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Huddle Up | Liam Coen's Preseason Strategy & Other Training Camp Insights · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought you by the Fields Total Group,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former
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  Speaker 1: Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P. Shatick ing
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  Speaker 1: you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now. Welcome man. It is Huddle
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  Speaker 2: Up with Bucky Brooks for the first time in the
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season. We've got a busy show ahead
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  Speaker 2: training camp rolling along the Steelers and the Jaguars coming
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  Speaker 2: up in preseason week one. It's Saturday night, seven o'clock
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  Speaker 2: at EverBank Stadium. We'll get to Trevor Lawrence and the offense.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, a new look Jaguars defense position battles continuing
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  Speaker 2: in a couple of key spots. The first depth chart
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  Speaker 2: was put out in the release this week. We'll dig
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  Speaker 2: into that a little bit as well. Huddle Up with
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  Speaker 2: way out in Los Angeles, California. We are back, baby.
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  Speaker 2: What's up Buck? How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Jp Odo? I hate to stop before a start because
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I need to up to Annie. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what you have going on with your beer game,
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  Speaker 3: but I feel like I need to come correct. I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to get some oils, some things, a little
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  Speaker 3: rust brush mine out because whatever you're doing today is
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  Speaker 3: a little different than what I'm used to and kind
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  Speaker 3: of threw me off when I when we started the podcast, Well.
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  Speaker 2: This is this is what happens, you know, it's the
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  Speaker 2: new look. I don't know. I guess.
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  Speaker 4: Here's what happens when what leads to this.
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  Speaker 2: It's a long story, John, How much time do we have?
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  Speaker 4: What happens when.
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  Speaker 2: When I don't shave for a while, That's what this
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  Speaker 2: is what happens when I don't shave for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Uh no, Uh well, you gotta get yours going, Bucky,
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  Speaker 2: what are we doing here?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I may maybe maybe not me be training camp.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I was just so surprised. I hadn't
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  Speaker 3: you know what it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's a playoff, Beard.
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  Speaker 4: John yours is a playoff beer, so so you're not
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  Speaker 4: shaving until.
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  Speaker 2: They I'm going to look like Billy Gibbons.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, place that's fair.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, go for it. Whatever to make me itch, But
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  Speaker 3: that's fine, Rode all the way out. I dig it.
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  Speaker 3: I like playoff hockey. I'm all about it. So if
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  Speaker 3: that's what you feel like the time you're on, let's
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  Speaker 3: go do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you're the same way, John, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: look at you, Bucky, look at him. Don't look at me.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no no. It's a little different though.
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  Speaker 3: You get like a little grizzly Adams to you, like
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  Speaker 3: maybe it is you're quietly doing the playoff beer. But
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  Speaker 3: does the team know? Does the team know that's what
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  Speaker 3: that's the.
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  Speaker 2: Show I was being called out on. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: know they know, now.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I would I would think that you might
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  Speaker 3: want to consult it, like Trevor and Picture. They understand
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  Speaker 3: the gravity of the situation, fellas.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta throw it out there, all right. We've
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  Speaker 2: got plenty to get to. Two weeks in the camp now. First,
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  Speaker 2: the first games coming up Saturday, John.
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  Speaker 4: And we're into it.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's ball now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's uh. You know, the scrimmage the other
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  Speaker 4: night was a good first taste. It was more like
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  Speaker 4: a game than any scrimmage I can remember around here
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  Speaker 4: in a while. Uh, but it starts to sort of
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  Speaker 4: matter on Saturday. Matters for a lot of young players,
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  Speaker 4: and it matters as far as how it looks for
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  Speaker 4: the starters. So, h preseason football is is uh. It
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  Speaker 4: it's a huge step up from anything else which has
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  Speaker 4: been all ramp up stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bucky, let's let's hear from the head coach, Liam
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  Speaker 2: Cohen on the challenge for a coaching staff and establishing
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  Speaker 2: playing time in preseason week number one.
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  Speaker 5: That is the ultimate uh, you know, it's not obviously
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  Speaker 5: came from being in LA. It was, shoot, you're your
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  Speaker 5: ones and twos don't really play right, and so you're
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  Speaker 5: you're ultimately playing with a lot of younger guys, which
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  Speaker 5: is kind of the That's the whole selling point in
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  Speaker 5: LA is you do that and it helps you get
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  Speaker 5: you know, CFAs and get guys to come in because
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  Speaker 5: you know you're gonna get a lot of great quality
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  Speaker 5: reps in film. Whereas in Tampa we played some of
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  Speaker 5: the guys and and and got some quality work. So
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  Speaker 5: it's it's definitely a difficult decision that we've been wrestling
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  Speaker 5: back and forth with a little bit, but we'll we'll
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  Speaker 5: have a better idea tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: First year head coach and first time head coach Bucky
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  Speaker 2: trying to make decisions and establish some kind of format
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  Speaker 2: for preseason.
