Latest / Something Extra / Unlocking Your Purpose w/ Bennetta "Coach Bee" Raby
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- 1:44Lisa Nichols: I'm excited to have Bannetta or Coach Bee Raby on the show today. Coach Bee
- 1:48Lisa Nichols: is the creator of Transformation University, an executive coach, and a
- 1:53Lisa Nichols: facilitator.
- 1:53Lisa Nichols: Well, Beneta, Coach Bee , welcome to the
- 1:57Lisa Nichols: something extra podcast.
- 1:59Lisa Nichols: I've been looking so forward to this.
- 2:02Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 2:04Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
- 2:05Coach Bee: I when I think about, our first encounter, you know,
- 2:09Coach Bee: I I always get so excited when it just it clicks.
- 2:13Coach Bee: Right?
- 2:14Coach Bee: The camera is there.
- 2:15Coach Bee: You don't have to work for it.
- 2:17Coach Bee: It just pops out.
- 2:18Coach Bee: So I am so excited to be here with you today.
- 2:20Coach Bee: You have no idea.
- 2:22Lisa Nichols: Oh, well, I just know you are such a wise woman.
- 2:26Lisa Nichols: Oh.
- 2:26Lisa Nichols: And I just know you've got so much good experience and just,
- 2:30Lisa Nichols: words of wisdom, and I know that you're just gonna help our listeners.
- 2:33Lisa Nichols: So I'm so excited about it.
- 2:34Lisa Nichols: But I have to give a mutual shout out.
- 2:36Lisa Nichols: I have to give a shout out to our friend, Kath Marston.
- 2:39Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 2:39Lisa Nichols: That's how you and I first met.
- 2:41Lisa Nichols: That's right.
- 2:41Lisa Nichols: We started talking about what would it look to do, like, to do a
- 2:45Lisa Nichols: women in technology conference in Saint Louis.
- 2:48Lisa Nichols: And I'm really hoping we can get that rolling in twenty twenty six.
- 2:52Lisa Nichols: But, it's coming.
- 2:54Lisa Nichols: It's coming.
- 2:55Lisa Nichols: And then just most recently, Dan Roberts said, hey.
- 2:58Lisa Nichols: I want you to meet Coach Bee .
- 3:00Lisa Nichols: I'm like, I beat you soon.
- 3:01Lisa Nichols: I already know Coach Bee .
- 3:03Lisa Nichols: That's right.
- 3:05Lisa Nichols: Which is, you know, I mean, that's, that doesn't happen all the time.
- 3:09Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 3:09Lisa Nichols: You know?
- 3:10Lisa Nichols: But, anyway but I was, grateful that for both of them
- 3:14Lisa Nichols: and, for connecting us.
- 3:15Lisa Nichols: Too.
- 3:16Lisa Nichols: Because you are in Dallas.
- 3:17Lisa Nichols: You're not from Dallas, but you are in Dallas, and I'm in Saint Louis,
- 3:21Lisa Nichols: and thank God for technology.
- 3:23Coach Bee: That's right.
- 3:24Lisa Nichols: yes.
- 3:26Lisa Nichols: I wanna read just a little bit here, and then I've got lots of
- 3:29Lisa Nichols: questions for you.
- 3:30Lisa Nichols: And I just I just want our listeners to understand.
- 3:33Lisa Nichols: And, I mean, when I'm reading this, Coach Bee , I'm I'm getting tired
- 3:38Lisa Nichols: just reading this with all of the things that you have done
- 3:42Lisa Nichols: and, I mean, it's just it's incredible.
- 3:45Lisa Nichols: But here we go.
- 3:46Lisa Nichols: Banana has worked across ten plus industries, different industries.
- 3:50Lisa Nichols: That's crazy.
- 3:51Lisa Nichols: A broad spectrum of organizations, communities, governing bodies, both domestic and
- 3:55Lisa Nichols: international.
- 3:56Lisa Nichols: Her reputation of collaboratively orchestrating very abstract and
- 4:00Lisa Nichols: diverse challenges into a holistic congruent framework has
- 4:04Lisa Nichols: proven to be consistently successful and transferrable knowledge to others.
- 4:08Lisa Nichols: Her trademark workshops and national platform of the Power to Run, and I wanna
- 4:12Lisa Nichols: talk more about that, And the transformation series drives agile
- 4:17Lisa Nichols: mind shifts in areas such as strategic alignment, organizational excellence, workforce
- 4:21Lisa Nichols: transformation, and equity.
- 4:22Lisa Nichols: She imparts its wisdom to academic work and publications, speaking engagements,
- 4:26Lisa Nichols: executive coaching, consulting.
- 4:28Lisa Nichols: Your work has been recognized by entities such as the Technology Business Management
- 4:32Lisa Nichols: Council, ServiceNow, CIO Executive Council, Innovation
- 4:37Lisa Nichols: Enterprise, CRC Press.
- 4:40Lisa Nichols: My goodness.
- 4:40Lisa Nichols: BizClick Media, Business Chief magazine to just reference
- 4:45Lisa Nichols: a few.
- 4:46Coach Bee: Thank you.
- 4:46Lisa Nichols: I mean, it's really crazy.
- 4:48Lisa Nichols: You have held roles like the CTO.
- 4:50Lisa Nichols: You've been the chief transformation officer, the chief of staff, chief information officer.
- 4:54Lisa Nichols: I mean, the list goes on and on, and you've worked with ton of
- 4:57Lisa Nichols: universities.
- 4:58Lisa Nichols: I mean, Coach Bee , seriously, I just get tired of reading all that.
- 5:02Lisa Nichols: It's incredible what god has allowed you to do.
- 5:06Lisa Nichols: I mean, truly.
- 5:07Coach Bee: Oh, yes.
- 5:07Lisa Nichols: Truly.
- 5:09Lisa Nichols: But let's let's start here and just because I'd love I knew that you
- 5:13Lisa Nichols: grew up in New Orleans, and you later became a proud
- 5:17Lisa Nichols: alum of University of New Orleans.
- 5:19Coach Bee: Yes.
- 5:19Lisa Nichols: How did your upbringing shape the leader that you are today?
- 5:23Coach Bee: Oh, wow.
- 5:23Coach Bee: That is a big a big, comment there.
- 5:26Coach Bee: So I I would tell you that,
- 5:30Coach Bee: I was a girl, had a real strong girl dad, and
- 5:34Coach Bee: he raised some really, really fearless women, which
- 5:38Coach Bee: was a beautiful thing.
- 5:40Coach Bee: I also had a very nurturing mom, meaning that,
- 5:44Coach Bee: you know, even though her upbringing was not perfect,
- 5:49Coach Bee: she had a desire to build a home of comfort
- 5:53Coach Bee: and love.
- 5:54Coach Bee: And, you know, just full transparency, I actually lost my
- 5:58Coach Bee: mom at the end of September to a long battle of dementia,
- 6:02Coach Bee: frontal temporal dementia.
- 6:04Coach Bee: But,
- 6:06Coach Bee: I would say that those two individuals,
- 6:11Coach Bee: really made me who I am today.
- 6:14Coach Bee: Their ability to let me even journey with them through their
- 6:18Coach Bee: deliverance in their lives, outside of the way they
- 6:22Coach Bee: loved people.
- 6:23Coach Bee: My dad was a educator for a long time and and coach.
- 6:27Coach Bee: And, you know, my mom, worked with special needs and then later went
- 6:31Coach Bee: into being an entrepreneur.
- 6:32Coach Bee: They both ended up being entrepreneurs later in their lives.
- 6:36Coach Bee: And just watching them how they did life and how our door always stayed
- 6:40Coach Bee: open, there was always somebody at our table Mhmm.
- 6:44Coach Bee: For dinner.
- 6:45Coach Bee: You know?
- 6:46Lisa Nichols: I love
- 6:46Coach Bee: that.
- 6:47Coach Bee: So it I don't wanna make it sound Pollyannaish because everything
- 6:51Coach Bee: in life has its ups and downs and ends and Right.
- 6:54Coach Bee: But as individuals, they tried really hard to
- 6:58Coach Bee: inspire in our family the sense of service and the
- 7:02Coach Bee: sense of be paying attention to other people and their needs.
- 7:06Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 7:07Lisa Nichols: Oh, I love that.
- 7:08Lisa Nichols: Well and I know too that your grandmother had a big influence
- 7:12Lisa Nichols: on you.
- 7:13Lisa Nichols: Oh, cute.
- 7:14Lisa Nichols: Your grandmother.
- 7:14Lisa Nichols: So we're talking generations.
- 7:16Lisa Nichols: Generation.
- 7:17Coach Bee: Yes.
- 7:18Lisa Nichols: This family of love and family of acceptance and openness
- 7:22Lisa Nichols: and right?
- 7:24Lisa Nichols: So tell me about that because I read that you I I think I
- 7:28Lisa Nichols: read an article that said you have a passion for restoring Yes.
- 7:32Lisa Nichols: And repurposing furniture.
- 7:34Lisa Nichols: And it's so cool because you've got so many of your grandmother's pieces
- 7:38Lisa Nichols: in your home.
- 7:39Lisa Nichols: Oh my god.
- 7:40Lisa Nichols: Rock home.
- 7:41Coach Bee: Every everywhere.
- 7:43Coach Bee: So she starting very young, I shared with her the
- 7:47Coach Bee: fascination around.
- 7:48Coach Bee: She was so good, has such a good eye at picking pieces
- 7:53Coach Bee: that were broken, and people would literally like, I have an armoire
- 7:57Coach Bee: in my dining room that when she found it, it was in a pile.
- 8:02Coach Bee: It was literally decomposed in in a pile of wood.
- 8:06Coach Bee: And she found, this gentleman in Mississippi and,
- 8:10Coach Bee: out in the rural parts of Mississippi, and he would rebuild this
- 8:14Coach Bee: furniture for her and bring it back to new.
- 8:16Coach Bee: Little did I know that watching her do that and developing
- 8:21Coach Bee: a love for,
- 8:23Coach Bee: starting to restore.
- 8:24Coach Bee: So I think I restored my first piece of furniture at thirteen, And it
- 8:28Coach Bee: was an actual old couch from the Salvation Army that I
- 8:32Coach Bee: broke down and rebuilt into a pure white couch
- 8:36Coach Bee: that we kept in our home, and literally rebuilt that
- 8:40Coach Bee: couch in a matter of three days, and had never done it before.
- 8:44Coach Bee: And that was kinda
- 8:44Lisa Nichols: But you were thirteen years old?
- 8:46Coach Bee: Thirteen.
- 8:47Coach Bee: It was in my mom's dining room.
- 8:49Coach Bee: And Wow.
- 8:50Coach Bee: Said, you are never gonna finish that sofa.
- 8:53Coach Bee: And I said, I'm not gonna sleep till I finish that sofa.
