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Speaker 1: having a moment? Satan really is having a time, and
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Speaker 1: the goal. So yeah, that being said, we're gonna hop
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Speaker 1: into the garden of today's episode. We're going to start
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Speaker 1: with a little segment on world updates. We can't necessarily,
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Speaker 1: uh go in depth into every global happening in the
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Speaker 1: span of a forty five minute, but what we're going
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Speaker 1: to try and do is acknowledge the events that have
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Speaker 1: to start with something that I think is very much
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Speaker 1: ongoing and part of a much larger issue. But this
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Speaker 1: is about what's been happening at Echo Park Lake and
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Speaker 1: Echo Park Rising essentially, So the ALSA do you want
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Speaker 1: to like kind of give us a recap of what's
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Speaker 1: been happening in Silver Lake? Yeah, absolutely so. If you're
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Speaker 1: from l A, if you've visited l A, you know
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Speaker 1: that we are in a housing crisis. There have been
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Speaker 1: a lot of efforts to declare it as a state
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Speaker 1: of emergency, because that is it's really what's happening. Compounded
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Speaker 1: by a pandemic. Things have gotten really bad. So if
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Speaker 1: you've driven by Echo Park Lake, you may have seen
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Speaker 1: that there were a lot of tents, um there were
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Speaker 1: a lot of homeless folks taking refuge at Echo Park Lake,
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Speaker 1: and there's been For me, I think it's been really
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Speaker 1: hard to keep up with the story because I've seen
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Speaker 1: a lot of conflicting information, and so we just want
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Speaker 1: to encourage folks to do their own research and we
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Speaker 1: can link some some different news articles in our newsletters
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Speaker 1: so that y'all can be informed as to what's going on.
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Speaker 1: But essentially, UM, the council member of that district, Mitchell Ferrell,
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Speaker 1: decided that they were going to do a sweep and
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Speaker 1: so what that means is literally a sweep, and so
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Speaker 1: you would have to leave all the houseless folks that
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Speaker 1: were there, would have to take their belongings and essentially
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Speaker 1: find a new place. However, also want to recognize that
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Speaker 1: efforts were made with Urban Alchemy to UM get folks
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Speaker 1: housed and to get them into temporary housing which would
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Speaker 1: hopefully lead to permanent supportive housing. UM and I say
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Speaker 1: that there's been a lot of conflicting information because we
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Speaker 1: saw this number. I want to say about a hundred
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Speaker 1: and sixty five people were connected to Project Room Key.
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Speaker 1: Yes to Project Room Key. Simultaneously, I've seen folks say,
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Speaker 1: actually we were promised room but turns out there weren't
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Speaker 1: any rooms, right, And so I think that it's a
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Speaker 1: evolving story, and um, I want to shout or I
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Speaker 1: want to recognize the folks on the ground that have
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Speaker 1: been providing services, you know, and recognize that there have
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Speaker 1: been people trying to provide services. Two houses folks four months, right,
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Speaker 1: And we hope to have a guest in the future
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Speaker 1: to talk more about that. So, Mala, do you want
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Speaker 1: to add anything. Yeah, it's tragic, is like, it's beyond
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Speaker 1: tragic what's been happening in l A. L A isn't
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Speaker 1: the only place that has been hit hard by displacement
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Speaker 1: and evictions. And I think one of the issues here
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Speaker 1: is that we've gotten really no rent relief in the
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Speaker 1: city over the course of the pandemic. There's been no
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Speaker 1: rent relief. The alleged eviction moratorium where like when because
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Speaker 1: I think that there have been ongoing evictions, you know,
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Speaker 1: as soon as landlords were able to evict people, I
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Speaker 1: think they started doing it. And I'm sure that there
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Speaker 1: have been families and some people who have gotten like
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Speaker 1: some reprieve or who have gotten a little bit of help,
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Speaker 1: but it's been nowhere near enough and so what I've
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Speaker 1: definitely noticed, and if you're from l A or live
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Speaker 1: in l A or have passed through, you've probably seen that.
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Speaker 1: It's just exploded the amount of houselessness. And the first
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Speaker 1: time I drove by Echo Park Lake, I hadn't been
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Speaker 1: in Silver Lake for months because I was staying home
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Speaker 1: and kind of just staying on my side of town
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Speaker 1: per the quarantine. And the first time that I really
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Speaker 1: drove by during the pandemic, I was in complete shock
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Speaker 1: and blown away, not necessarily surprised, but really really overwhelmed
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Speaker 1: by how many tents and such um little buildings people basically,
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Speaker 1: you know, are creating for themselves shelters that people are
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Speaker 1: building for themselves at Eco Park Lake, and not just there,
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Speaker 1: but in Culver City, all over downtown in El Serino
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Speaker 1: on Huntington's Drive, I've never seen homeless people there, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it's like, what I want
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Speaker 1: to make clear is these are our neighbors, Like these
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Speaker 1: are formerly housed people who have been forced out of
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Speaker 1: their housing and forced onto the streets or into parks
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Speaker 1: and such. And in the city of Los Angeles and
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Speaker 1: in the county, I don't think we've ever really had
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Speaker 1: an appropriate or permanent response to houselessness. I think that
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Speaker 1: what ends up happening. And we oh, my god, we've
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Speaker 1: seen sweep so many times when they bring in big
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Speaker 1: dump trucks and they literally take away everyone's stuff and
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Speaker 1: throw away everyone's stuff. And when you do that to
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Speaker 1: a houseless person, you're probably throwing away their medication and
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Speaker 1: their important documents and the things that they have, you know,
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Speaker 1: gathered together to survive. And if you've I've I don't
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Speaker 1: know if anybody out there has ever met a houseless
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Speaker 1: person after a sweep, But when I was working at
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Speaker 1: p O V, I remember they're on Boudre. There's always
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Speaker 1: been encampments, and one day they did a sweep and
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Speaker 1: a lot of houseless people have appointments during the day
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Speaker 1: and jobs, and I remember there was a houseless woman
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Speaker 1: who walked by and one of my co workers spoke
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Speaker 1: to her and and I also spoke to her in
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Speaker 1: front of the building, and she was like, I went
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Speaker 1: this woman, this poor woman told us that she had
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Speaker 1: gone fro an appointment and when she went back to
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Speaker 1: her tenant was just gone. All of her stuff was gone.
