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She's Making a List · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: This is a bramble Jam podcast. Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark,
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  Speaker 1: a Hallmark review podcast. I'm Megan and I'm a longtime
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark fan. I'm Wendy, I'm a former Hallmark hater. On
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  Speaker 1: today's episode, we will be discussing She's Making a List,
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  Speaker 1: which originally premiered on the Hallmark Channel on Saturday, December sixth,
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  Speaker 1: and is currently available to stream on Hallmark Plus. We
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  Speaker 1: from Mary Thanksgiving weekend, I feel like, no, we haven't
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I would like to say, I don't
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's fully off the rails. Yeah, yeah, but here
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  Speaker 1: we are again. We're back. I gotta tell you. Look
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  Speaker 1: at the calendar. I'm like, we're in the home stretch.
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  Speaker 1: It's happening. It's almost done. But the rest of my
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  Speaker 1: life is also falling apart. So, you know, is anybody
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  Speaker 1: getting a Christmas gift this year? Probably not. The floor
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  Speaker 1: of my closet is just bags and bags of gifts. Great,
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  Speaker 1: for my family, some of them, many of them are
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  Speaker 1: been It's only December eighth. I know, but as you
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  Speaker 1: and I discussed, based on my own personal scheduling, I
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  Speaker 1: really am about ten days left. Like the last week
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  Speaker 1: is fully off limits to me for any Christmas preps.
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  Speaker 1: So ill it's thinking the other day while I was
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  Speaker 1: in my closets where I do my best thinking, and
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking, we really need to do what we
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  Speaker 1: can to take the post Christmas through New Year's time
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  Speaker 1: off you and I, You and I, even though new
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  Speaker 1: of the game and we'll still be doing stuff. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: do the bracket. I don't know when yet. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: we'll look at the calendar. That's a good idea exactly
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  Speaker 1: what we're doing. Yeah, Because I actually was the other
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  Speaker 1: day thinking, I had like this vision of a reel
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  Speaker 1: in my head, be like coming December thirty, I don't know, Yeah, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: like a hype video. Yes, yeah, yeah, bracket coming soon. Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk. She's making a list, which I need to
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  Speaker 1: do as well, with a synopsis A naughty or nice
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  Speaker 1: inspector evaluating a girls Christmas status falls for her widowed father,
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  Speaker 1: making her question the strict rules of her consulting firm
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  Speaker 1: and forcing her to choose between protocol and love. She's
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  Speaker 1: making a list. Was directed by Stacy and Harding. This
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  Speaker 1: marks Stacy's sixteenth directing credit, and she's known for Hallmark
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  Speaker 1: gems like Round and Round and Mystery One on One,
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  Speaker 1: Deadly History. Some other titles that don't get talked about
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  Speaker 1: enough are Love Classified and Christmas Sale. Remember Christmas Sale?
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  Speaker 1: You know is? I had kind of forgotten about it?
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  Speaker 1: But yes, that father Doughter storyline hit hard That's a
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  Speaker 1: good movie. It does not get talked about, No, it
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  Speaker 1: does not. Is it from twenty twenty twenty twenty one?
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  Speaker 1: Like around that time? Right early? But I don't think
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  Speaker 1: twenty I don't think twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two. Yeah. Maybe The script comes from Joey de Paolo, who,
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  Speaker 1: according to IMDb, has only three writing credits, but Joey
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  Speaker 1: is credited with writing Hallmarks and American and Austin from
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. This marks his second Hallmarks green Play.
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  Speaker 1: I did do a little googling because when I went
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  Speaker 1: to IMDb and I saw like he only had like
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  Speaker 1: three writing credits, I was like, something's not adding up here.
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  Speaker 1: This is kind of a big movie for like a
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  Speaker 1: new new writer. So then I found he had a
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  Speaker 1: website and then he did American in Austin, but it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't on IMDb. Yes, hey, Joey, update your eye, get
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  Speaker 1: your people on that. Lacy Shabert stars is Isabelle. She
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  Speaker 1: also serves as executive producer on this movie. We last
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  Speaker 1: saw Lacey and Hall at the Halloween, and she will
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  Speaker 1: star in the forthcoming Lost in Paradise opposite Ian Harding.
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  Speaker 1: In January twenty twenty six. Andrew Walker co stars as Jason.
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  Speaker 1: This makes movie number five this year for Andrew, The
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  Speaker 1: Reluctant Royal Adventures in Love and Birding, Three Wisest Men
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  Speaker 1: and Parents in Holiday Touchdown, A Bill's Love Story five
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  Speaker 1: five titles for This Man, Busy Man, Caden's Compton Placed Charlie.
