming up.
19:58
Rob Doster next. Miller and Condon underway on a
20:00
Wednesday. Glad you're with us on the Iowa
20:02
Sports Radio Network. I'm Miller and Condon.
20:05
Welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Mitch Holt's voice of the Kansas City Chiefs coming up on about
20:10
20 minutes or so. Let's get to our friend Rob
20:13
Doster field of 68 ACCSEC challenge at the event out in
20:18
Las Vegas last weekend. That opened some eyes as well.
20:21
And Rob Doster joins us. Rob Trenton, Ken, How are you?
20:25
Yeah. What's going on, guys?
20:27
It's, it's been a while. So I said Iowa basketball is
20:30
good enough that you actually want to get me back on the radio
20:32
again. I'm I'm excited about.
20:33
This. No, we're glad to have you
20:35
didn't. Look like it last night though.
20:36
Yeah, that was that was the water got a little bit deeper
20:39
last night. And of course they're playing
20:40
pretty good ball in Ames and we'll see Ames in our Iowa State
20:43
and Purdue rather coming up this Saturday, Saturday morning,
20:47
11:00 Central, which got a chance to be a really good
20:49
basketball game. So let's kind of bounce around,
20:52
Rob, if you don't mind from what you've seen so far, obviously,
20:55
obviously maybe my biggest take away so far is just Michigan and
20:59
what they were able to do in Las Vegas against what the the teams
21:02
that they were able to do it to. That was eye opening to me, Rob.
21:07
I mean, one night Trent and I come in the next day, boy, this
21:09
Zach's team looks really good. And then they get beat by
21:12
whatever was 3040 by Michigan. Where are you on Michigan?
21:16
Is this a team that is not caught you off guard but maybe
21:20
better than you thought? They're definitely better than I
21:24
thought when they are making their threes.
21:26
And I think if you kind of look at it, the the numbers
21:29
breakdown, right, the two games that they struggled with high
21:32
major opponents, they shot, I think it was 21% from beyond the
21:36
arc. And then in the three games in
21:37
Las Vegas, when they looked like they would be able to go out and
21:40
win the Eastern Conference in the NBA, they shot somewhere in
21:43
the neighborhood of 42% from three.
21:45
And when you can defend the way that they can defend, when you
21:49
have the size that they have, if you're also able to knock down
21:52
threes at that rate, I just don't know if that is something
21:58
that is going to be guardable right now.
22:01
I don't know if it's also sustainable for Michigan to be
22:03
able to keep shooting that way. They don't have Elliot Kiddo,
22:09
yes, Linda Borg. Some of those guys are not known
22:11
as being great shooters, have not been great shooters
22:14
throughout their career. But if it continues at the rate
22:16
that it was in Las Vegas, like they're one of the national
22:18
championship guys, we could probably pack this thing up and
22:20
head home. I'm not convinced that that's
22:22
going to end up happening. But you know what the, the, the
22:25
way that they guard, right? What's so tough about them is
22:30
both Marez Johnson and Yaxel are able to guard literally like you
22:34
hear this a lot like, oh, you can guard one through 5.
22:36
Well, those guys can literally guard one through 5 because they
22:39
can move their feet well enough on the perimeter.
22:41
They're both 6 foot 9/6/10 2:40. So that's what makes them so
22:46
dangerous is they can switch everything and they're not going
22:49
to get caught in bad matchups because oh by the way, they
22:51
happen to have a 7 foot 3 monster and a Damara at the rim.
22:55
So Speaking of Vegas, there was a lot of firestorm happening and
22:59
certainly here in our state as Iowa State goes to and O doesn't
23:02
get in the championship event, doesn't even get in the 3rd
23:05
place event. They didn't get the opportunity
23:07
to win additional NIL compensation, which was the big
23:10
selling point of this thing. Now they're going to 32 teams
23:13
next year and yet the organizers are not going to try to keep
23:16
this thing simple. It sounds like they still have
23:18
this idea of the the Four Kings. Bring them back a week later it
23:22
feels like. Rob, you need to get some
23:24
basketball guys involved here. Can't we just have 4 brackets
23:27
and make this thing simple? Why are they struggling with one
23:31
of the simplest things? Why do we love March Madness?
