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THROWBACK THURSDAY! (Staged Crime Scenes, Inverted Celebrities, & Bio Warfare (Feat. Ryan Dean, John Gusty & Colby) · Cosmic Peach

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Throwback Thursday.
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Speaker 2: So these are some of the oldies but goodies.
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Speaker 1: The classics, and they are some of the episodes that
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Speaker 1: are probably in the back of the catalog that you
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Speaker 1: haven't managed to listen to yet. So just a warning,
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Speaker 1: some of my thoughts, feelings, opinions may have changed since
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Speaker 1: the recordings of these episodes, doesn't make them any less interesting.
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Speaker 1: So as an evolving human being, I may say something
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Speaker 1: in these episodes that I don't necessary agree with today,
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Speaker 1: but these episodes are the classics, and I just thought
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Speaker 1: I would do a little something fun for us. So
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Speaker 1: welcome and enjoy Throwback Thursday.
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Speaker 3: Hello conspiracy Players, Welcome to another episode, this one being
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Speaker 3: a reunion of sorts. We have three returning guests, John Gusty,
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Speaker 3: Ryan Dean, and Julia from Cosmic Peach podcast, Ryan Dean
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Speaker 3: from a number of podcasts, and we're gonna be talking
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Speaker 3: about probably all sorts of stuff today, but to bring
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Speaker 3: it to like a focal point right off the bat,
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Speaker 3: before we started recording, we were talking about these big
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Speaker 3: staged events that have happened throughout history, and then there
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Speaker 3: seems to be one going on right now. And I'll
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Speaker 3: give each of you, you know, your time to kind
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Speaker 3: of wrap up what your thoughts are about it. We
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Speaker 3: did it briefly, but we could really dive into it now.
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Speaker 3: And John, and do you want to start with some
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Speaker 3: of the stuff you were saying before.
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Speaker 4: Oh about Luigi?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I uh, well, you know we were we were
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Speaker 4: we were talking about you know, staged events. And and
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Speaker 4: I say, yeah, there seems to be one happening in
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Speaker 4: real time right now, because I always you know, after
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Speaker 4: I assassinate someone, I ditched my backpack, peace out for
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Speaker 4: five days, but still keep my manifesto and the gun
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Speaker 4: I used on me. That just doesn't sound plausible. Plus,
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Speaker 4: anytime mainstream media jumps on something with such fervor it
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Speaker 4: it is just a red flag to me. This kind
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Speaker 4: of people get whacked all the time, you know. And
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Speaker 4: I started, I started thinking about this back in the day,
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Speaker 4: like with remember the John Benet Ramsey case.
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Speaker 3: You know, Oh you're gonna get her going now.
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Speaker 2: I didn't like a three part series on John Benny Ramsey.
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Speaker 2: Well wait a second, John, you read Program to Kill right?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he has a chapter on John Beney in there,
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Speaker 2: because it's so fucked up.
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Speaker 4: Well, but I didn't even know who Dave McGowan was
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Speaker 4: back when when that happened, you know, but when it happened,
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Speaker 4: I did go. You know, this type of stuff happens
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Speaker 4: every day, multiple times a day, all over the probably
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Speaker 4: with within ten miles of anybody right now, that exact
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Speaker 4: same thing happens. So why this one Why does this
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Speaker 4: one case get such again across the board, network participation,
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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden it's a thing. And and
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Speaker 4: so this whole ceo whacking thinks justice seems like another
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Speaker 4: one of those like like people get whacked all the time.
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Speaker 4: And to what I think this is is I think
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Speaker 4: this is a this is setting the table for a
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Speaker 4: lot of these corporate big wigs to piece out legitimately
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Speaker 4: or illegitimately. You and when we start talking about some
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Speaker 4: of the entertainment stuff, you know, like is you know,
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Speaker 4: is Bowie really dead? Is Petty really dead? Is Prince
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Speaker 4: really dead? Or or did they negotiate their you know,
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Speaker 4: their contract out and just pieced out, you know, or
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Speaker 4: you know, so that I think that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 4: I don't this whole Luigi thing, I don't. It's it's
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Speaker 4: just not what they say it is. I don't think
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Speaker 4: that they at the very least, I think as far
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Speaker 4: as I'll go right now, is I will it might
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Speaker 4: be an m k Ultra type of thing where you
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Speaker 4: know that that that that kid was for whatever reason
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Speaker 4: we I don't know, is family connections or whatever, but
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Speaker 4: it's you know, what was the I'm blanking on the
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Speaker 4: kid's name the the shooter? Was it James something that
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Speaker 4: the shooter that went and you know, did the job
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Speaker 4: and then went and sat in the car and waited
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Speaker 4: for the police, or like in the DC Snipers, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 4: or in the DC Sniper case where the official gets
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Speaker 4: on TV and he says the code words or whatever
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Speaker 4: and then you know, the person turns themselves in, you know,
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Speaker 4: not too far after. So it might be an m
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Speaker 4: k Altra thing at at at best, but I don't
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Speaker 4: I don't think that.
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Speaker 2: Is this the same one that was like eating a
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Speaker 2: fucking fish file at and.
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Speaker 3: Fucking well a brown everybody was stomping. It was the
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Speaker 3: Mick rib because to me, like these now have corporate
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Speaker 3: like corporate funding, like both like come up in these
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Speaker 3: headlines constantly. He did Starbucks before the killing, got cotton
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Speaker 3: a McDonald's.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you see the meme going around, it's a fake
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Speaker 4: burger King meme. This is burger King. We don't snitch.
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Speaker 3: That should be real. Actually, Ryan, what are your some
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Speaker 3: of your thoughts on it initially.
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Speaker 5: On this Uh, what's his name? Mangioni. I always struggle
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Speaker 5: with Italian names. Yeah, you gotta say it like it's
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Speaker 5: a dish when you're saying.
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Speaker 4: Remember the trumpet guy from the from the seventies, Chuck Mangioni.
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Speaker 5: Oh, okay, so that's how you say it, MANGIONI, perfect.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Man.
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Speaker 5: First of all, you know, Gus, you said a lot
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Speaker 5: of stuff there. Man, I hope Tom Petty's not that,
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Speaker 5: and I know that they say is, but I mean
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Speaker 5: I love Tom Petty.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 5: That's that's my Desert Island artist right there. But I
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Speaker 5: know we're still not going to get to listen to him, so,
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Speaker 5: you know, no new music coming out as far as
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Speaker 5: this thing goes. Man, It's it's interesting to me because
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Speaker 5: everything that you're saying makes so much sense, right, We're
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Speaker 5: not if one of us was going to go and
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Speaker 5: do something illegal, especially high profile like that, you're not
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Speaker 5: going to like keep a bullet point list of how
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Speaker 5: you did it, why you did it. You're not going
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Speaker 5: to keep the gun with supposedly the silencer that was
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Speaker 5: on there or the suppressor, I should say. But if
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Speaker 5: you're trying to do something high profile and you want
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Speaker 5: to get recognition for it, I think that you would
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Speaker 5: keep some of that stuff on you so that you know,
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Speaker 5: you could almost have that stardom about what you did,
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Speaker 5: and you can have you know, you can gain attention
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Speaker 5: and you can be like, yeah, I did this and
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Speaker 5: it was a noble reason why I did it for
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Speaker 5: the record. I don't think that that they got the
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Speaker 5: right guy. I don't think that that's who did it.
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Speaker 5: It just doesn't make sense. I feel like when these
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Speaker 5: kinds of things happen, especially to high profile people, the
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Speaker 5: people that get caught so quickly afterwards, it's to almost
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Speaker 5: deter other people from going out and doing similar things,
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Speaker 5: because there's a lot of people that saw something like
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Speaker 5: that happen and they're like, yeah, this more CEOs, more
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Speaker 5: politicians need to be afraid to walk around in the street.
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Speaker 5: So it's almost to deter people from you know, copying
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Speaker 5: this guy doing this similar kind of stuff. But it's
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Speaker 5: it's it's all so confusing, and I'm not as deep
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Speaker 5: into the conspiracy world as I used to be. So
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Speaker 5: I'm not researching all these little intricacies and all these
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Speaker 5: these these coincidences if you want to call them that,
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Speaker 5: but yeah, something's very fishy about it. And did you
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Speaker 5: guys see the whole thing with two eighty six that's
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Speaker 5: going around It's everywhere right now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we just featured that in my other show, and
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Speaker 3: it was like a kid on TikTok put together. It
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Speaker 3: might be the same thing you saw. Yeah, And yeah,
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Speaker 3: the the numbers in these very high profile news stories
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Speaker 3: are always fun to pay attention to. You get like
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Speaker 3: my co host on this show, he's a huge Jamatria guy.
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Speaker 3: And then I know, Ryan, you talk about the numerology
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Speaker 3: of things a lot, and yeah, yeah, what eighty six?
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Speaker 3: It is weird how many times it can come.
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Speaker 5: Up right, And like I so it goes as deep
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Speaker 5: as like on his Twitter he had the freaking two
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Speaker 5: hundred and eighty six pokemon in his in his uh
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Speaker 5: you know header up there, and yeah, bray Loom. I
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Speaker 5: don't know what bray Loom is, but you know, like
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Speaker 5: just a quick description of this thing, you know, for
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Speaker 5: what it's worth, it's basically like a little freaking green
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Speaker 5: mushroom looking guy. Did I cut out?
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Speaker 3: No? I was trying to give you the option to
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Speaker 3: share your screen and I started sharing my screen.
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Speaker 5: Oh, I can share it if you want.
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Speaker 3: If you're going to talk about something you're looking at,
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Speaker 3: I'm just going to give you the option that it's
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Speaker 3: your choice.
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Speaker 5: Well let's pull it up. Yeah, so this is this guy,
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Speaker 5: This is this is bray Loom. It'd be great if
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Speaker 5: his height was three twenty two, but it's three eleven. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: he's a mushroom pokemon. I mean that could if you
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Speaker 5: if you're trying to like pull strings and like figure
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Speaker 5: out some weird kind of shit that you can point
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Speaker 5: fingers to. You know, mushrooms are a hallucinogenic, right, A
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Speaker 5: big fan of mushrooms. But just to me, man, they
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Speaker 5: had a description of here of what he does. It
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Speaker 5: knocks out foes with quick, virtually invisible punches. It scatters
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Speaker 5: poisonous spores and throws powerful punches while its foe is
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Speaker 5: hampered by inhaled spores. I would assume is what it
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Speaker 5: continues saying there. So, like I said, man, there's just
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Speaker 5: a lot of weird things. The denial code for his procedure.
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Speaker 5: He had like some neck procedure. The denial code for
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Speaker 5: insurance was two eighty six. The McDonald's was two hundred
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Speaker 5: and eighty six miles away from the killing spot. His
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Speaker 5: fucking cousin follows two hundred and eighty six people on Twitter,
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Speaker 5: There was just two hundred and eighty six. Over and
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Speaker 5: over again. It was weird.
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Speaker 4: Do you think though, that the people that craft and
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Speaker 4: launch these these are initiatives, These are marketing initiatives. And
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Speaker 4: if like we can all wrap ourmont our heads around
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Speaker 4: the fact that there are you know, there are normal
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Speaker 4: people that work everyday jobs creating video games, hiding deep
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Speaker 4: ass easter eggs and all sorts of stuff because that's
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Speaker 4: what makes the games compelling. And and I mean some
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Speaker 4: of these things are deep. And it's like if we
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Speaker 4: do that with video games, and we do. I mean again,
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Speaker 4: it's people's jobs to create these story I'm just talking
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Speaker 4: video games now. There's people's jobs to create these storylines
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Speaker 4: and hide these Easter eggs and make all of this.
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Speaker 4: And I mean, and that's happened hundreds of thousands of times.
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Speaker 4: How many video games are there, you know, and there's
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Speaker 4: some ones that are really fucking deep. Why wouldn't we
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Speaker 4: do that with you know, we know the news narratives
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Speaker 4: are are created. I mean, you know, you know, at
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Speaker 4: least a vast majority of them are. I mean, every
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Speaker 4: so often something real does happen, but these type of
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Speaker 4: things like why wouldn't they hide some Easter eggs and
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Speaker 4: stuff in there to make it interesting so that we,
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Speaker 4: you know, get caught up in that kind of stuff
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Speaker 4: when and and and and it kind of throws you
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Speaker 4: off what it what it? What it actually is all about?
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Speaker 4: And you know, I don't know, uh were we were
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Speaker 4: we talking uh off camera or or on camera when
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Speaker 4: I was saying that, I think this is just the
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Speaker 4: wedding of the appetite for the the general uh the
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Speaker 4: just the general narrative of being pissed at Corporate America.
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Speaker 4: Because I think regardless of whatever team people call them
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Speaker 4: find themselves on, whether you're on the red team or
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Speaker 4: the blue team or the yellow team, whatever, whatever team
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Speaker 4: you're on, I think everybody can agree in mass that
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Speaker 4: the powers that shouldn't be need to need to go
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Speaker 4: or severely change the way that they're they're doing things.
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Speaker 4: So it's a it's a it's a worldwide appetite to
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Speaker 4: hate these motherfuckers, to hate these corporate motherfuckers, and there's
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Speaker 4: a lot of them in vulnerable positions right now. So
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Speaker 4: especially with you know, we're we're new and new season
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Speaker 4: of America's Next Top President coming up here, you know,
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Speaker 4: real soon, and and whole new cast, you know, and
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Speaker 4: and there's gonna be some narratives changing and moving around
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Speaker 4: and and and the public, the worldwide public is hungry
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Speaker 4: for something. Something's got to happen. And so I don't know,
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Speaker 4: I'm just kind of playing this out as if I
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Speaker 4: was writing a movie. You know, you got this new
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Speaker 4: character come in and going, I'm going to clean house
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Speaker 4: and make things better, and I'm gonna get all the
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Speaker 4: bad people. And well, if that's really happening, the bad
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Speaker 4: people are shipping their pants knowing that that's about to happen,
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Speaker 4: and so they need a way out. And so could
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Speaker 4: this just be an event, a pop culture event that
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Speaker 4: is taking place to make it kind of dumb you,
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Speaker 4: not not dumb you down, but numb you or get
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Speaker 4: you used to get the masses used to the idea
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Speaker 4: of corporate people being being whacked or disappearing or going
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Speaker 4: to jail or bad things happening to the corporate people,
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Speaker 4: because that seems to be where the narratives are going
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Speaker 4: in that direction, and we're not and we're not used to.
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Speaker 4: I mean, just think of look at what just happened
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Speaker 4: through the scamdemic. There are a significant number of people
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Speaker 4: on this earth that were worshiping and listening to the
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Speaker 4: every word that the corporate structure was telling them to do.
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Speaker 4: They were injecting themselves with things, and they were put
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Speaker 4: wearing things, and they were doing everything the corporate structure
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Speaker 4: was telling them to do. And and now the narrative
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Speaker 4: is changing, and now corporate structure might be having to
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Speaker 4: pay for some of its sins. I mean in real life,
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Speaker 4: look at what's happened in the last month. I mean,
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Speaker 4: in the last month, you've got the Dutch government official
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Speaker 4: publicly admitted, you know that the COVID pandemic was a
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Speaker 4: NATO operation, you know, and it took and that's that's
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Speaker 4: actual headline news. And then here in the States, in
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Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, that five hundred and twenty
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Speaker 4: page report by the oversight he pretty much saying that
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Speaker 4: everything about the scandemic was bullshit. So You've got the
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Speaker 4: US government admitting it was bullshit. You've got the Dutch
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Speaker 4: government admitting it was bullshit. Uh, doctor Hay, I believe
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Speaker 4: it wasn't. In Australia just the other day was vindicated
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Speaker 4: by their Superior Court. You know, he was kind of
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Speaker 4: one of the guys there in Australia saying, you know,
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Speaker 4: this is all bullshit. All he was just vindicated. So
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Speaker 4: now the Australian government is admitting that it was all bullshit.
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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of there's a lot of change,
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Speaker 4: and it's not because of the Trump thing. I mean,
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Speaker 4: that's maybe part of it, but there's a.
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Speaker 3: Lot of change.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, there's there's a lot of change coming. It's
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Speaker 4: gonna have the public is expecting things to change, and
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Speaker 4: if the shit doesn't change, I think then there's a
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Speaker 4: real possibility for an actual revolutionary mindset. Maybe because your
15:55
Speaker 4: average every day just looking in America, your average everyday
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Speaker 4: American right now is doing one or two things going well.
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Speaker 4: If you're if you were a blue people, one of
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Speaker 4: the blue people, you're going everything sucks, you know. I
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Speaker 4: guess in January, the trucks are gonna come around and
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Speaker 4: round up all the women in gays and take them
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Speaker 4: to the camps, which of course is not gonna happen,
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Speaker 4: but there's some people think that. But if you're a
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Speaker 4: red person, you're expecting some shit to happen, and there's
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Speaker 4: a lot of red people expecting some shit to happen.
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Speaker 4: And if shit doesn't happen, you're gonna have a lot
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Speaker 4: of pisko. The blue people are already pissed off, then
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Speaker 4: you're gonna have a lot of pissed off red people
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Speaker 4: going what the Y? And so I think corporate, the
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Speaker 4: corporate structure is has been planning their exit and their
16:38
Speaker 4: downfall for a while now. But I think this is
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Speaker 4: where it hits mainstream. And I think this Luigi Mangioni
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Speaker 4: thing is maybe where it hits mainstream. This is this
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Speaker 4: is the beginning of a lot of weird corporate exits
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Speaker 4: and whackings. And just like in the music industry, when
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Speaker 4: somebody wants to retire, behind the scenes, they want to retire,
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Speaker 4: but in the front of the camera, they die and
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Speaker 4: they die off. And what's the best thing for a
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Speaker 4: musician's career is to die? And then you sell tons
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Speaker 4: of stuff and now now you're you know, now you're,
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Speaker 4: you know, a legacy artist, and you know, Jimmy Hendrix
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Speaker 4: sold a fuck of a lot more product being dead.
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Speaker 4: Did I hear Jimmy Hendrix or Morgan Freeman same thing? Yeah, yeah, Jimmy.
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Speaker 4: Jimmy Hendrix has sold a lot more product dead than
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Speaker 4: he did alive.
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Speaker 5: They go to jail too, right, I mean, you see
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Speaker 5: this with P Diddy and possibly jay Z coming up here, Like,
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Speaker 5: I don't think that that's P Diddy that's actually in jail.
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Speaker 5: If you look at the freaking picture, he doesn't have
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Speaker 5: the same the same facial features all that stuff. Now,
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Speaker 5: it's embarrassing to go to jail the way that P
17:42
Speaker 5: Diddy did, but at the same time, it's probably still
17:46
Speaker 5: better for his career, right, because I'm trying to find
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Speaker 5: a pattern here, because you're saying that you know, this
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Speaker 5: will this will be something that's more and more frequent
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Speaker 5: in the media that we're gonna see killings or disappearances
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Speaker 5: or whatever, these high profile figures, and there could be
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Speaker 5: a little bit of a patter and forming with those
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Speaker 5: three at least.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And honestly, I think there's a whole other thing
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Speaker 4: we could talk about. I don't think you're going to
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Speaker 4: actually see jail time because these these characters that are
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Speaker 4: committing these crimes are fictional characters. And I think the
18:17
Speaker 4: last time we talked, I used the example of Seinfeld
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Speaker 4: because he actually used didn't change his name. So there
18:24
Speaker 4: is the fictional character of Seinfeld who lives in the
18:27
Speaker 4: apartment across the way from Kramer and Elaine and George
18:31
Speaker 4: come over. There's that fictional character, but that Seinfeld doesn't
18:33
Speaker 4: really exist. That's a fictional character that is a piece
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Speaker 4: of media property. Somebody owns that Seinfeld, you know. I
18:41
Speaker 4: think Larry David probably owns that Seinfeld. So that fictional
18:46
Speaker 4: Seinfeld is a piece of intellectual property that is owned
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Speaker 4: by somebody. And then there's the real Jerry Seinfeld that
18:51
Speaker 4: is probably sitting. We could go knock on his door
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Speaker 4: and have coffee with him right now. Well, there isn't there,
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Speaker 4: you know, there isn't really a p Diddy. You know,
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Speaker 4: Sean Combs might not even be his real name. That
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Speaker 4: might just be his corporate stage name, if you will,
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Speaker 4: which is why a lot of these celebrities have stage
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Speaker 4: names because they're not real entities, you know, like like
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Speaker 4: my my real name is John Gusty. But if I
19:15
Speaker 4: had a stage name and I was you know, you know,
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Speaker 4: Ricky Fire. You know, if that was my name, you know,
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Speaker 4: and Ricky Fire went out and raped a bunch of
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Speaker 4: women and stole a bunch of money, you can't you
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Speaker 4: can't prosecute Ricky Fire because Ricky Fire doesn't exist. He's
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Speaker 4: a character, you know what I mean. And there's and
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Speaker 4: and and the same system that own owns and controls
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Speaker 4: the courts, owns and controls all the copyrights and all
19:44
Speaker 4: of that stuff. So it's an enclosed system. So if
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Speaker 4: you're in on it, if you're one of those characters,
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Speaker 4: you're not gonna you're you're not gonna see any jail time.
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Speaker 4: I mean, they might want every once in a while,
19:55
Speaker 4: they might throw like a bone to the unsuspecting public
19:58
Speaker 4: and lock somebody, lock somebody up, you.
20:00
Speaker 5: Know on camera.
20:01
Speaker 4: Oh you know, there's somebody in jail. But are these
20:03
Speaker 4: people really sitting in jail in real life?
20:07
Speaker 3: I have a huge question for you about that. I
20:11
Speaker 3: want Julia to get in on what we were just
20:12
Speaker 3: talking about. And then John, you gave me a perfect
20:15
Speaker 3: segue with that, because it's something I wanted to bring
20:18
Speaker 3: up huge on this episode, But anyway, do you have
20:21
Speaker 3: anything to wrap up on the Luigi?
20:26
Speaker 2: I was just thinking, like, I think we're all living
20:30
Speaker 2: in the most interesting season of American Horror Story. I
20:33
Speaker 2: think all this stuff is fake.
20:36
Speaker 3: I think.
20:36
Speaker 2: I mean, people can disagree with me, but it's like
20:40
Speaker 2: you were saying, they play a character and there's like
20:44
Speaker 2: the real person and then the character that we all see.
20:47
Speaker 2: And I really really do think even with stuff like this,
20:51
Speaker 2: that it's all fake and it's all staged, and it's
20:54
Speaker 2: all so like we're just hitting a climactic moment in
20:58
Speaker 2: the season and then you know, we'll see what happens
21:01
Speaker 2: later on. But I think a lot of this, even
21:04
Speaker 2: like with he Diddy and and they're not going to jail.
21:08
Speaker 2: That's probably not even him. They made a freaking Netflix
21:11
Speaker 2: movie what was it this year or last year about
21:14
Speaker 2: they cloned Tyrone and then everybody had a theory about
21:18
Speaker 2: what's his nuts Jamie foxx Fross. He didn't look anything,
21:22
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like they're always changing
21:25
Speaker 2: the characters and they're always like you know, so, I
21:29
Speaker 2: think we're either living in American Horror Story or we're
21:32
Speaker 2: living in they cloned Tyrone and there's just a bunch
21:35
Speaker 2: of fucking doubles and shit out there, and I don't know.
21:39
Speaker 5: Could be both, could be both?
21:41
Speaker 2: Yeah?
21:43
Speaker 3: All right, John, we talked about the West Memphis three
21:48
Speaker 3: on the first episode we did together. I want to
21:51
Speaker 3: ask you about the Manson killings. Were they real? Were
21:57
Speaker 3: they maybe not real? And you talk about these characters
22:01
Speaker 3: never seen in jail time? And so was Charlie Manson
22:05
Speaker 3: a real person? Was he somebody that got footage of
22:07
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't really like leadion, I.
22:10
Speaker 4: Don't I don't believe that Charles Manson was a was
22:13
Speaker 4: a real person.
22:14
Speaker 3: And Sharon Tate killed.
22:18
Speaker 4: Again, Sharon Tate is a character, so they can do
22:22
Speaker 4: whatever they want to with their characters. Was the character killed, Well,
22:29
Speaker 4: clearly the character was killed, because that's what the storylines is.
22:33
Speaker 4: Was there a real human being in real life that died.
22:37
Speaker 4: I highly doubt it.
22:40
Speaker 2: Really. They're big pregnant belly and like all the crime
22:45
Speaker 2: scene photos and they sensationalized stuff, you know, because they
22:52
Speaker 2: love to put that picture out for everyone to see,
22:55
Speaker 2: just like with John the reason. Yeah, big pregnant, bloody
22:58
Speaker 2: belly with the fucking news and like all the and
23:01
Speaker 2: they reposed the bodies. You remember, we were talking about that.