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  Speaker 3: Look, man, the number one thing the goal of training
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  Speaker 3: camp is to get to the starting line with all
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  Speaker 3: of your beaten in players available. And as much as
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  Speaker 3: I would love to see kind of like a little
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  Speaker 3: take what this team and what this offense and defense
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  Speaker 3: and we want to look like, ultimately you want everyone
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  Speaker 3: to be available in week one. And the La Rams
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  Speaker 3: have done this for a long time successfully. They've been
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  Speaker 3: able to get out the fast starts. A lot of
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  Speaker 3: it means that you got to put more emphasis on
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  Speaker 3: an raised intensity and practice. But if the goal is
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  Speaker 3: to be the best team that you can be into
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  Speaker 3: regular seasons and set yourself up to the playoffs, I
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  Speaker 3: do understand not playing your guys in the preseason to
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  Speaker 3: make sure they're available for week one when it really
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  Speaker 3: really counts.
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  Speaker 4: Let me see if this tracks for you, Bucky. My
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  Speaker 4: guess is that a first year coach, I would expect
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  Speaker 4: how he handles preseason to look different as he moves
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  Speaker 4: forward and gets more comfortable with exactly what he wants
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  Speaker 4: out of it. I would expect him to sort of
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  Speaker 4: want to go the McVeigh way, and yet at the
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  Speaker 4: very end kind of say, you know what, but I
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  Speaker 4: want to see my guys this time. And I'm not
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  Speaker 4: saying right, but for this reason, Trevor's not experienced in
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  Speaker 4: this system. This is Trevor's first time in this system.
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  Speaker 4: I think the first time with guys in the system
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  Speaker 4: factor may mean seeing some guys the first team for
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  Speaker 4: a little bit this season and then maybe not replicate
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  Speaker 4: that moving forward. Just be it's hard for me to
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  Speaker 4: picture going into Week one without this offense playing against
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  Speaker 4: anybody other than themselves during the preseason. They could surprise me,
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  Speaker 4: but it would be hard for me to believe it.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing I'll say to that, John is I
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  Speaker 3: agree with you, and that's fine. If this was If
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  Speaker 3: this was a situation where they had two or maybe
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  Speaker 3: three joint practice sessions, I would say that the starters
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  Speaker 3: are not playing, sure, but because there's only one opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to get that done and that's not until Miami. You're
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  Speaker 3: more likely to see the guys play a little bit. Now.
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  Speaker 3: I have been part of teams where look those starters.
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  Speaker 3: They get one series and it can be a three
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  Speaker 3: and out or a ten play series, but they get
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  Speaker 3: one and so you better figure out what you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: do in that one series because you want to make
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  Speaker 3: sure as we say, we want rhythm and chemistry and
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  Speaker 3: those things, but more importantly, we prior to our health
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  Speaker 3: over everything. So it'll be that mix. But I do
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  Speaker 3: understand what John is talking about. First time coach, kind
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  Speaker 3: of want to see what it looks like, want to
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  Speaker 3: go through the mechanics of everything. So I'm not mad
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  Speaker 3: either way, but I can't see John's point.
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  Speaker 2: You know who everybody wants to see on Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: Night, Packy Brooks. He's coming in right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be here.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 2: That's yes, it's uh can't waste names on the show.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a good answer John. The guy wearing number twelve,
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  Speaker 2: Travis Hunter is going to be something that people will
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  Speaker 2: want want to see. It's going to be an attraction certainly.
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  Speaker 2: And in the practices this week, the padded practices, the
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  Speaker 2: last two days, he's practiced on both sides of the
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  Speaker 2: football in the same practice, and they're continuing to ramp
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  Speaker 2: that up. He did it both ways in the scrimmage
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  Speaker 2: last Friday night, so uh, they're just adding to that play.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see how long he can do it, right Buck.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think this is funny because to me,
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  Speaker 3: this reminds me of a team getting ready for a
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  Speaker 3: high school Jambo riep, meaning like you got everyone in town,
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  Speaker 3: you got your best players, and you're resting in debating like,
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  Speaker 3: hey man, how much do you want to show our
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  Speaker 3: guys off? But here you have this unique toy that
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  Speaker 3: you want to play with, right, someone who can do
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  Speaker 3: it on offense and defense, and you're trying to figure
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  Speaker 3: out how to get them going, how to get the
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  Speaker 3: fans a little taste of what he can do, while
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  Speaker 3: also not putting them on the field too much. I
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  Speaker 3: believe this would be a very scripted approach. Look for him,
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  Speaker 3: look for the ball to go his way early, and
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  Speaker 3: then on defense he'll get in on some STAPs in
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  Speaker 3: those things. But to me, this is an opportunity. We
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  Speaker 3: can get him early, get him in, let him do
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  Speaker 3: both ways, and then get him out as soon as
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  Speaker 3: we can.
