Latest / Corpus Christi Originals Podcast / #64 | ill Niño [Dave, Laz, Rizzo, Miggy]
Transcript
- 0:00SPEAKER_07: What's going on, y'all?
- 0:00SPEAKER_07: Back at it again.
- 0:01SPEAKER_07: Cobus Christie Originals in the house.
- 0:03SPEAKER_07: Uh, real quick, get a shout out to El Vago Burger and Barbecue.
- 0:06SPEAKER_07: Uh, straight up Stoner Food, check them out 4701 Bareta Drive right there in Molina.
- 0:11SPEAKER_07: Appreciate you guys for joining the show today.
- 0:13SPEAKER_07: We got El Nino.
- 0:14SPEAKER_07: What's going on, fellas?
- 0:17SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 0:18SPEAKER_07: We got uh over here on the right hand side, my right, we got Les, Miggy, Dave, and Rizzo.
- 0:24SPEAKER_07: What's going on, fellas?
- 0:26SPEAKER_07: Thanks for coming through the show, man.
- 0:27SPEAKER_07: For real.
- 0:27SPEAKER_02: Thank you for having us.
- 0:28SPEAKER_02: I appreciate it, man.
- 0:29SPEAKER_07: Dude, it's dope.
- 0:30SPEAKER_07: Marcos came through and then he invited you guys.
- 0:32SPEAKER_07: Like, what?
- 0:32SPEAKER_07: Oh, hell yeah.
- 0:34SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's what's up.
- 0:35SPEAKER_01: And then we got Steve Marcos lied to us, man.
- 0:37SPEAKER_01: He told us they wanted the OGs, man.
- 0:40SPEAKER_01: We were all sued.
- 0:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's right.
- 0:42SPEAKER_01: We're the OGs.
- 0:44SPEAKER_07: You guys ain't just the OGs.
- 0:45SPEAKER_07: You guys are from the friggin' east side of America, man.
- 0:48SPEAKER_07: That's right.
- 0:48SPEAKER_07: New York.
- 0:49SPEAKER_01: New York, New Jersey.
- 0:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 0:51SPEAKER_01: New York City grew up New York.
- 0:52SPEAKER_01: Um, it's a Jersey-based band built in Hoboken, right?
- 0:56SPEAKER_01: Pretty much.
- 0:57SPEAKER_07: Is that why you wear that type of hat, Frank Sinatra?
- 1:00SPEAKER_01: You know, I listen.
- 1:01SPEAKER_01: I this is this is actually New York made hat right here.
- 1:04SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm faking the funk.
- 1:06SPEAKER_02: You're never gonna get a proud fucker.
- 1:08SPEAKER_02: You're never gonna get a prouder New Yorker ever in your life.
- 1:11SPEAKER_01: Then I really get a New York tattoo on your body.
- 1:13SPEAKER_01: Frank Sinatra.
- 1:16SPEAKER_02: You're gonna get a New York tattoo for real.
- 1:18SPEAKER_02: It's your next tattoo.
- 1:20SPEAKER_01: Look at me, man.
- 1:21SPEAKER_01: I fucking spew New York.
- 1:27SPEAKER_01: Only disgrace papayo some bread's dirty water dog.
- 1:30SPEAKER_02: And this motherfucker's hauled New Jersey boy right here.
- 1:33SPEAKER_02: Yeah, everything's Jersey.
- 1:35SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I love y'all's accent, man.
- 1:37SPEAKER_02: Thank you, man.
- 1:37SPEAKER_07: Can't forget our guest co-host Nick Lopez.
- 1:40SPEAKER_01: What up, Nick repins, little media for many?
- 1:42SPEAKER_02: Tommy real name.
- 1:43SPEAKER_02: Tom, you my name is Nick the Dick.
- 1:46SPEAKER_07: Alright, we got we got hold on hold on.
- 1:47SPEAKER_07: Oh shit.
- 1:48SPEAKER_07: We got the master of the house.
- 1:49SPEAKER_07: Hey, what's up, brother?
- 1:52SPEAKER_07: Oh, what?
- 1:53SPEAKER_07: What's up, my man?
- 1:57SPEAKER_07: Cumbia electronic dude.
- 1:59SPEAKER_07: One of the pioneers, bro.
- 2:01SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah.
- 2:02SPEAKER_01: It's a pleasure.
- 2:04SPEAKER_07: Yes.
- 2:05SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 2:06SPEAKER_07: We were both in new metal bands.
- 2:07SPEAKER_07: He was a DJ in one of the bands.
- 2:08SPEAKER_07: I was a guitar player in one of the bands.
- 2:10SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's it.
- 2:11SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 2:11SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 2:11SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 2:13SPEAKER_03: Nice meeting you, brother.
- 2:15SPEAKER_03: Nice meeting you, homie.
- 2:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:16SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 2:17SPEAKER_07: Yeah, man.
- 2:18SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 2:18SPEAKER_07: So speaking of the early days, man, you guys, uh, so the early days looking back, what specific moment or turning point made you realize that the band was going to be successful?
- 2:27SPEAKER_01: So getting I think getting that offer after three shows, right?
- 2:30SPEAKER_01: It was like after the three shows.
- 2:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we did.
- 2:32SPEAKER_02: We did we did one show actually, and then we had the record label, Roadrunner Records, come down.
- 2:37SPEAKER_02: Mike Gitter and uh Case Wessels, which is the owner of the label, came down to check us out at the second show.
- 2:44SPEAKER_02: And we had to fucking we had no band, basically.
- 2:46SPEAKER_02: It was just three of us at the time.
- 2:48SPEAKER_02: And uh remember that?
- 2:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and we had to cultivate a band out of our asses, you know.
- 2:54SPEAKER_07: Gothic slam?
- 2:55SPEAKER_02: No, that's 1990.
- 2:57SPEAKER_02: Probably.
- 2:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're talking earlier.
- 2:58SPEAKER_02: That's way back.
- 3:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, come on.
- 3:02SPEAKER_01: The original El Nino guitar player was actually the lead singer of Gothic Slam.
- 3:07SPEAKER_01: Lasted for two months, but he is nonetheless the original.
- 3:10SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 3:11SPEAKER_01: You know, Danny Gomez.
- 3:13SPEAKER_01: When the seed was planted.
- 3:15SPEAKER_02: But uh, we, you know, had a meeting with Mike Gitter, and Mike's like, hey, I want to see the band live, because they don't sign any bands unless they see them live first, you know.
- 3:23SPEAKER_02: And we uh came back to him and uh tour alt singer, and we were like, Man, we need to get a fucking band together.
- 3:30SPEAKER_02: We don't have a band.
- 3:31SPEAKER_02: And me and Laz were friends for years, and Laz is already working together because he had a recording studio, and I was working with his band because we've been friends for since we're teenagers, and I was producing his band, uh Brumhelda, and I was like, yo, come play bass for us because we we need to fucking we need to do a showcase, you know?
- 3:51SPEAKER_02: And then basically we stole members from other bands.
- 3:53SPEAKER_02: So remember Roger, we got Roger, he's a percussionist originally, and a singer in another band.
- 3:58SPEAKER_02: What's the name of the band he sang for?
- 4:00SPEAKER_02: Roger Reconstruction and Day of Pigs.
- 4:03SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 4:04SPEAKER_02: And we basically were like, yo, man, you know, can you fucking play with us?
- 4:07SPEAKER_02: And he's like, I can't commit.
- 4:09SPEAKER_02: And we're like, 30 days, give me 30 days.
- 4:11SPEAKER_02: We don't have a deal, you can fucking bounce.
- 4:13SPEAKER_02: And then we got Jardel.
- 4:14SPEAKER_02: What was Jardel's band?
- 4:15SPEAKER_02: Point for Hope.
- 4:16SPEAKER_02: Point for Hope.
- 4:17SPEAKER_02: Went to see him play in Newark, New Jersey, and he was fucking a badass motherfucker.
- 4:22SPEAKER_02: So we're like come with us 30 days again.
- 4:25SPEAKER_02: We did our show at the Bird Show, right?
- 4:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's right.
- 4:28SPEAKER_02: And then we did a show at Snow Corey.
- 4:30SPEAKER_02: Snow Core with Biohazard and Kitty.
- 4:32SPEAKER_02: Wow, we had to use.
- 4:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 4:35SPEAKER_02: And then that was the end, that was the end of that.
- 4:37SPEAKER_02: And we got a uh five album deal out of that that came there.
- 4:41SPEAKER_02: Did y'all know?
- 4:41SPEAKER_07: Did you know that you had to did you know that you had to change it up and put some of that Latin stuff in there?
- 4:46SPEAKER_07: We already had.
- 4:47SPEAKER_07: Oh, so it was already part of that.
- 4:48SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the demo that we actually handed in, we already had tons of percussion.
- 4:52SPEAKER_02: Damn, so it was already wow.
- 4:53SPEAKER_07: So you didn't have to like say a week.
- 4:55SPEAKER_02: We did that in El Nino, the original the original formation before it became El Nino with our old singer, our original singer for El Nino, his name is Jorge Rosato.
- 5:03SPEAKER_02: Yes, Marauder, right?
- 5:04SPEAKER_02: Yeah, from Marauder.
- 5:05SPEAKER_02: And uh we already had like you know, Latin percussion, but it was more metal, and it wasn't really active rock at all.
- 5:12SPEAKER_02: And then we just turned everything into like an active rock band, new metal band slash tribal percussion band.
- 5:18SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah, man.
- 5:19SPEAKER_07: When when I would look listen to the old the to stuff on CDs, I grew up on CDs and some kind of tapes.
- 5:24SPEAKER_07: I would always look at the band members and I would look for the one that had the Hispanic or Latino last name.
- 5:29SPEAKER_07: Like, oh, there's representation there.
- 5:31SPEAKER_07: Yeah, you guys are all and then the dudes from Texas, like I start seeing their last names, like, oh, that's more relatable.
- 5:37SPEAKER_07: You got uh Leal and Mickey's last name, and then I see y'all, I'm like, that's Latin, bro.
- 5:41SPEAKER_07: That that's not Mexican, like you know, like us.
- 5:44SPEAKER_07: Yeah, so uh is is y'all's roots from South America or I'm South America.
- 5:49SPEAKER_01: Well, last is Dominican, Puerto Rican, from New York, born and raised.
- 5:53SPEAKER_02: I was born in South America.
- 5:54SPEAKER_02: I was born in Lima, Peru when I was it came here when I was nine years old.