23:05
Speaker 4: Kind of the same kind of the same point that
23:06
Speaker 4: I made Kolby with the West Memphis three, all right,
23:10
Speaker 4: and the bodies of the boys, and they're in DVDs
23:14
Speaker 4: and ship that you can buy. And if if my son,
23:18
Speaker 4: if in real life, that happened to my son over
23:23
Speaker 4: my fucking dead body, would footage of my dead, naked,
23:28
Speaker 4: abused boy be allowed to be sold on the I mean,
23:32
Speaker 4: there's just no, There's no fucking way it would ever happen.
23:35
Speaker 4: And same with that, with that, if if Tate was real,
23:39
Speaker 4: and and and and and and that would do you
23:42
Speaker 4: honestly think that would you will? If that was your
23:44
Speaker 4: family member.
23:45
Speaker 3: Well, she was also a powerful guy in the military,
23:48
Speaker 3: so if he didn't want any of those photos person, Yeah,
23:58
Speaker 3: he was the prototype of this kind of thing going
24:01
Speaker 3: on in that area at this time. So I actually, John,
24:05
Speaker 3: the reason I asked you is because after you said
24:08
Speaker 3: the thing about the West Memphis three, I didn't go
24:11
Speaker 3: full human vibrations and just start thinking every goddamn thing
24:14
Speaker 3: is fake. But I do think most of it is.
24:17
Speaker 3: I mean I think maybe sometimes real shit happens and
24:20
Speaker 3: they just grab a hold of the narrative and pull
24:21
Speaker 3: it where they want that to go. But usually they
24:24
Speaker 3: just construct the whole thing. So I've been obsessed with
24:26
Speaker 3: the Manson killings, and I went and looked back through
24:29
Speaker 3: these new lenses I have on now, and it seems
24:32
Speaker 3: fake as fuck on every angle possible. And like you
24:36
Speaker 3: said about them planting things like the conspiracy candy to
24:39
Speaker 3: go digging through the Roman Polanski and the witchcraft shit
24:42
Speaker 3: that was going on around all those people, and they're
24:44
Speaker 3: trying to state sequence. So if you think it's real,
24:46
Speaker 3: you could tie all these things together that probably don't
24:49
Speaker 3: even really exist.
24:50
Speaker 2: If it's real. I think Roman set it up, and
24:54
Speaker 2: I think he got off on the pictures of her
24:56
Speaker 2: bloody pregnant belly. He was probably jacking off to fucking Rosemary, Like, yeah,
25:03
Speaker 2: what is freaking weird? Though?
25:05
Speaker 4: What is what is inarguably real, is someone or someone's
25:10
Speaker 4: did craft these narratives, and there was a purpose for
25:15
Speaker 4: these narratives to be crafted, and that is I think
25:18
Speaker 4: where where where the fun conversations lie is who who
25:23
Speaker 4: and who and why? You know? And it's like, well,
25:26
Speaker 4: you know, I mean even you know nine you know,
25:29
Speaker 4: nine to eleven. I don't you could use nine to
25:31
Speaker 4: eleven as an example. People would say, you know, well,
25:33
Speaker 4: you know, was nine to eleven all about Building seven
25:36
Speaker 4: and what they had to cover up there? Maybe that
25:39
Speaker 4: was part of it. Nine to eleven also was just
25:41
Speaker 4: like this Luigi thing, a really great event to set
25:46
Speaker 4: the tone in public conversation for stuff that was to
25:50
Speaker 4: come next, you know. And that that that that started
25:54
Speaker 4: a whole decade plus of terra no noia, you know.
25:57
Speaker 4: And it was terror, terror, terror, terror, and you know,
26:00
Speaker 4: and and it's gone on so long that they had
26:03
Speaker 4: to change the narratives. Would that there would be something
26:06
Speaker 4: else to be afraid of? And I think that's part
26:08
Speaker 4: of why the scandemic came up.
26:11
Speaker 5: You know.
26:12
Speaker 4: But but you know, if terrorism, I've heard some other
26:15
Speaker 4: people say this in various ways, but if terrorism was real,
26:21
Speaker 4: how come none of the like the actual like things
26:25
Speaker 4: that matter get terrorized? Like like like like if if
26:31
Speaker 4: Colby Kolby, where where what city are you in right now?
26:33
Speaker 3: Medford, Oregon, Medford, Oregon?
26:36
Speaker 4: And okay, so I'm in Nashville. So if Nashville, Tennessee
26:41
Speaker 4: went to went to war with Medford, Oregon, do you
26:45
Speaker 4: think that if I'm the commander of the army and
26:47
Speaker 4: I'm I'm trying to take over Medford, Oregon, or I
26:51
Speaker 4: wanted to bring Medford, Oregon to to its knees, Why
26:55
Speaker 4: would I waste my time killing people in some movie theaters,
27:00
Speaker 4: or why would I waste my time, you know, blowing
27:05
Speaker 4: up a marathon? You know, you know what, I'd go
27:09
Speaker 4: to the Medford, Oregon town offices. I'd seize the or
27:15
Speaker 4: if I wanted to destroy Medford organ I just blow
27:18
Speaker 4: those fuckers up and kill all the people, kill all
27:20
Speaker 4: the officials, and then install new people in Medford, Oregon.
27:24
Speaker 4: But like, we don't see terror events. It's like the
27:28
Speaker 4: terror events are against the public. They're never against the
27:35
Speaker 4: the figureheads, you know, you know, and and if it,
27:39
Speaker 4: you know, if it look at that, look at the US.
27:42
Speaker 4: Has the US not given the rest of the world
27:45
Speaker 4: every you know, every reason to to want to let's say,
27:49
Speaker 4: the US, the District of Columbia has given the world many,
27:53
Speaker 4: many reasons to want to want to mess with it.
27:55
Speaker 4: But but we we rarely see any District of Columbia
27:59
Speaker 4: official was whacked. You know, do you.
28:02
Speaker 3: Think that nuclear weapons exist?
28:04
Speaker 4: John, No, I don't know.
28:06
Speaker 2: I think.
28:10
Speaker 3: We're unanimous here.
28:11
Speaker 2: I am actually from Oklahoma City, and they have the
28:15
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Bombing Memorial that you can go and like
28:19
Speaker 2: walk around and like get all this information that's probably
28:23
Speaker 2: totally made up.
28:23
Speaker 3: Get a mcveag coffee muggle, right, and.
28:26
Speaker 4: Like there's ongoing revenue, man, because I'm sure it's not free.
28:31
Speaker 2: No, it's like twenty dollars a person to get into.
28:35
Speaker 2: Like you work around the memorial for free, but if
28:38
Speaker 2: you want to learn anything about it, you got to pay,
28:40
Speaker 2: like twenty dollars a person.
28:41
Speaker 3: Pay for your indoctrination.
28:43
Speaker 2: This attitude in Oklahoma City, that's like they fully accept
28:47
Speaker 2: the narrative, and they fully you know, they're they're not
28:50
Speaker 2: trying to look into it. They don't want to look
28:52
Speaker 2: into it. They just accept it for what it is
28:55
Speaker 2: because a lot of people died, you know, and kids died.
28:57
Speaker 2: They had like a daycare in there, and a bunch
28:59
Speaker 2: of kids blown up too, and so nobody wants to
29:03
Speaker 2: like really look into the Oklahoma City bombing either. But
29:06
Speaker 2: it's got a bunch of like weird shit too.
29:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Mick, the whole mcveain narrative was kind of
29:11
Speaker 4: like this, Luigi thing. It was like, you know when
29:13
Speaker 4: when when when he was caught in a car with
29:16
Speaker 4: expired tag, Dude, you're telling me that if you pull
29:19
Speaker 4: off a thing like that, your getaway vehicle is gonna
29:24
Speaker 4: You thought everything through, but you're were like, fuck, my
29:26
Speaker 4: tags are expired.
29:28
Speaker 3: Give me every reason to be sucking pulled over.
29:30
Speaker 4: And he had his manifesto with him too. I believe
29:34
Speaker 4: manifesto as well. So you know, it's familiar narratives, just repeating,
29:39
Speaker 4: but yeah, now it is again. I think we're probably
29:43
Speaker 4: all in agreement. Most of these things are are staged
29:50
Speaker 4: and manipulated, uh, either partially or completely.
29:55
Speaker 5: Well, there's another thing that I always think about, especially
29:57
Speaker 5: it kind of reminded me with this Mangione guy. I'm
30:02
Speaker 5: just gonna call him Luigi from now and to be honest,
30:04
Speaker 5: but yeah, this Luigi dude. When when people found out
30:09
Speaker 5: who he was, all these girls online are talking about
30:12
Speaker 5: how hot he was, Right, he is, it's the same.
30:15
Speaker 5: What's that?
30:16
Speaker 3: I mean?
30:17
Speaker 5: He is hot?
30:17
Speaker 4: Is he a good look he's a good looking dude.
30:20
Speaker 4: He's a hot Italian dude.
30:22
Speaker 5: There's shredded.
30:23
Speaker 3: He looks like he could have been the stand in
30:25
Speaker 3: on the music video for beat it. When they arrested him.
30:28
Speaker 3: He's got that red leather jacket down and he's going
30:30
Speaker 3: he's like snarling at the fucking camera and ship.
30:34
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, yeah, he's got like he's got
30:36
Speaker 5: to you know, he's in good shape and all that stuff.
30:38
Speaker 5: But it reminded me of that Boston bomber, I forget
30:40
Speaker 5: his name, the younger they.
30:42
Speaker 3: Put the rolling Stone cover and all that ship.
30:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, they put him on rolling Stone and so like
30:46
Speaker 5: I I'm one of these people. Like I said, I'm
30:49
Speaker 5: not as into conspiracies as I used to be because
30:52
Speaker 5: it gets exhausting after a certain time, Right, I kind
30:54
Speaker 5: of go through cycles.
30:55
Speaker 3: Yeah that's him, No, happy meal pox killed in the
31:00
Speaker 3: McDonald arches, Happy millblacks.
31:04
Speaker 5: Well, the freaking McDonald's golden arches is a symbol for
31:07
Speaker 5: it could be for like the Boaz and yaheen thing.
31:09
Speaker 5: I've seen some things with that, the two arches and
31:11
Speaker 5: like you know, all the freemasonry that's in arches and
31:13
Speaker 5: all that was bullshit. But anyway, the uh, the narrative
31:19
Speaker 5: or like what I'm trying to get to say here
31:21
Speaker 5: is that some of these people, Man, I don't know
31:23
Speaker 5: if this dude was on any medication some of these
31:25
Speaker 5: SSRIs and weird shit like that. But I feel like
31:30
Speaker 5: when like at a certain point, people get lost and
31:33
Speaker 5: they can they want to just be famous, especially in
31:36
Speaker 5: this era of TikTok and Instagram and social media, and
31:39
Speaker 5: they want to go out there and do something that
31:41
Speaker 5: gets them some recognition. So I'm not saying that he
31:43
Speaker 5: did or didn't do it. I have no fucking idea,
31:45
Speaker 5: to be honest, but I refuse personally to just think
31:49
Speaker 5: that every one of these events is fake, right because
31:52
Speaker 5: some of this stuff's real. It has to be. There's real,
31:56
Speaker 5: there's real, real consequences to these things, even if they
31:58
Speaker 5: are fake.
32:00
Speaker 4: You just you brought up something that I I think
32:03
Speaker 4: is important. And this is this is early on. This
32:06
Speaker 4: is an argument that my my wife would have with
32:09
Speaker 4: me on a regular basis. I'll use nine eleven as
32:12
Speaker 4: an example. Okay, those buildings really did come down, right,
32:18
Speaker 4: the people really did die. So so when when you know,
32:24
Speaker 4: and and I think that should serve just that should
32:28
Speaker 4: serve as kind of a blueprint for when when we
32:34
Speaker 4: say things are fake, you know what I mean? Like
32:38
Speaker 4: like not was was the nine to eleven narrative fake, Yes,
32:43
Speaker 4: very much so. But buildings did come down, people really
32:47
Speaker 4: did die.
32:48
Speaker 2: So so in dual agreeance with you on that, that's
32:52
Speaker 2: exactly how I feel too. It's like it's real but
32:54
Speaker 2: fake at the same time.
32:55
Speaker 3: Well, they're willing to use us as unwilling participants in
33:00
Speaker 3: in the big thing they've planned.
33:01
Speaker 5: They were fodder.
33:02
Speaker 3: But like so Ryan, with like the Manson killings, are
33:07
Speaker 3: you willing to entertain the idea that the people that
33:09
Speaker 3: got killed in the house on Seattle Drive, if they
33:12
Speaker 3: could be fake or do you think that?
33:14
Speaker 5: Sure, I think that a lot of this stuff can
33:17
Speaker 5: be fake, and there's fake you know, components to it.
33:20
Speaker 5: But even with and I'll you know, we can talk
33:22
Speaker 5: more about the Manson stuff, of obviously, but you know,
33:24
Speaker 5: even with something as crazy as COVID, Like COVID, I
33:27
Speaker 5: am fully convinced that the story that we were told
33:30
Speaker 5: is bullshit. And I was, I was a pretty early
33:31
Speaker 5: adopter of that theory. But COVID had real consequences, like
33:36
Speaker 5: very real ones, right, And so that I think that
33:39
Speaker 5: makes it real, and that makes it that makes it
33:42
Speaker 5: so that like I just get exhausted when so many
33:45
Speaker 5: of my friends in this community, which I hate that
33:47
Speaker 5: word too, but so many of my friends in this
33:50
Speaker 5: conspiracy world say everything's fake and everything's fake and gay
33:54
Speaker 5: and they say all this stuff, and I'm like, man, like, like,
33:57
Speaker 5: at what point are you just like a nihilist and
34:00
Speaker 5: you know, like a complete not a skeptic. What's the
34:05
Speaker 5: other one skeptic? And what another s word? Cynic right,
34:10
Speaker 5: Like it's just so cynical just to be like.
34:12
Speaker 6: Ah, that's exactly why I'm not saying that you're doing that, John,
34:17
Speaker 6: just to be clear, but like it's just to me, man,
34:20
Speaker 6: you know, these things have real consequences, and I think
34:22
Speaker 6: that that can't get you know, overlooked.
34:25
Speaker 4: No, And I know I appreciate you bringing that up,
34:28
Speaker 4: and that's exactly why I spoke up and said something,
34:30
Speaker 4: because I'm with you, you know, and I'll tell you
34:34
Speaker 4: something that's that's that's really really personal. My wife of
34:38
Speaker 4: almost thirty years, Dawn, she hasn't taken a step on
34:43
Speaker 4: her own, and going on twenty years now, she's been
34:46
Speaker 4: an electric scooter. She has she has got one of
34:51
Speaker 4: the most compromised immune systems a human could be cursed with.
34:59
Speaker 4: So we've been li being with compromised immune system on
35:04
Speaker 4: a major level. I'm talking like on a life or
35:06
Speaker 4: death level, for you know, twenty five years or so.
35:12
Speaker 4: So I know a thing or two about cells and
35:16
Speaker 4: blood and bacteria because not because I want to, because
35:22
Speaker 4: we've had to learn this, or my you know, I
35:26
Speaker 4: don't want anything to happen to my wife. And so
35:28
Speaker 4: when all of this stuff started happening, that the COVID
35:33
Speaker 4: stuff started happening, I didn't never once thought it was real.
35:40
Speaker 4: I never once thought it was real because I knew
35:42
Speaker 4: it wasn't real because I was twenty five years into
35:47
Speaker 4: knowing that viruses are theoretical, have never been proven, blah
35:50
Speaker 4: blah blah. I knew. I knew all of that again
35:54
Speaker 4: out of necessity because of my wife. But around me,
35:58
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of chaos and suffering and and
36:02
Speaker 4: and and now arguably a lot of it was self inflicted.
36:06
Speaker 4: A lot of it was was otherwise well meaning people
36:13
Speaker 4: trusting and acting out of fear. But there was some
36:16
Speaker 4: very real damp to your point, there was some very
36:18
Speaker 4: real damage done. And yes, so I do think I
36:23
Speaker 4: I it bothers me too when I hear people, you know,
36:28
Speaker 4: in just anywhere just being being that so cynical, that
36:33
Speaker 4: that that everything is fake. But I I think, you know,
36:36
Speaker 4: there's always going to be those those people in the room,
36:39
Speaker 4: and it's it's up to people like us too. We
36:41
Speaker 4: can have these these conversations which a lot of people would,
36:45
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of maybe a lot of people listening,
36:47
Speaker 4: you know, might think are crazy. But I do think
36:49
Speaker 4: there is a responsibility in having these conversations to be
36:52
Speaker 4: as specific as possible. You know, Like I said, I
36:54
Speaker 4: think nine to eleven serves as the best example of
36:57
Speaker 4: that people really did die, those buildings really didn't come down.
37:00
Speaker 4: Some some fucked up shit happened. But but the story
37:04
Speaker 4: fake as hell from from start to finish, and and
37:07
Speaker 4: and so you know, but by but I've met people
37:11
Speaker 4: who say everything about nine to eleven was fake, And
37:13
Speaker 4: I was like, dude, you know.
37:15
Speaker 5: The buildings aren't there anymore. But those are probably people
37:18
Speaker 5: that never even went and saw the Twin Towers before,
37:20
Speaker 5: so like they probably weren't even there in the first place,
37:22
Speaker 5: you know, even though millions of people have seen these things.
37:25
Speaker 5: So I don't know, man, But yeah, like you're saying,
37:28
Speaker 5: words matter a lot, and the way that you bring
37:30
Speaker 5: things up matters. And that's why earlier when we were talking,
37:32
Speaker 5: I said that dude's silence are on his gun, and
37:35
Speaker 5: then I changed it to suppressor because it's actually it's
37:37
Speaker 5: called a suppressor. It's kind of like calling a freaking
37:39
Speaker 5: AR fifteen an assault rifle. There's no such thing as
37:42
Speaker 5: an assault rifle, Like this could be an assault can
37:46
Speaker 5: you know, just anything that you can hurt someone with.
37:49
Speaker 4: You walk into a gun store and say where's your
37:50
Speaker 4: assault rifles? They're going to look at you like you
37:52
Speaker 4: have no idea what you're fucking talking about?
37:54
Speaker 5: Right, Well, there's some dipshits that think that AR stands
37:56
Speaker 5: for assault rifle, right, you know? And so I mean, yeah,
38:00
Speaker 5: it's words matter, and the way that we talk about
38:03
Speaker 5: this stuff is very important, I think, and I would
38:05
Speaker 5: agree with that, John, But it's just yeah, the the like,
38:08
Speaker 5: how is it fake? What's fake about it? I think
38:10
Speaker 5: those are the things that that are really important. Same
38:13
Speaker 5: with the Trump shooting, whichever one you want to talk about.
38:16
Speaker 5: With the Trump shootings, yeah, there was some weird shit there,
38:18
Speaker 5: but there's consequences to those events always, right, The liberals
38:22
Speaker 5: would say the consequence to him getting shot would be
38:24
Speaker 5: him winning the election, because I think he won the
38:26
Speaker 5: election that day. To be honest, you know, he got
38:28
Speaker 5: shot in the state.
38:29
Speaker 3: From the very beginning. As soon as that came up,
38:31
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, they're putting him in.
38:34
Speaker 4: I would go I would go so far as to say,
38:36
Speaker 4: is the consequences to those events are the reason those
38:39
Speaker 4: events are crafted and executed in the first act.
38:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's exactly. Yeah, even like what you mentioned
38:45
Speaker 2: earlier with John Benney, I have been long in the
38:49
Speaker 2: camp that she's real, because there's a lot of, you know,
38:52
Speaker 2: theories floating around that she never existed. But like when
38:55
Speaker 2: I say it's fake, I think that little girl really died.
38:59
Speaker 2: I think this story they put out about it is
39:01
Speaker 2: fake in all of like the stuff about the parents
39:05
Speaker 2: and like the brother and like all that weird stuff
39:08
Speaker 2: that and then he went on doctor phil and stuff
39:11
Speaker 2: and like that stuff to me is fake as in
39:14
Speaker 2: they've scripted it. But I think a little girl really
39:17
Speaker 2: physically did die. You know, like that's a lot of
39:22
Speaker 2: and there is dead body, but.
39:27
Speaker 4: And and and in order to make it believable and
39:30
Speaker 4: to get the desired outcome, there has to be casualties
39:33
Speaker 4: because you know, otherwise it would actually be fake and
39:35
Speaker 4: and and and a stage Hollywood production. So the powers
39:39
Speaker 4: that shouldn't be are not above uh, having some people
39:43
Speaker 4: lost in order to get the desired outcome.
39:47
Speaker 3: She died, so anybody had a hand in her death.
39:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, wasn't there.
39:53
Speaker 5: Some things about John Vaney Ramsey where like all the
39:56
Speaker 5: beauty patches that she was in, like there was no
39:58
Speaker 5: one else entered into those pasts, pugeens and stuff like that.
40:01
Speaker 4: Yeah.
40:01
Speaker 2: I actually covered that in my series because it was
40:04
Speaker 2: a point people kept bringing up to, like that she
40:09
Speaker 2: wasn't real and those pageants actually don't exist. But the
40:14
Speaker 2: all the videos and stuff of her, if you read
40:17
Speaker 2: Program to Kill and you kind of look into it,
40:19
Speaker 2: I think she was actually part of like this underground
40:23
Speaker 2: like pageant weird kittie porn thing that was going on. Well,
40:27
Speaker 2: they dress up these little girls and they do take
40:30
Speaker 2: videos of them. They do like Dolly part in them
40:33
Speaker 2: up and like make them look crazy, and then they
40:35
Speaker 2: take pictures and videos of them. So the pageants themselves
40:39
Speaker 2: might be fake quote unquote, but the videos are real,
40:42
Speaker 2: the pictures are real. I think she was really her
40:45
Speaker 2: parents were into like some pretty fucked up shit and John.
40:50
Speaker 2: You probably know about this from reading Program to Kill.
40:52
Speaker 2: But there is this whole underworld like dark pageant circle
40:56
Speaker 2: that these girls are thrown into really young.
40:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a yeah, it's and I think I think
41:03
Speaker 4: most people, if they think about it, those beauty pads.
41:07
Speaker 4: The whole thing about beauty pageants for little girls is creepy,
41:11
Speaker 4: just even on the surface, you know, I mean like
41:14
Speaker 4: like it would would anyone that's ever been a parent
41:20
Speaker 4: would never put their kid through something like You'd have
41:24
Speaker 4: to be a special kind of person. And I'm not
41:28
Speaker 4: saying that in a complimentary way. You'd have to be
41:30
Speaker 4: a special type of person to put your precious child
41:33
Speaker 4: on a stage to compete against other children based on
41:37
Speaker 4: their beauty.
41:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty weird.
41:39
Speaker 5: And I don't have a kid, and I fully agree,
41:41
Speaker 5: I can see how creepy that shit is without having
41:44
Speaker 5: a kid. Weird.
41:47
Speaker 2: And it's also like a bunch of weird dudes. Like
41:49
Speaker 2: when I was reading about it, most of the people
41:52
Speaker 2: that turn up to the beauty pageants and shit, like
41:55
Speaker 2: some of them are friends and family whatever, but a
41:58
Speaker 2: lot of it is just like weird, creepy old older
42:00
Speaker 2: dudes that like get off on watching these little girls
42:04
Speaker 2: in their little bikinis and shit. And then there's that
42:07
Speaker 2: story about Heather or Rourke when from Poltergeist when they
42:11
Speaker 2: made her dress up in a bikini and like do
42:13
Speaker 2: this stuff. And then like, I think it was that
42:15
Speaker 2: same night she died and they blamed it on some
42:18
Speaker 2: kind of a bowel condition. Again, a little girl really
42:21
Speaker 2: died story fake. I think they were doing stuff to her.
42:26
Speaker 2: I mean, like they blamed it on like a bowel
42:29
Speaker 2: condition or.
42:29
Speaker 3: Something and they said, they said, your fluent septic. But
42:33
Speaker 3: they've sodomized her. I mean, it couldn't be more fucking Obviously,
42:36
Speaker 3: there was.
42:36
Speaker 2: Like a witness and every time she tries to bring
42:39
Speaker 2: up the story, they tell her that she's a kook
42:41
Speaker 2: and a crazy and like a shut the fuck up
42:44
Speaker 2: and like whatever.
42:44
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a that whole beauty pageant thing seems
42:49
Speaker 4: to be like a like kind of the minor league
42:52
Speaker 4: farm team for the grooming aspect of things.
