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Come Back To Love September 10, 2026 Healing from the Inside Out! · Come Back to Love:

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Come Back to Love with your host, Robin Vogel.
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  Speaker 1: Each week at this same time, Come Back to Love
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  Speaker 1: covers an endless array of topics related to relationships, love,
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  Speaker 1: and intimacy, along with all the reasons you may be
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  Speaker 1: keeping love at a distance. Can a shattered heart be
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  Speaker 1: your doorway to your greatest love story? Robin will give
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  Speaker 1: you practical tools that can be used to heal the
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  Speaker 1: past and help you to safely love again. And now,
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  Speaker 1: today's Come Back to Love.
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  Speaker 2: In a world that often feels disconnected, uncertain, and overwhelming,
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  Speaker 2: there has never been a more important time to come
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  Speaker 2: back to love. I'm Robin Vogel, your host, intimacy coach,
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  Speaker 2: and author of Come Back to Love, A Path to Healing.
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  Speaker 2: For over 20 years, I've been sitting with people in
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  Speaker 2: their most tender, courageous moments, the heartbreaks, the longing, the
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  Speaker 2: walls they built around their hearts, and the quiet hope
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  Speaker 2: that real love is still possible. This show is a sanctuary,
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  Speaker 2: a place to heal the past, Reconnect with yourself and
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  Speaker 2: fall in love again with your life, with others, and
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  Speaker 2: most importantly, with yourself. Welcome to Comeback Love, everybody. This
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  Speaker 2: is KMET, your ABC News radio affiliate. We are on
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  Speaker 2: air at 1490 AM and 98.1 FM at 1.30 PM
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  Speaker 2: Pacific and 4.30 PM Eastern every Thursday. Welcome to the show. Today,
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  Speaker 2: I have two dear friends with me, which is so exciting.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is my first time anyway, having two
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  Speaker 2: guests on this particular radio show. So welcome everybody to
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  Speaker 2: Come Back to Love and welcome Barbara DeMasi, a dear
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  Speaker 2: friend who offers wellness consultations while incorporating electrodermal screenings with
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  Speaker 2: professional herbalism as her foundational work. During your consultation with Barbara,
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  Speaker 2: you'll gain a wealth of knowledge about your health and wellness.
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  Speaker 2: You will leave with an individualized plan based on your
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  Speaker 2: specific needs. And I can totally attest to that. For
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  Speaker 2: your individualized health plan, she may implement or give you
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  Speaker 2: ideas to use related to herbs, supplements, homeopathy, flower essences,
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  Speaker 2: essential oils, and I will say so much more. Also,
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  Speaker 2: we have today dear friend Claudia Muriel. She is a
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  Speaker 2: bioenergetic practitioner, educator, and creator of BioResonance Massage Therapy. Through
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  Speaker 2: her practice, the light guide, she works at the intersection
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  Speaker 2: of the physical body, nervous system, energy, and consciousness. Blending
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  Speaker 2: frequency-based technologies with intuitive and body-based approaches. Okay, we have
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  Speaker 2: to dissect all of that. Claudia is also the creator
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  Speaker 2: of The Power of Pivoting, exploring how we move through change,
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  Speaker 2: release old patterns, and create new experiences of possibility within
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  Speaker 2: the body. I think we're going to talk about that
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  Speaker 2: because I have been seeing and reading some incredible things
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  Speaker 2: that you have done and are doing, Claudia. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty unbelievable. Yeah. So welcome you two. You're like the
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  Speaker 2: Bobsy twins.
