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Andy Reid Joins the Show, ACL Recovery Timelines, A.J. Brown Fallout & Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff Three and Out Podcast,
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  Speaker 2: How are we doing? Hopefully everyone is doing well. Today
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  Speaker 2: Andy Reid will join the show. He'll actually join it
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  Speaker 2: right off the top. So Coach Reid jumped on with
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  Speaker 2: it yesterday, got him for about fifteen minutes. We'll react
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  Speaker 2: to some stuff going on around the league. Micah Parsons,
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  Speaker 2: AJ Brown's comments on Jalen Hurts, Jared Verse spoke today.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take he stole Dylan Gabriel's number. We had some
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  Speaker 2: contracts being signed. We'll do a couple of mail bag
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  Speaker 2: questions at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff, but that will
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  Speaker 2: be the game plan today. What if Fugazi Friday tomorrow?
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  Speaker 2: And we'll just keep rocking and rolling. So you guys
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  Speaker 2: button and let's just let's just dive into the big fellow. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: very very excited, uh to have the head coach of
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  Speaker 2: the kan See Chiefs just coming off the practice field,
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  Speaker 2: Andy Reid, Coach, how you doing?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing good? John, Thanks, I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 2: How was uh, how's practice been going. How's the off season?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's been good. The guys have had a
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  Speaker 3: great attitude. They've challenge each other the best they can
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  Speaker 3: do in shorts and and I just like, I like
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  Speaker 3: the way they're rolling. We've got a lot of young
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  Speaker 3: guys and they're they're playing their tails off.
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  Speaker 1: So it's been good.
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  Speaker 2: So I take it with h with Patrick rehabbing this
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  Speaker 2: knee injury, Justin running with the ones right now with
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we split it, so Pat gets in and does
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  Speaker 3: some of the uh seven on seven work and group
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  Speaker 3: installed work, and then Justin takes more of the team stuff.
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  Speaker 2: When you know, I was thinking about it today. You know,
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  Speaker 2: like Manning missed that entire year the latter end of
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  Speaker 2: his career with the neck. Brady had that ACL and
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  Speaker 2: it was the first game ironically against the Chiefs before
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  Speaker 2: you were there. So those guys had the entire season
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  Speaker 2: to kind of sit back. Patrick he has this ACL injury,
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  Speaker 2: but he plays most of the season. You know, It's
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of unique. It's not like he just sat
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  Speaker 2: all year and watched. He was part of this season.
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  Speaker 2: So this offseason rehabbing, but he also got to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: take ownership and everything that happened. I mean it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of unique that more likely. I mean, all signs pointed
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  Speaker 2: this going really well. Do you think that benefits him
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  Speaker 2: that that last year, the struggles that he actually got
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  Speaker 2: to partake in, and it's not like he had nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with it.
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  Speaker 1: I guess yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean all that's good, and you know, we'll
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  Speaker 3: just see how he does going forward here. We're not
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  Speaker 3: guaranteeing anything with everybody's different than right now. He's doing
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  Speaker 3: a good job and working his tail off and being
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  Speaker 3: able to get out there and do that, but that's
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  Speaker 3: different than when it's live. So we'll just see how
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  Speaker 3: he does here over the next couple of months before
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  Speaker 3: we get started.
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  Speaker 2: You know, justin Fields, I remember a couple of years
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  Speaker 2: ago and Ryan Poles, you know, used to work for
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  Speaker 2: you guys there, so you know him well. I remember
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  Speaker 2: when he traded him. He was so impressed the way
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  Speaker 2: Fields handled everything and the way he's really handled his
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  Speaker 2: whole career these last couple of years in Pittsburgh and
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  Speaker 2: New York. I know how much you guys value that
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  Speaker 2: quarterback room. And the character stuff. Obviously, from a trade standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: he's right up your alley, big arm can move, big kid.
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  Speaker 2: But from a character standpoint, you making that move this offseason,
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  Speaker 2: how much did that mean for you guys? From the
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  Speaker 2: person as well as this player, this kind of guy
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  Speaker 2: that you can work with.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he's top notch.
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  Speaker 3: Were a great kid, I mean, phenomenal kid, John, and
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  Speaker 3: he's very very smart. He's just getting his feet wet
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  Speaker 3: here within the offense. Every day he gets a little
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  Speaker 3: bit better and more comfort for ball and like what
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  Speaker 3: we see, but we'll just see where it goes. But
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  Speaker 3: he he's been working with the ones and doing a
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  Speaker 3: nice job and getting used to the receivers and whether
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  Speaker 3: it's the tight ends or or the white outs, and
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  Speaker 3: then what we're doing with the running back stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So but I sure like the way it goes about
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  Speaker 1: his business.
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  Speaker 2: When you are are talking about making the trade. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: over the years you've played him, you've seen him on
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  Speaker 2: cross tape, but really dive into him. How far do
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  Speaker 2: you go back from an evaluation standpoint? Before you know,
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  Speaker 2: you go of each let's let's do this. Well.
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  Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to have Matt Naggi here, so
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  Speaker 3: Matt had him and drafted him and that one year
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  Speaker 3: in Chicago, so I've got a little I had a
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  Speaker 3: little feel on how he was made up and how
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  Speaker 3: he went about his business and and then I've heard
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  Speaker 3: nothing but good things from his other stays around the league.
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  Speaker 3: So I was very comfortable doing it. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: we just we just keep getting better every day. That's
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  Speaker 3: that's the key, and and becoming more familiar with everything.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you had another quarterback that you guys draft in
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  Speaker 2: the seventh round. I actually worked with Nuss's dad at
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  Speaker 2: Freso State. He was the offensive coordinator, so football family.
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  Speaker 2: Nuss's dad was a left he could could play back
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  Speaker 2: in the day, and you know, his season kind of
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  Speaker 2: went awry. Obviously, he got injured, had that abdominal thing
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  Speaker 2: that I guess came out in training camp. The evaluation
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  Speaker 2: process there and how's he been coming along for you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so our scouts liked him and.