42:57
Speaker 5: Dude, I took my sister to a freaking used to
43:00
Speaker 5: do tumbling when she was a little toddler, and I
43:02
Speaker 5: felt weird as ships just being there watching these toddlers
43:06
Speaker 5: freaking tumbling and stuff like i'd go outside and just
43:08
Speaker 5: chill be like I'm not gonna you know, it's just weird, Like.
43:11
Speaker 3: You know, like my sister did that too, and they
43:14
Speaker 3: got him in these Yeah, they're like suits basically.
43:19
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know they're they're flipping around and doing
43:21
Speaker 5: shit and it's like, man, I don't want to be
43:22
Speaker 5: in here for this ship. I'm just gonna leave her
43:24
Speaker 5: in here and walk outside, you know, and then let
43:27
Speaker 5: me know when you're done, and I'll go back in.
43:28
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, I can't imagine being a fucking grown
43:31
Speaker 5: man and being like, Wow, this girl's real talented. It's like,
43:34
Speaker 5: what the fuck is your problem? It's weird.
43:37
Speaker 2: A weird video of Tom Hanks. Maybe it was a joke.
43:41
Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh yeah, like have you seen it?
43:44
Speaker 2: I posted it on Instagram?
43:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, where he's like what I mean, talk about the video.
43:49
Speaker 5: He's like cheering on a girl and stuff.
43:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't it like a late night show and.
43:54
Speaker 5: It's like, I want to say, Saturday Night Library, one
43:55
Speaker 5: of those like skit shows, like.
43:57
Speaker 2: They're trying to make it funny, but at the same time,
43:59
Speaker 2: he like make it nasty for me, make it and
44:02
Speaker 2: he's like throwing dollar bills or something like that.
44:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly have no reason to respect Tom Hanks of any.
44:10
Speaker 5: It's such a nice guy.
44:11
Speaker 2: Basically actually told me something about the kid that was
44:17
Speaker 2: in Forrest coump.
44:18
Speaker 5: Oh.
44:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this was before, like years before. So Forrest
44:22
Speaker 3: Gump was always one of my favorite movies, and I
44:25
Speaker 3: watched behind the Scenes DVD and Tom Hanks modeled that
44:29
Speaker 3: accent off of the little kid that played Forrest Gump,
44:34
Speaker 3: and it showed footage behind the takes of the movie
44:38
Speaker 3: where he is just like this fucking close to him,
44:41
Speaker 3: following him around in a really creepy way. It creeped
44:44
Speaker 3: me out at the time. Years later, when all this
44:46
Speaker 3: other shit came out, I was just going, fuck, I
44:49
Speaker 3: thought right back to that. That kid has not done
44:52
Speaker 3: anything since that movie, by the way, And yeah, there's
44:56
Speaker 3: so much.
44:56
Speaker 4: Creepy that to be interesting to see even still around exactly.
45:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably like that kid from The Little Rascals,
45:07
Speaker 2: that bug whatever.
45:09
Speaker 3: Bug Hall that played off Falf in the movie. Yeah,
45:11
Speaker 3: he's he goes on like conspiracy shows our size. He
45:14
Speaker 3: doesn't say a lot, but you know he's talking about
45:16
Speaker 3: some dark ship that he went clean for the Hills,
45:20
Speaker 3: the kid.
45:21
Speaker 2: From Forrest Gump. He Tom Hanks was trying to absorb
45:24
Speaker 2: his fucking essence. And I mean it's so it's so
45:29
Speaker 2: like gross and disturbing. It really is.
45:34
Speaker 5: That kid from Forrest Gump. His name is Michael Connor Humphreys,
45:38
Speaker 5: and he looks like a fucking MK ultra.
45:41
Speaker 3: Dude, Sure your screen there, I want to see. Oh yeah,
45:46
Speaker 3: is it like a newer picture.
45:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is him.
45:51
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's fucked up.
45:56
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, he looks Oh what is this? He's
45:59
Speaker 5: in the middle military background.
46:01
Speaker 4: Well, that's so I never saw that.
46:06
Speaker 3: He never saw that coming. John.
46:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's showing some movie posters. I don't know if
46:12
Speaker 5: he's been in all these movies or what.
46:14
Speaker 2: He definitely wasn't in Apollo thirteen.
46:19
Speaker 5: He could have been one of the Meteors or something.
46:21
Speaker 4: He seems to happen.
46:23
Speaker 5: He loves Forrest Gump though, or not Forrest Gump freaking
46:26
Speaker 5: Tom Hanks. But yeah, man, so yeah, he definitely looks
46:30
Speaker 5: uh a little stock. It's a little weird.
46:33
Speaker 2: He looks like a column Biden shooter, right, That's what
46:36
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
46:37
Speaker 5: He looks like just one of these people that's like
46:38
Speaker 5: totally brainwashed. That's him.
46:42
Speaker 3: He didn't he didn't bother to stick around the film industry.
46:46
Speaker 3: Now it doesn't look like it, but he probably didn't
46:50
Speaker 3: have community for it.
46:52
Speaker 2: Oh Memphis, look at that. That's how That's probably why
46:55
Speaker 2: his accent was so strong.
46:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
46:59
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was sold from two thousand and five to
47:00
Speaker 5: twenty twelve in Germany and Iraq and an international affairs student.
47:05
Speaker 5: He calls himself a jack of all trades or some trades.
47:08
Speaker 5: So my jack of some trades. Weird dude. Poor guy
47:13
Speaker 5: we're sitting here making fun of him too. Probably had
47:17
Speaker 5: a rough childhood, man.
47:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, life is like a bugs chocolates.
47:24
Speaker 5: Sure is.
47:26
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if we could steer the conversation.
47:31
Speaker 2: You had one that you were going to ask John about.
47:34
Speaker 3: Oh, I was so another one that came up to
47:37
Speaker 3: me when I was kind of thinking about some of
47:39
Speaker 3: these huge events that were highly publicized.
47:43
Speaker 4: The O. J.
47:43
Speaker 3: Simpson killings, to me, always had that element to it.
47:46
Speaker 3: In fact, it is the prototype of the modern day
47:48
Speaker 3: publicized celebrity trial. That was kind of like it was
47:53
Speaker 3: the first one I can remember, but I you know,
47:55
Speaker 3: I haven't been alive as long as you John, So
47:57
Speaker 3: was that like unique when that happened to you? And
47:59
Speaker 3: did you have triggers go off there?
48:03
Speaker 4: That was?
48:04
Speaker 3: It was?
48:04
Speaker 4: That's That's an interesting one to bring up because that
48:07
Speaker 4: was kind of one of the did we did we
48:11
Speaker 4: talk about that whole You know, the celebrities, you know
48:15
Speaker 4: when they when they play characters, you know, they're Jerry
48:18
Speaker 4: Seinfeld characters is Jerry Seinfeld real person? It's a a
48:23
Speaker 4: lot of times when when a when a a character
48:27
Speaker 4: is retired, that human that was playing that character, you know,
48:33
Speaker 4: say say the characters is retired, killed off or whatever.
48:36
Speaker 4: You know, there's still a human being in real life
48:40
Speaker 4: that now is out of a job because their character
48:44
Speaker 4: is killed off. So sometimes they the industry will these
48:48
Speaker 4: are actors, by the way, this is not you know,
48:50
Speaker 4: I mean, they're playing a part and so they get
48:53
Speaker 4: another part and they're playing something else. And a lot
48:57
Speaker 4: of times they will you know, severely alter their appearance.
49:03
Speaker 4: Sometimes they will slightly alter their appearance. I think one
49:06
Speaker 4: of the one of the better examples of that is
49:12
Speaker 4: the Jonathan Price, the current Pope when too many people
49:17
Speaker 4: Jonathan Price is a pretty well known English actor that
49:22
Speaker 4: I believe is also playing the Pope. So many people
49:27
Speaker 4: caught that because they didn't do anything. Sometimes they'll change
49:30
Speaker 4: the ear lobe, they'll do ear lob surgery, or they'll
49:32
Speaker 4: you know, do something with the jaw line or change
49:34
Speaker 4: the nose or whatever, but they didn't do anything with him.
49:38
Speaker 4: Same just here Jonathan Price. So many people caught onto
49:42
Speaker 4: that that they actually made a Netflix special about the
49:45
Speaker 4: Pope starring Jonathan Price. It's a drama, so that people
49:50
Speaker 4: it was kind of like that Capricorn one moon landing thing.
49:53
Speaker 4: It's like it's like if you say, you're just talking
49:56
Speaker 4: about the movie Capricorn one, you know, and so, but
50:01
Speaker 4: back to the OJ thing, I will say this, Uh,
50:06
Speaker 4: do do do a Google search, you know, for Nicole
50:10
Speaker 4: Brown Simpson, and then do a Google search from Megan
50:14
Speaker 4: Kelly and see if you if you notice that any
50:21
Speaker 4: any similarities at all.
50:23
Speaker 3: John, have you ever heard that Jim Morrison became Rush Limbaugh.
50:28
Speaker 4: No, I've heard them. I haven't heard Rush the rush
50:32
Speaker 4: Limbaugh thing. I've heard the Jim Morrison becomes Chevy Chase.
50:36
Speaker 3: Oh, I haven't heard that one.
50:38
Speaker 2: I actually have something I want to ask John.
50:41
Speaker 3: About to Okay, he's for questions.
50:44
Speaker 2: I watched. I don't know if it was the one Ryan,
50:48
Speaker 2: I don't know if you were in on it or
50:49
Speaker 2: if it was the first one you did with just Colby.
50:52
Speaker 2: But I watched a couple of the episodes where you
50:56
Speaker 2: guys were talking about celebrities being like secretly men and
51:01
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and then they Okay, I've studied a
51:04
Speaker 2: lot about bone structure and physical markers, like if you
51:08
Speaker 2: if someone found a skeleton that was a fucking skeleton,
51:12
Speaker 2: they could tell you if it was a woman or
51:14
Speaker 2: if it was a man, just based on skeleton. And
51:16
Speaker 2: I've looked into that quite extensively, and a lot of
51:19
Speaker 2: people and I'm with Ryan. I don't like to say community,
51:23
Speaker 2: but a lot of conspiracy theorists in our group will like, Oh,
51:27
Speaker 2: you're crazy. There's no way that was a man. There's
51:30
Speaker 2: no way that was a chick.
51:31
Speaker 3: Da da da.
51:32
Speaker 2: But the confusion in like the inversion is super real and.
51:40
Speaker 4: Their religion, right, Yeah.
51:41
Speaker 2: And so I've looked at Nicole Brown Simpson in a
51:45
Speaker 2: many videos and many photos, and she has all the
51:48
Speaker 2: physical markers of being male at birth. She's got the
51:53
Speaker 2: jawline and the bone structure of a biological male, and
51:57
Speaker 2: I'll even pull up pictures of Nicole bra Simpson and
52:00
Speaker 2: show them the jawline and the fingers, the kneecaps, and
52:05
Speaker 2: she was tall too, and so the kids don't really
52:08
Speaker 2: look like her at all. And I mean, I get
52:12
Speaker 2: it in a racial kids sometimes they don't look like
52:14
Speaker 2: the mom or whatever, but the kids clearly not at all.
52:19
Speaker 2: And so I mean, what are your thoughts on that?
52:22
Speaker 2: Like with Nicole?
52:23
Speaker 4: Oh, I will I will go as far to say
52:29
Speaker 4: that at this point in my lofe seeing and experiencing
52:36
Speaker 4: what I have, and I actually I will. I'm not
52:39
Speaker 4: going to, uh, I'm not going to go into specifics,
52:44
Speaker 4: but you know, I spent my entire adult life in
52:48
Speaker 4: the music industry, and I have worked behind the scenes
52:52
Speaker 4: with some pretty major acts, and I've seen it with
52:59
Speaker 4: my own eyes. I've seen how someone is one human
53:04
Speaker 4: being is being presented as two completely different celebrities. So
53:10
Speaker 4: you know, if if if I had any doubt, I've
53:14
Speaker 4: seen it with my own eyes, so I know that
53:16
Speaker 4: it is happening. I've actually seen it with my own
53:18
Speaker 4: eyes on more than one occasion. M hmm.
53:20
Speaker 2: But I really should pull up pictures of Nicole to
53:25
Speaker 2: just kind of drive this point home. Let me see
53:28
Speaker 2: if or Ryan, if you want to, that.
53:32
Speaker 4: Is the common thread amongst all of the you look at.
53:35
Speaker 4: You know, the people they call the elites, they're all eugenicists.
53:39
Speaker 4: They're they're all into that, you know, eugenesis, the agenda
53:43
Speaker 4: they're in the eugenics, that transhumanism, all of that stuff,
53:47
Speaker 4: and it's it's an inversion. The topic of inversion is
53:52
Speaker 4: a pillar of that belief. Up is down, right is left,
53:56
Speaker 4: black is white?
53:57
Speaker 2: The way is And did you say that Nicole turned into.
54:02
Speaker 4: Well, I know, I just look, there's so much of
54:06
Speaker 4: that character like recycling. I'm just calling it recycling. Or
54:14
Speaker 4: we don't think twice when we see somebody like Brad
54:18
Speaker 4: Pitt playing different characters in different movies, there's Brad Pitt
54:22
Speaker 4: the actor, and he plays it. You know, we we don't,
54:24
Speaker 4: you know, we don't really think that Brad Pitt is
54:27
Speaker 4: Tyler L. Durden. He played Tyler Durton. So that if
54:35
Speaker 4: it happens in the movies and these all, if why
54:39
Speaker 4: was why does that only happen in the movies? Why
54:41
Speaker 4: would that not happen in news, in sports, in any entertainment.
54:46
Speaker 4: Because you're not really there anyways, you're just watching it
54:50
Speaker 4: on a screen. And so when when they when they
54:54
Speaker 4: have to retire a character for whatever reason, there's still
54:59
Speaker 4: a human being that was playing that character, that is
55:02
Speaker 4: an employee that needs another job to do. And so
55:05
Speaker 4: I think that they are given other jobs. And that's
55:09
Speaker 4: not conspiratorial, that is not It's just part of its
55:14
Speaker 4: show business. Okay, Now they.
55:15
Speaker 3: Don't whole trial.
55:17
Speaker 2: The whole OJ trial was show business and the freaking
55:21
Speaker 2: race thing and Kim Kardashian's freaking dad and like all
55:25
Speaker 2: that stuff that's.
55:26
Speaker 4: Launched it launched that into the public conscious public consciousness.
55:30
Speaker 4: And so now out of the OJ trial, we now
55:33
Speaker 4: have the Kardashians who are in my opinion, those are
55:36
Speaker 4: all men, all of them.
55:38
Speaker 2: Oh John, you fucking said it, all.
55:41
Speaker 4: Of them and breaking back now not just Daddy, not
55:46
Speaker 4: not not just Bruce, all of them. Those are all
55:50
Speaker 4: trans and you know what because of and because of
55:55
Speaker 4: the transhumanism eugenic agenda, almost like it's it's becoming normalized.
56:03
Speaker 4: It's becoming normalized. Like ten years ago when I you know,
56:06
Speaker 4: I I have a I have a friend who thinks
56:09
Speaker 4: that Jennifer Maniston is the most beautiful. It's a dude,
56:18
Speaker 4: you're a boss it dude, Like it's been going on
56:22
Speaker 4: a long time, a long time.
56:25
Speaker 2: I mean, well, they starts to become more abundantly evident
56:30
Speaker 2: to me, Like if you look at pictures of Jennifer
56:32
Speaker 2: Aniston right now, as she's aging, like the fucking the
56:36
Speaker 2: work is falling apart and like the bone age.
56:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, it gets it gets look at I mean, look
56:42
Speaker 4: at Nicole Kidman, obvious, it's look at Nan you know.
56:45
Speaker 2: Well, you know a lot of people didn't really bring
56:49
Speaker 2: this up and like talk about it as much as
56:51
Speaker 2: they should have. But Chloe Kardashian went from like a
56:56
Speaker 2: sexy looking like thicker chick with like her own kind
56:59
Speaker 2: of individuality from the other Kardashians overnight she starts like
57:04
Speaker 2: it's like they gave her a new skeleton or some ship.
57:07
Speaker 2: Like she doesn't even look like the same person and
57:09
Speaker 2: not be the same. But that's what I'm saying is
57:11
Speaker 2: like they can do whatever they want with that ship.
57:13
Speaker 4: I mean, how many different Stephen Hawkins. There's like five
57:17
Speaker 4: different Stephen Hawkins. You know, there's not a real one
57:20
Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton's. Have there been? How many different adeles look
57:25
Speaker 4: at like currently there's been like four or five different adels, Like.
57:31
Speaker 2: I don't want to believe that because I really I
57:33
Speaker 2: really would hope she just last weight.
57:35
Speaker 3: And like John wants to think that ice Cube is legit?
57:37
Speaker 3: Do you still John know after like the last year,
57:40
Speaker 3: because it's been about a year since we talked, and
57:43
Speaker 3: I give.
57:43
Speaker 4: You I'm I'm holding in. I'm holding in. I want
57:47
Speaker 4: to if that's gonna that's gonna hurt me if I
57:50
Speaker 4: if I find out that cubes in on all of this.
57:53
Speaker 3: I want to believe you know, if you don't see
57:56
Speaker 3: it now, I don't know if you.
57:57
Speaker 4: He doesn't know about it, but but I do. I
57:59
Speaker 4: do think that there are there there are those that
58:01
Speaker 4: have somehow, some way been able to do what they
58:06
Speaker 4: do in in in entertainment and for whatever reason, they're
58:11
Speaker 4: allowed to.
58:13
Speaker 2: About ice Cube in particular, did you like really like
58:16
Speaker 2: the Friday movies or something like?
58:19
Speaker 4: I mean lying if I said I Friday word for word,
58:23
Speaker 4: But no, I just I just I'm a I am
58:27
Speaker 4: a like a pro level music nerd. I have you
58:31
Speaker 4: know that my half of our bedroom is all like
58:34
Speaker 4: record bins and you know, like like I like I'm
58:37
Speaker 4: deep into into music, and you know, the the nw
58:41
Speaker 4: A record, Yeah, it was was just hugely influential to me.
58:46
Speaker 4: I loved that record. Now I don't like who any
58:49
Speaker 4: of those people became later in life, you know. I
58:53
Speaker 4: I I don't think I could even be in the
58:55
Speaker 4: same room with Dre without wanting to just like take
58:59
Speaker 4: a baseball bat do But but you know, but but
59:03
Speaker 4: Cube there was always he was always my favorite, you know,
59:05
Speaker 4: he was. He was my favorite of them. And I
59:06
Speaker 4: really loved what he did with his solo career, and
59:09
Speaker 4: you know, and he always seemed like one of those
59:11
Speaker 4: guys that like they just kind of left him alone
59:14
Speaker 4: and let him do it, let him do his thing. Well.
59:17
Speaker 2: Brought up eminem before too, and I have my own
59:20
Speaker 2: kind of theory about it. I know you do too.
59:22
Speaker 2: But I almost feel like when they take a celebrity
59:25
Speaker 2: or a musician and they start to do the bleaching
59:28
Speaker 2: of the hair and like the weirdness like that, that
59:31
Speaker 2: it's almost signaling like like the lights are on, but
59:36
Speaker 2: nobody's home. Like they've been fully indoctrinated, they've fully programmed.
59:41
Speaker 2: And so I don't know as much about like they
59:43
Speaker 2: switched him out as much as it's like, Okay, we
59:46
Speaker 2: fully controlled this person. Now you see it again and
59:49
Speaker 2: again with the bleached hair, like Lady Gaga, Britney Spears,
59:52
Speaker 2: Lindsay Lohan, Eminem they all went through this bleached hair,
59:56
Speaker 2: crazy eyed, fucking weirdo phase. And it's like, I don't
1:00:00
Speaker 2: know if they've worked out necessarily, but like they've been,
1:00:03
Speaker 2: they're they're fucking not.
1:00:05
Speaker 4: I I would in my opinion, I don't think. I
1:00:09
Speaker 4: don't think Marshall Mathers has been swapped out. I just
1:00:12
Speaker 4: think he's been He's been drugged up and lobottomized. And
1:00:17
Speaker 4: you know, I mean he is he is. He is
1:00:20
Speaker 4: an asset.
1:00:21
Speaker 5: He doesn't even wrap the same as he used to.
1:00:23
Speaker 5: It's not the same like kind of flow. And I understand,
1:00:26
Speaker 5: you know, musicians can evolve and stuff, but his work
1:00:29
Speaker 5: is not the same as it used to be. Whatsoever.
1:00:33
Speaker 5: Real quick, I'm gonna show you guys my favorite body
1:00:35
Speaker 5: double conspiracy real fast. But he's still del Toro and
1:00:38
Speaker 5: fucking uh Brad there.
1:00:41
Speaker 3: I brought this up to Julie.
1:00:42
Speaker 5: Such a good one.
1:00:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, dude, people.
1:00:47
Speaker 3: People will argue they're dude. They both were in the
1:00:49
Speaker 3: movie Snatch. First of all, they didn't have a fucking
1:00:51
Speaker 3: scene together. And secondly, Eddie Murphy does that ship all
1:00:54
Speaker 3: the time.
1:00:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can fuck at Michael Myers too, right, I mean,
1:00:57
Speaker 5: the dude's eighty different characters in one movie.
1:01:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's show business. These they're doing what they're paid
1:01:05
Speaker 4: to do.
1:01:06
Speaker 5: Right mm hmm yeah, man, Yeah, that's just my favorite
1:01:10
Speaker 5: one because I never thought about that.
1:01:12
Speaker 3: I always thought when Benicio started to get big in
1:01:15
Speaker 3: the nineties, like, god, he looks just like Brad Pitt
1:01:17
Speaker 3: with a little more ruggedness to him and easied enough
1:01:22
Speaker 3: to pull off.
1:01:23
Speaker 4: I just think about it.
1:01:25
Speaker 3: Oh, I've got a good one. So I was listening
1:01:28
Speaker 3: to this Cult of Conspiracy. They had a guy on
1:01:30
Speaker 3: there that was all into body doubles. He had some
1:01:32
Speaker 3: awesome theories about Jim Carrey we could get into. But
1:01:35
Speaker 3: he said something about Cedric the Entertainer being Martin Lawrence
1:01:39
Speaker 3: and I was like, no, they don't even look like
1:01:41
Speaker 3: at all. And then we watched a movie that week,
1:01:44
Speaker 3: Haunted House, that the Wayne's brothers put out. It's like
1:01:47
Speaker 3: a it mocks the horror movies and Cedric the entertainers
1:01:51
Speaker 3: in there. So that shit's fresh on my mind and
1:01:53
Speaker 3: I'm looking at him. I'm like, that is fucking Martin
1:01:56
Speaker 3: Lawrence in a fat suit. The eyes of the fucking
1:01:59
Speaker 3: manner is the voice. And that guy said that. I laughed,
1:02:02
Speaker 3: and he ended up convincing me kind of like Bill
1:02:05
Speaker 3: Hicks out.
1:02:06
Speaker 2: I'm still not convinced on that one. You know, well,
1:02:15
Speaker 2: I will tell you why, John, I will tell you why.
1:02:18
Speaker 3: We had an argument.
1:02:19
Speaker 2: Lest we did have an argument because because fat bags
1:02:23
Speaker 2: under your eyes are hereditary, and Bill Hicks doesn't have
1:02:27
Speaker 2: the fat bags that Alex Jones quote unquote has. Even
1:02:31
Speaker 2: in that very first video of Alex Jones that I
1:02:34
Speaker 2: saw that you posted the fat bags hereditary?
1:02:40
Speaker 4: Why could you not?
1:02:41
Speaker 2: You could botox that, like fill it up to make
1:02:45
Speaker 2: it look like the fat bags.
1:02:47
Speaker 3: I mean, that's very true.
1:02:49
Speaker 2: The nose is different, so the teeth. The teeth also
1:02:52
Speaker 2: bothered me. I think they're different.
1:02:55
Speaker 3: The voice analysis is also very interesting.
1:02:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, they are right.
1:03:00
Speaker 3: And what do you say on that one, Bill Hicks
1:03:02
Speaker 3: Alex Jones.
1:03:03
Speaker 5: Dude, I I think it's very plausible because Alex Jones
1:03:06
Speaker 5: looks a lot older than fifty years old.
1:03:07
Speaker 4: Dude.
1:03:08
Speaker 3: That was one key thing for me too when I
1:03:10
Speaker 3: first looked him up when I was interested in his work.
1:03:12
Speaker 3: When he first emerged, I was like, that guy's ten
1:03:15
Speaker 3: years older than me. He looks like he could be
1:03:17
Speaker 3: my fucking like old dad.
1:03:19
Speaker 5: Yeah, he looks like he's seventy.
1:03:22
Speaker 4: Let me let me let me post something here. This
1:03:25
Speaker 4: this is specific to the Bill Hicks Alex Jones thing.