- 5:58SPEAKER_02: And um, yeah, so yeah, so is that a lot of the a lot of the you know the the like the album cover, the first album cover was uh a make-believe mummy made out of clay portraying a mummy that was found in South America back, yeah.
- 6:14SPEAKER_02: Remember that?
- 6:15SPEAKER_01: I'm so disappointed because I'm learning now for the first time that the mummy was fake.
- 6:19SPEAKER_01: I thought it was real.
- 6:22SPEAKER_07: Hey, we gotta provide something in the documentary.
- 6:25SPEAKER_02: It was uh it was a girl that they found with her legs crossed.
- 6:29SPEAKER_02: You don't remember that in Colombia?
- 6:30SPEAKER_02: I think Colombia, Chile, and they found her, and I was like, fuck, that's fucking gnarly, man.
- 6:35SPEAKER_02: They fucking mummified a girl alive, like that was fucked up.
- 6:38SPEAKER_02: Crazy, so you know, so I was like, let's let's do something like this.
- 6:42SPEAKER_02: But obviously, for copyright, you know, at that point it was like a natural geographic, it was all these different books, yeah, and uh for trademark issues we couldn't use it.
- 6:50SPEAKER_07: No, wait, wow.
- 6:51SPEAKER_02: And if we did want to use it, they probably would have fucking raped us on the price.
- 6:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 6:55SPEAKER_02: So we had a guy, a guy, Clay Patrick McBride, correct?
- 6:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah, put it together.
- 7:00SPEAKER_02: I can't believe remembering all these fucking names from 25 years ago.
- 7:03SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, but uh, he actually made the mummy out of clay and it looked exactly the fucking same.
- 7:08SPEAKER_02: I mean, after you saw the pictures, I was like, wow.
- 7:11SPEAKER_07: So is that is this the inspiration behind like the name of the tour they all are on now?
- 7:14SPEAKER_02: 25 years of Latin metal is 25 years of us bringing you know Latin metal music.
- 7:20SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because there's really no bands that are doing it, you know.
- 7:23SPEAKER_02: There's like two fucking bands, yeah, really.
- 7:26SPEAKER_02: One of them being the original Puya from Puerto Rico.
- 7:29SPEAKER_02: Um and uh Sepultura.
- 7:31SPEAKER_02: And Sevultura is not really Latin.
- 7:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're more tribal, tribal, Brazilian, yeah, tribal, but they're they're not Latin.
- 7:36SPEAKER_07: And they didn't start out with tribal stuff either.
- 7:38SPEAKER_07: It was more like thrash type of stuff.
- 7:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it started with thrash and they built into like the whole Brazilian tribal, like actual tribes.
- 7:46SPEAKER_02: That's what they worked with.
- 7:48SPEAKER_02: Nice.
- 7:48SPEAKER_07: That's awesome.
- 7:48SPEAKER_07: The evolution of sound and sound has evolved significantly over the years.
- 7:52SPEAKER_07: Can you pinpoint specific albums or songs where you feel the evolution was most prominent and explain why?
- 7:59SPEAKER_02: Um I think our third record was the more prominent was when we found a real sound, one inch on the ground.
- 8:06SPEAKER_02: Um you know, revolution revolution was was the most you know, we all just basically gathered and and bit a little bit of everything, you know, Latin music, metal music, new metal, even some hard roots, you know, the flamenco style that he brought to the band, which brought it over the top between the percussion and the flamenco style.
- 8:28SPEAKER_02: That's what separated us.
- 8:29SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, uh when our first record came out, two months in, we're we're doing six thousand copies a week.
- 8:35SPEAKER_02: We were doing twenty-five thousand records a month.
- 8:37SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 8:37SPEAKER_02: And then we went up to like nine thousand records a week, you know, towards the end of that of that album cycle.
- 8:43SPEAKER_07: Was it was it like time for that to come out, would you say, or it was just that was like you just threw it out there and we'll see what happens.
- 8:49SPEAKER_02: You know, yeah, it was it was it was experimental, of course, you know, like any like anything else.
- 8:54SPEAKER_02: You like this, you love this, and you take stuff that he likes, stuff that he likes, and you put it together and you and you come up with a formula and it can fucking work for him.
- 9:03SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's dope, dude.
- 9:04SPEAKER_07: That's awesome.
- 9:04SPEAKER_07: What's up?
- 9:04SPEAKER_07: Shout out you to Raul Garcia, Daniel Adame.
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: Adame, what's up, Dame?
- 9:09SPEAKER_01: That's our homie, Adame.
- 9:11SPEAKER_02: Chesska, what's up, mama?
- 9:12SPEAKER_02: Thank you for joining us.
- 9:12SPEAKER_02: Dami, put down the bottle, dog.
- 9:15SPEAKER_02: I better not see you like I saw you in Vegas a couple of days ago.
- 9:19SPEAKER_04: My man was no words explained.
- 9:26SPEAKER_07: Could you could you delve into deeper into the uh one or two of the moments that explain how they how the milestones have shaped the band's trajectory?
- 9:36SPEAKER_02: Um, you mean like an actual tour or a moment?
- 9:40SPEAKER_07: Uh like a career milestone.
- 9:42SPEAKER_07: It could be the couple, you know.
- 9:44SPEAKER_01: Well, I'll tell you, is a milestone is the fact that we've been around for freaking so long, man.
- 9:49SPEAKER_01: I could I mean 10 years was a milestone, and I never even dreamed of five.
- 9:54SPEAKER_01: I guess I knew the nature of the music business.
- 9:56SPEAKER_01: I try to play everything like it's my last, and I'm still trying to play everything like it's my other story.
- 10:01SPEAKER_01: Is you can't kill this fucking band.
- 10:03SPEAKER_01: And you know, it's bigger than any one of us here at the time.
- 10:06SPEAKER_06: That's on the new album, the new title, Immortals.
- 10:08SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 10:09SPEAKER_06: That's a sick ass fucking title.
- 10:10SPEAKER_06: I was telling Marcos on the last pod.
- 10:12SPEAKER_06: Hey, that's a sick ass fucking title.
- 10:14SPEAKER_02: Thank you, man.
- 10:14SPEAKER_06: Sick ass title for an album.
- 10:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then and then just to have for a little while there, you know, that was also something, you know, we didn't know where this was gonna end up, and Immortals was probably how we were gonna come back out and throw it down.
- 10:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but like you were saying, Mark Rizzo coming back to the fold was definitely a turning point for us as well.
- 10:36SPEAKER_02: Well, because now it's cherry on the reunited.
- 10:39SPEAKER_02: No kidding, bro.
- 10:40SPEAKER_02: We reunited the original fucking lineup, you know, and uh now you got three OGs in the band instead of two.
- 10:47SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 10:48SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 10:49SPEAKER_02: And uh even Danny Cordo being in the band, uh he's remotely he's in the band, but he's remotely, he's got other family situations that he's gotta take care of.
- 10:57SPEAKER_02: So he tours when he can, but he's on all our records.
- 11:02SPEAKER_02: He's part of the Alina band all day.
- 11:05SPEAKER_02: But one milestone, and I'll tell you, is me personally was when we did Ozfest and we in 2002, yeah, and we actually got to play with all like people that we looked up to, you know?
- 11:16SPEAKER_02: Like we actually played with some crazy fucking curves, town, player, slayer, yeah, it was fucking nuts, and we're like, dude, we're fucking our record was out not even not even six months, right?
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: Uh I uh at that time, yeah.
- 11:34SPEAKER_01: Not even a year.
- 11:35SPEAKER_02: Not even six months, and then we fucking were an OSFES, and we're like, wow, we're sharing stage with these all these motherfucking icons.
- 11:42SPEAKER_02: And we brought it, I tell you that.
- 11:44SPEAKER_02: We fucking smoked on the tour.
- 11:47SPEAKER_02: We came out like we were fucking like a life dependent on it.
- 11:50SPEAKER_01: You know how it is, man.
- 11:51SPEAKER_01: When you see those Latino boys walking down, man.
- 11:54SPEAKER_02: We hard workers, bro.
- 11:55SPEAKER_01: We bring it, we bring it, you know, we just bring it.
- 11:57SPEAKER_07: Yeah, all the eggs, yeah, all the egg comes out on stage.
- 12:01SPEAKER_07: How do you feel?
- 12:01SPEAKER_07: How do you feel about all this, Mickey?
- 12:03SPEAKER_03: Dude, it's dope, man.
- 12:04SPEAKER_03: It's been a drink and true for me.
- 12:05SPEAKER_03: So I really have nothing bad to say.
- 12:07SPEAKER_03: It's been like it's kind of hard to describe what happened, how it happened, but the journey for me going on three years, almost three years now.
- 12:14SPEAKER_02: We've been at a buffet.
- 12:18SPEAKER_03: The local coding corral.
- 12:29SPEAKER_03: No, no more, no more.
- 12:30SPEAKER_03: You need your money back, you go.
- 12:32SPEAKER_03: But uh, nah, man, it's been such a dream come true, dude.
- 12:35SPEAKER_03: It's been it's been an amazing journey.
- 12:37SPEAKER_02: Nigga's been such a positive force on the band, you know, and uh his positivity and his hard work.
- 12:43SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's a perfect fit for this band.
- 12:45SPEAKER_02: Great vocalist, too.
- 12:46SPEAKER_02: We've seen you in Brennan offensive.
- 12:50SPEAKER_02: Him and Marcus were great together, you know.
- 12:52SPEAKER_02: Like it's just it's like you couldn't rewrite this shit.
- 12:55SPEAKER_02: You really couldn't rewrite it, you know.
- 12:56SPEAKER_02: Mark coming back, you know, fucking Maggie being second vocalist and and and percussionist, and uh just the way everything is evolving.
- 13:04SPEAKER_02: It's it's like we're supposed to be that way.
- 13:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love playing with these guys.
- 13:08SPEAKER_01: These guys are all great.
- 13:09SPEAKER_01: I mean, Maggie is just not extremely talented, so right out of the gate, you know.
- 13:12SPEAKER_01: But he's also happens to be probably one of the most genuine human beings I know.
- 13:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, who's just very touchy people.
- 13:18SPEAKER_02: I don't like that.
- 13:19SPEAKER_07: He does, he does okay.
- 13:29SPEAKER_01: But these guys are all dynamite fucking players and they're so creative, you know.
- 13:33SPEAKER_01: Marco's voice, you know.
- 13:35SPEAKER_01: I mean, these Sil Nino songs have been sang like El Nino, like they've never have been since we recorded.