- 8:56Coach Bee: But that was God's way at that point, I think, looking back on it
- 8:59Coach Bee: now, of carrying on legacy from my grandmother because
- 9:03Coach Bee: she told me she said, if you continue to care for things like this,
- 9:08Coach Bee: every piece you see in this house can be yours.
- 9:10Coach Bee: I will leave it all to you.
- 9:12Coach Bee: Nobody else wanted it because they wanted the new stuff.
- 9:15Coach Bee: And I said Yeah.
- 9:16Coach Bee: If you pass it on to me, I will take care of it.
- 9:18Coach Bee: The desk I sit at right now was the first dining room table she
- 9:22Coach Bee: and my grandfather bought.
- 9:24Coach Bee: I resported and made it the desk that I work from.
- 9:27Coach Bee: So while she only reached, you know, high school education,
- 9:32Coach Bee: she was a housekeeper,
- 9:35Coach Bee: for living.
- 9:37Coach Bee: She was a woman of many principles that I just hold
- 9:41Coach Bee: her in such great reverence because she taught me about everything about
- 9:45Coach Bee: my faith and how to care for people through the way I restored
- 9:49Coach Bee: things out to the way that I cook for people.
- 9:52Coach Bee: So cooking is a love language for me.
- 9:54Coach Bee: So love my grandmother, Elizabeth.
- 9:56Coach Bee: Actually, my oldest daughter has carries her name.
- 10:00Lisa Nichols: Oh, well, I love the name.
- 10:02Lisa Nichols: My middle daughter's name is Elizabeth, and I love the meaning
- 10:06Lisa Nichols: of Elizabeth.
- 10:08Lisa Nichols: You know the meaning of it.
- 10:09Lisa Nichols: I love that name.
- 10:11Coach Bee: Yes.
- 10:11Lisa Nichols: That is so I mean, I know.
- 10:13Lisa Nichols: And I think you refurnished her buffet, which actually became your
- 10:17Lisa Nichols: credenza.
- 10:18Lisa Nichols: I mean, Yeah.
- 10:19Lisa Nichols: I just think that it's so awesome, Coach Bee , because when you sit at that
- 10:23Lisa Nichols: when you sit at that desk every day Yep.
- 10:26Lisa Nichols: You've got a piece of her with you, and she's carrying on that legacy.
- 10:30Lisa Nichols: I just think it's really beautiful.
- 10:32Coach Bee: Thank you so much.
- 10:33Coach Bee: Thank you for even knowing that.
- 10:35Coach Bee: I love that.
- 10:38Lisa Nichols: Well and and you know what?
- 10:40Lisa Nichols: And I just thought about something else.
- 10:42Lisa Nichols: You are a transformation expert.
- 10:44Lisa Nichols: That's what you are.
- 10:46Lisa Nichols: And that started you're transforming That's it.
- 10:50Lisa Nichols: This furniture.
- 10:51Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 10:52Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
- 10:53Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
- 10:54Lisa Nichols: Common thread.
- 10:54Coach Bee: Absolutely.
- 10:55Coach Bee: That is so cool.
- 10:56Coach Bee: Yes.
- 10:57Lisa Nichols: That is so cool.
- 10:58Lisa Nichols: Well, I know that you and Rob have built a
- 11:02Lisa Nichols: house, a home that's grounded in faith, and I love
- 11:06Lisa Nichols: it.
- 11:07Lisa Nichols: Tell me about your family, your immediate family, Rob,
- 11:11Lisa Nichols: your kids.
- 11:12Lisa Nichols: How has that shaped you as a leader?
- 11:15Lisa Nichols: Being a mother and being a wife, and,
- 11:18Lisa Nichols: how have they supported you and shaped you?
- 11:20Coach Bee: Oh my gosh.
- 11:22Coach Bee: Just because I'm fresh off of that renewal of
- 11:26Coach Bee: time with Rob and then celebrating our twenty fifth anniversary
- 11:30Coach Bee: today.
- 11:30Coach Bee: Rob and I started out as best friends in college.
- 11:34Coach Bee: We built this relationship from a truly solid relationship or
- 11:38Coach Bee: friendship.
- 11:39Coach Bee: And, I tell people all the time, I don't just love him, but I
- 11:43Coach Bee: like him.
- 11:45Coach Bee: Yes.
- 11:45Coach Bee: I adore him.
- 11:46Lisa Nichols: That's kind of important.
- 11:48Coach Bee: It is very important.
- 11:49Coach Bee: You cannot skip that part.
- 11:51Coach Bee: It's important foundational work.
- 11:54Coach Bee: And he is my true best friend.
- 11:55Coach Bee: I know some people say that.
- 11:57Coach Bee: I I really tell you that, he knows me better than anybody,
- 12:01Coach Bee: and I wouldn't be where I am today had not he made
- 12:05Coach Bee: the full commitment to let me go out on the edge of risk
- 12:10Coach Bee: and do what I'm doing.
- 12:11Coach Bee: And I know you totally understand this because I know you come from the
- 12:14Coach Bee: same place.
- 12:16Coach Bee: So, you know, the even today, I was telling him that
- 12:21Coach Bee: I love the fact that he loves me the way I don't even know
- 12:25Coach Bee: I need to be loved.
- 12:26Coach Bee: And so that just brings another quality to
- 12:31Coach Bee: not only our relationship, but it's a model for our girls.
- 12:34Coach Bee: Not that they need to have exactly what Rob and I have because I
- 12:37Coach Bee: want them to journey with their people when it's time.
- 12:41Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
- 12:41Coach Bee: The way they see they need to.
- 12:43Coach Bee: But that faith of believing
- 12:47Coach Bee: that God knows how to weave us together and that it is
- 12:51Coach Bee: a journey with tons of seasons, and we have to sign up for
- 12:55Coach Bee: all the seasons.
- 12:57Coach Bee: You know, we both just went through like I said earlier, I lost my
- 13:00Coach Bee: mom in September, but last November, we lost his mom.
- 13:04Coach Bee: And so we have found a whole another level
- 13:08Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 13:08Coach Bee: Of trusting each other and God through to the end of the
- 13:12Coach Bee: light at the end of the tunnel of now being motherless,
- 13:17Coach Bee: so to speak, and learning how to fill that space with
- 13:22Coach Bee: other things now that they're gone to heaven and can't feel.
- 13:25Coach Bee: So I just tell people all the time, don't look for perfect.
- 13:30Coach Bee: Look for the person that you feel you can say yes to the journey.
- 13:35Coach Bee: And then when it gets dull, you know how to respark it.
- 13:39Coach Bee: When it's full, that you know how to embrace it and be grateful for
- 13:42Coach Bee: it, but it's it's seasons.
- 13:44Coach Bee: It's not perfect.
- 13:46Lisa Nichols: I'm so glad that you've said that.
- 13:47Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 13:48Lisa Nichols: I'm so glad that you said that, Coach Bee , because there is no perfect relationship.
- 13:52Lisa Nichols: No.
- 13:54Lisa Nichols: In fact, you know, I've told our children and yeah.
- 13:57Lisa Nichols: I said if people tell you that they never have issues or they don't
- 14:00Lisa Nichols: even have disagreements, I'm like, either they're lying to you or they're
- 14:04Lisa Nichols: just they're a very surface relationship and they're pushing those things
- 14:08Lisa Nichols: under the rug.
- 14:09Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 14:10Lisa Nichols: But, I completely concur with you because I know
- 14:15Lisa Nichols: that Greg having the two of us I mean, having him in
- 14:19Lisa Nichols: my life, I am the better human being.
- 14:22Lisa Nichols: Iron sharpens iron.
- 14:23Coach Bee: That's right.
- 14:24Lisa Nichols: And, and and I like him too.
- 14:29Lisa Nichols: I would choose just to to have him as a best friend even if
- 14:33Lisa Nichols: he wasn't my husband.
- 14:34Lisa Nichols: So that that's really beautiful.
- 14:36Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 14:37Lisa Nichols: Well, I know that, you know, that you've held degrees.
- 14:40Lisa Nichols: I mean, my goodness.
- 14:41Lisa Nichols: You got lots and lots and lots of degrees.
- 14:43Coach Bee: I love that.
- 14:44Lisa Nichols: And you continue to get degrees because you're now working on your doctorate, which
- 14:48Lisa Nichols: is crazy.
- 14:50Lisa Nichols: But, you know, you've got lots of different ones.
- 14:52Lisa Nichols: But what what has driven that lifelong
- 14:56Lisa Nichols: commitment to learning?
- 14:57Lisa Nichols: And, I mean, I'm sure your dad being an educator, I'm sure education was
- 15:01Lisa Nichols: important.
- 15:02Lisa Nichols: You guys were brought up to realize how important education is.
- 15:05Coach Bee: Yeah.
- 15:06Coach Bee: It he did.
- 15:07Coach Bee: I will say, though he had a very interesting to say
- 15:11Coach Bee: that he was such a brilliant man, he
- 15:16Coach Bee: never forced us down a particular education
- 15:20Coach Bee: path.
- 15:21Coach Bee: His words to us was always and this is the words I say to
- 15:24Coach Bee: Hannah and Grace, my two daughters, is about
- 15:29Coach Bee: seeking life for curiosity.
- 15:32Coach Bee: And if curiosity leads you to a four year
- 15:36Coach Bee: university, if it leads you to a technical career, if it leads you
- 15:41Coach Bee: to vo tech, if it leads you to entrepreneurship, just make sure that
- 15:45Coach Bee: you are pursuing it with everything that you have.
- 15:48Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 15:49Coach Bee: Never resting on your laurels that because you've achieved some
- 15:53Coach Bee: part of it, that you know everything there is to know.
- 15:56Coach Bee: Because our brains you know, being a brain coach, I learned very quickly
- 16:01Coach Bee: that and then watching two parents suffer from cognitive
- 16:05Coach Bee: decline that when you become
- 16:09Coach Bee: comfortable that you know everything you need to know, you're actually
- 16:14Coach Bee: closing off the possibility of growing another
- 16:18Coach Bee: part of your mind,
- 16:20Coach Bee: opening up neuropathways that have a lot of treasure in it
- 16:25Coach Bee: that I believe divinely is for us to go discover.
- 16:29Coach Bee: It's just like we get on a plane to go take a vacation.
- 16:32Coach Bee: We should be taking a vacation with our learning.
- 16:35Coach Bee: And, you know, even today sitting with you, I know
- 16:39Coach Bee: that I'm gonna have the opportunity
- 16:42Coach Bee: to hear myself as you provoke me in
- 16:46Coach Bee: the questions you're asking,
- 16:48Coach Bee: to want to discover more about who I am.
- 16:51Coach Bee: So probably in my fifties right now, I am more
- 16:57Coach Bee: in tune with needing to drive forward learning in
- 17:01Coach Bee: myself so that I can help people differently.
- 17:04Coach Bee: I can discover people differently.