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Speaker 1: So you know, she's like alone in the city. With
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Speaker 1: like nothing except what's on her person, and it's not
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Speaker 1: an answer, you know, it's not a solution. It throws
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Speaker 1: people into further um disarray. And I think that one
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Speaker 1: of the other unfortunate things is like I think that
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Speaker 1: sometimes service providers like provide options that are kind of
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Speaker 1: like not really options because for example, like if you're
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Speaker 1: houseless and you don't have a car and transportation, like
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Speaker 1: you can't just get all over the county and the
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Speaker 1: city like on a whim. It takes a lot for
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Speaker 1: somebody to get from one part of the city to
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Speaker 1: to the other. So I think one of the issues
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Speaker 1: with Project room Key is like Echo Park Lake is
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Speaker 1: in Silver Lake, and I think that the hotel that
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Speaker 1: they were offering rooms at was like in Downey or something,
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Speaker 1: which is just not feasible. It's not appropriate for the solution.
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Speaker 1: And like I think if we think about like what's
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Speaker 1: been kind of going on in Elserino and South Pass
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Speaker 1: and like those cal Trans houses, and there have been
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Speaker 1: movements recently over the course of the pandemic to try
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Speaker 1: and reclaim those empty houses like house those people are
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Speaker 1: making very clear like we live here, we would like
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Speaker 1: to live here in this empty open space. But I
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Speaker 1: think that service providers are sometimes too controlling with like,
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Speaker 1: well know, if you're going to get help, it has
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Speaker 1: to be our kind of help, like in our location
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Speaker 1: and where we decide you're going to be. But it's
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Speaker 1: just or you can't bring your pets, you know, you
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Speaker 1: can't bring all your bags and your suitcases and your stuff.
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Speaker 1: You know, you have to come all the way out here.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think that like the city
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Speaker 1: in the county have a lot of work to do,
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Speaker 1: and I think that like we have to be more compassionate,
12:38
Speaker 1: especially when we think about how our neighborhoods do not
12:43
Speaker 1: benefit at all from these like really stringent like policies
12:48
Speaker 1: and policing and like gutting social services and gutting housing,
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Speaker 1: like none of us benefit from that. And I think
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Speaker 1: that the proof is in the pudding here. What I
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Speaker 1: also want to add, like part of it is also
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Speaker 1: being like pro solutions, so like, for example, folks that
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Speaker 1: are homeowners right, because a lot of the pushback comes
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Speaker 1: from homeowners when there is any type of um for
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Speaker 1: example a bridge home right as like a county initiative right,
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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of pushback from homeowners in their
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Speaker 1: respective communities or cities where they say, well, we don't
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Speaker 1: want supportive housing here, we don't want permanent supportive housing here,
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Speaker 1: But then they then they also don't want encampments, and
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Speaker 1: so you can't have both. You can't have you can't
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Speaker 1: not want encampments but then also not want permanent supportive housing, right,
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Speaker 1: And so part of it is being like pro solutions, right.
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Speaker 1: And so I think folks that like want to get involved,
13:44
Speaker 1: like getting involved locally and like letting your city council
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Speaker 1: people know like you want permanent supportive housing, right, because
13:51
Speaker 1: like Mala mentioned, these are literally our community members are neighbors, right,
13:55
Speaker 1: And so having leading with compassion I think is going
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Speaker 1: to be key and also getting involved because those folks
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Speaker 1: that don't want permanent supportive housing and they don't want solutions,
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Speaker 1: you best believe that they are at those city council
14:08
Speaker 1: meetings sharing their public comments. They're all over Facebook, Like
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Speaker 1: I see them in the comments as well, like saying
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Speaker 1: like we don't want this here. It's just humanizing too
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Speaker 1: houseless folks. So that's one way to get involved, you know,
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Speaker 1: like be vocal that you want solutions and you want
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Speaker 1: permanent supportive housing in your neighborhood. So of course, um,
14:31
Speaker 1: there's always more to learn. I suggest checking out the
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Speaker 1: Echo Park Rising hashtag and folks who have been reporting
14:39
Speaker 1: from on the ground, you know. I follow the l
14:43
Speaker 1: A Taco folks and the l A Times folks, And
14:46
Speaker 1: if you are into local news, I suggest getting on
14:49
Speaker 1: Twitter because a lot of journalists are out there on
14:51
Speaker 1: the street and like streaming live and reporting directly. So um,
14:56
Speaker 1: you know, get yourself educated and find out ways to
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Speaker 1: to help in your immediate circle of influence. So that's
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Speaker 1: our update for houselessness and Echo Park Rising. But of
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Speaker 1: course there's a lot going on in the world, and
15:10
Speaker 1: we also wanted to talk a little bit about the
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Speaker 1: ongoing right, historical and current present day violence against Asian
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Speaker 1: Americans that has been taken taking place, and we want
15:22
Speaker 1: to talk about the Stop Asian Hate conversation and initiative
15:27
Speaker 1: and make sure that we cover that on the podcast
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Speaker 1: as well, because of course, our audience is a predominantly
15:32
Speaker 1: Latin X audience, and our community is not free of
15:37
Speaker 1: anti Asian prejudice and anti Asian racism. So I think
15:42
Speaker 1: that we are just as responsible, uh for ensuring that
15:46
Speaker 1: we're doing our own educating and not contributing to this issue. Yes, absolutely, Malla,
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Speaker 1: thank you for saying that, because you know here at
15:54
Speaker 1: look at that we've been saying this four years now.
15:57
Speaker 1: The work starts at home and it really us take
16:00
Speaker 1: like those uncomfortable conversations with your family where you say, like,
16:04
Speaker 1: this is not like your racial comments, your hateful comments
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Speaker 1: are not just jokes, right, things are not just jokes anymore.
16:11
Speaker 1: There's like implicit violence in that, and there's also real
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Speaker 1: life consequences. As we see there has been a exponential
16:20
Speaker 1: rise in hate crimes against Asian Americans and the Asian community.
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Speaker 1: And we will be having a guest on our next
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Speaker 1: episode UM that will be speaking about the current climate
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Speaker 1: in the US and also the historical context as well.
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Speaker 1: And so we just want you to know that we
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16:42
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17:40
Speaker 1: Onto some global pop culture news, Selena the Series Part
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Speaker 1: two is set to air soon. It's going to drop soon.
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Speaker 1: If you have been listening to the podcast, you're following
17:51
Speaker 1: us on social media, you will know that I had
17:53
Speaker 1: a very strong reaction to Part one of Selena the
17:56
Speaker 1: Series and all of their promotional materials. So we want
17:59
Speaker 1: to just acknowledge that Part two is coming out. We
18:03
Speaker 1: have seen the trailer. What do you think so far?
18:07
Speaker 1: What do you think about the new trailer and what
18:09
Speaker 1: are your expectations for part two? Okay, so I have
18:13
Speaker 1: low expectations. I'll be honest, I have low expectations. However,
18:20
Speaker 1: I want to reiterate that I want it to be good,
18:24
Speaker 1: like I don't want it to fail. I don't want
18:26
Speaker 1: it to be bad. I don't want a poor representation
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Speaker 1: of Selena. I don't want any of those things right.