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  Speaker 3: Each liked him, so I felt very comfortable with bringing
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  Speaker 3: him in in particular where we got him, I mean
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  Speaker 3: in the seventh round.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's a great spot to pick somebody up,
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  Speaker 3: and that's a good football player. But he's done nothing
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  Speaker 3: but impressed people here, and he goes about his business.
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  Speaker 3: He understands the game. He was raised in it and
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  Speaker 3: his dad was a good player at Idaho there and
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  Speaker 3: and so he's been around it his whole life and
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  Speaker 3: he kind of gets gets it and you can see
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  Speaker 3: that when he's out here playing.
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  Speaker 2: Is it kind of weird looking back now that mahomes
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  Speaker 2: You know, when you first got him, obviously you have Alex,
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  Speaker 2: and then you bring in Chad Henney, who I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: sure had been in the league for a while, was married.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's the veteran guy with with these younger guys,
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  Speaker 2: it's you've kind of seen it all in your career
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  Speaker 2: home when it comes.
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  Speaker 3: In, No, you know, we're not getting younger. So I
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  Speaker 3: remember when you were a pup too, so I remember that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's right. But he's listen, he's a great kid. It's
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  Speaker 3: been fun to watch him grow. He's got a great wife.
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  Speaker 3: He's got all these babies and that are that he's
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  Speaker 3: he's loving on and growing them and so uh, they
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  Speaker 3: they're very good parents.
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  Speaker 1: And he just goes about it the right way.
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  Speaker 3: And he's still the hardest worker in here. And he's
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  Speaker 3: been here every day. I know that's been out there,
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  Speaker 3: so he's been but that's what it is. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's here every day and it's been seven he puts
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  Speaker 3: in a whole work day, so it's a rehaving that
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  Speaker 3: leg and he's done a good job with it.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think a big part of your guys' success
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  Speaker 2: has been the culture? You know, we hear that word
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  Speaker 2: a lot, but obviously gets set by the players as
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  Speaker 2: much as the coaches. His work ethic and obviously Travis
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  Speaker 2: and the other guys you've had along the years, so
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  Speaker 2: everyone else that comes in year in, year out. You
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  Speaker 2: just had three guys draft in the top forty. That's
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  Speaker 2: immediately what they see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, now, sure helps.
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  Speaker 3: And it started really given credit where the whole thing starts.
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  Speaker 3: When I first got here, we had a lot of
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  Speaker 3: really good defensive players here, and those guys, all those
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  Speaker 3: veteran guys came out to me and they go, you
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  Speaker 3: just tell us what you want done, and we're going
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  Speaker 3: to do it, and we'll make sure everybody else does it.
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  Speaker 3: And so my hat goes off to those guys for
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  Speaker 3: that attitude and then we're able to challenge him and
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  Speaker 3: they hung with it, and that's that's where the culture
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  Speaker 3: takes place. And those guys get the credit for that,
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  Speaker 3: and then these other guys are just kind of followed
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  Speaker 3: in line. And we've and Brett's done a nice job
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  Speaker 3: as John Dorrissey did before, bringing guys in that are
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  Speaker 3: good guys, that are team guys. And as long as
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  Speaker 3: you have that, you're normally in pretty good shape.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you guys don't draft high very often, but when
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  Speaker 2: you do, obviously the homes thing you trade it up.
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  Speaker 2: This year it felt like no one saw it coming.
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  Speaker 2: You guys do a pretty good job of operating like
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  Speaker 2: Seal Team six and then just pounceing on the guy
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  Speaker 2: you want it? Is that a conscious effort to you
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  Speaker 2: and Veach and the whole crew talk about just let's
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  Speaker 2: let's keep quiet. He because didn't you you guys zoom
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  Speaker 2: delaying what it was like forty eight hours right before
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  Speaker 2: the draft.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know how that thing goes man, Those
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  Speaker 3: loose lips sink the ships. I mean, that's there's nothing.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing greater in this, especially amongst scouts, and there
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  Speaker 3: are a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of people involved.
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  Speaker 3: So you tell one person is not sered, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's it spreads. It spreads fast in this league. So
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  Speaker 3: I think Brett did a nice job of keeping keeping
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  Speaker 3: it at bay and and uh, keeping it under wraps.
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  Speaker 3: I thought, Listen, a great job on his part. That's
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  Speaker 3: not an easy thing to do. And he had his
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  Speaker 3: sight set on on this kid from the get go.
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  Speaker 3: So and he actually got the.
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  Speaker 1: The deal done with Andrew a week or two beforehand,
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  Speaker 1: and so it was just a.
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  Speaker 3: Matter of him being there at that time and that
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to go up and get him, and for those
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  Speaker 3: two guys to be able to keep it quiet.
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  Speaker 1: I thought was great.
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  Speaker 2: When's the first time he brought him up to you?
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  Speaker 1: That was a while back.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he said, this guy is the best corner
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  Speaker 3: in the in the draft, and you know, we did
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  Speaker 3: we did a couple things with our corners and lost
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  Speaker 3: a couple of corners, whether it's to trade or or
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  Speaker 3: free agency, and so we had we knew that was
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  Speaker 3: an important position to replenish with, and so we had
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  Speaker 3: our you know, Brett had his sight set on this kid.
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  Speaker 1: For a while.
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  Speaker 2: The emphasis on the defensive line. You know, you take Woods,
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  Speaker 2: you take Thomas, Yeah, I mean you have two picks,
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  Speaker 2: right twenty nine and forty. So you get to restock
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  Speaker 2: the cover right there. Uh, tell me about those two guys,
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  Speaker 2: how they've been looking at practice. Yeah, excitement to add
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  Speaker 2: some big time talent up front.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, both Peter and ar Mason are.
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  Speaker 3: They're they're good athletes and and so we needed we
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  Speaker 3: needed some charge in there, just guys that could could
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  Speaker 3: move around a little bit and when needed, if they
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  Speaker 3: need a pass rush that they can put pressure on
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  Speaker 3: these quarter It's quarterbacks are too good in this league,
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  Speaker 3: and so are the offensive linemen. So you've got to
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  Speaker 3: you've got to have some athletic ability and if you
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  Speaker 3: can get it in a in an inside technique, that's
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  Speaker 3: that's a tough.
