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185: Welcome to Plathville - Give Me Your Mud (S6 E6) / Unexpected (S6 E12) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
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  Speaker 1: of your hosts, Delia here with my real tight homegirl
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  Speaker 1: and my daughter in law bea dreg. Hello, we are
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  Speaker 1: here to talk. Welcome to platfill and also unexpected. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: got a lot on our plate a lot. Now, before
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: In advance, appreciate it. Do you want to just get
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  Speaker 1: right into Welcome to play?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? This episode was so boring.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of yeah, oh damn gee.
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  Speaker 3: Like there was like nothing, but we start with the
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  Speaker 3: Spartan race that the family does with Mike co and
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  Speaker 3: all the other kids except Ethan and except Kim and
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  Speaker 3: her sugar body.
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  Speaker 1: Well you know Kim's not gonna do the Spartan race, honey,
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: we know that's not gonna happen. But we did get
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  Speaker 1: to see Mica without his shirt off again I know.
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  Speaker 2: But also little Eyesen, I'm like, why are you trying
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: to make me lust after this eighteen year old boy?
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  Speaker 1: It's not working because I never would, but little is
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  Speaker 1: you should be on milk manor I could be, I
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: could be, I would run that house young.
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  Speaker 3: And Kelly's got nothing on me, honey, No, honey, she don't.
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  Speaker 3: But this was kind of a cute, wholesome segment, I guess,
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  Speaker 3: because the whole family is there together doing something.
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  Speaker 1: I'm bored.
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  Speaker 3: But the only interesting thing was that Barry wanted to
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  Speaker 3: do this for a long time, but Kim was never
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  Speaker 3: interested in it.
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  Speaker 1: Why could that be?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 1: And he took a dig at her last week too,
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  Speaker 1: with Micah present about how he wants to date somebody
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  Speaker 1: with like some semblance of a little bit of fitness.
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  Speaker 1: Could I find somebody out there taking a dig at Kim?
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Kim never wanted to do it. So now
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  Speaker 1: he's got most of his kids, Yeah, all of whom
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: are fit. I'm super impressed with Amber. I know, she's
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  Speaker 1: fourteen years old.
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  Speaker 3: Fifteen. Yeah, she's got.
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: A banging little figure, she's strong, goals.
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  Speaker 3: I loved it. I thought they were all pretty cool.
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  Speaker 3: I could never do something like that. No, nor would
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  Speaker 3: I ever want to anything.
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  Speaker 1: I think you could.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to do. I don't go through mud
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  Speaker 3: and stuff get her hair.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could, And I think you would excel.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's very nice of you. But as we say here,
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  Speaker 3: we're done with the fatness. I don't think I could
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  Speaker 3: do it in under an hour, like freakin Micah.
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  Speaker 1: And ye Isaac was like thirty nine minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, although Micah's mad at him because he thinks that
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  Speaker 3: he skipped a step.
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  Speaker 1: Which he did, Yeah, but he didn't mean to.
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  Speaker 3: No, he didn't.
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  Speaker 1: And if he had done it, would it really have
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: added like an additional five minutes. No, he probably would
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  Speaker 1: have still beat Micah, yeah, which I loved me too.
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  Speaker 3: And then Amber was third, which I was like, you're
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  Speaker 3: a freaking beat. She beat Barry yeap. Barry was fourth,
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  Speaker 3: and then Mariah and Lydia were they made it, you
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  Speaker 3: know there me.
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  Speaker 1: And you, like the sun's going down, people are packing
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: up the tents and like, is there anybody else out
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  Speaker 1: in the course it's me and you for sure, just
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  Speaker 1: in the mud drinking party in your vapon.
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: Drug taking her sixth break in between. Yes, yeah, absolutely,
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  Speaker 3: So that was pretty much it for them. And then
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: we have Olivia and her producer planted friend in La
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  Speaker 3: and he's like, I do not care at all with
• 4:53
  Speaker 3: their gay pilates instructor. I can't.
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: Well, this was the first week of this sea where
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: I really did join the consensus of people saying why
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: why are you on the television show? Like why are
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: we following your life? And now we're gonna have manufactured
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  Speaker 1: dating scenes and we're gonna hear about your ho phase.
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: I know, which wasn't even a hoo phase.
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: Not a whole phase. And I also think it was
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  Speaker 1: just another attempt by Olivia to try and be morally superior,
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: like women always get slut shamed, which they do, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and cold hose, which they do. And I'm taking it back.
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: And it's not that that's not valid. I think it is,
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  Speaker 1: but it's always so performative y I can't tell whether
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  Speaker 1: she really means it yea or not. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: find it enjoyable to watch personally. I don't me neither.
