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INTERVIEW: Charlie Wilson On Quitting Drugs, Gap Band Struggles, Bobby Brown, Patti Labelle, Kanye West + More · The Breakfast Club

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Wake that hands up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's d J Envy.
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Just hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got
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  Speaker 3: a special guest in the building, legend. That's right, just
• 0:13
  Speaker 3: got his star on a Hollywood Walker fan. Ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 3: Charlie Wilson, how are.
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  Speaker 1: You, black man?
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  Speaker 4: I'm good man, Yes, sir, I'm blessed black and Holly favorite.
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  Speaker 4: Congrats on the Hollywood Walker fan.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 4: What did that mean to you?
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  Speaker 5: It was basically a miracle for me because, uh, not
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  Speaker 5: far from where I got the star, uh maybe a block,
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  Speaker 5: So that's why I was homeless. So it's like a
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  Speaker 5: miracle full circle.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, wow, it looked different down there because things
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  Speaker 5: has changed so many years ago. But and then when
• 0:54
  Speaker 5: we went to park to wait for them to get rid,
• 0:57
  Speaker 5: for them for me to be ready, for them to
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  Speaker 5: be ready for me to come, I was like, oh wow,
• 1:01
  Speaker 5: we're just riding around the corner from the total experience
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  Speaker 5: where it used to be. And so I was like, wow, okay,
• 1:07
  Speaker 5: so that's why I slept around the corner there. So
• 1:11
  Speaker 5: but anyway, it's it was. It was a miracle. That's
• 1:15
  Speaker 5: basically what I got to say.
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  Speaker 4: That's a man, very emotional day that day.
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  Speaker 5: Then, yeah, man, it was everybody came. Everybody that I've
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  Speaker 5: sang with, they were all there. The lady who had
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  Speaker 5: was on the commission of the Walk of Fame, uh
• 1:30
  Speaker 5: Anna Martinee Martinez. She's like, I've never seen this many stars,
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  Speaker 5: never ever seen this many stars show up for a
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  Speaker 5: guy that's getting a star.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I said, well, I showed up.
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  Speaker 5: For them, Yeah, to slang with them, So they showed
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  Speaker 5: up for me.
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  Speaker 1: That was a really cool thing. Everybody was there, you know, Yay.
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  Speaker 5: Snoop, Uh, Don Tolliver Tyler, the Creer uh Tied.
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  Speaker 1: Donad Sign, Uh, Jimmy, Jeanme Terry. Uh.
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  Speaker 5: It was just so many h only somebody that can
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  Speaker 5: get a chance to make it was uh for real
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  Speaker 5: and and and.
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  Speaker 1: Uh Farrell was in Paris. I guess it's fashion show
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  Speaker 1: a Uh what's the kids name Cruz Metro Yeah, uh hm.
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  Speaker 5: And and the guy took me on the on tour
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  Speaker 5: with him who he was flying in. He got the
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  Speaker 5: message late and he said, wow, man, I'm sorry he
• 2:57
  Speaker 5: got in. He had to get to Vegas because you
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  Speaker 5: know he got his residence, but everybody else was there. Man,
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  Speaker 5: it was It was amazing.
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  Speaker 7: Do you have memories when you was homeless, like walking
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  Speaker 7: down that ward and looking at those stars?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well, the first time I saw the stars was.
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  Speaker 5: Before all of the hoop of art and craziness.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. I was was my first the Gap bands first album.
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  Speaker 1: We was.
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  Speaker 5: I flew in to uh mix it at the record
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  Speaker 5: plant and uh the single and the and the album
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  Speaker 5: and of course, uh Stevie Wonder was running late getting
• 3:38
  Speaker 5: out of there. He was still in there mixing. Anyway
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  Speaker 5: that I got. That was my first time meeting him,
• 3:45
  Speaker 5: and and uh we went to the piano. He sang,
• 3:49
  Speaker 5: we sang together, and that was the first time I
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  Speaker 5: ever had met him.
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  Speaker 1: So and you know he was late come on to
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  Speaker 1: the piano.
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  Speaker 4: Man, how would STEVEE know? He late? Man, somebody.
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  Speaker 1: He don't use no time. He just don't use time,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but he just do his thing.
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  Speaker 5: But anyway, we just went out there and had some
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  Speaker 5: fun together and uh and uh. But when I was leaving,
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  Speaker 5: I remember looking down before I got there, I remember
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  Speaker 5: looking down at the at the stars. I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 5: because I was in front of the Chinese theater and uh,
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  Speaker 5: and I was putting my hands and like that in
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  Speaker 5: the front of in the hands and footprints and stuff
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  Speaker 5: like that. Then I walked and seen the stars. I
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  Speaker 5: was like, Wow, maybe one of the day, maybe I
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  Speaker 5: can get one of these. And somebody lady was saying,
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  Speaker 5: that's not impossible. I was like, yeah, but it's me.
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  Speaker 5: I ain't I was. We didn't have no record, I
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  Speaker 5: was nobody. It's just like and she said it's not impossible.
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  Speaker 5: I said, I didn't say it was impossible. I'm just
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  Speaker 5: talking about me getting one out. I don't have a
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  Speaker 5: record out or nothing yet. She's like, I said, I'm
• 5:05
  Speaker 5: talking about me. She said, I'm talking about you. It
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  Speaker 5: just went through that whole little thing for a while,
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  Speaker 5: and I was like, Wow, would it be cool if
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  Speaker 5: I could get one of these?
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  Speaker 8: Now you got yeah, do you feel like it took
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  Speaker 8: longe a beautiful thing for me that day?
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  Speaker 9: Do you feel like that and a lot of stars.
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  Speaker 8: Do you feel like it takes you know, a long
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  Speaker 8: it takes so long for some people, certain people to
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  Speaker 8: get it.
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  Speaker 9: Do you feel like it took.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, everything that happen. If it took a long time,
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  Speaker 5: they got thumbs everybody had.
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  Speaker 1: But it's all good. Yeah, you know, it's all good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm blessed, and and and and and those who
• 5:48
  Speaker 5: really thought they had a thumb on me or whatever
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  Speaker 5: hit on my head or whatever. Most of them died out.
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  Speaker 5: And the ones that everybody kept me away from because
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  Speaker 5: they thought I was a disease or I was bad
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  Speaker 5: for the person. They all died from drugs. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm still alive and well amen, thirty years later,
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  Speaker 5: still sober.