- 13:41SPEAKER_02: So and they're in key.
- 13:45SPEAKER_01: So so you know, it's just a pleasure.
- 13:48SPEAKER_01: And then, you know, everything just lined up, you know, the stars lined up, and and and even our reunion with Rizzo, you know, it was just like that was that was just that was the universe, the beginning of a new beginning.
- 13:59SPEAKER_01: Somehow the universe just you know just made it this way.
- 14:02SPEAKER_01: I truly feel that way.
- 14:04SPEAKER_01: It was an energy that just brought us together.
- 14:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because nothing was forced, the timing, you know, the timing, everything that we're just right, it was fucked up, nothing was forced.
- 14:11SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 14:12SPEAKER_02: It just everything was just laying in front of us, and that's the fucking path we took.
- 14:17SPEAKER_02: And it was like, what the fuck?
- 14:18SPEAKER_02: That's so weird that yeah, he's available, we want him in the band, he wants to be in the band, and then we move forward, and then like he's available.
- 14:26SPEAKER_02: Marcos decided to, you know, put Chatter's son to the side and concentrate on El Nino, and that's what we needed, you know.
- 14:33SPEAKER_02: I was like, when we me and him spoke at first, we're like, yo, this you have to be 100% all fucking in.
- 14:38SPEAKER_02: Because when we come out, we come out, you know, we don't fuck around.
- 14:41SPEAKER_02: Like we go on tour and a Wolverine tour, we put records out, we do it for real.
- 14:45SPEAKER_02: We don't we if I'm gonna ever do it fucking half-assed, I won't do it at all.
- 14:49SPEAKER_02: I'll save the fuck on.
- 14:50SPEAKER_07: How do you how do y'all how did you find your how do you find yourself like getting past the old singer gone and a new singer coming in?
- 14:58SPEAKER_07: Is it is it something that was easy to get over or is it something that's still sticking out?
- 15:02SPEAKER_02: It was in you know what it was inevitable.
- 15:04SPEAKER_02: It was inevitable.
- 15:05SPEAKER_02: It was gonna happen.
- 15:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it had to happen.
- 15:07SPEAKER_02: It's like almost like the best way that I can put it is like you're married and you used to do not see eye to eye with your wife, and it has to be done.
- 15:15SPEAKER_02: It has to be done.
- 15:16SPEAKER_02: There's things that cannot be repaired.
- 15:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, you know, you listen, it's a part of life, you know, and it happens, you know, and just sometimes it's just the way it is, and then you know, you accept it, you move on, you know.
- 15:27SPEAKER_01: Betrayal comes and you know, you can't let it hold you down.
- 15:31SPEAKER_05: When I heard Marcos was singing for the band, that was a big part of me wanting to be here too.
- 15:35SPEAKER_05: But uh I was a big fan of Marcos's vocals and Shattered Sun.
- 15:38SPEAKER_05: I toured with him, you know.
- 15:39SPEAKER_05: We used to hang out a lot, go to bars, yeah, party, you know, and so uh when I heard he got the gig, and I was like, This is dope.
- 15:48SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well, as a fan, when I when I first saw that, I was they trimmed me out.
- 15:52SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I mean when the news came out, I was like, what the fuck?
- 15:54SPEAKER_02: And again, I think Mark coming back like if if Christian was still in the band, he wouldn't have come back.
- 16:01SPEAKER_03: Yeah, true.
- 16:04SPEAKER_07: I I kind of figured out the other thing.
- 16:09SPEAKER_05: I'm excited for the future and working with Marcos, you know.
- 16:12SPEAKER_05: Miggy here, you know, these guys are killing it live.
- 16:15SPEAKER_05: So uh you know, it's a it's excited.
- 16:17SPEAKER_02: It's a it's it's a joint effort on all on all angles, you know what I mean?
- 16:21SPEAKER_02: It's uh like I said, you know, we're we're as strong as we all are together, you know, that's a fucking band.
- 16:28SPEAKER_01: In all honesty, you couldn't write this like a better book.
- 16:31SPEAKER_01: You know, I feel like I'm living like what a wonderful story that you know, and and don't get me wrong, one of the most uncomfortable situations in my life was dealing when those guys separated and they started creating a fake narrative, you know, and then your fans are turning on you, fans that I seen, you know, grow up with us, you know.
- 16:49SPEAKER_02: Someone that I've taken steal your name of your band.
- 16:52SPEAKER_01: People that people that I've taken care of, you know, and and and nourished them and made them feel a part of us, turn on you, you know, that hurts, you know.
- 17:01SPEAKER_01: And so that was a lot to like to bear at the time, but it was like, you know what, we're just gonna fucking drop bombs.
- 17:07SPEAKER_07: Have you always had that type of attitude?
- 17:09SPEAKER_07: Or I mean, has has your thought process in that way changed?
- 17:13SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 17:14SPEAKER_01: I never had that kind of betrayal in my life, you know.
- 17:17SPEAKER_01: All my friends, the majority of my friends are my friends I grew up with, you know.
- 17:20SPEAKER_01: We know we don't have we have each other's backs.
- 17:22SPEAKER_01: You know, that's the way the school I come from.
- 17:25SPEAKER_02: The reality is you can tell good people from from bad people is when how many old friends do you have?
- 17:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I mean?
- 17:33SPEAKER_02: Usually people that are not fucking good good people don't have many old friends or any friends, how's that?
- 17:39SPEAKER_02: I mean, so and I'm so friends with all I mean that's my childhood friend for 40 years.
- 17:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I mean?
- 17:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right on you man at two years old, man.
- 17:50SPEAKER_04: At a buffet, these guys are gonna be in a nursing home together.
- 17:59SPEAKER_03: You never seen the movie Life?
- 18:01SPEAKER_07: That's literally that's Dave and freaking so a songwriting dynamics.
- 18:10SPEAKER_07: Uh, you've spoken about the collaborative nature of your songwriting.
- 18:12SPEAKER_07: Could you share a specific example of a song that came through that came together in an unusual or particular memorable way?
- 18:19SPEAKER_02: Just typical, you know, linear fashion.
- 18:22SPEAKER_02: I mean, mascara was the first song we released.
- 18:24SPEAKER_02: Well, song second.
- 18:25SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, but I mean first reading.
- 18:26SPEAKER_01: First reading, real name back.
- 18:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was the first song.
- 18:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and mascara, I mean, everybody puts in, man, you know.
- 18:34SPEAKER_01: Uh Mascara came out, and I you know, even like stepping away, though, just to add, man, that just amped me up, man.
- 18:41SPEAKER_05: When I when I heard the new stuff, I was like, yo, this is this is crazy.
- 18:44SPEAKER_05: Seriously, all or nothing.
- 18:45SPEAKER_05: I was I was like, man, I'm getting chills just thinking of it.
- 18:48SPEAKER_05: I like the new stuff actually better than the old stuff.
- 18:49SPEAKER_06: Dude, when that that fucking breakdown comes in, when Marcos comes in with that fucking yo, son of a bitch, dude.
- 18:55SPEAKER_01: I was like, Well, that will be cracked.
- 18:58SPEAKER_01: But when that when Moscow came out, that's when the fan perception of the band started you know changing.
- 19:02SPEAKER_01: It's like, yo, you can't shit on this band.
- 19:04SPEAKER_01: This shit is dope.
- 19:05SPEAKER_01: You know, maybe you're just gonna shit on the band, you're just talking shit.
- 19:09SPEAKER_01: And then people were calling you out for talking shit.
- 19:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, it actually started creating a whole new interest for the band.
- 19:15SPEAKER_02: And let me let me let me know.
- 19:16SPEAKER_01: Well, I want to add one more thing because you know there was the one more thing that and then so you know, it's like a triumphant return, right?
- 19:23SPEAKER_01: And then a few months later, Mark joins the band, rejoins the band, and we drop another single, and just that listening to that solo on that record is just to me, it's making such a strong point.
- 19:37SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, this is over.
- 19:40SPEAKER_01: And it was really like yo, this is that that that to me was the nail on the fucking coffin.
- 19:47SPEAKER_07: I was surprised I actually hear a solo.
- 19:50SPEAKER_07: Y'all stuff doesn't have a lot of solos.
- 19:51SPEAKER_07: Would y'all say that?
- 19:52SPEAKER_02: It doesn't, it doesn't be even that's even the early stuff.
- 19:54SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but I I charge per note, so that's no bills to pay.
- 20:02SPEAKER_01: So yeah, but you know, a lot of the people don't realize that Mark Grayson's not just about the the the legs and all that stuff, it's the other other little things that he does that it layers on top.
- 20:12SPEAKER_01: How much money you give him?
- 20:13SPEAKER_01: You know, that just well, I'm I'm giving you that.
- 20:16SPEAKER_01: I'm giving you a big thing.
- 20:18SPEAKER_02: Don't stop.
- 20:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I I I mean I because I I you know you listen, I'm a fan of music, you know, and when my own music fucking drives me when I I I don't even see myself in the band, I just hear the music, I just hear what it makes me feel, and you know, it's speaking to me when and I think that that's sincere, it's genuine.
- 20:43SPEAKER_02: To to me, when this the whole change happened, I went to to a time where you know the lawsuits came and blah blah blah, and we retaliated and fucking crushed motherfuckers, right?
- 20:55SPEAKER_02: And it was a little bit like saddening in the beginning because it's like this is people that you took care of, and that you looked out.
- 21:02SPEAKER_02: And and then you know, they turned on you, but and you know what?
- 21:06SPEAKER_02: I wish them the fucking best.
- 21:07SPEAKER_02: I really, really I wish them the best.
- 21:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah, God bless them all.
- 21:12SPEAKER_02: I couldn't be any happier on what what we're we're fucking accomplishing right now.
- 21:15SPEAKER_01: I can't imagine life anyway.
- 21:16SPEAKER_02: We're on all major festivals, we know we are on every festival on all the Danny Wimmer festivals.
- 21:22SPEAKER_02: We're in incarceration, we're on fucking, you know, uh Silda one.
- 21:28SPEAKER_02: Uh what's the other one we're on?
- 21:31SPEAKER_02: Incarceration, Aftershock, Loud of the Life.
- 21:34SPEAKER_02: And you know, these are not there's a thousand bands that tried to get on these festivals and they hone it down to like seventy, eighty bands.
- 21:43SPEAKER_07: Wow.
- 21:43SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 21:44SPEAKER_02: And we're gone all three festivals this year.