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  Speaker 4: Is there anything Bucky And I'm not sure there is
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  Speaker 4: to him doing it for a few series to get
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  Speaker 4: the mechanics of it or are there any mechanics of
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  Speaker 4: it stuff that really has to be done. He's done
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  Speaker 4: it before Colorado. I'm not sure that's as big a
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  Speaker 4: deal as I'm thinking. But to figure out how to
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  Speaker 4: communicate with this coach or that coach, or where he's
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  Speaker 4: going to go on the sidelines, anything like that. You
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  Speaker 4: can see that they may want him to practice before
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  Speaker 4: the regular season or no.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's more on the coaches more so than
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  Speaker 3: Travis has done. This is our entire life, like bounce
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  Speaker 3: around from one side to the other. This is more
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  Speaker 3: of a big deal for the coaches in terms of
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  Speaker 3: how we're going to communicate the corrections, how we're going
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  Speaker 3: to get him the feedback that he needs from offense
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  Speaker 3: to defense. When do we put him in, where does
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  Speaker 3: he stand? Which headphones does he pick up? When we
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  Speaker 3: need to communicate with him from the booth down. There
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  Speaker 3: will be some of that that needs to be worked on.
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  Speaker 3: But John, I wouldn't be surprised if there is an
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  Speaker 3: assistant coach that's kind of a sign to kind of
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  Speaker 3: being in Travis's back pocket to make sure he gets
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  Speaker 3: the information that he needs. That's that's the first thing
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  Speaker 3: that comes to mind for me. Hey, we need someone
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  Speaker 3: not to be his buddy, but someone to always know
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  Speaker 3: where he is so we can make sure he gets
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  Speaker 3: the coaching points that he needs on both sides of
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  Speaker 3: the ball.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we've got enough coaches, so I'm sure we can
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  Speaker 4: find somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, you're not wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I guess it's not exclusive to the Jags, but there's
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  Speaker 4: enough coaches in the NFL these days that you can
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  Speaker 4: find somebody to play that role.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And obviously part of this too for a new
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  Speaker 2: coaching staff is who's upstairs and who's down They gotta
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  Speaker 2: figure that out too, they you know, you don't really
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  Speaker 2: that might I could change in the preseason until Liam's
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  Speaker 2: comfortable with whatever is going on. Let's take a time out.
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  Speaker 2: We'll come back in a moment. We got to get
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  Speaker 2: to the defense. What I from Trevor Lawrence a little
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  Speaker 5: It's every day something right. It's every day it's making
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  Speaker 5: a play right. And there's only so much right within
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  Speaker 5: a scheme that you can teach and coach. Ultimately, they
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  Speaker 5: have to go out and make plays. And he just
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  Speaker 5: continues to be a steady, consistent professional that communicates at
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  Speaker 5: a high level. He brings a calmness to our back end.
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  Speaker 5: He brings a playmaker to our back end and a
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  Speaker 5: great leader for the guys to be able to continue
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  Speaker 5: to listen to back there.
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  Speaker 2: Head coach Liam Cohen this week on Shordan Lewis, c
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  Speaker 2: Nickel Corner brought in in free agency, Welcome back to
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  Speaker 2: Saturday is presented by Wolfson Children's, the official children's hospital
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  Speaker 2: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. And to that point from the
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  Speaker 2: head coach there, guys, they have added a lot of
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  Speaker 2: pieces in the back end of the defense this offseason
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  Speaker 2: free agency draft, and it felt like that whatever Liam
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  Speaker 2: Cohen was just talking about their presence, football knowledge in
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  Speaker 2: the right place. That was a theme for all these guys.
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  Speaker 2: Eric Murray's got that, Andrew ingerd certainly has that. He's
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  Speaker 2: one of the returning Jordan Lewis has that, but then
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  Speaker 2: he's been making plays during practice at scrimmage, has a
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  Speaker 2: diving pick the other night along the sideline, and then
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  Speaker 2: yesterday had another diving pick in a third down situation.
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  Speaker 2: Just really incredible play from this guy. Already.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he's been their best defensive back in practice and
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  Speaker 4: it seems like he's tracking to be maybe their best
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  Speaker 4: defensive back going into the season. They have some quality
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  Speaker 4: back there. Tyson Campbell was really good. Jordan Lewis was
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  Speaker 4: brought in from day one. When they brought him in,
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  Speaker 4: all you heard from the people who made the decision was,
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  Speaker 4: out of all the free agents, this was the guy
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  Speaker 4: they talked about as much as any of them. I
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  Speaker 4: think they believe that they have a guy who for
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  Speaker 4: a couple of years is a frontline cornerback for him,
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  Speaker 4: and he has shown it. What's interesting is it's hard
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  Speaker 4: as member the secondary, and Bucky played a lot more
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  Speaker 4: NFL secondary than I did, but it's hard back there
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  Speaker 4: to get your handle the ball all the time, and
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  Speaker 4: this guy has a knack for having his hands on
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  Speaker 4: the football in practice. It doesn't always translate, but when
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  Speaker 4: you're doing that, I assume there's a reason for it. Blacky,
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  Speaker 4: you're pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's pretty good. And I go all the way
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  Speaker 3: back to high school with Jordan Lewis, and I love
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  Speaker 3: everything that he's about when it comes to the ballplayer
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  Speaker 3: that he's become from those early days and talking to
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  Speaker 3: him when I was in town a week or so ago,
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  Speaker 3: he just talked about how everything down here clicks. It's
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  Speaker 3: all about ball. He settled in, he's away from distraction
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  Speaker 3: of Dallas and so he can lock in and play.