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  Speaker 1: Come on that now.
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  Speaker 3: For most people that don't know, how did you get
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  Speaker 3: out from being homeless to back to where you needed
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  Speaker 3: to be? I mean, I read the story that you
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  Speaker 3: said a lot of your brothers and sisters that were
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  Speaker 3: homeless with you would protect you. They would make sure
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  Speaker 3: that they would hide you and get you the food.
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  Speaker 3: They said you almost like Dracula. You almost came out
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  Speaker 3: in the night.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I had to because I didn't want to
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  Speaker 5: about to see me the way I looked at the time.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 5: But the lady that was was the doctor and at
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  Speaker 5: the rehab and the counselor. She's the one that bought
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  Speaker 5: me a house and then I asked her to move
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  Speaker 5: in with me, and you know that whole thing. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know you like that. I was like, well, I
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  Speaker 5: can't be in here by myself, ma'am. And so but anyway,
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  Speaker 5: that's my.
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  Speaker 1: Wife, so that she is.
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  Speaker 5: I took her with me, So I took rehab with me.
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  Speaker 5: I ain't never looked back. Yeah, I've been sober all
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  Speaker 5: that time. Never looked back at none of they had
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  Speaker 5: a bet on me that I would have her smoking
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  Speaker 5: in about a week.
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  Speaker 1: Never looked back at none of those people.
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  Speaker 5: Some of them dead, but everybody I wanted to hang
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  Speaker 5: out with, they're all gone.
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  Speaker 7: For people going through something like that, what advice would
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  Speaker 7: you give me to be able to quit and not
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  Speaker 7: look back.
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  Speaker 5: You have to change people, places and things. So the
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  Speaker 5: people you knew, you got to get rid of that person.
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  Speaker 5: The places used to go, you gotta can't go there
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  Speaker 5: no more. And the things used to do, you can't
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  Speaker 5: do that no more either. So it's a rough situation.
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  Speaker 5: I know about it because prior to that, before I
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  Speaker 5: went to this last rehab, well, I met my wife
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  Speaker 5: to be at that time, man, I had been through
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  Speaker 5: seven rehabs because somebody else wanted me to go. So
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  Speaker 5: I just didn't know if I was gonna make it.
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  Speaker 5: But man, god, it's good man, yes, sir, Yeah, it's good, sir,
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  Speaker 5: and worthy to be praised. But so I just take
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  Speaker 5: my time and take it one day at a time,
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  Speaker 5: one hour at a time, on a minute at a time,
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  Speaker 5: or whatever it was. I did that all the years.
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  Speaker 1: But I know I had.
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  Speaker 5: A powerful support group behind me with me. And so
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  Speaker 5: she was slapping hands and if get out there, woo you,
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  Speaker 5: you can't come back here?
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  Speaker 1: What's your name? What's the what's the next? Briacase you
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  Speaker 1: got jump in there? You know.
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  Speaker 5: She was just like my mama, let nobody come in
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  Speaker 5: the rooms.
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  Speaker 9: Right, So, and that is very powerful.
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  Speaker 8: And speaking of power, you got a new song called Superman.
• 8:57
  Speaker 9: That's that's yeah, tell us about that.
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  Speaker 1: What is about the Superman? Is the story? My story
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  Speaker 1: and my wife and I. Yeah, and so.
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  Speaker 5: Uh uh stereotypes I called him, they call him Stero
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  Speaker 5: stereo hearts now. They wrote because they knew my story.
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  Speaker 5: So I said, we gotta do a record that would
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  Speaker 5: tell my story. So they came up with that. We
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  Speaker 5: came up with that idea, and uh so it's about
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  Speaker 5: it's about me and my.
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  Speaker 3: Wife giving you the affirmation because you know, it's we
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  Speaker 3: were listening to the record.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, the camera got loose right here.
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  Speaker 1: It was like he was asking.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, you know, do you feel like in
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  Speaker 3: a relationship you still need that affirmation? You still need
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  Speaker 3: your wife to look at you as superman and to
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  Speaker 3: call you superman. And I'm like, hell, yeah, I've been
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: with my wife.
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  Speaker 5: I've been I've been with my wife thirty Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's it's the same thing with me.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, hey man, we we go listen m twenty
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  Speaker 5: four hours a day, seven days a week, thirty years.
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: This should be thirty years, no days apart. Can you
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  Speaker 1: do that?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: High school?
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm talking about. No going to the store. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be right back. None of that. I'm going to store,
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  Speaker 1: I be right back.
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  Speaker 2: We're going together.
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  Speaker 1: We go together everywhere, no days apart.
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  Speaker 3: No, they don't do that, do that together?
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  Speaker 4: How wild was you child?
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: It's not that I needed the supervision.
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  Speaker 5: It's just when I first met her in the rehealb
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  Speaker 5: she was like, well, if we're gonna be together, because
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  Speaker 5: I was like, man, I can't do this by myself.
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: She said, I don't even know you I was like,
• 10:49
  Speaker 5: you know, thanks for the house, but I can't be
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: in here by myself and I ain't got no cars.
• 10:54
  Speaker 5: Looking at her being, she was like, don't look at that.
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  Speaker 9: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying she you know.
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  Speaker 5: She was like, I'm not gonna be sitting around here
• 11:06
  Speaker 5: while you travel the world.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. I said, So what youre
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: talking about? She said?
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  Speaker 5: We got to be together every day. I was like
• 11:13
  Speaker 5: every day. She's like, yeah, every day. And I was like, okay,
• 11:21
  Speaker 5: let me try. I try that and send myself. I'll
• 11:23
  Speaker 5: try that.
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Think she was gonna last that. He was like, one
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  Speaker 2: long night. She can blake forget this.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 5: It was amazing. And after a while, yeah, it was
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  Speaker 5: like what's this. I can't I ain't never did this before.
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  Speaker 5: But it was like, you know, I fell in love
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  Speaker 5: with her. So I was like, this is cool. We
• 11:40
  Speaker 5: hold hands every day, all day everywhere, and but it
• 11:44
  Speaker 5: was it was beautiful and it's still beautiful. She would
• 11:46
  Speaker 5: keep you out of a lot of trouble. Oh man, Yeah,
• 11:49
  Speaker 5: people will walk up to me. I ain't jolly, what's
• 11:51
  Speaker 5: going on? Put the big rock in my hand. I
• 11:53
  Speaker 5: was like, dude, I don't do that no more.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: I'm sober. That's what they told me. Why did you
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: put it in my hand in?
