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Episode 6.36: Emotions and More Emotions · Return to Glory - Nebraska

• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Turn to Glory podcast December second, not off season yet.
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  Speaker 2: Thank god we did not stop the podcast after our
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  Speaker 2: return to Glory after Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, or do we begin it's seven two?
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  Speaker 3: Any more?
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  Speaker 1: News broke yet Monday evening. There's a lot to get to.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm actually still finishing eating good podcast on tenth.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. I know how I feel about Nebraska football
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  Speaker 1: right now. I just don't. I don't really know what's
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: going on.
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  Speaker 2: To the freaking game Hunter. That's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: I think one of the first podcasts I don't really
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  Speaker 1: have notes on either, just just gonna speak everything as
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  Speaker 1: it is. We are.
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  Speaker 4: I was worried you we're gonna come back. There was
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  Speaker 4: zero text messages after, during, or before the Iowa game
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  Speaker 4: from you, Like I it zero Dirk dirty until the
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  Speaker 4: day or yesterday, I guess when we were like, let's
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  Speaker 4: wait till Monday, and pretty much what I.
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  Speaker 3: Was I thought. I thought the one picture said I'm sad.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna say a name to either of you.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I'll just let you guys live in
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  Speaker 3: the moment.
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  Speaker 2: Just suffer only for a bit.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, how do you heard someone say how do
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  Speaker 1: you prepare yourself for a game to happen like that,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, you just use the last six years.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, did you see that crazy stat of like
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  Speaker 2: the last score games time led Like, I'll pull it up.
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  Speaker 2: We can keep talking about Iowa. Let me find this.
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  Speaker 5: Mh uh.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about Iowa. I really don't.
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  Speaker 1: But the emotions, I will say, have been all over
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  Speaker 1: the place. That's what we're gonna kind of do. We're gonna,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna go through. We're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: our feelings here. We're gonna get a little bit sappy.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna Dak might end up crying, shedding a couple
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  Speaker 1: of tears. Friday, I'll start, I'll start. We'll start from Friday.
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  Speaker 1: We got got a timeline here, so Friday I have
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  Speaker 1: a city, but Friday got up six a m. Left
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  Speaker 1: by six a m. Iowa city pretty neat like area,
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  Speaker 1: bar area, downtown area, like fairly impressed, college town, had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I will say. Leading up to
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  Speaker 1: the game, I'm gonna stop there.
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  Speaker 6: I was excited for that, Dak. How was your game
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  Speaker 6: day Friday experience? Pre game, pre game pretty good, watched
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  Speaker 6: the Gophers win. Good been then the Chiefs game, and
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  Speaker 6: then yeah, watched a watched a great Huskar game.
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  Speaker 3: We'll say that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, actually said before the game, we're not going to
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  Speaker 1: the game yet.
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  Speaker 3: Before the game, that's all. I did watch football before.
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  Speaker 2: Before the game. I'm trying to remember.
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  Speaker 4: It was the volleyball game before the game or after
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  Speaker 4: the game. It all kind of players.
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  Speaker 3: Right, got over right about kickoff.
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  Speaker 4: It was before, so yes, so I did watch that before.
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  Speaker 4: Woke up Friday morning, I went.
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  Speaker 2: I did a line dancing class.
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  Speaker 4: I was taught by some Polish gal in Norfolk, Nebraska
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  Speaker 4: with my family, so that was entertaining. Learned the Cupid shuffle.
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  Speaker 4: I saw Wicked, which was good, enjoyable film, and then
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  Speaker 4: I watched Nebraska lose to Penn State. Not a great game.
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  Speaker 4: Took till the fourth set for us to kind of
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  Speaker 4: figure out what to do defensively against their Penn State system.
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  Speaker 2: So it was pretty bummed after the Penn State lost
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  Speaker 2: and me whipped over to the Iowa game so real.
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  Speaker 1: Quick, I'll get my volleyball pitch. And I actually did
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  Speaker 1: not even know we lost until like like three am.
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  Speaker 1: I did watch a little bit of the first like
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  Speaker 1: set or two. So yeah, I really didn't know it
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  Speaker 1: was on. Let's just say the drinks were flowing, so yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then Mollywall goes on Beach Maryland on Saturday night,
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  Speaker 1: and then we are now in the regional one seed.
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  Speaker 1: But with Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 2: Ye what a bad Nebraska sports weekend.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say that overall Nebraska's sadness, but the
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  Speaker 4: Penn State sadness it wasn't too low, Like I didn't
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  Speaker 4: feel good, but it was like, Okay, I'm gonna watch that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch the football game.
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  Speaker 4: Immediately switching over, like we saw a chance to win
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  Speaker 4: the Big Ten championship for volleyball and then freaking last
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  Speaker 4: night we get put in the same practice Wisconsin. I
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  Speaker 4: was like, man, it cannot That was a real rough weekend.
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  Speaker 4: And then Monday happened, which we're getting too. But so
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  Speaker 4: pre game, here we go, We're going to the game.
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  Speaker 4: We had a just a disaster getting to the game,
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  Speaker 4: but we got there.
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  Speaker 1: And when we got there, the game Kentnick Stadium. It
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  Speaker 1: actually does remind me of a lot of Memorial Stadium. Besides,
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  Speaker 1: it's just crap, like the audios crap. The concourse area's crap.
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  Speaker 1: The bathrooms lines, they're just horrible. But be size wise
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  Speaker 1: what it felt like like in the stadium, it kind
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  Speaker 1: of felt like Memorial but just it just sucked. Iowa fans,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know how I want to talk about them.
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  Speaker 1: They really weren't that bad. I'll be honest, But it's
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  Speaker 1: like after the game. It's like, I'll be honest, I
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  Speaker 1: I wait, that's after the game. Gotta stay in the game,
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  Speaker 1: in the game, in the game, in the game. We
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  Speaker 1: it was awesome, like it was fun, like we were
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  Speaker 1: playing we and this is this is my game analysis.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really want to talk about it all because
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  Speaker 1: we have a lot to get to. But we played
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  Speaker 1: better than them for ninety ninety five percent of the game.
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  Speaker 1: We were the better I bore than nine I mean
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  Speaker 1: five first downs. So Iowa wins the game. We all
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  Speaker 1: know what happened. They don't need to explain how they won.
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  Speaker 1: We had a stabs five first down was over ten
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  Speaker 1: on third downs. Iowa have won the way in like
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  Speaker 1: an extreme fashion of how Iowa beats everybody, but especially Nebraska,
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  Speaker 1: and it just was an extreme version of it where
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: it was very clear that we played better. But what
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  Speaker 1: happens is Iowa waits till we fuck up, waits till
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  Speaker 1: we fuck up, and guess what happened. We did and
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  Speaker 1: we lose thirteen to ten.
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  Speaker 4: Here's here's the Here's the thing I was looking for
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  Speaker 4: in the last four games against Iowa Nebraska that the
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  Speaker 4: time Nebraska has led in the game is one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and thirty eight minutes Iowa's twenty five. The amount of
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  Speaker 4: time Nebraska has led in the fourth quarter is twenty
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  Speaker 4: three minutes to Iowa's three. And we've lost three of
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  Speaker 4: those games.
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  Speaker 1: The four that was Stu Manji, right, Yes, I like
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  Speaker 1: Stu Monji's a great follow by the way on Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: Go go go follow him. He's he always has like
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  Speaker 1: really good numbers and stats and like opinions and thoughts
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: that are like, oh my gosh it and yeah, so
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: like game wise, it was a blast, like we were
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  Speaker 1: winning the game. I have a Snapchat video of me,
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: like we win by punting, We're gonna be dial by punting.