- 21:47SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 21:47SPEAKER_02: So I mean for us it's like we we we're not going fucking anywhere.
- 21:53SPEAKER_02: You know, we were and and and I wasn't gonna say before when when you interrupted me was anyone who said anything Has always turned around a month later, two months later, and started kissing ass.
- 22:06SPEAKER_02: You know?
- 22:06SPEAKER_02: Because they're fucking keyboard jockeys.
- 22:08SPEAKER_02: People talk shit and then they try to get a rise out of you, and I just tell them to fuck off.
- 22:13SPEAKER_02: And then we just say with our music.
- 22:14SPEAKER_02: And we come on, we're like, Well, what what what do you gotta say?
- 22:17SPEAKER_02: Like, are you gonna talk about all the festivals that we're on?
- 22:20SPEAKER_02: All the tours that we're on, or what do you want to talk about?
- 22:22SPEAKER_02: You know, 20 million fucking streams.
- 22:26SPEAKER_02: What do you want to talk about?
- 22:27SPEAKER_05: Like I said, I I like the news I like the new stuff better than the old stuff, honestly.
- 22:31SPEAKER_05: That's yeah.
- 22:31SPEAKER_07: How do y'all handle uh creative differences?
- 22:34SPEAKER_07: Um there's disagreements within the band.
- 22:36SPEAKER_07: Can you uh describe a specific instance where differing opinions led to a better final product?
- 22:43SPEAKER_02: Everybody's entitled to their opinion, everyone has uh different styles and different things they they want to bring, but everybody brings something to the to the you know to the pole.
- 22:52SPEAKER_02: And it really there is really isn't uh uh arguments, you know?
- 22:56SPEAKER_02: There's not there's more like hey, you have I have this idea, yeah, and you're free, you have free reign to bring your idea.
- 23:02SPEAKER_07: Are you are y'all comfortable enough to be like, hey man, I really it's not driving like absolutely you have to be like fucking pick skinned.
- 23:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, you know, this is the way life is not just music business, but life is so that way.
- 23:13SPEAKER_02: You can't try to tell it, then why the fuck are you doing this?
- 23:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and this band though, we we we know we don't just knock it down, we want to try it first and then you know see what we can do with it first.
- 23:25SPEAKER_01: Because I if someone is very adamant about the a creative idea, I think out of respect you take into consideration and do all you even when like that when he he says I want to try it.
- 23:34SPEAKER_02: I already know I'm gonna say no, but I let him try it.
- 23:38SPEAKER_03: That's you though.
- 23:39SPEAKER_04: That's you, but no, no, no.
- 23:42SPEAKER_03: It's a but there's a sense of maturity to answer your question.
- 23:44SPEAKER_03: There's a sense of maturity that's like coming into the band.
- 23:47SPEAKER_03: Like with the new record, there's a lot of stuff I got to have input in and do some stuff.
- 23:50SPEAKER_03: It was dope, but I know at the end of the day, this isn't my band.
- 23:54SPEAKER_03: So out of respect for the OGs, if they say, hey man, it's not gonna work, cool, it's not gonna work.
- 23:59SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 24:01SPEAKER_03: But I think there's a lot of musicians that lack that type of maturity where it's like, yo, you can tell them no without them getting a lot of money.
- 24:06SPEAKER_01: I mean listen, everybody in our band is a world-class player, so you know, it's just a matter of whether the idea works for El Nino, as yeah, you know, in the Latin metal genre, if we can make it pop.
- 24:16SPEAKER_07: Right.
- 24:17SPEAKER_07: So y'all obviously have a certain sound.
- 24:19SPEAKER_07: Is that the reason why y'all decide to have like side projects?
- 24:22SPEAKER_07: Because all of y'all got stuff going on on the side.
- 24:24SPEAKER_01: I just everyone is just musical and they fill up their spare time with music.
- 24:28SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, that's just what everybody here does.
- 24:30SPEAKER_02: I mean, his band Relent, fucking amazing band.
- 24:33SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, and like and all the stuff that he does and all the solo stuff that he does.
- 24:38SPEAKER_02: I mean, he goes out and tours on his own.
- 24:40SPEAKER_01: When I'm home, I'm producing, you know, a lot of bands, a lot of local bands, some national bands, a couple of hardcore bands from New York that I work with, you know.
- 24:49SPEAKER_07: Just part, just a part of the game, a part of the the musician.
- 24:52SPEAKER_02: All our priorities, you know.
- 24:53SPEAKER_02: We all know where we stand and we communicate.
- 24:56SPEAKER_02: You know, we talk about shit and let each other know, like, hey, this is really important.
- 25:00SPEAKER_02: I got this coming coming up or whatever, and that's cool.
- 25:02SPEAKER_02: And we try to work around and we do what we can.
- 25:04SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I was gonna say, like, how do you how do you feel about the other members having because there's some bands that I think you you mentioned in one of the one of the uh one of the interviews I was listening to, how I think it was Soulfly or whichever band, Machine Head, or I can't remember which interview, but what the they didn't want y'all to to have side projects.
- 25:21SPEAKER_07: Is that how it was?
- 25:23SPEAKER_05: Uh yeah, that probably, but I I don't remember ever saying that, but yeah, definitely.
- 25:26SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and you know what?
- 25:27SPEAKER_07: It was it was a rue.
- 25:28SPEAKER_07: I was listening to his interview he was saying when he's with Machine Head.
- 25:31SPEAKER_07: So I was looking at that.
- 25:33SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I was like, Yeah, well, it's just trying to just kind of get a grasp of it.
- 25:38SPEAKER_02: All good.
- 25:38SPEAKER_07: Y'all underground, you know, so it's awesome, man.
- 25:41SPEAKER_07: Wow.
- 25:41SPEAKER_07: So the the latest album, uh, y'all had y'all have the four that are uh that are out.
- 25:46SPEAKER_07: Uh, can you discuss any tracks that have evolved significantly from their initial versions and what change changes were made?
- 25:53SPEAKER_02: It's it's 100% El Nino, you know.
- 25:56SPEAKER_02: Uh the stuff is definitely a lot more modern.
- 25:58SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, you gotta keep up with the times, man.
- 26:00SPEAKER_02: You can't you can't just put the same album out over and over.
- 26:04SPEAKER_02: We're not fucking ACDC.
- 26:06SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 26:08SPEAKER_02: They're super fucking talented, and that's their that's their thing.
- 26:12SPEAKER_02: You know, there's like a lot of bands like the Ramones that just have uh the same song and the same song in 50 different ways, and it works for them.
- 26:21SPEAKER_02: And you know, no all those fucking songs are great.
- 26:24SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 26:24SPEAKER_02: It's fucked up.
- 26:26SPEAKER_02: It's like, but uh yeah, we have to we have to move with the time, so you can't just put the same record out again.
- 26:31SPEAKER_02: That's why, you know, I think that we incorporate everything that we've used before, land percussions, samples, flamenco guitar.
- 26:38SPEAKER_01: I mean that's something that we always aim for on the record, our natural evolution of the band from album to album, you know, give them a different flavor.
- 26:45SPEAKER_02: It's definitely a heavier anvil, it's definitely heavier, it's definitely hookier, you know, and it definitely touches a lot of different styles, you know.
- 26:54SPEAKER_02: It covers the entire spectrum.
- 26:55SPEAKER_02: There's songs on the album that are heavy as fuck.
- 26:57SPEAKER_02: There's songs on the album that are super memorable and very, very mellow, singy, you know.
- 27:02SPEAKER_07: What can you say something, man?
- 27:04SPEAKER_03: No, I'm just I'm thinking about the we were jamming the stuff on the bus, like just the rough of what's coming out and stuff like that.
- 27:10SPEAKER_03: Oh, nice.
- 27:10SPEAKER_03: It's so dope.
- 27:11SPEAKER_06: Don't even like that, dude.
- 27:12SPEAKER_03: Don't tease me, yeah.
- 27:13SPEAKER_03: I don't think people are ready for what's about to come out.
- 27:15SPEAKER_03: No, we're not ready, they're ready, bro.
- 27:17SPEAKER_03: I know everyone says that it's like the cliche theme, but I'm like looking back at the history of the band and knowing what's to come.
- 27:22SPEAKER_03: It's like, bro, this is about to be this would be dope, man.
- 27:25SPEAKER_07: Uh themes play a big role in your albums.
- 27:27SPEAKER_07: How would you go about choosing how how do you go about choosing themes?
- 27:31SPEAKER_07: And do do they reflect any personal or global issues you feel passionate about?
- 27:35SPEAKER_02: Themes and songs writing, or themes as uh titles?
- 27:38SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it could be like a song or it could be a whole album.
- 27:41SPEAKER_02: It depends what every whoever brings that to the table.
- 27:43SPEAKER_02: I mean, sometimes we may be in the writing process, or he may bring an idea to the table or last, whoever, and then we kind of work from there and move forward with that idea.
- 27:54SPEAKER_02: And then it turns into something else.
- 27:55SPEAKER_02: Sometimes it turns into something that that's what they wanted originally, and sometimes it doesn't, you know.
- 28:01SPEAKER_01: It's a compromise, you know, but uh that's at the end of the day, that compromise ill menial.
- 28:06SPEAKER_02: That's the key word, and including when when Mark and I and our past single, we were doing all this all the stuff of revolution, it's the same thing, there's compromises, you know, because you you're never gonna see eye to eye in every fucking riff and every single arrangement.
- 28:22SPEAKER_02: It's not gonna happen.
- 28:24SPEAKER_02: It's not gonna happen.
- 28:25SPEAKER_02: There's never gonna be two of the same person.
- 28:27SPEAKER_07: Do y'all compose in like the same key every time?
- 28:29SPEAKER_07: Like, do y'all find yourselves in the same key all the time?
- 28:32SPEAKER_07: No, we change it.
- 28:34SPEAKER_01: I mean if you listen to the album.
- 28:38SPEAKER_05: Yes, I could catch it.
- 28:39SPEAKER_05: Now we're down to like B and some stuff down to A.
- 28:42SPEAKER_01: Sometimes and some stuff to G.
- 28:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 28:44SPEAKER_05: And you read isn't a lot of drive.
- 28:46SPEAKER_05: Oh G, that's why.
- 28:47SPEAKER_05: Oh, G we find that chicks dig G.
- 28:52SPEAKER_05: Oh, all right, right.
- 28:53SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
- 28:54SPEAKER_05: He likes playing leads because he thinks that you know, girls like leads.