23:32
Because the bracket Just do brackets.
23:35
Yeah, I think that's what they're going to end up doing.
23:37
It sounds like they kind of softened on their stance.
23:40
They're smart enough where they saw the pushback where everyone
23:43
was like, this is this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in
23:45
my life. I think we just have brackets
23:47
and they're like, yeah, you know what?
23:48
Maybe if that's what people want, let's do it.
23:50
So I think that they're probably going to end up going that
23:52
direction at the end of the day. But I will say, like Iowa State
23:59
still was able to get out there and get a hefty chunk of money
24:02
for, for their like their appearance in Las Vegas.
24:06
And yes, they probably stink that you you go three and oh,
24:08
you have an opportunity to win another $1,000,000.
24:10
But I wonder where. So my biggest question is with
24:15
the players era is how long is this going to be sustainable if
24:18
you're operating at a loss, right?
24:21
So they they're going to 32 teams next year.
24:24
I know some of the blue bloods are are going to command more
24:27
than the $1,000,000 that's been kind of paraded around with the
24:31
money that so some of the bigger names are.
24:35
Because think about it like this, right?
24:37
If Duke is going to play in Madison Square Garden or UConn
24:40
is going to play a game somewhere on a neutral court,
24:43
like they're getting a check for that.
24:45
And the biggest brands are able to get checks that are like
24:49
somewhere in the neighborhood of five hundred 750,000, some
24:52
sometimes even $1,000,000 from these facilities, right?
24:55
Think about all the tickets that UConn sells when they go to
24:58
Madison Square Garden and the amount of money that each one of
25:02
those like the the the venue was able to make when you can sell
25:07
all those tickets. So they get a check for showing
25:09
up at these events and if you're giving up five non conference
25:13
games, you're giving up a lot of money if you're Duke or Yukon or
25:17
Carolina or some of these other blue bloods.
25:18
So $1,000,000 for five games is not going to be enough to get
25:22
what they need to be able to get.
25:23
So if you are running the players era and you need to go
25:26
get those big teams and you're going to be operating at a
25:29
deficit, which I'm assuming that I think Matt and Orlando
25:32
reported, it's going to be something in the neighborhood of
25:34
$50 million that they're going to spend in NIL payments next
25:37
season or 32 team bracket. How long does that last?
25:42
You know, I feel like there unless there's certain places
25:47
that are kind of funding this behind the scenes, $50 million
25:50
is not just something that you find underneath the couch
25:52
kitchen. So that's going to be my biggest
25:55
question with the players errors.
25:56
Where's the money coming from? What's the end game with this?
25:59
And at the end of the day, how long is this going to be
26:03
profitable and and how long are you going to able to operate at
26:06
a loss if it's not? You know, fascinating stuff.
26:08
We'll see. I think with TVESPN may get
26:11
involved. Whether they do, I want to.
26:12
I don't. I'm going to run out of time
26:14
before we get because Iowa State fans want to hear from a
26:17
national guy what they think of their team, what you think of
26:19
their team. Obviously they play Purdue this
26:22
week. Torrey's been unbelievable.
26:23
Lipsy. I think he's questionable
26:25
tonight. They're 42 point favorite for
26:27
God's sakes. But regardless of that.
26:30
Don't play, I'm playing. It's not what?
26:33
I totally agree. Jaden is healthy, man.
26:36
This is this is Jameel Lipsy. Like he doesn't need extra Rep
26:39
to be able to figure out what he's got to do to win basketball
26:41
game. He knows that he's got to do to
26:43
win basketball game. Absolutely.
26:44
What do you think of the team? I think they're really damn
26:48
good. You know, I think the key, and
26:52
it was the key last year, the key is just going to be whether
26:54
or not Lipsy is going to be able to stay healthy, right?