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  Speaker 4: We are actually, if people could see us, we have
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  Speaker 4: the same length brown hair.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You really look the same. And I know our listeners
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  Speaker 2: are just listening and they can't perceive your dark brown
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  Speaker 2: hair and the way that you guys look, but you
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  Speaker 2: definitely look like Bobsy twins. And what I love about
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  Speaker 2: both of you is, um, is that you both work
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  Speaker 2: with the body to support coming back to love because
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  Speaker 2: you work to support health, well-being, alignment with the self,
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  Speaker 2: you know, sort of clearing the path for true alignment
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  Speaker 2: in this lifetime and true health and wellbeing. And really
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  Speaker 2: we can't do anything unless our health and wellbeing are
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  Speaker 2: in good shape. You know, we just can't, we can't
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  Speaker 2: run businesses. We can't really be in relationship, you know,
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  Speaker 2: very well. And that includes of course, partners, lovers, friends, neighbors, family,
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  Speaker 2: all of it. So your work is so important. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to hear what each of you thinks about
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  Speaker 2: that piece and how you perceive it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I guess I can give an example of when
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  Speaker 4: I was like 47-ish years old, maybe 46, I was
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  Speaker 4: nominated for an award for some makeup work I had
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  Speaker 4: done because before I did health and wellness work, I
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  Speaker 4: was a makeup artist in the film industry. And I
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  Speaker 4: looked at the pictures of myself at that award ceremony
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  Speaker 4: and I.
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  Speaker 3: Was like, who have you become? It was, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: recognize myself.
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  Speaker 4: I was 30 pounds overweight. I was overtired from working
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  Speaker 4: in the film industry. And I just, I was like,
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  Speaker 4: something has got to change. And you talk about coming
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  Speaker 4: back to love. So I felt, I started the process
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  Speaker 4: of falling back in love with myself. And through that,
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  Speaker 4: it has informed everything I do in my life.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Yes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to dig into that a little more because,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's the words are, you know, amazing to hear.
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  Speaker 2: And it's always incredible to hear about life changes like that.
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  Speaker 2: And then I know people are like, how did you
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  Speaker 2: do that? How did you come to love yourself enough?
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  Speaker 2: Which is the question I would ask that would enable
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  Speaker 2: you to actually take the steps to make such significant
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  Speaker 2: life changes. So we could pause on that question and
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  Speaker 2: let you contemplate that. And we'll go to Barbara.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How about for you? Like, how does your work fit
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  Speaker 2: in with the overall message of come back to love?
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  Speaker 5: Do you think? I think because so with what I do,
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  Speaker 5: I'm able to tap into the subconscious of someone and
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  Speaker 5: by helping them navigate, they come to me usually for
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  Speaker 5: wellness issues, right? They're having some physical issue. When you
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  Speaker 5: dig underneath that, you find the emotional imbalances. And the
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  Speaker 5: beauty of my work, I've been doing this for a
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  Speaker 5: long time, is to actually watch someone evolve into loving themselves.
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  Speaker 5: And that is always my goal because it's all of
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  Speaker 5: the things and traumas that have happened to people that
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  Speaker 5: really gets them disconnected from themselves, that whole trauma response thing.
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  Speaker 5: So by untangling that and supporting them through the wellness journey,
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  Speaker 5: and getting them back to connecting with themselves and really feeling,
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  Speaker 5: you know, that connection and healing and loving ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: It's really, it's the core of everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that. That spurs on a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of questions, but I want to go to the, the
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  Speaker 2: one we just mentioned, cause it's, it really resonant for
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  Speaker 2: all of us, I think. But Claudia, if you want
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  Speaker 2: to respond first, like, How how did you get to
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  Speaker 2: the space of really making life changes that I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I know you're not 47 now, but I also know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're not 77 now, but it has been
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  Speaker 2: a handful of years.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think that a lot of people look at me
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  Speaker 4: and think I was naturally like this, you know, like
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  Speaker 4: I went from like a hundred, almost 200 pounds to like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, whatever a hundred I am now and fit
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  Speaker 4: and healthy and strong. And I think that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people think I was just born like
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  Speaker 4: this and that I've always been like this. And it
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  Speaker 4: really is about taking one step at a time. you know,
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  Speaker 4: Barbara talked about watching people fall in love with themselves.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't happen in the first session. It begins in
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  Speaker 4: the first session and you.
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  Speaker 3: Build on that.
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  Speaker 4: And so like I built on one thing and nutrition
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  Speaker 4: became one thing, you know, and then I built the
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  Speaker 4: gym on top of that. And then I built self
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  Speaker 4: care on top of that. And so it's like one
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  Speaker 4: step at.
