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Learn to Maximize Your Leadership Performance with Betska K-Burr · Authentic Living

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Welcome to authentic living with Roxanne, a place where we have as conversations about
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things that really matter in our lives.
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And now here's your host, Roxanne Derhodge.
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Hello, everyone.
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It's Roxanne Derhodge again with Authentic Living with Roxanne.
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Thanks for tuning in again today.
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Today, I have a colleague that I recently met but I feel like I know quite well, we seem to
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have a real, synergistic kind of, meeting earlier at what was about a week ago, and so
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Betzka is has come to us with a space that I truly think you need to experience what I
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experience.
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So that's good.
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Thanks so much for coming on today.
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My pleasure.
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Thank you for having me.
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Oh, that's good.
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I'm gonna tell you a little bit about Betzka and, I'm probably not gonna do her bio, you
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know, the service that you can, when you are able to read it, but I'll tell you a little bit
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about her.
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So Betso Bettska K BER is the developer of science science of Mind Kinetics.
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It's a coaching system.
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And it was developed out against originated in 2019 1920 20.
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She was named the top 1 one of the top 100 global management consultants.
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She's a credited master coach, and with the IEP C and M and ACC and ICF.
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She has a lot done a lot of amazing things.
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She's written multiple books, and has been a Canadian bestseller to many books, including
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creating champions, flying by the seat of your pants.
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And other than that, on a personal end, which she you know, she enjoys an amazing life with
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her husband, John and daughter, Tanya.
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And she loves gardening.
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We were just talking about that before we start to chat.
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I could probably learn a thing too from you, Batska, there.
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She loves to hike and create healthy vegan food.
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Yum.
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And, she has one weakness.
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There must be one, and it's just the best thing possible, which is dark
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chocolate.
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Right on.
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So, Besca, you know, obviously, You have elated where you have landed for a reason.
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And I I I just kinda like you to kinda share that path and bring us up to speed where you
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created this amazing, coaching system that I'd love to hear a little bit more about.
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And I'm sure a lot of the people listening would all like to hear the same.
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Wonderful.
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Let me just say, I'd I'd like to tell my story because I I think people will really relate to
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the story.
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And, but before I do that, I just would like to share that Mind Kinetics is a system that finds
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the root cause of our cellular shutdown and then quickly opens the gate for cellular
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recovery.
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So, in essence, we have between 50, a100,000,000,000,000 cells in our body.
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Some cells look after our kidneys, liver, eyesight, hearing, etcetera.
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And the majority of them look after our thoughts.
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A lot of people don't know that.
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And so if we're having difficulty if we're a manager and we're having difficulty
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communicating with our staff or, you know, we're having husband and wife issues at home in
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terms of communication or whatever the case is, then that means that the receptor is sitting on
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the cells in charge of that issue have become constricted because of some emotional events
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from the past.
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Candice Perth, god bless her was a neuroscientist.
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She has passed but she was the first person to really bring the science into the the the
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foreground.
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And So we have developed over 80 methodologies here that allow us to take a client into the
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subconscious mind, for example, because that's where the action is.
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Right?
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The subconscious mind is where all of our negative habits, negative thoughts, patterns
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are storage as well as they're positive ones.
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Mhmm.
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So we wanna know what those positive ones are so that we can you know, amplify them, make
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them stronger, and we wanna know what those negative thoughts are.
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And Get rid of them.
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We want to flip the negative thoughts, our fears, our negative beliefs about self and
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others, flip them into a positive, and it's done at that subconscious level.
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And to show you the power of mind kinetics, within 5 seconds, seconds, not minutes.
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Seconds, we can take a client into their subconscious mind and find the root cause age
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of when that receptor shut down.
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We don't know of any other system in on the planet that can do that.
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Now let me tell you my story.
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Our daughter had just been born, and I became bankrupt emotionally, intellectually,
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spiritually, and physically.
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Thank god.
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We didn't go bankrupt the, financially because that would have been the last straw.
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And I searched and I searched for someone to help me.