- 17:06Coach Bee: I can see
- 17:06Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 17:08Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 17:09Lisa Nichols: I, you know, I I love what you just said.
- 17:11Lisa Nichols: That completely one hundred percent resonates with me because I was just talking
- 17:15Lisa Nichols: to somebody last week about some possibility of higher
- 17:19Lisa Nichols: education.
- 17:20Lisa Nichols: And I said it's not for the letters behind your
- 17:24Lisa Nichols: name.
- 17:24Lisa Nichols: It truly isn't.
- 17:25Lisa Nichols: It's so that I could be better equipped to help other people.
- 17:30Coach Bee: That's it.
- 17:30Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 17:31Lisa Nichols: That's That's that's the that's the impetus for it.
- 17:34Lisa Nichols: So
- 17:35Coach Bee: Absolutely.
- 17:35Coach Bee: And I didn't have a good I'm gonna be honest with you, Lisa.
- 17:40Coach Bee: When I first decided that I wanted to do
- 17:44Coach Bee: additional learning, I'm a put it that way, it was not rooted
- 17:48Coach Bee: in the best position about learning.
- 17:51Coach Bee: It was rooted in acceptance
- 17:54Coach Bee: and wanting
- 17:55Coach Bee: to have something else to conquer.
- 17:57Coach Bee: You can get addicted Yes.
- 18:00Coach Bee: You can.
- 18:00Coach Bee: To that kind of thing.
- 18:01Coach Bee: And so,
- 18:04Coach Bee: I remember going when I was going through some spiritual counseling, Literally,
- 18:08Coach Bee: that was challenged.
- 18:09Coach Bee: And she said, I think, honestly, you need to pull back from
- 18:13Coach Bee: the doctoral program, and you need to pursue something else for the
- 18:17Coach Bee: time being while you are transforming yourself.
- 18:20Coach Bee: And I did that.
- 18:21Lisa Nichols: You did?
- 18:22Coach Bee: I did.
- 18:23Coach Bee: And so that is when I went into the brain coaching and got that
- 18:26Coach Bee: certification because the question was, what I was doing, was it gonna
- 18:30Coach Bee: help the people that I was called to help my purpose, or was it
- 18:34Coach Bee: going to feed my ego?
- 18:35Coach Bee: And, honestly, at the time, it was feeding my ego.
- 18:37Lisa Nichols: Feeding your ego.
- 18:39Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 18:39Lisa Nichols: I mean, I that's a good point too.
- 18:41Lisa Nichols: You know, I think we always need to be asking ourselves, what is the
- 18:45Lisa Nichols: motive?
- 18:45Lisa Nichols: What is the motive to do this?
- 18:48Lisa Nichols: Is it really to look good to others?
- 18:50Lisa Nichols: Is it for acceptance,
- 18:52Lisa Nichols: credibility?
- 18:53Lisa Nichols: Whatever the case may be.
- 18:54Lisa Nichols: So, yeah, having those meetings with yourself, I think, are really important.
- 18:59Lisa Nichols: It wasn't popular.
- 19:00Coach Bee: It wasn't popular.
- 19:02Coach Bee: A lot of people are like, what are you doing?
- 19:04Coach Bee: Why would you do that?
- 19:05Coach Bee: But I had to make a conscious decision that, you know, I'm kinda a
- 19:08Coach Bee: little too old to be doing chasing ghosts.
- 19:11Coach Bee: So I need to make sure that I'm intentional about the things that I
- 19:14Coach Bee: do and, you know, is it serving the kingdom?
- 19:18Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 19:19Lisa Nichols: Oh, so good.
- 19:20Lisa Nichols: So good.
- 19:21Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you this because we we've already kinda touched on it
- 19:24Lisa Nichols: a little bit.
- 19:25Lisa Nichols: You are a transformation expert.
- 19:28Lisa Nichols: Transformation of the brain.
- 19:30Lisa Nichols: Transformation of IT.
- 19:32Lisa Nichols: Many, many things.
- 19:33Lisa Nichols: Transformation of furniture.
- 19:35Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 19:35Lisa Nichols: When did you when in your career did you realize that it was more
- 19:39Lisa Nichols: about transformation for you than just the technology
- 19:44Lisa Nichols: and that transformation was gonna be your line?
- 19:47Coach Bee: Wow.
- 19:47Coach Bee: That's a good question.
- 19:51Coach Bee: I would say it was probably,
- 19:54Coach Bee: at this point, over twelve years ago, if not a little
- 19:58Coach Bee: longer.
- 19:58Coach Bee: I was in an organization.
- 20:01Coach Bee: I won't say names to protect the innocent.
- 20:03Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 20:05Coach Bee: But I remember,
- 20:08Coach Bee: being completely fulfilled in the work I was doing, but I have this provocation,
- 20:13Coach Bee: almost like a a tomb moment where,
- 20:18Coach Bee: outwardly, everybody would probably have guessed that I was doing what
- 20:22Coach Bee: I love to do.
- 20:23Coach Bee: I've been in technology at that time for I'll call getting close to thirty
- 20:27Coach Bee: years.
- 20:27Coach Bee: I mean, for most of my career, I had a a adult dual degree
- 20:31Coach Bee: in computer science.
- 20:32Coach Bee: And Yes.
- 20:33Coach Bee: And so I've always had my tentacles in it.
- 20:36Coach Bee: But from the outside, it looked like I was working for the perfect organization
- 20:40Coach Bee: doing the perfect work.
- 20:42Coach Bee: Inside,
- 20:43Coach Bee: I was suffering silently.
- 20:45Coach Bee: And what I mean by that was I just was not fulfilled.
- 20:49Coach Bee: I mean, I had the paycheck.
- 20:51Coach Bee: I had the title.
- 20:53Coach Bee: You know, was wearing the the the Armani suit with the stiletto
- 20:57Coach Bee: heels and walking in the shower.
- 20:59Coach Bee: Right?
- 21:00Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 21:00Coach Bee: But I was just not happy.
- 21:03Coach Bee: And when I look back at pictures even during that time, I was I
- 21:07Coach Bee: could see it.
- 21:08Coach Bee: I can see that, but that that be at the time.
- 21:11Coach Bee: And I remember
- 21:14Coach Bee: just,
- 21:15Coach Bee: really getting in a place of trying to understand
- 21:19Coach Bee: what where that suffering was coming from because everything else seemed to be
- 21:24Coach Bee: in place.
- 21:25Coach Bee: And I remember,
- 21:27Coach Bee: one day, I felt a provocation to write down
- 21:32Coach Bee: if you could be somewhere else helping someone else, who would they
- 21:36Coach Bee: be?
- 21:36Coach Bee: What would they look like?
- 21:39Coach Bee: What would they sound like?
- 21:41Coach Bee: Right.
- 21:41Coach Bee: Exactly.
- 21:42Coach Bee: So I sat down and wrote a couple of simple sentences.
- 21:45Coach Bee: They were not elaborate.
- 21:47Coach Bee: And it said something like to help other
- 21:51Coach Bee: people in positions of influence, not necessarily power,
- 21:55Coach Bee: but influence.
- 21:57Coach Bee: And that was before influence was a buzzword
- 22:01Coach Bee: to uncover their greater purpose.
- 22:05Coach Bee: Wrote that down,
- 22:07Coach Bee: said, oh, this sounds good.
- 22:09Coach Bee: This looks good.
- 22:10Coach Bee: And I tucked it away in my journal, put it on my prayer prayer
- 22:13Coach Bee: space.
- 22:15Coach Bee: And then, couple of months after that, I heard the little
- 22:19Coach Bee: voice, you know, little voice that was here, and it said
- 22:23Coach Bee: to go further.
- 22:26Coach Bee: And so I talked about who those people were, individuals
- 22:30Coach Bee: that had our servant heart but were overlooked,
- 22:35Coach Bee: committees, boards, c level executives
- 22:39Coach Bee: that had the true desire but were struggling to maintain the desire.
- 22:43Coach Bee: And so it started to get a little clear of who.
- 22:46Coach Bee: Fast forwarding, one day I heard the word transformation.
- 22:51Coach Bee: Just heard it.
- 22:53Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 22:53Coach Bee: And I went and looked it up, and I promise you it was, like,
- 22:57Coach Bee: one percent of people were even moving in that space.
- 22:59Coach Bee: Mackenzie had just started talking about it.
- 23:03Coach Bee: There were about
- 23:05Coach Bee: I'd say if you went out on LinkedIn, you probably found fifteen individuals
- 23:10Coach Bee: that was doing transformational work.
- 23:12Coach Bee: And I started circulating it in my circle of of influence, and people
- 23:16Coach Bee: were kind of making fun of it saying, what the heck does that mean
- 23:19Coach Bee: to me?
- 23:20Coach Bee: Like, what what do you
- 23:21Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 23:21Coach Bee: So I I will say to you, Lisa, that it started out as it
- 23:25Coach Bee: usually starts out in purpose.
- 23:28Coach Bee: And what you're giving in your heart, your unique
- 23:32Coach Bee: path usually sounds ridiculous.
- 23:36Coach Bee: You know what I'm talking about?
- 23:37Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 23:38Lisa Nichols: I do.
- 23:39Lisa Nichols: And Yes.
- 23:40Coach Bee: It sounded ridiculous for a while, and I kept saying to lead
- 23:44Coach Bee: my leaders and saying to people, this is what I think I'm supposed to
- 23:48Coach Bee: do and what I wanna do.
- 23:50Coach Bee: And everybody was like, that's that's cute, but we're not buying it.
- 23:54Coach Bee: So transformation for me was that little voice
- 23:59Coach Bee: that spoke to me of this is what you're going to do.
- 24:02Coach Bee: And I remember even having a prophetic dream
- 24:06Coach Bee: if I can go there.
- 24:07Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 24:08Lisa Nichols: Please do.
- 24:08Coach Bee: And the dream showed me that I was in this
- 24:12Coach Bee: war torn country,
- 24:15Coach Bee: of Liberia.
- 24:18Coach Bee: And it showed me that I was in almost like this think of the
- 24:22Coach Bee: space needle that you would see in Seattle or the one you would see
- 24:25Coach Bee: in Toronto.
- 24:26Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 24:26Coach Bee: The and I'm in the top of this, and I was looking out across
- 24:31Coach Bee: this I mean, as far as you could see, it was just a sea
- 24:34Coach Bee: of people, and they were coming towards this space needle.
- 24:39Coach Bee: And I heard this big voice say, they are coming
- 24:43Coach Bee: for your help.
- 24:45Coach Bee: This is the this is the transformation needle.
- 24:50Coach Bee: Wow.
- 24:50Coach Bee: And I woke up.
- 24:52Coach Bee: I remember that dream.
- 24:54Coach Bee: That dream was ten years ago.
- 24:57Coach Bee: Ten years ago.