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  Speaker 7: What about the women with poom pool put the big
• 12:00
  Speaker 7: pool poom in your y? I don't do that no more.
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: I don't do you no more.
• 12:14
  Speaker 5: It's all good, no man, it's just the whole life,
• 12:18
  Speaker 5: My whole life style changed and it's it's still changing
• 12:23
  Speaker 5: for the better of everything, for the better.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: I mean. Now she's.
• 12:28
  Speaker 5: She picks the clothes, she she uh produces the show,
• 12:34
  Speaker 5: and she uh does the lineup, and it's it's amazing.
• 12:40
  Speaker 5: She's amazing, man. She knows how to First she comes
• 12:43
  Speaker 5: with the show, the songs. I'm like, shoot, it's gonna work.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: May just do it. Just do it.
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  Speaker 5: Then when I come off, you did good, I said,
• 12:57
  Speaker 5: but put that lineup that ask the people did they
• 13:01
  Speaker 5: like it? So she produces all of that for me
• 13:05
  Speaker 5: and and put it all down, man. And then she
• 13:10
  Speaker 5: picks all the clothes. But between her and.
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: She picked out this morning, she got you looking clean.
• 13:17
  Speaker 9: Jacket is frash.
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: Sneaker?
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: You know, we had to ask you know.
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: Of course, fifty years of hip hop was was last
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: year we had DMC so we own a tour.
• 13:28
  Speaker 6: In the beginning of the tour, the whole Gap band,
• 13:31
  Speaker 6: the whole staff, the whole management, everybody that was part
• 13:35
  Speaker 6: of the whole tour.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Hey, we we.
• 13:37
  Speaker 6: Love you rap guys, and there was it was kind
• 13:40
  Speaker 6: of like this, oh we loved you, run DNJ, because
• 13:42
  Speaker 6: you're not gonna be here in two years.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: This rap shit is gonna die whatever. So you have
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: open access. Here's the hot food. You don't have to just.
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  Speaker 6: Eat the craft table.
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: You could come in the green room, this and that.
• 13:52
  Speaker 6: The bus is over here, here's the real good showers
• 13:55
  Speaker 6: and stuff like that. All of a sudden, halfway through
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  Speaker 6: the tour, we're starting.
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  Speaker 1: Now you can't go over there in the more.
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: This is true.
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  Speaker 1: No y'all can't go over there.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, y'all over here.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: They put us in the broom closet.
• 14:05
  Speaker 6: So one day and we're in the broom closet sitting
• 14:07
  Speaker 6: and me running Jay say, this is me running Jay
• 14:09
  Speaker 6: the promoter and Charlie Wilson's manager, Charlie Wilson and the
• 14:15
  Speaker 6: other guy from the Gap band.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: It coming out dressing room.
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  Speaker 4: So you're run that's the MC. This is Jay.
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  Speaker 6: So it's the promoter knock on the broom closet to
• 14:23
  Speaker 6: a boom boom, Can we speak to your gods?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? Cool?
• 14:26
  Speaker 6: Promoter manager Charlie Wilson, the other guy from the Gap band,
• 14:30
  Speaker 6: we'd like to talk to you about something. Charlie Wilson
• 14:32
  Speaker 6: run DMCJ is standing like this to us. Wow, Charlie,
• 14:38
  Speaker 6: it's a fatal We loving every minute of it.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Mad as a fuck.
• 14:43
  Speaker 6: Excuse me, guys for the rest of the tour. We
• 14:46
  Speaker 6: would like y'all to close the Show't you no headline money?
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: Or you like y'all to close the show?
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: Ain't that right, Yard, it's the Funnies shit ever, he's
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: that's right.
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  Speaker 4: Then you had his back to him the whole time.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: That's what he's saying.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: Was that the rap guys was closing because they didn't.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: Nobody expect the rap to last that long.
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I was glad that I was. I
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: was glad that it was like what how how it
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: was with them? I was really really I was happy
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: about him. I was glad to be on on some
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: dates with them. It was just like it was crazy, man.
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: I was like, man, this is gonna really take off.
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: I knew it and I wanted to be with Russ
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: uh and he wanted to sign us.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: Off for management through the label.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: And my brother, My brother was like, man, he probably
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: some Quindalini siemers. You know, I don't want to mess
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: with him. But it was just like my brother was.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: And uh, but uh, we didn't.
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: We didn't take that route because it would have been
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: really really huge for the Gap and to ben with
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: Russ because I know he would have had some some
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: things going and we would have some records with them
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: or some rock and some black. You know, it probably
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: would have been big. But uh, I enjoyed it myself.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Man, So did you have your back to them?
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Man? Do you wish I don't know what they talking about?
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I don't remember half the stuff that he was. You
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: wanted to know the truth?
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  Speaker 5: Too many that's been too many damn years ago many
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: what he.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Was talking about. I'm just telling you.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: But back then, is there anything you wish you would
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: have done differently? Because you said if you would have
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: signed Russell, it would have you would have did records
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: with these people, would have been rock. It probably would
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: have been big. Is anything that you wish y'all would
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: have did different back then?
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't wish nothing like that anymore because it
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: turned out the way God wanted it to be. Because
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, I uh, if I would have
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: did what the Italians wanted me to do, they offered
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: me a million dollars to leave the gap bed. When
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: the Italians came and said, I'll give you a million
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: dollars to leave this group right now, and I was like, man,
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: you try to get me leave my brothers and I
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: was didn't understand what the guy was talking about.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I was I got custo.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: I cussed him out because it's my family, you know.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: He said, I want you to be the black Elton John.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: We got to writers for you and everything. I didn't
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: get it. I was young.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I just didn't get it, you know.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: I just know that at that time he was trying
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: to make me leave my brothers and that I didn't
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: want to do that. But I think if I would
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: have done that, I wouldn't be here now, because I mean,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: at that time, I was.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one years old.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: Twenty one years old, you talking about millions and millions
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: and millions and millions and millions of dollars and cocaine.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: Cocaine cocaine, okain, cokaine. So I probably would have died
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: like the youngest brother of Beg's. I probably would have
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: died young and ignorant.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's how I look at it now. God
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: don't make mistakes at all. You know, he'll make me
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: hit me. Thank you, going around in this circle for
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: a long time until you get through bumping your head
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: so many times, and you know. And so I turned
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: it all down and uh and uh, oldest brother said, man,
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: you better you than me, brother, because.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: If it had been me, I had left me. I
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: had left me long time ago.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: I was a lot of money back in that day
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: to do a million dollars.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: More man, seventy seventy two, Oh yeah, yeah, seventy two.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: And we'd had it with that record we put out
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: at that time, didn't sell no more than about twenty
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: six records.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: People don't have that kind of integrity, no more, no more.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: No.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: So I went through.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: I went through the whole thing, the whole situation with
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: my brothers and all of that stuff, all of those
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: years and uh, without anything.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: So never got paid for anything for how long? When
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: did you for time?