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  Speaker 1: Like I like it was great. We were we were
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  Speaker 1: doing everything so well in the second that we missed
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  Speaker 1: the field goal because of a bad snap and all
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  Speaker 1: that and I was like.
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  Speaker 2: Uh oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: But still I was like, uh oh, but I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: Iowa literally hasn't done anything like at all. They still
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  Speaker 1: they literally have not done nothing the whole game at all.
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  Speaker 1: Anything on offense. They could not move the ball. It
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: was laughable. Like the first two drives, I was like
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: calling out what play they were running? Talk about being predictable,
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  Speaker 1: missfield goal. I'll go four plays miss field goal. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: the seventy two yard house or two yard pass that
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: I that you want to break that play down, But
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  Speaker 1: we've defended it well, we just didn't tackle, like we
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  Speaker 1: missed three tackles, like so, I guess you could say
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  Speaker 1: that's poor, poor, poorly defendive. But we were in position,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, you can you can see the potential
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  Speaker 1: penalties that people are also complaining about, which is whatever
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  Speaker 1: I don't get. We still could have tackled the guy
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  Speaker 1: with the guys that didn't get held or blocked in
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  Speaker 1: the back either. Obviously. Then we have the punt not
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  Speaker 1: really a muff pump, but the fumbled punt ish thing
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  Speaker 1: that happened that led to a field goal. Like after that,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, guy, here they go. They're gonna score, No,
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  Speaker 1: our defense actually held them. And then obviously the Dylan
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  Speaker 1: Royola fumble whatever happened there at the end of the
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  Speaker 1: game led to another feel cool and that was the game.
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  Speaker 5: That was it.
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  Speaker 1: We played better than them all but those four plays,
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  Speaker 1: and boy oh boy for the emotions on like cloud
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  Speaker 1: nine because I'm like, this is great, We're gonna do this.
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  Speaker 1: And then the second Royola fumbled it when I was
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  Speaker 1: like kind of teetering on it, I sat down in
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  Speaker 1: the stands, which, by the way, we didn't sit the
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: whole game. We did not sit the whole game. We stood.
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  Speaker 1: It was awesome. I think people were cold, but we
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  Speaker 1: stood the whole game. I sat down and I did
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  Speaker 1: not watch any of the final until our team was
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  Speaker 1: off the field. I literally sat there because I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: we lost, and we did a speechless like just it's whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I guess. I can't say I'm surprised because we've seen
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  Speaker 1: it before. But it was like how well we played
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  Speaker 1: the entire game, Like how much better we were than
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  Speaker 1: them at every aspect of the game, besides the four plays,
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  Speaker 1: extreme Iowa fashion. That was the game for me. So
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: it was like one of the greatest road environments I've
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: been on trips I've been on, including part of the
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: game Indiana was great this year too, But including the
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  Speaker 1: game Indiana, there was no part of the game that
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: was enjoyable.
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  Speaker 4: If you always watch all your road trips, you watches
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  Speaker 4: get our Asses kicked.
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  Speaker 1: I do. And then on the way home, like I'm
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: used to writing home lost and I was even expecting
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  Speaker 1: it this time, but this one, Oh my gosh, the
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  Speaker 1: I had for the entire trip home and I did.
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  Speaker 1: I put my hood over my head and tried to
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  Speaker 1: sleep and I couldn't really sleep. Was sad, Like that
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  Speaker 1: was the only words that could come out of my
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  Speaker 1: mouth as how sad it was. It was I'm just sad.
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  Speaker 1: This is sad. That was my emotions. Like that's where
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  Speaker 1: I was at. I didn't want to talk to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: We stopped for gas to go take a peed break.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, nope, I'm not moving.
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  Speaker 2: What about after the game?
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  Speaker 1: Great? So yeah, that's that. That was my next thing.
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  Speaker 1: I I was just sad. I walked out in Iowa.
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  Speaker 1: Fans were very humble, you know, They're like, yeah, at
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: least you guys made a Bowl game this year, Like
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: we believe that you guys, you know moving. I had
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: my arm around an Iowa fan walking down to the
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: stadium and back to the car for about three minutes,
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  Speaker 1: talking about like he was trying to comfort me. I again,
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: I wasn't mad. I was like I was. I was like,
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: it's sad, and everybody, like Iowa fans were laughing kind
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  Speaker 1: of like they're like, oh my god, like they knew
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  Speaker 1: how bad they played. They knew they they know this
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: is from a team that does this traditionally, like they
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: know they do this every year, but this was like
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  Speaker 1: extreme fashion of how it happens, and they knew it
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: was an extreme fashion, and it's like it's laughable. Kirk
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  Speaker 1: Farns was just laughing at how this game went. He's
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: laughing about it. And Oscar Ranger, I don't even know,
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  Speaker 1: like people just I don't even say we were mad.
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  Speaker 1: It was just like, oh my god, that I get
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  Speaker 1: this just happened. Ah, so sad.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I guess watching at home similar emotion where it's like
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: I was watching it with my family and we weren't
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: like angry, We're like I can't believe this freaking It
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: was just like oh, man, on top of the Penn states,
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: it's like, man, this blows like and I will say
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: part of that like when we got the ball back
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: and there was I literally had this knock starm and
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: being like, well, this is a different feeling. I was like,
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: at least we won't lose in regulation this year because
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: I felt that good about us not fucking it up.
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, like, even if we
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: don't score here, it's a tie game, we'll go to overtime.
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: Maybe we lose there, but I don't think we're gonna
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: lose right now. Well, sure is shit bumbleet and field
• 13:16
  Speaker 4: goal range. They can't move the ball at all, but
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: still happens to be at field goal range.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Go.
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  Speaker 3: So during the game, I was at my uncle's house
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: and it was a party during the game, like we
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: all were just expecting. When there's ten nothing, I thought
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: it was completely over because, like you said, I was
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: not moving the ball at all. I did think though,
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: during the game, I thought the quarterback was one of
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  Speaker 3: the better ones they've had against the basket a while.
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  Speaker 1: Like, he didn't do anything. You didn't do anything either, No,
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: you said, you texted me that. I'm like, he didn't
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  Speaker 1: do any He literally did nothing, like they did not
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  Speaker 1: do anything on offensive like that one play. So I
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: guess he didn't turn it over, but I our quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: don't do that. Anyways, he didn't do anything.
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  Speaker 3: No, and then and then you guys did shut down
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: their running back. But as soon as that pune play happened,
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, this is over, Like this is
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: you go exactly like Nebraska every time lose heartbreaking passion.
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  Speaker 3: But but then, so I'm trying to think, was the
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: next drive so they tied it up? Was the next
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: drive after that where wherever I a little fumbled or was
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: there another drive after that? I can't I can't remember anyway. Anyway, right,
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: did you see the guy come around the corner? You
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: know it's gonna happen, rel it didn't see him coming.
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  Speaker 3: He fumbled it. Ball game and on the TV. I
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: don't know about you, Austin, I couldn't tell that kick
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  Speaker 3: went in.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't either. They had terrible camera.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: It was over the crossbar.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that they missed it. For a second. I
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh, the football gods.