- 24:58Coach Bee: And then when I came down from the needle and went out on the
- 25:01Coach Bee: ground with the people,
- 25:04Coach Bee: I saw areas similar to what our world looks like
- 25:08Coach Bee: now, which is unsettledness and feet.
- 25:11Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 25:12Coach Bee: And people trying to hold on to purpose and
- 25:15Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 25:15Coach Bee: Hold on to why are we here, why are we going through this, and
- 25:19Coach Bee: the lack of trust.
- 25:20Coach Bee: And so I went from the top of the needle to the ground of
- 25:25Coach Bee: uncertainty.
- 25:26Coach Bee: And I remember waking up just like, what
- 25:31Coach Bee: what is this?
- 25:32Coach Bee: I am living that out now.
- 25:36Lisa Nichols: That's incredible.
- 25:37Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 25:38Lisa Nichols: Do you think, Coach Bee , during that time, do you think, like, when
- 25:42Lisa Nichols: you were doing you know, you were in this organization, everything looked great from
- 25:45Lisa Nichols: the outside.
- 25:46Lisa Nichols: Do you think that you had disconnected from your purpose, your
- 25:50Lisa Nichols: true purpose in that time, and that's why you were a little
- 25:54Lisa Nichols: empty inside?
- 25:56Coach Bee: I do.
- 25:58Coach Bee: I do.
- 25:59Coach Bee: It's so funny because last week, to answer that question,
- 26:03Coach Bee: when I was sitting in my reflective time in beautiful
- 26:07Coach Bee: Aruba Mhmm.
- 26:09Coach Bee: And just sitting there quietly,
- 26:13Coach Bee: I just started thinking about, you know, for instance, in,
- 26:17Coach Bee: Luke when it describes
- 26:23Coach Bee: the multiple points of suffering
- 26:26Coach Bee: that that character that the the man that
- 26:30Coach Bee: was displayed there, that sometimes when we think about suffering,
- 26:35Coach Bee: we think about it as some,
- 26:39Coach Bee: transcendent thing that happens to people when they're born
- 26:43Coach Bee: in, you know, misfortune or they're born
- 26:47Coach Bee: in unfavorable situations.
- 26:49Coach Bee: But the fact of the matter is all of us are walking with
- 26:53Coach Bee: multiple points of suffering.
- 26:55Lisa Nichols: That's right.
- 26:56Coach Bee: And the biggest suffering that I see every day of what I do
- 27:01Coach Bee: is the disconnection from purpose.
- 27:03Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 27:04Coach Bee: The fragmentation that happens when people lose
- 27:08Coach Bee: the the the path.
- 27:10Coach Bee: You don't always have to know all of the what, but you have
- 27:14Coach Bee: to stay on the path of discovering.
- 27:16Coach Bee: Right?
- 27:17Coach Bee: And me, I had so many years of people seeing
- 27:21Coach Bee: all of these gifts that I had to offer, and they were kind
- 27:25Coach Bee: of like Christmas time.
- 27:26Coach Bee: They were going doing their Black Friday shopping would be.
- 27:29Coach Bee: They were picking out what they wanted, and they were illuminating what they wanted.
- 27:34Coach Bee: And I was letting that happen.
- 27:37Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 27:37Coach Bee: And it was I was successful.
- 27:40Coach Bee: Right?
- 27:41Coach Bee: Right.
- 27:41Coach Bee: But what wasn't happening is I didn't I wasn't taking
- 27:46Coach Bee: the place to be clear, to be calm, to be present,
- 27:50Coach Bee: to ask myself, how do I feel about what's
- 27:54Coach Bee: unfolding?
- 27:55Coach Bee: And so even in that vision that I had,
- 28:00Coach Bee: I was unsettled even in the vision because I'm like, how do I get
- 28:04Coach Bee: from where I am to to learning all of that?
- 28:07Coach Bee: Right?
- 28:08Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 28:08Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 28:09Coach Bee: And I know I'm speaking to, you know, a fellow sister that
- 28:13Coach Bee: totally understands
- 28:15Coach Bee: that you have to sign up every day
- 28:20Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 28:20Lisa Nichols: You do.
- 28:20Coach Bee: Open to Right.
- 28:22Coach Bee: Unraveled and unpack, but you still have to maintain
- 28:27Coach Bee: the boundaries of not allowing your purpose to be,
- 28:33Coach Bee: plagiarized, to be taken for granted, for,
- 28:38Coach Bee: people to pick out of it what is suits them.
- 28:41Coach Bee: Because what you end up with is emptiness.
- 28:43Coach Bee: You end up in that tomb.
- 28:45Coach Bee: You end up with the legions,
- 28:48Coach Bee: like the character in Luke, right, of fragmentation.
- 28:53Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 28:55Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 28:56Lisa Nichols: That wow.
- 28:57Lisa Nichols: I love I honestly, I love that metaphor.
- 29:00Lisa Nichols: I love that prophetic dream that you had because I just think and
- 29:04Lisa Nichols: you coming down into this level of uncertainty because I see the same thing.
- 29:08Lisa Nichols: I see people.
- 29:09Lisa Nichols: And I've often thought to myself, Benetta, I mean, I know
- 29:14Lisa Nichols: you and I we know I know what my purpose is.
- 29:17Lisa Nichols: And my the way that we live that out
- 29:20Coach Bee: Yeah.
- 29:20Lisa Nichols: May look different different, but there is an overarching purpose that we're all
- 29:25Lisa Nichols: created for.
- 29:26Lisa Nichols: And I know what that is.
- 29:28Lisa Nichols: But I've often thought if I didn't know what that was,
- 29:32Lisa Nichols: I I think I would be I think I would be really a depressed
- 29:35Lisa Nichols: person.
- 29:36Lisa Nichols: Oh, yeah.
- 29:36Lisa Nichols: Because because then you're like, what is this all about?
- 29:41Lisa Nichols: I just get up every day.
- 29:42Lisa Nichols: I get ready, I go to work, I come home, I cook there.
- 29:45Lisa Nichols: I mean, it's just like, what is the meaning of all of this, right?
- 29:49Lisa Nichols: If you don't really understand that higher purpose
- 29:53Lisa Nichols: and what what it really is that you were created for Yes.
- 29:58Lisa Nichols: That would be really it'd be hard to navigate life, I feel like.
- 30:01Coach Bee: It's it's a emptiness.
- 30:02Coach Bee: And, you know, when your identity, I would say when your identity
- 30:06Coach Bee: is fragmented, your authority weakens.
- 30:09Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 30:10Coach Bee: And what I was going through during that time was outwardly,
- 30:14Coach Bee: again,
- 30:16Coach Bee: people were happy with what they were getting from me.
- 30:21Coach Bee: But for me, I had to go through a period of restoration.
- 30:25Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 30:26Coach Bee: Part of that period of restoration was
- 30:32Coach Bee: separating
- 30:33Coach Bee: from things that I knew were draining me emotionally.
- 30:37Coach Bee: I call them emotional and spiritual vampires.
- 30:40Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 30:41Lisa Nichols: You know You've done the same thing.
- 30:42Coach Bee: I had to be open to my circles changing, and they and the
- 30:46Coach Bee: and new people showing up for the new season that I was moving into.
- 30:50Coach Bee: I had to be open to you know, because I was always always
- 30:55Coach Bee: have been a person that people attracted to for direction and for
- 30:59Coach Bee: advice, and I had to be open to being humble
- 31:03Coach Bee: to receiving my guides, my wisdom.
- 31:07Coach Bee: Right?
- 31:07Coach Bee: Yes.
- 31:07Coach Bee: I had to ask for that.
- 31:10Coach Bee: I had to look at motherhood differently,
- 31:14Coach Bee: spouse spousal relationship differently.
- 31:17Coach Bee: I had to look at what kind of leader I wanted to be.
- 31:20Coach Bee: So the next place that I went,
- 31:24Coach Bee: I literally intentionally
- 31:27Coach Bee: took a lot of what I wanted and put it away for a minute
- 31:31Coach Bee: and started to figure out what is my purpose for having the people that
- 31:35Coach Bee: now report to me and that I'm responsible for.
- 31:38Coach Bee: Like, what is it I'm supposed to do with these people?
- 31:41Coach Bee: And I'm not saying that I was selfish
- 31:45Coach Bee: all the time, but it was so much about performance that I
- 31:49Coach Bee: kinda lost the essence of my purpose of why
- 31:54Coach Bee: certain people were being put in my midst.
- 31:56Lisa Nichols: Put in.
- 31:57Coach Bee: Right.
- 31:57Coach Bee: Yeah.
- 31:57Coach Bee: Absolutely.
- 31:58Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 31:58Coach Bee: And then I had to start envisioning again, you know, this business
- 32:03Coach Bee: that now is a practice and not being afraid to dream
- 32:08Coach Bee: while I was on somebody else's dime.
- 32:10Coach Bee: So I had to give myself permission to start birthing that
- 32:14Coach Bee: baby
- 32:16Coach Bee: and that vision while I was working at something else, and it just was
- 32:20Coach Bee: interesting how everything started to converge.
- 32:23Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 32:24Lisa Nichols: That's so beautiful.
- 32:26Lisa Nichols: Well, my goodness.
- 32:27Lisa Nichols: I've got so many questions here.
- 32:30Lisa Nichols: You know, let's let's just I I mean, I want to make sure that
- 32:33Lisa Nichols: we get into what you're called to do today.
- 32:36Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 32:37Lisa Nichols: You know, go go follow Coach Bee .
- 32:40Lisa Nichols: I mean, literally, she she has, ran huge transformation
- 32:44Lisa Nichols: projects for organizations, big and small.
- 32:47Lisa Nichols: And like I said, ten plus industries.
- 32:51Lisa Nichols: There's a lot that she's done in that space.
- 32:53Lisa Nichols: But you know what?
- 32:54Lisa Nichols: You founded Renation.
- 32:56Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 32:57Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 32:59Lisa Nichols: Tell me and and Power to Run is trademarked.
- 33:02Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 33:02Lisa Nichols: Tell me more about that.
- 33:03Lisa Nichols: And it's the Power to Run workshop, I think, is what it is.
- 33:07Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 33:07Coach Bee: So one of the, again, divine intervention, there was a saying
- 33:12Coach Bee: that both my father and my husband said, and they said
- 33:16Coach Bee: it at separate times in my life.
- 33:18Coach Bee: And I don't think they ever discussed it.
- 33:19Coach Bee: And it was a dis the story about the lion in the gazelle
- 33:24Coach Bee: that every day in a jungle somewhere in this
- 33:28Coach Bee: world,
- 33:30Coach Bee: in the jungle wakes up two creatures.
- 33:33Coach Bee: One is a lion and one is a gazelle.
- 33:35Coach Bee: The lion wakes up knowing that it has
- 33:39Coach Bee: the goal and the need to protect its pride
- 33:43Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 33:43Coach Bee: To develop direction
- 33:46Coach Bee: and to hunt.