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Speaker 1: And so I hope that it's good. I hope that
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Speaker 1: it's centered on Selena. I understand wanting to highlight more
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Speaker 1: of the band. I get that. I hope that it's
18:42
Speaker 1: the band in relation to Selena and we get to
18:45
Speaker 1: see her relationships with each member in different ways. Um. So, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I hope that it's good, but I have low expectations. Yeah,
18:53
Speaker 1: I um to reiterate my gripes from season one, you know,
18:59
Speaker 1: if less we forget. I thought that it was truly
19:03
Speaker 1: tragic the way that Selena, the title character, had almost
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Speaker 1: no screen time and very few lines of a very
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Speaker 1: very shallow storyline I felt was written for Selena as
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Speaker 1: a character. And when it comes to season two, I've
19:22
Speaker 1: seen the trailer. It's the Houston Astrodome. I think that
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Speaker 1: they're doing a better job at editing the dancing. Um,
19:28
Speaker 1: the dancing looks a little bit better, you know, but
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is editing. I don't
19:33
Speaker 1: want to be an overly harsh critic, but I will
19:36
Speaker 1: say that the season, the Part two trailer centers the
19:41
Speaker 1: Houston Astrodome concert, the show where she's in her glitterally
19:46
Speaker 1: glittery purple jumpsuit, you know the one. So this is
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Speaker 1: like iconic, iconic, this scene, the jumpsuit, the Astrodome, the
19:55
Speaker 1: disco medley, the whole thing. I also want to say,
19:59
Speaker 1: I really hope that they don't write out Don Shelton
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Speaker 1: out of Part two. I actually have to go back
20:06
Speaker 1: and watch the trailer again because I don't think that
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Speaker 1: she has backup dancers on the stage with her. I
20:12
Speaker 1: think it's the band, it's the musicians, but I don't
20:16
Speaker 1: see backup dancers on the stage. And I just want
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Speaker 1: to say that Don Shelton, for those maybe who are
20:20
Speaker 1: not familiar with the name, he was Selena's one of
20:23
Speaker 1: Selena's backup dancers who I feel when you watch Selena's
20:28
Speaker 1: most iconic concert footage and her dance sequences that when
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Speaker 1: she's dancing with Don Shelton, they have the the most
20:35
Speaker 1: amazing dance chemistry and on stage chemistry. Don Shelton has
20:40
Speaker 1: passed away. He's been um passed for a few years now,
20:44
Speaker 1: but he was her one of her only black backup
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Speaker 1: dancers who consistently like in her shows and in the
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Speaker 1: Houston Astrodome show specifically, right, And I think it's really
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Speaker 1: important that he'd be it because I'm in as far
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Speaker 1: as like the production, the show, the iconic imagery, our footage,
21:05
Speaker 1: like he's there, He's part of her story in a
21:08
Speaker 1: lot of their interviews, like where they included the dancers
21:12
Speaker 1: in the band, you know, Selena and Don had like
21:14
Speaker 1: a really fun back and forth and red parte and
21:17
Speaker 1: like just really great like on screen chemistry and everything.
21:20
Speaker 1: So I also want to say that, like I expect
21:23
Speaker 1: Don Shelton and I don't see him, I will be upset.
21:26
Speaker 1: Now it's important, I agree, um because he was an
21:30
Speaker 1: important member of the team as well. And so yeah,
21:33
Speaker 1: I agree. We cannot erase someone from her team, one
21:37
Speaker 1: of the only black members that we know of that
21:39
Speaker 1: was on her team, right, And so I'm hoping for
21:43
Speaker 1: the best. And that being said, we are actually going
21:46
Speaker 1: to be in conversation with but it is. We had
21:51
Speaker 1: an episode with her last year when we discussed Selena
21:54
Speaker 1: the series, and we are going to be in conversation
21:56
Speaker 1: with her virtually. You see, Santa Barbara is hosting it
22:00
Speaker 1: my alma mater and it's going to be at four
22:02
Speaker 1: pm Pacific CENTERD time. I will put the link in
22:04
Speaker 1: the show notes so y'all can register. It's free. We're
22:07
Speaker 1: going to be in conversation. We're going to talk about
22:09
Speaker 1: her book Selenida, and also how we collectively remember Selena Selena.
22:16
Speaker 1: So register, it's free. It's gonna be good. This is amazing.
22:21
Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to that episode, go back and listen. Yeah,
22:25
Speaker 1: and if you want even more podcasting about Selena Kinthenia,
22:30
Speaker 1: I recommend you tune into Anything for Selena, the podcast
22:34
Speaker 1: from NPR by Maria Garcia, USA, and I actually interviewed
22:39
Speaker 1: with Maria, and you can hear us chat a little
22:42
Speaker 1: bit about Selena and our relationship with her, our thoughts
22:46
Speaker 1: about the show. Go ahead and tune in. It's an amazing,
22:49
Speaker 1: amazing podcast, so you can get all kinds of in
22:53
Speaker 1: depth Selena history to like really fill in the context
22:56
Speaker 1: for you. Oh and also our episode is in Spanish,
23:00
Speaker 1: so hedge over and listen to that one. We talk
23:03
Speaker 1: about specifically Selena and the body right, the body politics, culture,
23:10
Speaker 1: UM and it's all in Spanish. We did our best,
23:12
Speaker 1: y'all don't come for us, So we tried, we tried. Um. Yeah,
23:18
Speaker 1: and so that is all in terms of updates, and
23:21
Speaker 1: we want to move on to a listener favor. One
23:23
Speaker 1: of our favorite segments called Weird Things White Women Did?
23:27
Speaker 1: Can you introduce this to us? Mala, yes, one of
23:31
Speaker 1: our favorite segments. We don't always include it because we
23:36
Speaker 1: need a triggering event. Something needs to happen, a white
23:39
Speaker 1: lady needs to do something weird and then we have
23:43
Speaker 1: a segment. So this week on Weird Things White Women did,
23:46
Speaker 1: we have a couple. We have a couple of examples.
23:49
Speaker 1: We want to start with Dr Jill Biden. Poor things
23:53
Speaker 1: she tried, She tried. It was the cea sampled away
23:59
Speaker 1: heard round world on Caesar chop As Day. Obviously, tell
24:05
Speaker 1: us more about Dr Jill Bilsa. You know, Dr Joe
24:11
Speaker 1: Biden seems like a very lovely, well meaning white woman.
24:14
Speaker 1: I will say that because they exist, you know those
24:16
Speaker 1: like very just nice, poly well meaning white women, and
24:20
Speaker 1: then they do something dumb and they try to speak
24:24
Speaker 1: in Spanish to you. You know the ones they're out there.