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  Speaker 3: And they won't they won't show replay anything. They just
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: they just cut the end of the game.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, and you knew that they got hit, it
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: was because the kicker went nuts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the king ring was basically over the crossbar. You
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: had no clue where if it went in or not.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he missed it.
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  Speaker 1: But I knew he made it and I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: watch it.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: The quarterback play that Dak says really wasn't that bad
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: was eight for fifteen for one hundred and fifteen yards.
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  Speaker 2: One good good of those yards seventy two came on
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  Speaker 2: one play.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: Through a helmet ball through.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: I just that hole. Oh my god, he's great, But
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: it was guys. Iowa fans literally cheered for nothing the
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  Speaker 1: whole game, Like I can't even explain it, Like I
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: did my first like I think it might be my
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: first ever, like really big loud. I led the go
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Big Red chant and I heard my voice, but I'm
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: pretty sure I killed it. I I don't know that.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Someone told someone some Iowa fan turn round, he goes, man,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: he goes, you actually killed that. I was like, thanks,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: like it was it was great, like we were on
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: cloud nine and for the whole game replace happened. I
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: was just like, you're kidding me. So yeah, after the
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: game whatever it was sad. I was sad the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: I was sad until we got home at five am.
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  Speaker 1: It was a full twenty four hour trip and the
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  Speaker 1: only word to summon up is sad.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I guess the comments that were made about well, at
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: least we made a bowl game. I didn't care, like
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: we knew we made the bowl game.
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  Speaker 3: And would sarcastic about it.
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  Speaker 5: Though.
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  Speaker 1: No, they were being genuine, like very genuine they were.
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  Speaker 1: I I'll say Iowa fans were very respectful. Also the
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: bar that we were at. I guess another reason why
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: this was so fun. We went to Brothers, Iowa City,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: and I'll bet you we had three hundred people in
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: there and two hundred and sixty of them were Nebraska fans.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was great, and it was
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: hard to tell in the stadium because there were probably
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of Nebraska fans wearing black and it was
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: a blackout. I'm also mad at you for wearing black
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: if you were a Husker fan and you were black.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that that was like the whole game day thing.
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  Speaker 1: I just it sums it up any anything else in
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  Speaker 1: the game.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's tough. It was a tough. It was a
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: tough Friday. It's not not anything new though.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I did talk to some other people that went through
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: and they said they said the tail getting seems kind
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: of dead though in the state, Like the isle of
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: fans were not at all, like I.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Mean, it was black Friday and it was cold.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: They weren't loud because they didn't do anything the whole game.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: That's why they weren't loud. They literally had nothing to
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: cheer about.
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  Speaker 4: The second reading rusher in the nation average two point
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: six yards of carry.
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  Speaker 3: You can't be allowed to beginning in the game, No.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: They didn't. They could enter the chure about from the
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: beginning of the game. They had nothing, nothing to cheer about.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: It was offensive. Plays were our special team's blunders yep.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: And in one play the stilgating scene was on the
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: other side of the stadium that we didn't make it
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: over to, so I don't I don't know. We were
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: on the the like the commercial bar type side, So
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I can't speak to that.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, So Saturday, whatever Saturday happened? When did this next
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: news break? Was it Sunday?
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Today?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Today?
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: This morning?
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Whatever Saturday Sunday happened? I'll be honest, I my emotions
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: that got obviously wasn't quite as sad. I was like, Okay,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: we made a bowl game, but I really don't care
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: because I'm still upset. But but but, but it is
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: kind of fun to say, Okay, who are we going
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: to play? What kind of chance were we going to have?
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I think all of our players are going to stay
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: and play because they made a bowl game. Still, but
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the whole pro I think, is just deflated after losing
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: that way. Like you said, Austin, every every roller coaster
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: high that we had off of the Wisconsin game just
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: feel like it just got shot off because of the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: way this. Even if we would have lost like twenty
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to ten this game or twenty seven to ten, and okay,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Iowa played better than us, you know, we're not quite Iowa.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: The Dana Holgerson talk stops real freaking quick after Friday.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: But okay, the hard part about that that game I
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: thought our offense played. Okay, it's like, and I get it, Yeah,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: results are what matters.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: That is true.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I thought we ran them comparing it to Iowa. We
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: ran the ball better than him, we threw it better
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: than him. We then had two turnovers, one of them
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: on offense, one big one at the end. But like,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: we did some good things. Obviously we didn't put points it,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: but the way the game was going, it wasn't like
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: we had to ask our offense to do a whole lot.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: More like we were in control of the game from
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: start to the missfield goal, and then we saw things slip.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but the data conversation is interesting. More to
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: come later because we scored ten points and lost to Iowa,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: and then Tony White says, my defense only gave up thirteen,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: not really even gave up thirteen. You have one play
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: and more to come there too. So Saturday Sunday happens. Whatever.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I was kind of over at bowl game talk. We're
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: gonna figure out where we play here next Sunday. You know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: maybe we're not gonna get in the Tampa Bowl anymore,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: but all these other bowl games are still optioned. We're
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: gonna play an ACC or an SEC school. I think
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: there'll still be some positives I think that come from that.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: We're getting practice time, which I think is good.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: But a chance of redemption.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Chances are redemption, I guess for this team and rule Okay,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: anything else on the weekend, Like I only not much there,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: but the.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Volleyball bracket YEP gets unveiled. That was also major bummer.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I felt it was pretty harsh for sea penalties that
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: much for losing to Penn State three to one. But whatever,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: you get put in the same brackets Wisconsin, which freaking
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: sucks even though we beat them twice this year in sweeps.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: You never thought. I'm like, okay, I mean, they have
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: been kind of our nemesis recently, but we beat them
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: twice and they haven't be a set honest. Yeah, so
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: maybe we just have them this year.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe you know, that's not what you want to see though,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Hey, real quick, Bread, great job something I canna.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Say that you got an opfensive juggernaut now.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Scored one hundred for the first time and exactly with
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: twenty three years I believe he does. And one, gosh it,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: that's looking great. We're we'receiving some boats were around like
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: fortieth now in the polls. If you just add the
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: boats up, you know where we're at. Like, great job, Bread,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: great job for basketball for giving us some go to
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: look forward to. Uh here the next few weeks conference play.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: We have a couple of conference games coming up this week.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I think we play Saturday at Michigan State to kick
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: it off, so that'll be a that'll be a true
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: test see where we're at. Then we have a couple
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: more non con before we finish out with all of
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: our conference games. But yeah, good job the Connors sgion.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I saw someone say better than Case question mark. I
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: was like, don't do that to Case, but he's playing.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't help your rankings here that Creyton's fawn
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: off the map. But but on the other end, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: don't know, if you pay attention to.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Creighton, can just go die on a cliff get out
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: of here.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you've saw on the other side
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: of the map, those Saint Mary's is just dominating everybody
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: three So so I don't know, No, not sure how
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: good they actually are yet we'll see.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna get to today.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Let's do it because this is the beginning, and I'm
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna maybe call it the off season. It's
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: not the off season because we're in a ballgame, but
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: it is the off season. The off season, guys, I'm
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: just saying, get used to all of this news and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: moving parts. It's just gonna become a thing at every
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: spot of college football. That's just the way it is now.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: It's fast paced. People are gonna react to it, people
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: are gonna judge on it. Your emotions are gonna ship
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: very quickly. Coaches are not gonna get five years to