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: The whole time the whole time, would the god man
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: the whole time?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Wow, not a dollar, not even for shows?
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: My brother?
• 19:15
  Speaker 9: Mm hmmm.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: So who was getting all the money?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm my brother.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: And that's why he said I would have left me
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: a long time ago.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't know.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: It was like I was believing everything. You know, you've
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: got your big brother, you gonna believe everything he say.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Don't do this, don't do that. So and so he's
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: the corporate he's the guy. He's the guy.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: He's the one that's taking from us and all of that.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: So, hey, man, we were just having that conversation this morning,
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: just about business. When it comes to doing business with family.
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: How do you how do you treat him in that situation?
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: Do you see him like.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: What do you do? I?
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't?
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: They both dead now, m oh man. Yeah, yeah.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: I had a conversation where Lord let me be able
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: to talk to him before he passed. I had about
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: two hours. He couldn't talk that much. He was on
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: his deathbase. But I asked him everything I needed to know.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: I said, Man, I ain't mad at you.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Man. You know, let's see the gap. Man.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: We had fifteen top ten hits, me thirteen number ones
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: it's a big difference.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: You could do the super Bowl halftime show.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: You and I could have been doing a lot of that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, how do.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: You how do you feel about award shows?
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: I got, you know, the Grammys was just on, and
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: you know, everybody saw the speech that Jay did.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Are those things important to you?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Not anymore?
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: I've been there thirteen times, so hey, hmm, it's just
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: it's just some TV moments for people. And I know
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: who they're gonna give it to. We know who they're
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: gonna give it to. You ain't gonna get too much
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: of this.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Too much black rappe.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: That skin is too dark, you said, unless you are rapid,
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: unless you rapping them.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, he can get one of them. That's good, you know.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, then on award.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: R and B singers, soul singers, too many, that's in
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: the pre pre pre Grammic show. That's where you're gonna
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: get most of your stuff. It's not aired. You leave
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: there and go to the big room, sit in your
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: seat and wait and see if you're in anything in
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: that one. It's all good.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: You feel like you get the flowers you deserve, the
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: amount of hits that you like. You just said and
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: then the mount of number ones, thirteen number ones.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: You see that guy right there and that lady right there. Yeah, yeah,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: that's my manager, and that's my wife, and that's my son.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. So anything happened for me,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: them too, they give it to me. It comes that
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: from that way. That's my flowers.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the root or the flower tree. So that's
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: all you need. That's all I need.
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: Validation.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: I don't need nothing else because them mother folks ain't
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: gave me nothing, and everybody that could have helped me
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: it's gone. So now they try to hug on me
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: because I'm still making number ones. See, I'm the oldest
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: guy out here, the oldest making number one records.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: That's me.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: There's nobody else making number one records. That's my age,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: but me making number one records. So I don't care
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: about none of that other stuff.
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: You work speaks, Yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Why do you think artists cares so much about
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: stuff like the grammar?
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I have no clue.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: It's just you know, validation, yep, they're looking for validation
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: and things like that. You know, I went through those phases, man,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: a long time ago, and we always we've been together
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: a long time, and we felt a little weird back
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: in the days when the first started going. You know, man,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: we should have won that, I said, I know, I
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: performed in pre pro Grammars before, and uh, I thought
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: that was gonna get me push, get me to the
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: next level, wreck the place, but then get me to
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: that to the telecast, you know, But.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: It's all good. I did all that a long time ago.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: Now, if they asked, men, I'm not doing I don't
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: want to do that, do that?
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Why want to connect with the youth so much? Like
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: you look at a lot of artists, sometimes they phase out,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: but I feel like the youth loves you right, whether
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: it's it's Yay like you said, or Tyler the Creator
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: or you know, Bruno Mars or even you know Uncle Snoop,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Like it feels like they just gravitate to you.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Want to do more music, But you don't see that
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: too much. Why do you think that is?
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Because I can still say my voice down sounds the same,
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: maybe even better.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can still do that, And.
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: So that's how you keep reinventing yourself.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: And yeah, I know exactly what because I'm always with
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: you know, Tyler Got makes records from me. Don Tolliver
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: makes records for me, and everybody has been making records
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: for me. So I'm like, I don't know when he's
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: going to put those records out, but some of them
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: already made the records for me, you see.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: So we've been looking at it. You know.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: It's like, hey, uh, whenever he wants to put them out.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: But the the the fun of it is is that
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: these guys, I'm with a lot of them all the time,
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: so I know what what sounds that they're using. I
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: know what kind of vibes are they are. I'm not copying,
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: but it feels good to me. So whatever feels good
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: to me, and it's for it's super super for them.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Those are the kind of records that she put out. Basically,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I don't copy, but I do, uh listen to what's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: going on when I'm with.
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: Them kids, and I love that.
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: I see you're really close with Kanye Snoop, How did
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: that even happen?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: How did I was in Snoop's business a long time ago?
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: My wife told Snoop.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: One time, Snoop, you can't you can't be around my
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: husband smoking.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: It's like who is this lady telling us we can't smoke.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Man, We ain't listening to that man.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Who is this?
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: So next day she called it bringing my husband back
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: down here no more. You know he's not coming.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: What's wrong?