26:57
And that's kind of always what it's been through for him
26:59
throughout his career, unfortunately.
27:00
But and if he stays healthy, he's a monster.
27:04
Josh Jefferson might be the most underappreciated player in all
27:07
of college basketball. He's averaging like 18.8 boards
27:10
with five assists. Milan Munchilovich has taken a
27:12
big step forward this year. And what is what I don't think
27:18
enough people are talking about is the impact that Blake
27:21
Buchanan has had coming in. You know, Iowa State, their
27:24
whole thing is when you get to the room, we're not going to try
27:27
to block your shot, but we are going to, you know, they're
27:30
they're great when it comes to verticality.
27:32
They're great when it comes to being able to cut off a drive
27:35
and have somebody at the room that drove straight up puts
27:37
their arms behind their ears and makes you shoot over someone
27:40
that is 6 foot 11 with a an 8 foot 9 standing reach and you
27:46
know, a 35 inch vertical. And that's a tough thing to do.
27:49
And they're so good at that. And Blake Buchanan is coming and
27:51
have been really, really good at kind of anchoring that defence
27:53
in the paint. So Iowa State for me right now,
27:58
I, I think it's the best team in the Big 12 right now.
28:01
Houston is still the favorite because Houston is all they do
28:03
is win their league. And I don't care what it is,
28:06
whatever they they could go over 9 and non conference and I'm
28:09
still saying that Houston is going to be the favorite to win
28:10
that league until it's mathematically impossible for
28:12
them to win that league. But I think in this moment right
28:15
now, Iowa State's the best team in the Big 12.
28:17
Let's. Go to eastern Iowa.
28:18
Iowa bludgeoned last night by Michigan State.
28:20
Is that an indictment on this team?
28:23
Still, how good do you think the Hawkeyes are going to be even
28:26
after last night's performance? I mean, last night wasn't
28:29
promising, but I'm not going to be the guy that says, hey, you
28:31
know what, You went into East Lansing with a Michigan State
28:34
team that's like top ten in America and maybe the most
28:37
physical team in the country in the first game that you are
28:40
playing as a member of the Big 10.
28:41
In the Big 10, the first game your coach is coaching as a
28:44
member of the Big 10 in the Big 10.
28:46
And it takes to be about 10 minutes to figure out how to be
28:49
able to play basketball again. I just I no part of me is
28:54
concerned about what happened with their last Well, a little
28:58
part of me so, but it's not something where it's like, oh,
29:01
wow, you know what? Iowa, they can't play.
29:03
They're not making the tournament this year.
29:04
Just cancel the season. It's all over.
29:06
No, they're they're going to be fine.
29:07
They're probably going to end up in like the 8910 seed range of I
29:10
had to guess they got an all American point guard and Ben
29:12
stores and Ben McConnell wins games.
29:14
I'm not worried about it. Best freshman in college
29:17
basketball is. The young man that hasn't played
29:21
down there in Kansas and Peterson, when he gets back, we
29:25
have a lot of these conversations about who is the
29:27
best freshman in college basketball and copies been
29:31
awesome. Camp Boozer has been awesome,
29:32
Major the bounce has been awesome, Michael Brown has been
29:34
awesome. And then you're going to see
29:36
Darren Peterson when he gets going.
29:37
It's going to change your opinion on it and it's not going
29:40
to be a question anymore. He just, he's a ridiculous shot
29:43
maker, man. You saw Kansas last night, Lucy,
29:46
UConn because they couldn't make shots and they couldn't find a
29:49
way to be able to score when they needed to score.
29:50
That ain't going to happen when he's on the floor because he's
29:53
the kind of guy, he's got some Donovan Mitchell on his game,
29:55
right? But he's 66 instead of 6366 with
29:58
a 7 foot wing spin. He's the kind of guy where like
30:02
you can play great defense on him and it's not going to matter
30:06
because he he just makes shots that you can't guard and he does
30:09
that he he makes that stuff look easy.