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: build up a program anymore. It's not gonna happen that.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: The money is flying around in circles everywhere, players, coaches,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: nil stadium rebuilds, all sorts of stuff. It's becoming a
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: professional industry slowly as we speak. So just expect this stuff.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: But it's fun to talk about, fun to react to.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: You don't normally hear this. Bigger news break so quickly
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: and are just gonna keep coming. So anyways, Monday morning,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and I also, I'm gonna say this a little ashamed
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: of it, but both news that broke today, I didn't
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: know it happened until I got the text from Dak
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: whoa and that said big news. And then that's when
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I logged onto my Twitter and boomed there it all lives.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: So Dak, I think you were like when you were
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: within the for twenty minutes on both of them. I
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: believe from when they broke on Twitter.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got somebody who sends me husker stuff like
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: on the dot right when it comes out. And that's
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: why I saw that pretty instantly.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Who is that bo.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Like on the like like the tweet was up for
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: it said less than a minute.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: It's funny that were travels.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: But Dak the true huse cafane of the group, I'm
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: seeing it right away. So Tony White gone gonzo to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Florida State kind of you know, when stuff like that breaks,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: it's like the rumor the source. It's like, is this
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: real source is real? And then all of a sudden,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: there's like six of them that are reporting and you're like, okay,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: it's confirmed to Florida State. I I haven't really read
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: it a whole lot. Have we seen a number dollar
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: number with it?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: No number, but it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Sounds yeah, it sounds like Florida State's willing to pay
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: their it. My understanding is from because I went on
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: to the Florida State subreddit to see what their fans
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: are saying. It's basically they can't afford to pay the buyout,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: so the institution's giving them money for their OC and
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: DC to try to like we would rather spend four
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: million dollars here than pay the forty five million dollars
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: to fire normal. So so there you go, probably top
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: five if I had to guess, because he's sitting at
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: number eleven right now or something like that.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: A lot of money obviously in that decision. We don't
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: know the dollar amount, but defensive coordinator position. And then
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: with that came Terrence Knight in our defensive line coach,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: which maybe I guess. The last thing I saw before
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: we started talking was that that's not confirmed yet, that
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Nebraska is still trying to pull some strings, maybe rename
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: his position title, maybe maybe DC, I don't know, but
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: trying to keep him here. So that may not be
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: official yet, but the the Tony White thing is for
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: sure official to Florida State as a defensive coordinator who
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: was two and ten this year. Mike Norvel, their head coach,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: obviously coming off an undefeated regular season last year, and
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: then this year like just complete, just horrible, to the
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: point where everybody's like, do you fire the guy after
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: going undefeated and then going to and ten? Like you said, Austin,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: they decide not to, but they bring in Tony White.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I maybe the reason is they're gonna let Norvel fail
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and let Tony White take over. That doesn't that the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: not We've always said this when it comes to coordinators
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and stuff like this on the podcast, Like, that's never
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: never a good healthy situation for a program. If you
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: have that set up and built that way, if you're
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: telling Tony White that already, it's not good because then
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Tony White is not going to try to do well,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: try to get Norbel fired and then get get put
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: in there. I don't know if that's the case that
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: could be, but I'm trying to justify it positively because
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: this Dak tell us, tell everybody what you told us.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: When you said it, it was just it was just
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: a kicking the nuts. Oh yeah, yep, That's exactly how
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I felt with it. I was pretty mad today. I was.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I was pretty fired up with it all. Not not
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: at Tony White.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: I'm just the entire situation, how the week, how from
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Friday to Monday, when I was just not happy about
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: anything Husk related specifically.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I had a good time otherwise, but Husker related.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: So bad.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: I have a like so, I mean I could see
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: it from Tony White, Hey, We're gonna make your top
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: five defensive coordinator by.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Based on salary.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: H you know, he's probably he's looking at our roster
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: being like, there's gonna be a huge turnover this year. Honestly,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: rules kind of he didn't throw the defense under the
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: bus and the postgame presser, but he was not. He's like,
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: defense has got to be better. It's like, you can't
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I understand the game of one play, but like, that's
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: not that's not the time to be like defense has
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: to be better when.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: They did not lose it.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: So he's probably a little missed off about that. And
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: then you probably as he's thinking, he's like, hey, man,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: if you're there and you have a little bit of
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: a track writer record of being a good coach and
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Norvelle's on the hot seat already, you probably think that
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: they might not have said that, but you're probably thinking
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: this could be a fast track to a Power five
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: head coaching job.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: So, yes, I agree that when it comes to Tony
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: White and looking at from his standpoint, there's some things
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: that have to happen. I think for you to take
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: this position or for you to believe or think we
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: at times throughout this year look at our defense, what
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: it's done we can. I think all agree that our
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: defense was much better than our offense. They had their moments,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: but they were much better. And we've had a very
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: strong defensive unit for the past two years. It's not been,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: you know, a top five unit in the country by
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: any means, but it's done very really well, like very
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: well game and that a large part of it is
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: because of Tony White. You know, it's of people kind
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: of laughingly joked but said Tony White could be the
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: head head coach anyways, talk about him becoming the head
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: coach somewhere else living there would be a game that
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: will give up a crap ton of points and they're like, Okay,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: he's not getting the head coaching job anywhere else.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: We can keep him.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: We extended his salary earlier in the year and gave
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: him an extension, gave him a raise, keep him here,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: or maybe that was before the year. I can't remember.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: The offseason.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Ye, So this guy's a good coach and we know
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: he's got a career ahead of him, but we wanted
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: to keep him. So we knew he potentially could leave,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: but not for a defensive coordinator, not a lateral move
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: to another program that is I'll say it's similar to
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Nebraska where they're struggling to climb back up. Now, Florida
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: State has climbed back up a couple of times since
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Nebraska has clearly because we haven't at all a lateral move.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: That.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things you can read
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: into that, and maybe a lot of it's just reading
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: too much into it, but that everybody has the right
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: to their opinion on the why. So I want to
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: break this down a little more than we are already.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Why do you leave a job?
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Any job?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not talking coaches, I'm talking any job that
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you are working for, whether it be what you were
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: doing in high school to college to where everybody's at
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: full time now, like why are people that are older
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: this Why do you leave a job? Like Dak named
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: some reasons, I'll start with you pay, Okay, pay is
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a big one. I agree work environment, your environment, yep,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Like if you're if you don't like the environment, the culture,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: whatever you want.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: To which I would add coworkers to that. Basically boss bo, Yeah.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: You don't like your boss, you're probably getting the heck
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: out of there.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Now Here's here's another one is and I don't know
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: if you guys. Location which I looked at before this.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: He is from Florida, so.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Yep, there's another one. There's location, right.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know if anything to do with it, but.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: That happens. A lot families get relocated because of location,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: like where they want to be Austome. You didn't give
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: any others. I got a few more that come to mind.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: It would my other My other big one was out
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: of those ones would probably be where you're told you.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Incorrect expectations. It's like, hey, we need you to do this,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and then you do it. They're like, well that's not
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: really what we need.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: Do you know what?
