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Make or Blake · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with her radio. Welcome to the almost Famous podcast. We're
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Speaker 1: here for another episode. Ashley I Connetti, the wonderful, the talented,
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Speaker 1: the spunky. How is your How was your holiday weekend?
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Speaker 1: It was wonderful. Um. We just went over to her
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Speaker 1: friend's house. She had the most cute Instagram where these spread. Um.
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Speaker 1: It was in Arlington, Virginia, so we got to see
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Speaker 1: the fireworks from her rooftop, which was really cool. And
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Speaker 1: I mean, like the National fireworks, which is really awesome.
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Speaker 1: I've only seen them a couple of times, even though,
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Speaker 1: like I've grown up in Virginia, I've only gone to
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Speaker 1: see the DC fireworks couple of times because you know,
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Speaker 1: it's crazy, um to get in there and all that, um,
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Speaker 1: and like, other than that, pretty relaxing laid by the pool.
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Speaker 1: Lois floated out on the pool with Jared, which is
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Speaker 1: really cute. But that's about it. What about you? Well,
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Speaker 1: I am back in Indie, Sienna on the lake Whyno Lake,
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Speaker 1: Indiana represent I'm here right now looking out at the lake. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And I just came off the boat to do this podcast.
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Speaker 1: So that's something. Now, Jessica's family, uh came in, so
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Speaker 1: her parents both came in. They did that last year
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Speaker 1: and then uh, Jessica's here still they left and my
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Speaker 1: parents so we did three full days agether it was
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Speaker 1: a blast, like we had an amazing time. Why not.
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Speaker 1: No lake really does Fourth of July in a big way.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of so a lot of families around here
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Speaker 1: call it like their designated Christmas um because kids go
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Speaker 1: off and do different things. They don't want to come
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Speaker 1: back to Indiana for the winner. And so this is
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Speaker 1: where like families get together, they do their big dinners.
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Speaker 1: They do like I'll like the kids come in. Here's
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Speaker 1: the crazy part and this has no I really don't
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Speaker 1: want this to come off judgmental, um, but I'm a
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Speaker 1: huge fan of fireworks. I grew up. I just love
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Speaker 1: lighting of firework and see explodes, seeing the colors, seeing
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Speaker 1: what's gonna do. It's always a surprise. There's like just
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Speaker 1: a like a mystery to it and like a power
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Speaker 1: to It's it's a great thing right to do. I
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Speaker 1: really enjoy. I don't understand the idea of fireworks. So,
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Speaker 1: for example, our neighbor here in the lake, uh lives
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Speaker 1: a couple of houses down he bought ten thousand dollars
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Speaker 1: with the fireworks and an incredible show that he put on.
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Speaker 1: An incredible show. I mean it's beautiful and the whole
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Speaker 1: neighborhood gets together to the watch it. But I just
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Speaker 1: so it feels like professional fireworks, like when you go
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Speaker 1: to like somewhere that the town puts on. I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you would never know or there firecracks. What's the worst
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Speaker 1: in firecrackers and fireworks? And like fireworks are the big ones,
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Speaker 1: then firecrackers are the little things you buy the stands. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: firecrackers are the things that like Jessica lights off, she's
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Speaker 1: allowed to buy fireworks in Indiana. Oh yeah, we do.
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Speaker 1: It depends on the stage. Yeah, it depends on the state.
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Speaker 1: Well we have. I mean the whole lake was full
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Speaker 1: of them at night, uh during the fourth So yes,
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Speaker 1: you can definitely buy him here. But nothing really says
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Speaker 1: like America like ten th dollars going up in flames
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Speaker 1: and like five minutes, you know, it just feels wild
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Speaker 1: and and every sort of the way. Now again there's
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Speaker 1: nothing like it's a really incredible thing to watch, but
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Speaker 1: then when you're done, you're like whoa like that. That
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Speaker 1: was just a lot of money up in the air,
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Speaker 1: Like it's just it's just a weird time. Okay, whatever,
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Speaker 1: whatever you want to spend your money on. I guess hey,
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Speaker 1: why not. Well, hey, it was a good holiday weekend.
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Speaker 1: The weather is nice in Indiana. But we did take
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Speaker 1: some time to sit down with all of you to
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Speaker 1: talk about this week's episode of the Bachelorette. It continues
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Speaker 1: to be a great season. Katie continues to be a
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Speaker 1: terrific bachelorette. We're here to break it down for you
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Speaker 1: right now, but before we do, we want to wish
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Speaker 1: you all a great holiday weekend, a great week. But
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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break and we'll come back with
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Speaker 1: almost same as podcasts. Alright, guys, it is time to
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Speaker 1: recap episode five of Katie season. Um. Alrighty, Well, this
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Speaker 1: is actually like a really simple step by step episode,
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Speaker 1: very classic. We had our one on one, we had
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Speaker 1: our group date, we had another one on one, and
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Speaker 1: we had a roast ceremony, and really there wasn't a
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Speaker 1: ton of drama. The biggest, you know, topic number one
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Speaker 1: is definitely Blake coming in. I liked the way that
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Speaker 1: they started out with Caitlin taking a walk and being like, so,
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Speaker 1: how was it when Nick came on? And just having
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Speaker 1: that relatability factor and having Caitlyn there for her that
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Speaker 1: made a lot of sense. I like that. And then
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Speaker 1: I liked the fact that Taitia came in and in
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Speaker 1: your kind of like previewed what was going to happen
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Speaker 1: to the guys by saying like I know this, I like,
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Speaker 1: I trust him, I hope, and and like I'm vouching
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Speaker 1: for him here. So like, I think that was kind
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Speaker 1: of her way of saying, like, let's not make this
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Speaker 1: so dramatic right now. Um, and the guys really like
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Speaker 1: they didn't I didn't really freak out. I think they
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Speaker 1: kind of obeyed what she wanted. Yeah, I found this
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Speaker 1: is an interesting part. And tell me if I'm crazy, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: but Blake walks in, you would expect the guys to
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Speaker 1: be shocked, every one of them to be shocked. They
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Speaker 1: were very prepared by what said. I think I think
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Speaker 1: they were very prepared. I don't think they were happy
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Speaker 1: about it, but this would be a moment, as like
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Speaker 1: a bachelorette and bachelor, that you're really seeing how like
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Speaker 1: you're judging how people react, you're kind of watching and
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Speaker 1: seeing Okay, who here seems like overly angry? Who see
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Speaker 1: here seems just like completely like jealous. Who here isn't
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Speaker 1: happy about it? Like nobody is happy that anybody else
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Speaker 1: is there, but they're handling it like that's This is
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Speaker 1: one of those controversial pivot points that we talked about
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Speaker 1: every season that I feel like she was probably watching
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Speaker 1: who hands like how did the people handle it? Now?