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My went to see my medical doctor several times.
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What was happening was my brain became fuzzy, and I'm a corporate executive by training.
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Right?
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My brain became fuzzy, and I got a lot of pain in my lower back.
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And I thought, What is this?
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I'm a healthy person.
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Why is this happening to me?
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So I went to see my family doctor, and she did all the tests known to mankind, humankind at
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the time.
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And, she said, there's nothing wrong with you, Betsy.
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I said, what do you mean?
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There's nothing wrong with me.
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You know, my brain is fuzzy.
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I can't think properly.
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And my lower back, I could barely get out of a chair, Roxanne.
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The pain was so great.
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You know, I oh, I felt like ninety year old grandmother.
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You know?
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And, so I so I said, okay.
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If they're nothing wrong with me physically that what else do I do?
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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And she said, well, I'll I'll give you some tranquilizer That's what they called
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antidepressants in those days.
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I said heavens.
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No.
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I'm not gonna take any of that stuff.
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My brain's already fried.
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You wanna fry it some more?
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You know?
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I'm helping you out in the right direction.
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No.
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And she recommended a therapist.
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She found a therapist who would help me, maybe with some of this stuff.
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She said it was not depression.
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She didn't think it was postpartum depression or anything.
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There was something else going on.
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So, the therapist didn't feel right to me.
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Just for whatever reason, you know, how you have an affinity with some people and other
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people, you don't.
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With this one, no.
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Didn't work.
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And, so I went out on my own to find solutions.
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And I had I engaged in Chiaxu massage, acupuncture, ayurvedic medicine, all kind,
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anything.
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In that realm, different types of massages.
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And I was very grateful to those modalities because they kept me at least afloat you know,
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not sinking further into whatever was going on.
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For 2 years, I did that.
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And then a friend of mine who was an artist Ken Jackson from London, Ontario.
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He called me up one day and he said, that's good.
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I have met a lady I did a workshop on the weekend, and I think you need to meet her.
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Her name was Jan Sweeney.
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And I said, okay.
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I trusted Ken.
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So I called Jan up and arranged to have a one on one session with her.
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And she called herself.
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Now that I look back, she was a coach, you know, like a mine kinetics coach.
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But she called herself a facilitator of stress elimination.
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A lot of title.
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Long title.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Definitely.
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So I had the first session and noticed the difference.
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The second session.
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Wow.
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After the 3rd session, she ident helped me identify the biggest boulder sitting on my
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shoulder, creating all this pain for me.
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And stopping me from moving forward.
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And it had it was buried in the subconscious mind.
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So I tell you Roxanne, it was the doorway I was looking for.
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It was the window I was looking for to change my life.
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And, so I said to her, Dan, can you teach me how to do this stuff?
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Like, looks like anybody can do it.
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And she said, yep.
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I have a course starting in a month.
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Sign up.
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So I signed up, and she taught me and us, 2 or 3 simple, subconscious tools.
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I practice them on myself when our, Tanya, our daughter was in bed and John was a sleep as
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well.
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I would self coach for an hour a half to 2 hours every night until Jan told me to stop
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doing it.
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I was processing in the subconscious mind too much.
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So I cut it back to 5 days instead of 7 days.
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But the stuff that I found, Barry, you see, I was abused as a child.
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Right?
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I had, sexual abuse from a couple of men, including a village priest, believe it or not,
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I also, had emotional and spiritual abuse from from family members and from, corporate leaders
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who were men.
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And so all of that was raising its ugly head.
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I needed to deal with it.
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And if you're familiar with the work doctor Christian Northrop?
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Yes.
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Amazing woman, right, MD.
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She said in one of her first book, that if we don't get rid of a lot of these negative
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thoughts we have about ourselves and others, the any trauma that we that has happened to us
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in our lifetime.
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For women, our menopause is gonna be a living hell.
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Right?
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And then, of course, now I know it applies to men as well.
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Right?
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Andrew Pause, is that what it's called in men?
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Yeah.