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  Speaker 3: And then you're talking to this friend that we've never
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: seen before about your divorce, and you're spilling all of
• 5:53
  Speaker 3: this tea about Ethan, which is basically that he's a
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  Speaker 3: man child baby diaper baby, and he's saying the same
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  Speaker 3: shit it to you in his letter that he said
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: a couple years ago in a birthday card or something,
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  Speaker 3: and how you don't think it's genuine. I'm like, I
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  Speaker 3: don't care. I don't care.
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just another attempt to indict Ethan for being
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  Speaker 1: a subpar partner, which.
• 6:15
  Speaker 3: We are already been knowing. Yeah, we agree with you.
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: She does bring up the fact that he wrote her
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: a letter three years ago when they were going through
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: their separation. I think that was season three or four
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and then he wrote that additional letter at
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: the very end of what is it last episode?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, when he signed the.
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: Paper because she didn't have any capacity to listen to
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: anything he had to say, so we wrote it all down,
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: and then she compared and contrasted the letter he wrote
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: three years ago to the letter that he wrote just now,
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: and it's all the same shit, Like there's been no progress.
• 6:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, according to Olivia, right, I mean we've made the
• 6:53
  Speaker 3: argument for Ethan throughout some of the prior seasons that
• 6:57
  Speaker 3: he did try and then there was a point where
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: he stopped trying. So like I think he tried like
• 7:02
  Speaker 3: earlier on in their marriage, and then it just never
• 7:05
  Speaker 3: was good enough. And so it's just like I'm tired
• 7:07
  Speaker 3: of her constantly talking about him. But then not really
• 7:11
  Speaker 3: owning up to any of her own shit in the marriage.
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: It's just him being a shitty partner. So she had
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: to leave. And then I was kind of side eyeing
• 7:19
  Speaker 3: her a little bit for the fact that she started
• 7:21
  Speaker 3: dating immediately once she moved to LA, which was like
• 7:25
  Speaker 3: when they were still married, they were just separated, And
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that's kind of similar to kim Plath. It's
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: not adulteress, right, but it's kind of similar to kill.
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  Speaker 1: The parallels are very interesting. And when she was out
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: in Phoenix with Lydia Grace going on her red Blazer
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: real estate date with her sister, didn't she say that
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: she was unaccustomed to dating. Yes, and like she hasn't
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: been out in so long, Like the last time she
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: was really out to a bar or Wadova was back
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: in Florida with all those random women. I'm like, Okay,
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: which is it then, So now you know, a couple
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: weeks later, three weeks later, maybe it's two months later.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the timeline and is now all
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, as soon as you left Minnesota and
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: you move to LA you were dating. So that doesn't
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: really sound very truthful to me. But also I don't care, Like,
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: go ahead, like if you feel in your heart of
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  Speaker 1: hearts that you're separated and that equals divorce and that
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  Speaker 1: gives you license to go, do you. I'm one hundred
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: percent behind it. I've been there, honey, Yeah for sure,
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: and I definitely agreed. Yeah, but like, just tell the truth.
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: Just tell the truth, yep. And I just don't know
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  Speaker 1: what's going on with that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my exact problem with it, Like just be genuine,
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: Like you want everybody else to be genuine, and you
• 8:32
  Speaker 3: call Ethan out for being disingenuous in his letter, but
• 8:34
  Speaker 3: then you're kind of doing the same thing here and
• 8:37
  Speaker 3: you're producing these moments for the TV show to stay relevant.
• 8:40
  Speaker 3: And that's where it's like, Okay, everybody is though.
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, we also have Ethan wrapping with that skin alien,
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: that weird person with the big eyes, and they look
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: like a very distorted other dimensional justin Timberlake, Like yeah,
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: a I deconstructed, reconstructed into a skin alien, and I'm like,
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: who is this person? You have all of these weird
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: producer plant people to kind of support or buttress storylines
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: that are boring, as how it would be so much
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: more interesting if we could talk about implas duhy, I know,
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: can we talk about the adultery? That's all we want
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: to talk about. I don't care about you rapping Ethan.
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: I don't care at all.
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: I don't care about you dating Olivia. Well, I kind
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: of care. I don't about Olivia dating, and I would
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: love to see Ethan dating. I would love to see
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: Isaac dating and everybody moving on with their life. But
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: this is not what I want to see. Was very
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: bored this episode.
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: Very fucking boring. And I will give Olivia credit here
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: because she did say something in this pilate segment. She
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: said she's like talking shit about Ethan and how like
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: he wasn't genuine in the letter, blah blah blah. But
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: then she said, I don't want the hurt part of
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: me to dictate how I feel about everybody else. And
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, that's cool if you actually mean it.
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: I like that you're saying that and trying to take
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: some kind of accountability for being reactive to everybody. But
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: if I'm looking at your Instagram, I don't know if
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: you're actually like embodying that, I don't know. We'll see.