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  Speaker 1: This is her fourth Hallmark appearance and she has been
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  Speaker 1: seen the movie movies like an Easter Bloom and Sweeter
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  Speaker 1: Than Chocolate. Ella Sandro Miro plays Giuseppe with forty nine
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  Speaker 1: acting credits. We last saw him in The Santa Class
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  Speaker 1: as Blaze. Steve Basic appears as Rudolph. We last saw
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  Speaker 1: Steve on Hallmark Plus in Back to Back Aurora t
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  Speaker 1: Garden Mysteries from twenty twenty four. Larisa Tronco plays Heidi
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  Speaker 1: with twenty eight acting credits. Larisa has appeared in other
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark movies like Private, Princess Christmas and Love Classified Mystery.
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  Speaker 1: Wano One fans know her as Lacey Daniels from the
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  Speaker 1: first two movies. Bjay Harrison plays Wanda. She has a
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  Speaker 1: whopping one hundred forty nine acting credits. We last saw
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  Speaker 1: her on Hallmark in Holidays. Antonio Coyone plays Oscar Now
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  Speaker 1: side note. When Antonio showed up in this movie, did
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  Speaker 1: you immediately think of Friend of the Show Holly? I did.
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  Speaker 1: Holly is an Antonio super fan. I'm pretty sure she
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  Speaker 1: is the one who coined the term Coyone fans for
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  Speaker 1: his fan Instagram account. Love That. Antonio has forty nine
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  Speaker 1: acting credits and last appeared in Christmas Under the Lights
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  Speaker 1: and The Real West, both in twenty twenty four. Kurt
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  Speaker 1: Long appears as the Santa impersonator. He might look familiar
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  Speaker 1: to you, as he's appeared recently in Three Wisest Men
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  Speaker 1: and Adventures in Love and Burning. Dax Spellinger plays Santa.
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  Speaker 1: He has thirty five acting credits, with roles in North
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  Speaker 1: By North Pole, A dial S Mystery, and dial S
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  Speaker 1: for Santa. That's so interesting. Those titles are so similar,
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  Speaker 1: And when I was putting this, I was like, did
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  Speaker 1: he play Santa and all those movies? Those movies are
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  Speaker 1: not Hallmark movies, but definitely has our strong Santa Santa vibes. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and come back with our
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  Speaker 1: first impressions. Hey, Wendy, what is your first impression of
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  Speaker 1: She's making a list. I'm not saying I googled skin
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  Speaker 1: Mason for my husband after this movie. But I'm also
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  Speaker 1: not not saying that if you guys don't know what
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  Speaker 1: skin Mason is, maybe I just get served so many
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  Speaker 1: skin Mason ads because I'm in the Hallmark world. Skin
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  Speaker 1: Mason is owned by Andrew Walker, which is like a
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  Speaker 1: skincare line. It's a little confusing. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it's for men only or for it's for men and
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  Speaker 1: women only, but I thought Andrew really good in this movie,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, does my husband need those products?
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  Speaker 1: Did he have work done? Or is it skin Mason
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  Speaker 1: And maybe it's skid Mason. I don't know. I'm into it.
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  Speaker 1: My first impression is I spent the entire movie waiting
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  Speaker 1: for the Fred Klaus style reveal of there are no
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  Speaker 1: naughty kids, and I was not disappointed. You lost me
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  Speaker 1: at Fred Claus. Well, that's that. Is that the tam
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  Speaker 1: Allan movie. No no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
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  Speaker 1: Put some respect on Vince Vaughn's name. Oh wow, I
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  Speaker 1: do love Vince Vaughn. I recently saw Vince Vaughn in
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  Speaker 1: something and he looked really good. Anyway, Fred Klaus, I
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  Speaker 1: have watched too many Christmas movie Everything is blending together
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  Speaker 1: for me right now. Let me let me, let's get
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  Speaker 1: let me tell you about it. Please unpackage for me.
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  Speaker 1: Fred Klaus is the story of Fred Klaus, who is
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  Speaker 1: the brother of Santa Claus. Okay, Saint Nicholas. Vince Vaughan
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  Speaker 1: plays the brother and they have a troubled relationship because
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  Speaker 1: of course Saint Nicholas is the golden child MM and
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  Speaker 1: always was. Well, he needs money from his brother his
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  Speaker 1: father's like, I'll give it to you, but you got
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  Speaker 1: to come help me out of the North Pole. He
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  Speaker 1: goes to the North Pole. He happens to be there
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  Speaker 1: while the Inspector is there, who is played by Kevin Spacey,
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  Speaker 1: trying to get the North Pole shut down. Double V
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  Speaker 1: makes a choice. He's working the naughty and Nice list,
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  Speaker 1: got It. He's stamping the kids naughty nice, naughty nice.