30:11
So he's he's going to change the game for Kansas when he gets
30:14
back. He'd be the best team in
30:15
America. We started with Michigan.
30:17
Let's go the other way. Last thing for me, Doster, who's
30:20
the most disappointing team a month into the season for you?
30:24
It's Kentucky for me. You know, I, I, you have a $22
30:30
million payroll that people kind of know about and you're a
30:33
preseason top five team. And I've seen them in three
30:37
games this season just look like they forgot how to do offense.
30:40
And it's not a good sign when you forget how to do offense on
30:43
a college basketball court. They had, I think it was an 11
30:46
minute stretch where they didn't make you feel well last night.
30:49
I just, I think Mark Pope has put together a roster where he
30:53
doesn't know if he wants to be talk defensively or if he wants
30:57
to be an offensive juggernaut or if he wants to find a way to be
31:01
able to shoot. It's just an oddly constructed
31:03
roster and I don't know if the pieces fit.
31:05
They desperately, desperately, desperately need Jaylen Low back
31:08
and I think getting Jaden Quaintance healthy will be a
31:11
significant bump for them as well.
31:13
So it's kind of hard to they have three guys that were
31:16
projected to be starters that aren't playing right now because
31:18
of injury. So it's kind of too hard to
31:21
completely throw them under the bus, but it's it hasn't been
31:25
great down there. Along those lines, last thing,
31:28
Micropoli want his money back for the start St.
31:30
John's has put forward. Look, you know what, he we knew
31:37
this was going to happen. We said all offseason, like I
31:40
don't think St. John's has a point guard.
31:41
You know what, they got a point guard problem and it's not going
31:43
to call offensively. They got to, they don't have
31:45
anyone that can stop the ball at the point of attack.
31:47
So I I don't think he's going to be asking for his money back
31:50
yet. I think Rick Matina was saying
31:52
you need more money because we didn't follow who went to UConn
31:55
and we didn't get Xavion League who went to Florida.
31:57
So I think that's the biggest issue right now.
31:59
Field of 68 Rob Doster, Jeff Goodman every single day.
32:03
If you're a college basketball fan, this is a much watch late
32:06
in the day or anytime a field of 68 Rob, thanks for doing this.
32:09
So we'll talk to you throughout the season.
32:11
Appreciate you coming on with us.
32:14
Appreciate you guys. Good to good to to reconnect.
32:17
You better get me back on now. The Iowa's good at basketball.
32:19
Count on it. Yes, absolutely.
32:21
See you, pal. Good to talk to Rob.
32:22
Thank you there. You guys.
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Kansas City Chiefs joins us every single Wednesday during
32:53
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32:55
Chiefs daily training camp reports he's back with us Sunday
32:59
Night Football in Kansas City this week.
33:02
NBC will be there. It's the Texans and it's the
33:06
Chiefs and Mitch what feels almost like a must win game.
33:10
Are we at that point? Do you think Mitch Holt is good
33:12
to talk to you? Yeah, great to talk to you guys
33:15
and hope your Thanksgiving weekend was good.
33:18
Yeah, I think sometimes it's overused, Ken, and you know what
33:22
I mean. Must win is obviously seventh
33:23
game of the World Series kind of stuff.
33:25
But I think in the landscape of the AFC, it's if it's not a must
33:31
win, it's extremely close. And this is a stat you'll like
33:34
with the Broncos being out at 10 and two and the Chiefs at 6:00
33:37
and 6:00. This is the farthest the Chiefs
33:39
have been out of first in the division since 2015, when the
33:43
Broncos won Super Bowl 50. And the last time some team
33:47
other than the Chiefs won the AFC West, you're down four with
33:50
six to go there or five to go there.
33:52
So that's, you know, looks gone, but you've got to look at the
33:57
playoffs here and the AFC is crowded and you're on the
34:00
outside looking in. So you got to yeah, pretty much.
