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FTTxJT 070326 Senator Cornyn Admits It · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: Talk radio just the way your mother used to make it.
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Speaker 1: First thing today by Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I get it. We're gonna talk about Mitch McConnell
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Speaker 2: and it's the Kentucky Headhunters. Only a rock and roll
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Speaker 2: DJ even remembers the name the Kentucky Headhunters. No, No,
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Speaker 2: that didn't happen to Mitch yet. The question for you
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Speaker 2: going on so uh, you know, and I for our
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Speaker 2: different hometown radio in Danville and all across Kentucky. And
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Speaker 2: it's so beautiful to have a state that can have
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Speaker 2: Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell representing it and Senate. These reports,
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Speaker 2: do they bother you that Mitch is basically incapacitated and
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Speaker 2: his staff is doing everything, setting all the appointments, helping
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Speaker 2: him walk from meeting to meeting. Who when he just
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Speaker 2: sits there, the staff issues written statements. And believe me,
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Speaker 2: my dad went this way. He had congestive heart issues.
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Speaker 2: And I watched the guy that you know used to
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Speaker 2: bound around from you know, subway station to subway station
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Speaker 2: in New York, Irish pub, Irish pub to basketball game
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Speaker 2: to meetings, getting people jobs and raising money for nonprofits
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Speaker 2: you know, reduced to I, you know, couldn't even get
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Speaker 2: out of his chair. So I'm not lampooning. I'm just saying,
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Speaker 2: at some point, is he representing the state of Kentucky.
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Speaker 2: And to be fair, the existence of these super legislators.
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Speaker 2: As we celebrate two hundred and fifty years of the
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Speaker 2: United States, let's take a moment and pause on one
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Speaker 2: of the biggest abrogations of the American experience, that is
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Speaker 2: the creation of these super legislators, ripped from the representation
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Speaker 2: of the individual states whose contributions used to make up
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Speaker 2: this country, a country that was referred to two hundred
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Speaker 2: and fifty years ago as these United States of America.
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Speaker 2: And it may sound subtle, but it's about as important
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Speaker 2: a twist of the English language as the difference between
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Speaker 2: the creator and their creator. Just two letters, right, These
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Speaker 2: United States of America used to send senators to represent
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Speaker 2: the issues confronting the states writ large, and they would
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Speaker 2: be appointed by governors, and they could be recalled by governors,
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Speaker 2: but it would take an act of their General Assembly.
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Speaker 2: And the founders, years after the declaration of independence, were
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Speaker 2: of the mind that that conflagration of different elected bodies,
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Speaker 2: the elected governor, the elected General Assembly of the several states.
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Speaker 2: All led to a volatility that would keep the US
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Speaker 2: Senators from just being kingmakers. They were vested with special
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Speaker 2: powers because they were representing a different group than the citizens.
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Speaker 2: The citizens were represented by the members of the House.
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Speaker 2: And amongst the perversions of our foundation, along with the
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Speaker 2: Permanent Reapportionment Act of nineteen twenty nine, was the idea
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Speaker 2: not long after. Actually it might have just they were
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Speaker 2: first proposed at about the same time. It took them
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Speaker 2: longer to freeze the size of the US House. But
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Speaker 2: these created super legislators. If a senator started to fail
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Speaker 2: in his mission to represent the governor's ideas or even
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Speaker 2: the previous governor's ideas and represent the state well, the
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Speaker 2: governor could recall, especially if health was a concern. Now,
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you want Andy Bisheer appointing a governor,
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Speaker 2: but that was the point, was that you voted for
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Speaker 2: your governor, and then the governor said, hey, here's who
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Speaker 2: I want to serve in the US Senate, and your
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Speaker 2: General Assembly would vote for them. And so I watched
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Speaker 2: the decline of Mitch McConnell being walked around by staffers
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Speaker 2: to get to hearings and hearing of you know, massive
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Speaker 2: coronary incidents that had to be you know, treated nine
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Speaker 2: to one one calls. And I think, you know, it's
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Speaker 2: it's horrific for me to think of somebody being dragged around.
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Speaker 2: I worked through my chemotherapy, and I guess the question
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Speaker 2: for you know, Kentucky, is is Mitch McConnell doing what
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Speaker 2: you need him to be doing, neither here nor there
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Speaker 2: regarding the president's agenda or anything else. And it's with
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Speaker 2: that we pivot to John Cornyn.
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Speaker 3: Like what.