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  Speaker 1: And then he has this realization based on his own
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  Speaker 1: childhood where he was the troubled brother. And he also
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  Speaker 1: has a relationship with a young kid named Slam who's
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  Speaker 1: kind of going through it. Ends up in a group
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  Speaker 1: home and he's like, there's no naughty kids. Every kid
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  Speaker 1: deserves a gift at present at Christmas. So you're saying
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  Speaker 1: that this is similar to that movie inspired by Got It.
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  Speaker 1: I really love the reveal the no naughty Kids. It's
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  Speaker 1: a very silly movie, but there's a very sweet Christmas
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  Speaker 1: morning montage at the end. Huh. Fred Claus also has
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  Speaker 1: the best North Pole I think I've seen in a
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  Speaker 1: Christmas movie. Oh really? How so, it's just incredibly well done.
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  Speaker 1: The little north Pole town. It looks cute, it's cute,
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  Speaker 1: it's not in Delaware. It's not in Delaware. Okay, can
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  Speaker 1: we talk about what we liked about this movie? I
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  Speaker 1: have a Philly Mega didn't like this movie. Guys, Oh
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  Speaker 1: I did like this movie. You should see my list
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  Speaker 1: of likes. I have a good long list of likes.
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  Speaker 1: Can I start. It's a little bit piggybacking off of
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  Speaker 1: what you just talked about with the Fred Klaus. My
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  Speaker 1: first like is that it's telling us that life isn't
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  Speaker 1: naughty or nice, that it is shades of gray, that
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  Speaker 1: people are murky and messy, and kids behave for certain reasons,
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  Speaker 1: and adults overreact for certain reasons, and life is not tidy.
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  Speaker 1: I was very drawn to this message. I agree with
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  Speaker 1: this message. I think it's interesting how they wove this
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  Speaker 1: like algorithm storyline into this thing of like, oh, you're
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  Speaker 1: either this or that. You can't be in the middle,
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  Speaker 1: Like there's no explanation for why people do things. You're
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  Speaker 1: either bad or good. I just thought that was an
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  Speaker 1: interesting story to tell. Yeah, did you like heid how
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  Speaker 1: she was like all in on clearing the name of
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  Speaker 1: this kid who Isabelle was convinced had killed all the
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  Speaker 1: other plants. But she was like I'm convinced what he
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  Speaker 1: was actually doing here is trying to fertilize them. Right, Like,
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  Speaker 1: She's like, we got to dig deeper, we got to
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  Speaker 1: look for more. We can't just look for the evidence
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  Speaker 1: that confirms our suspicions about these kids, right. I kind
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  Speaker 1: of thought it was an interesting message because I think
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  Speaker 1: right now in our lives, it's very much like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you support that, well, then you're in that box. Oh
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  Speaker 1: you like that, will you're in that box? Like you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's very dividing. I just thought there was a deeper
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  Speaker 1: message here. Yes, a naughty act doesn't make someone a
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  Speaker 1: naughty person, right in every case, in every case. I also,
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  Speaker 1: if I can just continue on real quick, Isabelle's monologue
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  Speaker 1: of Santa at the end, I thought was really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Her whole speech about labeling kids as naughty doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: them nicer, it creates wounded adults. I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: honestly compelling. See how it ties back to your Fred
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  Speaker 1: Claus nice example. Maybe it's also because you and I
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  Speaker 1: are both parents of almost adult children, and I think
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  Speaker 1: we can like look at it with some perspective that
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  Speaker 1: kids do things because you know they're acting out. Oh
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  Speaker 1: and they're learning. Like, I just thought that was so compassionate.