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: Well, the idea is of something called a pain body.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: Like everybody has a pain body, which is like this
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: energetic or etheric version of yourself that collects all the
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: pain and the trauma that you've been in in your
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: life or that you've experienced. And so the goal or
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: the challenge is to not live or speak from your
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: pain body, but from your actual intentional human self that
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: is always trying to develop and progress. And so we
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: do have to kind of suss out, well, is Olivia
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: talking from her pain body or she talking from her
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: intentional human that's trying to get better. I tend to
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: give her the benefit of the doubt, but I can
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: also understand when she lapses into her pain body because
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: she's been through a lot as a child, in a marriage,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: now as a divorced person. So anyway, that's my ted
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: talk on the pain body.
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sense. Think Ethan Plath's in
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: his pain body.
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think he only has a pain body. I
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: think his other human self does not exist. He's just
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: a ghost in the energy of his pain body, Like
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: he does not know how to articulate in a way
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: that is healthy. Yeah, that is substantive that can like
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: move a relationship along he is only ever expressing himself
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: from his trauma and his bullshit.
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he needs to get some fucking therapy or have
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: somebody actually help him figure his shit out and learn
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: to rap or not.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: So like, we actually don't need that from you. Thank
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: you' all.
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: I'd rather hear you saying in a Johnny Cash type
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: of way playing your guitar.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: That's great. Stick with that, thank you, agreed.
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: And then we have the most interesting part of the episode,
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: which is at the very end.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: Uh huh uh.
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: Were come back from the Spartan race and we're at
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: Micah and his girlfriend Veronica's place, and he's sitting there
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: talking to the producers about how he missed her at
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: the race. He wished she could be involved, and she
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: comes out of the door. She's like, I can hear
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: you all, and then sits down and we see her
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: finally we see her face. Yes, we get to actually
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: see Veronica, and I think she's very pretty.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think their interaction is so strange. Fuck, it's
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: very stilted. I think maybe she could be socially awkward.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: I just don't understand what brought these two beautiful people
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: together on this journey we call life, cohabitating, sharing that
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: space in Florida. Yeah, I don't get it. She doesn't
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: seem to necessarily have a lot of affection for him.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: She might just be kind of a cold persona though
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: maybe like I'm not really picking it up. And then
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: even him though, because he's kind of a very empathic,
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: lovey kind of guy, Like he's also pulled back in
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: his interactions with her.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: I just I don't know what's going on with that,
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: but I'm side eyeing it. There's some up with these
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: new people. Yeah, there's some up with this Veronica. I'm
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: not sure what it is, but it's kind of got
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: my little raccoon monocle engaged. And my little raccoon knows
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: just sniff in the air, I smell some money.
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: Oh no, oh yeah. And I've been seeing people online
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: saying that she's kind of like an Olivia two point
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: zero because she's kind of bossing him around. We saw
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: that in the first episode with the lists, his chore
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: lists and all that, and even in this interaction they
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: kind of have like a little not like a spat,
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: but like a little disagreement of like who handles everything
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: in the house, And she's like, oh, I do everything
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: inside and Micah does everything outside. He's like, no, you don't.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: It's very bizarre. And then the topic of marriage comes up,
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: and that was so awkward because the producers like, do
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: you see yourself getting married right after this or right
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: before this? Micah says, yeah, we act like a married
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: couple because we live together, we have dogs together, like
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: we do everything together. And then the producers ask do
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: you see yourself getting married? And they just look at
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: each other all weird, and Mike's like, mmm, no comment,
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: mm hmmm, bizarre.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they've talked about it before. Maybe Micah is
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: open to it and she is not. Maybe it's the
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: other way around. But it's just a very interesting relationship.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: From what I understand, Veronica has met the family. I
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: think we have Instagram posts on Micah's page going back
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: a year or longer, so like she has interacted with
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: the plast They know who she is. But it just
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: feels very strange. It just feels very strange, and I
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: don't like it for Micah. Yeah, I think he needs
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: a different kind of girl personally.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It just felt weird, and to me,
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: my general vibe on it was that they've probably been
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: together a lot longer than we even know, because we
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: have that photo of them on the beach with Kim
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: and Ken Palmer and she's in it, and everyone's like
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: when was this taken? Like how long have they actually
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: been together? Because Micah in this season is acting like
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: it's this new relationship. You just flew back from LA
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: to move in with her in Florida, like on a whim.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, and wasn't he dating in season five? Like
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: all of these randos and La and stuff like, so
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: which is it? Were you dating around or were you
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: with this person or were they just trying to keep
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: it secret. I don't know, they have every right to
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: do that. It's just there's something about this that's just
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: not landing right with me.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: I know. I want to see more of how they
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: interact together, because this was kind of an awkward, like
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: impromptu like she's just on the couch because she chose
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: to be on camera this time, so it felt really awkward.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: And she's like a real estate agent, so I'm like,
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: don't you want to be like more personable, Like I
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: don't know, just honey.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I went up on her Instagram just to check it
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: out and see what's going on? And there were like
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: photos of mansions in southern Florida, and then what looks
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: like a photoshopped image of her in these various houses,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: kind of the same photoshopped image, and it's at a
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: weird angle. Her feet look really big. It's just very strange.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: I know, it's really strange. But I heard that Micah
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: and her now have a shared Instagram account. They do
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: under Veronica Plath, right.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she has it Veronica dot Plath and like the
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: bio is something like, you know, don't make assumptions about us.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: People think that they're married because she has it listed
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: like that, but I think she hasn't listed because it's
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: like Veronica and then Micah Plath. I don't know. It's
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: very weird though, because it's their couple's Instagram and it
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: only has three posts on. Yeah, they're weird to me.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Micah, you're in danger, my friend, and you're very young.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: How old is he? Twenty two?