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Speaker 2: John Cornyn is out there screaming about a Politico piece
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Speaker 2: called the GOP's Dirty Little Secret about the Save America Act.
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Speaker 2: And John Cornan has finally had enough, He's had all
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Speaker 2: he can stand. He can't stands no more of people
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Speaker 2: like you and me saying what the hell is the
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Speaker 2: matter with the Save America Act? And this is what
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Speaker 2: John Cornan points to, that it stops mail in balloting.
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Speaker 2: They have it because the Save America Act insists that
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Speaker 2: as democracy had been done for centuries since the Greeks
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Speaker 2: in the word, the way to protect the integrity of
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Speaker 2: voting is that you vote secretly in public. I know
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Speaker 2: it seems like a discordant, incongruous sound to hear, But
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Speaker 2: you vote secretly in public. The in public part is
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Speaker 2: important because that is how we as a community ensure
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Speaker 2: that your vote is not being coerced. That's not blaming you.
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Speaker 2: You could be in an abusive relationship, you could have
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Speaker 2: people who you owe money to. Any number of things
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Speaker 2: could coerce you to vote in a way contrary to
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Speaker 2: what you might want to do. You could argue that
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Speaker 2: media narrative is coercion. If we in the media do
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Speaker 2: nothing thing more than report the facts, then you just
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Speaker 2: get the facts. If we're out there saying, wow, we
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Speaker 2: really like this John Corning guy, I think you should
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Speaker 2: vote for him, that's coercion in a way. Your favorite
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Speaker 2: radio show tells you who to vote for. It's a
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Speaker 2: moderate form of coercion. But you're supposed to be able
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Speaker 2: to get to that ballot box free of all those coercions.
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Speaker 2: No radios, no iPods playing your favorite podcast in your ear,
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Speaker 2: just you and your ballot, with your community forty fifty
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Speaker 2: sixty yards away from you, watching to make sure nobody
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Speaker 2: is standing behind you saying yeah, yeah, yeah, check check
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Speaker 2: the box that says Corning Cory and what happens in
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Speaker 2: mail in balloting, And we'll explore this a little bit
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Speaker 2: more when we come back from the news here at
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Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour. You don't have that.
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Speaker 2: From the home of.
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Speaker 1: The first amend first thing today.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for letting us be of service to you.
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Speaker 2: Fella who has been covering news so long he worked
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Speaker 2: for No, that's not fair to infer that our friend
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Speaker 2: Matt actually was there when William Randolph Hirst said we
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Speaker 2: need to change how the Senate is elected. Is not fair.
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Speaker 2: But he has spurience and a lot of India Ink
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Speaker 2: under his fingers there, and he's on the phone at
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Speaker 2: four three four eight eight two four two one seven
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Speaker 2: parting Matt, how are you doing, sir?
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Speaker 3: Oh, not too bad. I did want to point out
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Speaker 3: that this isn't the first time we've had a zombie
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Speaker 3: on the on the payroll. We did this with the
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Speaker 3: we did this with the President, we did this with
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Speaker 3: Senator Dianne Feinstein, so I guess we can do it
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Speaker 3: with Mitch McConnell.
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Speaker 2: There was some video. There was some video circulating social
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Speaker 2: media two days ago, I think of Senator Dianne Feinstein
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Speaker 2: from I think it was nineteen eighty two, talking about
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Speaker 2: the border and birthright citizenship. And it was funny because
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Speaker 2: I was trying to listen to what she said, but
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Speaker 2: I couldn't help but think she looks like Nathan Lane
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Speaker 2: in the birdcage. Well I'm sorry, go ahead, try try
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Speaker 2: to get try to get that image out of y'all.
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Speaker 2: Y'all heads this morning with me, anyway? Go ahead?
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Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, Well, I mean, I'm got a lot of
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Speaker 3: problems with Mitch McConnell, but I think he justified his
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Speaker 3: existence by keeping Merrick Garland off the Supreme Court.
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Speaker 2: You know, if your life is the sum total of
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Speaker 2: just a few instances, Yeah, I gotta agree with you.
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Speaker 2: Of the things what we learned about Merrick Garland and
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Speaker 2: what he could have been, like, I mean, was bad
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Speaker 2: enough as Attorney General. And I think some of Merrick
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Speaker 2: Garland's problem was he just wasn't as slick about it
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Speaker 2: as Eric Holder because or maybe we just weren't afraid
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Speaker 2: of afraid of Merrick Garland as we were of Eric Holder.