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Speaker 1: And we knew this was going to happen, and I'm
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Speaker 1: glad it did. I don't think it was good for
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Speaker 1: the guys, but for them him didn't get a one
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Speaker 1: on one before somebody else like that would have probably
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Speaker 1: disappointed me personally. If I was one of those guys,
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Speaker 1: I would have just been like a little bumped. Do
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Speaker 1: you remember what happened with Nick on Caitlin season when
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Speaker 1: did he get his first one on one? Well, we
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Speaker 1: it was a different story with Nick, because doesn't it
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Speaker 1: feel so much different a little bit? But we also
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Speaker 1: found out uh dirt, like when Nick came in. I
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Speaker 1: forget how exactly, so don't quiz me on it. But
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Speaker 1: I do remember knowing that Nick and Caitlin had talked
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Speaker 1: before and had probably seen each other, like within the
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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, And so we knew that Nick
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Speaker 1: and Caitlin had a history of some kind. We didn't
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Speaker 1: know the extent, We didn't know how much they had talked,
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Speaker 1: but we knew they had some history when he came on,
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Speaker 1: and so it was less of a just one more
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Speaker 1: guy thing two more of oh my gosh, like he's
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Speaker 1: gonna walk in and sweep this thing away, like we're
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Speaker 1: all done, like they they were dating before the show.
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Speaker 1: This has all been one big set up. Now we
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Speaker 1: find out it wasn't, like, but that was going through
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Speaker 1: our minds at the time. That's what all the guys
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes were talking about, like, Hey, did we
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Speaker 1: just get totally like set up here? Now we obviously
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Speaker 1: didn't and they didn't play out like that. Yeah, So
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Speaker 1: Blake gets the one on one and I think it
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Speaker 1: went exactly how we assumed it would go, really well.
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Speaker 1: You know, they proved to be pretty compatible. And she
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Speaker 1: said like she can imagine walking out of this thing
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Speaker 1: with him, which is pretty huge. Uh, And I kind
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Speaker 1: of I can see it too, Like I think like
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Speaker 1: Blake went to top three, top yeah, top three in
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Speaker 1: that day. Can we talk about something for a moment
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Speaker 1: that wasn't brought up, and it could just be my insecurities.
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Speaker 1: But I had watched two full seasons. It's soon as
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Speaker 1: I started to get asked, Hey, do you are you
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Speaker 1: interesting to be on the show? I started to watch
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Speaker 1: as many season as I could on television. And you
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Speaker 1: and I have both admitted that when you show up
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Speaker 1: and you meet the bachelor or Bachelor, they, in a
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Speaker 1: lot of ways feel like a celebrity. You're nervous, You've
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Speaker 1: seen him on TV, you've seen him on the cover
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Speaker 1: of magazines, and now you're there in front of them,
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Speaker 1: and for a short pid period of time, you're very
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Speaker 1: kind of star struck in a way. Is there any
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Speaker 1: of that going on with Katie meeting Blake? Like she
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Speaker 1: had watched him on television, she had watched his season.
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Speaker 1: Now she has already been on but then you know,
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Speaker 1: he kind of comes in and she already knows a
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Speaker 1: bit about him. Like, is there an infatuation with Oh,
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Speaker 1: I've watched you on TV? Could that be playing into this? Yeah? No,
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Speaker 1: Like I get it, but like Katie is also on
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Speaker 1: the same level, if not higher, Like people are going
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Speaker 1: to make it like that like she's the star here,
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Speaker 1: so like, does the star really get star struck by
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Speaker 1: the supporting character? Yes, I don't think. Actually I've told
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Speaker 1: you this. I was star struck when I met you
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Speaker 1: the you know you know this, like when I met you,
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Speaker 1: you know this the first time I met you as
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Speaker 1: and I was already announced announced the bachelor, or at
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Speaker 1: least I was knowing I was going to become the bachelor,
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Speaker 1: like they had already kind of told me. I met
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Speaker 1: you the first time. I remember that day, and I go,
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Speaker 1: I've watched her on television, like I know this human
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Speaker 1: like it's it's just a thing. Like I don't think
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Speaker 1: there's like a hierarchy here. Okay, okay, so two different
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Speaker 1: ways of seeing it. I don't know that that's really
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Speaker 1: playing a role here. I think there is a benefit
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Speaker 1: to their being, um there being like a familiar rare
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Speaker 1: how do you say that word of familiarity? Yeah, just
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Speaker 1: kind of role the RNL and then just keep going,
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Speaker 1: yeah with this person like you feel like you already
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Speaker 1: kind of know them, which I feel like makes conversation
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Speaker 1: easier because you can kind of use what you already
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Speaker 1: know fair enough. And and and there there was just like, uh,
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Speaker 1: I felt like there was a on this to their
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Speaker 1: first interaction. I felt like there's a calmness to this date.
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Speaker 1: I think they both knew how to date on this show.
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Speaker 1: I think that has an advantage like that. That's also
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Speaker 1: what I mean when it's a familiarity, just like an
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Speaker 1: ease the experience. Yeah, how far did he go on
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Speaker 1: Tatious season? Pretty far? Um? I think he was top
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Speaker 1: five Okay, which is wild. It's funny He's like, I
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Speaker 1: haven't felt this way in the longest time, Like, so,
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Speaker 1: you didn't feel that way about Tasia and it didn't
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Speaker 1: feel that way about Claire even though you said it. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think it's also kind of crazy that it keeps
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Speaker 1: saying that he was like dumb this twice before. It's like, no,
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Speaker 1: he didn't. He was on a season where the league
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Speaker 1: dropped out. He was on one season before not to
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Speaker 1: let's not make it seem like that. I do think,
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Speaker 1: I mean, from what I'm watching on television, I mean,
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Speaker 1: the biggest controversy with Blake is gonna be I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what he's done in his personal life,
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Speaker 1: but it's gonna be, Oh, you're just out to date
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Speaker 1: the Bachelor. That's gonna be the thing that everybody's talking about. Now.
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Speaker 1: I don't really buy that, because I think this is
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Speaker 1: a a good opportunity. I think the bachelorets are always
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Speaker 1: incredible people, and so of course you would want to
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Speaker 1: date them, and if you get the opportunity, like, go
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Speaker 1: for it, your single, give it a shot. I'm not
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Speaker 1: I just also and I'm assuming this. I don't know
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Speaker 1: Blake at all. Never met him. Uh he we did interview. Okay,
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Speaker 1: well that's it. But I feel like he's a hopeless romantic.
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Speaker 1: I feel like he is. It's easy for him to
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Speaker 1: become very interested in somebody because he wants to like
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Speaker 1: fall him up? Now does he Is he going to?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think that's why you probably
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Speaker 1: see him going, oh my gosh, I really like Claire,
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I really like Tasia, Oh my gosh,
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Speaker 1: I really like like Katie. Like I don't think that's
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Speaker 1: hard for him to get to. I think he's probably
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Speaker 1: in it most times when he meets somebody as incredible
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Speaker 1: as those three. Yeah, and also, let's remind everyone that
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Speaker 1: he also slid into Claire's d MS before the show.