24:28
Speaker 1: You probably have encountered them. Lots of times, right, And
24:32
Speaker 1: there's just something always cringe e about them trying to
24:35
Speaker 1: speak Spanish to you. And also it's a microaggression it is,
24:40
Speaker 1: and maybe like a macro aggression depending on what happens
24:43
Speaker 1: right right, um, And so she was trying to see
24:48
Speaker 1: say see sip boy. Then she'll say it with me,
24:52
Speaker 1: say what way the future is a thank you? And
24:57
Speaker 1: I feel kind of bad because look, give me a language.
25:01
Speaker 1: I can really only pronounce things in English, and you know,
25:05
Speaker 1: I could do a pretty good job in Spanish. Like
25:08
Speaker 1: I'm still the ila, Like it's not perfect, but I
25:12
Speaker 1: think that there is, Like I don't know, we gotta
25:15
Speaker 1: like if I can't say this word folks, Like I
25:19
Speaker 1: can't say it like I've tried, I've practiced it, it
25:21
Speaker 1: might come up as offensive if I try. Is there
25:26
Speaker 1: another way that I can honor this community and acknowledge
25:30
Speaker 1: them without butchering their language? Well, I I think like
25:34
Speaker 1: it just speaks larger to like politicians pandering to Latinos
25:39
Speaker 1: by speaking Spanish. And we see that every election cycle, um,
25:45
Speaker 1: where people start doing their whole speeches in Spanish and
25:48
Speaker 1: it's mildly offensive, you know, Like I can't forgive like
25:54
Speaker 1: a phrase, right, Jill, she said it wrong, she mispronounced it.
25:58
Speaker 1: Someone on her teams did I preper correctly or maybe
26:00
Speaker 1: maybe they did and she just sucked it up right.
26:02
Speaker 1: I can forgive that, But like whole speeches in Spanish
26:07
Speaker 1: when you're not a Spanish speaker, like I would rather
26:11
Speaker 1: a paid translator, you know, like hire an actual translator
26:16
Speaker 1: to translate your speech, you know, audibly. Um. I think
26:19
Speaker 1: that that's fine. I think that's appropriate. But I think
26:22
Speaker 1: like the pandering is like where it gets really cringe e.
26:26
Speaker 1: It gets really cringe e. And you know, I mean
26:28
Speaker 1: it's like this too. Um, we care about things other
26:33
Speaker 1: than you know, and we don't have to do this
26:38
Speaker 1: every time we talk about the Latino community. But not
26:41
Speaker 1: everybody's being Spanish exactly, you know, And so they narrow
26:46
Speaker 1: in on this like one detail that they're like, well
26:49
Speaker 1: enough of them, the growing number of like us Latinos
26:53
Speaker 1: probably speak more Spanguish than anything. It's like in evolving language.
26:58
Speaker 1: We know that it's a living language, we speak it.
27:01
Speaker 1: It has its own rules. You can't just like say,
27:05
Speaker 1: decide which word is going to be said in Spanish
27:07
Speaker 1: and what world is going to be said in English.
27:09
Speaker 1: That's when we know your phony, you know, like, it
27:11
Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. It has its own rules, um.
27:15
Speaker 1: And also regionally like each like region of the states,
27:19
Speaker 1: like has their own Spanish rules, like Spanguish in l A.
27:22
Speaker 1: It's going to sound different than Spanglish in Miami or
27:25
Speaker 1: Spanish in the on the East Coast in New York
27:28
Speaker 1: or Boston, what have you? Right? So, yeah, recognized as always,
27:33
Speaker 1: Latinet folks are not a monolith. We don't all speak Spanish.
27:35
Speaker 1: Some of us do, some of us don't. Yeah, yeah,
27:39
Speaker 1: so I don't know, Dr Jill. You tried, tried, girl,
27:45
Speaker 1: she tried, she tried. We forgive her. We forgive her.
27:49
Speaker 1: You know, message to politicians if you don't speak the language,
27:53
Speaker 1: like don't I would just say, don't force it. Don't
27:56
Speaker 1: force it. Like you also said, hire the translator, you know,
28:00
Speaker 1: pay someone from the community to appropriately deliver the message. Yes,
28:07
Speaker 1: I agree, yeah who And there's more. There are more
28:12
Speaker 1: weird things that white women have done. And just to
28:15
Speaker 1: be clear, you know, um, these are things that are
28:17
Speaker 1: not just confined to this week or this moment. Most
28:21
Speaker 1: of these are issues like that have history behind them. Right.
28:24
Speaker 1: One of them, being as you all know, I have
28:27
Speaker 1: been take I'm one of many people who have really
28:32
Speaker 1: started practicing roller skating and such during the pandemic. I
28:36
Speaker 1: started practicing my backwards skating and my tricks and my
28:40
Speaker 1: this and my that. You know, I roller bladed and
28:43
Speaker 1: I did some ice skating as a kid, and it's
28:46
Speaker 1: something that's kind of always been with me because it's
28:48
Speaker 1: so fun. Right, So, a few years ago I bought
28:50
Speaker 1: my roller skates. I was really only skating indoors. I
28:53
Speaker 1: would go to World on Wheels because that's my local
28:56
Speaker 1: rink closest to my home. And it was in there
29:00
Speaker 1: twenty when I noticed, right like all these women in
29:04
Speaker 1: particular posting their roller skating videos and all the really
29:09
Speaker 1: fun tricks they were doing, all the fun locations they
29:11
Speaker 1: were skating at. I got really into skating at the beach,
29:14
Speaker 1: especially the boardwalk in Santa Monica. And something I want
29:16
Speaker 1: to talk about is what some folks refer to as
29:19
Speaker 1: skate etiquette, right, and uh, the skate community, depending on
29:24
Speaker 1: where you're at, but especially in Los Angeles, is very diverse.
29:29
Speaker 1: But what I have learned over the course of like
29:33
Speaker 1: my practice and getting more involved like in this in
29:37
Speaker 1: this world is that skating, especially dance skating and jam
29:42
Speaker 1: skating in l A is an art form that has
29:45
Speaker 1: really been uh perfected by black skaters, by black skaters
29:50
Speaker 1: who have been skating at the Venice Boardwalk for years,
29:54
Speaker 1: who have been skating at different indoor rinks for years
29:58
Speaker 1: for decades, and really in evading the skating that we
30:02
Speaker 1: see super popularized now on Instagram. So something that I
30:05
Speaker 1: have come to learn, you know, when I first started,
30:08
Speaker 1: I was seeing like a lot of influencers and folks
30:11
Speaker 1: posting like Anna Octo and a lot of skaters who
30:14
Speaker 1: are like thin white women. And one of the moves
30:18
Speaker 1: that especially other beginners skaters have probably seen and been
30:21
Speaker 1: wanting to practice and emulate, I know I have, is
30:24
Speaker 1: this one movement called the sexy walk, which is like
30:27
Speaker 1: you're walking in place on your skates, one foot in
30:30
Speaker 1: front of the other, or you're going backwards. And I
30:33
Speaker 1: saw like a lot of influencers posting like, oh Anna
30:35
Speaker 1: Octo has like the illest like sexy walk. It's like
30:38
Speaker 1: the smoothest sexy walk, like she's so good. We'll come
30:41
Speaker 1: to find right that that specific move was actually like
30:45
Speaker 1: invented and made popular by a black woman skater named
30:48
Speaker 1: Star who's from l A. So in my learning to skate,
30:53
Speaker 1: it's like coming to realize that even those very specific
30:57
Speaker 1: like moves that anybody is doing and learning, but you
31:00
Speaker 1: probably invented that and in l A. In any case,
31:04
Speaker 1: most of those skaters have been like o G Black skaters.