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Speaker 2: Because I'm sure Eric Holder was as bad, if not worse,
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Speaker 2: in terms of abusing Americans' rights and his legal authority
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Speaker 2: as an Attorney general.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think Holder was worse. He was just smarter, right,
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Speaker 3: or I think Garland came into this whole thing with
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Speaker 3: the idea of, hey, we can do whatever we want,
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Speaker 3: can't we That's.
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Speaker 2: What Eric told me. But you know, Eric was you know,
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Speaker 2: Eric had, you know, Barack Obama running cover for him,
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Speaker 2: and you weren't allowed to criticize the Obama administration, and
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Speaker 2: that included the Attorney General. Less nless, you get canceled
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Speaker 2: back when being canceled mentally.
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Speaker 3: If you didn't like Eric Older, that meant you were
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Speaker 3: a racist.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's basically what if you didn't like anything that
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Speaker 2: happened during the Obama administration, you were a racist.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, but getting getting back to this, to this corning.
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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, and this bless his heart for telling us why.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he was defeated in the primary, so now
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Speaker 3: he can tell the truth. The The thing I stress
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Speaker 3: about is that I hear a lot of people, I
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Speaker 3: read a lot of people who are saying, now, you know,
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Speaker 3: the left has gone too far. The American people aren't
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Speaker 3: going to vote for socialists. They're not going to vote
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Speaker 3: for communists, They're not going to vote for you know,
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Speaker 3: a guy with a Nazi tattoo on his chest.
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Speaker 2: Thing The thing.
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Speaker 3: That the thing that I worry about with these mail
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Speaker 3: in ballots. I don't think it matters who the American
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Speaker 3: people vote for. I mean, this gets this gets back
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Speaker 3: to Joetllen's observation that it doesn't matter who votes, it
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Speaker 3: matters who counts the votes, right, And I think with
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Speaker 3: with all of the shenanigans that have gone on, I mean,
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Speaker 3: I still do not believe the election that put Abigail
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Speaker 3: Spanberger in Richmond. I don't believe the FLEDMA site that
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Speaker 3: we had over whether or not to read district. And
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Speaker 3: thank god the Virginia Court had enough gumption to get
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Speaker 3: us out of that one. Well, sure, but I don't
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Speaker 3: I don't trust any any of these elections anymore.
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Speaker 2: Well, and that's the point. But that's what they want.
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Speaker 2: They want us to lose faith in the system, and
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Speaker 2: therefore then they can come in as heroes and institute
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Speaker 2: a new and better one.
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Speaker 3: Matt Well, I haven't lost faith in the system. I've
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Speaker 3: lost faith in the people that are running the system.
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Speaker 3: And this gets back to what we were talking about
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Speaker 3: the other day with the Stupid Party and the Evil Party.
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Speaker 3: I think you've got a lot of people in the
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Speaker 3: Evil Party that haven't been legitimately elected. But god, there
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Speaker 3: I go. So I'm like a racist to get.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, but the stupid party allows it. And
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Speaker 2: that's where this Corning bit, you know, he's you know, big,
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Speaker 2: you know, to do about the GOP's dirty little secret. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: we want to stop mail in balloting exactly. You want
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Speaker 2: us to act surprised that you want you're inventing it.
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Speaker 2: Of course we want to stop mail in balloting. I
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Speaker 2: want to stop ballot harvesting too. That way, baskets, baskets
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Speaker 2: of ballots don't show up at eleven o'clock right before
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Speaker 2: the polls stopped closing. And oh yeah, this came from
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Speaker 2: the Senior Center and and they all mysteriously look like
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Speaker 2: they have the same handwriting. Because here's the thing about
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Speaker 2: ballot harvesting and mail in ballots. So we ask for transparency,
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Speaker 2: and investigative journalists want to say, I want to you know,
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Speaker 2: audit the ballots. Okay, yeah, but where did the ballots
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Speaker 2: come from? Oh we don't know that. Remember, the most
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Speaker 2: US states have laws against electioneering varying degrees of distance
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Speaker 2: in between the last line of electioneering. Hey vote for
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Speaker 2: my guy, Hey vote for my gal and the polling place.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's forty yards in Virginia. No, it's
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Speaker 2: forty yards from the entrance to the building and then
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Speaker 2: nothing in the building. So it's forty yards from the
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Speaker 2: entrance to the school or the courthouse where you're voting
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Speaker 2: is the limit, So you have forty I think it's
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Speaker 2: forty yards of free space to be free of coercion.