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Twenty two?
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: You do not need to be getting engaged or getting
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: married to this woman in Florida. You don't. You don't
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: need to be doing any of that. Well I did that, Well,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I know you did. I did that too, but I
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: just doesn't. He does not have the emotional ability, the
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: emotional capacity that you had at even twenty years old. Yeah,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: he's just not there. He has so much learning to
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: do in the world.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Well, and it just since seemed like he wants that
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: level of commitment. Like just a couple episodes ago, he's
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: talking about how he watched all these marriages fall apart,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: and he's like, I don't really want any part of that.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: And he has every right to feel that way. But
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe is he being a hobosexual. Is he just like
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: with her because he's got a place.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: To live his broke Oh maybe I don't know, hobosexual.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's being a hoposexual. But he could just go
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: back to kro and live with Barry.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Oh for sure.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: They seem to get along great.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but then they mean even last episode or remember
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Michael was talking about Barry's judgments, like he was saying,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Barry probably still looks down on Micah for living with
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: his girlfriend but not being married, Like Barry's still very
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: traditional and believes in commitment and blah blah blah, And
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: so maybe Barry doesn't approve.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not seeing any of that from Barry,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: but we're not privy to conversations they might be having
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I just don't see him as being
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: judgmental because his whole life exploded, right, and like, who
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: is he to judge? But maybe he is. Maybe he's
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: being a judgmental father. I don't know.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know. I would like to see more
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: of Veronica though. I want to see more of their interactions.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Oh me too, I want to with my rakou mom.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Oh me too, girl, I'm about her. I don't like
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: her any Yeah, there's he's a tender hearted person. She's
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: pretty abrasive. She seems a little she's girl bossing, a
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: little too close to the sun. I'll worry about it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: But it's his life. It is his life, Go live it, Micah,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: my dear.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: With your dogs and all that. And then we have
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: the preview for the next episode. We have Olivia again
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: talking about her dating life and talking about her first
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: date in particular where the guy was like, hey, you
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: want to see my cats, and she was apparently so
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: naive and went to his apartment and then realized it
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: wasn't just this. Yeah, I wonder if she actually fucked him.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I hope. And then we have Lydia
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Plath's birthday and the siblings have a surprise birthday party,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: but they're pretending like they don't give a shit about
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: her birthday, So that'll be interesting.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Before you go on, we did talk through the last
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: week about Lydia Plath because it came out on Reddit
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: somewhere that back in season three when Kim was getting
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: on Lydia for texting a boy and having a crush
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: on a boy and a boy having a crush on her,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that boy was actually Nathan Megs, Olivia's brother, the one
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: that lived with them when they lived in Tampa. I'm dead,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: who has gone on to be a very homophobic patriot.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Uh huh.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: So it was Lydia and Nathan because we were hoping
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: we would meet the boy that she fell in love
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: with last year, which was not Nathan. So these are
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: two different boys.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Man, she's a hoe.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: No she's not. She's traveling in the world singing about
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Jesus and meet him. Men. But it was Nathan Meggs.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I thought that her boyfriend was Nathan Meggs. No, it
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: was just the guy she was texting.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the guy she was texting. I think
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the boyfriend from last season is a different guy. We
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: don't know who.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: That is unfortunate. I wish we knew who that was.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: But oh, my god, how scandalous. Barry scandal So that
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: means when Nathan was around, like last season, yeah he
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: was he like snooping with Lydia. Were they like sneaking out?