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Speaker 1: He's a little d M slider. There you go. So
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Speaker 1: was I uh, he was actually eliminated seventh seventh okay, seventh, okay? Well, um,
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Speaker 1: anything else to say about that? Well, I think we
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Speaker 1: should point out that Katie did bring up her sexual
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Speaker 1: assault history again one on one with Blake. She brought
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Speaker 1: it up during the date with the group date with
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Speaker 1: Nick and I and it's I think it's just important
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Speaker 1: that like all these guys know about that. And I
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Speaker 1: think what an incredible thing for Katie to do. To know,
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Speaker 1: it's bringing awareness to something that so many have to
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Speaker 1: suffer through and are healing from, and she took this
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Speaker 1: opportunity to do it. And I mean, I think the
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Speaker 1: amount of conversations around it, and then also the promotion
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Speaker 1: of RAIN and some of the organizations that people can
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Speaker 1: support who are going out to help, is really incredible.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I she falls in love. I hope this
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Speaker 1: is a great love story if all, If that doesn't
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Speaker 1: work out, A huge win for this season and for
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Speaker 1: Katie's kind of legacy on The Bachelor is to bring
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Speaker 1: these conversations to a head so that we can start
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Speaker 1: having him again. I think that the fact that she
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Speaker 1: brings up that she wanted to pursue a relationship, and
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Speaker 1: she went after that guy so intensely afterwards is a
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Speaker 1: part of the story that is probably relatable to a
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Speaker 1: lot of women, and that's something that nobody talks about,
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Speaker 1: just so that she like had a different sense about
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Speaker 1: the experience. But well, she's uh and and you know,
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Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed watching Katie. I think the way she's
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Speaker 1: navigated this thing, uh, not perfectly, but who does. But
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Speaker 1: just it's been really I'm really engaged in her season,
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Speaker 1: uh and kind of how she's navigating it and how
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Speaker 1: she's dealing with these conversations and what she's bringing the light, uh,
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Speaker 1: and who she's choosing and who she's not choosing. So
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Speaker 1: Katie's done extremely well. And then you know, we see
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Speaker 1: the end of this day. Are you shocked at all
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Speaker 1: that Blake gets a rose? I'm assuming not. And you
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Speaker 1: just made this comment you think he's jumped up to
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Speaker 1: top three? Wow? Yeah, because I think like top I
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Speaker 1: think top four is Greg Andrew, Blake and Michael. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think Connor b was up
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Speaker 1: there for me. He's definitely dropped down, Yeah, dropped. I
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Speaker 1: don't think she's not attracted to him. Yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: he's dropped. He had a great first impression, but we've
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Speaker 1: kind of seen how that first impression can fade and
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Speaker 1: and so I don't I'm with you. I'm looking at
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Speaker 1: these names right now. Season there is it happens, uh,
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Speaker 1: and so we've gotten to see these other stories kind
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Speaker 1: of be highlighted. Well, then we have a group date.
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Speaker 1: After Blake gets to Rose, we have a group date
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Speaker 1: and it has Greg, Courtney, Aaron, Mike, p Michael, a Andrew,
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Speaker 1: m Josh, Justin, Brendan j Names, Connor, Betray and Hunter.
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Speaker 1: That is a big group of people. How do we
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Speaker 1: have this many people still left? Well, a lot of
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Speaker 1: them we don't really know. And I do feel like
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Speaker 1: this Rose ceremony cut out a lot of the guys
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Speaker 1: that we didn't have any sort of attachment to. Uh.
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Speaker 1: This was one of those athletic group dates which we
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Speaker 1: all you know, someone always gets hurt. The big takeaway
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Speaker 1: here during this is that Hunter is like crazy aggressive
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Speaker 1: and he thinks he's impressing Katie by like tackling these
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Speaker 1: guys and annoying and annoying them. And then Michael gets
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Speaker 1: hurt and Katie calls the game, and she brought up
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Speaker 1: the point that if Michael had to go to the hospital,
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Speaker 1: he would have been debubbled, right, he would have been
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Speaker 1: taken out of the bubble and then not allowed back in.
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Speaker 1: How crazy is that. I didn't think about that at all?
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Speaker 1: How I mean, Yeah, A whole new element to this
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Speaker 1: experience is like you can't get hurt, which surprises me
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Speaker 1: that the show is so willing to put. Mean, We've
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Speaker 1: had a couple of dates so far that people definitely
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Speaker 1: could have got hurt at. Like, I'm shocked that somebody
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Speaker 1: hasn't got seriously injured at him wrestling. Uh this, I mean,
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Speaker 1: You've grown humans going full speed at each other, some
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Speaker 1: to like destroy the other person. Like, I mean, I'm
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Speaker 1: surprised the show is taking that risk, but I guess
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Speaker 1: it does add a dramatic element. But if Michael would
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Speaker 1: have gone home, I honestly think Bachelor Nation just completely
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Speaker 1: like erupts like that they are so angry he is
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Speaker 1: he has to if he's not a kiddie, he has
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Speaker 1: to be considered for the next Bachelor. I need to
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Speaker 1: watch him. Everything stops, everything, everything when he's on screen.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, this is we gotta focus in. He's
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Speaker 1: so captivating and just the sweetest And that was another
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Speaker 1: like takeaway from this this group day is that he
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Speaker 1: kind of reveals to all the guys he can find
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Speaker 1: been in a few earlier in the season that he's
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Speaker 1: a widow. And the emotional reaction from these guys Greg
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Speaker 1: really really really hit him. Started crying. Um, They're just
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Speaker 1: like he's so happy, He's like so positive, and you
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Speaker 1: would just never know that this guy was going he
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Speaker 1: went through this and I love him. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: he's just Oh, he's just the sweetest thing. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: do you think here's my question though, so we obviously
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Speaker 1: see Wells Franco as the commentators for this date, do
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Speaker 1: you think Franco just like quarantines for the whole entire season? Like,
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Speaker 1: is he on set the whole time? Because this is
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Speaker 1: a couple of times we've seen him, not just this season,
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Speaker 1: but like he pops up, you know, he does a
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Speaker 1: couple host a couple of dates. Do you think he's
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Speaker 1: just hanging out? No, it'sn't only been one day this season,
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Speaker 1: well sure, but two completely different dates. I just wonder,
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Speaker 1: I mean, if he pops up again this season, we
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Speaker 1: gotta get him on the podcast. I gotta ask him
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Speaker 1: how much time he spends on set. I mean it
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Speaker 1: has to be weeks. Well, it wasn't it last year?
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Speaker 1: Then he dressed up people. Yeah, so I'm just wanting
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Speaker 1: if he comes up again. Yeah, he's on call. Why not?
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Speaker 1: I mean, he shows up. They did great wells and
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Speaker 1: Franco hilarious. Uh, they do really well together. I'm with
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Speaker 1: the ash. I don't have a problem with this date
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Speaker 1: as much as I do like just straight out wrestling. Uh.
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Speaker 1: I would have probably semi enjoyed being a part of
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Speaker 1: this date, just from the athletic side of it and
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Speaker 1: the competition side. But there's really no good way. The
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Speaker 1: worst part of this date is there's just no good
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Speaker 1: way to like show your true character. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: guess kind of hunter did I guess? I guess that
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Speaker 1: was a good Yeah, we saw his true character, but
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Speaker 1: it's just hard. You kind of either get lost in
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Speaker 1: the mix and it just doesn't feel like the dates
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Speaker 1: that we love. I would definitely rather have the Nick
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Speaker 1: File like sit down talk than I with this one.