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Speaker 2: And then of course the building where the polling is
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Speaker 2: taking place. But you don't know that isn't happening with
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Speaker 2: ballot harvesting. It's the people who are doing ballot harvesting.
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Speaker 2: We found over and over and over again are partisans.
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Speaker 2: They're volunteers for various political parties, and then they're given
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Speaker 2: permission to act as ballot harvesters, going to people's homes
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Speaker 2: with lists of eligible but unregistered voters and going and saying, yes, sir,
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Speaker 2: you're not registered to vote, and you know that's a shame, sir,
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Speaker 2: and I want to make it possible. And then they
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Speaker 2: register them, vote them right there. You know, I can
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Speaker 2: take that ballot right back here, sir. I'm a licensed
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Speaker 2: to ballot harvester. Oh that's great, sir. Well, you get
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Speaker 2: back to watching family feud and thank you so much
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Speaker 2: for voting. Uh and oh, now paying all attention to
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Speaker 2: the Abigail Spanburger buttons, I'm not trying to tell you
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Speaker 2: who to vote for, but uh, you know who to
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Speaker 2: vote for.
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Speaker 3: Wink wink.
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Speaker 2: But that kind of coercion is now a violation to
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Speaker 2: me of the electioneering laws in all these states because
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Speaker 2: of ballot harvesting right at somebody's front door.
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Speaker 3: Well, and I think at one point I thought, Okay,
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Speaker 3: if we had to save act, that would eliminate a
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Speaker 3: lot of this, and then I realized that, yeah, okay, fine,
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Speaker 3: we come up with the same act, they come up
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Speaker 3: with some other way of just kind of sneaking things in.
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Speaker 3: I am afraid that I am getting cynical.
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Speaker 2: Really, you're just starting to notice, Matt, what was your first.
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Speaker 3: And I I have gotten to the point where I
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Speaker 3: cringe every time I hear span Berger's name, because I
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Speaker 3: have this vision that she is going to be a
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Speaker 3: dark horse in twenty twenty eight.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's a hang on to that thought, because that's
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Speaker 2: when my column at the Daily Signal is all about
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Speaker 2: her versus Shapiro.
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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, Hi, jus.
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Speaker 2: Wait, what under the programming philosophy? Enough about me, let's
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Speaker 2: talk about you. What do you think of me? We
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Speaker 2: were heading right. Matt brought up the inclination of these
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Speaker 2: governors of many of the several states to think theyselves
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Speaker 2: to be front runners. You brought up Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania,
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Speaker 2: just brought him up in my daily signal column.
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Speaker 3: Match. Yeah, but again, I think the difference there is
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Speaker 3: that Shapiro still believes in the system. You think spam
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Speaker 3: Spamberger thinks she runs the system.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, if you long enough in the CIA,
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Speaker 2: you might think that.
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Speaker 3: She can jack up our electric rates. And it isn't
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Speaker 3: going to matter because whatever she runs for next, she's
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Speaker 3: going to have the ballot harvesters and the mail in
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Speaker 3: ballots and all of that, and that race has already
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Speaker 3: decided before she even gets into it.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, and that's where a lot of people
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Speaker 2: point to her experience at quote Langley as a case
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Speaker 2: officer for the Central Intelligence Agency. Uh, these sort of operations,
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Speaker 2: you know, Well, you know, look at Iran for example,
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Speaker 2: you know, and and we begin there, and and who say,
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Speaker 2: who's to say they just didn't get better at it
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Speaker 2: all over all these years since the fifties, and installing
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Speaker 2: the people who are going to do the things that
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Speaker 2: the other people want them to do. It's it's, you know, sad,
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Speaker 2: but I mean it is where we are until we
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Speaker 2: go back to being able to observe each person as
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Speaker 2: they arrive to vote.
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Speaker 3: And I think she approaches all of this is just
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Speaker 3: another psyops campaign.
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Speaker 2: Let me be thank you for letting me be of
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Speaker 2: service to you. This morning we approach the day. Of course,
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Speaker 2: you know, technically we're already two hundred and fifty years old.