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: I told you I don't want no smoking around him.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: He's just got sober. And then that Ever since then,
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: he said, okay, where everybody put it out? So every
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: time I come and they be like right, I said,
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: what you got, m h.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I got snoop to stop smoking. At one point, right, yeah,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: after like two months or something like.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Three months, I thought it was a year of michause
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: it ain't been no year.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: So when I was when he was doing his speech,
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: he said, I said, he said, I'll.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Stop smoking for one hundred and twenty some days.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Whatever was I said, I thought it was a year.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: He said, come on, work with me, work with me,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: so you and Doggie years.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Come mind.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I told him, I said, man, you got to cut
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that out. Man. You can't be in here with these
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: kids like that. Man.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: He was like really it was like word. I was like, man,
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: come here, man, let's talk about that. I said, Man,
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: wife pregnant. You know you can't be in here smoking
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: like that. With these kids. Man, he said, okay, I said,
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: so go get your shit and throw it away. He
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: came in there with them boxes, dumped them in the
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: trash boom, just throw them all the way. And then
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: uh and so Chante said. Boss lady said, uncle Chol,
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: what'd you say to Snoop? And I started laughing. I
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: just told him that he needed to change his wicked
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: ways for a minute.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: And uh. And he did that, and it was.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: I.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: I enjoyed being around him and Tupac I was supposed
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: to he was, I had. I was coming back to
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: the to the studio the next day and Tupac was
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: in the room. I didn't know he was in that room.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: And a swell Snoop he was the day before. So
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: soon as I walked in Boyd Park just went crazy.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Everybody started jumping around. He said, I just said your
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: name two seconds and you walked in the door, and man,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: they was losing their mind.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: And he was like, oh, man, listen to this. I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: need you to sing this.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: And I said, okay, but I can't do it right
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: now because I'm here for Snoop. If he come in
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: and doing I'm saying for you, he's gonna be upsetting
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: and then.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Uh, and that's how pocket Snoop Beef started.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And then damn child.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: But so uh, I didn't get a chance to do
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: the record because Snoop we went back in his room.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: He locked her door and turned them. He said loud, loud, loud.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: He was knocking. Snoop Pak wanted to do Charlie to
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: comes in. Woom. Yeah. And about a month later he
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: got killed. I didn't get a chance to.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Do you kept you kept Snoop from leaving his wife too.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Oh man, we called him.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: My wife was talking to Chante and downstairs, and I
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: went upstairs because she was packing and she made an unpack.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Let's say, baby, you need to stay with your husband.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: It's all good, you need to And she was down
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: crying and I went upstairs. I mean, what's up? It's
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: what up? Want?
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: I said, know what's going on downstairs? I said, you
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: know your wife is getting ready to leave you or
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: he's like to leave me.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: What you mean?
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: I was like, man, she already packing. Mommy down there,
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: making her take her clothes out like she wouldn't go
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: in the world. I said, excuse me, she was crying, crying.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Crocodile tears, so she had that stuff gone look at
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: you at the door. So, uh, I talked to him
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: a long time about just family and life, and uh,
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: he sit there and listen to me. He said, Man,
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: I never heard nobody talk to me like that. So
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: I was just in his business all the time.
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but your connection is powerful. You know what I
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: mean to get snoop and stop smoking for four months
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: and then you know, even just he just looks up
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: so you can see you have a very strong connection.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was he did. He did exactly what I
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: asked him to do. Seante did exactly what my wife
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: asked her to do and make still together.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Wow about Kanye, how y'all connect like that?
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to have been doing a session with.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Easy mm hmm Easy Is.
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: Kanye not that when it's the not jezz Yeah.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: Get yeah, yeah it was uh yeah, uh uh it was.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: He didn't show up.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: We went down to the studio and uh, the guy
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: said he didn't show up. So they said it's this
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: playing something. He didn't get something.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know what. It was, some kind of message
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: they sent to me. I'm like, man, you maybe drive
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: all the way down there. I was mad as hell.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: So I went home. The next day they called Kanye
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: called that. I said, hell, can Charlie come do the
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: session with Kanye? I was like like, I said, yeah,
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: I'll call him. He said, man, you want to go
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: down to the sing with Kanye. I said yeah, let's go.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: So we came in from the back door and I said,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: here we go again. I said, where's Kanye.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: Tapped me on the shoulder, Oh you here, Yeah, okay.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: So we went in there and he played the songs
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: and my brother had my youngest brother passed, uh two
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: days after that and uh or something like that, and
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: Uh we did the songs and he said and I said, uh,
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: you wanna do something? I said, can we do something
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: some more? He's like, you want to do part two?
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: I said yeah, day two. So we went ended up
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: going to coming here out here and uh and I did.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: I don't know how many songs I did. Then he
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: wanted to produce uh.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: One of the.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Songs, it's called you Are, that was already a hit basically,
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: so we gave it to him and his his his
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: people was like yo yo yea a man, it's we
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: did everything to this recommend it's already done. Man, I
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: tried everything, everything said, man, just spring the stuff over
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: in the shit. It was already it was already a hit. Yeah,
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: but they did some try to do some stuff. Not
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: not not yet. He diliked left it alone. But uh,
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: it was already a hit.
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: When he came to your Hollywood Walker Fans ceremony, he
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: had the black mask on, dressed in all black.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, what did you think about that?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what he's doing. I haven't talked.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: I haven't really talked to him about I did talk
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: to him about it. He made me laugh at what
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: he said. I'm not gonna say what he said, but
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: what do.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: You say to.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Him? I said, why do you have the mask on?
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: No? He said the reason why I wear the mask?
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: And he told me what he said, and he just
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: fell all over me. I laughed so hard I was
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: almost on the floor. That's when we started taking pictures
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: when the ceremony was over. And uh, and I laughed
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: about what he said. So I got you know, he
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: get he get upset if you hear this, And why'd
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: you tell the people that?
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I So, I ain't gonna say what he's saying.
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: But he know what he's doing. He know he getting
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: the rise out of people exactly.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Kanye ain't crazy.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: He does things what he does, what he wants to do.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: And if I'm around, like.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: He pumps his brakes, you know a lot.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Did you have that conversation with Kim and Kanye when
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: they were going through it?
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: They say, like, you know what because people listening to you,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: because you know, g you've been through it. Because did
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: you say, Kanye, Kim wife, you go talk to Kim
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: downstairs and me go talk to Kanye always already to
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: We didn't do.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: It that way, but I did talk to Uh.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: When I called, he would give give kimnedy phone, uh,
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: you know, or he'll call and give Kim. He'll call
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: me calling somebody, or he'll call Kim, hand the phone
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: to her and she's and give it to me. And
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: I was like, what's that all about? But yeah, it's.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I could say that one.