31:08
Speaker 1: And it's been interesting because apparently some of the more
31:12
Speaker 1: popular newer like white women skate influencers with like hundreds
31:18
Speaker 1: of thousands of followers, some of them have been like
31:23
Speaker 1: learning from the O G Black skaters, many of whom
31:25
Speaker 1: like do not really charge for their lessons. It's very
31:29
Speaker 1: much like this is the culture, this is the knowledge.
31:33
Speaker 1: Like if you show up and you're respectful and you're
31:36
Speaker 1: dedicated and you want to learn, like we will teach
31:39
Speaker 1: you, you you can learn, right. But then a lot of
31:42
Speaker 1: these thin white women skate influencers with who have gotten
31:45
Speaker 1: like gigs and like do alipa music videos and commercials,
31:50
Speaker 1: some of them have in a pretty short amount of
31:53
Speaker 1: time learned these moves from O G Black skaters, then
31:56
Speaker 1: flip the knowledge and started charging skate lessons. Some of
32:00
Speaker 1: these women apparently for a hundred dollars a session, which
32:03
Speaker 1: apparently is extremely unheard of. And then allegedly, uh, some
32:09
Speaker 1: of these white women and not showing up for their sessions,
32:12
Speaker 1: that they charged people a hundred dollars for not refunding people.
32:16
Speaker 1: I haven't done like a forensic investigation, but I'm following,
32:20
Speaker 1: just along, following along online the conversation. So if you're
32:24
Speaker 1: a skater and you're out there, you know, of course
32:27
Speaker 1: I'm super new. This is like my very shallow sort
32:30
Speaker 1: of understanding of what's been going on. I recommend that
32:33
Speaker 1: you follow accounts like um Farren, Lily Skates a lot Um,
32:39
Speaker 1: just Stara, There's Sweet Hazel Roxy, Like there's all these
32:44
Speaker 1: black women skaters both in l A and out of
32:46
Speaker 1: skate who have been commenting and sharing and just kind
32:50
Speaker 1: of giving some insight into the history and the appropriation
32:53
Speaker 1: and what's been going on. So I say, like, if
32:56
Speaker 1: you're gonna skate, and you're gonna show up at like
32:59
Speaker 1: historically black skate locations, make sure you know your history,
33:03
Speaker 1: that you're being respectful, that you're not taking knowledge that
33:07
Speaker 1: took decades to develop and skate styles that you know,
33:10
Speaker 1: o G. Black skaters have been innovating on and then
33:13
Speaker 1: like taking credit and like charging people hundred dollars for it.
33:16
Speaker 1: That's not cool, guys. That is some white nonsense, honestly,
33:23
Speaker 1: Like the audacity to charge people something that you were
33:27
Speaker 1: taught for free or on the low, that is wild.
33:31
Speaker 1: One thing is like you develop your craft, you taught yourself,
33:36
Speaker 1: you trained, you studied, and you start your own like
33:40
Speaker 1: small business or charging or whatever. Another thing is like
33:43
Speaker 1: someone taught you for free and now you're going to
33:46
Speaker 1: take their concept and like run with it as if
33:49
Speaker 1: it's your own. That's not a good book. That's really bad.
33:53
Speaker 1: That's very unethical. Actually, it's very unethical. And what I
33:58
Speaker 1: also find interesting is like even when I was barely
34:03
Speaker 1: starting and doing posting my little progress, there were followers
34:08
Speaker 1: already deeming me and asking me if I would teach
34:11
Speaker 1: skate lessons, which was weird because I'm like, do you
34:14
Speaker 1: not see how bad I am? Like I'm literally posting
34:18
Speaker 1: video evidence of how I'm learning and how I'm so
34:21
Speaker 1: new and noviouce so something that definitely to me stood
34:26
Speaker 1: out with this with uh, you know, the appropriation in
34:30
Speaker 1: the skate community and the charging in the lessons is like,
34:33
Speaker 1: if you have enough of a following and enough name
34:36
Speaker 1: recognition and enough clout, folks are going to reach out
34:41
Speaker 1: to you for the opportunity to like learn from you specifically,
34:45
Speaker 1: like as a persona And so it's it's your responsibility then,
34:49
Speaker 1: as an influencer or whatever, as someone who's a viillable
34:53
Speaker 1: visible to not take people's money for things that you
34:57
Speaker 1: can't deliver on. Like I it was funny to me,
35:00
Speaker 1: but I can also see how this can happen. Right,
35:04
Speaker 1: You have a little bit of a following. People like
35:06
Speaker 1: you you're doing something, they want to learn from you
35:09
Speaker 1: or do the thing with you. Right, So I'm getting
35:11
Speaker 1: d M from people asking me if I'll teach them
35:14
Speaker 1: skate lessons. And I don't teach skate lessons. I'm new,
35:17
Speaker 1: I'm I'm learning, Like I can't teach you this, you know.