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Speaker 2: As we ratified the declaration of independence on July two,
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Speaker 2: didn't tell everyone about it. Where's where are the investigative
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Speaker 2: journalists and the foyer requests going out for all of
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Speaker 2: that this morning. We've got lots to get into things
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Speaker 2: going on in the news, so I will make make
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Speaker 2: my sit down with President Jefferson. I'm sorry mister Jefferson
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Speaker 2: with him. We've already spoken for a little bit, and
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Speaker 2: Who's this, Hey, Joe, It's Clark, Yes, sir, how are you.
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Speaker 3: I'm great.
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Speaker 8: I did not mean to interrupt your sit down with
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Speaker 8: mister Jefferson.
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Speaker 2: Well that's all right, everybody, everybody. I got two emails saying,
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Speaker 2: come to Charlottesville even though you don't work here anymore?
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Speaker 2: And you got sued by the last people who worked
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Speaker 2: who you worked for in Charlottesville, and so you know,
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Speaker 2: it's a slave to many masters. I wish I could
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Speaker 2: be everywhere. It's the joy of radios. You get to
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Speaker 2: be everywhere in a lot of places there. But what's
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Speaker 2: on your mind?
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Speaker 8: Well, I do have to admit first things First, Joe,
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Speaker 8: and you said we were going to get a special
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Speaker 8: treat this morning.
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Speaker 3: A voice in my head said, dude, he's gonna play
26:06
Speaker 3: Joe Bandy orro Bandy.
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Speaker 2: So well, you know, it is all what you focus on.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: So, expanding on your conversation with Matt, which I really enjoyed,
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Speaker 8: you mentioned that now they can at eleven o'clock or
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Speaker 8: just before the polls close, they can.
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Speaker 3: Have boxes of ballots show up. But it goes so
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Speaker 3: much further than that.
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Speaker 8: Joe, number one, I believe your CIA operative governor just
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Speaker 8: recently signed the National Popular Vote. What do they call
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Speaker 8: that a pack?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not an impact of law yet, but yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's it's a compact that says that our state wants
26:53
Speaker 2: to give up its sovereignty a little bit more like
26:57
Speaker 2: we did when we get a up our Senate choices.
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Speaker 8: Okay, so once you have enough signatures to that, then
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Speaker 8: whoever gets the most national popular votes, we'll get all
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Speaker 8: the states that have signs.
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Speaker 3: Electoral votes, yes, and that will.
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Speaker 2: Determine the president.
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Speaker 8: So let's just stick that off to the side.
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Speaker 2: All right, we got I got that? All right? Yeah,
27:26
Speaker 2: this is all well and good. Can you hang on
27:27
Speaker 2: because we got rules and got I've got services, I've
27:31
Speaker 2: got to provide here.
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Speaker 8: Got interrupt any rules or regulations or bodily functions, Go
27:36
Speaker 8: ahead and take.
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Speaker 2: Care of hell.
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Speaker 6: Think about this. There are five freedoms guaranteed in the
27:42
Speaker 6: First Amendment. Freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of
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Speaker 6: the press, freedom to peaceably assemble, freedom to petition the government?
27:51
Speaker 6: Which freedom can you live without? Fortunately, the First Amendment
27:55
Speaker 6: doesn't make you choose. It protects all five freedoms equally.
28:00
Speaker 6: Think First. Go to Think First Amendment dot org to
28:02
Speaker 6: learn more.
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Speaker 2: When might you be buzzed?
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Speaker 7: When you suddenly love everything you guys?
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Speaker 8: I love this song, I love these not chocks, I
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Speaker 8: love our kickball league.
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Speaker 6: Oh I love this guy?
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Speaker 1: What's your name?
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Speaker 2: You know what? I'd love a ride when it's time
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Speaker 2: to head out.
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Speaker 7: If you see a buzz warning sign, call for a
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Speaker 7: ride when it's time to go home.
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Speaker 2: Buzz driving is drunk driving.
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Speaker 7: A message from NITZA and the ad Council's radio.
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Speaker 3: It's on.
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Speaker 1: First Thing Today on the Talk Media Network by Joe Thomas.
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Speaker 8: Fifty six men who signed the Declaration of Independence and
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Speaker 8: the thirty seven who.
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Speaker 2: Signed the Constitution is to you, missus. Jeff will mess.
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Speaker 1: You than you will know.
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Speaker 2: Two hundred years ago a legal filing suing for peace
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Speaker 2: changed the world, and we're celebrating it here coming to
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Speaker 2: you from mister Jefferson's home. It's also mister Wilson's home.