1:03:29
Speaker 4: And and again I'm not I'm not going to use
1:03:33
Speaker 4: a specific name, but this is someone that we all
1:03:38
Speaker 4: are very aware of. Big, big, big, big celebrity that
1:03:43
Speaker 4: I worked alongside for a couple of years. I do
1:03:47
Speaker 4: know that this what I'm about to tell you occurs.
1:03:51
Speaker 4: This celebrity, very very very very very famous, very well known,
1:03:58
Speaker 4: was not uh. The brand of this person was pretty
1:04:03
Speaker 4: pretty squeaky clean, and this person wanted to keep it
1:04:06
Speaker 4: that way. And the industry, the powers that be, were
1:04:11
Speaker 4: wanting this person to move into different verticals so to speak,
1:04:15
Speaker 4: that this person was not comfortable with doing. And so
1:04:19
Speaker 4: a h there was a talk, there were some negotiations,
1:04:23
Speaker 4: and this person was given some options, and one of
1:04:30
Speaker 4: the options was two, you can continue to be an
1:04:37
Speaker 4: employee and we'll keep you employed, but not at what
1:04:45
Speaker 4: you're accustomed to. Now you know you're you're you're gonna you're, you're,
1:04:49
Speaker 4: your opportunities are going to significantly decrease, and you can
1:04:53
Speaker 4: continue and you can just do what you want and uh,
1:04:56
Speaker 4: you're going to sign this NDA about this conversation, You'll
1:04:59
Speaker 4: never you commit again. And and you could go that route.
1:05:03
Speaker 4: You could you could completely play ball with us and uh,
1:05:09
Speaker 4: come on board and then do what we've discussed. Or
1:05:15
Speaker 4: we can basically kill off the character, kill off your
1:05:20
Speaker 4: character publicly, or and and and and then we'll just
1:05:25
Speaker 4: you'll get nothing in royalties and we'll make tons because
1:05:28
Speaker 4: there'll be people buying your stuff. The fourth option was
1:05:33
Speaker 4: you can sell out to us. We'll just buy you
1:05:36
Speaker 4: out and put somebody else. You'll your character will continue on,
1:05:43
Speaker 4: but it'll be somebody else. Hey, what happens.
1:05:46
Speaker 3: With without asking you who this is? Is this somebody
1:05:49
Speaker 3: we would know? Like households? Oh? Absolutely?
1:05:53
Speaker 4: Are you going to.
1:05:54
Speaker 2: Reveal the name? Thinking about the Taylor Swift thing?
1:05:59
Speaker 4: For well that I'm also I could go downstairs and
1:06:04
Speaker 4: get you a picture that I that Taylor gave me
1:06:07
Speaker 4: the day. Me, about five six other people, her father
1:06:12
Speaker 4: and a small a small team of us stuffed CDs
1:06:15
Speaker 4: into padded envelopes to send him send radio for her
1:06:19
Speaker 4: very first single. Tim McGraw, So I've actually seen the
1:06:24
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift story from the get.
1:06:27
Speaker 3: Go and prote prototype.
1:06:32
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and and and I and I and I can,
1:06:35
Speaker 4: I can. I can say with utmost certainty that the
1:06:38
Speaker 4: person that's the photo that I have that signed and
1:06:42
Speaker 4: you can see uh And and I would love you
1:06:45
Speaker 4: talk jaw lines and facial structures. What what is being
1:06:50
Speaker 4: presented publicly now?
1:06:52
Speaker 3: It's the guy that played Napoleon Dynamite, not even he's
1:06:55
Speaker 3: the current.
1:06:59
Speaker 4: What I get behind that? Yeah? I would well, I.
1:07:04
Speaker 2: Actually I told Colby when I heard you say that,
1:07:07
Speaker 2: and then I want you to finish your story actually
1:07:09
Speaker 2: because I'm really interested in how that turned out. But
1:07:14
Speaker 2: I worked for a doctor and she is she's a
1:07:18
Speaker 2: general surgeon, but she's also a prostadantist. And she said
1:07:23
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift has had the same Veneers since she first
1:07:28
Speaker 2: came onto the scene until now venss and she's like
1:07:34
Speaker 2: her gun lines are starting to receive because she needs
1:07:37
Speaker 2: new Veneers and so that like, how far do you
1:07:42
Speaker 2: think they'd take it? Like if they switched out the
1:07:44
Speaker 2: real tailor, would they put the same teeth on them,
1:07:47
Speaker 2: or like, how far do you think it goes?
1:07:51
Speaker 4: I think that there are probably more than one stage
1:07:55
Speaker 4: and TV tailors at this point. I think they probably have,
1:08:00
Speaker 4: you know, a couple again. You know, I think in
1:08:04
Speaker 4: one of our previous conversations Colby that I mean, I mean,
1:08:08
Speaker 4: I mean they it was in the news when his
1:08:11
Speaker 4: body double died, you know, I mean that's what they said,
1:08:14
Speaker 4: that that guy appeared as Eminem on stage and at
1:08:17
Speaker 4: wards ceremonies and stuff. So we we know that that happens,
1:08:21
Speaker 4: and why wouldn't it. It's show business, you know.
1:08:24
Speaker 2: Well, do you think the real Taylor pops up every
1:08:26
Speaker 2: now and again, like for photos or something, or.
1:08:30
Speaker 4: If you are, if you're asking my personal opinion on
1:08:34
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift in particular, based upon my experience, I would
1:08:39
Speaker 4: say that it is not outside the rem of possibility
1:08:42
Speaker 4: that the real Taylor Swift got bought out and is
1:08:47
Speaker 4: probably chilling on some remote beach somewhere with with Tom
1:08:51
Speaker 4: Petty and David Bowie and Carnell is really dead though, right,
1:08:59
Speaker 4: oh gosh, unfourly I think I think Cornell is, yeah,
1:09:02
Speaker 4: because he.
1:09:02
Speaker 2: Was getting smart about some ship. But anyways, back to
1:09:05
Speaker 2: your story about.
1:09:07
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, so this person decided to play ball,
1:09:13
Speaker 4: and now this person is not squeaky clean anymore and
1:09:19
Speaker 4: or is doing things that that they would not have
1:09:23
Speaker 4: wanted to do without being coerced and and songs uh
1:09:32
Speaker 4: I uh yeah yeah. But but these are these are business.
1:09:36
Speaker 4: I mean again, this type of stuff happens in business
1:09:39
Speaker 4: every single day. I mean, you know, I mean we
1:09:42
Speaker 4: have all worked for people, and you know I have,
1:09:45
Speaker 4: I have had you know, people that I've worked for,
1:09:48
Speaker 4: you know, call me into the office and go, John,
1:09:50
Speaker 4: we we want you to do this, or you know,
1:09:52
Speaker 4: we're we're gonna, we're gonna reassign you and put you here,
1:09:54
Speaker 4: and you know, and and you either go, yeah, I'll
1:09:58
Speaker 4: do it, or you go no, I quit. And in
1:10:02
Speaker 4: the case of these celebrity scenarios, you can't just quit
1:10:08
Speaker 4: because there's there's non disclosure agreements and confidentiality scenarios and
1:10:13
Speaker 4: and so they they will, you know, if if you've
1:10:19
Speaker 4: reached in order to reach a certain level of celebrity,
1:10:24
Speaker 4: those conversations have already taken place.
1:10:27
Speaker 3: So and they're also saying that they don't necessarily ever
1:10:30
Speaker 3: really have to kill them, like actually take the person out.
1:10:33
Speaker 3: But do you think sometimes they might?
1:10:35
Speaker 4: I think sometimes they do, but I but I think
1:10:37
Speaker 4: it's a choice. You know, It's like Colby if you've
1:10:40
Speaker 4: been a good employee but you're honestly just burnt out
1:10:43
Speaker 4: or your heart's just not in it anymore, and you
1:10:45
Speaker 4: come to me and you go, man, I don't think
1:10:47
Speaker 4: I can do this anymore. Based upon your value and
1:10:52
Speaker 4: what we got going on and how much money is
1:10:53
Speaker 4: at stake, I might let you walk.
1:10:56
Speaker 2: You know, if this story that they were telling in
1:10:59
Speaker 2: a Star was born, like the first one I think
1:11:01
Speaker 2: had Judy Garland in it, but this the remake of it,
1:11:05
Speaker 2: had Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga.
1:11:08
Speaker 4: I've never well, I think the first one had had
1:11:11
Speaker 4: Barbara streisand oh did it?
1:11:13
Speaker 3: No? That was the second one? It was actually has.
1:11:16
Speaker 4: There has that been? Movie has been made three times?
1:11:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, remakes.
1:11:21
Speaker 3: Chris Christopher seen in Barbara streissand was the remake and
1:11:24
Speaker 3: then the second game make.
1:11:25
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that that the streyssand Christofferson one was
1:11:28
Speaker 4: a remake.
1:11:29
Speaker 3: I thought that was me Garland played the original role.
1:11:31
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think that's significant because of
1:11:33
Speaker 2: what they did to her like throughout her entire life,
1:11:36
Speaker 2: that they would choose her for that movie and then
1:11:39
Speaker 2: later on choose Lady Gaga because I mean, there's so
1:11:43
Speaker 2: many theories about her.
1:11:44
Speaker 5: I could find nothing ruins a movie like Lady Gaga
1:11:48
Speaker 5: does nothing ruins a movie. Worse, she's the worst.
1:11:52
Speaker 2: But I mean that Joe gibber is supposedly good.
1:11:56
Speaker 4: No, I'm not a fan of him either.
1:12:00
Speaker 3: There we go. I mean that one's like actually low
1:12:04
Speaker 3: hanging trans inversion fruit because fucking family guy even had
1:12:09
Speaker 3: a joke about it. So that one, to me is
1:12:11
Speaker 3: almost like they just put it in their face.
1:12:14
Speaker 2: They did an interview and they asked, she I want
1:12:17
Speaker 2: so bad, so what if I am like pretty much
1:12:21
Speaker 2: saying freaking an answer, yeah, yeah.
1:12:24
Speaker 5: Well yeah, that's also like the trans agenda, right, Like
1:12:27
Speaker 5: that's something that even if she was like a chick,
1:12:29
Speaker 5: she would say that because like I was seeing this
1:12:32
Speaker 5: thing with Ariana Grande. She was talking about how the
1:12:34
Speaker 5: new Wicked movie is like fully trans like even the
1:12:36
Speaker 5: chickens in the movie or trans and all this weird shit,
1:12:39
Speaker 5: so strange, but.
1:12:40
Speaker 4: Right from the horse's mouth, right right, like talk about
1:12:45
Speaker 4: a square draw line man that oh on Disney.
1:12:48
Speaker 5: She she looked like a little boy when she was
1:12:51
Speaker 5: on Disney shows. John, you were saying something earlier before,
1:12:56
Speaker 5: before we moved too far away from it. You know,
1:12:59
Speaker 5: you were talking about you know, you have these options
1:13:01
Speaker 5: when you're a celebrity and you're wanting to like kind
1:13:03
Speaker 5: of phase out or whatever. Have any of you guys
1:13:05
Speaker 5: seen the Substance movie yet? The movie called The Substance.
1:13:09
Speaker 5: It's a great I recommend it to you, guys. Man.
1:13:11
Speaker 5: Demi Moore is like an old another one. Yeah, well, yeah,
1:13:17
Speaker 5: I know she's got that's another one. But Demi Moore
1:13:21
Speaker 5: is like aging out of Hollywood, and it looks like
1:13:23
Speaker 5: it takes place in like the eighties or something. They're
1:13:25
Speaker 5: doing a lot of those like live exercise shows where
1:13:28
Speaker 5: you know, the girls are wearing bright colors and they're
1:13:30
Speaker 5: doing you know, jazz or size. And she wants to
1:13:34
Speaker 5: like she's basically getting fired from her gig, from this
1:13:37
Speaker 5: piece of ship producer, and she wants to make herself young,
1:13:40
Speaker 5: and she gets this thing called the Substance that can
1:13:42
Speaker 5: make her young. And it's a fucking great movie. The
1:13:45
Speaker 5: end of it turns into like a guar concert. It
1:13:48
Speaker 5: gets kind of wild, but it's.
1:13:51
Speaker 4: Sponsored by a drenochrome.
1:13:53
Speaker 5: I mean it, it's not a drenochrome.
1:13:56
Speaker 4: It's it's that would be a nice gar you know
1:14:00
Speaker 4: Kaien where you got the Blood?
1:14:02
Speaker 5: Well no, yeah, the end of it is just like
1:14:04
Speaker 5: I said you if you watch it, man, you'll understand
1:14:06
Speaker 5: what I'm talking about. It it looks like a Gore concert.
1:14:09
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's not in adrenochrome thing, but it's similar.
1:14:12
Speaker 5: And I don't want to give any away, but I
1:14:14
Speaker 5: recommend it to all you guys because it's a it's
1:14:16
Speaker 5: a phenomenal movie, even if you got to pay like
1:14:18
Speaker 5: three bucks or whatever to rent it or I mean
1:14:20
Speaker 5: there's free streaming sites all over the place, but yeah,
1:14:22
Speaker 5: watch that movie asap.
1:14:24
Speaker 2: So is it like the concept is swapping out like
1:14:26
Speaker 2: the old Blood for the new Blood, And like, I.
1:14:29
Speaker 5: Mean, I don't want to get into it at all
1:14:31
Speaker 5: because when you see what happens, it's not it's not
1:14:35
Speaker 5: at all. Like if I even like told you what
1:14:37
Speaker 5: it was, it would like be like oh okay. But
1:14:39
Speaker 5: I mean it's it's worth a watch for sure. And
1:14:43
Speaker 5: if you guys want to watch it for free, I
1:14:44
Speaker 5: got the free hookup on movie sites it's a you know,
1:14:47
Speaker 5: bootleg side. They're all over the place, so let me know.
1:14:52
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's where it's worth the watch. No, for sure,
1:14:56
Speaker 5: the Substance nice.
1:14:58
Speaker 4: Appreciate the tip absolutely.
1:15:01
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're into any of this kind of stuff,
1:15:03
Speaker 5: like the body doubles, the you know, even even a
1:15:06
Speaker 5: drain and chrome, even though it's not a drain of chrome,
1:15:08
Speaker 5: it's it's it's a movie for a lot of people
1:15:10
Speaker 5: in this world.
1:15:13
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of like I obviously haven't seen it,
1:15:16
Speaker 2: but like when I watched Doctor Sleep for the first time,
1:15:20
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this is like conspiracy
1:15:23
Speaker 2: theorist fucking dream movie right here. It had so much shit.
1:15:26
Speaker 2: Did you watch it? John?
1:15:27
Speaker 4: No. I actually kind of have a no no Hollywood policy.
1:15:31
Speaker 4: I got I got burned by Hollywood early in life,
1:15:34
Speaker 4: and I was like, I'm never giving them another minute.
1:15:36
Speaker 2: Yeah you movies or anything.
1:15:39
Speaker 4: I will if if I'm researching something, and and and
1:15:42
Speaker 4: it's you know, I have to know what I'm talking about.
1:15:45
Speaker 4: I will, but no for.
1:15:48
Speaker 3: Not for you, not for your leisure.
1:15:50
Speaker 5: No, So you're not going to watch the Substance, then
1:15:52
Speaker 5: that's the tip.
1:15:55
Speaker 4: I'm first of all, Ryan, I was being light. I
1:16:01
Speaker 4: appreciate that exactly. Secondly, I actually I probably will since
1:16:06
Speaker 4: you you you've piqued my interest with the subject matter,
1:16:08
Speaker 4: and that might be a nice reference to using a
1:16:11
Speaker 4: later conversation, so.
1:16:12
Speaker 3: Research research purposes there you go ask you what do
1:16:16
Speaker 3: you think? Because obviously you were burned by Hollywood. But
1:16:21
Speaker 3: one of my favorite things as well as Julia and
1:16:23
Speaker 3: Ray and I'm sure you have intense interest in this.
1:16:26
Speaker 3: It's the topic of Stanley Kubrick. And I mean, what,
1:16:30
Speaker 3: what's your whole take on all of that stuff?
1:16:32
Speaker 1: Like?
1:16:33
Speaker 3: Who was he? What was he into? Was he intelligence?
1:16:35
Speaker 3: Was he a fucking asset?
1:16:39
Speaker 4: Wouldn't it have been awesome to talk to Stanley Kubrick
1:16:42
Speaker 4: about Laurel Canyon? Oh?
1:16:45
Speaker 5: I bet anything?
1:16:46
Speaker 3: Man, You guys, writer Lee just did a movie a
1:16:51
Speaker 3: Clockwork Shining is what it's called. You have to rent
1:16:54
Speaker 3: it on Amazon Prime documentary. Yeah, it's a documentary about
1:16:58
Speaker 3: Kubrick making the Shining and the whole theory about it
1:17:00
Speaker 3: being an mk Ultra project. But it's interesting because he
1:17:03
Speaker 3: ties in Laurel Canyon, the book Catcher in the Rye
1:17:07
Speaker 3: and mk ltr assassins and stuff like that. But it's
1:17:09
Speaker 3: really it brought some stuff to the forefront. I hadn't
1:17:12
Speaker 3: heard of it.
1:17:12
Speaker 2: Well, I know Ryan's into it because I this is
1:17:15
Speaker 2: forever ago. Ryan, you probably won't even remember. But I
1:17:18
Speaker 2: went on his show and I talked about like all
1:17:21
Speaker 2: the weird stuff in the Shining, and I think we
1:17:24
Speaker 2: both kind of had a theory on it. But Kubrick
1:17:26
Speaker 2: is like a fucking Pandora's Box.
1:17:30
Speaker 5: My favorite movie of his is Freaking Eyes Wide Shut,
1:17:33
Speaker 5: and a lot of people hate that movie, but I
1:17:35
Speaker 5: can watch that movie over and over again, man, Like
1:17:37
Speaker 5: I usually put it on at night when I'm tired
1:17:39
Speaker 5: because it's kind of slow. But oh what a good movie.
1:17:42
Speaker 5: Mm hmm everything in there?
1:17:45
Speaker 4: Is that really a favorite of yours? Right? Yeah?
1:17:48
Speaker 5: One hundred percent out of all his movies, Like, if
1:17:51
Speaker 5: I was ranking them, it'd be that I like a
1:17:53
Speaker 5: clockwork Orange lot shining.
1:17:55
Speaker 3: Clockwork Orange is my number one.
1:17:58
Speaker 5: It's great too.
1:18:00
Speaker 4: The reason reason I asked is, I, uh, you know,
1:18:03
Speaker 4: I I having worked in the music industry my whole
1:18:05
Speaker 4: life and being a collector of pop culture, I have
1:18:09
Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands of pieces of pop culture history and
1:18:12
Speaker 4: I'm recently going through just thousands and thousands of posters
1:18:16
Speaker 4: that I have And I just found a nick I
1:18:19
Speaker 4: used to work. I used to work for the management
1:18:22
Speaker 4: company that manages Keith Urban, and I was on Keith
1:18:25
Speaker 4: Urban's team for for for years doing some web stuff.
1:18:29
Speaker 4: And uh so so I've actually and he he and
1:18:32
Speaker 4: Nicole are residents, uh here in Nashville, and so they're
1:18:38
Speaker 4: they're spotted about town on a regular basis. And yeah, yeah,
1:18:43
Speaker 4: so so I, uh, I was pulling out some Nicole
1:18:47
Speaker 4: Kidman posters to have mounted, and and and and I.
1:18:50
Speaker 4: I've got a buddy that has has a record shop
1:18:52
Speaker 4: and he sells a lot of this this stuff for me.
1:18:55
Speaker 4: And yeah, but but I found an eyes wide a
1:18:57
Speaker 4: couple of eyes wide shut posters. If you if you're
1:18:59
Speaker 4: in man, I'll send you one.
1:19:01
Speaker 5: Oh I would love one. Yeah what I mean, what
1:19:04
Speaker 5: are you charging?
1:19:06
Speaker 4: Dude, I'll send it to you, Okay, gift Ryan, We've
1:19:10
Speaker 4: already got.
1:19:15
Speaker 3: In the back.
1:19:15
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, man, I'll send my address
1:19:18
Speaker 5: on the chat here.
1:19:19
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:19:20
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I don't want to put it out there forever.
1:19:25
Speaker 3: John this is and now I can docs Ryan and
1:19:28
Speaker 3: fucking stuck his house.
1:19:29
Speaker 5: And the well, dude, what so you know what's crazy, man,
1:19:33
Speaker 5: I did an episode on the cartel and someone sent
1:19:36
Speaker 5: me my address. Someone sent me my address.
1:19:39
Speaker 3: Are you serious?
1:19:40
Speaker 5: Yeah? And then like a couple of weeks after that,
1:19:43
Speaker 5: someone was following me around at work and ship and
1:19:45
Speaker 5: I called the police and everything.
1:19:46
Speaker 3: Dude, it was, Fuck, you're not one of those guys
1:19:48
Speaker 3: when you say something like that. I think you're being
1:19:49
Speaker 3: paranoid because you're like a reasonable guy. Yeah.
1:19:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I carry a gun on me and stuff,
1:19:55
Speaker 5: and like this dude has following me. I'm like, I'm
1:19:56
Speaker 5: not trying to fucking use this thing. But yeah, it
1:19:59
Speaker 5: was that night, and it was it was when we
1:20:01
Speaker 5: were wearing masks and this dude was wearing a mask,
1:20:04
Speaker 5: he had a hoodie on. Uh, followed me out of
1:20:06
Speaker 5: the store. I got in my truck. He looked at
1:20:08
Speaker 5: my license plate and then got in his car, which
1:20:10
Speaker 5: was behind mine. And it was dark out still. You know,
1:20:13
Speaker 5: I was working at Pepsi, so we're servicing stores like
1:20:16
Speaker 5: five in the.
1:20:16
Speaker 3: So this was this was a while ago. That makes
1:20:18
Speaker 3: me feel better.
1:20:19
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a while ago. Yeah, And and yeah, dude,
1:20:22
Speaker 5: like this guy he's followed me out of the out
1:20:24
Speaker 5: of the parking lot with his lights off, his head
1:20:26
Speaker 5: lights off, and he's just like staying behind me. I
1:20:28
Speaker 5: turned around and I got out, and I carried my
1:20:31
Speaker 5: gun in a fanny pack and I held the fanny
1:20:33
Speaker 5: pack up. He probably just thought I was showing in
1:20:35
Speaker 5: my fanny pack, and I pointed out. I was like, dude,
1:20:37
Speaker 5: get the fuck away from me, man, And yeah I was.
1:20:41
Speaker 5: It was very fucking scary. And I usually don't get
1:20:43
Speaker 5: rattled by ship, but I even that morning, I woke
1:20:46
Speaker 5: up and I felt like I don't want to leave
1:20:47
Speaker 5: my house today, like just for whatever reason, I felt
1:20:50
Speaker 5: real weird and uh, and yeah that ended up happening. Manut,
1:20:53
Speaker 5: it was pretty fucking scary. So I don't talk about
1:20:56
Speaker 5: the cartel anymore. And you guys, dangerous topic. Sorry, I
1:21:03
Speaker 5: guess I can't hit entry here. It's just gonna send
1:21:05
Speaker 5: you one line at a time.
1:21:09
Speaker 3: But yeah, John, i'd love to hear any overscoping like
1:21:13
Speaker 3: stuff about Kubrick you have. If if that's something you
1:21:16
Speaker 3: ever looked into the moon landing and all that shit.
1:21:18
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think he And again I wasn't kidding.
1:21:22
Speaker 4: I bet you he would have had some incredible insight
1:21:26
Speaker 4: into especially the you know the base that was there
1:21:30
Speaker 4: in Laurel Canyon that had you know, that had the
1:21:33
Speaker 4: Lookout Mountain Studios, Yes State, which doesn't Jared Ledo own
1:21:37
Speaker 4: that building.
1:21:38
Speaker 3: He does now he has a cult up there. And
1:21:40
Speaker 3: he dresses like Jesus. He's like you with a beard
1:21:42
Speaker 3: and a white robe.
1:21:44
Speaker 5: Dude, Jared let is a weird guy.
1:21:45
Speaker 2: Man.
1:21:47
Speaker 5: I talk about good movies too, freaking what's the what's
1:21:51
Speaker 5: the drug? When he's in I can't believe it.
1:21:52
Speaker 3: Quen for a Dream one of my top five movies.
1:21:55
Speaker 5: Requeen for a Dream is great. It's disturbing as all hell,
1:21:58
Speaker 5: but really good movie.