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because Lydda was living in kro taking
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: care of Kim Plath's children at the time. But I
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: just wonder what was happening at the river or whatever,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: because Lydia was there and Nathan was there.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: F my god's scandalous.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I just thought i'd share that.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I forgot about that, so thank you for sharing. And
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: then the last thing that we have in the preview
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: for next episode is Kim and Barry meeting up for
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: the first time since they were separated, and Barry's frustrated
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: about something and Kim's uncomfortable. It's not safe.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember that in the preview, were maybe yeah,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: oh no, it's just falling. I was nodding off. This
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: was a boring episode, but I would love to get
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to it because I don't think we've have we seen
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: them together yet Nope this season. So this will be
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the first time we're getting these people in the same room.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: And I think it's before the family concert, like it's
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: before God the all of that, which that would have
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: been better to see this episode than Ethan wrapping.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Spartan race without question.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: God.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: All right, are you ready now to get into unexpected? Yeah, okay,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: let's get into it. All right, we are back to
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: get into unexpected. Kaylee had her baby, Honey, Yep, she
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: had her baby. Take it away, Beatrice.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: He's eight pounds three ounce, big go ahead.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Big old bible head, little body. Yes, a big old
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: jelly big head, jellyfish, little appendages. Poor Kaylee stuck up
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: in the pelvis I get out.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: No ship. So then she's discharged after her emergency C
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: section and they get home and she's hoping that Graham
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: will step up. He's in the car with them on
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: the drive home, and it's bumpy and Kaylee's scar is hurting,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: and Graham's just on his phone. Yep, he doesn't care.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: And he was on his phone during the entire labor
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: and or sleeping. And I don't know why we expect
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: him to do something different or to interrupt his pattern.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: This is who he is.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: And while Kaylee like, we can't really blame you because
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: you're fifteen years old and you don't know how to
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: judge men and their patterns. Mandy, you already know this
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: kid's not going to be helping. No, I don't know
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: why you're always on the couch saying well, I really
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: hope that Beggy and Graham step up and start taking
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: care of littles. They're never going to do it, never,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: They're never gonna do it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: But hopefully Mandy will get Kaylee to lock him in
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: on some child support or something. So he's sixteen, well.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's gonna get a job, okay, working at
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: the dairy queen or whatever. Like that's support isn't going
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: to make a difference until he's out of college.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, true, but still it's something.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Is he too anxious to have a job that we
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: just could be throwing up in his cubicle all the
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: time as soon as things get hard. I'm sorry, Oh
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: is that rude? I mean, yeah, sorry, just the shivering
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Chihuahua of a man.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Well, and it sucks because he's fucking sixteen. So it's like,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: can you expect a lot out of him. But then
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: you contrast that with Nate from Emily and nank you,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, here's a upstanding young gentleman. He's stepping up,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: he's trying to be a good dad. So I don't
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: know it's possible. But at the same time, he's also
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: sixteen and he's stupid.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: He is stupid. And the plan at this time is
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: that he's going to spend the first week out of
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the hospital with Kaylee and Easton so that he can
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: pick up some of the slack and that Kaylee doesn't
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: have to do everything herself. And then of course we
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: will get to the preview. It doesn't seem to work
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: out that way.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: No, it doesn't at all. And then we have Anaya and.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Day day in the world is happening. Anaya, you are
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: eighteen years old at the time of this filming, and
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: you want to be a party promoter. Like you're leaving
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the house and you're leaving your I don't know, three
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: month old child with whomver, like whoever you can pawn
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: your kid off so that you can go be a
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: party promoter and dance and invite people. I don't know
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: what I know she wants.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: To be an influencer. This is what's wrong with today's
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: kids nowadays.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: That's your generation. No, it's not, Yeah, it's Jen, it's gen.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Z Jen Alfa. I think, really, I don't know.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know. You're a millennial. It doesn't matter. But
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: it just is so stupid.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: It's not something that's going to last. No, but I
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: guess if your perception, and maybe she is because she
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: said she's had her ig since she was thirteen years
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: old and she's got forty thousand some odd followers yikes.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: And so if she says it's a party, people are
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: going to come out to party. But I'm just like, wow,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: that's a lot like when you're two three months postpartum.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of crazy. And then going to do
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: this party and you're calling data up to watch your
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: kid and he's like, no, I want to go and
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: be an eighteen year old too. I'm going to go
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: do something. And she gets on mad. He ends up
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: showing up and she's like, Okay, bye, I'm going to
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: be back at like three in the morning. Probably I don't.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Know, but the way that she frames frames this is
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: like it's in retaliation for Dati wanting to go into
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the Air Force. Well, Dade wants to travel the world
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: and see the sights and leave us. And so I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: got to get my money up and I'm going to
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: go and be a party promoter and a social media influencer.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And then they're showing all of these pictures and it's
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: just her with her boobs out, and I know everything,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And I mean, she's a beautiful, beautiful girl, and I
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: know that that's currency in this world, but I just