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: You know, you could try, but you can't fix everything.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean, that's that's that's family too. Family.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: He told his people. When we was in Paris.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: I went out there, I did like fifteen records in
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: two days.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Wow. So everything did he have on his album?
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: I mean he was I recorded all of those records,
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: and I did my all of the backs and uh,
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: and then he wanted me to do all the leads,
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: and I didn't hear that part he had told he
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: had told my manager.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't know he wanted me to do all the
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: ties parts.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: I didn't do them all out, and I was trying
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: to get to it late that night. I was tied
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: horse and and then I left it alone and were
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: supposed to come back. So I saw him at my
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: at my the ceremony. He told me where he was at,
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: and I said, okay, but I had to come here
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: to do a lot of stuff. I got Good Morning
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: America in the morning and nice.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: So just for the new album that you did vocal, ok, gotcha.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: I did all of those, a lot of that stuff,
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: and he wanted to do he wants to do the
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: whole album my album and uh.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: So we didn't get a chance to do that.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: He wants to ep your new album.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Yeah, he wants wanted me to do all
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: of the stuff that we was doing for him. He
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: wanted to do a lot of He got a lot
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: of records, man, so he wanted to take those records
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: and make a record for me.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: You know you said something earlier man about the Grammys
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: and how you would never perform there. Now and I
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: think about this year, Like this year they had Celine
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: Dion showed up, Jody Mitchell performed there for the first time,
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: Billy Old was there.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Like as a as a.
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: Veteran in this game, a legend, you wouldn't want to
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: do something like that, just dude.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: I would love to, but they never asked me. Hey, man,
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing that no more with them kind of people. Man,
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing it because I don't have to do that.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: You know, the the the pages, it's that all of
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: that that I've done, and you know it don't mean nothing.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: It's to them. It's fine with me because it don't
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: really mean nothing to me. But I got.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: It because how many people you say, I got the
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: most number ones and any R and B artists in
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: this country Billboard number ones than anybody that's solo that's
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: dead are gonna. Yes, it's hard to get number ones
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: that R and B urban Back in the day, you
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: might get the top, you might get two, number two,
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: you might get top five, but.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: It's hard to get urban number one.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you might think it's number one because it's been
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: played a hundred times.
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and when you think about it, it's not really
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: too many of y'all left.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: It's you, it's Stevie Wonder, it's Ronald Eisley.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: And none of them. They have no number ones in
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: a long time, Patty LaBelle, long time. Yeah, but it's
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: all good.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: She did her thing that you know, gospels what they headed,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: and she said, okay, that's fine. You know, if you're
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: just not giving your life to the Lord, I mean
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: you should have already have give him given me your life.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Ain't never too late.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: No, no, it ain't never too late.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: But I'm saying the reason why I said it is
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: because you.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Straling the fence.
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I get you.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: You said, Patty Leabelle's graddling the fence.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: Now, I'm just saying, people that wait, and because you
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: can't get no more radio.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: You want to go gospel gospel.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Don't run over it because of that.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Right, I'm not saying Patty did that, But the show
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: looks like that.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Man, what is you talking about?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Something?
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: I'm the only one been shouting on the stage ever
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: at my concert so I ain't never stopped praising God
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: never ever, ever, ever. So the lady asked me yesterday,
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: you're gonna do a gospel album? I said I would
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: love to. But since you're over here on the station,
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: when if I do one, you tell him that Charlie
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Wilson been doing gospel all his life, and he's been
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: doing R and B all his life.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: So lets don't y'all try to.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: Get you church folks, just just try to nail him
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: up against the wall because he ran over there. It's
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: not that I'm running nowhere. I've been praying and praying
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: two or three times a day, asking God for what
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: I need to have, and so I quit asking him
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: for what I need.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I just started thanking him. Now, Lord, I know I
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: got a whole lot.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: I just want to thank you for everything I've ever
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: gotten and everything that I didn't get. So I thank
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: you because the scription says in all things, give things,
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: and so that's what I do.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Now you know, I'm having a good time. Man. Sometimes
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I can't get the words out say what I'm trying
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: to say.
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: What else is is what else is left for you?
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: Though?
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: Like what else would you like to do?
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: Is something that you want to do that you feel
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: like you haven't done yet in your career. At seventy one,
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: still smoking hot.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would like to continue doing music with these kids.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: And they still calling. Yeah, they're still calling, So they're
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: gonna keep me relevant.
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you don't see retirement no time soon.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: Well, if you gotta, if you retire, you gotta get
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: you gotta retire from being retired.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I already know that guy's gonna go because the a't
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: gonna stop. So they haven't stopped calling me yet. So
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I'm having a good time.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: And if I can just continue to do that, and
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: I don't know what else I can do other than
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: make records and uh uh, I got a documentary that
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: I'm getting ready to do because I have to tell
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: it on my side of the story the correct way.
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: That you're gonna let them know the truth and nothing
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: but the whole nothing but the truth of the whole truth,
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: for nothing but the whole truth exactly.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: And you know, I w TMZ was like, why do
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: you want your brother to make no money? What you got?
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Hear his man and everybody elses, what what are you
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: talking about? But anyway, it's all good.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: And I went through all of that, and and I
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: love my family.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I said, I don't forgive all of everybody that's ever
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: done anything to me. I don't care. And I said,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: They said, well you wait, man, when next time you
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: go do this this festival? You make you sure you
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: get sixty? I said, man, that's my payroll. What are
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: you talking about? What are you talking about crumbs? Because
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: that's what you've been used to doing. That's not my payroll. Buddy.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: You'd have a baby right now, a man having a
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: baby if you found out what I was getting.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Jolly man can have babies.
• 40:47
  Speaker 9: No, No, they cannot.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: No.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: If I'm having a baby, I'm gonna run the other way.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: You won't see me no where around for some man
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: having a baby.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: What is your relationship like with the ogs? With the
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: people I just named?