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Oh, is that what it is?
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There you go.
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There's a term for it because they say that we they often thought that men weren't going
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through it, but in fact, there is a shift that maybe maybe it's not as pronounced as with
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women, but there is, in fact, a a stage of men go through the same kind of, shifts hormonally.
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So, a a n d r a, Andrea Pause?
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I'm not I'm not sure it's an o I'm not sure of the spelling, but yeah, but I'm sure if you put
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it in.
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I'll find it.
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Yeah.
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Find it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So That I worked on myself, and I found so many negative thoughts and beliefs and fears huge
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fear sitting in my subconscious mind that were affecting my physical body and affecting my
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brain.
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Right?
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And, so I kept working and working and working on myself.
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And the next part of the story is quite interesting.
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Because Jan was there for the 1st 2 or 3 years.
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She suggested I have another teacher, which I'll talk about in a moment as well.
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So I kept working and working on myself to, toss out these negative beliefs about myself
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and others just all the trauma that comes with life sometimes, you know, and it was working.
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It was so wonderful.
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The freedom to not have all this garbage sitting in my head, right, or in myself.
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And it myself.
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And so, eventually, Jan told me you are ready for a new teacher.
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Very smart when a teacher can tell you that you're ready for another teacher.
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That's when you know it's a true teacher because they They know what what they are meant
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to teach you.
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And then when they, they need to pass you off to where you need to be.
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That's right.
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Yeah.
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She was one of those Roxanne.
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She was I I wish she hadn't gone to heaven so early because so many times after that, I wish
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I I could have contacted her and said, hi or, you know, just have another session or
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something, right, because but, she knew that I needed to go with another teacher.
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And I said, okay.
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Well, who is this new teacher?
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Like, Who's this new person?
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And she very clearly told me who it was.
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It was Supreme master Ching Hai.
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And I said, what's a Qinghai?
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Right?
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Never never heard of that.
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And she said, it means oceans of love.
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Oh, Hey.
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That sounds good to me.
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And, where do I find this teacher?
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I thought we were living in Ottawa at the time in Stitzville, Ontario, see.
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And I thought I could just go knock on this woman's door and say hi.
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Right?
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She said, no.
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No.
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She's an international teacher, actually, spiritual Master, and, she has centers all
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around the world fully enlightened.
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And that's where you need to be.
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You need to learn her meditation.
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And so I trusted Jan, and It's a little cute story because she says you order the book
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first.
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She has many free books, and you order 1 this one little Key of immediate enlightenment.
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So I ordered the key of immediate enlightenment, and Jan warned me, she said,
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when you receive the book, if you open it, chances are you're gonna go vegetarian.
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I said, oh my god.
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I can't do that.
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My husband loves his t bone steak, right, a little bit of vegetable on the side is beef
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burgers, you know, no.
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I can't, you know, I can't do this to my husband, right, because I'm the the cookin, the
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family.
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So But I something inside me said, no.
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I need to engage with this teacher.
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So I ordered the book And when it came in the mail and it took forever to come.
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I think the master was already working on me on the inside.
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Right?
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And so I got the book and I knew I could see the address and I took it out of the envelope
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and I immediately put it on myself because Jan said if you open the book, chances are you're
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gonna go vegetarian?
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Well, Roxanne, 2 weeks later without even opening the book, I went vegetarian.
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That's the power of a living master.
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Right?
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So, my husband was in Portugal visiting his mom and he came home.
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And I said to him, honey, I'm I'm going vegetarian.
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And but I said I'll continue to cook chicken and fish for you.
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And we weren't eating red meat at the time, at that stage because natural path told me that I
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needed to stop eating red meat that it was not good for me.
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So I did.
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Anyway, John said, oh, no.
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We'll continue to eat whatever you whatever you wanna cook.
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So god bless you.
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What a man.
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Right?
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What incredible support making this very long story, hopefully shorter.
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I started meditation 30:30 minutes a day in 1997, February of 1997.