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  Speaker 1: Thing to do, but it's also a great thing. We
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  Speaker 1: were able to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I think the other big off season move Kenneth Walker.
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  Speaker 2: Is it safe to say the Chiefs plan on leading
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  Speaker 2: the league in rushing this year?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know about that. I mean, I'm glad,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad we have for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's you know, he wins the MVP.
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  Speaker 2: Safe to say, that's a guy you know, coming when
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  Speaker 2: he was coming out of Michigan State. You guys had
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  Speaker 2: your eyes on you followed his career really pops this
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  Speaker 2: year used to playing in big games. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: guys play every other week. It's you know, Thursday night,
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  Speaker 2: Sunday night, Monday night. Right, So this is a guy
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of used to the bright lights, the pressure,
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  Speaker 2: big time division. Did you factor all that in besides
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  Speaker 2: just the player of knowing the pressure that comes with
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  Speaker 2: playing I mean, you guys are now like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Midwest Cowboys in terms of your brand recognition.
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  Speaker 1: Coach, Yeah, right, I would tell you I love the kid.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's a tremendous kid, and he goes one
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  Speaker 3: hundred miles every map out here. He's something to watch.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not telling you we're going to leave the
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  Speaker 3: league in rushing, but I know we've got a good
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  Speaker 3: offensive line and he's a good running back. So and uh,
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  Speaker 3: he'll come out of the season knowing that he's run
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  Speaker 3: the ball a few times.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a specific skill with him that that you
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  Speaker 2: like and that you were intrigued by that you think
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  Speaker 2: he has your offense?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he saw it.
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  Speaker 3: You know when the other running back there got got hurt,
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  Speaker 3: that he could kind of do everything they were rotating
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  Speaker 3: those guys and putting him in situations, certain situations, but
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  Speaker 3: you got to see him do third nine, You got
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  Speaker 3: some catch the football, got to see him in short
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  Speaker 3: yardage and goal line, red zone. So you got that
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  Speaker 3: whole package there, and he did it all and did
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  Speaker 3: it well. So I thought that was important. We do
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  Speaker 3: have Demarcato here, so we picked him up from Arizona,
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  Speaker 3: drafted a kid out of the Brat.
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  Speaker 2: I like that guy de Barcado can play.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, drafting kid out of out of Nebraska who we
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  Speaker 3: think is pretty good. We've got Smitty coming back. It
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  Speaker 3: was a rookie last year. So we've got a good,
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  Speaker 3: good group of guys there that we feel pretty good about.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking, I remember, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if it was my first or second year with you.
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  Speaker 2: We had a Thursday night game in Seattle, and in
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  Speaker 2: early on those Thursday night games, we're kind of it's
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  Speaker 2: like the Eagle shouldn't be going to Seattle. It's kind
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  Speaker 2: of crazy. But the Thursday night package now has become
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  Speaker 2: a kind of like Monday night football.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: The international games are, you know, obviously a polarizing topic
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  Speaker 2: right now, was it? I think two years ago you
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  Speaker 2: guys went to Brazil last year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, last year, last year.
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  Speaker 2: So what was that fifteen plus hours in the air.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a lot of hours. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: we've traveled the world since we've been here. We've been
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  Speaker 3: to Germany, We've been to London, we've been in Mexico,
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  Speaker 3: been in Brazil. And our guys they love it having
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  Speaker 3: an opportunity to go to these different places. And I
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  Speaker 3: think Roger Cadell's doing a phenomenal job of making this
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  Speaker 3: thing worldwide game.
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  Speaker 1: But from a coach's standpoint, a.
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  Speaker 3: Player standpoint, the reality of it is a long way
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  Speaker 3: to go for an hour football. But you know, you
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  Speaker 3: do it and the fans love it, which once you
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  Speaker 3: get there and you kind of get settled, it's it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of a neat experience.
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  Speaker 2: The Brazil experience. You know, these guys are going to
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  Speaker 2: Australia this year, which is a similar long flight. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure you start thinking about that thing how to work
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  Speaker 2: training camp the end. But is that also a feel
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  Speaker 2: thing during training camp of knowing you got to leave
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  Speaker 2: way early. I mean it's pretty unknown, right, I Mean
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  Speaker 2: that's one thing going to London. It's another thing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: getting in a plane, because what's the London from Kansas City?
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  Speaker 2: What's that seven eighty?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, not too far.
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  Speaker 2: That's basically double in the air. You know, injured players,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you're less likely to take a guy cushion or something.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is a massive impact on you and
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  Speaker 2: how you run the schedule, right.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 3: But it's feasible travel. They they make it as easy
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  Speaker 3: as possible. Give you a nice big plane that you
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  Speaker 3: can stretch out on. Players, get all the first class
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  Speaker 3: seats and.
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  Speaker 1: So you know it works out.
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  Speaker 3: But it is you get Nick and Bruce coming back,
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  Speaker 3: that's that can be a long flight for you if
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  Speaker 3: you get injured and so, but it's workable. It's workable,
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  Speaker 3: and I understand what the league's doing. The league's going
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  Speaker 3: to continue to grow and people like it and so
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  Speaker 3: they like the sport. So you know, you do it,
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  Speaker 3: and you put yourself in the right mindset, you can
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  Speaker 3: tang there, do anything.
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  Speaker 1: But it can be challenging. Yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I know we got to wrap here. So I
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  Speaker 2: do have to ask you the Miles Garrett trade. Where
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  Speaker 2: were you when that thing went down? I set them
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  Speaker 2: on your schedule here Coach twelve thirteen after you play
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  Speaker 2: the Bills the previous week, so a nice little stretch there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually watching the Rams because we play them,
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  Speaker 3: and I was going and, man, we're gonna get after
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  Speaker 3: these guys.
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  Speaker 1: They did that. No, I'm joking.