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  Speaker 3: And I believe we're getting the best version of Jordan,
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  Speaker 3: and the best version of him is high IQ player,
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  Speaker 3: great instincts and awareness, feisty, intense competitor, does it back
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  Speaker 3: down from changes, jump from challenges from anybody. And he's
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  Speaker 3: versatile enough to play inside and outside. And when you
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  Speaker 3: think about what they're putting together in a defense that
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  Speaker 3: is more vision based, sea ball, getball, reacts and aggressively
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  Speaker 3: go hunt the ball. You're seeing him get his hands
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  Speaker 3: on it because he understands how to break down right
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  Speaker 3: route concepts. But he also understands how to play the
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  Speaker 3: quarterback and vision between quarterback and man and that veteran
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  Speaker 3: savvy that it brings to the back end. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: surprised that he's making a lot of plays. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: also not surprised when I hear you guys talk about
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  Speaker 3: the veterans, and after last year where you gave up
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  Speaker 3: so many big plays, where you're just trying to find
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  Speaker 3: guys that are reliable, independable in the back end, that
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  Speaker 3: can line up, play the defense as it's called and
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  Speaker 3: as it should be executed, and then let the chips
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  Speaker 3: fall where they may. Just by doing that, the Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: defense can get exponentially better by not beating themselves. Were
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  Speaker 3: blown assignments and missed alignments.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems. And I always hesitate to go gay
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  Speaker 4: gay over free agency during training camp because we haven't
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  Speaker 4: seen the railar season yet. But when you're talking about
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  Speaker 4: Diame Brown and Jordan Lewis, I'll focus on those two
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  Speaker 4: because they've stood out to me as much as anybody.
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  Speaker 4: You're talking about two pretty good and nothing's cheap in
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  Speaker 4: free agency, but you weren't talking about bust the market
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  Speaker 4: open guys that cripple you for years with the cap.
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  Speaker 4: You're talking about two guys who at Deame's really impressed
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  Speaker 4: me with how consistent he is. I wondered what we
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  Speaker 4: would see in terms of because he was sort of
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  Speaker 4: only a few weeks productive last year, but he looks
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  Speaker 4: like a guy who can bring it every week and
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  Speaker 4: bring you consistency, and so does Jordan Lewis. Again, I'm
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  Speaker 4: kind off track, but two guys who it seems like
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  Speaker 4: can really fit into what they already have, two very
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: intelligent free agent signings at the stage they were made.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: So I'm optimistic and very curious to how those guys
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: play out this year.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. I had a chance earlier this
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: week to spend time at Cowboys camp and they were
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: having a joint practice against the Rams. And naturally, whenever
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: you see the Rams, that hear the RAMS, or talk
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: to people about the Rams, you're trying to kind of
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: get the secret sauce because you want to know how
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: that's going to relate to what's happening in Jacksonville. And
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: one of the things that I was able to get
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: from a few RAMS executives when they talked about the
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: culture and the type of players that really thrive in
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: this environment. They talk about guys that already have the
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: want to be great, guys that you have to say
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: whoa instead of giddy up? And when I think about
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: the guys that you that we're referencing, whether it's Dianmi
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Brown or Jordan Lewis, or some of the other guys,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: like even Travis Hunter coming in and some of the
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: other rookies. These are guys that are really all about ball,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: like you have to kind of pull them out of
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: the building as opposed to like, hey, can you please
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: go in and put a little more time in and prepare.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: And what happens is when you get a collection of
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: those kind of guys, it kind of changes the energy
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: around the program. And I'm not saying that all of
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: a sudden the jack wasn't go from whatever they were
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: last year to now we're talking about title contenders, but
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: there's a vibe that is different around this team, and
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: you just hope that the results come quicker than anticipated
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: because it feels a lot different based on the personnel
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: that has been brought in.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Well said, let's come back at a moment, we've got
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: to get into the safety battle that is Brewing. Would
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: you do that fair, John Brewing?