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I wuld you phrase that where or like, hey, this
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: is your role, but we end up having you do
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: all this stuff instead or overworking.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I was going to say your job function like function.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of what you're what you're talking about,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: like what you're doing and what you want to do.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Like if you're not doing what you want to do,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: then you're probably going to try to find something else.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I think those are all really good reasons, right, and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and what I when it comes to Tony White leaving,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I think you can go down all of those paths
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and say that potentially has a factor into it.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I would say that if I was Tony White and
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: my boss brings in Phil snow To over to look
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: at the defense to see what I'm doing incorrect, I
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: believe it's like, dude, I'm freaking carrying this team.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe he'd fixed the offense. I'd be pretty pissed too.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: So that piece right there, and that goes into kind
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: of dacks. I think that it's the big one. The culture,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the people, the environment that you're working in. You can
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: everybody can think what they want. They can you can
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: try to say it's the location, or it's the better pay.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Like Nebraska fans are going to justify it in that way.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: They are going to say, because we need to still
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: win that offseason national title this year. They are going
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: to say always getting paid more, we couldn't pay him
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: that much. Or he's from Florida so he wanted to
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: get back home, or wanted something, you wanted to do
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: something a little bit different once ahead job, Well, they're
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: going to justify it. Those things all could be true
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: to a certain extent, but I think it's very little.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I think Austin, to your point, what it's saying is
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Tony White did not see a future here. He was
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: frustrated with how he was being I'm gonna say he
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: was being bullieder are shunned, but he was getting a he.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Was getting a chunk of blame that he felt he
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: definitely should not be getting.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: He wasn't happy here he was He ended up being
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: not happy and did not see a future with Matt
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Ruhle in Nebraska. He didn't see it at least in
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the short term. And Tony White wants to be a
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: head coach, and I think that's pretty given. If he
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: thought his best path and if you're my rule, you've
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: been remaking it. The best path for him to become
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: a head coach was to be a defensive coordinator. Maybe
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: not this year, but next year or the year after.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Then he's staying here. But he didn't see that.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: His best path is on a winning team and the
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: defense is solid, and I feel like Florida State and
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: the ACC has a decent a better shot than Nebraska
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: is a big tenant.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Having a decent run to make like an ACC championship game.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: And winning games, and right like this team, they were
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: just undefeated the year before. You three and a. Our
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: defense plays the exact same, but our offense isn't just
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: a top fifty offense. Tony White's getting the head job
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: somewhere and his goals are achieved. But Tony White is
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: now looking at the situation.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: He's going, Huh, this is gonna be a longer process
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: than I anticipated.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: In my defense is doing pretty damn well, and we're
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: doing about everything we can. But there's nowhere he does
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: not see in his mind. He does not see a
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: way up for himself at Nebraska, where at Florida State
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: thinks there may be is and I don't I don't
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: know anything about Florida State. I don't know nothing about
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Norbel but Norvel still there. It's not like they're completely
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: restarting and he's getting a fresh start to prove No,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: like he's coming in to like also help save that program,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: is what he's trying to do. There's a good chance
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: for to State can be bad again next year. I mean,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: we don't know that. His job is to save them. Well,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: his job here is to save our program. He's saying,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I have exhausted myself and that was my other big one.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I kind of at a job when you feel like
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: when you feel like you've exhausted, not burned out, but
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you've exhausted the extent that you can do in a position.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: And I think that's a lot more in coaching. But
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: you've done everything you've can, everything that you know how
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: to do, and you're trying, you know, you try to learn,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: but the games are so marginal that you're like, I've
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: done what I can here and I've made an impact
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: on this program. I want to go do something else
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: because I can't do anything more with what I know
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: how to do. It's a little bit of a fixed mindset.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I get that a little bit, so you kind of
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: want a girl. But he he sees more opportunities at
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Florida State. Right then and there, this all gets announced
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: and especially to Terrence Knighton, and then who knows what
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: comes after that? Right The impact I think this has
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: in the players and what they when they look at that,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: especially the guys in the defense, but even guys in
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the offense, they go wow, like just think about a
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: big picture. This was our best coach on assistant coach
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: on the staff, Terrence Knighton, probably our second best assistant
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: coach on the staff, kind of talking pre data. Get
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the data here in a second, and our best coach says,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be here anymore because I want
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: to take a similar position somewhere else, of a similar
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: type of rule. What is that like? Think about what?
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: If you're a player, You're like what in the world?
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Like what? You almost want to go? What happened? Like
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: what happened between him and Rule? And now guess what?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: As a player, you start to question everything about the program,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: about the culture, the hard stuff that you're doing in practice,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: in the weight room, in the off season. You start wondering, man,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: if Tony White, if our best coach, assistant coach does
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: not see a future here, what does that tell us
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: about the entire program in general? And that was where
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: today I am like, Rules done, like his potential for
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: being for turning this program around and the place that
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: we want it to be, and not turning around winning
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: six or seven games every year, but actually moving us
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: towards a national or a playoff contender team every year.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna work. It's not. And I
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: want to say, do you fire him? Well? Maybe I
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: guess yeah, he don't, don't quit, don't waste time on
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: a guy that it's not gonna work here, don't don't
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: waste two or three more years and get rid of it,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: like do it, do it now in an environment. Now
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: you're gonna see it. You're gonna see it happen. Like,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: let's move on. If that's the case, that was me
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: like going down, and that was me being frustrated too.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: And and I'm not saying I'm completely away from that
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: thought now, but that's where I was at as of
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: one o'clock PM today. Yeah, I just I'm like, it's
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: like it's over. Like the best guy, the best coach,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: and all the players like they rules try and he
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: spoke that, he said the right things, He's tried to
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: explain everything. What else can you do though, if you're
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: not if you're not actually producing the outcome on the
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: field and you continue to lose one score game is
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: the way that we have as eventually you're done believing
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: again as a player. And after two or three years
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: is when you start to say, wandering question that honeymoon
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: phase is gone. It's gone now.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I agree with that.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Never it's now or never, So yeah, maybe this year,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think if this continues next
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: to your rules, not getting five years, it's not gonna happen.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: So maybe I guess you give him one more year
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and see what happens. But I just think it's gonna
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: be very bleak and very tough to do so because
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: of the way this all is going to impact and
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: we don't need This is the beginning of it, guys.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: We don't even know what's gonna happen in the portal
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: and all the players that it's going to continue to
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: be a mystery every year.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, I have a so here's my list.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: So White night but the big apparently, like I will
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: say this funny, you read some of the Husker posts,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: It's like, well, White's really not that good. You know,
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: the defense is pretty down the stretch when it needed
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: to be. You know, Nighting is really the bigger loss,
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: is a big recruiter. Blah blah blah. It's like, all right, guys,
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: you know, classic Husker fan mentality. Yeah, he wasn't that good.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: We don't need him.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Like I saw that too. Oh my god, it is
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: you said, classic hustler fandom. Well, Pony White's defense got
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: worse this year, so we really don't want him like,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: just get rid of him. He wasn't got great. We
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: could find someone better, Like you're a classic Husker fan mentality.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, so we've Butler's portal, Bayer's portal, Shaver's portal, Thompson's portal,
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Jackson's portal, Urban's portal, and they got Coleman and Schaffula
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: or whatever also portal.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: So I mean that was just today. And then you
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: have on top of that your defense.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: So I was looking at it, twelve of our top
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: fifteen leaders and tackles last year they're either in the
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: portal or they're graduating. So we have three people in
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: our top fifteen tacklers for the last for the whole
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: season coming back. Potentially that's some of the transfer portals
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: might pull their name, but I doubt it.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: That's the that's the worst part out losing the coach
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: nowadays is the portal because because this guy recruit either
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: recruited him or was coaching and through his whole career,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: well he leaves, you don't want another coach coming in
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: news system and everything. You're like, f that, I'm just
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: gonna go to different school. Like especially down players can