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  Speaker 3: Now that Listen, birth wasn't bad either. I'm gonna just
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  Speaker 3: tell you he's a pretty good player too. But they
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  Speaker 3: went out and did a did a nice job of
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  Speaker 3: picking uh, you know, picking him up. Garrett's a good
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  Speaker 3: football player, and you know, they picked up McDuffie our corner,
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: and so they're they're putting a push on things. And
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: I was joking McVeigh at the owner meetings about it.
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  Speaker 3: He's doing a heck of a job, and uh, they're
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: you know, they're they're putting putting it all in there
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  Speaker 3: and and.
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  Speaker 1: Going for it. So uh but.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Listen, he does a great job of coaching. GM does
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: a heck of a job bringing players in. Their owner
• 16:44
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• 16:47
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• 16:50
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• 16:53
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• 17:01
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  Speaker 1: Yet I can't talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: No, you gotta stay quiet. You get it's like Mansar delaying,
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  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, coach, good luck the rest of the off season.
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy the summer and maybe I'll get out there for
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: training camp and check you guys out. So all right,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: good seeing you good.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I love it.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's pretty crazy is you know, it's pretty
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  Speaker 2: well documented Patrick Mahomes and his ability to already get
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  Speaker 2: on the field. Beach talked about this like two months
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: ago that he was hoping to be ready for training camp. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: definitely week one. You can tell Andy's is definitely not
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  Speaker 2: forcing that, and he's smart to do that, but he's
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  Speaker 2: already repping in these practices. You got every time the
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  Speaker 2: the rock, and you have Micah Parsons where the report
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: today towards ACL is that he's not going to be
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: back till the middle of October potentially, and he said
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: the goal is to be ready to go for the playoffs,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: you know, to finish the season strong. But it does
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: show you how much easier it is on these guys'
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: bodies to play the quarterback position than all these other positions.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: And it gets back to something Tom Brady said years ago.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: He said, on a good high school team, the unique
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: part about my position, I could not start at any
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: other position. Couldn't play D line, couldn't play wide receiver,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: couldn't play O line, couldn't play tight, couldn't do anything
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: else on a high school level. And I think it
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: quarterback right. Once they get the stability and their achilles
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: in their knee, they're not gonna be exactly what they
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: were one hundred percent pre injury off the bat, but
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: it is a much easier runway to come back for
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: these quarterbacks. I mean, Daniel Jones broke his leg and
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: towards achilles, like ready week one. Patrick Mahomes like, give
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: me reps into OTAs. I mean, you tore your ACL
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: with a couple of games to go in the season.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: It's not like Patrick Mahomes I mentioned this to Andy Peyton.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Manning missed the entire season. Tom Brady tore his ACL
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Week one. Remember Aaron Rodgers towards Achilles five or six
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: plays into the season. Was he was banging the drum,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: drinking the dolphin blood or whatever if his team was
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: still alive to come back in December yet at defensive
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: line or pass rusher, outside linebacker, whatever you want to
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: consider Micah Parsons, you know, think about the difference in
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: terms of explosion, holding up blocks against double teams, empowering
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: guards as you're on stunts and twists. There's just so
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: much more required in terms of the force on that
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: body part than there is on the quarterbacks. You know,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: it's pretty crazy now. And in fairness to the Packers
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: who trade multiple first round picks, they give a guy
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: almost one hundred and fifty million dollars or whatever, and
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: rightfully so, I think he got one hundred and forty
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: four guaranteed. I mean, it's the biggest contract they've ever
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: signed non quarterback by a country mile. You're definitely not
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: gonna force it. You know that the Colts don't have
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: a choice. And I think one thing Patrick Mahomes has proven.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Remember he dislocated his knee, missed a week and it
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: was like back. Remember the playoff game, He like shook
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: it off, missed a halfer, was back the next week.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: He just has certain people. And this goes back to
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson, who's like an all time outlier freak. Is
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: some people just react faster. Hell I pull a back muscle.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Now I'm feeling it for a month. That's over forty.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: You have a little tweak, I add something going on
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: on my shoulder. I'm like, I pray this isn't a
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: torn labram, you know, But I just keep powering through
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: it at the gym and just we'll see where the
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: cookie crumbles on that one. But some of these guys,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: they come back really really fast. And again, I just
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: think it's a little bit easier on your extremities, especially
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: your like non throwing shoulder at the quarterback position than
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: it is all these other positions, especially offensive and defensive line,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: where everything is not only explosive movements but holding up
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: against powerful other human beings. So I think the Micah
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Parsons thing is less like an abundance of caution and
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: more just predicated on what he has to do at
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: his position. You know. The other thing I saw is
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Maria Taylor. Remember Jimmy Butler when he had that thing
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: in Minnesota where he wanted more money, they wouldn't pay him.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And he showed up in like a training camp practice
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: and he got all the backups and he said scrimmage
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: against all the starters and he just dominated it. And
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: then he like walked out of practice, said f you
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: to everybody, pay me my money, and was on with
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Rachel Nichols later that night. Just an incredible Jimmy Butler
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: moment during his career. Clearly Maria Taylor like she had
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: the insight on this one. And AJ Brown, she talked
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: to him on her podcast and he had mentioned something
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: to me that really resonated, cause I think a lot
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: of people are like you guys, you guys hate each other,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: is just because you hate the offense. I've been told
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: it's been well reported, like people like AJ Brown and
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Philly is like what's going on? And he was asking
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: about Jalen Hurts, who they used to be really close.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Part of the reason when the Eagles traded for him
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: picked seventeen. It's not like they gave up nothing. And
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: it was like, well, he's ben buddies with Jalen Hurts
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: for a long time, like they have a personal relationship.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: And then aj said something that I think we can
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: all relate to. Grew apart. Now you can argue that's
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: the political answer. It's not like he's given us all
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the tea on that one, but it's like, yeah, sometimes
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: people just grow apart. The amount of people listening to
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: this that have left a job because they didn't see
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: eyed eye with a superior, they didn't see eyed eye
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: with people they were working, you know, hand in hand with.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: He was like, I'm not feeling this, and you try