19:01
Speaker 1: Same same and even last week's scavenger Hunt or whatever
19:04
Speaker 1: that was, I don't understand I mean, I don't understand
19:11
Speaker 1: Katie's thing with Hunter. I don't get I mean, like
19:15
Speaker 1: it seems like he you know, she looked at pictures
19:17
Speaker 1: of him with with his kids and she was like,
19:19
Speaker 1: oh my god, like there's such a light around you,
19:21
Speaker 1: like you look like a whole different person. But like,
19:25
Speaker 1: I don't feel any chemistry there for her to give
19:27
Speaker 1: him the group date. Rose is interesting. How do you
19:30
Speaker 1: how did you deal with group date Roses, because like,
19:32
Speaker 1: obviously we know that the same person is not going
19:34
Speaker 1: to get it every single week. You know, it's it's
19:36
Speaker 1: at all an alternating thing. You know. They were talking
19:41
Speaker 1: about how important that group date was and how it
19:43
Speaker 1: was like a first impression Rose. I'm like, no, one isn't, guys,
19:46
Speaker 1: it's whoever stood out this week, who didn't stand out
19:49
Speaker 1: the week before. I'll give you a little secret, okay. Uh,
19:54
Speaker 1: how I gave group group date Roses was this, Uh,
19:57
Speaker 1: there was obviously an attraction. Um there was like it
20:01
Speaker 1: wasn't just hey, I'm gonna give this to this person
20:04
Speaker 1: for no reason, but there was a little strategy to
20:08
Speaker 1: it because I wanted One of my biggest fears was
20:13
Speaker 1: that everybody would leave at some point because they just
20:16
Speaker 1: felt like, oh, this isn't worth it for me anymore.
20:18
Speaker 1: Like he's not into it, he's gone, So I tried
20:20
Speaker 1: to spread him out. Yeah, that's a better way to
20:25
Speaker 1: say it. Yes, not Roses. That mean they mean something,
20:29
Speaker 1: for sure, I think. But I think it's more like
20:33
Speaker 1: you stood out to me today type of rather than
20:36
Speaker 1: like a you stand out to me amongst the crowd
20:40
Speaker 1: all the time, Rose, I would not look too far.
20:43
Speaker 1: If I'm a viewer, I'm not watching this going he
20:45
Speaker 1: got the group day Rose. That means he's like top three.
20:47
Speaker 1: It's just saying, hey, this week, she knows she wants
20:50
Speaker 1: to know a little bit more about him, so he
20:52
Speaker 1: can be around next week. Like there's not a question
20:54
Speaker 1: that she wants him here and and so I'm gonna
20:57
Speaker 1: give this to him just so like he knows that.
21:01
Speaker 1: Like I'm still into it. Like that that's all I
21:03
Speaker 1: see in it. There's not there is not at all
21:07
Speaker 1: the first impression Rose type weight to it. And uh,
21:11
Speaker 1: but I will say on Caitlyns season, when I got
21:13
Speaker 1: a group, they rose and I can't remember how many, God,
21:16
Speaker 1: I think maybe two. Uh, it's a good feeling like
21:20
Speaker 1: it definitely like energizes you. It gives you a little confidence,
21:24
Speaker 1: it validates kind of what you're feeling and thinking. And
21:26
Speaker 1: so I think they're impactful. I just don't think they're
21:30
Speaker 1: extremely meaningful. Well, actually, I want to hear your thoughts
21:35
Speaker 1: because I know you're You and I both are big
21:38
Speaker 1: fans of Michael uh and we're both fans of of
21:42
Speaker 1: Katie and Michael's relationship. Well, Michael's moment with Katie on
21:46
Speaker 1: this group date is is something spectacular. I mean, when
21:51
Speaker 1: she she's caring for him, but the comment that he
21:54
Speaker 1: makes such a smooth line. I don't see him as
21:57
Speaker 1: a smooth dude, but such a smooth line like can
21:59
Speaker 1: I kiss you? And and she comes back with an
22:02
Speaker 1: incredible response, you can kiss me anytime. You give me
22:07
Speaker 1: all you want, all you want, you can kiss me
22:10
Speaker 1: all you want. I mean, what a moment, What a
22:13
Speaker 1: moment for their relationship. It's so cute. Who would have thought.
22:17
Speaker 1: I didn't think at all. The first week. I was like,
22:21
Speaker 1: now it's a little nerd, that's why we love him.
22:26
Speaker 1: But that was that was a big moment for me.
22:28
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy is definitely up there, like
22:29
Speaker 1: he's not I mean I've always known he's top three,
22:31
Speaker 1: but like this could be something special, Like she is
22:34
Speaker 1: into it, he's getting more study as time goes on,
22:37
Speaker 1: to like he's getting hotter. Isn't that weird how that happens?
22:40
Speaker 1: We just talked about like first impression roses kind of
22:42
Speaker 1: fade or first impressions like kind of disappear, uh for
22:46
Speaker 1: whatever reason. But the one that kind of sneaks up
22:49
Speaker 1: on you and the first couple of weeks like I
22:51
Speaker 1: don't really notice him, and then all of a sudden,
22:53
Speaker 1: like or her, and you're like, oh my gosh, like
22:55
Speaker 1: they're like they are something. It's kind of Michael story.
23:00
Speaker 1: I know. Another thing just to mention about, Well, I
23:05
Speaker 1: guess it is a group date. Aaron is so annoying.
23:10
Speaker 1: Is he getting there for you? Yes? Every week he's
23:13
Speaker 1: like I don't like that guy. Something about that guy.
23:16
Speaker 1: I don't like that guy. It's like you have said
23:18
Speaker 1: that about five different people and you change it and
23:20
Speaker 1: you have a different person you don't like every single week.
23:23
Speaker 1: That's all I have to say about that. All right. Um,
23:26
Speaker 1: as far as the group date, Oh Greg, we gotta
23:28
Speaker 1: talk about Greg. I guess um, Greg's like I'm gonna
23:31
Speaker 1: after seeing Michael and like and Michael talking about how
23:37
Speaker 1: each moment of your life, like it is so precious
23:41
Speaker 1: and you can't waste any time. He's like, Okay, I'm
23:44
Speaker 1: really gonna step it up with Katie tonight. I don't
23:46
Speaker 1: know that he really steps it up, but she tells
23:50
Speaker 1: him that he looks like a little lost puppy dog
23:52
Speaker 1: and has like a resting sad face, and Greg just
23:57
Speaker 1: says that, you know, he just like he's just so
24:01
Speaker 1: crazy about her, um, and he's going to keep waiting
24:05
Speaker 1: because she's worth it. Um. And Katie said that one
24:10
Speaker 1: of her biggest fears is that Greg would want to leave.
24:14
Speaker 1: So I wonder if it's a little foreshadowing because we've
24:16
Speaker 1: seen the super tease that somebody leaves. UM. My actual
24:23
Speaker 1: gut instinct is that it's Michael, because we see him
24:26
Speaker 1: on face time with this kid and he's like the
24:30
Speaker 1: kid says the saddest thing, something like sometimes I think
24:32
Speaker 1: you don't like want to see me anymore or something
24:36
Speaker 1: like that. UM, But I guess I possibly it could
24:41
Speaker 1: be Greg also um leaving. I don't know, it's yeah,
24:47
Speaker 1: it's somebody big, Like somebody big makes that move. Out
24:50
Speaker 1: in it. I think a lot of what we're seeing
24:52
Speaker 1: the teases come from that moment where she's like I'm done,
24:56
Speaker 1: Like this doesn't feel worth it, this isn't you know? Yeah,
24:59
Speaker 1: I get has to come from there. Well, actually before
25:03
Speaker 1: we move on here. Uh, there's two people that I'm
25:06
Speaker 1: surprised we don't know more. I'm not shocked about one.
25:09
Speaker 1: James is one of these people that James exactly the
25:13
Speaker 1: guy in the box. I thought we would see more
25:16
Speaker 1: of him, but we don't know a lot about him.