- 28:57SPEAKER_05: Well, leads are the most important part of a song, everyone knows.
- 29:01SPEAKER_04: Everybody knows it's the bass group.
- 29:03SPEAKER_02: They're right to the solo.
- 29:05SPEAKER_02: If it was up to him, it would be like lead versus lead or can't I get paid per note, so the math, you know.
- 29:15SPEAKER_07: Get comfortable.
- 29:16SPEAKER_07: I'm doing the lead.
- 29:18SPEAKER_07: Man, so we'll just talk about I didn't have you in here, Meg, man.
- 29:22SPEAKER_07: I thought you were uh so uh Dave, Jave, Dave Chavari, we got Laz Pina and then Mark Rizzo.
- 29:27SPEAKER_07: We're gonna kind of touch on you guys' stuff.
- 29:29SPEAKER_07: Jave, uh leadership role.
- 29:31SPEAKER_07: You you emphasize you've emphasized the importance of leadership within the I well then we can skip that.
- 29:35SPEAKER_07: Uh, can you share a specific example of a decision you made that was particularly challenging but ultimately beneficial for El Nino?
- 29:44SPEAKER_02: Not being with the ex-members.
- 29:47SPEAKER_02: That was a decision that, believe it or not, and I'll I'll say it out in the open, I don't really give a fuck.
- 29:52SPEAKER_02: It was something that I wanted to do much earlier.
- 29:55SPEAKER_02: And because of this man, because he's more of a pacifist, he tried to keep everyone at bay and he was like, hey, give people chances, you know.
- 30:02SPEAKER_02: But I mean, how many chances can you do?
- 30:04SPEAKER_01: I did that for 15 years, man.
- 30:06SPEAKER_07: Bro, I would have been freaking pissed if they were trying to take the name from me, dude.
- 30:10SPEAKER_07: I would have been freaking like, oh my god.
- 30:12SPEAKER_02: I mean, like how do you how you know how do you how do you look at somebody in the face of the band that you began since day one?
- 30:18SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 30:19SPEAKER_02: And and try to to through the you know, saying that shit.
- 30:25SPEAKER_02: How do you go?
- 30:25SPEAKER_02: But it's okay, but you know what?
- 30:27SPEAKER_01: It's like Zach Wilde trying to speak Lazie Osborne's.
- 30:30SPEAKER_01: You know what?
- 30:30SPEAKER_02: It's okay because it let to me I I try to be positive about it.
- 30:34SPEAKER_02: It led us to being here.
- 30:35SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
- 30:35SPEAKER_02: And that's all I give a fuck about.
- 30:37SPEAKER_02: The present.
- 30:38SPEAKER_02: The past is the past.
- 30:39SPEAKER_02: I I I'm I'm cool with it, whatever.
- 30:40SPEAKER_02: It happened, it happened.
- 30:41SPEAKER_02: It made me a stronger person.
- 30:43SPEAKER_02: It made me more fucking you move on.
- 30:44SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you move on.
- 30:45SPEAKER_02: You move on, you go to the next step.
- 30:47SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think about it, believe me, that happened in fucking 2019.
- 30:52SPEAKER_02: I was trying to make it happen since 2015.
- 30:55SPEAKER_02: Things things were not good.
- 30:59SPEAKER_07: Did you uh did you ever like have like actual physical fights at one point?
- 31:03SPEAKER_02: No, we never it never got it never got like that because more growing up.
- 31:16SPEAKER_05: The midget bites, yo.
- 31:17SPEAKER_07: So how do you integrate so your drumming technique has well the the style has changed from since the first album to the newer album?
- 31:28SPEAKER_07: Like the first one's real, like I want to say soul flash, I don't know what to call it or whatever.
- 31:34SPEAKER_07: Um how do you integrate uh diverse influences into your drumming for El Niño?
- 31:39SPEAKER_02: Again, you try to keep it modern, you know, you have to have an open ear on what's happening in music, as well as you know how far are you gonna dissolve your style by not stepping away from your original style and still keep up with the times.
- 31:54SPEAKER_02: And that's really important.
- 31:56SPEAKER_02: A lot of parents they try to copy somebody else's or drumming styles and that's fucked up, that's stupid.
- 32:02SPEAKER_02: Because you just just taking away your originality and just throwing it down the fucking drain.
- 32:06SPEAKER_07: You know, well, so you really gotta practice at it to put it on the street.
- 32:09SPEAKER_02: No, you just have to be you have to be mindful and you have to be uh prepared.
- 32:13SPEAKER_02: You have to have to really look at your plan and and be like, okay, what the fuck is needed for this song?
- 32:18SPEAKER_02: You know, because it ain't about me.
- 32:19SPEAKER_02: It's I I'm not trying to fucking show off.
- 32:21SPEAKER_02: I could give a fuck about showing off, you know what I mean?
- 32:24SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 32:24SPEAKER_07: So balancing roles, both the drummer and a leader, uh, what strategies do you use to manage these roles effectively, especially during times of band college?
- 32:32SPEAKER_02: A lot of yelling.
- 32:34SPEAKER_07: I was really about to say that.
- 32:36SPEAKER_02: No, you know what?
- 32:38SPEAKER_02: It's just uh again, you just have to be somewhat organized mentally.
- 32:42SPEAKER_02: You have to have a drive.
- 32:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, getting everyone on the same page, you know.
- 32:47SPEAKER_01: You know, if you discuss your ideas prior, you know, and plant the seed so that later on it doesn't stray, you know.
- 32:53SPEAKER_01: So I think it's if everyone stays on the same page, which is difficult in itself.
- 32:57SPEAKER_02: Communication is super fucking important because you know, you can't you don't know what other person's thinking, you know.
- 33:03SPEAKER_02: Like even like I don't talk to him for a month or whatever, I still text them and say, hey, what's up?
- 33:07SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 33:08SPEAKER_02: And the same thing with me and Mickey talk all the time, me and Lass talk all the time.
- 33:11SPEAKER_02: Even if we don't we go 30 days to 40 years without talking, I still you always check in.
- 33:16SPEAKER_02: Just check in, there you fucking hold.
- 33:18SPEAKER_07: Do you ever look at it like that?
- 33:24SPEAKER_01: I'm always working back home where I work with a lot of young bands.
- 33:28SPEAKER_01: Sorry for me to answer the phones, and it always comes when I'm the busiest and I can't like tend to it, you know.
- 33:34SPEAKER_03: He knows the answer all the time because every time you call me, what am I doing?
- 33:37SPEAKER_03: You always get mad at me.
- 33:38SPEAKER_02: I'll answer everything.
- 33:40SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 33:40SPEAKER_02: This guy's gonna start wearing diapers at a fucking early age.
- 33:44SPEAKER_02: It's always fitting, bro.
- 33:49SPEAKER_02: The bus pulls up to a gas station.
- 33:50SPEAKER_02: We're gassing up who's the motherfucker that's missing?
- 33:53SPEAKER_02: This guy taking the shit.
- 33:57SPEAKER_01: Listen, there's a saying in Spanish.
- 33:58SPEAKER_01: You guys speak Spanish?
- 33:59SPEAKER_01: That says así como el mulo, así caga el culo.
- 34:04SPEAKER_04: That's not true.
- 34:05SPEAKER_04: That's not true.
- 34:06SPEAKER_03: I get motion sickness on the bus.
- 34:08SPEAKER_03: My stomach's all messed up.
- 34:09SPEAKER_03: Why don't you just shit on the bus, dude?
- 34:11SPEAKER_03: What's the problem?
- 34:13SPEAKER_03: I don't play enough leagues to have enough money to pay for the feed.
- 34:17SPEAKER_01: Yo, it's the bus, right?
- 34:18SPEAKER_01: It's not the you know, the water burger, the KFC.
- 34:23SPEAKER_01: The ramen noodles.
- 34:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was dope.
- 34:27SPEAKER_07: The coffee.
- 34:28SPEAKER_07: Yeah, how do y'all do y'all like take actual food on the bus or do you like stop places to eat?
- 34:32SPEAKER_02: We eat we eat a both right.
- 34:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we eat on the bus.
- 34:36SPEAKER_01: We have a fridge, we have two fridge on this thing.
- 34:38SPEAKER_01: Microwave.
- 34:39SPEAKER_01: Two fridges we got.
- 34:41SPEAKER_02: Two fridges.
- 34:42SPEAKER_02: Two few fridges.
- 34:50SPEAKER_02: It's a big M in front of it.
- 34:53SPEAKER_07: Shout out to everybody on TikTok.
- 34:56SPEAKER_07: Thanks for joining on YouTube, you guys.
- 34:57SPEAKER_07: Thanks a lot.
- 34:58SPEAKER_07: What's up, Adrian?
- 34:58SPEAKER_07: Lori, thanks for coming in.
- 34:59SPEAKER_07: Yeah, Daniel Adame, thanks for checking the audio for us, man.
- 35:02SPEAKER_07: How's it how's it sounding, man?
- 35:04SPEAKER_07: Sounded good.
- 35:06SPEAKER_02: That's what's up.
- 35:06SPEAKER_02: You gotta be using those Mexican microphones.
- 35:11SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 35:13SPEAKER_07: Uh yeah, again, you gotta check out uh El Vago Burger Barbecue 4701, but in a drive.
- 35:19SPEAKER_07: Yeah, all right.
- 35:20SPEAKER_07: Get to try the Turzilla or the El Wapo.
- 35:22SPEAKER_02: Tom to brings drop off some barbecue.
- 35:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh yeah, dude.
- 35:27SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's not yeah, El Vago.
- 35:29SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's it's called El Vago Burger and Barbecue.
- 35:32SPEAKER_07: Uh it's not traditional barbecue, like he'll put uh patty, dude.
- 35:36SPEAKER_07: It's and it's not healthy food either.
- 35:38SPEAKER_07: Uh so he'll put patty, uh chopped brisket, a layer of brisket, cheese.
- 35:44SPEAKER_07: Got your fucking name on it.
- 35:45SPEAKER_07: And then dude, we would love to do it.
- 35:46SPEAKER_07: Oh my god, yeah.
- 35:47SPEAKER_07: I'll show y'all the pictures.
- 35:49SPEAKER_02: I'll show them as a picture.
- 35:50SPEAKER_02: Bring us a book.
- 35:51SPEAKER_07: I'll call him, I'll call him and see if we can bring you guys some for real for the show.
- 35:56SPEAKER_02: Come on, man.
- 35:56SPEAKER_02: I'll give him a coffee.