- 33:48Coach Bee: And that without hunting, the pride will die.
- 33:52Coach Bee: Right.
- 33:53Coach Bee: The gazelle wakes up knowing that as fast and swift as it
- 33:57Coach Bee: is, that it has to also hunt, but it also needs to
- 34:01Coach Bee: outrun who?
- 34:02Coach Bee: The lion.
- 34:04Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 34:05Coach Bee: So very much like life, you've got two dynamics happening.
- 34:10Coach Bee: All of us have the need to and the,
- 34:14Coach Bee: desire to succeed.
- 34:16Coach Bee: We want to provide for those that we love for.
- 34:20Coach Bee: We have this voice in the back of our head saying that,
- 34:25Coach Bee: when we wake up every morning, we've got to thrive, and we've gotta make
- 34:29Coach Bee: this thing called life work.
- 34:31Coach Bee: Some days we do great job.
- 34:33Coach Bee: Some days we don't just like the line in the gazelle.
- 34:35Coach Bee: But one thing we all know is we have to run.
- 34:38Coach Bee: We have to wake up with a run mentality.
- 34:41Coach Bee: Now we have to be careful about that run mentality because when those two
- 34:45Coach Bee: creatures get out of their character, their purpose,
- 34:49Coach Bee: it changes the whole dynamic of what?
- 34:51Coach Bee: The jungle of the ecosystem.
- 34:54Coach Bee: So just like purpose, we have to be clear what we were
- 34:58Coach Bee: designed for, why we were designed, and how do we survive.
- 35:01Coach Bee: How do we survive?
- 35:03Coach Bee: And so when I asked my husband, I say, you know, I
- 35:07Coach Bee: really need a powerful name for my firm, and
- 35:11Coach Bee: I'm just kinda struggling what I wanna call it.
- 35:13Coach Bee: And we threw around a lot of things, and he said one day he
- 35:17Coach Bee: said, I got it.
- 35:18Coach Bee: He said, the way you innovate and you should teach people how to reinvent
- 35:22Coach Bee: reinvent and reimagine themselves and their situations,
- 35:27Coach Bee: the way you, you know, kinda show people how to rebreathe again.
- 35:31Coach Bee: He said, in a very innovative way, he said, that
- 35:35Coach Bee: story about the line and the gazelle, the run, and the innovation,
- 35:40Coach Bee: I think the name Runvation is your company's name.
- 35:43Coach Bee: And that's how it came.
- 35:44Coach Bee: He named the company.
- 35:46Coach Bee: Yes.
- 35:47Lisa Nichols: I love that.
- 35:48Lisa Nichols: So I I had not even thought about that at all, but it's the
- 35:51Lisa Nichols: combination of innovation and run.
- 35:54Lisa Nichols: That is I love that.
- 35:55Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 35:55Lisa Nichols: Well, I tell you what, I have still a lot of questions, pages and
- 35:59Lisa Nichols: pages here of notes, but we need to take a quick break, and we'll
- 36:01Lisa Nichols: be right back with Coach Bee on the Something Extra podcast.
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- 36:35Lisa Nichols: Welcome back, everyone, to the Something Acre podcast with Coach Bee .
- 36:39Lisa Nichols: We just learned that her company, Runation, was named by
- 36:43Lisa Nichols: Rob, her husband, combination of run and innovation Right.
- 36:47Lisa Nichols: Which I absolutely love that.
- 36:49Lisa Nichols: But, Coach Bee , do you have a story that you can tell about
- 36:54Lisa Nichols: someone or a situation where you saw, like, this
- 36:58Lisa Nichols: power to run really come to life and, that it was transformational
- 37:02Lisa Nichols: for somebody?
- 37:03Coach Bee: Yes.
- 37:04Coach Bee: So, actually, there's so many of the these stories because
- 37:08Coach Bee: of the this being the main purpose of kind of, you know,
- 37:12Coach Bee: breaking off the chains of people, you know, when they're going
- 37:16Coach Bee: through these long term wounds.
- 37:19Coach Bee: And,
- 37:20Coach Bee: I would say that there's a group of women
- 37:26Coach Bee: that, we work through, technology partners with
- 37:30Coach Bee: a very if I said the name, which, again, I won't
- 37:34Coach Bee: break Mhmm.
- 37:35Coach Bee: But it's a name that everybody knows,
- 37:40Coach Bee: academic medical institution, I would
- 37:44Coach Bee: say,
- 37:45Coach Bee: that that's done a beautiful job of
- 37:50Coach Bee: bringing a very strong heartbeat of women into the organization
- 37:54Coach Bee: and marrying that with technology.
- 37:57Coach Bee: But like so many organizations I see, Lisa, unfortunately,
- 38:03Coach Bee: we forget that work environments,
- 38:07Coach Bee: workplaces
- 38:09Coach Bee: is really like a therapeutic institution
- 38:14Coach Bee: for most people.
- 38:15Coach Bee: We spend exorbitant amount of time at work.
- 38:19Coach Bee: Our minds are wrapped around what we do for a living.
- 38:23Coach Bee: Even when we're not there, we've got people working from home still.
- 38:27Coach Bee: Right?
- 38:27Coach Bee: Where their home office is just a few steps away from their bedroom and
- 38:31Coach Bee: their kitchen.
- 38:32Coach Bee: Right?
- 38:34Coach Bee: We've got people trying to manage through
- 38:38Coach Bee: being caretakers.
- 38:39Coach Bee: I have, I would say, eighty percent of my client
- 38:43Coach Bee: base are caregivers now.
- 38:46Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 38:46Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 38:46Lisa Nichols: Right. It's the
- 38:48Lisa Nichols: sandwich generation.
- 38:49Coach Bee: The sandwich generation.
- 38:51Coach Bee: And so Mhmm.
- 38:52Coach Bee: The wounds that people are walking with right now are just
- 38:56Coach Bee: incredible.
- 38:58Coach Bee: But the kind of unpacking the tombs of
- 39:02Coach Bee: isolation, getting back to resilient leadership,
- 39:06Coach Bee: resilient purpose driven lives,
- 39:11Coach Bee: is really what the power to run is about.
- 39:14Coach Bee: It is about taking
- 39:16Coach Bee: all of the mosaic pieces of
- 39:21Coach Bee: what makes us who we are, our purpose, our passion,
- 39:25Coach Bee: our past, the DNA we were born with, the families
- 39:29Coach Bee: we were born into or not born into.
- 39:32Coach Bee: Right.
- 39:33Coach Bee: The relationships we build as adults.
- 39:36Coach Bee: Right?
- 39:37Coach Bee: Our identities, our brands, per I mean, our personal brands,
- 39:42Coach Bee: and who we choose to do life with
- 39:46Coach Bee: all make us who we are.
- 39:48Coach Bee: But for some reason, when we go into trying to help people, we
- 39:52Coach Bee: only wanna focus on, well, are you a good leader?
- 39:57Coach Bee: We may touch on if they are getting counseling their the
- 40:01Coach Bee: spiritual needs.
- 40:02Coach Bee: Right?
- 40:03Coach Bee: We may they may go through marriage counseling, but what we don't do is
- 40:07Coach Bee: put the whole cell phone on the table.
- 40:09Coach Bee: So the power to run is about speaking to
- 40:13Coach Bee: the core blind spots of what pulls back an individual
- 40:18Coach Bee: first from an emotional intelligence perspective,
- 40:22Coach Bee: then unpacking how that person shows up in a intact team
- 40:26Coach Bee: or in a leadership team or on a board of directors or as a
- 40:30Coach Bee: community leader.
- 40:32Coach Bee: But we usually get this backwards.
- 40:34Coach Bee: We we want to skip the self stuff and just go into fixing
- 40:38Coach Bee: the group stuff.
- 40:39Coach Bee: So Right.
- 40:40Coach Bee: So the power to run is helping people sit
- 40:44Coach Bee: in a vulnerable
- 40:46Coach Bee: place of identification
- 40:48Coach Bee: with what has been they with how they've been walking wounded,
- 40:53Coach Bee: showing up as a CEO, CIO, CTO, whatever,
- 40:58Coach Bee: as a developer, whatever the space is.
- 41:01Coach Bee: Helping them unpack that first together.
- 41:05Coach Bee: Sometimes it's one on one coaching.
- 41:08Coach Bee: But teaching people that vulnerability has to be present
- 41:13Coach Bee: for transformation to happen.
- 41:15Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
- 41:17Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
- 41:17Lisa Nichols: You got to you gotta put it on the table, what it what it
- 41:20Lisa Nichols: is.
- 41:21Lisa Nichols: And as you were talking about that, you know, the thing is teams, organizations
- 41:26Lisa Nichols: are made up of single people.
- 41:28Coach Bee: Of single people.
- 41:29Lisa Nichols: I mean, of people.
- 41:30Coach Bee: That's right.
- 41:31Lisa Nichols: And so getting it right with the people and self first
- 41:35Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 41:36Lisa Nichols: I think it's paramount.
- 41:37Lisa Nichols: And, you know, I told you, Coach Bee , that I'm I'm I'm so excited
- 41:41Lisa Nichols: for you to read my book, Something Answer, that just that just blocked.
- 41:46Lisa Nichols: But the whole it's divided into four parts.
- 41:49Lisa Nichols: And the first part is it starts on the inside.
- 41:51Lisa Nichols: It has two.
- 41:53Lisa Nichols: It does.
- 41:54Lisa Nichols: And and listen.
- 41:55Lisa Nichols: It's it's I think here's the other thing.
- 41:57Lisa Nichols: And let me just say this.
- 41:59Lisa Nichols: It's hard work.
- 42:00Coach Bee: Yes.
- 42:00Coach Bee: It's hard work.
- 42:01Lisa Nichols: Sometimes we resist it because it is hard,
- 42:05Lisa Nichols: and it's sometimes uncomfortable Absolutely.
- 42:08Lisa Nichols: Really to ask ourselves those really hard questions.
- 42:11Lisa Nichols: Like, what am I putting my identity in?
- 42:13Coach Bee: Absolutely.
- 42:14Coach Bee: I just sat with a a a global just came from the
- 42:18Coach Bee: Bay Area two days ago sitting with another,
- 42:24Coach Bee: Technology Partners client and, again, global name,
- 42:29Coach Bee: leadership team.
- 42:30Coach Bee: And it never seems to amaze me to watch
- 42:35Coach Bee: the tears, the literal tears that fall
- 42:40Coach Bee: from not just
- 42:42Coach Bee: one versus another people's eyes
- 42:47Coach Bee: when they feel cracked open and for
- 42:51Coach Bee: me to start addressing what's holding them back, those
- 42:55Coach Bee: triggers.
- 42:57Coach Bee: Like I said, the legions of things that they've been walking with
- 43:01Coach Bee: their whole lives.