35:20
Speaker 1: So I think that that's part of the conversation too,
35:22
Speaker 1: is like could you not refer them to somebody that
35:27
Speaker 1: you learned from, Like, actually you should go learn from
35:30
Speaker 1: this person. Yeah. Also, like what the funk? Like why
35:34
Speaker 1: is I mean, I know why capitalism, right, but there's
35:37
Speaker 1: just so much pressure to monetize your fucking hobby. Just skate,
35:41
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like have fun have your
35:43
Speaker 1: little skate crew, Like we really have to monetize, Like
35:46
Speaker 1: we're in a moment now, we're in a time period
35:49
Speaker 1: where we really are monetizing everything, you know, everything, and
35:54
Speaker 1: like one thing is your hustle and another thing is
35:56
Speaker 1: like I'm going to steal from people and call it
35:58
Speaker 1: my own. Yeah, uh, you know. I mean, it took
36:01
Speaker 1: us a long time to even feel comfortable monetizing this podcast,
36:07
Speaker 1: like really, like it has taken us so long to
36:10
Speaker 1: feel like it's appropriate for us to earn money or
36:15
Speaker 1: charge money or make money. We felt like we had
36:18
Speaker 1: to put in a certain amount of time and work
36:21
Speaker 1: and demonstrated whatever before we could put a dollar sign
36:25
Speaker 1: on this. And so I think, as with all things,
36:28
Speaker 1: it's like self awareness, give credit to people who taught you,
36:33
Speaker 1: and like, you know, it takes a while to become
36:36
Speaker 1: really good at something and to be in a position
36:39
Speaker 1: to ethically charge people for your knowledge. So, I don't know,
36:42
Speaker 1: weird things white women did this week. That's a little snapshot,
36:45
Speaker 1: and we'd love to hear more. If you have insights,
36:48
Speaker 1: if you have more information, if you have like I
36:50
Speaker 1: don't know, uh gossip, cheeseman that you want to share
36:53
Speaker 1: a different perspective. You're always welcome to email us or
36:56
Speaker 1: d M S if there is a weird thing a
36:58
Speaker 1: white woman did, you can also let us know about it.
37:02
Speaker 1: We can look into it and maybe talk about it
37:04
Speaker 1: on a future episode. Alright, y'all, we still have some
37:08
Speaker 1: more things to cover, so we're gonna head into a
37:10
Speaker 1: quick song break, and we will be right back or
37:15
Speaker 1: Belly and and and and and and and and and
37:23
Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and
37:30
Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and
37:42
Speaker 1: and um um um um um um um um um
37:50
Speaker 1: um um um um um um um of it and
37:57
Speaker 1: bill ship mum. All right, and now to get into
38:03
Speaker 1: the very tender, very juicy, very flavorful garner of today's episode,
38:10
Speaker 1: And we want to talk about Satan having a moment
38:13
Speaker 1: um the devil being one of our favorite pop culture icons,
38:17
Speaker 1: and the most recent sort of controversy surrounding this topic
38:23
Speaker 1: has to do with Little Nas and his new music
38:27
Speaker 1: video for Montero call Me by Your Name, which I
38:31
Speaker 1: think has a lot of artistic parallels to our look
38:35
Speaker 1: at that our Radio season five visuals. We will tap
38:39
Speaker 1: into that in a little bit, but basically, Little Nas,
38:43
Speaker 1: who we love, who's extremely talented and makes incredible music,
38:46
Speaker 1: came out with some really exciting, really cool visuals in
38:50
Speaker 1: a music video for call Me by Your Name, and
38:53
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of interesting outcry and responses to it. Really,
39:10
Speaker 1: as always, the conservatives are mad. And I feel like
39:14
Speaker 1: a real heathen or just like a regular person because
39:18
Speaker 1: I watched the music video and I was like, I
39:19
Speaker 1: don't get it. What's the problem, you know, like this
39:23
Speaker 1: is just some real recovering Catholic ship because I'm just like,
39:25
Speaker 1: I don't get it with the problem. I don't think
39:28
Speaker 1: that the video is scandalous, you know, like in the
39:30
Speaker 1: music video, he like goes to hell literally, because that's
39:35
Speaker 1: what we tell queer Well, that's what society tells queer
39:39
Speaker 1: people or folks of the lgbt Q identity, right, that
39:42
Speaker 1: they will be going to Hell um if they partake
39:45
Speaker 1: in a quot particular lifestyle, right, if they choose to
39:48
Speaker 1: live their life in a certain way, um, disobeying God
39:52
Speaker 1: right um. And there's you know, you know how the
39:55
Speaker 1: conservative Christians are, how the Catholics are, how they're very religious,
39:59
Speaker 1: Bible touching people are. And so he does exactly that.
40:04
Speaker 1: He goes to Hell and he gives it a left dance.
40:07
Speaker 1: I don't see what the problem is. You say, we're
40:10
Speaker 1: going to hell anyway, and then we do and oh
40:11
Speaker 1: my god, right like the following directions or not, Like
40:17
Speaker 1: what's the issue? And Little Nas literally does like a
40:20
Speaker 1: pole dance, like slides down a gigantic pole from heaven
40:26
Speaker 1: down to Hell. I think it's brilliant imagery. I think
40:29
Speaker 1: it's so funny and creative and like really interesting, you know. Um.
40:35
Speaker 1: I love the inclusion of the poll and that Little
40:38
Speaker 1: Nas learned how to do some pole dancing for the video.
40:42
Speaker 1: Pole Dancing has also really become very much like a
40:45
Speaker 1: pop culture phenomenon. I mean, going from like the strip
40:49
Speaker 1: club to now pole dancing and people taking the techniques
40:52
Speaker 1: and learning them. And you can see pole dancing all
40:55
Speaker 1: of our Instagram. People have polls in their houses. It's
40:57
Speaker 1: very interesting, and so to see Little Naz incorporate that
41:00
Speaker 1: as well into the video was cool. I do believe
41:04
Speaker 1: that a lot of the outcry is so bizarre and
41:07
Speaker 1: hypocritical too, because it's like depending on who you talk to,
41:11
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about being recovering Catholic, but depending
41:14
Speaker 1: on the type of Christian you're talking to. There are
41:17
Speaker 1: plenty of people that believe truly that Catholics are held
41:20
Speaker 1: out like as a group. Right, It's true, It's so true. Um. Yeah,
41:28
Speaker 1: I also want to circle back and say, like what
41:31
Speaker 1: you were what you were saying about, like, um, pole
41:34
Speaker 1: dancing becoming the pop culture, Like yeah, definitely, I think
41:36
Speaker 1: sex worker aesthetics or sex worker culture have become like
41:40
Speaker 1: an aesthetic in pop culture, and so I want to
41:44
Speaker 1: like just recognize that because it has become more popularized, right,
41:48
Speaker 1: and we do see it more and I think I
41:50
Speaker 1: I think that Little Nas posted like about Fka Twigs
41:53
Speaker 1: because she like had a music video and she like
41:57
Speaker 1: worked with sex workers, and um, I want to say,
42:01
Speaker 1: the proceeds of the music video or something was like
42:05
Speaker 1: directly connected to like a sex work org. Um, don't
42:09
Speaker 1: quote me, but there's definitely a connection there. And so yeah,
42:13
Speaker 1: I definitely want to recognize it and recognize that, right
42:16
Speaker 1: that a lot of like the popular visuals and aesthetics
42:20
Speaker 1: that we like are rooted in like sex work. Yeah, absolutely,
42:24
Speaker 1: and that of black sex workers, right. And I think
42:29
Speaker 1: that there's been more and more conversation about that online
42:32
Speaker 1: in recent years and I remember when f K A
42:35
Speaker 1: Twig started like posting her like poll sessions and her
42:40
Speaker 1: her techniques and her moves, and she started incorporating poll
42:44
Speaker 1: into her music videos and such, and I feel like
42:47
Speaker 1: it was she was ahead of the curb, like she
42:50
Speaker 1: was before I that was before I started seeing it
42:52
Speaker 1: like all over Instagram, Like I remember distinctly seeing f
42:55
Speaker 1: K A Twigs doing it. There's also an account that
42:59
Speaker 1: I used to follow, and I think that she's still posts.
