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- 2:07Speaker 1: are the usage continues to increase. It's it's primarily driven
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- 2:42Speaker 1: ETF Report. I'm Catherine Colderie. You're listening to Taking Stock
- 2:47Speaker 1: with Kathleen Hays and pimp Box on Bloomberg Radio. What
- 2:52Speaker 1: do drug and discount stores in Japan, real estate in
- 2:55Speaker 1: Germany and a global food company based in Switzerland all
- 2:58Speaker 1: have in common? While they're the focus us of our
- 3:00Speaker 1: next guest, Paul Markham, Global Equities portfolio manager of the
- 3:04Speaker 1: Newton dry Fuss International Equity Fund symbol there s N
- 3:08Speaker 1: I e X and he is from Newton Investment Management,
- 3:12Speaker 1: helping to manage more than one billion dollars of customer assets.
- 3:16Speaker 1: He's based in London and he joins us now. Paul,
- 3:19Speaker 1: thanks very much for being with us. Tell us the
- 3:21Speaker 1: strategy that you mean that you that you use to
- 3:25Speaker 1: manage this fund because it is global in nature and
- 3:29Speaker 1: it covers a wide variety of companies. Yes, that's right,
- 3:33Speaker 1: good afternoon, and it's a pleasure to be to be
- 3:35Speaker 1: with you. Um. Yes, the fund is essentially an international
- 3:39Speaker 1: equity portfolio, which means that it invests around the world,
- 3:42Speaker 1: excluding securities or equities in the US. We try to
- 3:48Speaker 1: divertify the portfolio and have a wide range of geographies,
- 3:51Speaker 1: um and sectors represented. But we do use a thematic
- 3:55Speaker 1: backdrop of those big changes which we see socially, politically
- 3:58Speaker 1: and economically that we think will influence markets over time,
- 4:02Speaker 1: and we allow that to drive our stock selection, and
- 4:04Speaker 1: we have a fairly focused portfolio around sixty stocks on
- 4:07Speaker 1: the fund. You have a lot of big trends to
- 4:09Speaker 1: help you now. Of course, with the US Fed Reserve
- 4:11Speaker 1: maybe starting to continue on a path of tightening, and
- 4:14Speaker 1: the Briggs that vote in the Bank of England. I'm
- 4:16Speaker 1: just fascinated by the Bank of Japan and this big,
- 4:19Speaker 1: big turnaround we've seen in Japanese government bonds, the Bank
- 4:23Speaker 1: of Japan not going pedal to the metal on more
- 4:26Speaker 1: monetary stimulus, and we're going to think about what we're doing.
- 4:29Speaker 1: We've got the details on the fiscal plan from Prime
- 4:32Speaker 1: Minister Abby. What do you make of what's going on Japan?
- 4:35Speaker 1: What does it mean for the markets there and basically
- 4:39Speaker 1: your your global portfolio strategy. Well, I think that's you're
- 4:44Speaker 1: You're very right to put Japan in the context of
- 4:46Speaker 1: what could happen globally, because what we've seen quite often
- 4:49Speaker 1: with many developments in the macro economy is Japan really
- 4:52Speaker 1: leading because it's been the first major economy to really
- 4:56Speaker 1: have the problems of demographics really coming into play, for example.
- 5:00Speaker 1: And so what we're seeing is the Bank of Japan
- 5:02Speaker 1: really throw the ball back into the court of the
- 5:05Speaker 1: Japanese government. So what we're seeing is the potential of
- 5:09Speaker 1: monetary policy perhaps not being as strong an emphasized tool
- 5:16Speaker 1: of of economic policy going forward, and maybe more of
- 5:18Speaker 1: an expansion on the fiscal side, and what that means
- 5:21Speaker 1: in the near term and what we've been seeing over
- 5:23Speaker 1: the last few days is that the market has anticipated
- 5:26Speaker 1: that the b o J will no longer be buying
- 5:29Speaker 1: as many government bonds, and also potentially that the fiscal
- 5:32Speaker 1: burden for the Japanese government will expand. The bond yeld
- 5:35Speaker 1: to have really become far less negative. We had a
- 5:38Speaker 1: very significant move in Japanese government bonds over the last
- 5:41Speaker 1: few days, and that's been positive for the end and
- 5:43Speaker 1: we suspect that will also be negative for the market
- 5:45Speaker 1: going forward, given the Japanese market tends to be dominated
- 5:47Speaker 1: by exports oriented companies. Up the performance of the fund,
- 5:53Speaker 1: it's up about the two and a quarter percent in
- 5:56Speaker 1: one month. You're to date, though, down about the two
- 6:00Speaker 1: and in the context of Japan and wondering if you
- 6:03Speaker 1: could maybe give us a little thought about why some
- 6:06Speaker 1: of these holdings are in the fun Japan Tobacco, don
- 6:10Speaker 1: Quixote holdings. You've also got a holding in Japan Airlines.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Are you betting that the Japanese economy will continue to
- 6:18Speaker 1: prosper despite this lackluster stimulus package. What we've really tried
- 6:23Speaker 1: to do on the portfolio is to let the thematic backdrop,
- 6:27Speaker 1: which we see as being continued very sluggish chronic sluggishness
- 6:32Speaker 1: in the Japanese economy and indeed across many of the
- 6:34Speaker 1: developed markets. And what that's led to is us to
- 6:37Speaker 1: believe that in many cases, companies which are firstly perhaps
- 6:41Speaker 1: focusing on the lower end consumer or companies which have
- 6:45Speaker 1: exceptional return characteristics will prosper in this environment. So Don Dyuxote,
- 6:50Speaker 1: for example, is the Japanese equivalent really of a dollar
- 6:53Speaker 1: store UM, and it's run very much for profit, with
- 6:57Speaker 1: very much more efficient operating metrics than it's petitors domestically
- 7:01Speaker 1: in Japan, much more like a Western company, if you will.