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: want a little bit more for her. And I think
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Dady's a good guy. I think it probably makes a
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: lot of sense for him to enlist in the military
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: and get all kinds of benefits for you and for
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: your child and so y'all to get married and like
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: it's a hard life. He's gonna be gone a lot,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: but be able to provide for you and make good
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: money and also learn some skills that he can monetize
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: when he gets out of the military. Exactly, why aren't
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: we supporting this young man? I don't understand. I mean,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: why aren't we supporting her? True, there's no support like
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: judging her for party promotion. I just it's so vapid
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Well, and I mean she's a product of Ashley. This
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: is like a terrible mom too. Like I mean she's
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I know, she's working a lot, and I think she's
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: a single mom and stuff, so she has to have
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: a career.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I wonder why she kids, but because she's hateful, because
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: she's terrible and evil, and she's teaching her children to
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: be hateful and evil.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Exactly well, and like Anaya is inherently selfish, because I
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: mean we talked about this earlier in the season. Ashley
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: was all worried about Anayah and how she was going
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: to be as a mom because she's gonna have to
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: think about somebody else other than herself. And here we
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: are seeing it where she's wanted to go party after
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: she just gave birth to this beautiful baby.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Is she trying to make money or is she trying
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to get back at day day? I don't, I don't really.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I just I wish she would maybe enroll in university.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Go ahead and get your education, like start to contemplate
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: what you want to do with yourself in the future.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: It's just every single youngster now wants to be a
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: YouTuber or a TikTok content creator.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: It's cringe.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: It is cringe, and it's it's you're not going to
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: be successful. I don't think you're going to be successful.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: But that's just me. I'm an old head. Maybe I'm
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: just judgy. I apologize, I.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Agree, and I'm not even old.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Well I am old comparison to you're an old soul.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Yes. And then we have Emily.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I hate her so much. Girl. The discourse on Reddit
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: is kind of all over the place with Emily, like
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: she's got people who are like, well, she's eighteen years old.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: She's also a kid. It's true. She's trying to be
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: a mom and she's living under Terreen's rule and it's
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: got to be hard. And I'm like, and that's all true,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: but so is Nate. Yes, but so is Nate. The
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: way she talks to Nate chaps my hide so much. Beatrice,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I cannot it's daughter.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Taren hasn't seen her child, sorry, her grandchild, in a
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: month and a half because Emily left after being a
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: complete beach yep and has weaponized her child immediately, as
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I knew she would, because I'm a fake psychic. I
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: first episode, I was like, I don't like that girl,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: uh huh, And now Taren doesn't get to be a grandma,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and Nate has to be at the mercy of Emily's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: temper just because if he's not, he's afraid he's not
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: gonna see his child.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: And that's like his biggest fear. He talks about that
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: every episode. I don't want to be a deadbeat, like
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: my dumb deadbeat dad was to me like that was
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: super hurtful. And I feel that because I'm the kid
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: of a deadbeat dad. I had a bio dad who
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: didn't want anything to do with me, and I hated
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: that growing up, and so I feel for him. He's
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: really trying his fucking best, but nothing is good enough.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: I have been seeing some people on Instagram be critical
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: of him because he was complaining about the diapers or something,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: and everyone's like, that's the least he could do is
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: change the diapers after she had a traumatic birth, and
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, that's great. But he's complaining about how
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: she's totally abusing him, like yelling at him for forgetting
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: her his phone and calling him stupid and immature at
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: every single.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: The tone in which she speaks to him, just speaking
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: to him like he's stupid, And then on the couch
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: to us, she's like, I feel like I have to
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: be his mom. I'm parenting him, and he's so immature.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, bitch, you are two years older than this
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: young man. You are also immature. I would dare say
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: he's way more mature than you are. He's got the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: long view. He's thinking about his kid and trying to
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: keep this together. He doesn't have the skills or the
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: resources to know how to do it, but he's trying.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: But he's being so deferential to her. He's being so
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: timid around her. That just shows me how she is.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: When the cameras are off, she's just walking all over him.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: And I thought it was really interesting when her own
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: dad sits down on the couch with Nate and says,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I really want to thank you because this girl is
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a lot. I love that you are putting up with
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: a lot because we all know how she is, and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: that's all I'm gonna say. So the unspoken thing is
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: she's a whole hell of a lot. Uh huh, and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: she's mean.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Yep. I loved that because I thought Nate really needed
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: to hear that from a male figure too, like he's
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: hearing it from his mom. Of course, I know. Tarran's
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: being like, she's a big old bitch. I hate her.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: But you're doing great, sweetie.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I love you.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Like And Taran was even saying in this episode she
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: didn't want Nate to move out with Emily because he's sixteen.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: He's still a kid, and he's still in high school,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: so like he still needs to do all these things.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: And Emily seems pretty bitter about that. But it's like, girl,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you expected when you had sex,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: presumably unprotected with a sixteen year old kid. You fucking dummy. Like,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry you're calling him all immature?