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And then in June, the same year, I got initiated into the quan yin method of
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meditation, which is 2 a half hours minimum a day.
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And it was a commitment, and it was very difficult to start with, but I've been doing it
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ever since.
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And here's the story.
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Here's the beautiful part of the story is the master says that when you get initiated and you
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put in that amount of meditation time, your gifts from god will come to you.
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And I had no idea what that gift was going to be, but all of a sudden, I started developing
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mine kinetics.
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And I had no idea that it was being we're gonna call it mine kinetics to the point where now we
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have 80 different methodologies is a coaching system that is so pure because it came from my
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meditation and very extremely powerful.
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It is not like your, you asked me, how is it different?
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Well, most coaching methods on the planet are working with the left hemisphere, the
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analytical part of us.
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You know?
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So you just go into your studying your time mastery or how good of a strategic planner are
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you or how good of a communicator you are and so on.
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Mind Kinetics takes you into you take a look at not only your intellectual roadblocks, and your
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physical roadblocks to achieving a goal or overcoming a challenge, you go into your
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emotional and spiritual roadblocks.
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In your experience, Roxanne, when you look at those 4 types of roadblocks, where are the
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biggest ones?
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Well, it's generally the ones that I say that are sneaky and they're all and emotional.
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Right?
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There are little buggers that sit below the the surface, and you think you're like, got it all
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figured out.
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And these are the ones that are trapping you and you're not aware that it's trapping you
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until you're ready on earth it.
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Yes.
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That's it.
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And because they are they are buried.
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And then, of course, we have many people who, they have buried all of their fears and beliefs
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and so on in the conscious mind.
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They don't even know they exist.
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Mhmm.
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And then in terms of emotions, they have difficulty even expressing emotion.
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And it's not just men.
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You know, we say that men have difficulty.
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Many left brain women have difficulty expressing emotions So when we coach, we have
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an we have a feelings chart, and it has 50, unconstructive feelings and 50 constructive or
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positive feelings so that the client gets a chance to look at both sides.
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And and they they suddenly have a vocabulary for Right?
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Mhmm.
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If they if they if feelings were ignored in the family when they were growing up or feelings
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are ignored in the workplace, then, it's very valuable for them to work with someone like you
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or me or any of our coaches to unleash that because, think we started the conversation
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before the recording went on that when you bury these emotions, they can cause disease like
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cancer, we know is an emotional disease.
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I say that they say that the primary, emotion associated with it is anger, And because the
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immune system flows throughout, you know, that if you look at a lot of people or people that
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cannot say no, right?
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The people that that's continually silence their voice because of whatever, like, you
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talked a little bit about trauma, but, of course, that's in working and having one of
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those specialties in my in my, clinical practice, that was oftentimes what happened
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because, of course, the child under five potentially, you know, is still developing and
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then learning that their voice is not valuable.
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And then they tuck that away somewhere and then they become, you know, adult versions of
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themselves carrying those, those hidden messages.
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Wow.
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Yes.
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Absolutely.
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And, you know, when I started applying for corporate contracts, not only for me, but for
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our own coaches.
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I was getting so many leaders signing up for Mind Kinetics.
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And so I I finally decided to ask him, well, why did you want to work with me instead of
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you've got a roster of 70 different coach is.
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Mhmm.
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You know, why did you wanna work with me?
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And they they said something very interesting.
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It shows you how leaders many leaders are so advanced in their thinking.
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Right?
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They're they're so smart.
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They're there for a reason.
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But the the response they gave me was Well, that's good.
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When I looked at all the other coaches, they they do boardroom coaching only.
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Or they just do logical left brain stuff.
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You're telling me.
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You're gonna take me into my subconscious mind to find what is buried there.
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What is my programming as a leader?
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Mhmm.
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My negative and my positive programming.
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And then you said you're gonna take me into my super conscious to find immediate solutions to
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my challenges.
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And they said it's a no brainer.
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Would I wanna do just logical left brain coaching when for the same dollar I can get all
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of this So I found I was so happy for them that they wanted.