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: move so much. It just everyone everyone leaves, when a
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: coach leaves, that's that's the way it is now on
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: that side the ball.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: And here's the moving part to that. When you get
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: a new coach, depending on where you get him from,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: you might get players with him too. So there there
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: is that moving piece with it in the Crane reportal
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: of like, we've seen our basketball team new players and
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: new a new roster every year, especially this next year
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: when we have these roster limits too, so there's a
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: lot that goes with that. But I just think with
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: what we currently have, the guys that are staying or
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: the current program, it's just it's hard for me to
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: see have hope right now in a Matt rule, the
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Matt Rural era as the head coach. In the long term,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: it's very hard to see that vision. I'm not saying
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: it's completely gone, but there's very very little hope in
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: my mind left this as at one o'clock that is
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: left and we will hire a new DC. And that's
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Husker fan mentality again. We jumped already to all these
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: candidates and throwing names out there and this is who
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: we're getting, This who we should get, This is who
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: we should get. YadA YadA, YadA, And whenever this person's announced,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: and whoever this new person is and whoever's coaching it,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: they may bring players. We're gonna get un hyped. We're
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: gonna get back climbing up polls in the offseason, naty
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: titles like that's what we do. We will be excited
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and there will be hope, though, there will be rejuvenation.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I just want to remind everybody that this happened for
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: a reason, by our best coach leaving the program. It
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: happened he saw something. And I don't want people to say, oh,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: we don't we didn't want to be His defense wasn't
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: very good. No, our defense was damn good this year.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: It was very good. It was not again a top five,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: but like he's a top thirty. It was. It was
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a good defense. So that was one o'clock today and
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: very frustrated. Is very much like okay, it's done, Like
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: it's done for rule. Then Dak breaks the news again.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: More news Dana Holderson signed a two year contract as
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Was at less than an hour ago. Yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: a half ago.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: News is gonna be that dand of Hormison doesn't want
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Garrett McGuire on staff say that, and that's what their
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: sources are, that McGuire's out.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: That's promising.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I so okay, so Tony White gone, and I think
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: the doomsday scenario like that we've all kind of talked
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: about and laughed about, was like, okay, Matt rules days.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: But then Dana says, I'm out. So that was fun
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: for three games. I'm Gandhi, Tony White says, I'm gonna
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: go find a new job, and Matt Rules like left
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: on his island basically to rebuild it. All that was
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: kind of over my head was that I'm like, oh, boy, like,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: what are we gonna do. We're gonna wait another two
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: or three years to get Matt Matt Rule, try to
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: go round to base. What do we do with Scott Frost?
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: We kind of did the same thing. We let we
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: cleaned house coordinator wise, tried to bring new people in,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Mark Whipple tried to sling it around. Boy, That's what
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I was envisioning. But Dana now says, nope, I'm all in,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: give me two years. Let's do this thing.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Two years. How long Israela gonna be playing college football?
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Hopefully? Well? Yeah, maybe two more years. Three That brought
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: my hope, and I think it should. I don't think
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with this. Back to like, Okay, okay,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: let's see like Dana Dyanasy something Dynasy something, Tony White.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: They to see something. Dana is still new. There's that
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: sense of hope of maybe maybe maybe maybe we can
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: figure this out offensively. Defensively, we're going to figure something
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: completely different again. But offensively, maybe we have the time
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: and the coach that had success, and what I said before,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: we had Dana kind of has a weird, blant, straight
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to the point type of personality that I've said bodes
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: well for players. I think that works really well. And
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I think he mentioned as well as Dylan all the
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: things that we've talked about Dane before. I was like, Okay,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: maybe let's hang on to rule for now, see what
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: happens with Dana. But I got hope again a little bit.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, it's too like you look at the
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: defensive side, the number of seniors that we're leadingmber of
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: starters and impact players that were leaving regardless prior to
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: transfer portal, just people that you knew were going. You're like,
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: oh boy, defense is gonna be rough next year, defensive
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: corner dips. On the offensive side, it's like, well, we
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: got a really we got a couple of really good freshmen,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: like receivers Carter Nelson, we got Dylan Riola, we got
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: a couple of four star offensive linemen that.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Have been you know, in the wings that might be okay.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: And then we hired Holgerson and were like, yeah, we
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: think we think he's a good offensive coordinator.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: This it's just.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Two very different sides of the same football team, where
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: last year it was the exact opposite. W Our defense
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: is in great positions, gonna be young, and our offense
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: is full of old people that aren't playing well anyways.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's wild whatever whatever I mean.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I was looking up through next year's schedule. I was like, oh,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: it's not as bad as I thought it was gonna be.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty easy relatively speaking.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it is you but you look through
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: it's like, all right, we're gonna lose three starting offensive
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: line and we're losing Bouschini, We're losing our two top
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: wide receivers. We're losing it's you really hope that that
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: development mentality in year three is really gonna really gonna click.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: The rule has been preaching now going into the day.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: If you had to pick which one of those two
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: would you rather keep? Would you rather kept on the team,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Whelkerson or White?
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: With the fiery question, I'd say White.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: I've seen it, yeah, but Holgerson's done it everywhere too, well,
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: not everywhere, but a lot of places.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think as far as replacement like that,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: our offense has been so bad. Yeah, it probably still
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Tony White.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's probably easier to plug in an
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: OC from somewhere else, Like you can probably find it
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: up and coming offensive mind, but the defensive minds are
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: harder to find.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: I don't think if Bulgerson would left either, you wouldn't
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: have lost your whole offense like Tony White, the staff
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: with him, especially big ten football aways played. You want
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: your a good.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: DC, And I think there's gonna be people out there
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: that we're gonna get excited about.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna have to pay him?
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: What kind of I mean that you threw that name
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: out there?
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: We threw him.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I've heard uh Jim Leonard from that was Wisconsin.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: I heard uh.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Uh, Purdue coach.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Walters like, oh my god, do you want him?
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: He was, I mean he'd he built Illinois defense up
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: very fast and they're very very good. A couple of
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: years ago.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: One of the worst coaches I've ever seen.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I understand he was the head coach, not a coordinator.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: When it comes to coaches and coordinators, you gotta be
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: careful on how on on comparing the too, because especially
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: as a head coach now, you deal with so much
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: more to where you're not as I mean you can be,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: but you're not as ingrained and studying and being involved
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: in the in the defense, in the offense, and the
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: position like you are dealing with nil you're dealing with transperport,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: or you're dealing with all the conference of realignment. You're
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: dealing with a lot of crap. Some people think that's
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: why Dana maybe wants to be an o c because
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Dana is a is a crap like you want to
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: deal with that. He didn't he That's why people think
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: he may have failed as a head coach. Is he's
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: like he just all that stuff. It just he isn't
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: he wants to call plates, he wants as reminded of offense.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: That could be the same situation. I don't know. That's
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: the optimistic me giving my opinion, but that could be
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: it with a coach like that, And I think there's
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: other guys out there that will hear that we'll be
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: excited about when it's announced. The Dana thing, I think
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: is a sign that says he and then Rule they're
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: committed to getting this offense figured out. And I think
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: that gives again hope for well the bowl game, excitement
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: for the ball game. Now he's got how many practices
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: do you get for a ball game? Fifteen practices, So
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: we'll see what we can do there, and then moving
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: forward like it sounds like it's good. Now here's doomsday
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: me thinking coming back in is Dana signing this contract
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: with the thought of what we just talked about earlier.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: If it doesn't work out for a Rule, but our
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: offense is good, Dana becomes our next head coach. And
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: we mentioned that right when Dana came instility, is that
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: in the back of his mind and if so oh boy,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: like he talked about a culture and disaster and how
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: this all plays out, like we're in for some fun conversations,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: not saying that's the reason behind it. Don't know how
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: those contract negotiations happen, if it's rule, if it's coming
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: from even someone above and Troy Dannen and saying, here's
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: a situation, here's what we're doing. We don't know, we're
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: not We're not gonna know. Just interesting to think about.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, the offense just to play well enough that
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: you'd promote him to head coach, that's the thing.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: It's like they can't take the team.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: These acquired because then it's like, well, they're no good either,
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: why would we hire them?