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  Speaker 1: Like this whole monologue, how she's talking about kids are
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  Speaker 1: learning and they need adults not to shame them on
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  Speaker 1: these things. They need the adults to help guide them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just thought, Wow, that's an interesting theme that we're
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  Speaker 1: exploring here. Call Mark. I do think it's an interesting thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think this movie stepped outside of the norm in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of ways, but there's a lot of you
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  Speaker 1: need choices. I really enjoyed the opening animation. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: me too, Lazy's voiceover Sam explaining the premise, explaining the job,
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  Speaker 1: who she is, just the kind of a lightwash of
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  Speaker 1: her personal history as well. What about her breaking the
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  Speaker 1: fourth wa I love it. Yeah. It gives this movie
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  Speaker 1: like we're letting you in on this secret. Yes, we're
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  Speaker 1: taking you behind the scenes. Yeah, I agree, And she
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  Speaker 1: does it really well. Here's a piece of the story
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  Speaker 1: that I loved. Charlie is talking to her dad and
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  Speaker 1: she says, one year, Santa's handwriting change yes, And in
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  Speaker 1: that moment I thought, oh, that's because she lost her mom.
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  Speaker 1: Then the reveal that it was because Santa had deemed
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  Speaker 1: her naughty and left her coal and dad had stepped
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  Speaker 1: in to play the role of Santa so that she
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't know. I just was like blown away by that choice.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I thought that was such That scene between
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Walker and that child actress Cadence was really good.
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  Speaker 1: His reaction to her, like he was like, oh, like
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  Speaker 1: he kind of thought he was caught by her too,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, she knows like something's up, Like I
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  Speaker 1: felt like she knew something was up. I really really
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  Speaker 1: liked that scene. I'm going to tell you there was
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  Speaker 1: a scene where Jason reveals to Isabelle that he's the
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  Speaker 1: one who had changed all the stuff about you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Santa stuff. I had this like epiphany while I'm
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  Speaker 1: watching this. This movie is treating Santa as truth, like
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  Speaker 1: we have to totally we're living in their world, that
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  Speaker 1: Santa is this real person who gives coal or gives gifts. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: And I just thought that was really interesting, Like I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel like a lot of movies do that. Am
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  Speaker 1: I crazy? No, you're not crazy, but you're also not
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  Speaker 1: a Christmas movie person. Yeah? True either. There are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of movies like Fred Klaus, like The Santa Claus
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  Speaker 1: that treat Santa like truth. Yeah, maybe I just haven't
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  Speaker 1: really noticed it on Hallmark. You're right, I don't watch
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  Speaker 1: a lot of Christmas movies, so for as many Christmas
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  Speaker 1: movies as we do, we don't always do a lot
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  Speaker 1: of Santa. Right. So you know we had the Santa
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  Speaker 1: class last year with the Magical Santa. Yeah, regardless, I
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  Speaker 1: liked the way they handled the truth about Santa. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's like the Secret of Santa, right. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: a really weird moment for me while watching. I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we live in this world where Santa is real, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and then I just moved on with it. Anyway, that's
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  Speaker 1: a me thing. Well, you talked about the character of
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  Speaker 1: Charlie and the actress Cadence. I mean, what pitch perfect casting.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed Charlie so much as this sassy preteen and
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  Speaker 1: the way she just gives it to Isabelle. I think
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  Speaker 1: her banter with Andrew and her banter with Lacy, I
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  Speaker 1: really liked her. Now I need to know what you thought.
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  Speaker 1: As the resident child hater of the team, I thought
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  Speaker 1: this character arc of Charlie being a bad kid was
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  Speaker 1: actually quite fascinating because homework rarely lets a child be messy.
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  Speaker 1: In this sort of way. We have her like stealing money.
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  Speaker 1: She does not love dad's new love life that's happening.
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  Speaker 1: She's acting out because of grief. I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: all really good, and this girl can act. She was great. Yeah,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm notoriously don't love kids in movies. I
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  Speaker 1: really liked this kid a lot. Now let me ask
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  Speaker 1: you Andrew. His character Jason in this movie is a
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: food critic who now consults with restaurants to make them better.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, is this a job at us? But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly what I thought that. That was exactly my question. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: did they make you rethink? I was like, are is
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  Speaker 1: this us? That is that what we're doing? Is this
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: effing play about us? What's that from? I don't euphore you. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen that. I just noticed a TikTok sound. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I thought about that for a hot second. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't think we've ever This isn't a takedown. Our podcast
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  Speaker 1: is not a takedown podcast. No, not by any means.