25:18
Speaker 1: The second one, though, is one that I really thought
25:22
Speaker 1: was going to be a standout this season. And I'm
25:25
Speaker 1: a little bit sad and that we haven't learned more
25:27
Speaker 1: about him. I think we learned some, but it's Courtney
25:31
Speaker 1: with a cue. We don't know a lot about Courtney yet,
25:34
Speaker 1: and I feel he's gone now exactly. And that's shocking
25:40
Speaker 1: because he he, like Week one was I believe, like
25:43
Speaker 1: one of our favorites. Like what happens. He's cool, he's
25:46
Speaker 1: got a cool, suave vibe. Um. I do think that
25:49
Speaker 1: he got a little bit into the drama. Um. But
25:52
Speaker 1: other than that, like, I just think there was like
25:54
Speaker 1: a lack of chemistry there and who was the other
25:57
Speaker 1: person you said, James James. James's hair is too slicked. Yeah,
26:03
Speaker 1: if he had some like if his hair is a
26:05
Speaker 1: little less hard, I would think he'd be getting more
26:07
Speaker 1: screen time. Yeah, I haven't washed my hair, and I
26:10
Speaker 1: don't know over a week at this point. Um, I've
26:13
Speaker 1: been on the lake. I want to see James in
26:14
Speaker 1: the lake like. I want to see him a week
26:17
Speaker 1: without washing his hair, no slick back like hat on,
26:22
Speaker 1: and just see see how the vibe changes. Yeah, I agree.
26:27
Speaker 1: I think I really like him. I think he's cool.
26:30
Speaker 1: I just I think that he looks like a little
26:32
Speaker 1: bit too swaved up too too often. I don't know
26:37
Speaker 1: if that's Katie style either. She kind of exactly. No,
26:40
Speaker 1: she likes a blake. She likes a guy who looks
26:42
Speaker 1: like he's like working in the National Park. That's right,
26:45
Speaker 1: good for her. Well, hey, we have a second one
26:47
Speaker 1: on one, but before we get there, let's take another break.
26:50
Speaker 1: We come back or to break down the second one
26:51
Speaker 1: on one of this episode. It's something special. We got
26:54
Speaker 1: to talk about it, and we're back with almost from
26:56
Speaker 1: his podcast. All right, Hey, Ben, do you know what
27:09
Speaker 1: really stressed me out about this date? So what I
27:12
Speaker 1: always like this moment, what is it? It started when
27:16
Speaker 1: it was dark, and that always freaks me out because
27:19
Speaker 1: that means they're going to be up to like four
27:20
Speaker 1: in the morning. I mean, come on, I mean, how
27:25
Speaker 1: many people out there would enjoy dating at starting at
27:29
Speaker 1: like what? I mean? How to be probably? I mean this, yeah,
27:33
Speaker 1: nine or ten o'clock, like when the sun went down
27:35
Speaker 1: it was dark, and knowing that the dates like one
27:38
Speaker 1: on ones on the Bachelor, like non Bachelor Paradise, but
27:41
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor Bachelor I like always last at least
27:44
Speaker 1: six hours. So that means, like at nine, you're starting
27:47
Speaker 1: something that you know is going to last six hours
27:51
Speaker 1: and you have to be totally on and your very
27:53
Speaker 1: best self, and you like they walked into that dinner portion.
27:58
Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding you. It must have been two
28:00
Speaker 1: I am. I mean just rough, just rough. This is
28:05
Speaker 1: why this is a show for young people. Okay, so
28:10
Speaker 1: what do you think. Where's Andrew and Katie's chemistry at um?
28:13
Speaker 1: I think that she really likes I feel like there's
28:16
Speaker 1: not a lot of chemistry. I'll say that I think
28:18
Speaker 1: she really likes him, but I don't know if there's
28:20
Speaker 1: like a magic factor here. I like the date. This
28:25
Speaker 1: is a kind of date that you all know that
28:26
Speaker 1: I like because you know, there's envelopes that have fun
28:30
Speaker 1: little questions, you get a little get to know little
28:33
Speaker 1: nuances about the person, and then they like smash the
28:35
Speaker 1: hearts and there was like deeper conversation topics. I love
28:38
Speaker 1: that stuff because The Bachelor, like we said it is
28:43
Speaker 1: a zillion times on this podcast in the past four years.
28:45
Speaker 1: But like when you're sitting there and it's like dead silent,
28:48
Speaker 1: like you have no background music, no background speaking, it's
28:51
Speaker 1: not like a regular date, it can be like really
28:54
Speaker 1: hard to just like grab conversation topics and for not
28:59
Speaker 1: to seem super and um. So I think that when
29:01
Speaker 1: they give them little envelopes like this, it really helps
29:04
Speaker 1: ease things. And again we get to know more about
29:08
Speaker 1: the contestant and their their chemistry. I just don't I
29:12
Speaker 1: just don't know whether like there's like this hotness between
29:18
Speaker 1: them that like she had obviously with Blake on that
29:21
Speaker 1: one on one. Yeah, but here's the thing that we
29:26
Speaker 1: have to bring up. But I like Andrew a lot. Well,
29:29
Speaker 1: we like Andrew and he's he's a great like from
29:34
Speaker 1: what we watch and tell me he's a great dude.
29:36
Speaker 1: And typically this is the week or next week that
29:40
Speaker 1: we see the one on one of somebody who goes
29:42
Speaker 1: either really far or ends up with her with him
29:45
Speaker 1: or her at the end. I mean four and five, Yeah,
29:49
Speaker 1: this is the first one on one like that's I mean,
29:51
Speaker 1: they usually save kind of the favorite right for that
29:55
Speaker 1: like ending storyline where all of a sudden Week four
29:58
Speaker 1: and five they erupt and kind of finished strong and
30:01
Speaker 1: we get really invested in their story. But here's what
30:05
Speaker 1: I'll say is, I was thinking this is going to
30:07
Speaker 1: happen with Andrew this week, and I didn't feel like
30:09
Speaker 1: it erupted. Like I don't feel like there's storyline is
30:14
Speaker 1: one that I'm like super involved in. I was expecting
30:19
Speaker 1: them more of a chemistry than what I felt I saw.
30:23
Speaker 1: Does that make sense, Yes, he's the guy heat to
30:26
Speaker 1: me in my head, he's the top four guy who
30:29
Speaker 1: gets really far because he makes a lot of sense.
30:31
Speaker 1: They have a lot of similarities, especially with their parents.
30:34
Speaker 1: You know, they both come from like their parents both
30:38
Speaker 1: didn't have the happiest of marriages. Andrew talks a lot
30:41
Speaker 1: about how his dad wasn't that present and he wants
30:43
Speaker 1: to be the exact opposite of that when he's older,
30:46
Speaker 1: which I think is you know, every girl loves hearing
30:48
Speaker 1: about how the guy projects to be a father one day,
30:51
Speaker 1: right and the so yeah, Like I think there's like
30:55
Speaker 1: a lot of similarities in the way of that, in
30:57
Speaker 1: their background, in the way that they see their futures.
31:02
Speaker 1: I just think that he's like the top four guy
31:04
Speaker 1: that like she wants to just love so much, but
31:07
Speaker 1: like the passion isn't there as it is with a
31:09
Speaker 1: couple others. We'll see, maybe I'm reading too much into it.
31:12
Speaker 1: Who knows, you might not be. And I mean we
31:14
Speaker 1: do see some really good conversations come out of this
31:18
Speaker 1: where they aren't afraid to dive deep and they aren't
31:21
Speaker 1: afraid to laugh. But they also do start to have
31:24
Speaker 1: conversations for the future. Uh you know, Andrew shares about
31:28
Speaker 1: his concerns because in the past relationships, somebody said they
31:31
Speaker 1: were concerned about having uh A mixed children and Katie,
31:37
Speaker 1: and Katie sits there with that and supports and here's
31:40
Speaker 1: and so you do see these conversations happening where they
31:44
Speaker 1: are talking about like what does the future look like?