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: to battle through, especially if things are going well financially,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: like I'm making money, but this sucks. This is not
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: what I signed up for. And luckily for all of us,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: we can leave whenever we want. That is not the
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: case for players or coaches. Sometimes you could get stuck.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: The I just saw the clip that went viral about
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz who wanted the Cleveland Browns job, who thought
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: he had deserved and earned the Cleveland Browns job, and
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: you could argue like it wouldn't have been a crazy decision,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: and they ended up going with the offensive guy in Munkin,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: but they wanted Schwartz to stay. And he's like, guys, listen,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: this isn't about I don't respect Todd Munkin, but I
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: wanted this gig. I didn't get it. It's pretty well known,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: like all the players know that. And now I'm answering
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: to him like this is not gonna work. And remember
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: the Browns tried to mess with him for a little bit,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: like we're gonna hold you under contracts. Fine, I'll just
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: fucking resign. I'm sitting out and I think when you know,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: you know right, and aj Brown he didn't handle it perfectly.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: You know, while it's funny, you know that he was
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: reading the book on the sideline, that's not ideal. And
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: where did he kind of force his way to And
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: luckily they were willing to play ball with Howie and
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: give him enough where it's like, yeah, we'll just do this.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Deal.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Is the guy that he knows really well, and a
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: guy that he had a lot of uh success with
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: and a really good working relationship with, and a guy
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: that he clearly didn't want to leave. But financially, I'm
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: not sure all the dirt behind that trade. We've never
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: truly found, Like it was just the owner didn't want
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: to pay him a new content track to John Robinson
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: want out. But bottom line is he was traded and
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: it worked out really well for aj Brown. But when
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: you're not seeing eye to eye with the quarterback, it's
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: especially at a position like wide receiver, and most of
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: these wide receivers, let's just be honest, don't handle it
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: that well like quarterbacks. And you gotta give Jalen credit,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: not necessarily on the field because it started getting weird,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: but off the field, like he keeps it very professional.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: He never really lets you in. He kind of keeps this, uh,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: this outer exterior of like I'm not gonna give you
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: any of what's actually going on. Brandon Graham kind of did,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: and then Howie and the boys made him walk that
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: thing back, but he's like, yeah, we just we don't
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: see eyed eye. What he's essentially saying is I don't
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: want to work with him anymore. I don't want to
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: play with him. And even he said to Maria Taylor,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: like I still got love for the guy. It's not
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: like I hate his guts. I'm sure a lot of
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: you have left places where it's like, listen, I kind
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: of like this guy. I just don't want to work
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: with him anymore. And as a player, like you get
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: lucky when you can quote unquote force your way out.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Part of the reason they waited, you know, to June
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: one because of the cap situation. I mean, the Eagles
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: didn't foresee this happening a couple of years ago. They
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: just gave the guy contract extension. The Eagles have paid
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: this man twice. They paid him. They gave him the
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: contract when they traded for him, and then they gave
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: him the contract a couple of years later after he
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: had dominated. So I think in their mind he was
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: like he was gonna be their number one wide receiver
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: for a long time. And then personalities happen, and let's
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: face it, people change, right. Look at Jalen Hurts came
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: into this league as a second round pick that people
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: like me that watch every Oklahoma game, like, I don't
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: see this. I thought it was a crazy trade. A
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: couple of years later, the good starting quarterback. Then he's
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl, playing as well or better than Mahomes.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Then a couple of years later with the Super Bowl,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: It's like his resume speaks for itself. And it usually
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: gets down to in sports, who makes the most money.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: It's typically why when coaches and star players are at odds,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: who usually loses that argument the coach, because just look
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: at the finances. It's easier to fire the coach then
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: fire the player. And a lot of times you don't
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: want to fire the player. You want that player on
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: your team, and it's on your coach to figure it out.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: But sometimes as personalities, as human beings, you're just not
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: gonna get along. And after a while, sometimes you go
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: through some rough times and you realize, like, this is
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: not the person that I want to be around during adversity,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: because let's face it, you can get along with basically
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: anyone when times are going well, especially for us in
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the real you know, non pro sports, if you are
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: making money, you'd be like, listen, this guy's kind of
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: a scumbag. I would never want to hang out with him,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: but he's good at his gig and we're crushing, so
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna ride this way. If things start going poorly,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: and it's like the direct deposits ain't coming in you're like,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: fuck this, I'm and we've seen this song and dance
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: in football and basketball and baseball in life forever, and
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: A J. Brown ate the first and he definitely won't
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: be the last guy to be like I don't want
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: to work with this human being anymore. And this clearly
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: puts pressure, you know, on the Eagles. I saw Orlowski
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: say this puts a ton of pressure on Lemon, who
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: they just drafted high, who has somewhat of a similar
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: skills seat set in terms of like breaking tackles, being
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: physical at the point of you know, at the catch point,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: and being a guy that could just make stuff happen.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Remember we talked to Greg Cosell at the combine. He's like,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: he gets hesitant with those type players. I won't dispute
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: that Makay Lemon was a really good college player, but
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: you know, replacing AJ Brown, that's the thing. Like Jared Verse,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: he was asked about it today, He's like, I can't
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: replace Miles. I'm not coming here to replace Miles Kartt
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: And luckily he doesn't have to. Like, no one thinks
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Jared Verse is my Garrett, but Miles Garrett, who knows
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: could have like forty sacks this year, Like, what if
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: he's in thirteen games where they have the lead in
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the second half. I mean, you talk about the guy
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: at twenty five sacks and he had like a historically
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: poor offense. What's he gonna look like if their offense
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: does what has done the last couple of years. I mean,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: it could be insane. But if Jared Verse can go
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: from four and a half to seven and a half
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: to like thirteen and be a top five pressure guy
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: and to be just this young ascending player, they're gonna
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: feel really good about it. And you know they're gonna
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: need a little bit by committee to get the dominance
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: unlessen Aj wasn't dominant last year. And that's the thing
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: with these transactions, like the Patriots, you know, are they