1:22:00
Speaker 4: I think I think at that time there there weren't
1:22:03
Speaker 4: as many creatives that had the creativity and the technical
1:22:09
Speaker 4: ability that and and that Kubrick had. You know, it's
1:22:14
Speaker 4: now just because of the way communication is. You know,
1:22:16
Speaker 4: there's there's kids in garages and you know down the
1:22:20
Speaker 4: street that can that can do amazing things. But I
1:22:24
Speaker 4: think Kubrick was was tapped from an early age and
1:22:29
Speaker 4: and and was was an asset and was utilized and
1:22:35
Speaker 4: created content and whether or not he knew what that
1:22:39
Speaker 4: content was gonna be used for, how it was going
1:22:42
Speaker 4: to be used. I think it's probably open for debate,
1:22:44
Speaker 4: but I think he was. He was probably probably tapped
1:22:48
Speaker 4: at an early age, maybe even born into it. And
1:22:51
Speaker 4: and that's just what he did. And and I think
1:22:56
Speaker 4: that these people that if you had, if you have
1:23:03
Speaker 4: any remnants of a soul at all, and you have
1:23:08
Speaker 4: a conscience, or just if you can feel, if you
1:23:13
Speaker 4: know that you are contributing to something bad and nefarious,
1:23:20
Speaker 4: I think these these these people have to they have
1:23:23
Speaker 4: to express that somehow. I think it maybe karmically helps
1:23:29
Speaker 4: clear their conscience or you know. And so you've got
1:23:32
Speaker 4: you know, Kubrick. You know, clearly, for whatever reason, left
1:23:36
Speaker 4: a lot of clues and a lot of you know,
1:23:40
Speaker 4: Easter eggs and things and and and clearly it wasn't
1:23:45
Speaker 4: just because he was a creative individual. There was meaning behind.
1:23:48
Speaker 4: I mean, look at you know, yeah, you've got the whole.
1:23:54
Speaker 4: You know Eric Schmidt who wrote nineteen eighty four under
1:23:58
Speaker 4: the pen name orwell, you know, I mean it's you know,
1:24:02
Speaker 4: there there is no George orwell that's just a that's
1:24:05
Speaker 4: just a pen name. It's just a stage name.
1:24:08
Speaker 3: He looks a lot like Henry Lee Lucas. Have you
1:24:10
Speaker 3: ever seen a picture of George Orwell and Henry Lee
1:24:12
Speaker 3: Lucas side by side?
1:24:14
Speaker 4: No, but not, you think I mean, I could see
1:24:17
Speaker 4: very similar.
1:24:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean another one that I thought was interesting
1:24:21
Speaker 3: is Terence McKenna and the Unibomber Ted Kaczynski. Their voice,
1:24:26
Speaker 3: their voices are identical, and if you like look at
1:24:29
Speaker 3: them side by side, they look different. But it doesn't
1:24:31
Speaker 3: seem like anything that could be impossible to pull off.
1:24:34
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know again, you're talking about characters.
1:24:37
Speaker 4: You know, the Unibomber was a character. Yeah, it was
1:24:41
Speaker 4: a you know, well, I know you.
1:24:44
Speaker 2: You obviously can't be one hundred percent on this, so
1:24:47
Speaker 2: I just want your opinion. But there are so many
1:24:51
Speaker 2: different trains of thought on if Kubrick was involved to
1:24:55
Speaker 2: a certain degree himself in some of this weirdness, like
1:24:59
Speaker 2: the petost and like some people think he's like a
1:25:02
Speaker 2: good guy that wasn't. But I mean some of the clues,
1:25:06
Speaker 2: as you were saying, in the movies, especially Ice Wide Shut,
1:25:10
Speaker 2: allude to him knowing about it. Whether or not he
1:25:12
Speaker 2: took part in it, that's up for debate. But it's sex.
1:25:15
Speaker 2: You didn't see Doctor Sleep because it's just the continuation
1:25:19
Speaker 2: of the shining, and in my opinion, that's all the
1:25:22
Speaker 2: movie was about was pedophilia.
1:25:24
Speaker 3: It's a drenochrome. I mean, they take this, these young
1:25:28
Speaker 3: kids with this gift, the shining, and they drain them.
1:25:32
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
1:25:33
Speaker 3: I mean it's nice.
1:25:34
Speaker 2: It's stab them and shit like suck this stuff out
1:25:38
Speaker 2: of the stab holes like it's fucked up.
1:25:41
Speaker 4: You know, the whole the whole topic of blood. That's
1:25:46
Speaker 4: you know, i'd said earlier in the earlier conversation, the
1:25:49
Speaker 4: the you call him the elite or whatever name you
1:25:52
Speaker 4: want to give that layer of the powers that shouldn't
1:25:55
Speaker 4: be I said. A common thread running through them is
1:25:58
Speaker 4: as they're all, you know, they all all love transhumanism, eugenics,
1:26:02
Speaker 4: stuff like. That's that's that's their their religion. And blood
1:26:06
Speaker 4: seems to be another common thread.
1:26:08
Speaker 3: Blood and children.
1:26:10
Speaker 4: Well, where do you get blood from? I mean, like
1:26:13
Speaker 4: like anything, if if if you if you want if
1:26:17
Speaker 4: you want lettuce, you want fresh lettuce, you don't want
1:26:20
Speaker 4: old lettuce. You know, if you want tomatoes, you want
1:26:22
Speaker 4: fresh tomatoes, you don't want old tomatoes. And so the
1:26:25
Speaker 4: blood thing that the child tie in just makes perfect
1:26:29
Speaker 4: sense because the best freshest blood would again using fruit
1:26:35
Speaker 4: or meat or any other analogy you want, young, fresh,
1:26:40
Speaker 4: whatever it is. And so, but but blood seems to
1:26:43
Speaker 4: be a common thread amongst them. They, you know, I mean,
1:26:46
Speaker 4: Hollywood's been pretty open. I mean, you've got celebrities that
1:26:50
Speaker 4: have bathed in it. They use it for cut cosmetically.
1:26:53
Speaker 4: I mean, I see commercials on TV, uh for know serum,
1:27:00
Speaker 4: you know, face serum is Look look at the definition
1:27:04
Speaker 4: of serum. It's blood, you know. So it's just a kinder,
1:27:07
Speaker 4: more you know, bougie way of saying blood, you know.
1:27:11
Speaker 4: And so the celebrities have been using blood cosmetically. And
1:27:17
Speaker 4: I can tell you, I can tell you with absolute
1:27:22
Speaker 4: certainty in my own life. You know, I mentioned my
1:27:26
Speaker 4: wife being handicapped. My wife and our youngest son happened
1:27:31
Speaker 4: to be the same blood type, which would make sense
1:27:34
Speaker 4: mother and son being the same blood type. When my
1:27:39
Speaker 4: son was seventeen, they took blood from my son, his young,
1:27:46
Speaker 4: vibrant blood, and injected it in key places into my
1:27:50
Speaker 4: wife and helped hurt some of her joints, move and everything.
1:27:54
Speaker 4: So I mean, and they they do, I mean these
1:27:57
Speaker 4: that that's PRP, you know, plasma replacement there that they
1:28:00
Speaker 4: do this. I mean, people do it for cosmetic reasons
1:28:03
Speaker 4: all the time. My wife did it for functionality reasons.
1:28:06
Speaker 4: But I mean, young blood introduced into an older body
1:28:11
Speaker 4: does have positive effects. You know, I've I've literally seen
1:28:15
Speaker 4: it with my own son. And and then please don't
1:28:18
Speaker 4: think that we belong to some weird blood called by professionals.
1:28:24
Speaker 4: His name was Larry. You know, this was done by professionals.
1:28:29
Speaker 4: But but but I mean, I I've seen it with
1:28:31
Speaker 4: my own eyes that young blood introduced into an older
1:28:35
Speaker 4: body has positive side effects. And you know, in my
1:28:39
Speaker 4: wife's case, it was it was functional, and it was
1:28:42
Speaker 4: it was from her son, and there was no there
1:28:44
Speaker 4: was no nefarious stuff going on there. And again it
1:28:46
Speaker 4: was done by professionals. But there is a huge amount
1:28:50
Speaker 4: of truth. And and I'm not saying that I agree
1:28:54
Speaker 4: with it, but I can certainly understand if if if
1:28:57
Speaker 4: it was somebody's desire to live younger, look younger, be stronger,
1:29:02
Speaker 4: strive for immortality. Maybe yeah, what that that makes perfect sense.
1:29:09
Speaker 4: And and Kubrick, because of where he was positioned and
1:29:13
Speaker 4: how he was positioned, I have no doubt he probably
1:29:16
Speaker 4: saw some horrific things and and there are things and
1:29:22
Speaker 4: and and you know, think about what what we all
1:29:25
Speaker 4: consider to be normal. I mean, this is normal sitting
1:29:28
Speaker 4: in our rooms talking on a computer to each other,
1:29:30
Speaker 4: This is normal conversation. But in in in a whole
1:29:34
Speaker 4: other world, you know, drinking the blood of young children
1:29:38
Speaker 4: is considered normal, you know. And so it could it
1:29:41
Speaker 4: be that, you know, he was just he was just
1:29:44
Speaker 4: trying to get release some of that horror and guilt
1:29:48
Speaker 4: and shame that that he was feeling. And he was
1:29:51
Speaker 4: clearly good batter. Otherwise, he was a creative guy, you know,
1:29:54
Speaker 4: and and and he maybe that was just his way
1:29:57
Speaker 4: of of of getting it out, you know, And like
1:30:01
Speaker 4: it was like it was schmidze of you know, he
1:30:03
Speaker 4: created the Orwell pen name, and he you know, look
1:30:06
Speaker 4: at how much of nineteen eighty four is you know,
1:30:09
Speaker 4: you know that that was fiction at one point. Now
1:30:14
Speaker 4: it's not like there's a lot of nineteen eighty four
1:30:16
Speaker 4: that's real.
1:30:18
Speaker 5: Now, you know. Yeah. I heard in the in the UK,
1:30:21
Speaker 5: specifically like Scotland, it's illegal to pray in your head now,
1:30:26
Speaker 5: Like you can't say a prayer, like a mental prayer,
1:30:28
Speaker 5: you can't do that, like you know, obviously they wouldn't know. Well,
1:30:31
Speaker 5: like if you're sitting there and you're like bowing your
1:30:33
Speaker 5: head and closing your eyes then and they saw you
1:30:36
Speaker 5: doing that, you could get arrested for it, which is
1:30:39
Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's pretty orwell in right there. But
1:30:42
Speaker 5: you were talking about Johnny, you were talking about transhumanism.
1:30:45
Speaker 5: Are you familiar with cosmism? We might have talked about
1:30:47
Speaker 5: it in the past a little bit when we spoke
1:30:49
Speaker 5: last time. Familiar with what was Russian cosmism. No, it's
1:30:54
Speaker 5: kind of like transhumanism. It's just like the way that
1:30:58
Speaker 5: I mean, I've done a couple episodes on it because
1:30:59
Speaker 5: I found it fascinating. It has to do with like
1:31:01
Speaker 5: bringing the dead back to life. There's a lot of
1:31:05
Speaker 5: transhuman you know, components to it, but it's basically a
1:31:08
Speaker 5: conservative version of transhumanism, where transhumanism is more like liberal
1:31:13
Speaker 5: they would say. But yeah, cosmism like this, there's this
1:31:16
Speaker 5: kid he was talking about Rogan and Alex Jones and
1:31:20
Speaker 5: all this stuff and talking about how they're cosmists. And
1:31:24
Speaker 5: that's not a term that gets used a lot because
1:31:25
Speaker 5: transhumanism is so trendy and people talk about that a lot.
1:31:28
Speaker 5: With Elon Musk and all that, but it seems like
1:31:30
Speaker 5: they would maybe.
1:31:32
Speaker 4: Is it cosmic like cosmic cos.
1:31:36
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me make sure on the spelling cos im
1:31:43
Speaker 5: Russian cause Russian. Yeah, okay, here this is what it is.
1:31:48
Speaker 5: I'll share my screen real quick. Wikipedia is asking for money, yeah,
1:31:55
Speaker 5: right here, Russian cosmism cosmism.
1:31:58
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm definitelynn look at that.
1:32:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a fascinating topic, man, And there's a lot
1:32:02
Speaker 5: there's a lot of like related topics you can get
1:32:04
Speaker 5: into too, but yeah, it's a it's a weird thing
1:32:09
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of uh, you know, new age
1:32:12
Speaker 5: components to it. But it's uh yeah, bringing people back
1:32:17
Speaker 5: from the dead using AI and and Amazon and big
1:32:21
Speaker 5: companies like that to create like a brain net type situation.
1:32:26
Speaker 5: And yeah, it's it's a dark topic, but it's very interesting. Man.
1:32:30
Speaker 3: The neuralink is described in such a way like a
1:32:33
Speaker 3: brain web.
1:32:34
Speaker 5: Right exactly. So yeah, it has a lot to do
1:32:37
Speaker 5: with that. And I kind of feel like, after you
1:32:38
Speaker 5: look into cosmism a little bit, it kind of seems
1:32:40
Speaker 5: like the transhumanism talks almost a distraction.
1:32:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, like look over here, that's that's because that makes
1:32:46
Speaker 3: Elon Musk couldn't be in a more fucking public place.
1:32:50
Speaker 3: And if you would have told me two years ago
1:32:51
Speaker 3: that he would be actually on the presidential administration, Fuck,
1:32:56
Speaker 3: why not? I guess Thank god.
1:32:58
Speaker 4: He comes from normal parents.
1:33:00
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, his whole story is one hundred percent true.
1:33:04
Speaker 4: I was exactly, Yeah, he's him and Zuckerberg.
1:33:07
Speaker 5: Dude, I felt so stupid one time watching a documentary
1:33:10
Speaker 5: and I felt that, like, Elon Musk was so brilliant
1:33:13
Speaker 5: when I watched this, because in this he says that
1:33:16
Speaker 5: he lost his fear of the dark when he was
1:33:19
Speaker 5: two years old because he understood that all that a
1:33:22
Speaker 5: dark molecule is versus a light molecule is it's just
1:33:24
Speaker 5: the same molecule without an electron in it. And he
1:33:27
Speaker 5: understood that at two years old, he said. And I'm thinking, wow,
1:33:31
Speaker 5: that's fucking brilliant for a two year old.
1:33:33
Speaker 3: It sounds like Terrence Howard going on Joe Rogan and
1:33:36
Speaker 3: saying that his mom used to put light on her
1:33:39
Speaker 3: stomach and that made him that was proof that his
1:33:41
Speaker 3: son and him remembered their birds.
1:33:43
Speaker 5: I was like, what, Yeah, I don't remember anything before
1:33:46
Speaker 5: I was like four or five.
1:33:48
Speaker 3: That's pretty good.
1:33:49
Speaker 2: They have They have stories like that about Nikola Tesla too.
1:33:53
Speaker 2: He was born in a lightning storm and it's fucking
1:33:56
Speaker 2: lightning bolt went in her pussy and fucking zapped.
1:33:58
Speaker 3: Him in the h that's like that his superpowers.
1:34:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have stories like that about Nikola Tesla, anybody
1:34:05
Speaker 2: who ends up doing something like that. And again, people
1:34:09
Speaker 2: have different theories on Nikola Tesla, who he was, you
1:34:12
Speaker 2: know whatever, but he does have an interesting story.
1:34:16
Speaker 4: Does have an interesting story, and it's interesting because what
1:34:21
Speaker 4: the like Musk and and forget the Tesla car thing.
1:34:27
Speaker 4: Musk is kind of the modern day version of what Tesla.
1:34:32
Speaker 4: It's it's it's it's almost like character. They're they're recycling
1:34:36
Speaker 4: the character.
1:34:37
Speaker 3: Well, they did it with Howard Hughes. Between the two
1:34:40
Speaker 3: of them, you had Tesla, Howard Hughes, Elon Musk, and
1:34:43
Speaker 3: then you throw the whole iron Man mythology into all
1:34:46
Speaker 3: of it, which they're taking quite literally these days. I
1:34:49
Speaker 3: think Elon Musk had a cameo in the second Iron
1:34:51
Speaker 3: Man movie.
1:34:52
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:34:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Howard Hughes and Tesla, if you mix them together,
1:34:56
Speaker 3: you get Elon Musk.
1:34:58
Speaker 4: So again, these are the these are characters. These are
1:35:01
Speaker 4: characters that are created, and they're put into the public lexicon,
1:35:05
Speaker 4: and we absorb them and they become you know, they
1:35:09
Speaker 4: they become.
1:35:10
Speaker 2: Real and well, you know, it's exactly how you're saying,
1:35:14
Speaker 2: because the Nikola Tesla character had all this like they
1:35:19
Speaker 2: like I said, he was born in a lightning storm,
1:35:22
Speaker 2: and he did all this stuff and ed da da da.
1:35:25
Speaker 2: But then at the end of his life he's like broke.
1:35:28
Speaker 2: Nobody cares about him.
1:35:29
Speaker 3: He's like his girlfriend is a pigeon.
1:35:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, his girlfriend's obviously a pigeon. He dies in a
1:35:35
Speaker 2: hotel room somewhere, and like it's they just kind of
1:35:39
Speaker 2: threw him away after they were you know, it's crazy
1:35:43
Speaker 2: because you're so right about that, Like they didn't care,
1:35:46
Speaker 2: but they just kind of threw him away after they
1:35:48
Speaker 2: were done with whatever.
1:35:52
Speaker 4: Yep, that's what That's what happens when they your your
1:35:56
Speaker 4: usefulness runs out.
1:35:58
Speaker 2: And you know, because pennyless in a hotel room.
1:36:03
Speaker 3: Well, I think Howard Hughes like became a Mormon in
1:36:06
Speaker 3: Las Vegas and like ended up leaving his family portune
1:36:09
Speaker 3: to them. It's like a similar thing.
1:36:12
Speaker 2: Doesn't Trump have a weird thing about Nikola Tesla or
1:36:15
Speaker 2: somebody like that.
1:36:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, uncle, yeah, he supposedly through the hand of the FBI,
1:36:21
Speaker 3: he ended up getting all of those patents. I don't
1:36:24
Speaker 3: know how much of that is mythology and how much
1:36:27
Speaker 3: that is real, because the whole Trump time travel thing
1:36:30
Speaker 3: is fun to look into.
1:36:32
Speaker 5: But oh, that's a fun theory. Whether it's real or not,
1:36:35
Speaker 5: it's fun. Not to derail. But I dropped a link
1:36:39
Speaker 5: in here for you guys. You guys can check that out.
1:36:41
Speaker 5: He's got more. Uh. This kid talks about a lot
1:36:45
Speaker 5: of interesting stuff in this video, and a lot of
1:36:47
Speaker 5: it is the Russian cosmism towards the end and whatnot.
1:36:49
Speaker 5: But yeah, dude, that whole website reeldocumentaries dot com. It's
1:36:54
Speaker 5: like uncensored YouTube. There's not as many videos on there,
1:36:57
Speaker 5: but if you want to go down some conspiracy rabbit holes,
1:37:00
Speaker 5: realdocumentaries dot com is an incredible place to watch some stuff.
1:37:04
Speaker 3: I was on that one a while back. I haven't
1:37:06
Speaker 3: been there in ages. I'm glad you reminded me about that.
1:37:09
Speaker 4: I didn't.
1:37:09
Speaker 5: It's such a good site. But I recommend you guys
1:37:11
Speaker 5: all saved that link and if you're curious or bored
1:37:13
Speaker 5: one time and you just want to look into that video.
1:37:16
Speaker 5: It's only like an hour and a half. I think
1:37:18
Speaker 5: it might be longer than that, No, two hours and
1:37:19
Speaker 5: eleven minutes, but it's worth every minute of watching that man,
1:37:23
Speaker 5: very very good Ryan.
1:37:25
Speaker 4: This time, I'm also being sincere. Thanks for the tip.
1:37:27
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I know you're probably more likely to watch that
1:37:31
Speaker 5: than the substance, but still, you know, I'm trying to
1:37:34
Speaker 5: give some stuff out here and provide some value to
1:37:36
Speaker 5: the conversation.
1:37:36
Speaker 3: Another year, when we do this again, we're gonna have
1:37:41
Speaker 3: a movie report.
1:37:42
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I actually have a couple unrelated questions for John.
1:37:49
Speaker 2: I don't know how much time everybody has, but I
1:37:52
Speaker 2: just want to get these questions out before we wrap
1:37:54
Speaker 2: up kind of. But so, I know you're really into
1:37:58
Speaker 2: like the healthcare system and every thing, and I actually
1:38:01
Speaker 2: cover a little bit about that kind of stuff on
1:38:03
Speaker 2: my own show. But I had this girl that I
1:38:07
Speaker 2: worked with and my mom died of cancer, so it's
1:38:11
Speaker 2: like close to home for me, Like, because I agree
1:38:14
Speaker 2: with you, I think she was probably killed more by
1:38:16
Speaker 2: the treatment than the actual breast cancer, obviously, but I
1:38:20
Speaker 2: worked with this girl and she said that her husband
1:38:23
Speaker 2: completely cured his cancer by taking dog Deie Wormer, and
1:38:27
Speaker 2: he has a whole blog about it, how much he
1:38:29
Speaker 2: took of it every day. It's never came back. He
1:38:32
Speaker 2: didn't do any chemo, he didn't do any radiation. And
1:38:36
Speaker 2: I have this theory that cancer is actually just parasites,
1:38:40
Speaker 2: and they can get you with parasites in your food, water, whatever.
1:38:45
Speaker 2: It's real easy to give somebody a parasitic overload and
1:38:47
Speaker 2: then tell them they have cancer. So what are your
1:38:50
Speaker 2: thoughts on something like that, like with the dog Dey
1:38:52
Speaker 2: warmer and stuff.
1:38:53
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I'm so sincerely sorry to hear
1:38:58
Speaker 4: about what happened with your mom and I and I'm
1:39:01
Speaker 4: glad that you voiced your stance on that because I too,
1:39:06
Speaker 4: I don't believe that cancer is a thing. I think
1:39:09
Speaker 4: it's it's It is also a character that was created,
1:39:14
Speaker 4: and it is a probably one of the most cruel
1:39:19
Speaker 4: of all characters that they have created, because it's fear
1:39:22
Speaker 4: based and and with God as serious as I can
1:39:27
Speaker 4: possibly say this, if anyone listening or watching this is
1:39:32
Speaker 4: told that they have cancer, or if a loved one
1:39:37
Speaker 4: is told that they have cancer, I plead and beg
1:39:40
Speaker 4: of you to look the medical professional that is telling
1:39:44
Speaker 4: you that in the eyes and say, I'd like to
1:39:47
Speaker 4: see it. Show it to me. I want to see
1:39:51
Speaker 4: my cancer acting nefariously in my body. Show it to me.
1:39:56
Speaker 4: Don't show me a don't don't show me an X
1:39:59
Speaker 4: ray with a blob and go, that'st your cancer. That
1:40:01
Speaker 4: could be anything. That could be a that could be
1:40:03
Speaker 4: a piece of bone, It could be a piece of fat,
1:40:05
Speaker 4: It could be anything. It could be a water glob,
1:40:07
Speaker 4: it could be a number of things. I want to
1:40:09
Speaker 4: see live on a microscope or or or some equivalent thereof.
1:40:14
Speaker 4: I'd like to see my body acting nefariously against itself.
1:40:18
Speaker 4: Show me before I subject myself to to your to
1:40:23
Speaker 4: your burning, and and your pharmaceuticals and and and your
1:40:27
Speaker 4: cutting and surgery. I'd like to see that. And and
1:40:31
Speaker 4: that is a question that I have pleaded with people
1:40:35
Speaker 4: over the years to ask. And I do know people
1:40:37
Speaker 4: that have asked, and I've yet to have anyone come
1:40:39
Speaker 4: back and go, they showed it to me. So these
1:40:43
Speaker 4: people that have cured cured their cancer by doing other things,
1:40:49
Speaker 4: I think what they have cured themselves from is they've
1:40:52
Speaker 4: actually saved themselves from the traditional treatment. And like doing anything,
1:41:00
Speaker 4: I I mean I don't doubt that they did take
1:41:03
Speaker 4: a dog d wormery. They could have taken popcorn, they
1:41:07
Speaker 4: could could they could have eaten a slur you drank
1:41:10
Speaker 4: a slurpee or something. Anything other than the treatment is
1:41:16
Speaker 4: going to have a better outcome than the treatment.
1:41:19
Speaker 2: And I agree with you on that. And there is
1:41:23
Speaker 2: a spiritual component to it as well, I know, but.
1:41:28
Speaker 4: You know, I'd love I'd really love your your take
1:41:31
Speaker 4: on this, because I would. I would. I've just seen
1:41:37
Speaker 4: it with my own eyes that that that these type
1:41:39
Speaker 4: of words affect I think they affect all of us,
1:41:42
Speaker 4: but I think, like I think they affect women more.