31:46
Speaker 1: And you know, where what could we become if this
31:51
Speaker 1: was us at the end. And so as much as
31:54
Speaker 1: we're not feeling maybe the chemistry, what I am seeing
31:57
Speaker 1: is they've had throughout this whole process some of the
32:00
Speaker 1: most important conversations. Uh, that can prep him for the future.
32:06
Speaker 1: So maybe we shall see, we shall see. There's that
32:10
Speaker 1: one clip at the end of the Supertees that they
32:12
Speaker 1: used multiple times where she she yells Andrew and then
32:16
Speaker 1: she runs into his arms as if he was departing,
32:20
Speaker 1: and then she just had to say one last goodbye. Again,
32:24
Speaker 1: maybe I'm over analyzing. It's always the most fun of
32:27
Speaker 1: this anyways. Shall we speak about the rose ceremony? Yeah,
32:31
Speaker 1: this is, uh, this is the rose ceremony that I
32:35
Speaker 1: always say. Week four, week five is when I started
32:38
Speaker 1: get invested in the show again. And I'm back now
32:40
Speaker 1: because we're starting to get rid of a couple more
32:42
Speaker 1: guys that we haven't gotten the note too well, and
32:44
Speaker 1: that haven't been a huge part of the storyline. But
32:49
Speaker 1: the rose ceremony just did it start with the rose
32:51
Speaker 1: being passed out? It started with Katie's entrance into the evening. Yeah,
32:56
Speaker 1: and she looked awesome, that red dress with like the chains.
32:59
Speaker 1: I think all the guys were very into that. I
33:02
Speaker 1: think the biggest storyline here was the Hunter pulls Katie
33:09
Speaker 1: aside for chat even though he has a rose, which
33:11
Speaker 1: we see this all the time. When I was in
33:14
Speaker 1: the house, I wasn't sure how I feel about it.
33:16
Speaker 1: I still kind of torn about it. I still feel
33:18
Speaker 1: like this is the kind of process where you have
33:21
Speaker 1: to take advantage of all the time that you can get.
33:24
Speaker 1: Do you are you supposed to look out for others?
33:26
Speaker 1: I don't really know, um. But then and at the
33:30
Speaker 1: same time, while I say that, I do feel like
33:34
Speaker 1: those people who have roses going to the rose ceremony
33:36
Speaker 1: should at least give like the more time, um and
33:41
Speaker 1: the earlier time slots to people who don't who don't
33:45
Speaker 1: have one. What do you think I mean? I'm it
33:47
Speaker 1: doesn't really bother me either way. Yeah, me neither. I
33:51
Speaker 1: don't have like strong feelings, but like I could see
33:53
Speaker 1: both sides. But actually tell me this, listeners, tell me this,
33:58
Speaker 1: At what point in any season that you've watched in
34:01
Speaker 1: the twenty years that this show has been going that
34:04
Speaker 1: when there is the take too much time guy or girl,
34:08
Speaker 1: it's ever ended well for them? Like, it's not like
34:11
Speaker 1: that is the start of a storyline for Hunter that
34:13
Speaker 1: will just continue to get worse, I think the next
34:16
Speaker 1: few weeks. And the reason I say that, the reason
34:20
Speaker 1: I I hint to that, is because I cannot remember
34:23
Speaker 1: one man or one woman on this show who has
34:26
Speaker 1: been hey, I have a Rose, but I'm going to
34:28
Speaker 1: take more time than necessary and it's ended well for
34:30
Speaker 1: them long term. It's a good point. That's a really
34:34
Speaker 1: good point. Uh Yeah, Like he brings her over to
34:38
Speaker 1: the telescope and then he also wants to have like
34:40
Speaker 1: couch time with her, And even though he's had the
34:42
Speaker 1: telescope time and the couch time, he still tells James
34:47
Speaker 1: to back away. And I'm like, no, it would have
34:50
Speaker 1: been way more attractive if you're like, yeah, dude, you
34:53
Speaker 1: go go for it. And does Katie seem that into
34:55
Speaker 1: it at this point, She's not that into it. She
34:59
Speaker 1: thinks she wanted to talk to James because she even
35:02
Speaker 1: said like, I appreciate you trying to come over and
35:05
Speaker 1: grab me. Yeah. So at this point, I feel like,
35:09
Speaker 1: as a viewer, I'm watching this going hilt and think
35:11
Speaker 1: Katie is even if she gave the group date Rose,
35:13
Speaker 1: I think she's starting to feel like wait, there's something. Yeah.
35:17
Speaker 1: She even said you have a rose, so you should
35:21
Speaker 1: feel good. Like, give me a break here. I have
35:23
Speaker 1: a lot of people to meet, and as much as
35:25
Speaker 1: I love spending time with you, I also really like
35:28
Speaker 1: spending time with the others. So Hunter back off? Yeah yeah, yeah?
35:35
Speaker 1: So who gets who gets eliminated in this episode? The
35:38
Speaker 1: guys who don't get a rose of this episode is Courtney, Josh,
35:42
Speaker 1: and Andrew m So like, I I know who Andrew,
35:46
Speaker 1: I know who Josh and Andrew m r um, and
35:48
Speaker 1: of course I know who Courtney is. But none of
35:51
Speaker 1: them really played a huge role. And I think that
35:53
Speaker 1: they were the obvious cuts this week. Yeah, and I
35:55
Speaker 1: feel like James is definitely a cut next week. I
35:59
Speaker 1: have a feeling that Hunter will be a cut next week. Uh, Aaron,
36:05
Speaker 1: I think will be gone. Who's Who's Iceman? I say
36:09
Speaker 1: Iceman because we watched Top Gun this weekend? Um, who's
36:12
Speaker 1: the guy who looks like Val Kilmer in the eighties?
36:17
Speaker 1: I don't know Brendan, Yeah, Brendan, come on, Ben, please look,
36:24
Speaker 1: I'm just sending you this picture of this guy, and
36:26
Speaker 1: don't tell me that he doesn't look like he wants
36:30
Speaker 1: to beat Tom Cruise in the air. I see it now. Yeah,
36:34
Speaker 1: and he's still around somehow. Yeah, that guy's gone to
36:37
Speaker 1: there's no way he sticks. I mean, like we haven't
36:39
Speaker 1: heard anything from him. Yeah. The sad part is I'm
36:44
Speaker 1: invested in this season and I when you said the
36:47
Speaker 1: name Brendan, I was like, I don't. I don't know
36:48
Speaker 1: who you're talking about. And that's it's not a good sign.
36:51
Speaker 1: Not because I'm an expert, but just because you think
36:53
Speaker 1: we would know by now. Well, Ashley, before we move
36:56
Speaker 1: on to the hot topics of the week, Uh so
37:00
Speaker 1: far A to F, how are you grading Katie's performance
37:05
Speaker 1: as a bachelorette? I think I give her an A
37:08
Speaker 1: What about this season A to F? I feel like
37:11
Speaker 1: it's an A A minus. I still am very much
37:14
Speaker 1: enjoying it. It's one of the very few It's like,
37:16
Speaker 1: I have not looked at my phone. I've not been distracted.