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: You know, it's see so what's funny about that they do?
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: But what's if we go eight and four, nine and three,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: ten and two next year and our offense is we
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: said it this year in our offensive killer. People are
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: gonna want Dana to be our head coach?
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I know they wanted it after the Wisconsin Games.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so who knows. Gonna be weird whatever happens. I
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: think the big plus out of all this, guys that
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: we can't overlook is Dylan is going to be here.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Well I hope, good god, I hope gonna be here
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: next year. I think not that you can combine this
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: with this news of Dana getting extended, but I don't
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: think Dana does it. If he has any inkling that
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Dylan's not watch just be completely wrong on that and
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: breaking news like in two days. But I think that
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: is the big plus that comes with Dana's staying here
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: is he knows that he's confident in that. I don't
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: think Dana does it otherwise. I think he's very upfront
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: when it comes to that stuff. So after that, now
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: we're back of like, Okay, let's at least have a
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: little bit of hope. I'm not saying fire rule yet.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: I was there today at one pm. That's just the
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: world we live in, the emotions, the roller coaster. It's
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: gonna get worse every year. Oh by the way, Dak,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you're watching this Monday night game. Yeah,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: did you just see Jamis who he.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Threw it to? Nick Menita?
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Had a boy? You knew that an Oklahoma Oklahoma players
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: on the Bronco six.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Now, of course, of course the pick six.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: So I was curious, so I just looked it up.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: So it's one point two million annually for Holgerson, but
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: he's still getting paid out for Houston, right, so.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: That's the From what I understand is he's getting the
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: full Houston payout and the one point two is deducted
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: from it.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: So really, I don't understand why we Why didn't we
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: pay him that much?
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I don't. I don't know. I
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: don't know what the I agree like, he's almost gonna
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: pay him nothing. There might be some sort of agreement
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: that you have median salary or something.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: I bet, I bet that is what it is, Like
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: you can't if you're working in a similar position, it
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: has to have a similar salary to.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably true.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: Well, well it's for sure, guys, clear goal number one.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Like you said coming in the off season, keep keep
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: rolla here. You did lose now what you're running. My
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: situation is so Urban's gone.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Urban and Ramire are both gone, and the Johnson and
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: Dowdell are still here.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: And I get the Urban things tough, Like Urban's becoming
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: He's going to be a grad transfer for this upcoming season.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: So like, and yeah, Ramier and Dowdell play one somewhere
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: else they're solid, like five six out of ten. Emmett
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: looked pretty damn good. The last couple of games, so
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: that that's a positive. Our offensive line, who were losing
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: three guys, like Austin said, they played pretty well the
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: past few games.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Not so much you hate, but Ben Scott, who's pretty
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: freaking good.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I just think with all of this transfer portal stuff,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: and it's fun talking about there's just there's there's gonna
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: be so many moving parts with everybody right, and and
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I think the important thing is keeping the key pieces
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: that you're trying to build around, which Dac, like you said,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Dylan Royola is that key piece.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: If you're lifting out the people that you want to
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: make sure you keep. Barney Reola say, you're right, probably,
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, yep, James Williams, you know, I mean there's
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: probably the really only handful of guys that are like,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: these guys are.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Very important that we keep. Maybe Hertzog, maybe.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: It probably leaves your fuck it's over, Like I agree,
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: like that's the one key piece. If he leaves, I
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: think it's just completely program program.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: I agree like that. Yeah, you want to talk about
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: complete hope lost, which that was not out of the
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: question after this game on in my mind, after this
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: game on for on Friday, So sad, I'm just like,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: my god, it could all just fall apart, could be
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: done that I thought that it very much could be.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: And then you know, you start hearing Tony White and
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, yeah, like this is this is the
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: end of Matt rule and let's move on now, Dana
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Holgerson maybe save in the day. That's where That's where
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I'm at. That's where I ended my and my thoughts
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: here coming into the podcast. The roller coaster right now
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: of where we're at.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Well, but like you said, Holgers have not come back
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: if he didn't know r like, if you had any
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: feeling all Ryle is leaving even out of sign that.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: I think I agree.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: After my new was like, oh boy, well is going and.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: This ship is gonna said, oh here we go, Chris
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: Sam McEwan McGuire is respected to remain it and you
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: in an adjusted role.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: There, Nana's gonna have Dana's got some some demands that
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: he's gonna I mean, that's the way he is. He's
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: gonna have his demands on what he thinks needs to
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: happen with his offense. That there's there's no doubt about that.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: I have no doubt that that's what's that's gonna happen.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: So I do, like, let's just see what those are.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: We're gonna there's gonna be a lot before the ball game.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that the time we live in.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Players in the transfer portal can play in the ball game.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: So that does help because I was like, man, that
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a rough shake if the people in
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: the transfer portal could play it.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: It makes it really interesting that all these moving parts
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: and what players think of it all because it's so different,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: it's so new, it's so fresh, Like what what do
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: you think of a teammate that's leaving but once to
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: still play? What does that mean?
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I bet? I honestly bet.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: If I was mad rule and you enter the transfer
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: portal and I don't think you're coming back, I'm not
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: playing you in the goal game.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Do you not play them like? Or is it going
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: to become such a common thing, because again, when you
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: enter the transfer portal does not mean you've left. It
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: just means you entered the portal to where you're opening
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: up your options. That's all that means. As of right now,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know the stat I want to say, it's
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: at least two thirds ish of people that enter end
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: up going somewhere, and one third actually didn't come back
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: and stay. Now that that goes all from big name
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: to really small names in the portal. So I don't know,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: like or is it just a common thing that players
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: are like okay, like everybody kind of just does it
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: because you do that, because you open up your options,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: because you know that you have like.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: A two week window to declare or something like there's
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: a there's a time period of when you have to
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: declare you're in the transfer portal.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: It's and it's like opening up your your your bid
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: for who for nil too? Like that's kind of what
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: it is, is can I get paid more money? And
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: and this year's even more than last year, more than
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: the year before. The opportunities that are out there. You're
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: opening up free agency every year kind of and saying, Okay,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: what can I get? Like where are we at? What
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: program can pay me money?
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: How?