29:15
Speaker 2: So I mean, you take the up with the down. Now,
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Speaker 2: there's somebody who is not going to stop for a
29:21
Speaker 2: minute to remind you that he was president of the
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Speaker 2: United States. Woody. They're the founder of America, Mark one
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Speaker 2: and Mark two, the head of the technocrats, and the
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Speaker 2: after birth of a nation. Crew there. So proud we are,
29:35
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry. It's just when you juxtaposed Woodrow Wilson
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Speaker 2: not fifty miles from mister Jefferson, it's just it's a
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Speaker 2: it's a tough sell. And you know, the funny thing
29:46
Speaker 2: is we have Wilson's Presidential museum here in Central Virginia,
29:51
Speaker 2: in Stanton, Virginia. Hey lived there for a year and
29:56
Speaker 2: it was the first year, so Okay, he was born here.
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Speaker 2: I think he was gone. Is it Princeton? But you know,
30:04
Speaker 2: somebody's got to have his presidential situation going on there.
30:08
Speaker 2: We only just learned that. Heck, I thought Sagamore Hill
30:11
Speaker 2: was Teddy Roosevelt's presidential you know, memorial home, and now
30:17
Speaker 2: to find out his presidential library is now in North Dakota.
30:21
Speaker 2: So you know, you learn something new every day. If
30:24
Speaker 2: you're paying attention, I hope you are, and thank you
30:26
Speaker 2: for joining us. Doctor Clark was hanging on the line,
30:28
Speaker 2: was about to get into something about the Central Intelligence
30:32
Speaker 2: Agency and politicians who are trained up there and then
30:38
Speaker 2: go into quote unquote our public representations. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
30:42
Speaker 2: We just needed to tell everyone what was going on.
30:44
Speaker 2: Otherwise we're pretty useless as a talk radio show without
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Speaker 2: the news. First. So what's on your mind, Clark?
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Speaker 8: Okay, so you got the national popular vote pack right now?
30:57
Speaker 8: Is there any doubt in your mind?
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Speaker 3: Tony? Tony was still and they've done in mind?
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Speaker 8: So you've got five or six states is all it took.
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Speaker 3: To steal an election.
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Speaker 8: But the thing about that, Joe, is it wasn't five
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Speaker 8: or six states. It was five or six cities. But
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Speaker 8: the thing about that is it wasn't the entire cities.
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Speaker 8: They just had to have two or three precincts in
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Speaker 8: each one.
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Speaker 3: And when it.
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Speaker 8: Came to how they cheated, you certainly have to give
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Speaker 8: the Democrats credit. They learned you don't put all your
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Speaker 8: eggs in one basket. Every time they got caught cheating,
31:34
Speaker 8: they could successfully say, well, okay, there was a massive
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Speaker 8: fraud here, but it wasn't enough by itself to overturn
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Speaker 8: the outcome of the election.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, figuring we couldn't catch at all. So oh yeah
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Speaker 2: Oopswulton County, ooh our bad. We you know, one slip through,
31:50
Speaker 2: but it got that yeah isolated.
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Speaker 8: You've got the recent Roberts ruling where Mississippi can just
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Speaker 8: keep counting mail.
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Speaker 3: In ballots Yep, no matter.
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Speaker 8: How light they come in, so long as somebody stamps
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Speaker 8: a postmark on them that says they were mailed by
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Speaker 8: election date.
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Speaker 3: So you got that, Joe.
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Speaker 8: The only purpose election day serves now is to determine
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Speaker 8: how many mail in ballots must be manufactured and counted
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Speaker 8: until they get the desired result. I say, only point
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Speaker 8: in it is to tell them deficit we.
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Speaker 2: Start whenever we want. Virginia is already voting, and it's
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Speaker 2: August fourth primary. We have forty five days of early voting.
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Speaker 2: Who knows how long we can keep voting. Keep I'm
32:38
Speaker 2: sorry counting the votes afterwards. But here's a story. And
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Speaker 2: I said this the other day, Clark that points to it,
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Speaker 2: and I appreciate your point because it tees me up
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Speaker 2: on this. I pulled this story off the Associated Press
32:51
Speaker 2: of all places you want to talk about, weird places
32:55
Speaker 2: to find people hearing us. Two days ago I began
32:58
Speaker 2: honking on about the fact that for all of these
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Speaker 2: bowing and scraping in bells and whistles, we haven't seen
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Speaker 2: an uptick in voter turnout. As a matter of fact,
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Speaker 2: the opposite. Well here Los Angeles dateline. California is finally
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Speaker 2: nearing the end of the ballot counting from its June
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Speaker 2: second primary, a tediously slow process that is largely the
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Speaker 2: result of multiple changes over the years intended to boost
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Speaker 2: turnout by making voting easier and more accessible. State data
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Speaker 2: and experts who study voting trends suggests those efforts have
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Speaker 2: made no significant improvement to participation, which is quote, if
33:38
Speaker 2: you do the ap to English English to AP translation
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Speaker 2: guide that means voter turnout. As I've looked at, the
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Speaker 2: numbers have gone down. And believe me, California is as
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Speaker 2: intransparent as possible when it comes to voter turnout numbers.