34:02
And you're playing a really good Texan team.
34:05
That Texans defense has been certainly tremendous.
34:08
They got Stroud back. Now when you look at this match
34:10
up and you know what they're doing defensively, does it feel
34:13
like one of those games where you're going to have to get
34:15
maybe more out of the ground? That he have a different
34:17
portions of the year, that there might be some moments or a
34:19
couple of drives where and we just need to grind this thing
34:21
out against this D. Well, and they're only giving up
34:25
17 points a game. This is a defense and I don't
34:28
want to make Ken Met here, but it's a really close debate of
34:31
who's got the best in the league between the Texans and the
34:35
Broncos. Now, what the Texans have that
34:38
the Broncos are struggling with is like a one spot in the
34:41
secondary whereby, and we know if that gets close to home for
34:44
you guys, but this secondary of the Texans is way underrated.
34:49
You look at these guys, there's nowhere to attack.
34:53
Kamari Lasseter, Jalen Petrie, Kaelyn Bullock, Derek Stingley,
34:57
Junior. He's only given up 23 yards and
34:59
three the last three games. Bullock's the highest rated DB
35:02
in the league in pass Raider against him.
35:06
So yeah, you're going to have to run the ball some, especially to
35:10
try to slow down the pass rushers who are superb.
35:12
Now, that's where I think they're equal to Denver's Nick
35:16
Benito and Jonathan Cooper, where you've got Will Anderson
35:20
Junior and Daniel Hunter. They're just animals.
35:22
They embarrassed the Buffalo Bills, embarrassed two really
35:26
good tackles, including a Pro Bowler and Dion Dockins.
35:28
They can embarrass you, Trent, this Houston Texan defence, if
35:32
you're not careful. No question.
35:34
What about the other side of the ball for Houston?
35:36
How do? What does that look like in your
35:38
opinion? Well, what's the record for Iowa
35:41
Statewide receivers on a single NFL?
35:43
Team. It would be the Houston Texans,
35:46
yeah. I got a feeling there's only 6
35:47
wide receivers in that wide receiver room in Houston and
35:50
three are Iowa State Cyclones. Although Jaden Higgins did spend
35:54
most of his time at Eastern Kentucky before transferring.
35:57
But it's like I know they did away with the visa celebration
35:59
in the spring but these dudes are like having visa every time
36:03
the the wide receivers get together.
36:05
But impressive, including the Kansas City kid, Jalen Noel from
36:08
Park Hill, the I think Strouds and he even said he's blowing
36:13
the rest off after the three games he missed with concussion.
36:16
But I mean, Davis Mills went three and oh, and that's the
36:19
testimony to that defense. But what they've got going here
36:22
now, Nico Collins is an Olympic 400 meter hurdler playing
36:25
football. I think he's he's superb.
36:28
But when they got Woody Marks, the rookie running back at a
36:31
USC, he was at Mississippi State most of the time.
36:34
But Woody Marks has made a big difference.
36:35
He's a JK Dobbins look alike, wears the same number as a
36:41
rookie. And right now he's making a
36:42
profound difference in the Texan offense by giving them some pop
36:46
in the run game. And then Nick Chubbs become
36:48
complimentary. But Woody Marks to me is way
36:51
underrated in what Houston's doing on offense.
36:54
What can you do about drops? I mean, it's one of those things
36:56
that feels like you don't want to talk about it.
36:58
You you're going to practice obviously and try to get better,
37:01
but feels like one of those things that it's not just the
37:03
physical part of it. There's also the mental part in
37:06
it. That snowball effect that
37:07
happens. One guy drops a pass and then
37:09
another and it's happening. But it happened a bunch against
37:12
Dallas. What can be done?
37:13
What is Andy Reid and the rest of that offensive staff doing to
37:15
try to combat that? It's an excellent question and
37:19
it's accentuated against these guys.
37:21
I just laid out there secondary, the best group in the NFL.