- 35:59SPEAKER_01: You've got to be brave to eat that stuff.
- 36:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah, bro.
- 36:12SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's what's up, man.
- 36:14SPEAKER_07: So Laz, you've been playing bass with the band since basically since its inception.
- 36:18SPEAKER_07: Uh, so your bass lines, do your bass lines at all shine at all?
- 36:22SPEAKER_07: Or uh what was I gonna say?
- 36:24SPEAKER_07: Uh can can you share an example of a song where the bass line came from?
- 36:28SPEAKER_07: Significantly and so I guess like if you're a bassist, you're probably a producer too.
- 36:32SPEAKER_01: You know what?
- 36:32SPEAKER_01: I mean, I just put the my flavor and I try to groove, you know.
- 36:35SPEAKER_01: I I think that throughout the years of playing with Dave, I started just, you know, uh it kind of molded me into like bass drums marriage, you know, follow that kick snare.
- 36:43SPEAKER_01: You know, right out.
- 36:44SPEAKER_01: I always think of the rhythms differently, you know, try not trying to play guitar parts, but mainly trying to move with drums, you know.
- 36:52SPEAKER_02: He brings a Latin essence to his bass playing, and that's what I think also adds to the El Nino sound, just like the flamenco stuff.
- 36:59SPEAKER_07: So y'all have to have that kind of chemistry uh as being part of the band.
- 37:02SPEAKER_07: Would you say that?
- 37:03SPEAKER_02: We all know it.
- 37:04SPEAKER_02: We all know it's a we've been playing so long together that we kind of know how we're gonna play.
- 37:08SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 37:09SPEAKER_02: It's it's a weird it's a weird to explain.
- 37:11SPEAKER_02: Like, I know some notes he I know where he's gonna take something sometimes without without even talking about it.
- 37:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just the chemistry I've had since it's been so fucking long, you know.
- 37:21SPEAKER_07: Uh so tour memories, can you tell us about a particular challenging, rewarding tour experience that had a lasting impact on you?
- 37:28SPEAKER_02: We can't talk about past sexual experiences.
- 37:30SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
- 37:30SPEAKER_02: But but we can talk about it.
- 37:34SPEAKER_01: Uh there's you know, again, those the experiences of just playing with some of your heroes and some of your favorite bands.
- 37:39SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'll tell you one experience that I know you bugged out on.
- 37:42SPEAKER_02: When we played Rock and Ring and we played with uh the cure.
- 37:47SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 37:47SPEAKER_02: And I know because he's a huge I'm a cure fan, but not really this motherfucker is a huge cure fan.
- 37:52SPEAKER_02: And I remember him coming up, he's like, yo, the cure's playing right across from us.
- 37:56SPEAKER_02: You know, we just finished playing our play.
- 37:59SPEAKER_02: Wow, they sent it out.
- 38:02SPEAKER_01: I I literally, I literally just I ran from the stage after the show and ran to that stage and danced for all night long in my own.
- 38:13SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's awesome.
- 38:14SPEAKER_05: We played with Slayer, yeah.
- 38:15SPEAKER_05: But right before Slayer, that was yeah, that was in Italy.
- 38:18SPEAKER_05: Oh, Osfest.
- 38:18SPEAKER_05: No, we did all of Ozfest in Europe, remember?
- 38:21SPEAKER_05: We went all before Slayer like five times.
- 38:22SPEAKER_02: I think it's for me.
- 38:24SPEAKER_05: That was a dream come true.
- 38:25SPEAKER_05: Slayers.
- 38:25SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there you go.
- 38:26SPEAKER_02: I knew you like who Metallica was also a big deal to be playing Metallica download.
- 38:31SPEAKER_02: Like we're playing right before Slayer on the same fucking stage.
- 38:33SPEAKER_02: Slayer same stage, two of them.
- 38:35SPEAKER_05: That was intimidating, right?
- 38:37SPEAKER_05: Intimidating, but exciting.
- 38:38SPEAKER_05: I mean, the minute we were done with our show, I was outside the stage watching.
- 38:42SPEAKER_02: We just opened up for Metallica in France, help us.
- 38:45SPEAKER_02: That was you know, which we don't download.
- 38:47SPEAKER_02: We just did a bunch of shows with Megadeth.
- 38:49SPEAKER_02: That was amazing, you know?
- 38:50SPEAKER_06: Dude, all these festivals y'all are hitting on dude are fucking.
- 38:54SPEAKER_07: So this is for your first time really seeing all because they seen it they seen it, yeah.
- 38:59SPEAKER_03: Yeah, my first my first year in the band was like immediately.
- 39:02SPEAKER_03: We did US immediately Europe too, where it was like, yo, what the heck?
- 39:07SPEAKER_03: 100,000 people looking at you.
- 39:08SPEAKER_02: Like, I used to fuck with them because I know like Marcos a little, a little nervous, a little nervous, and I used to fuck with them because I don't get nervous anymore.
- 39:15SPEAKER_02: I haven't gotten nervous for fucking 30 years.
- 39:17SPEAKER_02: I fuck with Marcos and be like, yo, that's 80,000 people out there.
- 39:21SPEAKER_02: Don't fuck with me, dude.
- 39:23SPEAKER_02: 80,000 motherfuckers don't fuck up.
- 39:25SPEAKER_02: You wear your diaper today?
- 39:28SPEAKER_01: It brings a it brought a new excitement for for us.
- 39:31SPEAKER_01: I mean, for me, especially, you know, watching the New York Cats or even Miggie in France, you know, looking around, like, what do I eat?
- 39:44SPEAKER_02: Where's a big day at?
- 39:45SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, dude, there's a hole on the floor.
- 39:48SPEAKER_02: How do you shit in here?
- 39:50SPEAKER_02: The way France is.
- 39:52SPEAKER_02: There was a dumb table.
- 39:53SPEAKER_02: There's a like a hole on the floor.
- 39:56SPEAKER_02: You got a pay.
- 39:57SPEAKER_02: You got a pay.
- 40:04SPEAKER_01: Maggie and Marcos had never even seen a bidet.
- 40:20SPEAKER_01: A bidet?
- 40:21SPEAKER_01: What is it?
- 40:21SPEAKER_01: I gotta try it.
- 40:23SPEAKER_05: You got a bidet on the bus now, actually.
- 40:30SPEAKER_01: He was telling me the other day that during COVID, it was like, nah, man, I ain't gonna wait for this toilet paper to run out.
- 40:35SPEAKER_01: I went out and bought a bidet.
- 40:37SPEAKER_01: And I was like, are you serious?
- 40:38SPEAKER_01: And he's like, Yeah, but I just took it out, man.
- 40:40SPEAKER_01: I was supposed to be using it anymore.
- 40:45SPEAKER_04: Throw it out of the way.
- 40:48SPEAKER_03: There's so many tour stories that we'd have to have an whole other podcast just on Tuesday.
- 40:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's been uh it's just been everything has been it's been uphill, you know, since the inception, the new inception, everything's just been positive, positive to positive.
- 41:01SPEAKER_02: There's been no negative shit, you know.
- 41:03SPEAKER_07: So you say you so you were saying that uh about the newer guys coming and that that it kind of helped you guys, like I guess like Spark or whatever.
- 41:10SPEAKER_07: Yes, yes, it sparked that.
- 41:13SPEAKER_01: So like you're doing it all over again, and it was a certain magic.
- 41:16SPEAKER_07: So like newer sound, newer music, newer, newer collaboration, newer newer attitude.
- 41:20SPEAKER_02: Like, listen, before I and I'll say it again, I I I really I'm not afraid to speak my mind.
- 41:24SPEAKER_02: I really don't again don't give a fuck.
- 41:26SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 41:27SPEAKER_02: But the last 10 years when we were in a bus, it was like it was a fucking it it it you just walked into the bus and you sighed because you're like here we go again.
- 41:37SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 41:38SPEAKER_02: It was just like a not a good vibe, and you know you've dealt with that shit.
- 41:42SPEAKER_02: And you know, and you walk in and it's like oh man.
- 41:45SPEAKER_02: But now it's like you start a tour and you know you're gonna have a good fucking time.
- 41:49SPEAKER_02: We're gonna go out there and crush.
- 41:50SPEAKER_02: That's everyone's main concern.
- 41:53SPEAKER_02: To go out there and fucking demolish, you know.
- 41:55SPEAKER_02: But the 23 hours that you're not on stage are a lot easier when people you enjoy people's company, that's right, and when you're fucking friends with people, you can have conversations and you can have meals together, yeah, and then you can fuck around.
- 42:08SPEAKER_02: That's good for that.
- 42:09SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 42:11SPEAKER_07: Wow, that's yeah, I can tell you.
- 42:13SPEAKER_02: But that's it's a big difference, man.
- 42:14SPEAKER_02: You know, it makes you not want to go on tour.
- 42:16SPEAKER_02: When you're in a situation, the last 10 years, eight years of the band, from I would say from 2010 on, it was just a fucking chore.
- 42:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you had to do it.
- 42:25SPEAKER_07: Like you had to do that situation.
- 42:27SPEAKER_02: It's like you have to deal with the same fucking personalities that you don't want to deal with.
- 42:31SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it is what it is, you know?
- 42:33SPEAKER_02: You go through it, you go through the motions, but now it's like okay, it's not a chore.
- 42:37SPEAKER_02: You're having having a good time on the road.
- 42:39SPEAKER_02: Everybody's out there to do the same fucking thing, you know.
- 42:42SPEAKER_07: But oh man, that's awesome.
- 42:43SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's crazy.
- 42:44SPEAKER_07: So you guys got a tour bus, man.
- 42:46SPEAKER_07: And you're you leave your families at home, right?
- 42:48SPEAKER_07: Like, I mean, how do you how do y'all deal with that?
- 42:50SPEAKER_07: Like Dave brings his, so he's good.
- 42:53SPEAKER_07: So he's good.
- 42:56SPEAKER_02: I started a bus company about a year and a half ago, so I own the bus that we're in.
- 42:59SPEAKER_07: Oh, dope.
- 43:00SPEAKER_02: And I own a couple of other buses, I have some big clients.
- 43:02SPEAKER_07: That's pretty cool.
- 43:03SPEAKER_02: And uh, yeah, so I'm able to bring my family, thank god.
- 43:06SPEAKER_02: But I mean, I fuck, I paid my dues, man.
- 43:08SPEAKER_02: I did 30 years of touring without family, so yeah, it's time.
- 43:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's time.
- 43:12SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you something though.