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Man a cool We're all good, We all man, we're
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: all good.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: I'm having a good time man and everybody, Uh, they
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: all see me getting getting the flowers of people have
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: given me that they know that I deserve and that
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: I shouldn't have got, should have gotten a long time ago.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: But I'm happy, man, in my life, because I'm happy
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: with my my my immediate family. That's my life now,
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: my support family and my real family. So hey, man,
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: there's nothing that I need. I was always telling my wife, listen,
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: I just got to get this eight hundred million from
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: this to get this lot off. She was like, what
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: are you gonna do with that? I said, what what's mean?
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: It's is what are you gonna do with all of that?
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: I said, I don't know. Maybe just was throw it
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: over you, you know, on the top of the bed,
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: sleep on it.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: What She was like, you don't need that, we don't
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: need that. We have enough.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: I was like, come on, baby, it's a lot of
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: I want to you know, I want to take you
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: on the cruise.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know these yachts.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, four hundred foot yachts whatever. I was like, let's
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: get do So she said, I don't want to do
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: that and we don't need that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I said, okay, yeah.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: So you didn't played a lot of You didn't play
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of that.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I've been playing a lot of I think, to god,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: he because we don't need that.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: You think we could ever rebuild something like Black Wall Street.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: You made me think about that just now.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: Man, I would love to build it. That would be great.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: You can do that with the mill. That would be
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: great to do that, and in my hometown, it would
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: be great. Ah if I had, if I got the
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: two bill and one of them, a lot of those
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: hit hard like that. That's why I would go to
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: do that.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Rebuild Black Wall Street in your hometown.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Yes, because that is where it was. That's greenwood, greenwood, greenwood,
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: arch and pine. That's right down there on Greenwood. Yes, sir,
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: so that's what I would do. I'm glad you said that, man.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: But I'm having a good time in life, man, and
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: I don't need nothing. She's right, I don't really need nothing.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: We have a lot. We have love, and that's all
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: we really need. You know.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate you for joining us. And I told
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: you last time you said, you know, we can make
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: it all right? Was my wedding song and a cappella. Yeah,
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: the words in that song, if you never listen.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: To it, you just google it.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Listen to the words and we can make it all right.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: They don't put nothing on your voice any Charlie when
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: you're in the studio.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: That's all I drank.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: I drunk a lot of it before I go saying
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: I have to have at least a gaunt the water
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: in my system.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Here.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: He takes all the mucles and everything down. I used
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: to warm up a different way and and uh. And
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: one guy said, you're doing all that. That's not it.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: You're rolling up, warming up the wrong way. I said, Well,
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: that's what I was talking about seth Riggs years ago.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: He said, but that was the old school way. But
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, just drink this water. Man. I was like, Wow,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: that's good for me.
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: I like it't been doing it ever since.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: That's all I've been doing.
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: Still hitting them vocals like that.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: Man, I got it. Can I say this about uh
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: baby face? I will tell you something.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: He wrote a song for the Gap Band and me
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: years ago, and it was.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I want to Rock with your baby.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: So he wrote that song for me.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: Wow, but it wasn't that wasn't the original version he
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: produced that in there because he left the a version
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: because he had wrote that for the Gap Band and
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: me and me. So uh So the other day he said, man,
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: when we was he was doing his speech, he was
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: talking about you know that he came down to the
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: total experience and he left him and said, no trying
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: them said he.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Don't like that record.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: People they man, he ain't lied on me, man, And
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: so all those years Kenny was mad. He was really
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: hurt about that that came out and said, I said
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: that we don't like the record.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: But now man, he said, Man, I found the original
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: of that. I want to hear that.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: I said, come on, man, get the thing together. Let's
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: go put the record out. Because and then up with
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Bobby Brown end up.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: With the record, right, yeah, absolutely classic.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, why did you give all my records
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: to Bobby Brown? Man? What happened? Evan?
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: Then it's got about that, man.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Every record that he did was for me.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Come on, man, that was reverence because you didn't like
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: the records.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Bobby he gave it everything.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because he thought I said that he can't produce
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: and he can't produce for the gap bed and all that.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: So he stayed mad, angry, hurt feelings. Not angry, but
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: hurt feelings. Twenty five years.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Wow, wow, long time baby faith of Kenny Kenny.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, babyface.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: And I been used to tell him, I man, I swear,
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: I said, man, I swear, I'm god.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I never ever said that.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: And I told him he used to tell him a
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: year after year after year after year, and finally he said,
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: like I said, Man, he didn't say this.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I believe it. Now I believe it. Yeah. I don't
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: know man, whoever was, but I know my problem. My
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: brother said it.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's just miscommunication.
• 46:47
  Speaker 9: It was a lie.
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: There was a lie, a lie. But I mean listening,
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: that's God right, because we don't get Bobby Brown.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: If that don't happen, maybe if.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I would Charlie like I wanted to.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: I wanted that record.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: I wanted that record because well, first of all, I
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: never heard it, but when I heard his version, because
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: what what Kennedy did? He just went on produced the record,
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: produced the producer till it got what it would be
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: for Bobby. You know, it would work for him, you
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: know because after Yearning for Your Love, that Rock with
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: You record was that was the next record for us.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: That's why he brought.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: It, and it would have followed Yearning for Your Love.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: And it didn't get it didn't work it, it didn't
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: make it. So but now she's good because I'm gonna
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: get the record I was supposed to have in the
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: in the beginning, man, he said, just give me a
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: little time. I have it ready, I was, like, asked Mica.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: I said, how he saydn't rushim, don't rush, just let
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: him going on do it. I said, I ain't gonna
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: rush him. So he should be through with it about a
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: couple of weeks.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: So he working on something for you know.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: He's working on it now.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: So y'all doing another the O G version of I
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: Want to.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Rocket, the very first version of it. Wow.
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, every little step had to be Bobby though, because
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: you couldn't dance like Bobby.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: What? Wow, what you're talking about?
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Like that?
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: Get Alex class up that thing for you?
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: He said, I had to be trying to come on, man,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: you can't do that step.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: Bobby was no joke with them feet now, man, John,
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: he wasn't no joke.
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: But guess where he got it from. Man, come on, man,
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: you gotta understand them kids. I took them kids on
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: their first tour new edition. Yeah it was a gap
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: band and uh and but the other guys would always say.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: It was Rick James. Rick James ain't showed you no steps, man,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: he can't dance. Got wrong with you.
