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Howard Lutnick And The Transcript From His Epstein Related Congressional Hearing (Part 9) (5/16/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where we left off with the Howard Lutnik deposition with
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  Congress question by emmer So. This is an email from
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  the Duben Brest Center to Jeffrey Epstein with the subject
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  line a special invitation from Eva Anderson Duben Secretary Lutnik.
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  I'm aware that you're not a part of the email chain.
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  What do you recognize as flyer? Answer? Not off hand?
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  No question. Were you involved with the Duben breast cancer answer?
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  I gave the money. Question and how do you know
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  Glenna Eva Dubin Answer? I met them through the hospital.
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  Question Did you understand the Dubins to have a relationship
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  with mister Epstein? Answer? I learned that later after twenty nineteen.
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  Question what did you learn as far as a relationship?
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  Answer that Miss Duben had her prior existing relationship with
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  mister this individual. Question were you involved with selecting individuals
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  that would be invited to this event? Answer? No question.
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  And for the record, did you attend this event? Answer?
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  I don't remember. Question, so you would not know if
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  Jeffrey Epstein attended the event as well, or if Jeffrey
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  Epstein attended this specific event. Answer. I have told I
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  have been here and answered every question of every interaction
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  I've had, so I do not recall any other interaction emmer.
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  At this time, I'd like to introduce what will be
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  marked as majority Exhibit number ten, and this is Bates
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  marked EFTA two six seven, one, five four five. This
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  emails dated November eleventh, twenty fifteen, and was released by
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  the Department of Justice as part of the Epstein Files
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  Transparency Act. Secretary Lutnik, we discuss your emails in the
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  previous hour. Did you send this email? Answer? I did not.
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  Question it was sent on your behalf. Is that right? Answer?
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  It was sent by Matthew Gilbert. Question do you recall
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  this event taking place with Secretary Clinton? Answer yes. Question
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  what do you recall about the event? Answer a classic
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  fundraising political event. Question and what was your relationship with
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  Secretary Clinton at the time? Answer, we had a historical relationship.
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  She was very helpful to New York and my company
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  after nine to eleven. Question did you understand Secretary Clinton
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  have a relationship with mister Epstein? Answer no. Question And
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  as far as the event for the record. Do you
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  have any recollection of interacting with Jeffrey Epstein at this event? Answer?
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  I did not and he wasn't there. Question okay. In
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  January of twenty seventeen, there was a Brioni flagship store
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  opening that mister Epstein was invited to. Do you recall
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  this event? Answer no, mister Emmer. At this time, I
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  would like to answer what will be marked as majority
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  exhibit number eleven and this is batesmarked EFTA two two
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  two nine seven two one. I'll direct your attention to
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  page two. This is an invitation from John Paulson sent
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  to Leslie Groff, who then forwarded it to mister Epstein.
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  The subject line of the email reads you JA Wall
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  Street Dinner honoring Howard Lutnik, Secretary Lutnick. Do you recall
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  this event taking place? Answer? Yeah? Question and why did
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  this event take place? Answer? It was a record setting
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  fundraiser event for you JA. Question and the email is
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  from John Paulson. Did you direct mister Paulson to invite
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  Jeffrey Epstein? Answer no question, And it appears as though
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  mister Epstein did in fact donate. Did you solicit that donation?
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  Answer no question. Did you thank mister Epstein for that
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  donation for the event. Answer no question. And as far
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  as the event itself, presumably you attended the event. Did
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  you see mister Epstein or interact with mister Epstein at
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  this event? Answer no question. Secretary Lutnick, you mentioned traveling
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  with your kids in a previous hour. Did you have
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  a private nanny? Answer sure. Question. And as we've seen
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  from the Epstein files that have been released, it appears
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  that a nanny that was in your employee had center
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  resume to mister Epstein. Do you know anything about that?