43:01
Speaker 1: But pole Assassin is this other like amazing. Well, she's
43:05
Speaker 1: a she's a pole dancer and she dances in strip clubs, right,
43:08
Speaker 1: so she's a stripper and she does I've never been
43:11
Speaker 1: to one of these clubs, but I'm dying to go
43:13
Speaker 1: one of those strip clubs where they have just the
43:15
Speaker 1: impossibly tall pole that's just like miles and miles and
43:20
Speaker 1: miles of pole, like the huge like cathedral ceilings. So
43:24
Speaker 1: this girl pole assass and this woman does crazy tricks
43:28
Speaker 1: on those super super tall poles. So you know, there
43:31
Speaker 1: were definitely women like um killing it and posting online
43:34
Speaker 1: for years, but I think it's been like in the
43:37
Speaker 1: past five that it's really become like, Okay, skinny white
43:40
Speaker 1: ladies do it now, right, you know it's the mainstream,
43:45
Speaker 1: it's mainstream. But yeah, so so there's that layer of
43:49
Speaker 1: the conversation. We also want to circle back to this
43:52
Speaker 1: idea as um, this idea of Satan being a pop
43:56
Speaker 1: culture icon, because truly, truly we have grown up on
44:01
Speaker 1: Satanic content, and we're gonna talk about our favorite Satanic
44:03
Speaker 1: content today. I mean honestly, like in the like the
44:08
Speaker 1: o g like in cartoon animation at least is like
44:13
Speaker 1: him from the Powerpuff Girls, right, Like that's iconic, um,
44:18
Speaker 1: and definitely like something I love to see, like on
44:21
Speaker 1: my own social media. I love when anything Powerpuff Girls
44:24
Speaker 1: or like Him related is invoked. I love it. Um,
44:29
Speaker 1: We've been we grew up on Satan the Devil as
44:33
Speaker 1: a pop culture icon, not only like as a biblical
44:36
Speaker 1: icon literally learning reading scripture like I've been to Catholic
44:41
Speaker 1: school K through twelve, so like I know all about
44:44
Speaker 1: the Devil. I know so much, um, And you know,
44:51
Speaker 1: and then also like seeing it as literal pop culture.
44:56
Speaker 1: There are so many like there's so many like Gothy Faves,
44:59
Speaker 1: Satan faith faith moments. What are some others? Mala, Yeah,
45:04
Speaker 1: there are so many and kind of like including under
45:07
Speaker 1: the umbrella of like satanic content. I think that most Catholics,
45:12
Speaker 1: most Christians, would agree that anything involving like witchcraft, the occult, vampires, demons,
45:20
Speaker 1: like strange monsters, these are all considered satanic devilish things, right,
45:26
Speaker 1: so I would include absolutely, like our favorite maccab families,
45:30
Speaker 1: the Adams family, the monsters. They were dabbling in in
45:34
Speaker 1: the dark arts of course, but doing it it was
45:36
Speaker 1: so cute and fun. We love them, We love the
45:39
Speaker 1: Adams family. We do yes. Also the craft a faith,
45:45
Speaker 1: a cult, a literally a cult, classic focus focus. There's
45:50
Speaker 1: a literal show called Lucifer, And so we like say
45:53
Speaker 1: this because like, okay, what kind of hypocrisy like this
45:57
Speaker 1: like faulk conservative outcry when when there so many other
46:03
Speaker 1: things to focus on, because these aren't like just regular
46:06
Speaker 1: regular people. These are like elected officials right that are
46:10
Speaker 1: tweeting a little maas like I'm sorry, can you deal
46:13
Speaker 1: with your constituents? Like and stop tweeting at this musician
46:17
Speaker 1: like yeah, could you deal with the devils amongst you
46:22
Speaker 1: in your ranks, the devils you work with like this
46:25
Speaker 1: Matt Gates guy who's been like sex trafficking miners, like
46:30
Speaker 1: there are devils out there that we can deal with,
46:33
Speaker 1: true truly true devils, Like true devils out there, there's
46:38
Speaker 1: like true evil that y'all need to deal with and
46:40
Speaker 1: y'all need to put in check, like you know, And
46:43
Speaker 1: that's why we say it's like it's false, like it's
46:46
Speaker 1: a faux it's phony, it's a faux outcry pearl clutching,
46:52
Speaker 1: like it's not real, and it's not based on anything
46:56
Speaker 1: like actual, it's not based on anything real, you know,
47:00
Speaker 1: Like it's just you see a black person, you see
47:03
Speaker 1: a black queer person living are their authentic life, creating beautiful,
47:09
Speaker 1: gorgeous art, and that's the threat, not that Satan is involved,
47:13
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. And it's funny how every so often
47:17
Speaker 1: there's a piece of art or media there's a pop
47:20
Speaker 1: culture moment that is allegedly like the be sign that
47:25
Speaker 1: humanity is over and like the final straw that's going
47:30
Speaker 1: to break civilizations back, because last year it was whop
47:33
Speaker 1: and now it's now it's called me by your name
47:37
Speaker 1: exactly exactly, and it's like, you're so dramatic. We could
47:41
Speaker 1: point to something like failed responses to the pandemic that
47:45
Speaker 1: could be the thing that destroys us. But it's not
47:49
Speaker 1: going to be an individual song or music video. Correct,
47:53
Speaker 1: Let's get it together. Like what about the children, Well,
47:57
Speaker 1: there's you know, what about the children that are literally
48:01
Speaker 1: in detention centers? Right? What about the children that are
48:05
Speaker 1: you know, getting taken from their families because they can't
48:08
Speaker 1: afford lunch, you know, because they have a balance on
48:11
Speaker 1: their their school lunch. Like are you kidding? Like there's
48:14
Speaker 1: real children to worry about, not some figurative child that
48:19
Speaker 1: is going to be influenced by a fucking music video.
48:22
Speaker 1: Godam Like, what about the children? What about them? I
48:27
Speaker 1: was raised watching Predator, the Predator movies. Okay, what about me?
48:32
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you can also like, hello, k through twelve
48:36
Speaker 1: read the Bible? Look at me now, Like it doesn't
48:39
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like sure, right, this is
48:43
Speaker 1: a product of many years Hello, yes, where we find ourselves? Yeah.