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: What about you? Yeah?
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: And that's okay. You guys are both kids, Like, I
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: get it, You're both gonna be immature. You're brains aren't
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: even fully formed yet.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Right, But why is he worse for what he did
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: than what you did? I don't understand it, Karen. Karen
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: is well within her rights to be a parent to
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: her minor child, who again is only sixteen years old
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: at this time. He's supposed to be in the house
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: until eighteen. Sounds like Emily was all ensconced in her
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: house Terence's house with all kinds of attitude, ignoring Taren,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: not talking to Teren. And don't get me wrong, Taren
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: looks like she's got a bit of her own attitude
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: and she's got a backbone. I'm sure she was calling
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: things out and standing up for her son, But it
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: feels like Emily's primary problem is that Taren won't let
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Nate do what Emily is telling him to do.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, she feels like Terreen's controlling him and therefore
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: controlling Emily, and.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: She doesn't like that because Emily wants to control him. Exactly.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a power struggle.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Nate, Honey, at some point, you're gonna have to throw
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: off these chains and stand up to Emily. And I
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: don't know if you've done it yet, because again, they're married,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: So they go from this season to at some point
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: getting married. It ain't gonna last. At some point, the
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: damn's gonna have to break.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: I just hope she doesn't continue to weaponize their child,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: because that's not fair to the child. She will, and
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: it's not fair to Nate.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: It just sucks well, and you have to wonder how
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: much she's projecting onto Taran because she herself is motherless.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Her mother abandoned her, and so Aren might have been
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: doing everything she could do and might have been doing
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: things right. But because Emily has all of this trauma
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and bullshit attached to her idea of what a mother
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: is like, maybe Taran was never gonna win in that situation,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: no matter how much she wanted to help. Yep, you
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: just don't know. But all I know is what I see.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: And Emily has got her whole ass out. She's treating
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Nate terribly and I feel bad for him.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: I do too. And also we can make the argument
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: that she is postpartum, so maybe she's dealing with a
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: lot of that.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: She was like this before her.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: She was a little bit, but she was also like
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: overdue and really fucking frustrated and tired of being pregnant.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: And I can fuck your hormones up, So like, I'll
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: try to give her a little grace in that, but
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like, stop being such a bitch to this man
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: who's actually stepping up and trying to be there for
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: you and your kid.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Boy.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: But yes, yeah, I mean, but yes, you got a
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: kid now you're a man.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean yes, And then last, but at
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: least we.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Have Lily and Lauren's and we.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Can boycott this, but I don't want to. Yeah, because
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: that's stripper honey girl, so busted and broken down. I'm like,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: who's paying for this stripper? Where are we finding these
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: TLC strippers? But I'm jumping ahead, Please take us there.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Well, it's the day of Lily's bachelorette party. They do
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: spaw Day or whatever.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Does Lily not have actual friends? Yeah, because the only
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: other contemporary person there, like somebody that is even remotely
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: around her age is her sister who's thirty and I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: think Lily's twenty two. And then it's her mom, and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: then it's Lawrence's mom, and then it's some other old biddy.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, don't we have young girlfriends that want to
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: take you out on a bachelorette It was really sad.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I know, I kind of felt bad for her. But
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: they do a spa da which was great. She's like,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I have no kids, I get a facial, this is awesome.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: And then they go on to a party bus and
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: this is where we have the stripper that ambushes Lily.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: And Lily didn't know about this stripper. She didn't want
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: a stripper. Her and Lawrence had talked about this. He
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: didn't have strippers at his bachelor party, so therefore she
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: wasn't gonna have any of hers. But I guess her
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: sister dumb but probably meaning well.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: She's probably put up by production totally. Come on, I
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: guess have they got going on?