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And again, it shows me the consciousness of many leaders today.
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They again, I I've coached, you know, leaders, a leader of our national political party.
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I have co royalty.
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I have coached assistant deputy ministers and deputy ministers in provincial governments and
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young children and families, you know, I I love the diversity of of of the work that we do.
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So happy that this law of attraction works because this one executive, who has been on
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antidepressants, actually, 3.
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No, 2, 2, antidepressants.
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1 is Prozac and its strength.
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So you know how strong these things are.
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And, she from the stress in her job or whatever it was, stress in her personal life ended up
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addicted to, and the addiction to the pharmaceuticals is one thing, but she was
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addicted to gambling, addicted to alcohol and, sexual abuse.
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Okay.
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Kind of interesting.
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You know, and these are this is what's hidden in the corporate world.
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Right?
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And she had tried for 30 years 30 years.
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She had tried therapy and was getting worse.
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And she had tried all kinds of modalities, and it was being worse.
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They kept increasing the strength of her antidepressants.
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That's all they would do.
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So wonderful working with this woman.
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Once she connected to the emotions that were buried, once she connected to the negative
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beliefs she has about herself and about others.
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She was able to drop her gambling addiction and was able to connect with her spirit.
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With the love.
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When we talk about spirituality in the workplace, you know, people think, oh, it's
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it's about, you know, some religious order or something.
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No.
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It's I mean, if you wanna talk religion, we're here.
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Many times, my leader clients teach me about, Hinduism Christianity and Janism and, you know,
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whatever.
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Right?
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I learned from them.
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They they they are the experts in their own religion.
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But spirituality to me means really loving self and really loving others.
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And so that's what happened to this woman, and and it changed her life.
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And another corporate leader, was getting very frustrated with the men in her organization who
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were incredibly abusive, emotionally and intellectually.
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And physically from the perspective of, she was very worthy.
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This woman was incredibly brilliant, and that's probably why they kept refusing to promote her.
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Because she was a threat to them.
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Right?
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Have you seen that in your practice?
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Oh, absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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Because you see, you know, and potentially, you know, in, unfortunately, in some corporate,
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environments, females believe that they have to display a certain quality to, to go ahead.
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And I know when I was an executive at those boardrooms, that was the element.
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And I think sometimes when you talk about some of the clearing and that permission that women
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have now been given to be more collaborative versus kind of, autocratic, there's that
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opening to just be more of yourself in the the strength that you have.
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But sometimes, yeah, you women get into that scenarios and they get perceived a certain way,
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and then they can't shift.
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That's right.
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Yeah.
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For some reason, I I I could just see how potentially, let's think about it.
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It was one, with trauma.
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Let's to bring that up.
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And I think most of us have been through things in our life to have lived means you've been
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through pain.
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And if if we're seeing that a lot of, you know, potentially leaders, Some of them, maybe they
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get the term assistance and they get through what they need to.
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If there's 1 in 6, say, boys that have been through some of type of trauma and 1 of the 3
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girls in in Yeah.
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Yeah.
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A lot of people that
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are walking around potentially high functioning individuals that are still, holding on to their
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traumas.
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And they put them into boardrooms and then how does that play through?
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Right?
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Thank you.
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And, you know, it's my experience that No.
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I I talked about my trauma, sexual abuse, etcetera, and and and not being promoted and
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and and so on.
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But trauma can be small traumas, you know, like in in elementary school, there was this, young
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man who was a little slow intellectually.
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He got the biggest kick out of sneaking behind me blowing up a paper bag and and smashing it
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behind my head.
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Right?
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And if I was concentrating on something, I'm not expecting this paper bag being being blown
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up.
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And, I remember doing a lot of clearing on myself on that because I'm thinking, why would
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this person do this to me?
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You know?
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Like, what's he what what's the jolly he's getting out of that?
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And and it could also be trauma, you know, with women not being listened to.
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The workplace.
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Right?
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Women are brilliant.