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  Speaker 1: But it did make me pause when he was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I used to be a food critic and I would
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  Speaker 1: write bad reviews, Like oh, that's not us. But it
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  Speaker 1: did make me pause for a minute. It didn't make
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  Speaker 1: me pause. I want to talk about Jason and Isabelle
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  Speaker 1: for a second. I loved how Lacey leaned into Isabelle's
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  Speaker 1: like flashes of being taken off guard by Jason's good looks,
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  Speaker 1: like especially when they first meet, like she does it
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  Speaker 1: really well. They're tiny beats. There's like a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a double take, flustered, a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: stutter like it felt real and funny. Hmmm. I thought
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  Speaker 1: their chemistry was super believable. Would you think of all
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  Speaker 1: of her very limited disguises, She's like, I'm gonna put
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  Speaker 1: on these glasses and now I am invisible. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: too hygieninxy for me, if that's what you're suggesting. No,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't. I just thought it was so funny. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna wash this window and literally stare in at
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  Speaker 1: them and nobody's going to see me. I mean, she
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  Speaker 1: did walk around like she was invisible. She's not. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't hate it, you know what I did love.
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  Speaker 1: Did you notice that the entire color palette for her
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: was like Kelly Christmas, Kelly green, Like everything she wasn't
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: always in green, but a majority of it was green. Yeah,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: it was so esthetically pleasing for me to look at.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Did you was there any point at which you wondered
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: if Lacey's character and the team of people she worked
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: with were more magical than corporate Oh yeah, I think
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I assumed that, But it feels like they're just people
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: who have contracted with Santa. Yeah. Kind of an interesting take,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: right it is? I have one final like, oh, two
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: final likes. The opening scene where the two kids lay
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Lacey Isabella is watching the two kids that are like
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: either playing with like a baseball or snowballs, I don't know, whatever,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: and one kid throws it up in the air and
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the other kid is kind of slow motion of like
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: watching the thing. Did this not remind you of Ralphie
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: from a Christmas Story where he's like, oh fudge. Nope,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: because I hate that movie and refuse to watch it.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Really can't stand it makes me physically uncomfortable. Why everything
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: about it? It's not on your absolutely watch list. No,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: although my husband likes the sequel, oh, he also hates
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the first movie. Yes, it's so weird that you guys
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: both don't like the first movie. I also don't like
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: it's a wonderful life. Oh, I don't think I've ever
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: seen that one. It's depressing. I had thirty seconds of
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: hope at the end of the movie. The rest of
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the movie is sad and depressing like real life. Yeah.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well, I thought that first scene reminded me
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of a Christmas story. And finally, my last
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: thing I liked. I like it at the end where
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: our two toxic masculinity guys get their gifts because they're
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: on the makeup list. You know, it was a nice payoff. Yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: close that loop there, their inner child was touched. Yes, well,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: let's talk wishes. Okay, I could have used some more
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: detail about Isabel's past. Agree, I think we could have
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: flashed her character out a little bit more. You know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: she says, there's me with my suitcase, so like she
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: lost her parents? Is she a foster child? Where did
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: she spend her time? What's going on there? You know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: what is the job that she does now? Her way
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: of like neatly categorizing things in a world that was
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: not neatly categorized for her as a child's I just
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I could have used more. We just had hints of it. Well,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I could totally project onto that if I may, she
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: falls into this line of, like, like you said, neatly
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: categorizing things, maybe because her childhood was chaos. Sure right,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I mean that's a what I have learned in therapy
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: personally about myself. I'm gonna be cynical twice first of
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: my wishes. And then I did see that what do
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: we think about the amount of surveillance we're doing on
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: these children? Like they got straight up video that they
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: can go back and red check. Well, it's pretend and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: ethically questionable. It is pretend, but they go like fire
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: it up. They're like, pull up the video. It walks
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: a line for me that these adults are watching children
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: all the time. It's all this video footage of children.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: There's nobody who's going it's pretend. Okay. While I really
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: enjoy Lacey and Andrew in this movie, they are both
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: really good at what they do. I liked Isabelle, I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: liked Jason. I think they make a nice team in
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: terms of working towards a resolution that works for Charlie.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: But I like the misfriends and partners but not in
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: a romance. Really, I enjoyed it good. I enjoyed it.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: There was never a part of me I was like, no,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: this doesn't work. Who do you like to see her with? Otherwise?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know who do you like to see him
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: with otherwise? Ashley Williams, Him and Ashley Williams. When were
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: they ever in anything to in your favorite freaking movie
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Jingle Bell Run? Oh yes, that's right. I was gonna
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: say Rachel Boston because they were in that Birdie. Oh yeah,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: really good in that movie. They were great too. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you know. Sometimes I guess