37:24
You're going to have tight window plays all day long on
37:28
Sunday night. You're rarely going to scheme
37:31
somebody open and they're all we tricked up.
37:33
Here's 25 yards. You're going to have plays where
37:35
you have a chance to complete it because Mahomes are so accurate.
37:39
But you've got to catch it and it's going to be in a tight
37:42
space with a really good athlete trying to knock it away.
37:46
So it makes it even more so an issue this week.
37:50
It's it's it's so you ask a great question.
37:54
It's more of do you get on the jugs gun?
37:56
Well, the great ones are like a ground ball at you in baseball.
38:00
They just don't even think about it.
38:02
You've got to run your route, you've got to win the battle and
38:05
almost almost Trent. It works in your advantage that
38:08
you're playing such a good secondary this week in that
38:10
regard, because you know and are going to be thinking all week,
38:14
I've got to win battles in a tight space.
38:17
So my awareness and concentration goes up, but
38:20
you've got to have the confidence I'm going to catch
38:21
everything. Not the hey, don't hit the
38:23
ground ball at me because I'll boot it or throw it away like an
38:26
infielder. You've got to have it, hey, hit
38:28
the ball to me, bases loaded and two out, bottom of the ninth,
38:31
hit the ball to me, I will get you out.
38:34
It's really a mentality. 90 seconds left once they have most
38:37
of them for Papa John's. But you mentioned the Houston
38:39
defense are going to get after the quarterback, particularly
38:41
from the edge. Meanwhile, Kansas City's
38:43
offensive line, some injury concerns.
38:46
More injury concerns this week, Mitch.
38:49
Yeah, there will be and coach already said acknowledged it
38:54
that Simmons will go on IR and he broke his wrist and I'd be
38:57
not good. And then you're going to have to
39:00
figure it out the rest of the way and piece it together.
39:03
He's to pole a who I like a rookie is going to be elevated,
39:05
put on the 53 man roster. But this is not the team you
39:09
would select to. Hey, hey, we got injuries with
39:11
both tackles. Let's go play these guys.
39:14
So anyway, yeah, it's a big challenge, but hey, they're not
39:17
stopping and the game and they're not going to give us a
39:19
week to get help. No doubt, Papa Dippo.
39:21
What do we got going on at Papa? John's still going Official
39:26
colors, Trent, You know this. What's the official colors of
39:28
Christmas? It's red and green, yeah.
39:31
Thank you. It's my high school colors.
39:33
People used to make fun of me about it, but hey, red and
39:36
green, baby, What do you see when you see the Donaldson's
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delivery cars all throughout I what do you see?
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What are the colors red and green?
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Colors. Yes, Yes.
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Why would you not get Santa Claus's favorite pizza?
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It's papajohns.com. Think red.
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Think green. Think papajohns.com.
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And Santa Claus will be a happy man.
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Good stuff. Mitch Holtis, we'll talk to you
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next. Week I meant to find you need to
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tell me a high school in Iowa that's got red and green and
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some. Colors.
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Oh, I got one for. You find me one.
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Trent. Scott one.
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It's Boone. The Torridors they are.
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Boone's red and green. They're red and green.
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I'll get you a shirt. The Tour.
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I'm a Boon fan. Give me a shirt, let's go.
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See you, buddy. Talk to you next week.
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Thank you. Mitch Holt is voice of the
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Kansas City Chiefs, Chiefs and the Texans.
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Not getting that were anywhere else.
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No, you're not. Breakdown of school colors.
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Yeah, well done. By the way, what's the number of
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that game Sunday night? Chief says narrow favorite.
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Is it under a field goal? It is Bring it back.
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Up here, 3 1/2 threes, yeah, a circus 3, but most of the other
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places 3 1/2. Who baby?
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David Kaplan kicks off our number 2 Wade looking bill on
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the Hawks. Trent will make some picks.
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That's what lays ahead with us. Our number 2 Miller and Condon
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talking sports with you on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.