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: What's my value? You know, what's my value as a
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: player monetary wise? And then these college kids are gonna
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: be able to make the decision, Okay, do I want
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: to make four hundred thousand here? Do I want to
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: make three hundred thousand at this program, knowing that your
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: position and where you're gonna play, all that stuff is
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: factored in now. It's it's fascinating. Like you talk about
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: why you leave for a job, Well, it's kind of
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: what these players are doing to you. Guys. It's very
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: similar those all those things we talked about, well not
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: too long ago. Players are They're all evaluating the culture,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: the program, the future, the people around you, the location,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: the dollar, the money you're getting paid, the function, the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: role that you're going to play. All of that is
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: what's going through these players' minds as they're making these decisions.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: As I guess you call him young adults and maybe
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: not quite young adults yet a lot of them aren't.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: They're still kids.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: We lost man, all right, Dak What you got on
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: the transfer portal?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, on your list of people
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: you should keep very high, should be John Holme?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Whoa he missed about it was a bad stack.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, I that kick is now on him.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: You're right, that's interesting. You think he's that good? Do
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: you think he's fixed it?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: I think yeah, Well, how long has beence you've had
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: a kick or where he comes out your company's gonna
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: make kick, Like towards the end of the year, you
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: weren't worried about missing it.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: I mean when he missed the Fielgeal, I was surprised
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: and then he saw a snap. I mean it's probably
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: been since not Drew Brown. Yeah, there's someone.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: He's kicker of the year, was Big ten kicker of
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: the year, and the next year he was dogs.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: Off the map.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're special. Now you said machine's gone.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Machine's gone, which honestly.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: Is not that bad of it.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Like he loved having every like ten to fifteen kicks
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: just wrap the edge his foot.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: I mean in the Iowa game too, that are pretty rough.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not that big of a loss. I don't.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: I think you'll lose a lot of players, but really,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, you're six and six. It's like,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: how much are you losing?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: Right? You mean?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Gat it right back?
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: And that's what like people online are always like like
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: I gotta get rid of the people to losing mentality.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's necessarily true, but I mean
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: you're if the argument is is we're losing people and
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: we haven't won with them losing, right, what are you
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: really losing?
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Can their replacement do the same. I mean, I do
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: feel pretty good about the young players we have. I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: don't know. I was somewhere between Hunter where I wasn't ready.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't even think about firing that role. I don't
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: know how he got that close to that.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: This morning I got that dark.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: But you.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Can't.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: You can't fire him on the spot after your DC leaves,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: like you gotta give him this third year. And what
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: I've heard a lot of Husker fans say is the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: senior class that's leaving now is Scott Frost last one
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: that had losing mentality. So we'll see they had them leave,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: they'll change the team.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Hold on. Hunter just said accept the new Oh no,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: I I agree. I think Huskar fancy to chill back out.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: It was a sad.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: It was a sad.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: I mean the four days, it was just a rough
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: four days, including today. I didn't I did not get
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: the same joy as the whole person hire as apparently
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: you and Hunter, because I don't know.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: I think he's okay.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: I just thought because he changed the how quickly he
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: changed the offense. I came in I don't think it's
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: like a home run higher but how quickly he came
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: and changed the offense you obviously know something like and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: and if he could do that in two games, man
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: as we could do in a full year like I
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: also think. I also think that just shows how bad
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Hourfield is. So at least you don't have him back
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: on that well all about beer? Is that guy still
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: on your coaching staff?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: He is still on the coaching staff.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: No ship, he's staying. Yes, why is he? Craig can't
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: get a job anywhere else. I can't believe that he
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: gets the moaning. He's like, I'm good, just say especially
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: see him on Olgerson day. All right, Well, I.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Mean how do you keep him?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, you obviously restructure his contract and you keep
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: him as the tight ends coach. You move him to
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: the tight ends wide receiver and Garrett McGuire becomes a consultant,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: or not a consultant, but an analyst as offensive analyst.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: It seems kind of funky to have your former oc
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: on staff.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: He just can't he's but he just can't get a
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: job anywhere else.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: He sucks.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: But I can't stand that guy.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: He was pretty bad. I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: Well, you want Hunter back on anyone called a pod?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like we got it. I sent him
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: the link. He's got to be able to hop back,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: you can. I can't imagine he won't be able to
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: hop back on. Here we go. We'll see if he
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: actually is able to hop back on. I don't know
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: what else he had to say.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: I don't either. I'm I'm the only thing I can
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: think of it is we we could switch the basketball
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: team real quick.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: It was good.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: What what the hell has happened the last Okay, that's
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: a siegon, but everyone else is scoring too? Like from
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: that first game he Hunter went to, I don't know
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: what has gotten that was they looked terrible that well,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: their defense look good, their offense looked awful that first game.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's changed.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: I thought we were going to be cooked this year.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: I really did Dune Cookman game for sure. I was like, yeah,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: you ain't scoring over you're telling me these four hundred points.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: I'd say, you're lying like and I and they figured
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: out how to use Uh Maya is that the big
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: man's name?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Uh Bandmill? Is that you're talking about?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: The seven three guy. Yeah, yeah, they figured out how
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: to use him on offense, because for what do you
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: go three games, I think a shot, which there's no
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: reason why I should take a shot anywhere besides the dunk.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Like I mean, yeah, you start to look through like
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: our one losses Saint Mary's by three.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Points and killing people.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've been killing people, And I mean you
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: start looking through our schedule and it's like, right now,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: the only ranked opponents I guess towards the end of
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: the year we have Wisconsin, Illinois, Oregon Perdue.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: But that's four ranked opponents. Like it seems pretty stun
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: with the ball.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think. I didn't think they're Their schedule
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: looks too bad. Now we will see how good they
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: are coming out of these next two games. Big ten play.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Michigan State, I don't even know if they're good
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: But like we said, though their non com was easy, Yeah,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: we didn't expect to create we ought we for sure.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: I didn't want you expect those Saint Mary Crane game
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: because those were two you could lose. I thought, ohing too,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: But you weren't expecting one on one out of that.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: I see take that And now Big ten play. I
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: guess you'll see how it is.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Well any closing Oklahoma thoughts Hunter's not here,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: you can say whatever you want.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: A Yeah, they got pounded by LSU. I put some
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: money on that. Oh, forgot to tell you about this.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Saturday is the last game. I bet three and a half.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: Went to bed thinking because I thought I bet three,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: went to bed think. Oh, I pushed welcome next morning,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: checked my account one So that was nice. So my
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: mood changed on that game pretty quick. But then I I,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Oklahoma got pounded by l SU. That was terrible. What
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: a It's just like Nebraska, what a kick to the
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: dick after after it's like the Braska beats Wisconsin. You
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: do that because we beat Alabama and then just get
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: pounded by l s U. I don't get it.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: They're gonna bring Vannables back because the same thing like
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Florist State, the buyout. I don't know how these places
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: say they're broke like whatever, but they're gonna bring them back.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: They just hired no new oc today from Washington State,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: which is what the Venables would be a hell of
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: higher for Nebraska.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: They got in d C.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: He's really good at defense offense?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Do you want to bring in an outside person? Probably,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: I guess, But.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: For for DC, no, you don't. I would keep venables
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: as Oh you know you mean Nebraska.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: You're not firing Ga fired this year. He's saying like he's.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: Staying like rule is. I think you gotta get the offense.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: Figure that he's one of the worst offensive coordinates nation.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he stands a good offense. I like their offensive coordinator.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. Hire a lot quarterbacks is a
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: different story. Well, that's that's an effical wan to talk.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: It's it's shitty basketball team, the Rocks.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: I don't even get in the bulk home basketball.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: But all right, I think we're gonna wrap it up
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: with that Hunter. So all right, we'll talk wednesday.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: I assume we'll go over conference championship games, maybe some
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: more pre offseason talk.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: That's good for me.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: GBR go big grad Boomers sooner.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Wow, you said it without Hunter here, congrats?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Yep, I guess.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: All right, all right, dad
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: Sh