1:41:46
Speaker 4: And I say that with with grace and mercy. If
1:41:50
Speaker 4: someone was to tell a little girl that she was
1:41:53
Speaker 4: ugly or she was fat, I don't care how strong
1:41:58
Speaker 4: that little girl is, or even a little boy, but
1:42:00
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I think it would affect a little
1:42:02
Speaker 4: girl more. If if you heard you know, you're fat,
1:42:05
Speaker 4: you're ugly, you are never going to forget that you're
1:42:08
Speaker 4: It's it's gonna be with you your entire life. You're
1:42:11
Speaker 4: never gonna forget that you were told you were fat,
1:42:13
Speaker 4: you were ugly. Imagine being told that you have this
1:42:18
Speaker 4: thing that's going to kill you, that's gonna that's gonna
1:42:22
Speaker 4: hit you like a ton of bricks, way harder than
1:42:25
Speaker 4: being told you were fat or you were ugly. So
1:42:27
Speaker 4: just the the very act of being diagnosed and die.
1:42:34
Speaker 4: Diagnose is a is a very strange word. Die means too,
1:42:39
Speaker 4: ag means not. Nosis is knowing, So it's two people
1:42:44
Speaker 4: not knowing.
1:42:48
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
1:42:50
Speaker 4: Anyways, to tell someone that they have this thing that's
1:42:53
Speaker 4: going to kill them is a very powerful and cruel
1:42:57
Speaker 4: thing to do to somebody. And the human body is
1:43:02
Speaker 4: an amazing machine. If you think, and this is if
1:43:08
Speaker 4: we are all being honest with ourselves, you know that
1:43:11
Speaker 4: this is true. You've talked yourself sick before, you've thought
1:43:14
Speaker 4: yourself sick before. You know, like, if you think that
1:43:18
Speaker 4: you're going to get sick, you're going to get sick.
1:43:20
Speaker 4: If you if you, I don't know, you twist your ankle,
1:43:26
Speaker 4: I hope I didn't break it. You know it's gonna
1:43:28
Speaker 4: hurt more. If you're really stressed about not right, it's
1:43:31
Speaker 4: going to hurt you. You can manifest that good or bad.
1:43:36
Speaker 4: And there's no stronger motivator than fear. And so a
1:43:41
Speaker 4: lot of people who are told that they have things.
1:43:44
Speaker 4: That's all they have to do is tell them that
1:43:46
Speaker 4: they have it, and they from that point forward, that
1:43:48
Speaker 4: person is moving forward in a state of fear. And
1:43:52
Speaker 4: most people are not strong enough to go fuck that,
1:43:57
Speaker 4: I'm going to get another opinion or I'm not listening
1:43:59
Speaker 4: to that shit all.
1:44:00
Speaker 2: Well, here's a good example of that. Actually, there was
1:44:03
Speaker 2: a fucking crazy lady who went on Doctor Phil and
1:44:07
Speaker 2: she had a big, fucking pregnant belly like you'd never
1:44:11
Speaker 2: guess otherwise that she was like eight months pregnant. She's
1:44:16
Speaker 2: not pregnant. She's been pregnant for like seven years or
1:44:19
Speaker 2: something like that, and she's convinced herself that any day
1:44:22
Speaker 2: now she's gonna have a baby. And they've done ultrasounds
1:44:27
Speaker 2: for they've done all kinds of crazy stuff for they
1:44:30
Speaker 2: told her there's no babies in there, but her belly
1:44:33
Speaker 2: continues to grow, she has all the pregnancy symptoms, and
1:44:36
Speaker 2: she literally convinced herself and her body responded to a
1:44:41
Speaker 2: fake pregnancy. Yeah. So I mean, if you don't think
1:44:45
Speaker 2: you can manifest stuff in your body and bring it
1:44:48
Speaker 2: into the physical plane, like you're crazy.
1:44:51
Speaker 4: Everything that happens physically to you is a result of
1:44:55
Speaker 4: what's happened, what you're mentally feeding, you know, like remember
1:44:59
Speaker 4: like the Jim Rose sideshow circus that toured with Lollapalooza,
1:45:03
Speaker 4: the kind of the freaks, the circus freaks and all
1:45:06
Speaker 4: or you've seen like the people that will hang they'll
1:45:08
Speaker 4: have like the piercings in their skin, and then they'll.
1:45:10
Speaker 3: They'll have a chick that was into suspension.
1:45:14
Speaker 4: So okay, those this is a this is a fucked
1:45:18
Speaker 4: up way to get to the same place. But like those,
1:45:21
Speaker 4: in order to do that, you have to tell your
1:45:24
Speaker 4: body that it doesn't hurt, because it does hurt. Pain
1:45:29
Speaker 4: is mental, you know, but you can turn it off.
1:45:32
Speaker 4: And so those people have learned to turn off pain.
1:45:36
Speaker 4: You know, there's there's I think you know, there's athletes
1:45:38
Speaker 4: and stuff. Well, you know, anyone that's doing endurance stuff
1:45:42
Speaker 4: learns to they are controlling their physical state of being
1:45:48
Speaker 4: and they can tell themselves, I'm not tired. You know,
1:45:52
Speaker 4: this doesn't hurt, you know, and and it that's that's
1:45:58
Speaker 4: a positive use of the mind controlling the body. But
1:46:02
Speaker 4: the negative use would be like telling someone you have cancer.
1:46:05
Speaker 4: You got and and I wish I could collectively at
1:46:09
Speaker 4: one time, take my fist and drive it into the
1:46:12
Speaker 4: face of every medical professional that's ever looked another human
1:46:17
Speaker 4: being in the eyes and said you have three months
1:46:19
Speaker 4: or six months to live.
1:46:21
Speaker 2: I mean that is they did it to my mom.
1:46:25
Speaker 4: I mean it like, imagine again again, anyone that's been
1:46:31
Speaker 4: a parent, or or even a best friend, or your
1:46:35
Speaker 4: your boyfriend or your girlfriend, anyone that you care about,
1:46:38
Speaker 4: if you knew that that person had a year to live,
1:46:42
Speaker 4: would you tell them?
1:46:44
Speaker 2: Mm?
1:46:45
Speaker 4: Yeah?
1:46:45
Speaker 3: Never would you?
1:46:47
Speaker 4: I mean I mean I would I wouldn't. I love
1:46:52
Speaker 4: my wife more than anything, but if I knew she,
1:46:54
Speaker 4: if I knew she was going to die tomorrow, I would.
1:46:59
Speaker 4: I would live of that. I would live today with
1:47:01
Speaker 4: every fucking second of passion, and I would want her
1:47:05
Speaker 4: to pass as happy as she possibly could. But I
1:47:09
Speaker 4: would never. You would never would you tell your kid
1:47:12
Speaker 4: that they're gonna die in six months if you knew
1:47:14
Speaker 4: that they were going to die? First of all, how
1:47:16
Speaker 4: could you even know that?
1:47:18
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm?
1:47:20
Speaker 2: How could how can agreeance with you so physical attack?
1:47:26
Speaker 5: That's like that old question, like would you want to
1:47:28
Speaker 5: know like the day and the time and the method
1:47:30
Speaker 5: that you're going to die? Right, Like a lot of
1:47:32
Speaker 5: people would, and then a lot of people wouldn't you know,
1:47:34
Speaker 5: It's just I I personally would not, But I mean
1:47:38
Speaker 5: there's a lot of people that would like to know Colby.
1:47:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to know dying tonight make my best
1:47:48
Speaker 3: fucking damn table.
1:47:52
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a that's a that's deep.
1:47:55
Speaker 2: It's it's like I said, it's like a mental, physical,
1:47:58
Speaker 2: spiritual attack on a person to say stuff like that
1:48:02
Speaker 2: and then subject them to months of Like you just
1:48:05
Speaker 2: told me, I have six months to live, and you
1:48:07
Speaker 2: want fucking four of those months to be trying to
1:48:10
Speaker 2: save me so I can live a little bit longer
1:48:12
Speaker 2: with a bunch of toxic shit that makes me sick
1:48:14
Speaker 2: all the time, makes my teeth fall out, my hair
1:48:17
Speaker 2: fall out, and pukin and all this. So if I
1:48:21
Speaker 2: have six months to live, you're telling me I'm gonna
1:48:23
Speaker 2: spend half of those months fucking being chemically killed basically,
1:48:29
Speaker 2: and then hopefully that prolongs it a little bit longer. So,
1:48:32
Speaker 2: I mean, I have a lot of theories on it,
1:48:34
Speaker 2: and also kind of circle back to something we were
1:48:37
Speaker 2: talking about earlier with like you said, if you wanted
1:48:41
Speaker 2: to attack Medford, Oregon, why would you like kill a
1:48:43
Speaker 2: bunch of people in a movie theater. The same thing
1:48:47
Speaker 2: exists in my mind when it comes to like it's
1:48:50
Speaker 2: so easy to kill people without doing all of that
1:48:53
Speaker 2: extra shit. All you gotta do is put like a
1:48:55
Speaker 2: shit ton of parasites in somebody's like water supply or
1:49:00
Speaker 2: something like that. You've killed everybody at that point. You
1:49:02
Speaker 2: don't even have to like put your hands on them,
1:49:04
Speaker 2: which is why COVID was such an interesting tool that
1:49:07
Speaker 2: they used. But I mean, biological warfare is where it's at,
1:49:11
Speaker 2: not like bombs and explosions and ship.
1:49:13
Speaker 4: No no, no doubt, which is why, which is why
1:49:15
Speaker 4: I think, you know, for the most part, you know,
1:49:17
Speaker 4: the terrorism isn't real terrorism is is you know that
1:49:21
Speaker 4: it was part of that whole terraan noia campaign that
1:49:23
Speaker 4: nine to eleven kicked off, and and I get I'm
1:49:28
Speaker 4: glad that resonated because because hope hopefully it resonates with
1:49:32
Speaker 4: with with others that are hearing this, because you just
1:49:34
Speaker 4: that's not how you'd you know, even even people like
1:49:38
Speaker 4: people are thinking like, you know, I don't know, we
1:49:43
Speaker 4: the whole thing with TikTok being a Chinese company, you know,
1:49:46
Speaker 4: they're they're taking all of your data. You know, well,
1:49:49
Speaker 4: well ge so is fed book and the Meta and
1:49:53
Speaker 4: Amazon and Google.
1:49:55
Speaker 3: You know, it's like, what Ryan, that TikTok isn't even
1:49:58
Speaker 3: Chinese owned?
1:49:59
Speaker 4: Well you it was even if it was, who cares?
1:50:04
Speaker 4: And and what is China's like the the the district
1:50:08
Speaker 4: of Columbia's biggest business partner.
1:50:11
Speaker 5: Do you do you think that?
1:50:12
Speaker 4: Do you think the powers that shouldn't be in China
1:50:14
Speaker 4: want anything to happen to the American public? No, that's
1:50:19
Speaker 4: a fucking bank roll, you know, that's their customer base.
1:50:23
Speaker 4: So I don't doubt that there are members of the
1:50:26
Speaker 4: Chinese government that have issues with members of other governments.
1:50:29
Speaker 4: But if you've got beef with the wouldn't you attack
1:50:33
Speaker 4: that ship? You would? I'm I'm Chinese terrorist and I'm
1:50:37
Speaker 4: met at the US government, So I'm gonna go shoot
1:50:39
Speaker 4: up a shopping mall. That'll show them what this doesn't
1:50:45
Speaker 4: even that's not that's not how gangsta ship works. And
1:50:49
Speaker 4: if there were, if there were real gangsters, they they'd
1:50:53
Speaker 4: be taking care of business. And I'm sorry, but if
1:50:56
Speaker 4: if terrorism was real, especially Middle East terrorist, you're you know,
1:51:02
Speaker 4: I don't even want to disrespect the Middle East by
1:51:05
Speaker 4: by saying that they're Middle Eastern terrorists because they're they're
1:51:08
Speaker 4: they got bad aim you know, stop stop stop aiming
1:51:13
Speaker 4: at shopping malls and marathons and and and these and
1:51:16
Speaker 4: these weird little off targets and aim towards the district
1:51:20
Speaker 4: of criminals stuff there.
1:51:24
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and I think that they can pull that
1:51:25
Speaker 5: kind of stuff off. And then seeing how that war
1:51:27
Speaker 5: went with them, I mean it's it's people throwing rocks
1:51:29
Speaker 5: and sticks at tanks and and you know, massive guns
1:51:32
Speaker 5: and stuff like. They don't have the ability, I don't
1:51:34
Speaker 5: think to really do that kind of stuff, you know,
1:51:37
Speaker 5: it like you're saying, John, it makes zero sense when
1:51:39
Speaker 5: you actually think about it for a second. But they
1:51:42
Speaker 5: use the fear and the you know, American pride and
1:51:44
Speaker 5: all that stuff to combat that, I think, And then
1:51:47
Speaker 5: you don't think logically.
1:51:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and and and if I wanted, if I
1:51:51
Speaker 4: wanted to stoke some American pride and get get them
1:51:54
Speaker 4: worked up, well then I would just you know, I'd
1:51:57
Speaker 4: get some MK ultra goon to go shoot up a
1:51:59
Speaker 4: shopping all and say that it was Russian terrorists, and
1:52:02
Speaker 4: then America's gonna go down? How many false flags? I mean,
1:52:08
Speaker 4: like it's just like, how many times have we seen
1:52:11
Speaker 4: stories of like, you know, ah, you know, somebody spray
1:52:15
Speaker 4: painted the N word on somebody's locker in school. Well,
1:52:18
Speaker 4: it was a black person that spray painted the N
1:52:20
Speaker 4: word to make you know, soak the you know, or
1:52:22
Speaker 4: somebody spray painted a swastika on the you know, on
1:52:26
Speaker 4: the wall. It's like, yeah, like again, that's that's not
1:52:32
Speaker 4: that's not how gangster shit works.
1:52:34
Speaker 5: But then they tell you too that if you're afraid,
1:52:36
Speaker 5: the terrorists win, right if you're afraid of it, So
1:52:39
Speaker 5: it's like they're they're trying to get ahead of it
1:52:41
Speaker 5: like that.
1:52:42
Speaker 4: Well well yeah, but yeah, again, the terrorists in that
1:52:46
Speaker 4: scenario would be the characters, you know, and they created
1:52:49
Speaker 4: these characters of terrorists, and in order to prop up
1:52:51
Speaker 4: that character storyline, you got you gotta have some you
1:52:54
Speaker 4: gotta have some false flags events to prop it up
1:52:57
Speaker 4: for you know, the character of the terrorists doesn't do
1:53:00
Speaker 4: much good.
1:53:01
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's got to be the good guys and
1:53:03
Speaker 5: the bad guys. And the good guys what you got
1:53:08
Speaker 5: to create the good guys and the bad guys, and
1:53:09
Speaker 5: you have to control, and you have to be in
1:53:11
Speaker 5: control of them both, right. And the thing is they
1:53:13
Speaker 5: say that the good guys are American government and the
1:53:15
Speaker 5: bad guys are you know, the other governments and the
1:53:17
Speaker 5: other terrorists of the world, and it's okay to just
1:53:19
Speaker 5: be like thinking that, Yeah, maybe there's just two assholes
1:53:22
Speaker 5: fighting and we don't really need to have a dog
1:53:24
Speaker 5: in the race, right because I don't know, our government's
1:53:28
Speaker 5: not not too much on the up and up. In
1:53:29
Speaker 5: my opinion, I think a lot of people share that
1:53:32
Speaker 5: sentiment there. But yeah, it's a it's as far as
1:53:34
Speaker 5: I'm concerned, it's two assholes fighting. Whenever countries are going
1:53:37
Speaker 5: to war. There's no real good stuff.
1:53:39
Speaker 3: War if it lands on my front doorstep. But I'm
1:53:42
Speaker 3: not really worried about that happening anytime.
1:53:44
Speaker 5: Soon, yeah, or even in the country, right. And I'm
1:53:46
Speaker 5: sure that you're getting at that same thing, like it,
1:53:48
Speaker 5: you know, if someone were to come here and directly
1:53:51
Speaker 5: threaten us, and it's real sure, I mean, I think
1:53:54
Speaker 5: a lot of people would fight.
1:53:55
Speaker 4: But what like they think of a scenario where I mean,
1:54:01
Speaker 4: and I'm not totally being a smart ass on this,
1:54:04
Speaker 4: but I mean, and it is an open ended question.
1:54:06
Speaker 4: Think of a scenario like what to what good to
1:54:10
Speaker 4: any foreign power would it be to take over Let's
1:54:16
Speaker 4: just use the United States to just take over the
1:54:18
Speaker 4: United States? Like what like like round everybody up and
1:54:22
Speaker 4: put them in camps?
1:54:23
Speaker 3: Like what that's the that ship takes to do? Yeah?
1:54:28
Speaker 4: What? What a pain in the ass. I mean just
1:54:31
Speaker 4: to I live in a small little town. Just to
1:54:33
Speaker 4: round everybody up in this small little town would be
1:54:35
Speaker 4: a pain in the ass. Would be you You'd have
1:54:38
Speaker 4: to kill half of them because it wouldn't no one
1:54:41
Speaker 4: would do it. It'd be like, fuck out of here,
1:54:43
Speaker 4: I'm watching TV the game, you know, like, and then
1:54:47
Speaker 4: you'd have a bunch of dead bodies stinking and smelling
1:54:51
Speaker 4: the place up. It's like, what, under what reasonable scenario
1:54:56
Speaker 4: would a foreign power come in and take over another country.
1:55:01
Speaker 4: They wouldn't take over the country. They may take over
1:55:04
Speaker 4: the administrative you know, the the the offices and all
1:55:08
Speaker 4: of that, but it would be to their advantage to
1:55:11
Speaker 4: have the people just not even know anything about that.
1:55:13
Speaker 4: Let's let the people go on about there. Now they're
1:55:16
Speaker 4: really in charge, you know what I'm saying. You'd quietly
1:55:19
Speaker 4: take control of the actual control mechanism.
1:55:22
Speaker 3: Do you think that, like the Yuri Bezumenoff interview where
1:55:26
Speaker 3: he talked about all that in the early eighties, do
1:55:28
Speaker 3: you think there's something to that. I'm not so he
1:55:32
Speaker 3: made he was a Russian spy, who did you know?
1:55:36
Speaker 3: He defected and he ended up here and he went
1:55:38
Speaker 3: on the media circuit, and he was really the first
1:55:41
Speaker 3: one who brought into mainstream.
1:55:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, you really were a Russian spy and you defected.
1:55:50
Speaker 4: Of course the next thing you would do is go
1:55:52
Speaker 4: on a media tour.
1:55:53
Speaker 3: See exactly. So that's the point I'm getting to. But
1:55:55
Speaker 3: he planned the seed that you don't use school warfare anymore.
1:56:01
Speaker 3: You take a few decades to infiltrate every meaningful, influential institution.
1:56:08
Speaker 3: And he was warning that that was going to happen.
1:56:10
Speaker 3: And now there's people saying, look, it's happening. Look at Disney,
1:56:13
Speaker 3: look at the colleges, which Disney and the colleges were
1:56:16
Speaker 3: always like that, And so I don't know. So do
1:56:20
Speaker 3: you think all that stuff's kind of fake? Cold warship
1:56:24
Speaker 3: just the whole back and forth with all that throughout
1:56:26
Speaker 3: the ages.
1:56:27
Speaker 4: I would like I would like to see an example
1:56:31
Speaker 4: of an actual military operation that was organic and necessary.
1:56:38
Speaker 5: Well what about like the whole, like the taking of
1:56:41
Speaker 5: this country, like how it is now, like the like
1:56:43
Speaker 5: our ancestors. And I'm not I'm glad that they did it,
1:56:47
Speaker 5: to be clear, I'm not. I'm not one of these
1:56:48
Speaker 5: people that's like, you know, overly Native American sympathetic or anything.
1:56:52
Speaker 5: I got nothing against the people or nothing like that.
1:56:54
Speaker 5: But like they came in here, white people came in
1:56:56
Speaker 5: here and took all that land and all that all
1:56:59
Speaker 5: the resources from the Native Americans, and that I mean,
1:57:03
Speaker 5: as far as I'm aware, that's a real thing. That's
1:57:06
Speaker 5: not a fake thing. So I think that a foreign eight,
1:57:09
Speaker 5: a foreign entity could want to do the same thing
1:57:12
Speaker 5: to us. It wouldn't be as easy as it was
1:57:14
Speaker 5: back then because it was basically people with guns fighting
1:57:17
Speaker 5: people with bows and arrows. But I mean, I think
1:57:20
Speaker 5: that there's always a reason that some someone could want
1:57:25
Speaker 5: to take the resources in the land from us. You know,
1:57:28
Speaker 5: there's got to be I mean, I can't justify in
1:57:31
Speaker 5: my mind because, like you said, John to be a
1:57:33
Speaker 5: pain in the ass, and there's a lot of guns here.
1:57:35
Speaker 5: There's more guns than people. I think a lot of
1:57:38
Speaker 5: the people that talk tough about their guns. They wouldn't
1:57:40
Speaker 5: use it because they can't even run a fucking mile,
1:57:42
Speaker 5: you know, and you need to be a little bit
1:57:44
Speaker 5: physically fit to actually fight a war. But you know,
1:57:48
Speaker 5: I think that it could happen. I don't think it will,
1:57:50
Speaker 5: but I think it's possible, you know, And I think
1:57:52
Speaker 5: that there would be motives for outside entities to want
1:57:55
Speaker 5: to do that.
1:57:56
Speaker 4: There's there's always going to be turf wars always. But
1:58:02
Speaker 4: again back to the gangster thing. It's like when when
1:58:05
Speaker 4: when there's gang turf wars, they're they're controlling a certain
1:58:11
Speaker 4: aspect of that area. They're not controlling that area in totality,
1:58:17
Speaker 4: you know.
1:58:18
Speaker 5: And also it's like a subversion type thing invasion.
1:58:21
Speaker 4: Well, I mean like like if I, you know, if
1:58:24
Speaker 4: I was a foreign you know, if I was a
1:58:26
Speaker 4: foreign entity and I wanted to h take I want
1:58:31
Speaker 4: to do a land grab, you know, I want I
1:58:32
Speaker 4: wanted I wanted someone else's turf. I I don't think
1:58:36
Speaker 4: that I would have any you know, illusions of grandeur
1:58:41
Speaker 4: that I'm going to go in and and I'm going
1:58:44
Speaker 4: to completely clear everything out and now I'm gonna have
1:58:47
Speaker 4: this piece of land for me to do with whatever
1:58:50
Speaker 4: I want, because again I'd have to kill everybody, burn everything.
1:58:55
Speaker 5: I mean, good for the soildies are good for the soil,
1:58:58
Speaker 5: you know.
1:58:59
Speaker 4: Well, you know, yep, perhaps, but it sure seems like
1:59:04
Speaker 4: like I don't know why a foreign entity would would
1:59:09
Speaker 4: would want to come onto US soil and put people
1:59:16
Speaker 4: in camps and round them up. And I mean there's.
1:59:19
Speaker 3: John do you think World War two narratives at all?
1:59:22
Speaker 4: I don't think any of the World War narratives are
1:59:24
Speaker 4: as as it. Again, I stand by my statement, I'd
1:59:29
Speaker 4: like to see an example of a military action ever
1:59:32
Speaker 4: in history that was in current modern history that would
1:59:37
Speaker 4: that was both organic and necessary.
1:59:43
Speaker 2: We still have a body count to deal with. I
1:59:45
Speaker 2: just don't think it's as they made it out to be.
1:59:49
Speaker 3: Well, it's like nine to eleven, like he was talking earlier.
1:59:51
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously people die when I mean I always thought,
1:59:56
Speaker 3: just from my own like base of research, that eugenics
2:00:02
Speaker 3: everything that was thought of and conceived and eventually tried
2:00:06
Speaker 3: took place maybe in some camps in that era in Europe,
2:00:09
Speaker 3: but it was probably us doing it. Paper Clip was
2:00:11
Speaker 3: just trying to hide the trail of like, yeah, it's
2:00:13
Speaker 3: been us all along and we'll continue to do it
2:00:17
Speaker 3: like you talked about with the COVID experiments all that stuff,
2:00:21
Speaker 3: like they do it out in the open, and then
2:00:23
Speaker 3: they might like come up with the boogeyman. But like
2:00:26
Speaker 3: I mean, you got even talk about Holocaust like possibilities.
2:00:29
Speaker 4: That are there. There you there you go. I mean,
2:00:33
Speaker 4: if if you you know anything that you're told you
2:00:36
Speaker 4: can't talk about, you know, you're onto something, you know,
2:00:39
Speaker 4: and there are people and in the in the case
2:00:42
Speaker 4: of of Holocaust Incorporated, they you know, there are people
2:00:47
Speaker 4: in jail for talking about Holocaust incorporated. Yeah, I just
2:00:52
Speaker 4: add the ink on the end of it, because you
2:00:53
Speaker 4: know clearly was uh you know another initiative.