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  Speaker 3: A time, like one cause, one, at a time. Cause
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  Speaker 3: if you try to take it on all at once,
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  Speaker 3: it's like overwhelming. And my clients tell me that they're like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I can only do one thing at a time.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, so we'll do this part and
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  Speaker 4: then we'll add in this part and then we'll do
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  Speaker 4: that part.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And what about when, you know, the motivation declines
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  Speaker 2: a bit? I mean, I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: start in the beginning, they feel really motivated. Like even my,
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  Speaker 2: you know, weekend retreat participants, for example, you know, or
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  Speaker 2: somebody comes to something that's an evening or a weekend,
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  Speaker 2: and they feel really inspired. And they're like, Oh, I'm
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  Speaker 2: this is not just going to be a weekend. This
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  Speaker 2: is like a life change, because I'm teaching tools that
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  Speaker 2: enable them to work through really any emotion that comes up,
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  Speaker 2: that's blocking them from being their true loving self. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and then like motivation wanes, because it just
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  Speaker 2: naturally does. And so, yeah, how did you How did
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  Speaker 2: you deal with that? I'm assuming it did. Maybe you're
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  Speaker 2: the one person.
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  Speaker 3: It can wane.
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  Speaker 4: I'm kind of an anomaly. For me, it's like the opposite.
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  Speaker 4: I want more and I want to go bigger and
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  Speaker 4: I want to go stronger. But for my clients, it
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  Speaker 4: does wane. But one of our clients that has worked
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  Speaker 4: together with Barbara and I, she also recalibrated her nutrition
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  Speaker 4: and her care and her wellness. She dropped 40 pounds
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  Speaker 4: and did a lot of health. It was like inflammation.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not just weight. There's so much to it, right?
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  Speaker 4: She did go away. She does go away on vacations.
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  Speaker 4: She will have a wonderful time and eat the caramel
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  Speaker 4: apple and send me pictures of it.
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  Speaker 3: But I think it's stagnant.
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  Speaker 4: Connected with us that keeps brings her you know like
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  Speaker 4: she doesn't look at that as a bad thing anymore
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  Speaker 4: she's like I can do this and I can go
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  Speaker 4: back to my and then she'll send me a picture
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  Speaker 4: of her dinner which is like piece of steak with
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  Speaker 4: this beautiful salad right so I think it's having the
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  Speaker 4: connection there was this great um uh game on tv
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  Speaker 4: one time that they're like can you phone a friend
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  Speaker 4: or get a clue or something owning a friend right
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  Speaker 4: and we're I I am always very close to my
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  Speaker 4: clients I'm like you can text me if you.
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  Speaker 5: Need me you know and we did coach her out
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  Speaker 5: of that guilt thing yeah like the good or bad Right.
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  Speaker 5: So we have self-love. You can't look at the things like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 5: I enjoyed this thing. Now I'm bad. And it's like
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  Speaker 5: that's so harmful. We just have to we like to
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  Speaker 5: coach people in the ebb and flow of life.
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  Speaker 3: It's just OK. Go on vacation. Do your thing. Then
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  Speaker 3: you come back and you reset.