- 43:13SPEAKER_01: I mean, I have a five-year-old boy, and it is hard to leave on tour and leave your son behind, you know.
- 43:18SPEAKER_01: It's always painful, you know.
- 43:19SPEAKER_01: I can cry like a baby every time I have to say goodbye.
- 43:23SPEAKER_01: But in the long run, you know, I just want my son to, you know, be an example of something that I'd like him to be.
- 43:30SPEAKER_01: Don't give up, you know.
- 43:32SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you gotta do you know the things that you gotta do to make things move, and I want him to be proud.
- 43:39SPEAKER_01: But most importantly, I have to provide.
- 43:41SPEAKER_01: And I and I, you know, and hopefully you'll understand when I miss certain events, you know, which sucks, you know.
- 43:48SPEAKER_01: But that's part of the nature of this.
- 43:50SPEAKER_01: But I hope that maybe it'll make them proud and that sacrifice will be worth it.
- 43:55SPEAKER_07: Is that something that y'all learn from your parents?
- 43:57SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 43:58SPEAKER_01: I think we're all, I mean, if Look at our friendship, you know, and and the relationship we have with our families, which is why we are family-oriented and why we're still friends, I guess.
- 44:08SPEAKER_01: It was just like Dave.
- 44:10SPEAKER_01: I don't know Dave just like that.
- 44:11SPEAKER_01: He knows my whole family.
- 44:12SPEAKER_01: He knows he's also friends with my brothers, he's been to their weddings.
- 44:15SPEAKER_02: They're like my brothers, and I know the same with my parents.
- 44:18SPEAKER_02: We hung out many Thanksgivings, many family gatherings.
- 44:21SPEAKER_02: So we're we're family.
- 44:23SPEAKER_01: We're a family-oriented band when it comes to that kind of relationship.
- 44:27SPEAKER_01: Same thing now.
- 44:28SPEAKER_02: Now that these guys came in, we know their families.
- 44:31SPEAKER_02: We invite them in.
- 44:32SPEAKER_02: It's like hang out with us.
- 44:33SPEAKER_02: We want that's what we want.
- 44:34SPEAKER_02: We want to come, you know, the friendship of everyone hang, you know, breaking bread together.
- 44:38SPEAKER_02: It's fucking important.
- 44:39SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 44:40SPEAKER_07: Why is that important to you?
- 44:41SPEAKER_02: I mean, just because it's it's a it's a it's a family gathering, really.
- 44:46SPEAKER_02: It's you know, it's like there's nothing more important than family, period.
- 44:49SPEAKER_02: No matter what the fuck.
- 44:49SPEAKER_02: I'll quit, I'll quit today.
- 44:51SPEAKER_02: That's too with my family.
- 44:52SPEAKER_07: Did when you started the band, did you look at the band like that?
- 44:55SPEAKER_02: This is my family, or did it be absolutely, and that's why I treated them so well.
- 45:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, listen, I I want to remember remind this because you know, David's been on a bunch of bands prior to this one, you know, from Gothic Slam, Last Rocket, Propane, MOD, and even Sofli.
- 45:10SPEAKER_01: And he and in between all those bands, he always went home and gathered up the local troops to try to put a band together.
- 45:19SPEAKER_01: Because he didn't like just being a drummer in a band, he wanted a band where everyone had a drummer.
- 45:25SPEAKER_01: Everyone felt included.
- 45:27SPEAKER_02: A lot of times I didn't feel like things were fair.
- 45:29SPEAKER_02: And when I started the band, I was like, everyone is we're all in this together.
- 45:34SPEAKER_02: Like it's it needs to be even, even, you know what I mean?
- 45:37SPEAKER_07: It's crazy, man.
- 45:39SPEAKER_07: Yeah, just uh yeah, scrapes.
- 45:41SPEAKER_01: And he finally got it right.
- 45:42SPEAKER_01: I tried to talk him into just staying in so fly.
- 45:45SPEAKER_01: I'm glad he didn't listen to me.
- 45:47SPEAKER_01: Because I mean, I seen every single band, you know, since, you know, that he's been in.
- 45:52SPEAKER_01: I thought, you know, just take the gig and do your job, you know.
- 45:54SPEAKER_01: And I was like, little did I know that I was, you know, you weren't ready.
- 45:58SPEAKER_02: No, fuck no.
- 45:59SPEAKER_02: You knew it.
- 46:00SPEAKER_02: I just knew, I knew.
- 46:01SPEAKER_02: I was always, you know, I was always like the member that was like a paid guy.
- 46:07SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 46:08SPEAKER_02: So I wanted to do my own thing.
- 46:09SPEAKER_02: I wanted to do my and and I had a vision for doing something that again, how many bands you know have Latin metal with flamenco guitars and and congas and I mean.
- 46:20SPEAKER_07: Do you do you talk?
- 46:21SPEAKER_07: Yeah, do you do you share about why you originally uh left to go join SoFly?
- 46:26SPEAKER_07: They kicked me out, these these guys.
- 46:27SPEAKER_07: You kicked them out, yeah.
- 46:28SPEAKER_07: No, that's not true.
- 46:32SPEAKER_05: Told me I I didn't I didn't stick to it, bro.
- 46:34SPEAKER_05: I didn't fit the height requirement.
- 46:36SPEAKER_05: Oh, what the fuck?
- 46:39SPEAKER_01: We didn't do SoulFly until about a year later.
- 46:41SPEAKER_01: You were also doing a new project, a solo records.
- 46:44SPEAKER_01: Mark was busy doing all this shit, and then he landed the gig with Soflig.
- 46:48SPEAKER_06: Yeah, shit for a long ass time, too.
- 46:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a long time.
- 46:51SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 46:52SPEAKER_06: 18 years or something like that.
- 46:54SPEAKER_06: I gotta ask Mark.
- 46:56SPEAKER_01: Oh well, you know what?
- 46:56SPEAKER_01: Before we say anything, I want to send a shout out to one of our boys, Sal, you know, Sal Dominguez, who's right now, you know, trying to hold it down together, you know, and uh want to send him a shout-out that we're thinking about him.
- 47:10SPEAKER_01: And uh we love him and we miss him.
- 47:17SPEAKER_07: Oh, he's in he we was hospitalized?
- 47:19SPEAKER_07: Or would you say that?
- 47:20SPEAKER_01: Uh well right now he can't be with us because he's just dealing with a lot of issues, you know, some health issues, you know.
- 47:26SPEAKER_06: And you guys respect that.
- 47:28SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, absolutely.
- 47:29SPEAKER_06: That's a good fucking dude.
- 47:30SPEAKER_06: I met him.
- 47:31SPEAKER_01: He's a great dude, a great brother of ours.
- 47:33SPEAKER_01: Uh oh forever is you know, down with our familia.
- 47:37SPEAKER_02: And I also uh we brought back part of our family, Jess.
- 47:40SPEAKER_02: Jess, yeah.
- 47:41SPEAKER_02: So now we're gonna get to that, man.
- 47:42SPEAKER_02: Oh, the Jess Jess, no, the guitar player.
- 47:45SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay, okay.
- 47:46SPEAKER_02: Sons of Texas.
- 47:47SPEAKER_02: The original the original revamp lineup was Jess on guitar.
- 47:50SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 47:51SPEAKER_02: Right before Rizzo came in.
- 47:52SPEAKER_02: So now Jess is back.
- 47:53SPEAKER_02: So Jess and Rizzo.
- 47:55SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's awesome, dude.
- 47:57SPEAKER_01: It's an axe attack, man.
- 47:58SPEAKER_07: I said, Wow, you guys are loving that HR.
- 48:01SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, it's pretty crazy right now.
- 48:02SPEAKER_01: That's funny.
- 48:03SPEAKER_07: Yeah, bro, it's also so you're whole, yeah.
- 48:05SPEAKER_07: So Riz, you learned you actually had you actually learned flamenco and classical to bring it specifically into the band.
- 48:11SPEAKER_05: Nah, it's it's just it's it's crazy how it happened.
- 48:14SPEAKER_05: I I just basically uh yeah, I always study classical and and flamenco and and was a big fan of that stuff.
- 48:20SPEAKER_05: But by the time I I joined the band like in '97, um, I was really, really uh concentrating on on studying flamenco with a a couple different teachers around New York and New Jersey.
- 48:30SPEAKER_05: Um and it just kind of happened, I was like, yo, I'd love to uh try to incorporate this.
- 48:35SPEAKER_05: I was a big fan of a band called Canderia that we used to play with all the time.
- 48:38SPEAKER_05: And Candyria used to always mix jazz with death metal and hardcore.
- 48:42SPEAKER_05: So I was like, yeah, I'd I would love to maybe try to incorporate some uh some acoustic stuff, you know, see see how it works out.
- 48:48SPEAKER_05: And it worked perfectly.
- 48:51SPEAKER_05: It was just timing, you know.
- 48:51SPEAKER_05: It was like it was weird how that all happened, that all worked out like that.
- 48:54SPEAKER_07: You as a fan, I mean how do you how did you uh how did you feel whenever you heard like that style in the in the in their music?
- 49:01SPEAKER_06: Well, see, like I got a shout out to my homeboy Isaac in middle school.
- 49:04SPEAKER_06: He's the one that showed me y'all, and it was uh if you still hate me.
- 49:08SPEAKER_06: He's like, yo, check out this band, and I listened to it.
- 49:11SPEAKER_06: Holy shit, like it wasn't nothing I never heard of before, and I was like, and then since that day I've always been a fucking fan.
- 49:18SPEAKER_06: And still is, you know.
- 49:20SPEAKER_06: But I do have a question for you, Riz.
- 49:22SPEAKER_06: Um, what made you bring in the backpack as a prop?
- 49:26SPEAKER_06: And also it's not a prop, but it's not a prop.
- 49:29SPEAKER_06: What do you what do you carry in it, dog?
- 49:32SPEAKER_05: Uh you know, it it's just I just always wanted to know that girl's panties, right?
- 49:38SPEAKER_05: The the truth is uh, you know, back when we would do shows back in the day, or you know, growing up in New York, New Jersey, and going to shows, you know, you would you would just wear your book bag in the pit because it'd be freezing cold outside.
- 49:50SPEAKER_05: So you put your jacket in there, your keys, go into pit, slam dance.
- 49:53SPEAKER_05: So like everybody was wearing a book bag, you know, for the at least at least I always thought so.
- 49:58SPEAKER_05: And it for me it wasn't a big deal.