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: getting one hundred catches in fifteen hundred yards? Probably not,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: But if they can get seventy eight to eighty two
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: and have him dominate in man coverage, which is something
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: that he excels in because he's a physical freak. He's
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: got just the ability to catch balls in contested areas,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: which is a finding skill for a lot of players.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: You know, Drake London just got a one hundred million
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: dollars guaranteed, big physical wide receiver. Now, Drake's a little
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: different than AJ Brown, but and it's a good example
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: of Drake London. Like a lot of players think about this.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: He just got this big contract. It's a brand new
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: GM and a brand new coach. Now, a good front office,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: a good coach. Even if you come in brand new,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: you want to keep your new players. But they haven't
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: been there that long and they're already like all in
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: on this guy. Pretty good sign, you know, pretty good
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: sign coming off a year. He's a little banged up,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: but two years ago he was excellent. I mean, he
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: was good when he was on the field. But you
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: gotta feel good when new people come in and they
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: believe in you and they pay you. It's like the
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: thing with Verse, Like at the end of the day,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: you were the guy that they had to have to
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: trade the best player in the history of the franchise
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: beside Jim Brown. They wanted you. Like, that's always gotta
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: be a you know, an area in turn that is
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: a confidence booster. No matter how mad you are when
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: something bad happens, when someone believes in you, that's a
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: powerful thing. So and then you can use the version
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: of being pissed off by like they got rid of me,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: even if you understand it like I would have got
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: rid of me too. For Miles Garrett, which I don't
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: expect him to quite be able to comprehend it in
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: his mid twenties, but he might look back in fifteen
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: twenty years and go like it was actually a pretty
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: big compliment, you know, because it should be. It is,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: And like it's not shocking that Mike Vrabel likes aj Brown.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: He's already been around him. They need a wide receiver
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: that can win and man and man coverage that they
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: need some positive headlines. I mean, they got a lot
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: of things going for him, right, but like not everyone
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: would have been like Jared Versu is gonna be our
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: cornerstone defensive lineman. Now maybe some people would have, but
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: the Browns definitely did that the the uh the Atlanta Falcon.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: But they did that with Drake Lindon. He's a cornerstone
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: piece for us to go with b John Robinson like that.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: That is, they believe they're all in and then the
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: money speaks for itself. He's gave him a hundred million dollars.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Nick Herbick, the pass rusher in Pittsburgh not even a starter.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I mean TJ. Watt is a guy that they've given
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: a ton of money to high Smith, who he now
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: makes more than It's like guys brand new coach, brand
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: new staff. Obviously the GM is still there and he
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: drafted him, but they just gave him four years, one
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: hundred million dollars and I think like forty five million
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: dollars guaranteed. Like that's believing, and just if you just
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: look at the tea leaves, you're like, hey, the other
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: guys might not be here forever. Who knows, maybe high
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Smith gets traded. I've always liked him. I know he's
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: battled some injuries too, but they got a lot of
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: good pass rushers, and you could never go wrong extending
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: pass rushers and having a h you know, kind of
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: having a line of guys that if someone goes down,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: the next guy can fire in there. And we've seen
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: that with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Those guys have gotten injured.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: So sometimes you you know, a guy like that who
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: gets a four year, hundred million dollar contract, what what
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: round was he drafted in? Because one of the knocks
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: on him was he was a little undersized. You know,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: he's like your classic six' four two forty not the greatest.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Athlete back When wisconsin used to get guys. Draft he's
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: a fourth round. Pick like that is THE nfl pick
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: one thirty, two one hundred million dollar, contract forty two million.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Dollars and let's face, it if he just keeps having,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: success he's gonna see more than the guaranteed. Money like
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: that is on a year per basis. Deal that's that's
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: a good. Contract and they're kind of betting on the.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: FUTURE i, mean this is a guy with fifteen career. Sacks,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: now if they think the guy can become you, know
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: a single high single digit maybe a ten sac guy
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: year in year, out that's a. Steal but there's a,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: reason and this is what we talk about. Marketplaces it's,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: like how does a guy get a hundred million dollars
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: who was An All big ten player his senior year
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: get go in the fourth. Round it's, like, well not
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: the greatest, athlete, uh not that. LONG i mean his
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: arms were thirty one, inches you, know six two two,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Forty so it's, like what's his body? Type BUT i
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: remember WHEN. Tj watt was like in the peak of
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: his powers texting a. Buddy, uh you know that's a
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: that's an ASSISTANT. Gm now being, like how did this
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: guy fall to the end of the first, Round he's, Like,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: john he did not look like that in. College, like
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: that's that's not what this version of the player. Was
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: and you, KNOW i think he was a position switch
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: like his. Brother. Uh but you, know some guys just
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: blossom a little. Later some guys Like Drake london top
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: ten pick good right, away you give him a hundred
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: million dollars. Guaranteed so some sometimes you just had you,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: KNOW Aj brown's second round pick pretty, clear pretty fast
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: in THE. Nfl this guy's. Sweet and then there are
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: other guys that are like kind of weird body types
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: to take super. High so they go in like somewhere
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: between pick one hundred and one hundred and seventy, five
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: and if they get on the right, team if they
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: get in the right, scheme they can maximize their. Self
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and obviously he did because he just got a lot of.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Money other than, that let's bring out a couple of
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: mailbag questions and then we'll get ourselves out of here on.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: This i'm actually recording this on A. Wednesday my question
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: relates to working in THE nfl and college degrees if
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: you wanted to be a, scout is a college degree
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: usually required or is it more about working your way
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: up the ladder to get experience and having relationships with.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: People it seems like coaching is more about having work
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: experience and football. Knowledge no one talks about or cares
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: if coaches have accredited. Degrees expect to Accept stefanski true throughout.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: FOOTBALL i know in college, football to coach at a,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: university you have to have a. Degree so sometimes some
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: of these guys that played college but they left early
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: to go to the, pros SOMETIMES i have to go
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: to school go back to school to get their degree
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: to become an assistant, coach a. Coordinator so every player