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I think Brewing's fair, I mean, and I do think
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: it's a battle co starters at both So.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: We're gonna be in atrigue. We're gonna get into that
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: when we come back. Defensive line as well. Were the
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  Speaker 4: And it was great.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: We got Alex Kemp out here, a great you know
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: referee crew out here that did a great job. We
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: met with them as a staff at seven am this morning.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: They will meet with our players, excuse me, this afternoon.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: They'll also meet with the rookies and explain some of
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: the rule changes from college to pro this evening. And
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: so we are making a conscious effort that in the
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: league is making a conscious effort detailing formations, alignments, assignments
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: and mo She's is a huge part of the rule.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: The rules this year. The two men in motion, illegal formation, shaving,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage is show all showed up today.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: All the things that they are trying to emphasize. So
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: long winded way of answering your question, I'd like a
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: little bit more discipline.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen earlier this week talking about the officials at
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: practice and walking back a tundle up with Bucket Rooks.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: By the way, well you were playing plaster coverage on
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: coach Cohen. There John in that press conference.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: All over him there, gotta get the story.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: All over it had no room to breathe.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: It's the NFL.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: JP, Give the guy some space.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: It's the NFL. He did not hit me, by the
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: way he hit somebody else.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, I looked like, that's what happens when you're up
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: in his grill.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: I'm better than that. I can I can cover you
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: without fallony.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: That's what we can do. And I like it. Okay,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: that's what's going on.
• 20:56
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I love the logo, I love the old
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: school uniforms. Man. That's a long time in between Week
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: five and Week fourteen. But I'm not going to play
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: like I like to throwbacks. I like to throwback.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Guck. You noticed the trend here, Johnny. It's the divisional
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: games games and the Chiefs who've been the perennial AFC
• 21:42
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• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Hey, you went off four of those. You're in good shape,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: but you went all four of those.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Look, I understand why the Chiefs are there. I think, uh,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: kind of getting some of that swifty love certainly matters
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: when it comes to the attention in the national spotlight.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: It's also the lone primetime game.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it'll be a cool look.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, the two unbeaten teams go at it
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: with the throwbacks.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: That's right, let's do it. Yes, the four and oh
• 22:11
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• 22:12
  Speaker 3: I've never heard. I've never heard John be so bold
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: when it comes to the team. Hey, like, hey, we're gon,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: We're gonna go out.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I'm all in. I'm playing defense on the head coach,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: and I'm going after it.
• 22:21
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  Speaker 2: will take a look at a matchup moving ahead. Well,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: it hasn't really been a matchup yet and it's preseason
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: week one, so we look at the matchups in the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: safety's room. The depth chart first one of the preseason
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: put out in the game release this week, and a
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: lot of co starters Eric Murray or Darnell Savage at
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: one safety spot, Andrew Wingard or Antonio Johnson at another
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: safety spot. A lot of talent, a lot of veteran
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: presence in this group here, Bucky, and we just gotta
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: wait to see this thing play out.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a wait to see it play out.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: But a lot of what we talked about on defense
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: is can we avoid the mistakes? Can we quit beating ourselves?
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: And some of the guys that were brought in, particularly
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Eric Murray, they were brought in to give us that
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: stability in the back end. When you think about the
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: defense last year with and without Dewey in the back end,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: there's a strong belief that his communication skills, his ability
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: to be a traffic cop really steadies that defense. Now,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Joaniell Savage was a hot Rice free agent that came
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: in into the previous regime. We'll see if he can
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: play his way until to starting the lineup, and there
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: was a lot of optimism over Antonio Johnson. I'm excited
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: to see what this looks like after three games, but
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: a lot of competition. Competition brings out the best in everybody.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would expect Murray and Winger to start. I
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: think they like Caleb Ransaw a lot. I think they
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: hoped that he would push Any're not in there right now,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: so I think it's gonna be hard for him to
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: push for a starting spot in preseason. You're not playing
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: as a rookie. I know they like him a lot
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: for the long term. Murray was brought in for exactly
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: the reasons Buck he's talking about, to stabilize things back there.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: They brought him with the idea he's going to start.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: It'd be a surprise if he didn't start. Antonio Johnson's interesting.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know that he's going to push winding Guard
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: out of the starting role. But my understanding is they
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: really like what he has done this preseason, maybe more
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: than they expected to. And I only mean that by
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: you know, this is his third coordinator in three seasons, Antonio,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: So when this staff came in and looked at what
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: went on before, it was fair that they really didn't
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: know what this kid was because he'd been in one
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: scheme then another last year was a mess, but I
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: know they like him. And Antonio said this when I
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: was talking to him on the field. I think it
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: was last week. He really likes this scheme because he's
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: looking at the quarterback. He feels like he plays better
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: in that scenario. I think that lines up with how
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: they feel about him. So even I don't know if
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: he's going to start, but I think all the people
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: who loved Antonio Johnson and have been waiting for him
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: to sort of be what he can be, there may
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: be some more glimpses of that. I guess what I'm