- 43:02Coach Bee: I mean, keep in mind,
- 43:05Coach Bee: we're sitting in a workplace with five generations
- 43:09Coach Bee: five generations of individuals.
- 43:12Coach Bee: And I know my girls, Hannah and Grace, they are well
- 43:16Coach Bee: able to emote what they feel.
- 43:20Coach Bee: Yeah.
- 43:20Coach Bee: I came from a generation that you press that stuff down.
- 43:23Coach Bee: You
- 43:24Lisa Nichols: That's right.
- 43:24Coach Bee: You burrow forward.
- 43:25Coach Bee: You do not allow yourself to get distracted.
- 43:29Coach Bee: But I'm here to tell you, I'm a living witness.
- 43:32Coach Bee: You have if you want to get on the purpose path, you've gotta
- 43:36Coach Bee: deal with your junk.
- 43:38Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 43:38Coach Bee: You've gotta unpack.
- 43:40Coach Bee: And and just like they say on the planes, you've got to put your
- 43:43Coach Bee: own oxygen mask on first.
- 43:45Coach Bee: There there's a reason why they don't tell you to reach over while you're
- 43:49Coach Bee: gasping for air and save the person next to you.
- 43:52Coach Bee: There's a reason.
- 43:53Lisa Nichols: Sure.
- 43:54Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 43:54Coach Bee: Right?
- 43:55Coach Bee: They say put yours on first.
- 43:57Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 43:58Coach Bee: Do it as quickly as you can if you want to
- 44:02Coach Bee: live and survive.
- 44:03Coach Bee: Right?
- 44:04Coach Bee: And you help the person next to you.
- 44:06Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 44:07Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 44:08Coach Bee: So it's just you know, you you we've gotta unpack that, and I think
- 44:14Coach Bee: we're in a place now where we're probably better positioned
- 44:18Coach Bee: because we're kinda backs against the wall.
- 44:22Coach Bee: There is no more you and them.
- 44:24Coach Bee: It is me.
- 44:25Coach Bee: Gotta deal with me.
- 44:27Coach Bee: And so, I love the work that I get to do with Power
- 44:32Coach Bee: to Run and the Transformation University because these
- 44:36Coach Bee: are the things I walk through.
- 44:38Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 44:39Lisa Nichols: I'm Right.
- 44:40Lisa Nichols: And you see and you see how liberating it is, Coach Bee , when
- 44:44Lisa Nichols: you can break those chains.
- 44:46Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 44:46Lisa Nichols: Whatever it is that you, you know, that you're carrying this burden on your
- 44:50Lisa Nichols: back.
- 44:50Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 44:51Lisa Nichols: So that's, I just love it.
- 44:54Lisa Nichols: I love it.
- 44:55Lisa Nichols: Well, gosh.
- 44:57Lisa Nichols: This is so good.
- 44:59Lisa Nichols: You know, you've coached over four hundred global leaders through the
- 45:03Lisa Nichols: CIO executive council.
- 45:06Lisa Nichols: You know, what what do you think and and it could be what we've
- 45:08Lisa Nichols: just been talking about.
- 45:09Lisa Nichols: These high capacity leaders, what do you think that oftentimes they need
- 45:13Lisa Nichols: that they don't ask for?
- 45:16Coach Bee: Space to breathe.
- 45:18Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 45:19Coach Bee: Space to be seen outside again of that high performing
- 45:24Coach Bee: space.
- 45:25Coach Bee: So, Lisa, I learned, through my leadership journey
- 45:30Coach Bee: and through self reflection and then in my practice that
- 45:35Coach Bee: though I have a love for people in general, and you probably just know
- 45:38Coach Bee: that about me, that I can go in the grocery store, stand next to
- 45:41Coach Bee: somebody picking tomatoes, and start a conversation.
- 45:44Coach Bee: That's just your husband always tells me, I can't leave you alone for two
- 45:47Coach Bee: seconds.
- 45:48Coach Bee: But I love people, but I'm real clear
- 45:53Coach Bee: about who I'm called to help.
- 45:56Coach Bee: So they're seeing people, and that there's knowing yourself,
- 46:00Coach Bee: and there's knowing your purpose.
- 46:02Coach Bee: And so even in the four hundred with the CEO
- 46:06Coach Bee: executive council, what I realized is that my job is to see
- 46:10Coach Bee: the four hundred from my eyes and not see it from everybody
- 46:14Coach Bee: else's because my eyes are divinely given to me
- 46:18Coach Bee: to see certain things in people.
- 46:20Coach Bee: So I have a gift to be able to see and call out
- 46:25Coach Bee: what I what I can see that unspoken thing in a person.
- 46:29Coach Bee: People always tell me, how do you just go right to my soul?
- 46:33Coach Bee: Well, it's because I took the journey of my soul opening up
- 46:38Coach Bee: and getting help there.
- 46:39Coach Bee: And I felt, like, my favorite client is one that's gone through therapy
- 46:44Coach Bee: and coaching.
- 46:45Coach Bee: Like, I love a person who has already signed up for self help.
- 46:49Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 46:50Coach Bee: But I don't shy away from those that know they need help and don't
- 46:54Coach Bee: know where to get it.
- 46:55Coach Bee: Right?
- 46:56Coach Bee: So,
- 46:57Coach Bee: I just find an incredible amount of the high performing individuals
- 47:02Coach Bee: tend to be the also the people that don't always,
- 47:08Coach Bee: care for themselves first.
- 47:10Coach Bee: Oh.
- 47:10Coach Bee: They are, like, the major servant leaders.
- 47:13Coach Bee: Right?
- 47:14Lisa Nichols: One hundred percent.
- 47:15Coach Bee: Yeah.
- 47:15Coach Bee: And they will they will lay it all on the line every day.
- 47:21Coach Bee: Like, when I ask them questions about when you wake up in the
- 47:25Coach Bee: morning, what do you think about first?
- 47:28Coach Bee: It's very rarely them.
- 47:30Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 47:30Coach Bee: And they've actually been programmed to think that if it's them,
- 47:35Coach Bee: they're that's egotistical.
- 47:37Coach Bee: That's prideful.
- 47:38Lisa Nichols: Selfish.
- 47:39Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 47:39Lisa Nichols: That's prideful.
- 47:40Lisa Nichols: That's hubris.
- 47:41Lisa Nichols: That's right.
- 47:42Lisa Nichols: All of those things.
- 47:42Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 47:43Coach Bee: Yeah.
- 47:43Coach Bee: So that's the the red thread I always see.
- 47:48Coach Bee: I don't care what organization, what city I work with.
- 47:52Coach Bee: I've worked with police officers, firefighters,
- 47:56Coach Bee: you name it.
- 47:57Coach Bee: I've worked in zoos.
- 47:59Coach Bee: I've worked
- 48:01Coach Bee: everywhere.
- 48:01Coach Bee: It I see it over and over again.
- 48:05Coach Bee: And sometimes it even saddens me because I'm like,
- 48:09Coach Bee: what are we putting in the water Why this is a even
- 48:13Coach Bee: even with my girls, I'm like, it is okay to take
- 48:18Coach Bee: time for yourself.
- 48:21Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 48:21Coach Bee: It is okay to love yourself.
- 48:24Coach Bee: That is not self centered in a negative
- 48:28Coach Bee: way.
- 48:28Coach Bee: You have to do that before you can love somebody else.
- 48:33Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 48:33Lisa Nichols: Oh, yeah.
- 48:35Lisa Nichols: We should do a whole podcast on that.
- 48:38Lisa Nichols: I'm Loving yourself.
- 48:40Lisa Nichols: Loving yes.
- 48:41Lisa Nichols: Because yeah.
- 48:43Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 48:44Lisa Nichols: I've got a lot to say on that, so we should do a whole
- 48:47Lisa Nichols: podcast
- 48:47Coach Bee: on that.
- 48:47Coach Bee: Lisa.
- 48:48Coach Bee: Let's do it.
- 48:50Lisa Nichols: This is good.
- 48:52Lisa Nichols: You know?
- 48:52Lisa Nichols: Well and I know that you're working a lot with women.
- 48:55Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 48:56Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 48:56Lisa Nichols: Student Technology Partners and what we're doing.
- 48:58Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 48:59Lisa Nichols: What are some of those patterns that you see with women?
- 49:02Lisa Nichols: What are those things that maybe are holding them back, those blind
- 49:06Lisa Nichols: spots that you see over and over, with women
- 49:11Lisa Nichols: in particular, Coach Bee ?
- 49:12Coach Bee: I will tell you there's two things I coach on religiously,
- 49:17Coach Bee: and they're nonnegotiables.
- 49:20Speaker 4: Mhmm.
- 49:20Coach Bee: Emotional intelligence and personal branding.
- 49:24Coach Bee: Now most people gonna hear this and go, well, coach would be well, duh.
- 49:28Coach Bee: Though we everybody know that's important.
- 49:30Coach Bee: You'd be surprised how little we know about our emotional wiring.
- 49:36Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 49:36Coach Bee: We wake up in the morning and refuse to take an emotional temperature.
- 49:41Coach Bee: And we show up doing work, stepping into a meeting,
- 49:45Coach Bee: trying to sell business, trying to fix technology issues, trying to
- 49:49Coach Bee: do strategy, and never have taken stock of, did I wake up right this
- 49:54Coach Bee: morning?
- 49:55Coach Bee: Did I show up right this morning?
- 49:57Coach Bee: And I will say for women because we're moms, we're mentors,
- 50:02Coach Bee: we're wives, we're partners.
- 50:04Coach Bee: Right?
- 50:05Coach Bee: We're caregivers.
- 50:07Coach Bee: I would say we are naturally wired to nurture and
- 50:11Coach Bee: take care of others.
- 50:13Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 50:14Coach Bee: But over and over again, when I have the one on one conversation with
- 50:18Coach Bee: a lot of my women in coaching and say, tell me how you're taking
- 50:21Coach Bee: care of yourself.
- 50:23Coach Bee: Before the conversation's over, the tears come down.
- 50:28Coach Bee: The eyes go down off of the screen if we're virtual.
- 50:32Coach Bee: The shoulders drop.
- 50:34Coach Bee: And I think that it's in that moment
- 50:38Coach Bee: that I'm always arrested, and it takes me back
- 50:42Coach Bee: to, like I said, the pictures of myself
- 50:46Coach Bee: when I was never taking stock of how
- 50:50Coach Bee: imbalanced and how unhappy I was.
- 50:52Coach Bee: And this is no reflection on my home life.
- 50:55Coach Bee: This is no reflection on who I work for.
- 50:57Coach Bee: It was just that no one gave me said it was okay and gave
- 51:01Coach Bee: me permission to live life fully unleashed.
- 51:06Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 51:06Coach Bee: To laugh, to dance, to have my favorite muffin,
- 51:11Coach Bee: to take time away,
- 51:14Coach Bee: to lay in the bed a little longer on a Saturday morning and not
- 51:18Coach Bee: feel like I gotta bolt off and do stuff.