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: that is now a head, Coach Kirby, Smart lanekiff and
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: all these, guys they have degrees from wherever they ryan,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: day wherever they went to school and played in THE.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Nfl it definitely does not. Matter like you can get
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: hired as a quality control guy without a. Degree you,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: KNOW i could have got hired In philly without a.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Degree NOW i wouldn't have been able to get the
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: job IF i hadn't been WHERE i was At and
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the only REASON i had that job At Fresno state
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: is BECAUSE i had an undergraduate. DEGREE i technically went
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to grad school WHEN i was At Fresnel. State it
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: was like a new. Program it was like sports, management
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: and it was so. DUMB i, MEAN i have a graduate.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: DEGREE i think it was in. There it wasn't in
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: the business. School it might have been in the nutrition
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: school or. Whatever BUT i technically went to class every
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: once in a while WHEN i was working At Fresnel.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: State but, YEAH i MEAN I i think college is
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: a lot, different at least as of, now and that
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: could definitely change as college landscape. Changes but in THE,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: NFL i do you can do whatever you. Want listening
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: to today's, pod in the finance, world we say no
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: just means not right. Now that's that's that's a good,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: line and that's what less. NEED i saw him making
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: the rounds today essentially what he, said we heard, no
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: we heard. No we've been here and no for. Years
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: and the one THING i want to say About Andrew,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: berry WHO i do come think is. Genuine when they
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: changed his contract to go from like guaranteeing this year's
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: salary in free agency or the end Of march to
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: the start of the of the. SEASON i think It's
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: september first or the first game or. Whatever kind of
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: know what you're, doing you. Know so maybe they were
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: more open to it going back to the combine knowing
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: they would have big, offers or just giving them the
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: flexibility to. Listen, yeah But let's need is a relentless,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: salesman you, know and he he just lands. Deals question
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: for the, pod do you think Arch manning is gonna
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: live up to the Hype everybody automatically has him going
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: number one? OVERALL i just don't see. It and like
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: you said on a previous, pod nobody Had burrow Or.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Mendoza he has the opportunity to be the number one.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Pick when you look At texas', schedule it's. Fantastic it's
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: the reason WHERE i, MEAN i appreciate The Texas Tech
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Red raiders trying to talk a, little you know, What
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: but If I'm, texas let me see IF i can
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: find The Texas longhorn. Schedule they do open up With Texas, State,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: okay joke, game but then they Play Ohio. State so it's, Like,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Okay Texas, tech you want us to play, you we
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Play Ohio state the following. WEEK i Guess i'm sorry
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: you Play Ohio state in your non. CONFERENCE i give
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: you a little grace on Playing Texas state AND. UTSA
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: i don't know if they still. Are they used to
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: be pretty, good sixth in The american last, year so
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: not great last. Year, yeah it looked like they were
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: down a little. Bit but when you look at their,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Schedule Ohio state at, HOME i, mean there's gonna be
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: twenty five million people watching that. Game what's the date
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: on that, Thing Ohio State september. Twelfth that is the
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: opening weekend of THE. Nfl so think about. This we
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Have Seahawks Patriots, wednesday we Got Niners rams In, australia
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: and we Have Ohio State texas arch Manning saturday, night
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: and then we Have sunday And. Monday that is that
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: weekend's right up my. Alley for the first time ever
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: we've been we schedule a little family vacation with my
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: mother in, law my brother in, law his, wife their
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: daughter that week because football used to start the previous,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: week but now there's kind of. Dead, it's you, know
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: a little bit going on college, football but there's NO.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Nfl it's kind of a nice little week for me
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: to catch a breather before we just go all in on.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Ball but then he goes At, tennessee which has had good, Defenses,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: oklahoma who's gonna have one of the best defenses in the. Country,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: florida WHO i would imagine is going to be way.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Better who will see Under Pee. Golding but they're pretty.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Good Mississippi, State, okay they, suck even though they Gave
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: texas a game last. Year At Missouri missouri. SOLID i
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: mean they're starting running back got shot so AT lsu
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: and At TEXAS a and M if he, balls it's
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: gonna be pretty. Evident i'm not gonna write him. Off
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: the opportunity is ahead of. Him but like you, said
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: with the analogy THAT i, Used Mendoza, burrow Even, baker
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: he had been a multi year started At oklahoma and been,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: good no one envisioned him being the number one overall.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Pick Remember Chris mortenson rip tweeted out after that, draft
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: or you, know the year before that, draft The Baker
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Sam darnold Lamar josh the number one pick the following
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: year is gonna Be Josh. Allen and Then josh's team
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: was terrible and he wasn't that good either that. Year
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: do you think The rams agreeing to give Up verse
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: because they Thought howie and The eagles might swoop in
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: to make an offer For. GARRETT i did see An
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: instagram rumor, that if you think about, it the only
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: trade how he could have made the same, trade he
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: would have been a twenty seven to, one a two of.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Three you, know the following years he just went out
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: of throw In Jalen. Carter AND i think if you're The,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: browns can you Handle Jalen carter because he's a lot
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: for The eagles and they're. Good So Jalen carter is
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: a better player Than. Verse Like Jalen carter when he's,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: on IS i don't, know top three defensive player in the.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: League like When Jalen carter tries and is, on he
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: has every bit as dominant as anyone in the, league
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: not Name Miles. Garrett but like that had been a
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: pretty risky trade for The. BROWNS i think this is,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: safer but that would have to be his offer because
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: that's the who, Else, like you're not gonna Take Jordan.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Davis they already Got Mason. Graham they don't really have
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: pass rushers and this gets back to the next, question same,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: thing why don't The bills make any free agent runs to?
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Win like La as A bills, FAN i watched our
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: defense fail over and over with the window to win
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: so small in the. League why don't programs bet big
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: when they have a good, hand no big name wide
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: receiver and losing out On miles that they could not
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: have traded For Miles garrett because it's they to do that.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Trade Andrew berry said it yesterday and we saw what you,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: know the way it played. Out you had to include
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: a young player on a cost control contract at a premium.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Position The bills don't have that guy to give. Them
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: SO i think if you're A bills, fan you feel
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: better about The Miles garrett deal That like if it
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: had just been multiple, ones a, two and a, three
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: you would have been, like why didn't we just make that?