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In fact, we know that women have a 1 or 2% higher noble quality, which means the ability
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to listen, the darcher, and so on.
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And if we had time, I I'd tell you a story there too.
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So there are many, many reasons, maybe the father and mother like, my father refused to
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let me complete university because he said, Ukrainian girls just get married and have kids.
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Right?
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So
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In that time, that was the norm.
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Yeah.
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That was the norm.
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Yeah.
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So I think I what I what I, you know, oftentimes you'll hear a lot of people talking
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about executive coaching and they talk about, you know, state presence, stale, I remember the
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first executive coach I got probably in my twenties, and I were, you know, because I I
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knew I wanted to to shift off and do certain things.
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And, you know, at times, you know, I'm, you know, twenty five year old young female trying
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to do certain things, and I would you know, get emotional.
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And I would, I remember distinctly him saying, stay present.
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This is about the goals.
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This is about where you're gonna go next.
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These are about the steps.
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And I remember feeling that thinking, well, if I've got these things coming up for me, it may
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not be that it was anything big, but I needed to be able to share that.
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And now that I you're talking about what you you're talking about and what I've done as a
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psychotherapist, to facilitate a space to have people ready sit and and really kind of
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understand if there's a same pattern over and over again that there's some precipitating
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factor that's keeping them tethered to that.
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Mhmm.
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Right?
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But often as an executive coaching, we think, oh, no.
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No.
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Let's not touch that.
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You know, because that's, like, that's therapy.
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But, really, we bring our beliefs and our assumptions with us And there's must be a way
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to, to lift it so it doesn't become, you know, kinda, you know, Like, voodoo.
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It doesn't have to be voodoo.
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Yeah.
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That's right.
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Mhmm.
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Yeah.
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And and and so these 80 methodologies, 80 plus methodologies, have each one has a different
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frequency, a different vibration, and therefore, a different rule.
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So some of your viewers might want to go to triplew.brainwalk.com.
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It's free of charge.
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And they can go into their own subconscious mind and address a fear or whatever's coming up
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for them and kick it right, and come up with a solution from their super conscious in less
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than 15 minutes.
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That's really cool.
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Right?
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So we offer some of those free things to the world, free methodologies.
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And then we have methodologies on one's called relationship with self And that, you know,
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that, what you just said reminded me that relation when we really need to have strong
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relationships with ourself.
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We need to love ourselves.
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We need to accept ourselves We need to respect ourselves.
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We need to have integrity with ourselves.
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You know?
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Here at CLI, we've got, We work with values cards.
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Some people call them virtues, and we use these to go into the subconscious mind to find out
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Well, what that what is that negative belief that's lurking there?
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What is that negative characteristic that I dislike about myself on the subconscious level?
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Of course, we do a lot of it on the conscious level because, you know, people are smart.
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They know exactly what characteristic they don't like about themselves.
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But when they go into the subconscious, they go, oh my god.
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It goes so much deeper.
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Yeah?
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So we have tools for relationship itself to to turn their negative characteristics into
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positive ones for them.
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We have we we help them find positive characteristics and traits that they can
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amplify, make even stronger.
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And that's what we really need right now with COVID.
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We need people to really get rid of their fears because the the when I meditate, I feel those
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fears all around the planet.
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And then also, you know, the positive ones, we have to really address the positive, attributes
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of humans because we're someone I when we were watching the Oscars last night, this woman who
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got an award, she said, we are no longer humans.
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I was shocked by her statement.
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And I talked to myself, you know, she's probably right in many ways, right, because
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we've lost that, loving compassionate piece of us.
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We we see it.
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I mean, look at what's what's happening with India.
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We've got 3 countries who are sending stuff, sending oxygen and, and support and everything
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over to India right now.
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And and that's awesome, but we got into this mess for a reason because of our negative
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beliefs about self and others.
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Right?
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So So we have relationship with self.
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We have relationship with others, which is a separate tool, and that methodology helps us to
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this is really good for corporate because when you dislike someone, wow, the wall is right
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there.
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Right?