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: saying is if you've given up on him, I think
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: it's really to give up on him.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe too early to give up on him, just
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: because the new scheme, new voices can bring about different
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: results for a player. I will say, going back to
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: his time in Texas A and M, he was a
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: big time player at their star position, which is really
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: like a hybrid nickel safety linebacker role.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Now I think they have a thought for him along
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: those lines.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: But yeah, he's very instinct then he's a playmaker and look, man,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: when you talk to DB's there's comfort in looking at
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: the quarterback and seeing the ball come out we always
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: liking it back in the day too. When you're a
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: baseball player and you're trying to steal bases, you still
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: off the pitcher, not the catching So being able to
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: get a jump on the quarterback because of his eyes,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: his delivery, the paddle, the ball, anything like that brings
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: you one step closer to making the play. If you
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: can hone in on those things in your film study
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: and your habits line up, there are a lot of
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: plays to be made on tips and overthrows in this
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: kind of defense.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: We'll go through a few of the other oars on
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: the depth chart, at least first second team on the
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: first depth chart of this preseason, and on defense you
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: see Abdula or Dennis Gardak at a linebacker spot, and
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Gardak had been off to the side at the start
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: of camp coming off an ACL tear last year. There
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: is on a veteran player been around. Of course, you
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: hear Adula has been here for a little bit of
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: time now with the Jaguars on the defensive side and
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: on special teams, and then on offense. There's three of them.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Matt Patrick McCarry again he had been out a little
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: bit as well, a right guard Chuma Edoga is the
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: other or there one of the tight endspots Johnny Munt
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: or Hunter Long, two guys brought in in free agency,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: and then at running back Travis Etn or Tank Bigsby.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: That's one that a lot of people will watch you.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and my feeling on the running back position,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: there's a couple of things. First of all, they like
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: all five guys that are here a lot, and they've
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: all made plays. There was that whole rigamarole around the
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: draft when they took the three backs. They're going to
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: train Travis Etn, et cetera, et cetera. My impress Travis Etn.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I think they have the best camp that he's had
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: here so far. He's embracing what they're asking him to do.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: I think they like him. I don't think they disliked
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: him coming in Bucky, but I think they like him
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: and the way he's approaching it, maybe more than they
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: anticipated they would. And it just feels to me like
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Travis is making a smart decision. He is embracing what
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: they're asking him to do. I don't necessarily know that
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: he's going to be a you know, twenty five carry guy.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: I don't think he should be. But if he plays
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: like they want him to, I don't know if it'll
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: be here next year because of the contract situation, but
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: he can play himself into being a very valuable back.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: The way the NFL is these days, I think he's
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: gonna have a good year for them, and I think
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: he's gonna extend his career.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a perfect system for him. If you
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: go all the way back to when Travis was coming
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: out of Clemson, he did his most his big playmaking
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: was on the edges, off tackle runs, things that allowed
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: him to get outside his speed. Early in his career,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: he's been more insight in between the tackles, more of
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: a downhill back, which doesn't really play to his skill
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: set to me, and watching him practice everything that the
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Jags do with the stretch run game, that is something
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: that Travis can do. The bootleg and the screen game
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: that we're seeing where they getting the ball to him
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: in space behind the convoy that works. Remember two years ago,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: he made a bunch of plays. I mean, he was
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: a playmaker all over the place and he was really
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: a big part of their offense. Maybe less is more
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: for Travis, less of a feature role, but more of
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: a specific role that allows him to get the ball
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: in his hands doing the things that really played to
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: his skills.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: And he made a good point in an interview I
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: was listening to the other day. Well, they were asking
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: him about the final year of his rookie deal and
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: the contract, and he's like, I can't wear I gotta
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: be where my feet are every day and be in
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: those rooms and learn this new offense. And just to
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: your point, John, he's he's got the right mindset at
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: least early in training camp, and we'll see if it
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: continues to show up.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And he's always been a smart kid regarding his career.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: A few years ago had him on the ozone podcast
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: and it was when running backs were being devalued and
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: all that stuff, and he said, look, I know it's
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: a short it's a relatively short lifespan for running backs.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: You know, he's aware of that. I think exactly a phrase,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: but that was the gist of it. So I think
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: he is always aware of, you know, what the NFL
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: really is, what his position is, what's best and that's
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: best for him. That sounds selfish, but how to be
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: the best player he can be within what a team's
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: asking him to do and then how that fits him
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: for being in the NFL for a long time, which
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: is what they all want. And I really like Travis
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: etn I always have and it would be cool after
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: sort of a lost season last year AFRA, but really
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: for him if he can sort of find that role
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: we're talking about and matter a lot in this offense,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: and I think he will. He scored eleven touchdowns two
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: years ago. So I always say, like when all this,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: when all the trade stuff was going on, I don't