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Trade why didn't we get? Involved but the first thing is,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: like well We it's like we couldn't have bid on.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: That we didn't have the. Money you can go knock
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: on a five million dollar, home but if you don't
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: have the, cash like you can tour it all you,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: want check them all out On zillo who, Cares SO
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: i think you feel better about that they didn't give
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: up a second round pick FOR Dj. Moore could they
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: have been more aggressive in The Max crosby, Deal that
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: would be, one but you, know at the end of the,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: day he bounced. Back you, know in terms of The
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: ravens kind of renigged on that two first round. Picks
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: but even if you would have offered two first round,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: picks which maybe they did before The ravens backed, out
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: The ravens had a better offer because they had picked,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: fourteen so you couldn't outbid them at the time the
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: bidding was going, on and then it's hard to get
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: back in the bidding Once max Says i'm. Back that
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: would be one to keep an eye, on THOUGH i
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: just don't know who the players, Are, LIKE i wouldn't
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: have traded my first round pick If i'm them For
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Jalen waddle. McDuffie would The chiefs have done that deal for.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: McDuffie but it's, like is McDuffie making a? Change to,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: me it's someone in the front. Seven. YEAH i have
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: a hard time this offseason thinking you could have done.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: More but this gets back To Les, snead like he
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: just makes stuff. Happen he just. Does and the other
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: THING i don't think we do a good enough job
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: of is like verse WAS i THINK i Heard sneez.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: SAY i keep saying. SEVENTEEN i think it was a nineteenth.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: PICK i swear it was a seventeenth. Pick but they
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: used him for multiple, years, right they got something out of,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Him like he was really a Defensive rookie of The
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: year last, year he was a pro. Bowler so they're
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: selling on them to Get Miles. Garrett but it's not
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: like they got nothing for, That like, that that pick
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: was extremely. Valuable you, know Aj, Brown his, value even
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: though it diminished a little bit this, year still held its.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Value a guy Like Miles garrett when're getting twenty five
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: sacks a, year if he was on the, market people
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: are gonna be bidding for, him, Right but sometimes older
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: players have been banged. Up how do you maintain your? Value?
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Right it's a cryptocurrency right, now WHICH i own a
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: decent amount, of is. CRUMBLING i don't even. Check it's, like,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: yeah hopefully it comes back up in like five. Years
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: i'm in, it no getting out. Now but certain things
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: just hold their value better than, others AND i think
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: sometimes the difference to the stock market is like next
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: week stock marketing get cut by fifteen percent out of
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: just it just could, happen. Right whereas a, player if
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: you're good, enough even if you get banged up like
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: X crosby by the end of the season he need knee.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Surgery yet up until The ravens kind of got cold
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: feet and signed someone, else they were willing to trade
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: two first round picks for that. Guy so when you
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: are so good as a, player your value maintains even
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: through rocky, times, right even through times that aren't. Perfect
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: but when you're a dominant player like it, doesn't your
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: value is just sky. High But i'd argue a lot
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: of good players that had a down, year their value
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: is still extremely. High you, Know it's Like Jalen wattle
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: played on a god awful team last, Year he's got
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: traded for a first round. Pick The chiefs were awful last.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Year McDuffie wasn't as good as he was the previous two,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: years got traded for pick twenty. Nine so once you
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: establish your, value you know you can kind of maintain
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: it a little. BIT i do think the bills need
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: to be somewhat in the world of, like when can
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: we take a big swing the next big swing that
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: becomes available for whoever that may be that does it's
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: also gonna make. Sense they gotta be willing to step
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: up to the. Plate AND i would say The bears.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: TOO i think The bears and The bills are two
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: teams that, like sometimes you gotta put you know what
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: on the table and just whip it out and be,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: like we're going for. It let's see does it all the.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Time and he's had a lot of. Success that's why
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: he keeps going back to the WELL i. Think BUT
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: i said, YESTERDAY i don't have to agree with every
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: movie he's ever, made BUT i respect the hell out of.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: THEM i really. Do their philosophical belief of nos. LIKE
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: i feel like no team in the league is more
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: unfazed with no's than. Them howie gets a lot of nose,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: too and is. Relentless it's just his. Personality some people's.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Personality he's, Like, okay we'll just move, On we'll just
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: see the next. ONE a great, salesman a great. Closer
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: when they want, something they're gonna find a way to get. It,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: now you're not gonna get. Everything you, want but they
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: finagled that. One and remember The Cleveland browns at the
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: league meeting throughout THE, nba like instead of just three
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: years to be able to trade five years worth of,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Picks AND i wonder if they, thought, like, hey we
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: might Trade. Miles what if we trade him to a
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: really good team and try to get someone's first in
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: like four YEARS nba, Style it's, Like, okay your first
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: next year not going to be as, Valuable like would
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: they have rather than the second and the third taken
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: The rams first in like twenty, thirty like who. KNOWS
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: i mcveigh's going to be, There stafford's going to be long.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Gone who fucking knows that that thing could get really.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Weird it's very possible that could just be a down
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: transitional year and we own their first round. Pick my
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: guess is that's what they were, thinking and THE nfl
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: didn't care BECAUSE i don't even think it went to a.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Vote everyone's, like, yeah we're not doing that because people
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: would do that and then it would come back to
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: bite you in the. ASS i, mean can you imagine if, like,
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: yeah we'll trade our first round or like four years
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: out and all of a, sudden you have like the
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: number two pick in the draft and like an unreal
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: draft and you like need a. Quarterback probably costs your.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: JOB i mean in THE nba it happens all the,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: time cost people their. Jobs it was, like this pick
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: is going to ruin. Us but that's part of doing these.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Trades it's part of taking these. Risks and, YEAH i
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: think The bills they've, tried, Right they kind of try
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: to be. Aggressive the Von miller the signing blew up
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: in their. Face THE Dj moore, thing WHICH i think
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: is gonna be pretty. Fruitful i'd be stunned IF Dj
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: moore is not productive for. Him but, yeah we'll end on.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: That talk to everybody tomorrow For Gauzi. Friday have a great,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Day see you. Later the volume