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: like Homerk's like, we gotta put our two heavy hitters together.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Let's let's do that well. And I think I think
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: that works actually for this movie, because sometimes I'm like, uh,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you don't know. I thought they were great together, but
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was like hot, fiery, steamy chemistry. Damn,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I'm fully having flashbacks to that dance scene in Jingle
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Bell Run. Jingle War Runs hot. Yeah, you're right, so
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: is Adventures on Love and Burding. You're right, this isn't hot,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: which is okay. Like I'm not hot and steamy either,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: so but sometimes I want that in my entertainment yeah, Okay,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I buy what you're putting down. Okay, what did you
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: wish for? I wish the pacing had been a tiny
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: bit snappier. I felt like the movie was just a
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: hair slow. It's not enough to like make me turn
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: to my phone. Mm. But I'm not exactly sure if
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: it was the pacin or the structure or just how
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: much like they're trying to build out this world. Yes,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of details, and like you like, we
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: missed the details of Isabelle's backstory, right, so maybe it
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: just wasn't like it didn't fully come together in that way.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: My only other wish is just Seppi at the top
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: of the movie with the insults when he when he's
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: presenting the cookies to Isabelle and Heidi and he's like,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: this one looks like you all scoalty face, and I
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: was like, that is rude, But it does close the circle.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Like he is a he was a naughty kid, he's
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: a not so great adult, right, and he gets his
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: just Seppi cookiees right, But like I thought, oh, I
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: took it personally. I thought it was funny, but also
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I was like, yike, like are we talking about somebody's
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: is just naffing play about us. Look as someone who
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: does not have a pleasant resting face, I dug it
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: personally got it. That's it for my wishes. Let's talk.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Did you see that I have two? Okay, they're just
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: they're not true. Did you see that's one? Is a question.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Charlie and Jason go to pick out the ugliest tree,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and I have to ask you, do you assign human
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: emotions to inanimate objects? Yeah? Yeah, So do you feel
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: bad for tree if you were? I know you have
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: an artificial tree, but if you were to go pick
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: out a tree, do you feel bad about like the
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: ones that are left behind? Yeah? Yeah. When I think
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: about like December twenty third and there's still trees in
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a tree lot that nothing happened, that makes me very sad. Yeah,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: they have a loser lives to raw on a home
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: depot parking. Yeah, it's kind of sad, it is. I mean,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I have that feeling too. We were decorating our Christmas
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: tree with my daughter and I were going through a
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: bunch of ornaments that we haven't used in a long time,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, let's just get rid of these,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and She's like, I can't do that. I was like, okay,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and then back in the box they went, yea, my
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: only other digite that was a Tears in Heaven reference,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: which is an Eric Clapton song Andrew Walker casually references
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: one of the saddest songs of all time. Was not
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: on my Bengo card? Was he talking about? What was
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: he talking about? He was talking to the pizza shop owner.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: When they were talking, they were it was in that scene.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember what they were referring to, but
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I was like Tears in Heaven. First of all, that
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: song came out thirty years ago. It is one of
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the saddest songs. It's truly truly my did you see
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: That's are just things I enjoyed and would like to
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: point out. I enjoyed Lacey saying I have a well
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: traveled nose after she's identifying candle sense. I thought the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: line was iconic. When Isabel and Jason are on their
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: date and Jason gets a phone call and he's like, oh, no,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Charlie came down with something. Because I'm a cynic, I'm like, no,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: she didn't. This is a fake out call to get
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: out of the date. And then we realized, No, it's
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: just Charlie trying to ruin it, break their dataup. Yes,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I really liked the AI naughty your nice two point
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: reference as the bad guy. I don't know if you
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: noticed so much keto talk this weekend in both movies. Yes,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and also a not directly keto but similar sugar free
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: reference in another series we're going to be discussing this week.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're right, just a lot of keto. Yeah. Finally,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: did you watch this movie live with commercials? No? Okay?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: So on when on live television, Andrew and Lacy were
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: hosting it, and so during the commercial breaks we'd get
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: little bits with them, and at one point there was
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: a cookie bit. And Andrew's like, oh, think I'll stick
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: to juice, and he like drink because it doesn't he
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: have a juice company. Yes, well, cut to the next
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: commercial break. He does take a bite of cookie. It
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: is the tiniest piece of cookie you've ever seen. Oh,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: this man doesn't any cookies. So there's no way, I mean,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: zero percent body fat, there's no heat. I mean it's
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: like a corner of a gingerbread foot. It's amusing to me.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: It amused me. Are you ready to rate. She's making
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: a list. I am. I gave it three and a
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: half stars. I gave it four and a half stars. Wow. Well,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: we're going to fight in our next episode too. Come
• 28:14
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