33:54
Speaker 2: But they are down. They're still down. Virginia's down, Michigan's down,
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Speaker 2: New York's that the nation as a whole is down
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Speaker 2: voting turnout since COVID when we started doing all of
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Speaker 2: these machinations. Doctor Clark is down. Turnout for the June
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Speaker 2: primary forty percent in California forty percent. And you can
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Speaker 2: pretty much vote wherever you are, whenever you are, okay,
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Speaker 2: And so you know, as I said, it's just by
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Speaker 2: my analysis, and now the AP is saying the same thing,
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Speaker 2: Michael Blood reporting that that you know, every place that's
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Speaker 2: going through this is seeing a downturn, not an uptick
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Speaker 2: in voter participation.
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Speaker 8: It's a feature, not a flaw. Let's wrap this up
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Speaker 8: and put a bow on it.
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Speaker 2: Right, because I got more people here lining up here.
34:48
Speaker 2: It's like everyone's got the day off today.
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Speaker 8: Matt said he was getting cynical. My best John mcclin voice,
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Speaker 8: Welcome to the party, pal.
34:58
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
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Speaker 8: The more the people that realize that the only point
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Speaker 8: of election day is so they'll know how many votes
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Speaker 8: they have to manufacture, the fewer people are going to
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Speaker 8: turn out.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, this is all because John Cornyn
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Speaker 2: yesterday finally said, in his best Popeye voice, I've had
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Speaker 2: those I can stands, I can stand the more, posted
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Speaker 2: the Facebook historian Politico. That's the dirty little secret about
35:21
Speaker 2: the Save America Act. It will ban voting by mail. Well, gee,
35:27
Speaker 2: you think again. Not a flaw but a feature, John Cornyn.
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Speaker 2: Last time I checked a member of the Republican Party
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Speaker 2: in favor of mail in voting from wherever whenever. I
35:39
Speaker 2: guess it's good to be the king when he maybe
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Speaker 2: that would have helped him not get voted out of office.
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Speaker 2: Joel is hanging on the line with us. Joel, thank
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Speaker 2: you for waiting. What's on your mind, sir?
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Speaker 3: Hey, good morning, Joe.
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Speaker 9: I just wanted to say this. I think that we
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Speaker 9: need to have if we are we as we say,
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Speaker 9: we hold these truths to be self evident, and we
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Speaker 9: the people, I think the majority, somehow we need to
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Speaker 9: figure out how to get Congress and the Senate to
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Speaker 9: have term limits because the people that want mail and balance.
36:20
Speaker 9: Are people that that want that don't want to be
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Speaker 9: present for an election, just like a senator or a
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Speaker 9: congressman or congresswoman that can't make it to the to
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Speaker 9: the floor. They either remember back during COVID, they could
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Speaker 9: do these anomaly kind of votes from elect you know,
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Speaker 9: electronic or from a Jersey.
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Speaker 3: The problem.
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Speaker 9: The problem is we had mister McConnell and other people
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Speaker 9: that are in office that aren't even present. I mean
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Speaker 9: they're there, but they're not present because and I think
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Speaker 9: there should be some way of I mean, everybody decline.
37:02
Speaker 2: You're not gonna like it by the press, you're not
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Speaker 2: gonna like my answer, because my answer is gonna be
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Speaker 2: summed up as is, this is an US problem because
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Speaker 2: the Constitution does imply in for term limits on all
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Speaker 2: of these people because they have to stand for re
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Speaker 2: election and unfortunately, because we've given the GOP and the
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Speaker 2: Democrats untoward power.