48:48
Speaker 1: I would argue that immense like exposure to Catholicism in
48:53
Speaker 1: the church actually like really lends itself to to being
48:58
Speaker 1: goffy and in tristed in the occult. Later in life
49:03
Speaker 1: I think about like how gruesome it is sometimes. I Mean,
49:07
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is some hardcore ship, y'all, like the
49:10
Speaker 1: body and blood and the crucifix and the stations of
49:13
Speaker 1: the Cross. We used to do everything as children, and
49:17
Speaker 1: it's us literally reenacting and execution. Yeah, it's so true.
49:23
Speaker 1: It's so true. I'm like, what is the Catholic to
49:26
Speaker 1: heathen pipeline? What is the Catholic to goth pipeline? Like,
49:31
Speaker 1: what is the Catholic too batty pipeline? Like I want
49:35
Speaker 1: to know the Catholic to Heathen batty pipeline. I want
49:40
Speaker 1: to know because I think that there's a connection to
49:42
Speaker 1: be made. It's true, we're collecting evidence as we speak.
49:46
Speaker 1: This is for data collection. We want to know how
49:49
Speaker 1: many of you followed the Catholic to Heathen batty pipeline.
49:53
Speaker 1: Tell us. It's funny too, because I've known of like
49:56
Speaker 1: Latinos in particular, that like when they were growing up,
49:58
Speaker 1: their parents did not allow them to read the Harry
50:01
Speaker 1: Potter books or like the Twilight books or watch any
50:04
Speaker 1: of the movies because right, you know, I was my father,
50:08
Speaker 1: but we would do it anyway, you know, of course.
50:12
Speaker 1: But what I was thinking is also like how pagan
50:16
Speaker 1: um we're going to drink the blood of Christ and
50:18
Speaker 1: eat the Body of Christ, Like I'm sorry what I
50:21
Speaker 1: think about it all the time. You know, there's a
50:25
Speaker 1: lot of paganism rooted in Catholicism and we know that
50:28
Speaker 1: right like that this is this is a fact. This
50:30
Speaker 1: isn't like me making anything up. This is factual. Um.
50:34
Speaker 1: And like I always like to say before I offend
50:37
Speaker 1: anybody that's a practicing Catholic, like I feel like if
50:40
Speaker 1: not us, people that two women that went to Catholic
50:45
Speaker 1: school were raised Catholics have devout Catholic families, Like if
50:49
Speaker 1: not us, then who can talk about Catholicism, you know,
50:54
Speaker 1: like we have the lived experience. We really do. I've
50:58
Speaker 1: completed all my sack fromants besides marriage, death and Holy orders.
51:02
Speaker 1: Like I think I know what I'm talking about and
51:07
Speaker 1: speaking of and speaking of the weird, we could go
51:10
Speaker 1: there's so much weird ship Like when I when I
51:13
Speaker 1: stopped going to Catholic school and I entered the world,
51:17
Speaker 1: I realized, like, you know, people think we're weird. People
51:21
Speaker 1: are like Catholics are like a weird little cult because
51:23
Speaker 1: we are because it is, because it is it's very cult. Like, Um,
51:29
Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of religions right that
51:31
Speaker 1: like organized religions that have cult like tendencies, right, cult
51:36
Speaker 1: like proclivities. I just want to end on this thought.
51:41
Speaker 1: Why our second graders forced to confess their sins? What
51:46
Speaker 1: are the second What have the second graders done indoctrination
51:52
Speaker 1: like her first, you know, first reconciliation. I remember thinking back,
51:57
Speaker 1: like what sins? Can I tell this? Yeah? I remember
52:02
Speaker 1: having to like like think like okay, um, what did
52:05
Speaker 1: I do that was bad? You know what I mean?
52:07
Speaker 1: Like having to like really like dig like okay, what
52:10
Speaker 1: do I confess? Like? What is the venal sin? What
52:12
Speaker 1: is a mortal sin? What will be my penance? Like? Right?
52:17
Speaker 1: You know, right? Like having to think about that in
52:19
Speaker 1: prep because anxiety. Even as a child, I was like, Okay,
52:22
Speaker 1: what am I going to tell the priest? I need
52:23
Speaker 1: to prep I need to have my little bit ready,
52:25
Speaker 1: right because what the fuck? Um to clean my soul
52:31
Speaker 1: of the blotches of sin that I've left on my
52:35
Speaker 1: eternal soul? Lord Lord say ten our fathers and four
52:41
Speaker 1: hail Mary's damn. Also, I'm going to complete my sacraments
52:50
Speaker 1: because when I got so, I technically got confirmed. I
52:56
Speaker 1: had the ceremony. When I don't I wasn't like officially confirmed.
52:59
Speaker 1: So if I went to like my my local church, um,
53:02
Speaker 1: they would be like, no, you'd probably have to redo
53:04
Speaker 1: it because I didn't go to the retreat, because when
53:08
Speaker 1: you get confirmed, there's a retreat, and I didn't go
53:11
Speaker 1: to the retreat because I went to l a pride in.
53:16
Speaker 1: I have no regrets. That's what I did instead, because
53:21
Speaker 1: while I was getting confirmed, it was what I was
53:23
Speaker 1: like questioning my sexuality, and so I was like, I'm
53:26
Speaker 1: not doing this. This isn't happening. So I did it
53:30
Speaker 1: as you shouldn't. Thank you made the right choice. No regrets.
53:34
Speaker 1: I made the right choice, No regrets. You definitely made
53:37
Speaker 1: the right choice. I'm just gonna say this, getting confirmed,
53:41
Speaker 1: I don't get any discounts anywhere. There's no fast pass
53:44
Speaker 1: to the front of the line. I think you don't
53:46
Speaker 1: get a fast pass to the Eucharis line. Noah, Noah,
53:52
Speaker 1: and not to Heaven either, apparently. So so that's that, y'all.
53:58
Speaker 1: Satan's having a pop culture moment. Shout out Satan. Satan
54:06
Speaker 1: the baddest bitch I mean. And you can see, you know,
54:13
Speaker 1: the influence in our season five visuals, you know clearly, Yeah,
54:19
Speaker 1: we had Angel devil action. You know, we play off
54:23
Speaker 1: of good Angel, Bad Angel, sort of that dynamic with
54:26
Speaker 1: our names Mala and Yosa, and we run with it.
54:29
Speaker 1: And in our season five visuals you see the USA
54:32
Speaker 1: serving angelic ethereal heavenly, I'm bringing flames of hell fire,
54:38
Speaker 1: you know, devilish and and uh so when we saw
54:42
Speaker 1: the little NAS video we felt spoken to. Yes, we
54:47
Speaker 1: felt like, you know what, we are ahead of the
54:49
Speaker 1: curve as always per huge. So yes, friends, that UM
54:58
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55:01
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55:04
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