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  Speaker 5: And I feel like that keeps people more motivated because
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of unsustainable to go from zero to 100,
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. And I love what you said. And just
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  Speaker 2: to add a piece to it, it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: how do you love yourself on vacation? Sometimes you don't
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  Speaker 2: exercise for the whole time, right? Sometimes you just want
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  Speaker 2: to lounge by the pool or you want to have
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  Speaker 2: whatever food's going to feel like just nourishing and yummy
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  Speaker 2: and you know, let go of responsibility and obligation, even
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  Speaker 2: be irresponsible, maybe like that could be a really loving
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  Speaker 2: thing to do if you're somebody who is very, uh,
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  Speaker 2: sort of by the book and more of perfectionist with yourself. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I, but really what you're both saying in the
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  Speaker 2: foundation is like the accountability that they have to themselves,
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  Speaker 2: the two of you, when you work together and even
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  Speaker 2: when you work individually or just are holding, um, I
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  Speaker 2: think what I'm going to say is that you're holding
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  Speaker 2: the client in their highest, assuming they're going to hold
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  Speaker 2: themselves accountable by holding themselves and also by staying connected
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  Speaker 2: with each of you. And like you said, Claudia, they
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  Speaker 2: can text you and they can send photos. But we
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  Speaker 2: also have to hold that our clients are being their
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  Speaker 2: best selves, right? And then they feel it themselves. Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I can hold myself accountable. You know, it's just like
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  Speaker 2: an energy of positivity.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's it, right? Like we're not holding
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  Speaker 3: them accountable. Like, oh my God, I can't believe you
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  Speaker 3: had that.
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  Speaker 2: Put it down. It's more like, oh my God.
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  Speaker 3: That looks not like she sent me the picture of
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  Speaker 3: this apple.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Like, honestly, I was like, that looks amazing. And then
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  Speaker 3: she sent me the picture of the salad and it's taken.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, and that looks great too. You know, like
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  Speaker 3: it's from a place of love. Come back to love.
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  Speaker 3: Like I always welcome you back with love, right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Always, always. Yeah, that's awesome. So let's tease out
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more of what you're doing with your
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  Speaker 2: clients because it's not mainstream. What any of us do
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  Speaker 2: isn't mainstream. And there's often a question that I get,
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  Speaker 2: which is like, what are you doing again? What is
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  Speaker 2: it actually? And I think that would be really great
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  Speaker 2: to hear. And especially because you were on the radio
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  Speaker 2: and we've got listeners from all over the world. Thank you,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, to our listeners on KMET right now.
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  Speaker 2: It would be great to hear like what you do
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  Speaker 2: with people that are at a distance, maybe if that's
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  Speaker 2: a possibility for your work. And I know people will
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  Speaker 2: travel to to see both of you. As they should,
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  Speaker 2: I will say. As someone who's worked with both of you,
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  Speaker 2: I just want to say that to my listeners. I
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  Speaker 2: have worked with both of these amazing women and the
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  Speaker 2: healing is just off the charts. And it's so different
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  Speaker 2: than mainstream healing and just has such a greater possibility
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  Speaker 2: to really get to the root of what's going on
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  Speaker 2: and change the body and change the nervous system and
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  Speaker 2: change the trajectory. And instead of like, here's a pill
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  Speaker 2: and here's a syrup and here's an x-ray, it's like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, let's actually change at the root. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Which is, which is what I do is root causes.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm able to tap the subconscious. Someone comes in
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  Speaker 5: with an issue and then I just literally ask how
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  Speaker 5: many causes there are. It tells me the causes and
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  Speaker 5: then we work from there. And then my recommendations are
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  Speaker 5: based on the causes of the issue. And I work
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  Speaker 5: long distance by, um, people can send a saliva sample
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  Speaker 5: and I can do the testing that way. So I
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  Speaker 5: actually have clients from other parts of the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You've been doing this work for how many years now?
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  Speaker 2: A long time.
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  Speaker 5: It's been about 20 years.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God. It's been a while. Yeah. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: when I came in for the first time, I think
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  Speaker 2: it was, you know, 23 years ago or something or.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So it's been, yeah. It's been a while. I always
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  Speaker 2: say when I tell people about Barbara DeMasi that you
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  Speaker 2: are the only one I know that can get to
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  Speaker 2: the root causes of what's actually going on. So that's,
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  Speaker 2: that's what I tell people and have been telling them
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  Speaker 2: for almost 25 years. Thank you. Yeah. So I just
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  Speaker 2: want to say to our listeners, cause I know there
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  Speaker 2: are so many people out there that have headaches every
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  Speaker 2: day or have mysterious things happening in their bodies. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, I just don't feel well is something I
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  Speaker 2: often hear. I'm not sleeping well. I feel pain.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I can't really describe it. And you go to the
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  Speaker 2: doctor and they're like, oh, well, I don't know. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you're just getting older or, you know, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you take aspirin every day, you know, you'll be okay.