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  Answer I have no knowledge about it at all. Question
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  and for the record, you never encouraged any of the
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  nannies that were under your employment to reach out for
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  mister Epstein in any respect. Answer that's correct, none, mister Spector. Question,
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  are you aware of any employee of yours later working
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  for Jeffrey Epstein? Answer no, No employee of mine, I
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  don't think ever work for Jeffrey Epstein. Answer are you
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  aware of any employee of Jeffrey Epstein ever later working
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  for you? Answer no, mister Emmer, I now would like
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  to introduce what will be marked as Exhibit twelve and
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  thirteen and as they're being handed out. Exhibit twelve is
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  Bates marked EFTA one eight six eight six two six.
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  Exhibit thirteen is Baits marked EFTA two eight four two nine.
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  And I'll give you a chance to review the exhibits
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  and notes that it appears as though you were not
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  a recipient of those emails. Turwolger, the lawyer for Lutnik,
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  jumps in, Are we done with the prior exhibit, mister Emmer? Emmer, yes, Sir,
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  Secretary Lutnik, Oh, I should just make clear I don't
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  know if like some Gardner ever worked for you, know,
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  like I wouldn't possibly know that one way or the other. Specter.
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  We're only asking you to testify to the best of
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  your knowledge and recollection. Lutnick, Okay, I know well you
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  had a preamble in the beginning, and I'm just trying
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  to be responsive. Emmer question. Thank you so during the
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  previous hour we talked about interactions that you had in
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  April of twenty eleven. I just want to clarify for
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  the record, these two exhibits imply that there is a
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  meeting on May first. Would it be your impression that
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  is the meeting related to the scaffolding. Answer, it is
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  so this this is incorrect. I did not have question. Okay,
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  thank you, mister Grant. Secretary Lutnik, you've answered questions regarding
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  mister Epstein and miss Maxwell a numerous amount of times
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  at this point, across different hearings around Congress and here today.
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  Is there anything that hasn't been asked of you that
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  you think that we should know as part of the investigation, Lutnick, No, emmer.
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  Thank you will go off record redacted. We can go
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  back on record. Question Secretary Lutnik, a few more questions.
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  Like I said earlier, if it's repetitive or it's been
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  asked and answered, I'm going to try to avoid it.
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  I can't promise I'm going to succeed in every case,
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  but I'm going to try. With respect to the tour
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  of the home that we discussed, just a few general
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  questions about what you recall. Did you see any women
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  in Epstein's home on that tour other than your wife? Answer?
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  You're talking about which question two thousand and five. Answer Lutnick,
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  you're talking about his townhouse in New York. Question. Yeah,
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  the tour of Epstein's house in New York that you're
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  saved in two thousand and five. Answer so is residents. Okay, So,
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  what's the question you'd like? Question? Did you see any
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  woman or women in the home other than your wife?
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  Answer no question. Did you see any photos or other
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  images that were sexual or sexually suggestive? Answer no question.
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  Did you see any cameras or other recording device answer
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  no question, apart from the massage table and candles. Did
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  you see anything that raised a concern on your part
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  about mister Epstein? Answer no question. Did you see anything
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  in the home that was related to President Trump? Answer no,
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  always about Trump, Buffungle Trump. Okay, enough already. Question. At
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  some point in that New York Post, when you were
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  discussing the concept of blackmail, you add something to the
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  effect of that's how Epstein had money. Just wanted to
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  ask did you have any direct or indirect knowledge of
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  Epstein making any kind of money through blackmail? Answer no,
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  I was just speculating. Question. Did you then or now
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  have any knowledge regarding the relationship between Epstein and less Wexner?
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  Answer what's the question again? Sorry? Well, maybe if the
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  Republicans went and talked to love Wexner when they had
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  them on the dock, they would have found out, but
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  they didn't do that, did they? Oh, that's right. Question
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  did you, either back then or sitting here now, have
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  any knowledge of that relationship between Epstein and Wesner? Answer
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  at some point I came to learn that they were friends.
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  Question did you ever hear directly or indirectly that blackmail
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  may have had any component of their relationship? Answer? I
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  can't remember, one way or the other. I remember something
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  about their relationship ended badly, but I don't have any
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  particular relation particular knowledge. Question do you recall any more
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  detail other than that? Answer no. Question Do you have
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  any knowledge regarding the relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Leon Black?