- 49:59SPEAKER_05: I just started rocking it on stage, and then I think once we left the the New York, New Jersey area, it became a thing, you know.
- 50:06SPEAKER_05: And uh people just thought it was like you're the only person I've seen do that.
- 50:11SPEAKER_05: So yeah, it was it.
- 50:11SPEAKER_05: I was there was other bands back in the day where people wore book bags.
- 50:14SPEAKER_07: It feels kind of comfortable.
- 50:15SPEAKER_07: I've done it a few times, it was it feels kind of comfortable.
- 50:18SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and I would just keep my shit in it, you know, because sometimes you leave your stuff in the dress room, you get robbed, you know.
- 50:22SPEAKER_05: So it goes.
- 50:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's I'm not kidding either.
- 50:29SPEAKER_01: I can attest to that.
- 50:31SPEAKER_01: The sock with a rock.
- 50:33SPEAKER_02: Trying to keep a good fellow style with a forter.
- 50:35SPEAKER_01: What's amazing though is that we like like the backpack thing.
- 50:38SPEAKER_01: Somehow it's like Marcus is a great guitar player, but I'm sure that even after life in El Nino, the the number one question always is what's in the backpack?
- 50:49SPEAKER_01: I mean, if we hadn't known that earlier, I think we would have had backpacks in the merch table.
- 50:55SPEAKER_05: We do now.
- 50:56SPEAKER_05: We do now.
- 50:57SPEAKER_05: I have I have backpacks, you know, on at the merch table.
- 51:00SPEAKER_01: But you know, I would say he does he does the artwork originally his own hands.
- 51:05SPEAKER_01: Oh, he does it all.
- 51:12SPEAKER_05: But I will say I stopped wearing the book bag.
- 51:18SPEAKER_05: I stopped wearing the book bag in like 04.
- 51:21SPEAKER_05: And I I swore I would never wear it again.
- 51:23SPEAKER_05: But these guys, the new guys, Miggy and Marcos, it's fucking Sal, they begged me to wear it.
- 51:28SPEAKER_05: They're like, come on, you gotta do it.
- 51:29SPEAKER_05: And I was like, dude, I haven't worn that thing in years.
- 51:32SPEAKER_07: Is it the same or what?
- 51:33SPEAKER_05: What's that?
- 51:34SPEAKER_05: Is it the same backpack?
- 51:35SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I sell them.
- 51:37SPEAKER_02: So if anybody wants a backpack, it's for Mali.
- 51:42SPEAKER_07: Hey, hey, El Bago, bro.
- 51:46SPEAKER_07: Backpack, and then you Oh, you ever hear that?
- 51:48SPEAKER_07: El Bago said for he says what time and for who?
- 51:53SPEAKER_05: Six of us.
- 51:54SPEAKER_07: You can't have any because you're making fun of it.
- 51:55SPEAKER_07: So six of y'all, so six of y'all.
- 51:57SPEAKER_03: Earlier the better.
- 51:58SPEAKER_03: Uh is better.
- 51:59SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because we yeah, we can't go on stage all blow this.
- 52:02SPEAKER_02: Listen, bring your dog.
- 52:04SPEAKER_02: It'll be how many of us?
- 52:05SPEAKER_02: One, two, three, four.
- 52:09SPEAKER_05: If he's got any merch, we'll wear it.
- 52:11SPEAKER_02: Oh one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
- 52:16SPEAKER_02: Two tables, right?
- 52:17SPEAKER_02: Me and Miguel, and then the rest of the band.
- 52:18SPEAKER_02: The rest of the guys.
- 52:20SPEAKER_07: Wow.
- 52:20SPEAKER_07: So, man, we've been here for 50 minutes.
- 52:22SPEAKER_07: You guys are awesome, man.
- 52:23SPEAKER_07: Uh, it's good getting to know y'all a little bit more.
- 52:26SPEAKER_07: Uh man, I I heard in the I heard you guys the first album way back.
- 52:31SPEAKER_07: Uh, just kind of lost track of you guys.
- 52:33SPEAKER_07: I mean, I don't know, I had my own journey or whatever.
- 52:36SPEAKER_07: So it's cool to know y'all.
- 52:38SPEAKER_07: Y'all's history is crazy, bro.
- 52:39SPEAKER_07: Like, and just I was just researching and figuring it out.
- 52:41SPEAKER_07: I'm like, damn, these guys have been through a lot of stuff, and they're still here.
- 52:45SPEAKER_07: Still here.
- 52:45SPEAKER_07: You know, you ain't like like you're saying, I we ain't going nowhere.
- 52:48SPEAKER_07: Ain't nothing gonna happen.
- 52:49SPEAKER_07: So we're glad you guys here.
- 52:51SPEAKER_07: Is there anything that y'all want to show, share specifically?
- 52:53SPEAKER_07: Sorry guys.
- 52:54SPEAKER_02: We don't or we do that you want to share.
- 52:57SPEAKER_02: Well, the albums are coming out, you know, end of this month.
- 52:59SPEAKER_02: Uh the first CP, Immortals Volume 1, and then end of July, uh, Immortals Volume 2.
- 53:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 53:05SPEAKER_02: Uh video is gonna be out on Monday um for the new single.
- 53:11SPEAKER_02: And uh yeah.
- 53:12SPEAKER_02: We're gonna be on the road fucking.
- 53:14SPEAKER_02: We got Europe coming up in August and September, then we got the three festivals, Louder Than Life, uh Incarceration, and uh Aftershock.
- 53:23SPEAKER_02: And after that, we are going to South America and Mexico.
- 53:26SPEAKER_02: We have a big festival playing out there with with Limbiscuit in November in Mexico City, and then we're doing like Rock Al Parque, which is uh another huge 160,000 people in Colombia.
- 53:37SPEAKER_02: And uh then we're gonna Australia in December or January.
- 53:43SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna be busy as fuck until January.
- 53:45SPEAKER_07: So you set you set all that up, you set all that all that stuff up for the band.
- 53:49SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 53:51SPEAKER_06: He's the manager.
- 53:52SPEAKER_07: Yeah, so I'm saying like it's it's it's a lot to handle, that's what I'm saying.
- 53:55SPEAKER_07: Like, damn.
- 53:56SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, believe me, man.
- 53:57SPEAKER_07: Yeah, you put in your dudes.
- 53:59SPEAKER_02: Oh, that sucks.
- 54:00SPEAKER_02: Listen, I love it and I fucking hate it.
- 54:02SPEAKER_02: Because I love it because I know it gets us to what we have to get, and I hate it because it's just so much fucking work, you know what I mean?
- 54:10SPEAKER_07: So any upcoming collaborations uh that you guys might have partnerships or or anything.
- 54:16SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm trying to make something happen for the second EP to add um a singer from Skindred, uh Benji, uh on a track.
- 54:24SPEAKER_02: And uh we we've talked about it already, he's ready to do it.
- 54:28SPEAKER_02: Uh we have to send uh you know the music and mix that song, but we have one song in particular in mind for him.
- 54:37SPEAKER_07: Hey, what's up, Alex?
- 54:38SPEAKER_07: What's up, Alex?
- 54:40SPEAKER_07: Hey, you're live, bro.
- 54:41SPEAKER_07: What's up?
- 54:45SPEAKER_07: Uh y'all gonna come in over here?
- 54:46SPEAKER_07: I think they're gonna stay over here by the venue.
- 54:55SPEAKER_05: I'm down to go.
- 54:56SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I mean if I if I want to go.
- 54:59SPEAKER_07: How far is it?
- 55:00SPEAKER_07: It's uh how far is it from the downtown Alex?
- 55:03SPEAKER_07: 15 minutes?
- 55:06SPEAKER_07: 10 minutes, 15 minutes.
- 55:08SPEAKER_07: Yeah, we'll get a view.
- 55:09SPEAKER_07: We can walk over here.
- 55:10SPEAKER_02: You gotta drive over there.
- 55:11SPEAKER_02: We need to get we're gonna get away.
- 55:13SPEAKER_07: Well, we'll bring it on, Alex, and we'll let you know.
- 55:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thanks, Alex.
- 55:16SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
- 55:17SPEAKER_02: Thank you, bro.
- 55:18SPEAKER_01: Thank you, brother.
- 55:19SPEAKER_02: Listen, only you never pass us up a food invitation.
- 55:23SPEAKER_02: They're saying thank you.
- 55:24SPEAKER_02: You can't see, you're gonna regret it.
- 55:26SPEAKER_04: You're gonna regret it later.
- 55:30SPEAKER_05: He's gotta take all the brisket, man.
- 55:34SPEAKER_07: Wow, man.
- 55:35SPEAKER_07: Well, thanks for coming on the show, you guys.
- 55:37SPEAKER_07: Thank you for having us.
- 55:38SPEAKER_07: Uh yeah, it's dope, man.
- 55:39SPEAKER_07: Um, yeah.
- 55:40SPEAKER_07: Uh, if nothing else, we'll say goodbye.
- 55:42SPEAKER_07: We'll say later.
- 55:43SPEAKER_07: Tonight.
- 55:44SPEAKER_07: Tonight, okay.
- 55:46SPEAKER_07: Tonight they're gonna rock out here.
- 55:48SPEAKER_07: House of Rock.
- 55:49SPEAKER_02: Yeah, House of Rock, tickets are low.
- 55:51SPEAKER_02: Get your tickets, come on down and hang out.
- 55:53SPEAKER_07: Don't want to miss it, you guys.
- 55:55SPEAKER_07: Check it out.
- 55:55SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be fucking crazy today.
- 55:57SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be insane.
- 55:58SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's gonna be insane.
- 55:59SPEAKER_07: These guys have put on a show for us.
- 56:00SPEAKER_07: Copers Christie, you guys, and they for sure.
- 56:02SPEAKER_07: You guys gonna play C on the Best?
- 56:04SPEAKER_07: Maybe.
- 56:05SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
- 56:05SPEAKER_07: Maybe I shouldn't have brought that up.
- 56:07SPEAKER_07: Damn.
- 56:08SPEAKER_07: Either way, you guys, check out that track.
- 56:10SPEAKER_07: You go you don't want to miss it online.
- 56:12SPEAKER_07: Uh on the check it out on Spotify, Apple Music, that's where I listen to it.
- 56:15SPEAKER_07: But yeah, you guys stay tuned.
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- 56:30SPEAKER_07: We'll see you guys later.
- 56:31SPEAKER_07: Have a good one.
- 56:32SPEAKER_07: Stay tuned for the next video.
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