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: like when a team trades good players in the moment
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: for late round draft picks, which is realistic what you
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: be doing with him, keep them and you know, have
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: him perform for you. The current season matters and I
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: think he's going to matter a lot this year.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's big time potential looking forward to him. And
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: I'll say this about Tank Bigsby. Biggest thing with Tank
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: if he can hold onto the ball, he gives them
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: a physical presence of physicality and a toughness. And if
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: you go back and look at William Cohen has done
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: in the past with running back to multiple guys getting
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: carries being able to kind of own their respective roles.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: If You're able to establish that in Jacksonville with those
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: two guys in different roles but getting equal attention and opportunity. Man,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: this could be a very very nice options that's coming together.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Another those kids deep on the depth charts say they
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: run hard man le Quinn.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Allen's not scared to run into people.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: They've got backs here. You know, the rams under glass
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: don't remember they play as Bucky knows. They don't mind
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: playing young guys, unproving guys. Jackson and Allen are intriguing
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: stories on that field.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: When Jackson gets that little head of steam, big head
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: of steam, go on, lookout. He's two hundred and thirty
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: three pounds. May not be top end speed, but you
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: don't want to be in front of it, that's for sure.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Let's come back. We're gonna hear from Travis Etn's college teammate.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: It's und left with Bucky.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: Brooks made some huge strives from the spring as far
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: as listen to the system and being comfortable playing fast,
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: getting through progressions, letting it rip, especially across the middle,
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: and anticipating some throws. I think it's been a lot
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: better than the spring, So you know, I think going
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: into today I was pleased with just my progress, you know,
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: not necessarily overall performance, but just getting I felt like
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: I was really just playing better every day, and I
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: think that's what you want to do. And today obviously
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: had a little bit of a rougher day, So we'll
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: have to watch it and just learn from it. And
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: it's the same thing, even if you don't perform what
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: you want to, you gotta lear from it.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Quarterback Trevor Lawrence after what was he said, and the
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: head coach said, not a great offensive day. They bounced
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: back with a little better performance. It felt like on Wednesday,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: it's suddle up with Bucky Brooks.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: J P.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Shadwick, John Ozer, John You asked.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: I was not close to Trevor because you can leave
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Trevor open a little more than you can Liam.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: The quarterback's got a red jersey.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: It's true.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: You don't want to touch the quarterback. Yeah, you just
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: don't stay away from the quarterback.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: About that. Wait, especially me, like I do not want
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: to hurt the quarterback, so that would not bode well
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: for my longevity.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: But John You asked him about you know, how's it
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: progressed from day one of the off season, not just
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: in training camp, but from then to now, And that
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: was his answer. Yeah.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: And I was really impressed and encouraged by how he
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: looked in the scrimmage the other night, Bucky. He looked
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  Speaker 4: very confident. As Liam said afterwards, he he was driving
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  Speaker 4: the ball. It looked like his decision making, he was
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  Speaker 4: very willing to go downfield. He just looked very comfortable.
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  Speaker 4: And it struck me that that was a good sign
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  Speaker 4: because in practice, there's so many situations it's hard to
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  Speaker 4: judge what you're seeing in practice. But this was a
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  Speaker 4: game situation where he looked very comfortable running it. It
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  Speaker 4: looked and I don't know enough about the details of
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  Speaker 4: what he's doing with his footwork to know if he's
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  Speaker 4: doing it right or not, but he looked comfortable quick
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  Speaker 4: and he said he's feeling that. To me, if they're
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  Speaker 4: getting him to the point where he can be consistent
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  Speaker 4: and confident, I don't care if he's Patrick Mahomes or
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  Speaker 4: Josh Allen yet, but if they're getting him to that
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  Speaker 4: point where he looks comfortable and he's confident in the
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  Speaker 4: offense going into Week one, I think he can build
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  Speaker 4: from there. I think I was so much more encouraged
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  Speaker 4: on that front than I ever have been with him
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  Speaker 4: over the last four or five days.
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  Speaker 3: John, I really like what you're saying about, like not
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  Speaker 3: necessarily acting expecting him to be Pat Mahomes, The big
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  Speaker 3: thing for Trevor is, let's just get him to be
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  Speaker 3: good before we can expect the great part of r
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  Speaker 3: So getting to be good is him being able to
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  Speaker 3: play every snap being available. It also means put him
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  Speaker 3: in an offense that really plays to the strengths of
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  Speaker 3: his game. He has the athleticism momental that you want
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  Speaker 3: to use to get him on the perimeter, but you
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  Speaker 3: also the quick rhythm passing in getting the ball out
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  Speaker 3: of his hands to a cast of playmakers. Then what
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  Speaker 3: I really like, and I think people are going to
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  Speaker 3: see more of it, not only from the Jaguars but
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  Speaker 3: around the league play action from under center formations. The
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  Speaker 3: reason why is the play action is far more effective,
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  Speaker 3: far more believable when you come from under center. That
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  Speaker 3: leads to bigger lanes and windows to hit receivers in
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  Speaker 3: at the intermediate range and also look for the return
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  Speaker 3: of the deep ball. One of the things that Trevor
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  Speaker 3: does really well is to hit the deep ball. We
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  Speaker 3: haven't seen it enough because we haven't run the ball
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  Speaker 3: well enough to force people out of those two hot looks.