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  Answer what's the question again? Question do you have, either
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  back then or sitting here today, any knowledge regarding the
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  relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Leon Black? Answer no, other
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  than I think they had a relationship of some form.
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  Question is that based on public reporting as far as
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  you know, or any kind of personal knowledge? Answer? I
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  don't have any personal knowledge. Question have you ever heard
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  directly or indirectly that blackmail may have had any role
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  in the relationship between Epstein and Leon Black? Answer no
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  particular knowledge. No question Okay. The part of the New
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  York Post interview, there was a part that was related
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  to the existence of videos and videos possibly being traded
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  in exchange for mister Epstein's plead deal. I just wanted
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  to clarify, did you have any knowledge of such a
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  trade occurring? The lawyer Tellwiger jumps in, mister adaktid, Can
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  I just ask a question? You say, the New York
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  Post interview, You mean the Podforce one podcast? Correct answer?
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  I do. Indeed, Lutnick, would you mind repeating the question question? Sure?
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  Of course. There was a part towards the best the
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  end of the podcast, the discussion about Epstein. There was
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  a discussion about the possible existence of videos of powerful
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  men getting massages, and there might be something compromising on
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  those videos. I think you had discussed the possibility that,
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  if those videos existed, maybe mister Epstein had traded them
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  to the Department of Justice in exchange for a lenient
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  plea deal. I just wanted to ask whether you thought
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  that was based on any personal knowledge of yours or
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  was that just a theoretical thought. Answer. I was just
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  speculating for the podcast. This guy's a cabinet member and
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  he's out here speculating on a podcast. Okay, question a
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  few general questions. They're similar to some that you've answered,
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  but I think phrased slightly differently. Prior to becoming or
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  at becoming public knowledge, did you ever have direct or
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  indirect knowledge of the sexual abuse that Jeffrey Epstein was
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  committing against miners and young women? Answer no question. Prior
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  to becoming public knowledge? Did you ever have direct or
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  indirect knowledge of the sexual abuse that Glaine Maxwell was
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  committing and facilitating against miners and young women? Answer no question.
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  Have you ever engaged in sexual activity with a person
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  introduced to you by Jeffrey Epstein? Orglene Maxwell? Answer no question.
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  Have you ever received a massage from a person introduced
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  to you by Jeffrey Epstein? Orglainne Maxwell? Answer no question. Okay.
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  My colleague has a few questions related to Epstein's various properties. Question, So,
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  Secretary Lutnik, you answered questions previously about a number of
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  Epstein's properties, but we wanted to cover a few that
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  had not been raised yet. Specifically, so, did you ever
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  visit Epstein's home in New Aubney, Ohio? Answer no question.
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  And what about any of the apartments that he rented
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  in London. Answer no question, okay, And then a few
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  general questions about his properties in general, whether or not
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  they're the ones that you personally visited. Did you ever
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  hear any rumors or allegation of miners visiting Epstein at
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  any of his properties before they became public reporting? Answer
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  no question, okay. Did you ever see or hear of
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  large numbers of women visiting Epstein's New York home answer
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  no question. Or any other property answer no question, okay.
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  And do you recall hearing about any other prominent figure
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  include individuals visiting any of Epstein's home Turwolger, could you
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  be a little more specific about which homes time frame
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  what you mean by prominent figure? Sure? I think prominent
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  figure can include politician, well known, wealthy individual, celebrities generally,
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  and other than that what you have read through public
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  reporting since did you have any personal knowledge of Epstein
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  hosting we can go property by property that's easier hosting
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  any such individuals at his New York home? Answer no.
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  Palm Beach answer no question. New Mexico answer no question,
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  Paris answer no question. Any other property answer no question, okay.
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  Or flying on his planes, any of those planes. People
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  flying on his planes are taking other of his the
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  modes of transportation that he owned. Answer no question, Okay,
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  answer nothing. Then whatever's public question and other than public reporting,
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  do you recall hearing anything about Epstein throwing parties at
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  any of his homes? Answer no question, Okay, thank you.
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  All right. We're gonna wrap up right here, and in
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  the next episode, we're gonna pick up where we left off.
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