37:19
Speaker 1: I've been excited to watch episodes. I like the depth.
37:24
Speaker 1: I like all the personalities we're getting to know. And
37:27
Speaker 1: we're through hump week now, so now we start going down,
37:30
Speaker 1: like into the more like intimate storylines. They're the people
37:35
Speaker 1: you know, we have hometowns coming up. We have fantasy
37:37
Speaker 1: suits coming up, we have some we have the engagement
37:40
Speaker 1: episode coming up. We this is starting to get like
37:43
Speaker 1: to the like heart of the season, and I'm pumped
37:46
Speaker 1: for it. I'm in I think Katie's in a. I
37:48
Speaker 1: think the seasons in a. I've really enjoyed it and uh,
37:53
Speaker 1: and it's been good. But like I said, before we
37:56
Speaker 1: start talking about hot topics, we do have something really
37:58
Speaker 1: important to talk about, and that is a sneak peak
38:02
Speaker 1: of the rest of the season that we get after
38:04
Speaker 1: this episode. And actually, I know we can over analyze these,
38:07
Speaker 1: I know we can look too far into him, but
38:09
Speaker 1: this sneak peak gave me a lot of anxiety. It
38:12
Speaker 1: makes me feel like things are not going to go
38:13
Speaker 1: well or easy from here on out. I know. Wait,
38:17
Speaker 1: I'm looking at our notes for the sneak peak, and
38:20
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things that I didn't even pick
38:22
Speaker 1: up on. Apparently Blake tells Katie he's not in love
38:25
Speaker 1: right now. That's big um. Greg asked if he can leave.
38:32
Speaker 1: I guess I misinterpreted that because when Greg said I
38:35
Speaker 1: can I leave, I felt like he meant can I
38:38
Speaker 1: leave the room or something right now, which would be
38:40
Speaker 1: just as weird. If I was like, hey, can I leave,
38:43
Speaker 1: like right now? That's something we would so say. That's
38:47
Speaker 1: like something you would say to the producer if you're
38:49
Speaker 1: like sitting around and you're like having like you know,
38:51
Speaker 1: to do like group chat time, you're like, can I
38:53
Speaker 1: can I go? Now? Good point. I guess that's true.
38:56
Speaker 1: But so that could be taken out of context. Um,
38:59
Speaker 1: we do see more Justin that I think, uh, well,
39:05
Speaker 1: we've seen thus far, Justin is your favorite with the
39:07
Speaker 1: expressions I I think Justin is a highlight of the season.
39:12
Speaker 1: I don't know. He doesn't say a lot, but my
39:15
Speaker 1: own mind does he speak with his face? And then
39:17
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're skipping over something super important. We
39:21
Speaker 1: believe in the sneak peak that we're we We witness
39:25
Speaker 1: Katie telling Mike P that the words I love you silly.
39:30
Speaker 1: That's so silly. That's not to Mike P. Like, there's
39:33
Speaker 1: no way you don't think that's Mike P. No, I
39:37
Speaker 1: think that's totally to somebody else. I took it as
39:40
Speaker 1: Mike P. They make it look like that. I don't know, Ash.
39:45
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot going on here. It's gonna
39:47
Speaker 1: be a fantastic end of the season, and we're going
39:50
Speaker 1: to continue to break down every episode as this season continues. Then, yeah,
39:56
Speaker 1: we have to talk about who the last. But she
39:58
Speaker 1: said that you're the last person I ever expected to
40:00
Speaker 1: show up at my door. Um, who's that? I have
40:04
Speaker 1: no clue. I think that's a guy from home. They
40:07
Speaker 1: always hint at that, and it never it never ends
40:09
Speaker 1: up being anything. Like every season when I was the Bachelor,
40:13
Speaker 1: they were hinting that, like some ex boyfriend was going
40:15
Speaker 1: to show up, like multiple times, and he kind of
40:18
Speaker 1: showed up a little bit, but I never met him. Like,
40:20
Speaker 1: I don't know, what what do you say if somebody
40:22
Speaker 1: from your past shows up, You're I mean, I would
40:27
Speaker 1: think at that point you you've kind of moved on. Yeah,
40:30
Speaker 1: I don't know. It doesn't really excite me as much
40:32
Speaker 1: as like the people were getting to know. I would
40:34
Speaker 1: be shocked if any outsider comes into a season like
40:39
Speaker 1: this and makes that big of a disruption. But it
40:44
Speaker 1: is gonna be a good into the season, There's no
40:45
Speaker 1: doubt about it. Hey, let's take a break. We have
40:47
Speaker 1: hot topics talk about, and there's a there's a few
40:49
Speaker 1: of them here. Uh, we'll back with almost from his
40:51
Speaker 1: podcast It's Time for Bachelor headlines of this week, A
41:05
Speaker 1: lot of them are focused around Katie season and the
41:08
Speaker 1: contestants on this season and Katie our Bachelorette. But to
41:12
Speaker 1: start out the Bachelorettes, Blake Moyne's reveals what he said
41:16
Speaker 1: in his initial d M to Katie Thurston. You guys,
41:20
Speaker 1: there are so many F bombs in these quotes that like,
41:23
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. Uh, he goes, she came out of that
41:29
Speaker 1: limo on Matt season with that vibrator, and I was like, yeah,
41:34
Speaker 1: I like what she's about. But it's not the fact
41:37
Speaker 1: that she had an effing vibrator. That's not what I
41:40
Speaker 1: was like, Oh yeah, that's my girl. It's the fact
41:43
Speaker 1: that she had the balls to have fun with it
41:45
Speaker 1: and go with the flow. It was really a simple
41:49
Speaker 1: reach out as far as the d M goes. It
41:52
Speaker 1: wasn't um, it wasn't like, hey, I'm into you know.
41:58
Speaker 1: It was like, I effing love that you did that.
42:01
Speaker 1: That was effing awesome. Good for you. And apparently he
42:09
Speaker 1: felt very comfortable right away as soon as he showed
42:12
Speaker 1: up on the season. And speaking of F bombs, he said,
42:15
Speaker 1: seeing what Katie was like in person and knowing that
42:19
Speaker 1: we are very similar, I wasn't too nervous to say
42:22
Speaker 1: f bombs and be a little raunchy and things like that. Yeah,
42:26
Speaker 1: well it's romantic to say the least. Um. Yeah, just
42:33
Speaker 1: like I don't know. I didn't like that whole quote series.
42:37
Speaker 1: I was just like, you're yeah, yeah, not by romantic.
42:41
Speaker 1: Yeah there you go. Well, uh, big story this week
42:44
Speaker 1: in Bachelor Nation about Bachelor contestants applying for the p
42:49
Speaker 1: p P loan, the paycheck Protection program. This was on
42:52
Speaker 1: TMZ released I think this article and actually I got
42:57
Speaker 1: to miss him. I have very mixed feelings about this.
43:03
Speaker 1: Uh well, so just in in all honesty, and I
43:06
Speaker 1: was kind of waiting for it to come out. You know,
43:08
Speaker 1: I applied for a p p P loan. That's so
43:10
Speaker 1: interesting that you're being so honest because our accountant was like,
43:13
Speaker 1: do you guys want to do this? Well, you have
43:15
Speaker 1: to think and I'm not saying this is where I
43:18
Speaker 1: come into this whole conversation with very little judgment because
43:24
Speaker 1: I don't know any of these Bachelor or Bachelor people's
43:27
Speaker 1: financials or what they're doing with their lives. But you've
43:30
Speaker 1: got to think I mean for me personally, I have
43:33
Speaker 1: three restaurants, all of which opened up within a year
43:37
Speaker 1: before the pandemic, and two coffee shops. So one of
43:42
Speaker 1: my coffee shops completely shut, like I closed the doors
43:45
Speaker 1: on it. A huge loss to me personally into the company.