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: Rick James wasn't getting taken all his clothes off it
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: was me hoping the speakers.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: You didn't Rick James didn't. He was doing the same
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: day he saw me du because I was on.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I was a roll with him too.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, come on man, Yeah, but his buddies they didn't
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: want but they didn't want to give me that.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: That's all good and no problem. Bibuld just be sitting
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: like this.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: He dropped his head when they're still talking because he
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: know what's going on.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I don't don't go, get ship, don't go.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: You don't play with him? Now, you don't play with
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: y'all play with him. I got some move now.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I was just show he was.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: He was humping the speaker, he was, he was, don't
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: play with him, now, don't play with.
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I was taking on my shirt and that was everything.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: And and was pulling them gonna pull him down.
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: And and uh and uh, and the squirrels were screaming
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: hot they my brothers coming.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I don't pull them down. It's like it was just
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: like a little acting all over that floor. All over
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the floor. Man, I'll be humping speaker, slide down, hump
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: the other one.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: It was all what what other records that you you
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: miss out on? Like you like damn, I should have
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: did that.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: Well, no, it's just it's like I used to talk
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: to Teddy and I said, I come on, man, y'all
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: know you know that uh uh my paratic you know
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: all that stuff Bobby did. I said, you know that's yeah, man,
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: it was for you, you know, but I was thinking
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: of you because you know that's what we got our
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: That's why I got my stuff from it. So you
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: forget man throw the floor he called it foe to
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: the floor, and uh but it so, I mean, it's
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: just all that was. That was I was the move.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: I played the move base on all of the records.
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: On the up tempos, I played those basis bass parts,
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: so he copying that parts and and.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: It's all good. Man.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: It was the way back A long time ago. Man,
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: I don't trip no more. But I felt it was good.
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: And when I first heard guy, I said, I was like,
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: a man, is that my voice?
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: What is that?
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: I thought it was some I was like, man, I
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: was like, wow, you was inspiration. Yeah it was it
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: was Aaron. Aaron said, man, I carried your picture in
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: my back pocket. Wow. I was like, wow. Okay, that
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: boy was saying, I'm sure.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: They give you the credit though they always have. Yeah, Aeron,
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: he was talking too much. They made him stop talking
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: about it, teach me. I was like, man, he would
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: be the saying, oh man, it was Aaron was something else.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Man, it's still like my son today. I love him
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: to death.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: All over the world wherever I was going out to
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: see him and we would just be talking.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: He did yearning for your love. I said, let me
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: do one one of your records, just because you did
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: one of one of ours.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: And so I loved him. Man, I still love guy.
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: That was hope that they could get it back because
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: I used to tell him. I said, I know you
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: shaved your head, and that bought and shaved his head.
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: He got a cane and r Kelly. I said, Aaron,
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: don't let him put another record out. You gotta go
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: and put your record out. Y'all put another record out.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: Then all of a sudden, I don't see nothing wrong.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: I said, Okay, it's on now.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Man. You told him that.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, so you seen him.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: You've seen it happening.
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've seen it happen. I said, don't let him
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: put another record out. You got to put a record
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: out now. And then they didn't get that fast enough,
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: because when that said coming to that bumping.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Ground, I was like, it's gone.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: Now he gone, you know, so it's no getting it back.
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: When the art to do that, R Kelly went back
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: in those days. He kept writing and writing and writing
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: and writing, and it didn't stop. And then you know,
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: you gotta wait on Teddy. Teddy is writing for everybody,
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: Heavy Dan, the boys. He's going he right for everybody.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: So he ain't back at a guy right now. He
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: ain't doing that. And you know Black Street, he's doing
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: a lot of other stuf.
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: Now you see I do hear a lot of Charlie
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: in airon now when you say that, like, don't be
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: afraid that could have definitely.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: Been Man, come on, man, this is my kids. Yeah,
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: it happened a long time ago back there. Yeah, but
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: I'm having fun. I had fun then, I'm still having fun.
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: I love all those guys, and I love all of
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: the kids that are coming now to me and and
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: and still getting the records, and it makes me feel good.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold y'all all day. Man, I see
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: you over there. He's ready to go. Boy. I love
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of them, but I ain't gonna.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say it.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: I can't see my I can't see my manager's face.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: He's behind it. But if he was over there.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: He'd be like, that's good.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: Stories before like before sober sobriety.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: We get mad, he'll tell me when he don't want
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: me to do he'll be.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: Like mm hmm, yeah, cut it out.
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: Because sometimes I have been telling some of the stuff
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: that was done to me, and I get it excited
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: because I did that yesterday. I was I was just.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Going going, and I got angry. I was like, I
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't angry.
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: I just took too far, and I said, you know what,
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: we can get sued, So don't put that out. Don't
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: don't play that. Yeah, lady said, okay.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: What was it about people get sued?
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: I just said that because it shouldn't heard like that.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: I was going at it too hard about it, and
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: you off. You kind of got a little angry at
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: then you, sir.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: But I respect y'all.
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: You got your supporters, and you got your wife, you
• 54:25
  Speaker 7: got your manager, and you even turned to them to
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: look and see a lot of people don't even they.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: Don't listen to the people around.
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: No, No, they're just going at it and then they
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: getting the getting some paperwork in four days from that.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care, man, I said, I'm gonna say
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: what I gotta saying.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: Should you you paid? You paid the cost? You that
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: you've grown seventy one?
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: Listen, that's what.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Y'all gonna do next? Man, What you're gonna do next? Man?
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: Keep running his mouth up here every day, every day,
• 54:53
  Speaker 8: keep running his mouth. He keeps saying, Okay, why would
• 54:57
  Speaker 8: you ask me?
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: He cannot God, he cannot dance. He cannot sing a dance.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Now you know what I can do for fifteen years.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: You can't do none of that.
• 55:07
  Speaker 7: He's basically telling you to close the interview. But you
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: don't get the hint he told you.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: He did it twice to you already.
• 55:12
  Speaker 9: He's got nothing going on, and people come up here.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: Twice and I know you're ready to go. Then he said,
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: what y'all want to do next?
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: And you ain't?
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: You just staring at him. Thank you for coming, mister Wilson.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: We appreciate you. Let's play Superman right now.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Many males introduce it.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Let's introduce the record, y'all.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: This is Uncle Charlie Charlty last name Wilson. This is
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: my new single. It's cause Superman.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: It's The Breakfast Club, Good Morning, wake that ass up
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: in the morning.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club