- 7:04Speaker 1: On the for example, Japanese Airlines investment case, this is
- 7:08Speaker 1: a company which is very different to Global Airlines, has
- 7:11Speaker 1: twice the operating profit operating margin of many of its
- 7:15Speaker 1: global competitors, as a high dividan yield. The government took
- 7:19Speaker 1: it out of bankruptcy and made sure that it's pension
- 7:21Speaker 1: liabilities no longer we're on its balance sheet. So this
- 7:24Speaker 1: is something which we see as being very much a
- 7:26Speaker 1: special situation UM. And finally, companies such as Japan Tobacco
- 7:31Speaker 1: for many years a company with substandard returns relative to
- 7:34Speaker 1: competitors in the US or in the UK, for example,
- 7:37Speaker 1: but a company with exceptional global brands, we think of
- 7:39Speaker 1: very strong management team and rising cash returns. And I
- 7:42Speaker 1: think in this environment of financial repression and very low
- 7:45Speaker 1: bond yields, I think high dividan the yield will continue
- 7:47Speaker 1: to be the global investors an attractive phenomenon, even if
- 7:52Speaker 1: in the near term we may see some other pressure
- 7:54Speaker 1: on bond yields, which may see some of those yielding
- 7:56Speaker 1: stocks do a little bit less well in the market.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Bank of England big meeting on Thursday, they passed on
- 8:02Speaker 1: the rate cut in July many I mean, smalt pent.
- 8:05Speaker 1: They've got to do it and then give us more
- 8:07Speaker 1: details about their plan um equities companies in the UK.
- 8:11Speaker 1: Is that an area to stay away from? How do
- 8:12Speaker 1: you deal with that right now if you don't know
- 8:13Speaker 1: how Brexit is going to play out? Well, yes, absolutely,
- 8:16Speaker 1: I mean the Bank of England's um sort of quandary
- 8:19Speaker 1: is pretty clear. I think what we've been seeing in
- 8:22Speaker 1: the last couple of days is some comments from former
- 8:25Speaker 1: Monetary Policy Committee members at the Bank of England who
- 8:28Speaker 1: have suggested that Governor Carney doesn't have too much possible
- 8:34Speaker 1: further monetary stimulus to to to create UM, I guess
- 8:37Speaker 1: that's you know, current policy rate half a per cent.
- 8:39Speaker 1: We could potentially, and we did originally expect post Brexit
- 8:42Speaker 1: to see a cut to zero. UM. What I think
- 8:45Speaker 1: is becoming clear is that the post Brexit data has
- 8:49Speaker 1: got worse, but we haven't yet seen enough data to
- 8:53Speaker 1: justify that full jump down to zero interest rate repost
- 8:58Speaker 1: zero interest rate policy. So what I think will be
- 9:01Speaker 1: bothering the Bank of England is the idea that they
- 9:03Speaker 1: could cut rates completely to zero and then we see
- 9:06Speaker 1: a deterioration in real estate and the consumer economy further
- 9:10Speaker 1: down the line, and that will then mean that they
- 9:12Speaker 1: have very little room to cut rates any further. So
- 9:15Speaker 1: what I suspect may happen is that they may go halfway.
- 9:18Speaker 1: They could go for a twenty five basis point cut
- 9:21Speaker 1: or maybe something you know, unorthodox, like a ten basis
- 9:24Speaker 1: point cut. But at this moment it does seem that
- 9:27Speaker 1: the the market is rather betting on a disappointing rate
- 9:29Speaker 1: cup from Bank of England, given the strength of sterling
- 9:32Speaker 1: over the last few days. On the subject to the
- 9:34Speaker 1: equity markets in the UK, it is interesting to see
- 9:37Speaker 1: that we've had a really strong rally posts the sort
- 9:40Speaker 1: of Brexit collapse, and largely I guess that is to
- 9:44Speaker 1: do with the fact that the particular oriented towards exports
- 9:50Speaker 1: UM and that's something which has been very helped by
- 9:52Speaker 1: much help by a weaker sterling. However, looking forward UM,
- 9:56Speaker 1: it certainly seems that the prospects for the UK economy
- 10:00Speaker 1: in the near term are uncertain. It may be over
- 10:03Speaker 1: a much longer period of time that the UK is
- 10:05Speaker 1: able to establish itself once again as a very major
- 10:08Speaker 1: player on the world stage. And certainly we've seen so
- 10:11Speaker 1: far quite a lot of interest from many major international
- 10:14Speaker 1: trading partners to put some sorts of trading agreement in place,
- 10:18Speaker 1: but that can't happen until the Brexit process is finished,
- 10:22Speaker 1: and that could take some time to do so. I
- 10:25Speaker 1: think the UK economy will be um, you know, certainly
- 10:29Speaker 1: in a doubtful place for a period of time. The market,
- 10:32Speaker 1: I suspect will act quite cyclically. It may will be
- 10:35Speaker 1: a kind of risk on market for the next year
- 10:38Speaker 1: or two, and in the in the near term it
- 10:40Speaker 1: does feel that maybe there is scope for a little
- 10:42Speaker 1: bit of disappointment after a strong run. Paul marcam thank you.
- 10:45Speaker 1: So very much. Was looking at a global macro pictures
- 10:48Speaker 1: such a big factor for global equity markets and also
- 10:51Speaker 1: some of the individual holdings in his portfolio. He's Global
- 10:56Speaker 1: Equities portfolio manager for the Newton Drivers International equity fund.
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