- 51:20Coach Bee: You know?
- 51:21Coach Bee: To maybe have a messy closet every once in a while.
- 51:24Coach Bee: Just permission
- 51:27Coach Bee: not to be perfect.
- 51:28Coach Bee: And so I refuse to let my women even use the
- 51:32Coach Bee: word perfection around me.
- 51:34Lisa Nichols: Oh, good.
- 51:35Coach Bee: I tell them take that word out your vocabulary because it is the devil.
- 51:41Lisa Nichols: It is.
- 51:43Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
- 51:44Lisa Nichols: It is.
- 51:45Lisa Nichols: You know?
- 51:46Lisa Nichols: And I remember I mean and I can still fall in that trap myself,
- 51:49Lisa Nichols: but I remember a time, Coach Bee , where I was like, oh, I gotta be
- 51:53Lisa Nichols: the perfect wife, and I gotta keep the perfect house.
- 51:55Lisa Nichols: And we're having a dinner party, and I have to cook the perfect thing.
- 51:59Lisa Nichols: And I can still I can still fall into that, but, boy,
- 52:03Lisa Nichols: it's exhausting.
- 52:05Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 52:06Lisa Nichols: Literally.
- 52:07Coach Bee: Been delegating, letting someone else be the doer
- 52:11Coach Bee: because it's it's it's it's very egotistical.
- 52:14Coach Bee: We've we've been staying away for the word ego, but it is so prideful
- 52:17Coach Bee: and egotistical.
- 52:18Coach Bee: And it's a slow killer when we believe that we can only be
- 52:22Coach Bee: the ones to do stuff right.
- 52:23Coach Bee: And I do see that a lot more in my
- 52:28Coach Bee: female clients than in my male clients.
- 52:31Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 52:31Coach Bee: Now what I see in my male clients, because I don't wanna leave my
- 52:34Coach Bee: guys out
- 52:35Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 52:36Lisa Nichols: Let's let's hear what you see in them.
- 52:38Coach Bee: Is this weight
- 52:41Coach Bee: of providing.
- 52:43Coach Bee: Always providing.
- 52:45Coach Bee: Always fixing.
- 52:48Coach Bee: You know?
- 52:49Coach Bee: And so
- 52:49Lisa Nichols: They're fixers.
- 52:50Lisa Nichols: That's true.
- 52:51Coach Bee: So one of the things I've tried to start doing,
- 52:56Coach Bee: even at home, even with my male, business
- 53:00Coach Bee: partners and my clients, is doing the opposite that I do
- 53:04Coach Bee: with my female, clients is giving them permission
- 53:09Coach Bee: and say, what would it be like if you woke up
- 53:13Coach Bee: without that heavy weight of responsibility every day?
- 53:17Coach Bee: What would it be like if you just woke up
- 53:21Coach Bee: walking a little slower today, not rushing to fix.
- 53:25Coach Bee: What would it be like if someone tells you something, you just sit and
- 53:29Coach Bee: listen and not be the fixer?
- 53:31Coach Bee: You know?
- 53:32Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 53:32Coach Bee: You you actually unleash another part of your whole neurological system.
- 53:37Coach Bee: And so where we both men and women
- 53:41Coach Bee: carry a weight,
- 53:44Coach Bee: and none of us,
- 53:47Coach Bee: based off of our faith, are supposed to be walking with unending
- 53:51Coach Bee: weight.
- 53:52Coach Bee: We're supposed to be laying those burdens down.
- 53:54Lisa Nichols: Asking the burdens.
- 53:55Coach Bee: As yeah.
- 53:57Coach Bee: Asking for help when we need it.
- 53:59Coach Bee: Letting someone else come in.
- 54:01Coach Bee: Realizing that every assignment is not ours.
- 54:03Coach Bee: Every ball thrown is not ours to catch.
- 54:06Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 54:07Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 54:08Lisa Nichols: I had to learn that lesson the hard way too.
- 54:10Coach Bee: Oh, yeah.
- 54:11Coach Bee: We I mean, both of us.
- 54:12Coach Bee: Both
- 54:13Lisa Nichols: of us.
- 54:13Lisa Nichols: Used to say, oh, it's an open door.
- 54:16Lisa Nichols: And now I say an open door does not mean go.
- 54:19Coach Bee: Does not mean go. If the ball is thrown to you, j
- 54:22Coach Bee: ust like in baseball, some of them are going from the ground.
- 54:25Coach Bee: Doesn't mean that the game was a bad game.
- 54:27Coach Bee: It's just hue it's just human.
- 54:28Coach Bee: Human.
- 54:29Lisa Nichols: It is.
- 54:29Coach Bee: Being human.
- 54:30Lisa Nichols: It is.
- 54:31Lisa Nichols: Being human.
- 54:31Lisa Nichols: Being human.
- 54:33Lisa Nichols: Well, I I wanna just touch on this real quickly, and then we're gonna
- 54:36Lisa Nichols: talk about something extra.
- 54:37Lisa Nichols: But, you know, I mean, we've we have sprinkled faith in
- 54:41Lisa Nichols: here.
- 54:41Lisa Nichols: You and I both
- 54:44Lisa Nichols: believe in the same god.
- 54:45Lisa Nichols: We believe in the same savior.
- 54:48Lisa Nichols: He is fundamental.
- 54:50Lisa Nichols: He is like the the bedrock of my existence, truly,
- 54:54Lisa Nichols: and my business and everything.
- 54:57Lisa Nichols: You know, I mean and I know for me, and I think you would
- 55:00Lisa Nichols: say the same thing.
- 55:00Lisa Nichols: I mean, it truly my leadership, my decision making comes from
- 55:05Lisa Nichols: that place.
- 55:06Coach Bee: Yes.
- 55:06Lisa Nichols: It comes from that that deep rooted place in my
- 55:10Lisa Nichols: faith, and I know that I'm not doing those things alone.
- 55:13Lisa Nichols: In fact, God, please help me not do it alone.
- 55:16Lisa Nichols: You know, I need I need your strength.
- 55:18Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 55:19Lisa Nichols: I don't need to do things in my strength because Lisa's gonna get it
- 55:22Lisa Nichols: wrong.
- 55:23Lisa Nichols: But, you know, I mean, C oach B ee, we have all sorts of listeners.
- 55:26Lisa Nichols: And so there may be listeners that don't believe the way you and
- 55:30Lisa Nichols: I believe.
- 55:31Coach Bee: I'm okay with that.
- 55:32Lisa Nichols: And I'm okay with that too.
- 55:35Lisa Nichols: But how would you say to them, like, about this
- 55:39Lisa Nichols: whole idea of purpose and identity?
- 55:41Lisa Nichols: I mean, you still have to figure out what your foundation
- 55:46Lisa Nichols: is.
- 55:46Lisa Nichols: What is your true north?
- 55:47Lisa Nichols: And that can be your values.
- 55:49Lisa Nichols: That can be all sorts of things.
- 55:51Lisa Nichols: But, you know, I mean, there may be people that go, well, I don't
- 55:54Lisa Nichols: believe anything you're you know, you you think about that.
- 55:57Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
- 55:57Lisa Nichols: So, I mean, how do you what would you say to them?
- 56:02Coach Bee: Okay.
- 56:03Coach Bee: So I would say that let's ground on the fact that we're
- 56:07Coach Bee: all human.
- 56:08Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 56:09Coach Bee: Right?
- 56:10Coach Bee: And what what we believe in or how
- 56:14Coach Bee: we believe we got here, if we wanna put that up on the chopping
- 56:18Coach Bee: block for questions, that's fine.
- 56:20Coach Bee: I don't have a problem with that.
- 56:21Coach Bee: I tell my clients all the time, you know where I'm coming from, but
- 56:24Coach Bee: I'm here for you human to human.
- 56:28Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 56:28Coach Bee: And my goal is to help you understand
- 56:33Coach Bee: why you had to be put on this earth.
- 56:37Coach Bee: How you got here, how you leave here is not what
- 56:41Coach Bee: we're questioning.
- 56:42Coach Bee: We're questioning that you are here.
- 56:44Coach Bee: And part of what life is the essence of life is, I believe it,
- 56:49Coach Bee: is the the discovery through trials, tribulations,
- 56:53Coach Bee: triumphs,
- 56:54Coach Bee: through courage,
- 56:57Coach Bee: through recovery,
- 56:59Coach Bee: finding your grounding, is to understand
- 57:03Coach Bee: why you're here, who you're here for, and when you feel
- 57:08Coach Bee: most alive.
- 57:08Coach Bee: So I always kind of talk to my clients about fire.
- 57:13Coach Bee: So all of us have this internal
- 57:17Coach Bee: fire.
- 57:18Coach Bee: Some people may call it a flutter.
- 57:19Coach Bee: Some people may say it's my goosebumps.
- 57:22Coach Bee: It's some type of sensing sensory feeling that you get
- 57:26Coach Bee: when you're in this zone or in this pocket where you feel like you're
- 57:30Coach Bee: fully engaged or when you might be working from a place of
- 57:34Coach Bee: empathy where you can feel another person.
- 57:37Coach Bee: Whether you've been through what they've been through or not, that's not even what
- 57:41Coach Bee: we're talking about.
- 57:42Coach Bee: It's the ability to connect.
- 57:44Coach Bee: And, and that connection is human centricity.
- 57:48Coach Bee: And so if you are going
- 57:52Coach Bee: the majority of your life numb
- 57:57Coach Bee: and unaware
- 57:58Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 57:59Coach Bee: And disconnected,
- 58:01Coach Bee: then I would probably say you're not even we're not
- 58:05Coach Bee: even talking about purpose at that point.
- 58:07Coach Bee: We're talking about that tomb experience, that
- 58:11Coach Bee: cave experience of shame and unwillingness
- 58:16Coach Bee: to,
- 58:18Coach Bee: engage in life, fear, being grappled with fear
- 58:22Coach Bee: that literally arrest you and paralyze you
- 58:26Coach Bee: from being able to
- 58:29Coach Bee: experience
- 58:31Coach Bee: the full color of life.
- 58:33Coach Bee: And that is where we really need
- 58:37Coach Bee: to start.
- 58:38Lisa Nichols: You gotta start there.
- 58:40Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 58:40Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 58:40Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 58:41Coach Bee: Because, to talk about things like spirituality and
- 58:45Coach Bee: faith
- 58:47Coach Bee: with someone that is in a cave.
- 58:50Coach Bee: Like, think about metaphorically when we've read stories,
- 58:54Coach Bee: historical stories.
- 58:56Coach Bee: Right?
- 58:56Coach Bee: Context.
- 58:57Coach Bee: When someone is in a cave experience, they are in complete
- 59:02Coach Bee: darkness.
- 59:03Coach Bee: And to talk to them about outside of that cave is light,
- 59:07Coach Bee: they don't wanna hear that.