2:00:59
Speaker 5: You get add a trademark or a copyright to it too,
2:01:01
Speaker 5: probably right, did you just mention eugenics, Kolby, I was
2:01:04
Speaker 5: looking something up while you were talking.
2:01:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just saying, like the eugenics that the
2:01:08
Speaker 3: Nazis were supposedly studying on all the Jews. I think
2:01:12
Speaker 3: that was mainly a tink tink and Long Island or
2:01:15
Speaker 3: something like that that came up.
2:01:16
Speaker 5: Right, Well, we know that the US was heavily involved
2:01:20
Speaker 5: with the Nazis, right, And potentially still are. But yeah,
2:01:24
Speaker 5: there's there's euthenics too, and that's that's what I was
2:01:26
Speaker 5: looking up because I remember the term, I just forgot
2:01:28
Speaker 5: what it was. And eugenics is about future generations and
2:01:31
Speaker 5: euthenics is about current the current generation trying to speed
2:01:35
Speaker 5: that process up. So and that's another one of those
2:01:37
Speaker 5: cosmic terms, the cosmism terms. So yeah, it's just, dude,
2:01:42
Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of these words get thrown around,
2:01:44
Speaker 5: and it's more of a distraction because the the COVID
2:01:48
Speaker 5: stuff seemed like it was more euthenics than eugenics. It
2:01:51
Speaker 5: was very current. It's gone now, you know, but it
2:01:54
Speaker 5: was focusing on the present time and and it was
2:01:57
Speaker 5: very very like short term. It wasn't thinking about long
2:02:02
Speaker 5: term stuff with with the with COVID and eugenics.
2:02:06
Speaker 2: But do you think it could have possibly been both,
2:02:11
Speaker 2: because I've read a couple of articles and stuff on it,
2:02:17
Speaker 2: just because I'm into it and also worried about mine
2:02:20
Speaker 2: into it. You're into eugenics, No, that I could be.
2:02:28
Speaker 2: But I've seen like a lot of women who are
2:02:33
Speaker 2: either having a bunch of miscarriages or not able to
2:02:37
Speaker 2: get pregnant at all following getting the job. Well, that's
2:02:44
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It could possibly be both. I mean
2:02:46
Speaker 2: they could be playing the short game and the long game,
2:02:49
Speaker 2: because now women are having a very difficult time conceiving
2:02:53
Speaker 2: and there's like this outrageous number of women getting diagnosed
2:02:57
Speaker 2: with PCOS. I happen to be one of those people.
2:03:01
Speaker 2: But I'm not saying that's like, Oh, I have PCOS,
2:03:04
Speaker 2: so I'm a victim and I'm fucking I didn't get
2:03:07
Speaker 2: the job. So it could be totally unrelated. But I
2:03:09
Speaker 2: just think it's crazy how people aren't putting those two
2:03:13
Speaker 2: things together.
2:03:14
Speaker 3: Like the.
2:03:17
Speaker 4: Whole, the whole, the whole COVID thing was I think multifaceted.
2:03:23
Speaker 4: I don't think it was about one particular thing. I
2:03:25
Speaker 4: think it was pretty well thought out in advance. Look
2:03:30
Speaker 4: to event, you know, to still on YouTube? Did you
2:03:35
Speaker 4: get your little COVID plushy? Remember they gave those out
2:03:39
Speaker 4: for attending the event.
2:03:40
Speaker 5: I've seen them. I've seen him on merch from the
2:03:42
Speaker 5: COVID era. I want to have some of that just
2:03:45
Speaker 5: for when I'm old and I can look back. There
2:03:47
Speaker 5: was Anthony Fauci, pillows, there was wild stuff.
2:03:50
Speaker 3: The Saint Fauci bubblehead.
2:03:53
Speaker 5: Oh my god, just merch.
2:03:55
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it was multifaceted. There there was definitely
2:03:57
Speaker 4: some population control aspects to it, with with the infertility
2:04:01
Speaker 4: and and and and then just the just the death.
2:04:04
Speaker 4: You know that there there was there was definitely some
2:04:07
Speaker 4: experimentation last back to it with like the five G
2:04:11
Speaker 4: technology and the nanotechnology. I think there there was some
2:04:15
Speaker 4: you know, geopolitic aspects to it. How how it affected
2:04:19
Speaker 4: current events that were going on at the time worldwide,
2:04:22
Speaker 4: you know, I think you know it, let's let's never
2:04:25
Speaker 4: forget that this this event had full and you know,
2:04:31
Speaker 4: here here's the I don't know if if you can
2:04:35
Speaker 4: see this, but but probably not.
2:04:37
Speaker 5: That was Dutch government official amidst COVID pandemic was military
2:04:42
Speaker 5: operation ministry.
2:04:45
Speaker 4: They were taking all of their cues from NATO. So NATO,
2:04:51
Speaker 4: I don't know, you say all roads lead to Rome,
2:04:53
Speaker 4: you I think you could say a lot of roads
2:04:55
Speaker 4: lead to NATO as well. So so it was a NATO.
2:04:57
Speaker 4: COVID was a NATO operation admitted by the Dutch government,
2:05:04
Speaker 4: all but admitted to by the US government in that
2:05:08
Speaker 4: five and twenty page thing that just came out last week.
2:05:15
Speaker 4: I don't think it was just about one thing. I
2:05:17
Speaker 4: think they got a lot out of it. It's like,
2:05:18
Speaker 4: you know, it's the gift that will keep on giving,
2:05:20
Speaker 4: just like nine to eleven was the gift that keeps
2:05:22
Speaker 4: on given.
2:05:23
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I say biowarfare is really where it's at.
2:05:25
Speaker 2: If we were playing the Illuminati card game, I'm going
2:05:29
Speaker 2: bio warfare on all y'all asses every time. I'll win
2:05:33
Speaker 2: fucking every game with biowarfare.
2:05:36
Speaker 5: How do you not play that game? Though? Do we
2:05:39
Speaker 5: know how to play that game?
2:05:40
Speaker 3: I had my mom got it for me for Christmas
2:05:42
Speaker 3: after I did an episode on predictive Programming. That game.
2:05:47
Speaker 5: I have it.
2:05:47
Speaker 3: I've never played it. It seems really stupid.
2:05:50
Speaker 5: It's an expensive game. Man, that's a great gift.
2:05:52
Speaker 3: It's based on the Illuminatus trilogy Robert Anton Wilson, which
2:05:56
Speaker 3: is one of the coolest books ever written. I don't
2:05:59
Speaker 3: know what he was but he was trying to say,
2:06:01
Speaker 3: but it's like, it's a fucking murder mystery with the Illuminati,
2:06:05
Speaker 3: and it's got telepathic dolphins and cia.
2:06:09
Speaker 5: Oh that's awesome.
2:06:10
Speaker 3: It came out in the seventies, but aren't you supposed to.
2:06:12
Speaker 2: Like the point to win is like whatever your strategy is,
2:06:16
Speaker 2: outstrategizes the other person.
2:06:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's a tabletop. It's like Monopoly
2:06:21
Speaker 3: with like secret societies.
2:06:23
Speaker 2: So my strategy is by a warfare on all y'all asses.
2:06:26
Speaker 5: We should get together sometime and play the game on
2:06:29
Speaker 5: here and you can just like have the hands. That'd
2:06:31
Speaker 5: be fair play.
2:06:33
Speaker 2: I played a card game with Ryan. Oh god, was
2:06:36
Speaker 2: it last year for New Year's Oh?
2:06:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like a trivia thing though, wasn't it?
2:06:41
Speaker 5: Or no?
2:06:41
Speaker 2: Oh yeah it was. I think it was a trivia thing, but.
2:06:43
Speaker 5: It was almost like Jeopardy. It was kind of like Jeopardy. Yeah,
2:06:48
Speaker 5: and John, you mentioned five G man, do you think
2:06:51
Speaker 5: five g's real? I'm convinced it's fake.
2:06:54
Speaker 4: I don't know if five G in particular is real
2:06:58
Speaker 4: or fake. But I am a huge believer in frequencies
2:07:02
Speaker 4: and you know, and the resulting vibration. I do know
2:07:06
Speaker 4: that frequencies cause vibration, and through frequencies, physical matter can
2:07:12
Speaker 4: be manipulated. And so I have done some real life
2:07:21
Speaker 4: experimentation just because of my wife's situation. We I take
2:07:27
Speaker 4: the topic of radiation very seriously. So any anything that
2:07:31
Speaker 4: has an electrical current running through it radiates. Okay, So
2:07:37
Speaker 4: so so we are constantly you know, like right right now,
2:07:40
Speaker 4: I've I'm we're all baking in radiation. There's wires in
2:07:44
Speaker 4: our walls, ceiling floor, I mean, we're just baking in radiation. Now.
2:07:49
Speaker 4: Not all radiation is quote unquote deadly, but all radiation
2:07:53
Speaker 4: there's always a cause and effect. And you know, you
2:07:57
Speaker 4: can you know, I don't know if you've ever seen
2:08:00
Speaker 4: you know, the the Chiladney plates, you know, those the
2:08:03
Speaker 4: vibrating plates where they it's just a it's like a
2:08:06
Speaker 4: speaker and it's got a metal plate on it, and
2:08:08
Speaker 4: they'll put some sort of sell salt or something, and
2:08:11
Speaker 4: then the frequencies arrange the salt in geometric patterns. So
2:08:15
Speaker 4: there's proof positive that that frequencies can manipulate physical matter.
2:08:19
Speaker 4: So uh whatever, call it five G for what what,
2:08:24
Speaker 4: whatever name they want to put on it, you can
2:08:29
Speaker 4: you can manipulate life with through frequencies. And and we've
2:08:34
Speaker 4: got I mean, you never ever ever see birds hanging
2:08:38
Speaker 4: out on those cell towers because they because they know better,
2:08:43
Speaker 4: you know, they don't want to go fucking near that.
2:08:45
Speaker 4: You and if you look around, like I live in
2:08:48
Speaker 4: a fairly rural area, and so I can, I can
2:08:50
Speaker 4: go up to the areas where the cell towers are.
2:08:53
Speaker 4: You don't even the actual plant life changes around the
2:08:57
Speaker 4: base of those things too, you know, you don't. You
2:08:59
Speaker 4: don't see the same You step back a couple more
2:09:02
Speaker 4: hundred feet and you see it starts to grow again,
2:09:05
Speaker 4: like stuff starts to grow. So whatever frequencies are coming
2:09:10
Speaker 4: off of those things, they are they're anti biotic. They're
2:09:15
Speaker 4: you know, biotic means life, and whatever the frequencies are,
2:09:18
Speaker 4: they're anti their anti life.
2:09:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I should have been more clear, like
2:09:23
Speaker 5: five G relating to phones, you know, because that's the
2:09:26
Speaker 5: that's the part that I think is completely fake. But
2:09:28
Speaker 5: I agree that there could be some very harmful frequency
2:09:31
Speaker 5: coming from these things because I've seen, uh, you know
2:09:34
Speaker 5: what you're what you're talking about there where the biology
2:09:36
Speaker 5: around these things is different.
2:09:38
Speaker 3: You know, than to put a bunch of these fucking
2:09:42
Speaker 3: whatever they're for and just say, yeah, that's for your phones, right,
2:09:44
Speaker 3: because then accept that yeah, faster internet, yeah exactly.
2:09:51
Speaker 4: I I yeah, I honestly, I'm kind of with you
2:09:55
Speaker 4: on I wouldn't just I wouldn't just say that the
2:09:59
Speaker 4: topic of five G is is fake. I think the
2:10:04
Speaker 4: whole telecommunication narrative is fake all the way up to
2:10:08
Speaker 4: the topic of satellites. I don't. I just I just
2:10:13
Speaker 4: I don't see it. I mean, I think what what
2:10:16
Speaker 4: people think of as satellites is actually the the Google
2:10:19
Speaker 4: Loon program. You know, where those high altitude you know,
2:10:23
Speaker 4: atmosphere balloons that are hanging those what they're called. I mean,
2:10:27
Speaker 4: there's tons of footage of those things being launched. Yeah, yeah,
2:10:33
Speaker 4: satelloons exactly. And and I think that if how about
2:10:43
Speaker 4: how about this, I'd like to go back. I'd like
2:10:46
Speaker 4: to go why don't they incorporate the technology that they
2:10:50
Speaker 4: used for the moon landing, because man, they had perfect community.
2:10:54
Speaker 4: They never lost signal ever, ever, never lost signal. Well, shit,
2:11:00
Speaker 4: I lose signal talking to somebody five miles away. So
2:11:04
Speaker 4: let's let's go back to whatever that was, which didn't exist,
2:11:07
Speaker 4: because that whole narrative didn't exist. But I'm just being
2:11:10
Speaker 4: I'm just being an asshole with that. But but now
2:11:12
Speaker 4: I think the hotelecommunications and satellites and five G and
2:11:17
Speaker 4: all of that stuff is just another example of it's
2:11:19
Speaker 4: not what they say it is.
2:11:21
Speaker 2: Well, isn't that kind of like multi layered though, because
2:11:24
Speaker 2: you'd first have to believe space is real. Then you'd
2:11:28
Speaker 2: have to believe that it's not a fucking vacuum in
2:11:31
Speaker 2: that when you got into it, you didn't just like
2:11:33
Speaker 2: crash like a tin can once you got up there.
2:11:36
Speaker 2: Then you have to believe, like somebody could actually pass
2:11:39
Speaker 2: through the Van Allen Belts and not get roasted in
2:11:41
Speaker 2: their fucking seat. And like there's so many layers to that.
2:11:44
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck I am these days.
2:11:47
Speaker 2: Flatter round or is a snow globe?
2:11:50
Speaker 3: I don't know.
2:11:51
Speaker 2: But if I was gonna choose a camp, I would
2:11:55
Speaker 2: probably pick a flat plane with like some type of dome,
2:12:00
Speaker 2: whether it's not. It doesn't have to be a solid dome.
2:12:03
Speaker 2: But even like like I said before, like the Van
2:12:05
Speaker 2: Allen Belts that they've said exists and you can't pass
2:12:08
Speaker 2: through them and ship like that, I don't know where
2:12:11
Speaker 2: you are on it. But the whole idea of satellites
2:12:14
Speaker 2: and you know, oh yeah, that's that's I mean so retarded.
2:12:18
Speaker 4: If space was real, the Vatican would not have had
2:12:21
Speaker 4: to have commissioned Copernicus to come up with that whole
2:12:23
Speaker 4: thing in the first place, because there because there wasn't
2:12:27
Speaker 4: anything until they paid him to craft that narrative. But
2:12:31
Speaker 4: and then utting flash forward to modern day, the Vatican
2:12:34
Speaker 4: controls all of the you know, observatories you know, worldwide,
2:12:38
Speaker 4: So it's.
2:12:40
Speaker 5: They have one here, John, they have an observatory at
2:12:43
Speaker 5: the u of A, which is the big university here
2:12:45
Speaker 5: in Tucson. And the it's not at the u of A,
2:12:48
Speaker 5: but the U of A is a co owner with them. Yeah,
2:12:52
Speaker 5: the Lucifer telescope.
2:12:53
Speaker 4: I've been there.
2:12:54
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's uh.
2:12:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I I I grew up in Tempe, so
2:13:00
Speaker 4: I spent a ton of time in Tucson.
2:13:02
Speaker 5: That's right. I remember you said that last time we talked. Yeah, dude,
2:13:04
Speaker 5: I mean, just the idea of the Vatican owning a
2:13:07
Speaker 5: telescope and then choosing to name it Lucifer should tell
2:13:10
Speaker 5: you everything that you need to know.
2:13:11
Speaker 4: That's just an acronym, Ryan, It's just an acronym, right
2:13:17
Speaker 4: large or whatever whether they said it was. But but
2:13:20
Speaker 4: but no, no, they you know again, it's it's it's
2:13:24
Speaker 4: that whole they've created a character. Space is a character,
2:13:29
Speaker 4: and and you gotta. It's to their advantage to get
2:13:32
Speaker 4: you invested in that in that character.
2:13:35
Speaker 2: And John, I got one for you. I just fucke
2:13:39
Speaker 2: thought of it. And you're gonna love this ship too.
2:13:42
Speaker 2: I did a whole episode on John Denver, and it's
2:13:45
Speaker 2: crazy because now we can tie the Laurel Canyon and
2:13:48
Speaker 2: NASA and Fake Face all together because he.
2:13:52
Speaker 4: Was Challenger and Tranny too, because uh I think I
2:13:57
Speaker 4: think I think it was it was Joan Denver.
2:14:03
Speaker 2: My gosh, that's crazy.
2:14:06
Speaker 4: Do me a favorite, Like, as soon as we're done here,
2:14:08
Speaker 4: pull up some because because we're talking about jawlines and stuff,
2:14:11
Speaker 4: pull up some pictures of him and do like, look
2:14:13
Speaker 4: at look at John Denver now through those same lives,
2:14:18
Speaker 4: through the same eyes, because yeah, I think, uh I
2:14:23
Speaker 4: think Joan Denver had a a JJ Oh my god.
2:14:27
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I fucking love him. Whether he's a.
2:14:29
Speaker 4: Trained fantastic music, no, no, no.
2:14:31
Speaker 2: Doubt fantastic music.
2:14:33
Speaker 4: What do you think.
2:14:36
Speaker 2: He was supposed to be on the fucking Challenger that
2:14:39
Speaker 2: exploded and then he wrote that fucking song like they
2:14:42
Speaker 2: were flying for me and like all this weird ship.
2:14:45
Speaker 2: Then he actually did die in a fucking airplane accident.
2:14:48
Speaker 2: Supposedly he thinks he Colby thinks he could still be alive.
2:14:53
Speaker 3: Well, he thinks.
2:14:56
Speaker 2: He was friends with presidents. He was part of the
2:14:59
Speaker 2: board for NASA. He like, had all these weird space connections.
2:15:05
Speaker 4: Yeah. She She and Petty have an island in Fiji
2:15:09
Speaker 4: right now that occasionally Bowie and Prince come over. That'll
2:15:13
Speaker 4: kind of jam. And yeah, I think I think they're
2:15:16
Speaker 4: opening for Oasis in twenty twenty five. Tom.
2:15:19
Speaker 5: Petty's not a tranny, is he. No, no, no, no, no, no, please, Okay,
2:15:26
Speaker 5: don't tell me that, because I mean, I'm still going
2:15:27
Speaker 5: to listen to its music. But I love that.
2:15:30
Speaker 4: I told you, dude. Yeah, I'm a fucking saint, Petty Man,
2:15:33
Speaker 4: I love it. I love that.
2:15:36
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude. We were outside, we had a campfire the
2:15:38
Speaker 5: other night in the front yard, and I took some
2:15:41
Speaker 5: shrooms and we were just I just put it on
2:15:43
Speaker 5: Apple Music and clicked the first song and you can
2:15:46
Speaker 5: just listen through, just listen through it, and every one
2:15:49
Speaker 5: of those damn songs.
2:15:50
Speaker 4: Is Have you seen Have you seen the four hour
2:15:54
Speaker 4: documentary Noll? Dude, it's it's first of all, if you're
2:15:58
Speaker 4: a documentary I'm a documentary geek, which is why I
2:16:01
Speaker 4: love the fact that you you turned me on to
2:16:03
Speaker 4: realdocumentaries dot com. But if yeah, yeah, go and watch
2:16:08
Speaker 4: the time. It's a it's a it's an investment. It's
2:16:10
Speaker 4: it's over four hours long, but it is man it.
2:16:14
Speaker 4: I loved not just Petty, but every one of the heartbreakers,
2:16:18
Speaker 4: each one. I mean, Mike Campbell is a guitar hero
2:16:22
Speaker 4: of mine and like, you will love them times ten
2:16:26
Speaker 4: after this documentary, like he was after watching I used
2:16:32
Speaker 4: I used to think that Petty pieced out, Uh just
2:16:36
Speaker 4: just retired and pieced out. But after watching that document
2:16:40
Speaker 4: I've watched it three or four times. He was he
2:16:43
Speaker 4: he was a tough motherfucker. He was not someone who
2:16:46
Speaker 4: was told what to do. And uh and I think
2:16:49
Speaker 4: I think I think they they they may have taken
2:16:51
Speaker 4: care of him for not playing.
2:16:54
Speaker 5: I love what he told Stevin Nix and she wanted
2:16:55
Speaker 5: to be part of the heartbreaks, and he's like, there's
2:16:57
Speaker 5: no living in the heartbreak.
2:16:58
Speaker 4: There was a heartbreaker.
2:17:00
Speaker 5: That's awesome. It's just that he's awesome. But yeah, I'll
2:17:04
Speaker 5: have to I'll have to find it. You happen to
2:17:06
Speaker 5: know the name off the top of your head.
2:17:08
Speaker 4: Here, I'll find it for you, because yeah.
2:17:10
Speaker 5: I'll watch that ship. I'll start it tonight.
2:17:14
Speaker 3: Right in four hours, you could watch eight self Park episodes.
2:17:19
Speaker 5: I know, that's the problem.
2:17:21
Speaker 3: Got to quantify it there. I think Tom Petty's worth
2:17:23
Speaker 3: sacrificing some Self Park hours.
2:17:25
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, I don't watch much TV, but when I do,
2:17:27
Speaker 5: it's usually something stupid like South Park or Sons of Anarchy. Lately,
2:17:31
Speaker 5: great show running Down a Dream, Running down a Dream.
2:17:34
Speaker 5: It's called that kind of hold that thought, running down
2:17:37
Speaker 5: a dream. But yeah, I dude, this is These are
2:17:42
Speaker 5: always fun episodes.
2:17:43
Speaker 4: Man. Fantastic fantastic book.
2:17:46
Speaker 5: Oh nice, Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I'm a nerd with
2:17:51
Speaker 5: like autographs and stuff. I need to try and find
2:17:53
Speaker 5: some autographs of that, dude. I'm sure that they're expensive,
2:17:55
Speaker 5: but I got all kinds of autographs of random things. Man.
2:18:00
Speaker 4: Mike Campbell just came through Nashville not that long ago
2:18:04
Speaker 4: with his band, and I couldn't get there. Playing a
2:18:08
Speaker 4: pretty small place and it was one of those places where, like,
2:18:11
Speaker 4: you know, you pretty much guaranteed you're gonna get to
2:18:13
Speaker 4: say hi, you know, And I just I actually just
2:18:17
Speaker 4: saw in that same place I a week or so ago.
2:18:19
Speaker 4: I don't know if any of y'all are in Excess fans,
2:18:23
Speaker 4: but a huge in excess fan. And uh Andrew Ferris,
2:18:27
Speaker 4: you know the they're the three Ferris brothers that pretty
2:18:31
Speaker 4: much did all the music, and Michael Hutchins wrote wrote
2:18:34
Speaker 4: the words, but Andrew Ferris, of those three brothers, he
2:18:37
Speaker 4: wrote ninety percent of in Excess songs. And he did
2:18:40
Speaker 4: a just real quiet little gig here in Nashville about
2:18:45
Speaker 4: a week and a half ago, and there, I bet
2:18:47
Speaker 4: you there was seventy five people there. And uh, and
2:18:52
Speaker 4: I right before he started, I went and went and
2:18:55
Speaker 4: used the bathroom. And the bathroom was way far at
2:18:58
Speaker 4: the other end of the place, and it was empty anyways.
2:19:00
Speaker 4: And so I'm in there by by myself and washing
2:19:03
Speaker 4: my hands, and out of the stall comes Andrew. It's
2:19:06
Speaker 4: just me and him in the in this big, cavernous,
2:19:09
Speaker 4: lonely bathroom hat and I kind of I kind of
2:19:11
Speaker 4: had a little like starstruck moment. I was, I, dude,
2:19:15
Speaker 4: this is really uncomfortable and I'm not gonna want to
2:19:17
Speaker 4: shake I know you don't shake it. But I'm blessed
2:19:22
Speaker 4: to be here. And it's just an honor to to
2:19:24
Speaker 4: to get to see you. And he was like, all right, man,
2:19:26
Speaker 4: He's like, I'll give you a left handed handshake and
2:19:28
Speaker 4: in his great Australian accent and fantastic.
2:19:33
Speaker 2: So you get to see like the greats just walking
2:19:36
Speaker 2: around sometimes in Nashville because I love country music, so
2:19:41
Speaker 2: just curious.
2:19:42
Speaker 4: The cool thing about Nashville is good, bad or otherwise.