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  Speaker 2: Or if you just take this pill to calm this down,
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  Speaker 2: you'll be fine. Take it every day for the rest
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  Speaker 2: of your life and that kind of stuff. And sometimes
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  Speaker 2: that's what we need. but not always, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: I feel like there's a whole area that's really not
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  Speaker 2: being explored, um, to figure out actually what's going on
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  Speaker 2: with people. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And how about you, Claudia? What your work is incredible
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  Speaker 2: deep States. There's so much healing that happens in those
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  Speaker 2: deep theta States.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: And, um, I can offer a long distance session now too,
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  Speaker 4: because I do have a very affordable device that people
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  Speaker 4: can have at home that I can email protocols to.
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  Speaker 4: You know, and I have also clients, you know, all
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  Speaker 4: over the United States and the world, and they have
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  Speaker 4: this small device that is a pulsed electromagnetic frequency, PEMF.
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  Speaker 4: And I, it's a tiny little pillow. You just, I was,
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  Speaker 4: I threw it on my back yesterday. Cause I came
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  Speaker 4: home from labor day and my eye were itchy and
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  Speaker 4: I was sneezing and I had this like general malaise
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  Speaker 4: because I too indulged over the weekend and my body
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  Speaker 4: just isn't used to sugar.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, itchy eyes and sneezing. And I
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  Speaker 3: was like, this is not a cold.
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  Speaker 4: So I threw the little PEMF device on for leaky gut.
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  Speaker 4: And the next thing you know, itchy eyes are fading.
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  Speaker 4: Eyes are clearing. I stopped sneezing and I woke up
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  Speaker 4: today totally fine. You can hear I'm totally fine. So
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  Speaker 4: anybody can purchase this PEMF device. You know, people will
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  Speaker 4: message me. I have, you know, I have this going on.
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  Speaker 4: I have that going on. I do, you know, a
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  Speaker 4: little evaluation and then I message them onto their phone
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  Speaker 4: a protocol. They can run through this little pillow device
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  Speaker 4: that you can just tuck into your shirt, tuck into
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  Speaker 4: your yoga pants and run the protocol and.
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  Speaker 3: Start feeling better.
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  Speaker 2: My goodness. Okay. I don't have that in my toolbox.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have it in.
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  Speaker 3: Your repertoire yet. I know it. We got to talk.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, definitely. Like coming off, you know, to basically what,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, eight, nine, 10 days of teaching in
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  Speaker 2: a row and just needing some just recovery.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Just some, you know, energy support and clearing of energies,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. That's so helpful on the other
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: side of work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And you could run it and work it before you
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: go to the retreat during after so that you don't
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: come out of it like totally exhausted and strained.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah. Yeah. Wonderful. Sign me up. Hey. Yeah, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess when I read your bio, you know,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: sometimes there's a lot of words and people don't fully
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  Speaker 2: understand them.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 4: Agreed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so in terms of frequency work, do you just
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  Speaker 2: wanna say more about like how that, how do people
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  Speaker 2: know that they need that kind of support? And then, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's start.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: So I feel like everything has a frequency to it.
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  Speaker 3: And I feel like a lot of people think of
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  Speaker 3: it as.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Nebulous, but if you just think of your nervous system,
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  Speaker 4: it's sending a little electrical pulses from your hand that
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: touch the hot stove to your brain and it's saying, ouch, hot,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: move your hand, right? So I do the same thing
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  Speaker 4: with these devices. I send a message with a little
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: electrical pulse to let's say your liver that says repair
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  Speaker 4: the liver or reduce its inflammation or stop the allergic response.
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  Speaker 4: And the body understands that because it's the language of
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: our nervous system. So it's very actually scientific and it's
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: not super woo. I mean, it might be a little
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: bit in the sense that it's not common to say
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: frequency heals or helps. So that's how I work with frequency.
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  Speaker 4: I use tiny little micro electrical pulses that send messages
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  Speaker 4: to the different organs and systems and glands in your body.