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  Speaker 3: If the Jaguars can run the football and use some
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  Speaker 3: of those play action things, you'll see shot zone when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to Brian Thomas Junior, Travis Hunter, Parker Washington,
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  Speaker 3: all these guys that can run these diagonals and posts
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  Speaker 3: and those things. And I didn't even include Dianmi Brown,
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  Speaker 3: who was really known for being a vertical specialist.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it does appear like early on in Campa Bucke,
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  Speaker 4: I think you and I were talking about it that
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  Speaker 4: clearly there's an element of getting the ball out of
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  Speaker 4: his hands to guys on the sidelines, to backs that
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  Speaker 4: then that they were working on early it felt like,
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  Speaker 4: and they're working on a million things that sort of
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  Speaker 4: jumped out, and you know, there does seem to be
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  Speaker 4: a concerted effort. I don't know if they're telling them
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  Speaker 4: that in the meeting rooms or whatever, of hey, it's
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  Speaker 4: okay to take shots deep. You know, we want the
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  Speaker 4: ball going deep. I think there's an element of that
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  Speaker 4: of if teams know you're going deep, it's going to
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  Speaker 4: spread you out and help you be more balanced in
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  Speaker 4: the running game as well. But it does does seem
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  Speaker 4: like they are going to take shots. And when you're
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  Speaker 4: as fast as they are at wide receiver, you want
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  Speaker 4: to take shots.
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  Speaker 2: That's now that's analysis.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. I mean I like it. I
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  Speaker 3: mean they are fast, they built it to be that,
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  Speaker 3: and I think there's a big premium on efficiency, completion rate,
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  Speaker 3: things of that nature. Like the closer Trevor can get
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  Speaker 3: to seventy percent completion rate, the better it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be overall for the offense. Because the ball isn't hitting
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  Speaker 3: the ground. The ball that's in the hands of a
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  Speaker 3: number of playmakers, and I believe there's a general sense
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  Speaker 3: that these playmakers on the outside, when they get the
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  Speaker 3: ball in their hands, that can make things happen. No
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  Speaker 3: disrespect to the previous set of receivers that were there,
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  Speaker 3: but they were pretty much catch it and that's what
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  Speaker 3: we're getting. Now. You have some guys that have a
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  Speaker 3: little more juice, a little more speed where catch a
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  Speaker 3: break and tackle. Those five yard pass can turn the
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  Speaker 3: fifteen yard games or more. You have to like that
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  Speaker 3: because it's too hard to expect the quarterback to manufacture everything.
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  Speaker 3: You relight it to get it to gas who can
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  Speaker 3: operate in space and make things happen, because then everyone
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: benefits from the game being easy because your play makes
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: it better than their ponus huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 2: Steelers Jaguars Saturday, seven o'clock. We've got JAG's am tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: John to be on their unless something goes wrong.
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  Speaker 2: We got Jaguars, well hope not. Jaguars Happy Hour and
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the Liam Cohen Show Thursday afternoon. No Liam Cohen until
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: the regular season. But we'll have James Gladstone and Tony
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Busselli in studio live again.
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  Speaker 4: Together, which is like you know Sinatra and Martin how
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  Speaker 4: it is? Yeah, Yeah, I mean it's good stuff when
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: those guys get together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So that'll be tomorrow, and then Jags are back
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  Speaker 2: on the field practice tomorrow and then walk through Friday
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  Speaker 2: and then playball on Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: It's preseason, but and we'll do this again next week.
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  Speaker 3: Bucky, I'm man really excited about it. I know John
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  Speaker 3: can't wait. He's been tracking all the things throughout because
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure you got a nice spreadsheet with all the
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  Speaker 3: completions the play counts.
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  Speaker 2: He's been Travis Hunter plays.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. I'm gonna need to see an updated spreadsheet
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  Speaker 3: full on Monday.
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  Speaker 4: The Florida Times Union has been tracking Travis Hunter plays,
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  Speaker 4: and because I go back with Gary to nineteen eighty eight,
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  Speaker 4: he's been helping me with the Travis Hunter play, so
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  Speaker 4: I cannot take credit. That's all smiter and he's doing
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  Speaker 4: yeomen's work out there.
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  Speaker 2: Love it. Bucky will see you this weekend, man the Man,
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  Speaker 2: looking forward to it, so you guys. Bucky Brooks joining
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  Speaker 2: us as always, John Osier, JP Shaddick, Thanks to our
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: entire crew, Joe for Tounado, Brent Reab, and thanks to
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: you for watching its huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.