2:19:48
Speaker 4: There are so many like just legendary people. It's it's
2:19:55
Speaker 4: not like it's not a big deal to see someone
2:20:01
Speaker 4: now if you are new to the area, it is.
2:20:04
Speaker 4: But for the people that live have lived here a while,
2:20:06
Speaker 4: it's not. And and I used to do you remember
2:20:08
Speaker 4: Tower Records that the store Tower Records, big huge record
2:20:12
Speaker 4: store chain. Anyways, I I I used to. I used
2:20:16
Speaker 4: to manage one back in the day here in Nashville.
2:20:20
Speaker 4: And Garth Brooks used to come in on the regular.
2:20:23
Speaker 2: And oh, he's from Oklahoma that my sister lives in
2:20:27
Speaker 2: his city they have everywhere.
2:20:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's he's also got a residence up up
2:20:32
Speaker 4: in Hendersonville here north of Nashville. And but yeah, but
2:20:36
Speaker 4: his main main residence is he's he's Oklahoma based, but
2:20:40
Speaker 4: he's in you know, he's in Nashville quite a bit, and.
2:20:43
Speaker 2: There's a theory that he's like a fucking serial killer
2:20:46
Speaker 2: or something.
2:20:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard that. I yeah, I don't know about that.
2:20:51
Speaker 3: Probably the real smile.
2:20:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's interesting he got pegged on that. Yet
2:20:56
Speaker 4: Dolly Parton can fund the Magage abs and she gets away,
2:21:00
Speaker 4: got free.
2:21:01
Speaker 3: That's a stop serial killing.
2:21:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's corporately.
2:21:07
Speaker 3: You used to used to you told me on the
2:21:10
Speaker 3: last time the three of us got together. You talked
2:21:13
Speaker 3: about running into Johnny Cash there near the end of
2:21:16
Speaker 3: his life at that record store.
2:21:17
Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh yeah, he coupled and in fact we okay,
2:21:22
Speaker 4: Johnny Cash's daughter, Roseanne Roseanne Cash, she was married to
2:21:26
Speaker 4: Rodney Crowell, another country music so power country music power
2:21:30
Speaker 4: couple of the seventies, and they had three daughters. And
2:21:32
Speaker 4: one of their daughters, so that would be Johnny's granddaughter,
2:21:37
Speaker 4: had some had some problems earlier in life with some
2:21:41
Speaker 4: substance abuse and all, and was getting her life back together.
2:21:44
Speaker 4: And Johnny asked us at the store if we could
2:21:47
Speaker 4: put her to, you know, give give her a because
2:21:49
Speaker 4: because he he'd come in quite a bit and I
2:21:51
Speaker 4: think he liked the vibe there, and he certainly knew
2:21:54
Speaker 4: the people and try I think semi trusted the people.
2:21:57
Speaker 4: And he wanted his he wanted his granddaughter to kind
2:21:59
Speaker 4: of get back on her feet, and so he asked
2:22:01
Speaker 4: if we could hire her. And so we, uh we
2:22:04
Speaker 4: we hired her and and and put her to work,
2:22:06
Speaker 4: and she and I ended up writing some writing some
2:22:08
Speaker 4: music together, and and uh spending some time out you know,
2:22:12
Speaker 4: at what John and you know, at the time, John
2:22:14
Speaker 4: and June were both still alive and and and and
2:22:16
Speaker 4: went out there to their place and and uh, now,
2:22:20
Speaker 4: the Cash family is an interesting that there's a lot
2:22:23
Speaker 4: been a lot of turmoil in that family. But Johnny,
2:22:26
Speaker 4: Johnny was always just a just a real kind of
2:22:30
Speaker 4: a grandfather. He type just just a sweet, towering grandfather.
2:22:35
Speaker 3: Of a guy.
2:22:36
Speaker 2: You know, Well, do you think, because like we obviously
2:22:39
Speaker 2: talk about Laurel Canyon, but I'm sure there's a Laurel
2:22:41
Speaker 2: Canyon of the country music scene with Johnny Cash and
2:22:44
Speaker 2: like Jerry Lee Lewis and all them. Oh, oh my god,
2:22:48
Speaker 2: a Laurel Canyon of like nineties country too, if I'm
2:22:51
Speaker 2: just being honest, and I love nineties country, but I'm
2:22:55
Speaker 2: sure some of the assholes were up to fucking no good,
2:22:57
Speaker 2: but nobody really ever talks about it because K Tree
2:23:00
Speaker 2: is supposed to be like the good Christian clean Yeah,
2:23:04
Speaker 2: but I'm sure it's just as convoluted as Laurel Canyon
2:23:07
Speaker 2: if you really dug into it.
2:23:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, there's there's I think I think
2:23:12
Speaker 4: that any any mainstream entertainment brand or cast of characters
2:23:20
Speaker 4: has got Sheananigan's attached to it because.
2:23:24
Speaker 2: Wasn't Elvis didn't he come out of Memphis?
2:23:27
Speaker 4: Yeah?
2:23:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think a lot of it comes from
2:23:31
Speaker 5: the rock scene more and it's more high profile because
2:23:33
Speaker 5: that's the counterculture, Like rock and roll is supposed to
2:23:36
Speaker 5: be counterculture, right, and I don't think country music is
2:23:38
Speaker 5: supposed to be so much, at least back then, right
2:23:41
Speaker 5: like rock was getting a little like it started off
2:23:45
Speaker 5: a little bit weird, right like we even going back
2:23:46
Speaker 5: to the Beatles, like everyone was like, oh no, you
2:23:49
Speaker 5: shouldn't be listening to this stuff. It was like completely
2:23:52
Speaker 5: different music that you're supposed to be listening to.
2:23:54
Speaker 4: Well now, but you know, now the country artists of
2:23:58
Speaker 4: today are super counter culture, like like Beyonce and post Malone.
2:24:04
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you had me for a second there, yea
2:24:07
Speaker 5: even like jelly roll, right, like jelly roll, this dude
2:24:12
Speaker 5: jelly like meant to be counterculture, and I don't think
2:24:15
Speaker 5: he really is. You know, I love you.
2:24:18
Speaker 4: He's jelly rolls from from here.
2:24:19
Speaker 5: In fact, a.
2:24:22
Speaker 4: Guy that a guy that lives not too far from
2:24:25
Speaker 4: my little town. He was actually the guy that that
2:24:27
Speaker 4: found jelly roll and kind of got him on his
2:24:30
Speaker 4: got him on his way. But no, he's a there.
2:24:33
Speaker 4: There is a good example of someone who I can
2:24:38
Speaker 4: tell you, at least at this point, that's a that
2:24:41
Speaker 4: was real person.
2:24:43
Speaker 5: No, I think, yeah, I think he is. But yeah,
2:24:45
Speaker 5: it's just it's interesting that that's kind of what the
2:24:47
Speaker 5: counterculture is right now, like Trump movement.
2:24:51
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I don't Scott free, even though
2:24:55
Speaker 2: a lot of people are on like the we love
2:24:58
Speaker 2: jelly roll thing right now.
2:25:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's the flavor of the you're supposed to
2:25:05
Speaker 4: like it, like it, you know, it's one of the
2:25:06
Speaker 4: things that's you know you that was very very the
2:25:11
Speaker 4: powers behind that brand gonna make that a major brand.
2:25:16
Speaker 4: That that was the deal that he signed on for.
2:25:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I think that dude is like a it's
2:25:22
Speaker 5: like a practicing magician of some kind, like he's he's
2:25:26
Speaker 5: very familiar with like energies. And because I watched his
2:25:29
Speaker 5: documentary it was on Hulu, it was a big, major thing.
2:25:33
Speaker 5: But like I said, I don't get emotional about much
2:25:35
Speaker 5: at all. And I almost cried a couple of times
2:25:37
Speaker 5: watching this dude talk to people, just because he's very
2:25:39
Speaker 5: good at, like, you know, medilating emotion. Can you can
2:25:45
Speaker 5: hear one of his songs, and me and my my
2:25:47
Speaker 5: dad loves him. So we went and saw him and uh,
2:25:50
Speaker 5: someone else, I forget who it was. They just toured
2:25:52
Speaker 5: not too long ago. And yeah, man, he's he's got
2:25:55
Speaker 5: a powerful voice. I mean. But yeah, when that dude
2:25:57
Speaker 5: talks to people, and like you sit there and you
2:25:59
Speaker 5: see him crying, it makes you want to join him
2:26:01
Speaker 5: and just cry with him for no reason. And it's
2:26:03
Speaker 5: fucking weird.
2:26:03
Speaker 4: Man. The ability the ability to vessel is a good word, uh,
2:26:11
Speaker 4: but the ability to connect with people, that's a special ability.
2:26:15
Speaker 4: And and people that have it and want to get
2:26:18
Speaker 4: into public work entertainment in particular, the ones that are
2:26:22
Speaker 4: really really good at it, they're the ones that the
2:26:25
Speaker 4: the the powers that shouldn't be are going to come
2:26:28
Speaker 4: come a call in at some point and there and
2:26:30
Speaker 4: then and they're gonna They're gonna want to have a talk,
2:26:33
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna want to please no, not ice cubean
2:26:38
Speaker 4: Tom Petty. Let's let's let's say you.
2:26:41
Speaker 3: I thought it was very poetic and ironic that we
2:26:44
Speaker 3: all kind of agreed that, like morrisy is all we
2:26:47
Speaker 3: got now.
2:26:48
Speaker 4: I just saw Morcy I just saw about a month ago.
2:26:52
Speaker 3: So good.
2:26:53
Speaker 4: Oh, it's like a I was like a fourteen year
2:26:54
Speaker 4: old girl at that show. I was so happy to
2:26:57
Speaker 4: be there. He's he's so he's so awesome, man, what what?
2:27:00
Speaker 2: What?
2:27:01
Speaker 4: What an awesome sassy old queen? He is.
2:27:05
Speaker 5: Not even gonna lie. I don't even know who that is?
2:27:07
Speaker 3: Who is you know the Smiths saying like, is it
2:27:10
Speaker 3: called how Soon? Is now their big hit?
2:27:13
Speaker 4: They've had so many? Yeah, queen is dead.
2:27:16
Speaker 5: I mean probably if I heard it man, to be honest,
2:27:18
Speaker 5: but yeah, I do not know who that is the Smiths.
2:27:22
Speaker 3: But he's got quite a huge solo career as well.
2:27:24
Speaker 4: But way back in the early eighties, there was this
2:27:27
Speaker 4: band called and they were pretty big. We all all
2:27:31
Speaker 4: kids them back then.
2:27:33
Speaker 3: I love Johnny mar too, like that fucking guitar. I
2:27:36
Speaker 3: mean he joined Marinas Mouse and changed their sound.
2:27:39
Speaker 4: But yeah, about about a year and a half ago,
2:27:41
Speaker 4: my wife and I went and saw The Killers. And
2:27:44
Speaker 4: I do not go in and seeing arena shows, but
2:27:46
Speaker 4: we saw The Killers and Johnny Marr opened up for
2:27:49
Speaker 4: Oh Nice, and half of the set was Smith's songs,
2:27:53
Speaker 4: and it was I have to admit, as an old dude,
2:27:55
Speaker 4: it was pretty awesome listening to an arena full of
2:27:58
Speaker 4: people sing sing those songs, you know, and there's nobody
2:28:01
Speaker 4: in the crowd that was under the age of forty.
2:28:04
Speaker 4: You know.
2:28:06
Speaker 5: It's goods. Concerts are probably some of the best stuff.
2:28:11
Speaker 3: Well, guys, we're creeping up past two and a half hours.
2:28:16
Speaker 3: I'll go around the house here. Any any thought, closing
2:28:20
Speaker 3: thoughts or stuff you wanted to interject earlier that you
2:28:23
Speaker 3: did weren't able to. I'll start with ladies first. I'll
2:28:25
Speaker 3: start with Julia, then we'll go Ryan, and then we'll
2:28:28
Speaker 3: close out with John.
2:28:30
Speaker 2: I don't really have anything else about some of the
2:28:33
Speaker 2: topics we were talking about, but I do want John
2:28:36
Speaker 2: to come on my show because I feel like we
2:28:38
Speaker 2: could really get down on some healthcare stuff. And yeah,
2:28:44
Speaker 2: I think we could, we could talk more in depth
2:28:47
Speaker 2: in another episode, just on like health stuff, because it
2:28:50
Speaker 2: really interests me. I know it's not everybody's cup of tea,
2:28:54
Speaker 2: but I have been looking into a lot of stuff myself,
2:28:58
Speaker 2: especially like I said, with my mom having cancer, and
2:29:01
Speaker 2: I have a ton of theories that I would love
2:29:04
Speaker 2: to run past you on some of that.
2:29:05
Speaker 4: So you'd say, say, other word, I'm a little shy
2:29:09
Speaker 4: and it's hard to get me to talk but once.
2:29:13
Speaker 3: But yeah, I know, I I have.
2:29:16
Speaker 2: Really enjoyed our conversation today. I think it was a
2:29:19
Speaker 2: great time.
2:29:22
Speaker 3: Ryan.
2:29:22
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, conversation. I agree with everything that Julia said
2:29:27
Speaker 5: as far as the conversation being great. It's always nice
2:29:29
Speaker 5: to connect with you Colby and then John, you know,
2:29:32
Speaker 5: only talking about once a year, but you know, two
2:29:34
Speaker 5: years in a row, and it's been awesome both times.
2:29:37
Speaker 3: It's it's make it more like six months next time. Yeah,
2:29:40
Speaker 3: I mean in the summer, right, Yeah.
2:29:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very fun And I learned a lot talking
2:29:51
Speaker 5: to both of you guys, and then obviously Julia too
2:29:53
Speaker 5: learned a lot talking with you. And yeah, I'm not
2:29:56
Speaker 5: doing as much content these days, but we do do
2:29:58
Speaker 5: the weekly news show me and my friend Ghosts from
2:30:00
Speaker 5: my Third Day podcast. People sending clips and we share
2:30:04
Speaker 5: those and talk about them. Usually talk about some food
2:30:07
Speaker 5: and some other bullshit, and it's just kind of a
2:30:08
Speaker 5: chill little chat that we have, you know, talking about
2:30:12
Speaker 5: snoos and other shows. It's Conspiracy Underground News Team, you know,
2:30:17
Speaker 5: but you can.
2:30:19
Speaker 4: You know.
2:30:20
Speaker 5: The acronym is Kunt Spirity Underground News Team. It's the
2:30:24
Speaker 5: show called Cunt. Everyone loves it. But yeah, I'm looking
2:30:27
Speaker 5: at it, getting more into more episodes. I'm actually working
2:30:29
Speaker 5: on a Disturbing Toys episode. You know that there's a
2:30:33
Speaker 5: company called Lissi that made a nine to eleven pez
2:30:37
Speaker 5: dispenser type thing. Oh my god, it's two towers and
2:30:41
Speaker 5: a plane. There's there's all kinds of fucked up toys
2:30:44
Speaker 5: that are out there, and so I'm getting into that,
2:30:47
Speaker 5: trying to get back into doing like the solo content
2:30:49
Speaker 5: more and more. So you find me a Dangerous World podcast.
2:30:55
Speaker 3: Dangerous were so modest with your plugs, dude.
2:30:58
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I don't. I don't do as much these days, man,
2:31:01
Speaker 5: I've really been I used to do like four or
2:31:03
Speaker 5: five episodes a week, and now I'm just doing the
2:31:04
Speaker 5: one so I'm trying to get back more into it
2:31:06
Speaker 5: because you know, the ad revenue has gone down and
2:31:08
Speaker 5: all that stuff. So I'm trying to, you know, break
2:31:10
Speaker 5: back in more. So we'll get there.
2:31:12
Speaker 2: You can hit me up anytime, Ryan, Cool, Yeah, I will.
2:31:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's always fun. So yeah, thank you all the time.
2:31:20
Speaker 3: Job Now she's a podcast about it.
2:31:23
Speaker 5: Yep, that's dope. That is fun.
2:31:27
Speaker 4: Yeah.
2:31:27
Speaker 5: No, I will definitely hit Chipson, Julia.
2:31:31
Speaker 3: All right, John, Last, but certainly not least wrap it
2:31:34
Speaker 3: up in a pretty little bow and plug anything you
2:31:37
Speaker 3: got going these days.
2:31:38
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not here to plug anything in particular. I
2:31:42
Speaker 4: just always appreciate the conversation and I think, you know,
2:31:44
Speaker 4: like I think it is. I would I would ask
2:31:48
Speaker 4: the listeners and the viewers, those that have hung in
2:31:51
Speaker 4: this far, first of all, thank you. Secondly, a lot
2:31:55
Speaker 4: of times when you hear people talking about the topics
2:31:59
Speaker 4: like we talked about on this episode, some of this
2:32:03
Speaker 4: stuff is so we taught. It might sound matter of fact,
2:32:09
Speaker 4: but I want more people. I want I want to
2:32:15
Speaker 4: get I'd like to get rid of the word conspiracy,
2:32:18
Speaker 4: because the word conspiracy in itself is a conspiracy. Yeah,
2:32:22
Speaker 4: I mean that wasn't even really used until the JFK
2:32:26
Speaker 4: is a prouder film thing. But anyways, it's it's it's showbiz.
2:32:31
Speaker 4: It's it's showbiz. And these are actors and they're being
2:32:36
Speaker 4: paid to do a job, and they're doing that job.
2:32:39
Speaker 4: And be more open to the fact that actors exist
2:32:48
Speaker 4: and these narratives are storylines, and they are being paid
2:32:53
Speaker 4: to do what they're told. And you might think that
2:32:57
Speaker 4: that's conspiratorial, but being an actor is a trade that's
2:33:01
Speaker 4: been around for a long time and it's not going anywhere,
2:33:04
Speaker 4: and there will always be actors, there will always be storylines.
2:33:07
Speaker 4: And as long as people are glued to their screens
2:33:11
Speaker 4: and electronic devices and taking their cues from those screens
2:33:15
Speaker 4: and those electronic devices, that's really what most people's view
2:33:20
Speaker 4: of the world is is what their screens and their
2:33:22
Speaker 4: electronic devices are telling them. And these aren't sovereign devices.
2:33:27
Speaker 4: These devices are are they're made by companies. They know
2:33:30
Speaker 4: exactly what they're doing, they know what they're allowing you
2:33:35
Speaker 4: to see, what they're allowing you to hear, and.
2:33:39
Speaker 5: Just be I don't know.
2:33:41
Speaker 4: Again, I'd like to get rid of the use of
2:33:42
Speaker 4: the word conspiracy.
2:33:43
Speaker 3: And and and and and do you think I should
2:33:46
Speaker 3: change the name of my show?
2:33:48
Speaker 4: No, no, no, because because that's a good use. That's
2:33:50
Speaker 4: a good use of because it pull it pulls, it
2:33:54
Speaker 4: pulls in the right audience. But when we're talking about
2:33:56
Speaker 4: like things like you know, oh, the Taylor Swift that
2:33:59
Speaker 4: was on stage the other night might not be the
2:34:01
Speaker 4: original Taylor Swift, that's not conspiratorial. That's showbiz. That's show buzy.
2:34:08
Speaker 4: And you know, anyone that's run a business and had
2:34:11
Speaker 4: to deal with employees knows that you you've got shifts
2:34:14
Speaker 4: to cover, and you've got positions that need filled, and
2:34:17
Speaker 4: you've got tasks that need to be done. And it's uh,
2:34:21
Speaker 4: it works good when you find willing participants who are
2:34:24
Speaker 4: good at their job and willing to do that job.
2:34:26
Speaker 4: And it's no different in the entertainment industry. And if
2:34:30
Speaker 4: it's coming off of your screens, it's all entertainment.
2:34:34
Speaker 2: Well, Colby is a crisis actor. He plays a great
2:34:38
Speaker 2: rape victim there.
2:34:44
Speaker 4: I don't know that I want to know the backstory
2:34:46
Speaker 4: to that, but he's smiling. Let's just leave it at that.
2:34:50
Speaker 3: I'm curious about the backstory myself.
2:34:53
Speaker 4: Oh it sounds like sounds like you might be.
2:34:57
Speaker 3: MK Ultra sponsored because as he played that, So John,
2:35:01
Speaker 3: you don't want to plug anything. I'm not going to
2:35:03
Speaker 3: force you.
2:35:04
Speaker 4: No, you know, I'll tell you what you want you
2:35:07
Speaker 4: I I if if you can see the screen, you
2:35:10
Speaker 4: know you see the naturally better for you dot com
2:35:13
Speaker 4: U r L. That is a now that is pure
2:35:16
Speaker 4: health and wellness knowledge share right there. So we're not
2:35:20
Speaker 4: talking about the shape of the earth or Taylor Swift
2:35:24
Speaker 4: stand ins or any of that kind of stuff. There's
2:35:26
Speaker 4: pure health and wellness. And when I am not diving
2:35:31
Speaker 4: down rabbit holes, which I love to do, I'm I'm
2:35:36
Speaker 4: and because of some of the rabbit holes I've dug down,
2:35:38
Speaker 4: I'm just my heart is in health and wellness. I
2:35:41
Speaker 4: want I want to see my wife get better. I
2:35:44
Speaker 4: want to see other people who have problems not to
2:35:48
Speaker 4: turn to the uh the medical industrial complex. We we
2:35:53
Speaker 4: we know not to look to the fast food industry
2:35:55
Speaker 4: for our nutrition. Well. I would like to get people
2:36:00
Speaker 4: in the mindset that the medical industrial complex is kind
2:36:02
Speaker 4: of like the fast food industry of health and wellness.
2:36:04
Speaker 4: And so if we know to stay away from fast food,
2:36:07
Speaker 4: we'll stay away from fast food. And and so if
2:36:10
Speaker 4: you're interested in any of that kind of stuff, go
2:36:13
Speaker 4: to Naturallybetter for you dot com. And that's that's kind
2:36:16
Speaker 4: of what I do with my spare time. Just I try.
2:36:20
Speaker 4: There's there's some good people that I'm involved with. There,
2:36:23
Speaker 4: there's a good community of people and a huge knowledge
2:36:26
Speaker 4: share and we there there there there is a we
2:36:30
Speaker 4: want to see everybody live a better life naturally and
2:36:34
Speaker 4: so so if that resonates with you, go there. But
2:36:37
Speaker 4: that's about as much of a pitch as as I
2:36:40
Speaker 4: care to do.
2:36:41
Speaker 3: All right, Well, that's all. That's all we want to hear.
2:36:44
Speaker 3: And I think that angle uh, I mean it's not
2:36:48
Speaker 3: conspiratorial and necessarily but we all know about the medical
2:36:52
Speaker 3: industrial complex. Ryan and John both use those terms, and
2:36:58
Speaker 3: I think, yes, during more people words, what you've got
2:37:00
Speaker 3: going on over there is very important or or you
2:37:04
Speaker 3: know what you.
2:37:04
Speaker 4: Know it's it's been said many many times. You know
2:37:07
Speaker 4: your your your medicine cabinet is actually your kitchen. So
2:37:12
Speaker 4: start taking that seriously. Yeah, I don't I don't know
2:37:16
Speaker 4: why people choose to offload the responsibility of their health
2:37:19
Speaker 4: and wellness to a corporate government entity, but you know
2:37:22
Speaker 4: it could start in your kitchen. There's your medicine cabinet.
2:37:24
Speaker 4: Start taking it seriously. And I hope that, you know,
2:37:27
Speaker 4: I hope that we get to a place someday soon
2:37:29
Speaker 4: where people walk into your average American grocery store and
2:37:33
Speaker 4: I hope they're offended by what they see, because all
2:37:36
Speaker 4: it is is like food, porns, just sugar and carbs
2:37:39
Speaker 4: and crab and oh gross, seed oils and shit. There's
2:37:42
Speaker 4: there's hardly anything edible inside most grocery stores. It's not food,
2:37:47
Speaker 4: it's feed. And you know, food is stuff in its
2:37:52
Speaker 4: natural form, and it's hard to find some natural stuff,
2:37:55
Speaker 4: even even in the best grocery stores, you know, even
2:37:59
Speaker 4: even in the produce sect, and try and find, you know,
2:38:01
Speaker 4: produce that hasn't been sprayed with shit or grown in
2:38:05
Speaker 4: toxic chemically shit, or packaged and shit. I mean, it's
2:38:10
Speaker 4: the only tomato you can trust is the tomato that
2:38:13
Speaker 4: you or somebody you knew, group you know, and so
2:38:15
Speaker 4: eat those tomatoes. Don't buy them from corporate sources. You know.
2:38:21
Speaker 2: That.
2:38:22
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to end this recording. Thank you, conspiracy players.
2:38:27
Speaker 3: Be sure to wash behind your ears and grow your
2:38:29
Speaker 3: own tomatoes, and I think everything will be all right
2:39:00
Speaker 5: At the Chatt