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It's preventing you from from you even working with this person and could be an employee.
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It could be your boss.
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It could be a colleague, whatever.
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So this is a brilliant methodology that helps us, identify the negative traits about someone
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and we find the mirror you ever worked with a mirror law Roxanne?
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Well, I mean, you mean, the the actual technique where you where you're looking to
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mirror or
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No.
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What where the the law universal law of the mirror that what you see in others is a
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reflection of what you see in yourself.
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Yes.
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Well, I mean, I'm I probably have a different technical term for it, but we do.
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Like, I mean, obviously, if there's projection, onto something.
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Let's say I don't like the fact that I'm, impatient.
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And, you know, I've made 2 betska, which, you know, and I and I I perceived some calls you of
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you as being pushing pushing me along, I'm gonna project that onto you and react to you
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because it's something I don't like in myself.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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So, we work with those types of characteristics so that the person you can see that the person
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who's pushing their buttons is actually a gift to them.
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It's nature's way god's way of saying Okay.
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You can't see that characteristic in yourself.
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So, I'm gonna through the law of attraction, I'm gonna bring someone your life to show you
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what's in you that you could benefit from changing.
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Right?
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And then the same with the positives and so on.
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So relationship with others shifts people in the in corporate and in families because we've
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got husbands and wives rubbing against each other and They hate each other, you know, their
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marriage is failing, whatever, then we get them to see how valuable their partner really is in
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showing them the mirror so that they could love themselves more.
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Mhmm.
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And then we have tools that, will, help identify that biggest boulder on your shoulder,
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we've got tools for helping people with their health.
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Like, I had one woman who had very bad colitis.
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She could barely go on an airplane because she'd have to go to the bathroom as soon as the
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buckle was on.
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Right?
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So, it took a few sessions and her colitis went into remission.
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And the the list goes on.
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We have tools for body, mind, and spirit.
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But it took me many years to develop these.
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It's a it's a heavy, not a heavy.
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It's heavy laden science because of the number of of methodologies, but our coaches love it
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because they can coach anyone anywhere on anything.
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Right.
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Right.
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So out there in the in in the the corporate world right now, what are the what do you think
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are the core fundamental things people are struggling with in the time that we're we're
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in.
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You know, the biggest one is being strategic thinkers when the world is in so much pain the
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the leaders are kind of following each other like sheep.
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Instead of, like, one of the the leaders who's doing really well, of course, is the prime
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minister of New Zealand.
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Mhmm.
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And the leader, leaders in Taiwan, and Vietnam, one of my clients from Vietnam, we were working
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the other day.
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And she said we don't have COVID here.
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You know?
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And so those leaders today need to sit back and, really look deeply at, their ability to
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think because they need to go if I was to be very honest with them, it's important that they
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go into their subconscious mind to find what is stopping them from what is stopping them, what
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are their beliefs as an individual, as a team, as a government, you know, because, you know,
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the conspiracy theories are just everywhere right now.
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Right?
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Of course.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's it's massive and don't take the jab.
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Don't take the jab because you're gonna get sick or whatever.
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Right?
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Mhmm.
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So that is hugely missing the if I look at the geniuses, the genie eye of history, like
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Einstein, for example, Plato, Da Vinci, Socrates, so many of those people had the
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ability to become Pentolateral thinkers, people who could sit down and can think using solve a
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problem using their left brain, their right brain, conscious mind, subconscious, and
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superconscious.
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And that's what mind kinetics does.
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It helps you to look at a problem from all five, areas.
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And how much sense does that make to you Roxanne?
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No.
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It does because I think there is no template for what we're going through.
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So, really, all the applications of things that would, you know, would be able to slap on to a
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a past problem.
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This is essentially unique space and time that really we have to go to a different level to be
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able to access a part of us and allows us to see clearer
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Yeah.
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For things that maybe have never been developed,
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yeah,
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for this this ever evolving problem, to create solutions that it's up it's like the fractal
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theory, right?