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Speaker 1: Question on a need to know basis, because you need
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Speaker 2: Get back to my exclusive sit down with the author
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Speaker 2: of the Declaration of Independence in a moment. But Joel
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Speaker 2: was on the phone with us and you teed up
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Speaker 2: a question about term limits, and I know that's a
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Speaker 2: common thing in my industry to go on about term limits.
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Speaker 2: But we have term limits, they're in the constitution. Congressman
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Speaker 2: have to run every two years. Senators, I mean, it's
39:08
Speaker 2: ridiculous that they still have a six year term even
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Speaker 2: though we elect them popularly now, but they do. They
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Speaker 2: still have to stand for some sort of reelection. It's
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Speaker 2: a party limitation that that you're seeing, not a not
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Speaker 2: a choice when the parties have these permanent ballot placements.
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Speaker 2: That's what makes it seem like, you know, you have
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Speaker 2: no choice.
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Speaker 3: I think.
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Speaker 9: I think the thing too, is that there's when you
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Speaker 9: say that, you know when I say you, I mean
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Speaker 9: everybody is a universal term that there's an eighty twenty issue.
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Speaker 9: This is more like a ninety ninety five five issue,
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Speaker 9: because the majority of people see people and you know,
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Speaker 9: you're talking to that about Dianne Feinstein, and we know
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Speaker 9: about Joe Biden, and I know there's a twenty fifth
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Speaker 9: Amendment and all that.
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Speaker 2: Others because and here's and here's why you see this,
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Speaker 2: and you're talking about these people who seem to be
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Speaker 2: planted in these offices forever because and this happened in
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Speaker 2: Virginia's seventh district once Eric Canter became the congressman from
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Speaker 2: that district. You know what he did. He got partisans
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Speaker 2: who favored him elected to all the district chairs, all
40:19
Speaker 2: the unit chairs in his district. So if there ever
40:22
Speaker 2: was a discussion as to how to choose the Republican
40:25
Speaker 2: nominee for that district, his people would be the ones
40:29
Speaker 2: doing the choosing. So you see this, this unconstitutional power
40:36
Speaker 2: wielded by the two political parties is the corrosive force.
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Speaker 2: As I said, the issue is not term limits, it's
40:44
Speaker 2: it's party limits. We have. We have a Republican and
40:48
Speaker 2: Democrat parties that view themselves to be the fourth and
40:53
Speaker 2: fifth branches of government, and that's wrong and we need
40:56
Speaker 2: to and this is you know, I've got to get
40:58
Speaker 2: back to Tom, he's on the line here. But President
41:01
Speaker 2: Jefferson started his own political party to challenge that we
41:06
Speaker 2: need to have. And this was the point of why
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Speaker 2: the world prior to the nineteen twenty nine Permanent Reapportionment Act,
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Speaker 2: you saw more and more congressional representation. You saw more
41:17
Speaker 2: and more people able to represent their communities because their
41:21
Speaker 2: communities were small and contiguous enough. And then you actually
41:26
Speaker 2: had turnover, and that was good. The parties didn't have
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Speaker 2: their favored people. Oh I know, we've got a guy
41:33
Speaker 2: on the inside on this committee or that committee because
41:38
Speaker 2: the quid pro quo equation had been taken out of
41:42
Speaker 2: the mix, and we've allowed this to be perverted by laziness,
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Speaker 2: and we can turn out. It just was talking a
41:48
Speaker 2: forty percent voter turnout. You know, where's the other sixty percent?
41:52
Speaker 2: That's where the answer is in those other fifty to
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Speaker 2: sixty percent.
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Speaker 9: Because people see that the same thing over and over
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Speaker 9: and over, and they a lot of people don't. I'm
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Speaker 9: not I've never been in this situation. I've always tried
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Speaker 9: to vote. But there's a lot of people like, well,
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Speaker 9: it doesn't matter anyway, because we still have the same
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Speaker 9: dummy in office.
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Speaker 2: And they're not given any choices because the parties pick.
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Speaker 2: And then you're like, well now it's the same old guy,
42:22
Speaker 2: or it's the crazy you know person that I disagree with,
42:25
Speaker 2: but it you know, if you're a Democrat, it's the
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Speaker 2: Republican who's crazy and dangerous and whatever else. And if
42:31
Speaker 2: you're a Republican, vice versa. And we never get anywhere
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Speaker 2: because we do have term limits. They're called elections every
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Speaker 2: few years, and we just don't get any choices in
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Speaker 2: those elections, and that's that's the bigger problem. Joel bless
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Speaker 2: you sir. You have a great day again soon you too,