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  Speaker 3: To help her prepare.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: And then with the help of Barbara, I can know
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: what the root cause is.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome. See, you guys are a dynamic duo.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to use that from now on.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Yes. I realize that some of our listeners who will
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: not have any reference point for Bobsy Twins.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: It depends when you grew up, right? What was the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Bobsy Twins? I don't know. The seventies, the eighties.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, seventies, eighties. Yeah.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: So sorry for those of you listening that have no
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: idea what we're talking about.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: You're probably going to Google it now though.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: You can chat GPT these days.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Well, I wonder, um, If you have any
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: messages of just self-care and self-love that we could send
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: to our listeners today. And I'm going to invite our
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: listeners to have a deep breath wherever you are, whether
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: you're walking in the park or driving in your car,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: because we are on the radio every Thursday at 1.30 p.m. Pacific,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: which is 4.30 p.m.
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  Speaker 5: Eastern.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: And, you know, unlike podcasts out there, and yes, you
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: can listen to this after the show is live on
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Spotify and any other podcast platform you use to listen
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to your podcast, but also like we're on the radio.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: It's so, I don't know, it's avant-garde now, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: To be like on the radio. So wherever anybody is,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: wherever our listeners are, I just can invite you to
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: have a breath and pause for a moment and Maybe
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: put your hand on your heart and just drop into
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: your body for a moment and send yourself some love.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: And while you're doing that, maybe if either one of
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: you has anything you want to send as a message,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: we can close out the show today with some messages
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: of love. So just take a moment, no pressure, just
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: whatever kind of comes to your mind or to your heart.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: I would just say, do the things that make you
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  Speaker 4: feel good. You know, we have so many tools and
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: sometimes I forget to do the thing that makes me
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: feel good. Like just click on your red light and
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: lay under it, sit in front of it, drink the tea,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: turn on the PEMF device, just do the.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Thing, just do it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do the thing. You know what? As soon as
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: you said that, I was like, my red light is
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: in my closet. Like, why don't I pull it out
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: and just do the thing?
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Do the thing.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do that today. Thank you. And how
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: about for you, Barbara? Anything come to mind for you? Yeah,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Say for your listeners to remember that self-love is the
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: path to healing. So we chase the pill, we chase
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: the herb, we chase the diet, we chase the things.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: And in reality, when we find the way to really
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: love ourselves and care for ourselves. And for some of
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: my clients who can't get there, I like to remind them, like,
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: if you look at yourself as if you were your
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: own child or your own sister or brother, and what
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: would you tell them? Would you be holding them as
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: accountable as you're holding yourself? And boy, for those who
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: have children, that hits hard.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: So moving forward, you need to think of yourself as
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: your own child.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: So that is the path. That is the first step
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: to healing your physical.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Issues as well.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Interconnected.
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  Speaker 2: 100%. 100%. We know the body and mind are connected.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: And I love that. I love that question. I use
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: it myself when I'm working with my clients to like,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: what would you tell, you know, your best friend or
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: your little three year old child when they were, you know,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: crying or afraid or yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. Self-love.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: So thank you so much. It's fun to be in
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: a circle here with the two of you, the three
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: of us. Thank you for having us. Yeah.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I just, um, for those of you that are able
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: to access the show notes, you'll be able to find
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the way to find Barbara and also Claudia and And
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: as you heard that both of them work online and
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the healing work is so powerful and a massive, massive
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: piece of coming back to love with yourself, which let's
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: face it is life changing. When you love yourself, then
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: you make choices for yourself that are in alignment and loving.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: And that is not, it sounds easy to say it,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: but it can be not easy to choose every day.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Just a reminder to all of us, I'm
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Robin Vogel. I'm inviting you to be gentle with yourself,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: to remember that love is possible and it starts with
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: coming back to you. Thank you for being here and
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: we'll see you next Thursday. Have a beautiful day, everybody. Hi,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: this is Robin Vogel, host of Come Back to Love.
• 25:56
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• 25:58
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