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You gotta move you gotta follow it as as you go, but you have to clear it stay clear minded
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and
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not be weighed down by the, the, the propensity or the heaviness of fear as well.
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It's huge.
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Like, one of our coaches from, that attended our group coaching session every every month,
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our students student coaches from around the world gather, and we do some amazing work.
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And, this gentleman said, that he said COVID is a is a divine creation.
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It is a spiritual awakening.
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And it's good for leaders to look at the intellectual side, the physical side, you know,
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the vaccine side.
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Yes.
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But you know, there are some countries, for example, who refuse to have lockdowns.
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Do you know that there are some countries who, if you don't wear a mask, they throw you in
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jail.
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Happening now?
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Yes.
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Because it lockdowns are are dramatically affecting the emotional, spiritual being of
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people.
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It is just massive.
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So, I I really I agree with that gentleman that we need to look the whole picture and really
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think this thing through and I could sit here forever and talk about solutions because there
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there are some that are, to me, very obvious what they need to be.
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And I don't know if you wanna go there today or not, but
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Well, I think we probably could, but I know I'm I'm aware of our time as well.
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So for for you, like we've talked about so much and we've talked about breadth and depth, We've
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talked about the mind.
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We've talked about the unconscious.
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We've talked about leadership and the fact that whether it's a small t trauma to a big t
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trauma, which any any kind of cross section of both, we have to do things a bit differently in
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order to get to a space to create, I what I what we call in the psychology world's second
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order change, which is true change, which is not the symptomatic change, but the deeper
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level change.
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Right.
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So what if you are talking, either CEOs or leaders listening, or senior leadership's li
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teams listening, what kind, what could be, say, two tips that you would give them now to get on
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the way to what you're what you're suggesting would be helpful.
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Okay.
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So two things.
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We need to change the way we're doing things that second order change.
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I like how you phrased that.
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We need what we're doing right now is not working very well.
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So what do we need to do I'm coaching a CEO from India right now, and he's asked the same
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thing.
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Brilliant man.
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Oh my gosh.
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So what he wanted to do was he started a new job as a leader, representing a company from
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Europe, and it's the first for his country.
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And, it has the potential to explode, but he wants to do it the right way.
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And he wanted to know, and this is the advice.
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He wanted to know, Bettska, what negative beliefs and fears do I have in my subconscious
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mind that are stopping me from really making this business successful.
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Holy cow.
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When we started to look at his stuff, it it just flooded out stuff.
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Just flooded out.
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And he is so happy.
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You should see his ROI.
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We do a a ROI document at the end to see the before and after.
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Yeah.
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And he just he's flying.
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This guy is flying.
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So that's number 1.
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Leaders today if you're listening.
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I invite you to engage with a mind kinetics coach or, like me or many people on our on our
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team, so that they can quickly help you get identify your fears and your subconscious mind,
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identify your negative beliefs that you don't even know exist.
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Forward or for not helping the world to heal this thing.
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We're stuck.
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Right.
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And then the second piece of advice is self quote.
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If you don't have the money to hire a coach, then at least go through to triple w, the brain
43:42
walk dot com and do that.
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And if you're if you still want to learn more, then you can write to me, and I'll I'll give
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you, a free spot in one of our coach training programs.
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It's just only about 26 hours.
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You know, we really want to help, this world.
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And so that is the gift we offer you today.
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That's good.
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Thanks so much for your time.
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So, you know, me bringing the the unique background that I do as a psychotherapist and
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and also as, a coach, I I often get into, you know, what what's beneath the surface and that
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you're not defined from what you come from.
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Yeah.
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But sometimes we need special guidance in order to figure those things out.
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And with leaders, they are high tactical functioners that are outcome driven, but
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oftentimes, that's not the place that's kicking them stuck.
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It's what's unknown.
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So my challenge to you is to, go out and think what is blocking me?
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And if it's not conscious and I'm struggling to get to the unconscious, what is it that I'm
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gonna do to to create that space?
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So again, that's good.
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Thanks so much for your time for everyone listening.
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