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, really they got nothing. They surprised her with
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: a stripper who was ugly.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: A I mean, std ridden, sweating, I want to say,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: seventy years old, grecy, just really not attractive. That thong
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: in a whole thong. I mean it was blurred out,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: and I was looking because you know, I will get
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: that monoco out, and I'm like, I see a lot
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: of skin. Yeah, he either has a thong on or
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: he's full on nicked nicked with his everything dong out
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: flapping it in people's faces. Uh huh.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: And poor Lily is traumatized. She's like running away from
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: the stripper. She's hiding in the corner. She's like super upset.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: And then after the stripper leaves because nobody wants him there,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: then Lily immediately texts Lawrence and says they had a
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: stripper and he's pissed.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Yeap doesn't even respond.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Doesn't even respond. And then after the party bus or whatever,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: they come home, Lawrence is nowhere to be found.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: He's in the basement all but her.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: He's so mad. Yeah, he's so mad. Didn't even come
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: up to say hi to Lily. Lily goes down there
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: to try and talk to him, and he's like, fuck,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I can't believe you did this.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: It's over. We're not getting married. And she's like, I'm
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: telling you, it wasn't my idea. I ran to the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: back of the bus. I didn't even look. I didn't
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: want any part of it. But he is so angry.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Even his mom, Sandy, who we love, we lost, like Lawrence,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: it wasn't her fault. She wasn't even looking. She didn't
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: want any part of it. He's like, I don't care.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: We're not getting married. But that's all just producer fakes yes, because.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: They end up getting married the very next episode. I
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: know it's so silly, but his reaction was totally over
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: the top. I thought it was ballsy that he even
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: reacted like that in front of all the family, like
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: her parents were there and he's reacting like that, I mean, like.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: What the fuck, it's just immature couple stuff. I mean,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: it's really kitty stuff. I'm like, okay, so there was
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: a stripper there. I mean, you don't like that. You
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: don't have to like that, But to take it out
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: on Lily to that extent and to make kind of
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: a public spectacle out of it is just really immature
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: and dumb. You're gonna look back at that and feel silly.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: But it's literally like Clayton and Onnaly from Ninetyance. It's
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: so dumb. And then we have the preview for next episode. Graham,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: who is supposed to spend a week with the baby,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: decides to go leave with his friend literally not twenty
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: four hours after they bring Graham home yes, Eastern.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Home, Yes, which really bothers me. And again, Graham's only
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: sixteen and his brain isn't fully formed and nobody taught
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: him how to be a man because he has been
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: living and taking care of is messed out by polar
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: mother in my opinion, and so he doesn't know how
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: to people. He doesn't know how to person. Yeah, but
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: come on, man, you know that your baby has just
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: come home from the hospital. You're not even going to
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: spend twenty four hours there before you're out, I know,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: not a good look.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Not a good look at all. And I felt bad
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: for Kaylee, but it's like, I mean, did.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: You expect what are we doing? This is who we
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: laid down with, This is who we had a baby with.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I guess on Instagram people are coming for Graham, really
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: confronting him about his bullshit, and he immediately goes to
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: those people's profiles and then comes back and calls people
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: old and fat and yeah, insults everybody, like, yeah, he's
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: not having any criticism on ig Yeah, of course.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Not that sucks, but I mean, don't be a deadbeat,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: don't be a piece of shit.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean he's sixteen. Yeah, but then again, Nate, yah.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: And mean's doing really great yep.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: But not that Emily would admit it, but of course.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: And then we have Jenna with her pregnancy tests because
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: her and JJB fucking unprotected, like we learned about a
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: couple episodes ago, and she's probably she's definitely pregnant. I
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: think she does have the baby, yes, because we see
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: it on Instagram or whatever.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I think the baby's name is Jimmy. Okay, yeah, that's
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: what I think I read somewhere.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: All right, yep. I'm not gonna judge, but okay, I'm
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: named Beatrice, so why I can't judge.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I love your name, it's awesome.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: But I have been seeing on Reddit and on her
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Instagram she's coming for the haters because people are like
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: being really critical of Jenna and like why is she
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: leaving her kid when she goes to Orlando studios like
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: blah blah, like stupid stuff. Yeah, and she's like responding
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: to every single hater.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: You can't do that, I know, Yeah.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: She cannot take criticism.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: You just inspire them to continue to troll you.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: And so I mean sometimes we address our haters, but
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: like we laugh about it, like I fully expect to
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: get trolled, oh yeah, and to get dragged. Yeah, and
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: frankly I deserve it. It's okay, yeah, Jenna, you shouldn't
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: do that, like, don't give them any energy, honey.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Yep. But she's young and dumb like everyone else on
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: the show. Yes, And then we have Lily saying for
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: the producers that she doesn't know she wants to get married.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, with your wedding dress on and your makeup all done,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, shut up, why are you on this season.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: It makes no sense. There are so many other kids
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: across America. I haven't been business, I know, and we
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: would have wanted to meet not Lily, yeah, Jenna, get
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: him off, Matenavisy.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: All for real. I don't want to see them at all.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: So that's it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Well, this was fun, a great time.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: I mean it's kind of boring.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Lael was boring, unexpected bit boring, but I always have
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: fun with you, honey, of course. Now is there anything
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: else that we need to say to these beautiful raccoons
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: before we get up on out of here.
• 40:31
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• 40:34
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• 40:37
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• 40:40
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• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: We will be back next week on Monday sharp to
• 40:46
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• 40:49
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• 40:53
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• 40:56
  Speaker 1: love for you and peace and