- 59:09Lisa Nichols: Does it?
- 59:09Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 59:10Lisa Nichols: Exactly.
- 59:11Lisa Nichols: Hearing
- 59:12Coach Bee: and feeling what you are in that moment of darkness.
- 59:15Coach Bee: All of us, even when we have grounding,
- 59:19Coach Bee: have true moments grappled of darkness.
- 59:22Coach Bee: Right?
- 59:23Lisa Nichols: We can go through.
- 59:24Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 59:24Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
- 59:25Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
- 59:26Coach Bee: And things like death, things like grief,
- 59:31Coach Bee: losing a job.
- 59:32Coach Bee: People are losing jobs.
- 59:33Coach Bee: People were working without pay.
- 59:36Coach Bee: You know, organizations are downsizing.
- 59:39Coach Bee: You know, we're being asked to do more with less.
- 59:42Coach Bee: We've got conversations about artificial intelligence versus human touch.
- 59:46Coach Bee: There's all these things that cause dark spaces
- 59:50Coach Bee: in our lives.
- 59:51Coach Bee: And at those moments, it's kinda hard to talk about
- 59:55Coach Bee: something bigger than us.
- 59:57Coach Bee: Right.
- 59:58Coach Bee: That is where connection.
- 1:00:01Coach Bee: Somebody being willing to come in the cave.
- 1:00:05Coach Bee: Somebody seeing you, being willing to pull you out.
- 1:00:08Coach Bee: That is the part of what I do that when I tell you it's
- 1:00:12Coach Bee: like electrifying for me, when I Mhmm.
- 1:00:15Coach Bee: See that cave open up and so Open up.
- 1:00:19Coach Bee: It never gets old for me.
- 1:00:21Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 1:00:22Lisa Nichols: Well, to use your words, Coach Bee , you become fully alive
- 1:00:26Coach Bee: Fully alive.
- 1:00:27Lisa Nichols: At that point.
- 1:00:28Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 1:00:29Coach Bee: Yeah.
- 1:00:29Coach Bee: And I would I would imagine even your book.
- 1:00:32Coach Bee: I haven't read it.
- 1:00:32Coach Bee: Can't wait.
- 1:00:33Coach Bee: But I feel like what I'm gonna experience when I read it
- 1:00:37Coach Bee: is you going into the cave with people with this book
- 1:00:41Coach Bee: and helping them create a path out.
- 1:00:44Coach Bee: And so I believe that we were designed not to be alone.
- 1:00:50Coach Bee: I believe we become alive and we come out the cave when someone knows
- 1:00:54Coach Bee: we're in there
- 1:00:55Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 1:00:56Coach Bee: And willing to call us out.
- 1:00:57Lisa Nichols: Willing to come in.
- 1:00:59Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 1:00:59Lisa Nichols: It's like,
- 1:01:01Lisa Nichols: I'll tell you another metaphor.
- 1:01:03Lisa Nichols: So I love the cave.
- 1:01:04Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 1:01:04Lisa Nichols: I love the cave metaphor.
- 1:01:06Lisa Nichols: Another metaphor for it is, doctor John Townsend, who has
- 1:01:10Lisa Nichols: written a lot of books.
- 1:01:11Lisa Nichols: He's a good friend, and he was on the podcast early on.
- 1:01:15Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 1:01:15Lisa Nichols: Well, this is probably twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.
- 1:01:18Lisa Nichols: And he tells the story of the well.
- 1:01:20Lisa Nichols: And he said somebody's in the well.
- 1:01:23Lisa Nichols: And he said, you put the rope down and you go, come on, Coach Bee .
- 1:01:27Lisa Nichols: Climb up the wall.
- 1:01:28Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 1:01:29Coach Bee: Right.
- 1:01:29Lisa Nichols: They can't climb up the wall.
- 1:01:31Lisa Nichols: You gotta jump in the well.
- 1:01:32Coach Bee: Gotta give them something that comes out.
- 1:01:35Lisa Nichols: Then.
- 1:01:35Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 1:01:35Lisa Nichols: You do.
- 1:01:36Lisa Nichols: Gotta give them something to come out for.
- 1:01:38Lisa Nichols: So I just I love that.
- 1:01:39Lisa Nichols: That's just beautiful.
- 1:01:41Coach Bee: Good.
- 1:01:41Coach Bee: I like that.
- 1:01:42Lisa Nichols: I know.
- 1:01:42Lisa Nichols: I know.
- 1:01:43Lisa Nichols: I know.
- 1:01:44Lisa Nichols: The well in the cave.
- 1:01:45Lisa Nichols: Goodness gracious.
- 1:01:47Lisa Nichols: We are running out of time here.
- 1:01:49Lisa Nichols: I mean, I'd love to talk about your daughters.
- 1:01:51Lisa Nichols: I'd love to talk about work life balance, so we just may have to
- 1:01:53Lisa Nichols: do a p art two.
- 1:01:55Coach Bee: Gotcha.
- 1:01:56Lisa Nichols: But a part two.
- 1:01:58Lisa Nichols: But my final question for you, and this is the question I ask every
- 1:02:01Lisa Nichols: guest, what is the something extra, Coach Bee
- 1:02:04Lisa Nichols: , that you believe every leader needs?
- 1:02:08Coach Bee: I think
- 1:02:11Coach Bee: so many things that's coming up.
- 1:02:15Coach Bee: I think going back to where we started with this is, what are the
- 1:02:18Coach Bee: voices that have renamed us?
- 1:02:22Coach Bee: What are the voices
- 1:02:24Coach Bee: that gave us our identity identity that has stripped us away
- 1:02:28Coach Bee: from
- 1:02:30Coach Bee: being on the path of purpose?
- 1:02:33Coach Bee: I talked about that for myself.
- 1:02:38Coach Bee: But for me, I would say it started
- 1:02:42Coach Bee: probably as little Benetta.
- 1:02:46Coach Bee: It can start when a parent sees their children
- 1:02:50Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 1:02:51Coach Bee: And what they named their children.
- 1:02:53Coach Bee: Right?
- 1:02:54Coach Bee: Yes.
- 1:02:54Coach Bee: If they stayed with their children, if they left their children,
- 1:02:59Coach Bee: if they've transposed their identity on their children, it can then trans
- 1:03:03Coach Bee: into when that child goes into the school environment.
- 1:03:09Coach Bee: Right?
- 1:03:10Coach Bee: And through the clubs and the clicks that they become
- 1:03:15Coach Bee: affinitized with, that can rename your identity.
- 1:03:19Coach Bee: And then you go off to a college or you start go to another
- 1:03:24Coach Bee: city, and you work your way all the way through life to this place
- 1:03:28Coach Bee: now called adulthood.
- 1:03:31Coach Bee: My challenge to myself,
- 1:03:34Coach Bee: to my friend Lisa, to our listeners is think
- 1:03:38Coach Bee: about
- 1:03:40Coach Bee: what voices renamed you.
- 1:03:44Coach Bee: And if those voices have driven you into a
- 1:03:48Coach Bee: cave,
- 1:03:49Coach Bee: into a rut, into a ditch, into a hard
- 1:03:54Coach Bee: place between a rock and a hard place.
- 1:03:58Coach Bee: It is your responsibility
- 1:04:01Coach Bee: to say to yourself, I am ready for the help to come.
- 1:04:06Coach Bee: It may be a podcast, this podcast.
- 1:04:09Coach Bee: It may be Lisa's book.
- 1:04:11Coach Bee: It may be someone that's been bugging you to go to lunch.
- 1:04:16Coach Bee: You're gonna always get the help when you cry.
- 1:04:19Coach Bee: You will get the help, but you gotta be honest about
- 1:04:24Coach Bee: where this started.
- 1:04:26Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 1:04:27Coach Bee: It didn't start with your current boss.
- 1:04:29Coach Bee: Sorry.
- 1:04:31Coach Bee: It started way back
- 1:04:33Lisa Nichols: Way before that.
- 1:04:34Lisa Nichols: Forever ago.
- 1:04:35Coach Bee: And so sometimes we walk into marriages, into jobs,
- 1:04:39Coach Bee: into partnerships, into businesses, and we're expecting those people
- 1:04:44Coach Bee: to figure this out for us.
- 1:04:47Coach Bee: We have to take the step.
- 1:04:49Coach Bee: And so sometimes in the cave, it's okay to cry,
- 1:04:53Coach Bee: cry out, but you gotta make a move.
- 1:04:58Lisa Nichols: That's oh, that's so good.
- 1:05:00Lisa Nichols: That is so good.
- 1:05:01Lisa Nichols: You gotta make a move.
- 1:05:02Lisa Nichols: Take that first step.
- 1:05:04Coach Bee: Yeah.
- 1:05:05Coach Bee: Yeah.
- 1:05:05Coach Bee: Figure out what the point is to start.
- 1:05:07Lisa Nichols: It can be different, and there is light.
- 1:05:09Coach Bee: There there will be eventually.
- 1:05:12Coach Bee: Eventually.
- 1:05:13Coach Bee: So, yeah, the power to run is our power to be
- 1:05:17Coach Bee: willing to be courageous and say where the voice has started.
- 1:05:21Coach Bee: Mhmm.
- 1:05:21Coach Bee: Not to place blame.
- 1:05:24Coach Bee: Right?
- 1:05:24Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 1:05:25Lisa Nichols: But to acknowledge.
- 1:05:26Lisa Nichols: To acknowledge.
- 1:05:27Lisa Nichols: Because if you if you don't really acknowledge the truth, you cannot
- 1:05:31Lisa Nichols: get past that.
- 1:05:32Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 1:05:33Coach Bee: Yeah.
- 1:05:33Lisa Nichols: So Yeah.
- 1:05:34Lisa Nichols: That is that's really good, Coach Bee .
- 1:05:36Lisa Nichols: Well, this has been delightful.
- 1:05:38Lisa Nichols: I knew it would be me.
- 1:05:40Lisa Nichols: And, yeah, I think you and I could probably talk for twenty hours.
- 1:05:44Lisa Nichols: Hours.
- 1:05:46Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 1:05:46Lisa Nichols: But thank you so much for making the time.
- 1:05:49Lisa Nichols: I know how busy you are.
- 1:05:50Lisa Nichols: Never.
- 1:05:51Lisa Nichols: And our listeners, follow Coach Bee .
- 1:05:54Lisa Nichols: Reach out to her.
- 1:05:55Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 1:05:56Lisa Nichols: If you need coaching, if you wanna learn more about what she's doing Mhmm.
- 1:05:59Lisa Nichols: With the Power to Run, please do reach out.
- 1:06:02Lisa Nichols: So thank you so much, my friend.
- 1:06:04Lisa Nichols: Have a great rest of your day.
- 1:06:05Coach Bee: And keep doing great things.
- 1:06:07Coach Bee: I'm so proud of the work you're doing.
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