43:49
Speaker 1: We couldn't keep it open, and we you know, eight
43:51
Speaker 1: employees of ours no longer had a barista job because
43:55
Speaker 1: of this, And so I applied for a p p
43:58
Speaker 1: P loan because this we had to like in order
44:01
Speaker 1: to keep our other coffee shop open and the restaurants open.
44:04
Speaker 1: We had like that's why what they're for. And so
44:08
Speaker 1: I think there was a little bit of um. I
44:11
Speaker 1: just don't think it was fair to like call everybody
44:14
Speaker 1: out and be like, there's no way you should have
44:15
Speaker 1: been doing this because you don't make a lot of
44:17
Speaker 1: money being the bachelor or bachelor and you make a
44:20
Speaker 1: good salary. I'm not saying it's a bad one. But
44:23
Speaker 1: then if you do have like restaurants and you're invested
44:25
Speaker 1: in the hospitality, and the pandemic hits and everything closes
44:29
Speaker 1: for three months and you're trying to keep your employees,
44:32
Speaker 1: uh like having a job. You had to apply because
44:38
Speaker 1: everything you were like was a financially and like awful
44:43
Speaker 1: year for me. Um, Like everything was going like slipping away.
44:48
Speaker 1: Every everything I had ever put my money into or
44:50
Speaker 1: my time into felt like it was disappearing. And so
44:54
Speaker 1: I just I'm cautious to overreact to this story because
44:59
Speaker 1: I know my situation. So you apply for when did
45:02
Speaker 1: you get on? I did? I did, And I mean
45:05
Speaker 1: we went through we went through the steps. I mean,
45:07
Speaker 1: it wasn't hard to do when you show, hey, this
45:09
Speaker 1: is what's happening to me this year and we have
45:12
Speaker 1: three employees and all of our businesses are closed. Like,
45:17
Speaker 1: it didn't it didn't feel I mean it was morally
45:21
Speaker 1: it felt like, yeah that you have to do this,
45:23
Speaker 1: like you have to get something because I can't imagine
45:27
Speaker 1: closing too generous coffee shops in the course of uh
45:32
Speaker 1: due this pandemically we had to get help. Yeah, I
45:36
Speaker 1: completely I completely agree with your feelings on it. Um.
45:39
Speaker 1: We saw that it was Colton, Tassia, Dale, Ari, and Lauren.
45:45
Speaker 1: They were the names that like were released last week,
45:47
Speaker 1: which I don't know. I just I do feel like
45:48
Speaker 1: it's just like kind of weird to like talk about
45:52
Speaker 1: people's money decisions. Um, but Colton and Tasha both have
45:58
Speaker 1: you know, Tasia was hiring an employee, use the money
46:01
Speaker 1: to pay for an employee that was unemployed before her,
46:07
Speaker 1: and then Colton has hissistic fibrosis foundation and the funds
46:12
Speaker 1: went there. You just gotta be you know, I think
46:15
Speaker 1: there's a lot to this. Now. I don't know everybody. Again,
46:18
Speaker 1: I don't know why everybody decided to do this, but
46:20
Speaker 1: the p PP was meant to support and keep small
46:24
Speaker 1: businesses specifically alive, and keep employees working and having some
46:29
Speaker 1: type of salary during this time. If that's why these
46:33
Speaker 1: contestants did it for that reason, then that they followed
46:39
Speaker 1: you know, what it was meant to do. Now, if
46:41
Speaker 1: they're doing it for personal gains, then that's a different question,
46:44
Speaker 1: right in a different conversation. But I just don't know that,
46:46
Speaker 1: and I don't think there's enough evidence in the story
46:49
Speaker 1: specifically to really point out why they did what they did.
46:53
Speaker 1: I know people are assuming things, and maybe some of
46:56
Speaker 1: the assumptions will be right, but I mean I was
46:59
Speaker 1: kind of way eating. I was like, you know, what,
47:01
Speaker 1: is my name gonna get thrown in here? And then
47:03
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one more thing that like I'm just
47:05
Speaker 1: like kind of sad about and I'm like, I don't
47:07
Speaker 1: know what else we could have done, Like, I don't
47:09
Speaker 1: know what I mean, yours was all about business, Like
47:12
Speaker 1: yours was done in a business name, and you have
47:14
Speaker 1: so many employees. Yeah, we are accountant asked if we
47:19
Speaker 1: want to do it, Jared and I are like, I
47:21
Speaker 1: think we're good right now. But you know, I think
47:24
Speaker 1: for each individual circumstance it's different. Good for you, I mean,
47:28
Speaker 1: that's uh, you gotta think through those. But that story
47:31
Speaker 1: did come out. It spread everywhere, and I know there's
47:33
Speaker 1: a lot of like uh and and again some of
47:35
Speaker 1: these people might have been doing it for the wrong reasons,
47:37
Speaker 1: but um, there we go. Well, Uh, Colton Underwood comes
47:41
Speaker 1: out with a nude photo shoot this week, Ashley, what
47:46
Speaker 1: was it about and what was going on? Um, it's
47:51
Speaker 1: not like I don't know how to just like basically
47:53
Speaker 1: like the photo shoot. If you want to know more
47:55
Speaker 1: about it, go look at the pictures. They are very
47:58
Speaker 1: easily found. You can see him he got he's got
48:03
Speaker 1: nothing on and he's got a leather jacket hide in
48:06
Speaker 1: his bare crotch and he's showing off his abs. He's
48:10
Speaker 1: gotten ear piercing. Um. There's even one where he's like
48:13
Speaker 1: taking a drag from a cigar and winking seductively at
48:17
Speaker 1: the camera. I smoke a lot of cigars naked. Yeah,
48:22
Speaker 1: Well now I feel like you do smoke cigars shirtless
48:26
Speaker 1: a lot shirtless. Yeah, but it feels dangerous for other reasons.
48:30
Speaker 1: Ashes are just flying everywhere. Um, anyway, you can definitely
48:35
Speaker 1: tell that it was like this is like Colton's like
48:37
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have fun. Uh, just just like a part
48:40
Speaker 1: of coming out, Like I feel sexy and like securing
48:43
Speaker 1: my own skin, so I'm gonna let it show. Ah. Well,
48:48
Speaker 1: you can go google those pictures if you would like. Well,
48:51
Speaker 1: that's all the headlines we have for this week. Uh.
48:54
Speaker 1: It has been uh a really great season so far.
48:58
Speaker 1: We've really enjoyed Break Vince down with all of you.
49:02
Speaker 1: So again, we hope you have an incredible, incredible week
49:07
Speaker 1: in front of you and enjoy the time. And before
49:09
Speaker 1: we go, we just want to give a quick little
49:11
Speaker 1: shout out to somebody's been on the podcast multiple times.
49:14
Speaker 1: John Paul Jones introduces new girlfriend Katie to the scene.
49:19
Speaker 1: Congratulations with both of them. Another relationship is forming in
49:24
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation. Well, hey, with that, I've been Ben, I've
49:28
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