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- 0:08Speaker 1: Hello, It's Wednesday, the fourteenth of May twenty twenty five,
- 0:11Speaker 1: just after one o'clock and welcome to UK column News.
- 0:13Speaker 1: I'm your host Mike Robinson. Joining me in the studio
- 0:15Speaker 1: today is Charles Mallot. Welcome to program, Charles, Thank you Mike,
- 0:19Speaker 1: and by videolink, we have Vanessa Billy and Sandy Adams
- 0:22Speaker 1: snyleiter in the program. We're going to be covering the
- 0:24Speaker 1: victory in the High Court over low traffic, neighborhoods, online safety,
- 0:27Speaker 1: the Middle East and water scarcely. But let's begin, Charles
- 0:31Speaker 1: with allegations of war crimes by the British military.
- 0:35Speaker 2: We will, and in doing so, we'll examine what BBC
- 0:38Speaker 2: Panorama's latest offering I Saw War Crimes has to say
- 0:42Speaker 2: about itself. In this short clip from their advertising promotion.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Those who served with UK Special Forces are about to
- 0:54Speaker 3: break a code of silence. They don't want to be identified.
- 0:58Speaker 3: We've used actors to say speak their words, but they
- 1:01Speaker 3: want the world to know what they saw.
- 1:04Speaker 4: Everyone knew what was going on.
- 1:06Speaker 5: It's not Scout Camp.
- 1:07Speaker 4: Everyone knew what was happening.
- 1:10Speaker 5: People were murdered.
- 1:14Speaker 4: The government has set up a public inquiry, but it's
- 1:17Speaker 4: only looking at operations between twenty ten and twenty thirteen.
- 1:22Speaker 4: We've been told the unlawful killings started much earlier.
- 1:29Speaker 2: So that's been produced by Hannah O'Grady, who's been the
- 1:32Speaker 2: journalist at the center of much of this type of investigating.
- 1:36Speaker 2: And of course the critical part here really, insofar as
- 1:39Speaker 2: credibility is concerned, is that they are using actors. So
- 1:42Speaker 2: whilst on facebooit it might seem significant that Special Forces
- 1:46Speaker 2: veterans have stepped forward, they've done so in an anonymous sense,
- 1:49Speaker 2: so it is in that respect hard to know what
- 1:51Speaker 2: to make of it. I should say that I reported
- 1:53Speaker 2: on this last on the twenty fifth of September last year,
- 1:56Speaker 2: so there's not enough time to go into all that
- 1:58Speaker 2: detail today, so please look back at that news program
- 2:01Speaker 2: for further detail. I'm now just going to show a
- 2:05Speaker 2: little bit of video from what the BBC is describing
- 2:08Speaker 2: as being from the Special Forces taken in Iraq, and
- 2:14Speaker 2: the claims either Panorama program are that these sorts of
- 2:18Speaker 2: videos were produced by troops and squadrons deployed in order
- 2:22Speaker 2: to effectively promote competition between units, most particularly in relation
- 2:31Speaker 2: to what they call the kill counts. And so the
- 2:34Speaker 2: statistics here being shown on screen that over a six
- 2:36Speaker 2: month tour four hundred and twenty four detainees and nineteen
- 2:40Speaker 2: enemy killed, just as an example. Now, there's no suggestion
- 2:45Speaker 2: here that this was an isolated incident, isolated either to
- 2:50Speaker 2: the UK or indeed to Afghanistan or Iraq. And therefore
- 2:55Speaker 2: it's relevant to look to Australia, which has investigated this
- 2:59Speaker 2: in a official and perhaps comprehensive sense, And going back
- 3:03Speaker 2: to twenty twenty the Breton Report, which states that credible
- 3:08Speaker 2: information existed in twenty three incidents in which one or
- 3:12Speaker 2: more non combatants were unlawfully killed by or at the
- 3:16Speaker 2: direction of Australian special forces, which may constitute the war
- 3:20Speaker 2: crime of murder. Now, the Chief of the Australian Defense Forces,
- 3:26Speaker 2: Angus Campbell, spoke in twenty twenty, and it's interesting to
- 3:30Speaker 2: note the contrast between what he said and what has
- 3:33Speaker 2: come from Ministry Defense in the UK.
- 3:39Speaker 6: What the Inspector General finds is greatly at odds with
- 3:43Speaker 6: that good effort and damaging to our moral authority as
- 3:48Speaker 6: a military force. His report details credible information regarding deeply
- 3:55Speaker 6: disturbing allegations of unlawful killings by some I would respectfully
- 4:03Speaker 6: ask Australians to remember and have faith in the many
- 4:10Speaker 6: I assure you I do to the people of Afghanistan.
- 4:19Speaker 6: On behalf of the Australian Defense Force, I sincerely and
- 4:24Speaker 6: unreservedly apologize for any wrongdoing by Australian soldiers.
- 4:30Speaker 7: The Defense chief pointed to a culture of what he
- 4:32Speaker 7: said was toxic competitiveness between an SAS unit and commando unit.
- 4:37Speaker 7: The allegations General Campbell described as a disgrace to both.
- 4:42Speaker 7: He said it was a shameful record. There were incidents
- 4:45Speaker 7: allegedly involving patrol members who were coerced to shooting a
- 4:49Speaker 7: prisoner in order to achieve what was called a first
- 4:52Speaker 7: kill or blooding. We also heard details from the inquiry
- 4:55Speaker 7: that found the soldiers sought to cover up their crimes
- 4:59Speaker 7: by using what was called throwdowns, those being usually pistols, ammunition,
- 5:03Speaker 7: grenades or handheld radios to be placed on the bodies
- 5:06Speaker 7: of victims.
- 5:10Speaker 2: So that was a Channel nine report which becomes relevant
- 5:13Speaker 2: because all of this led to a man named Ben
- 5:17Speaker 2: Roberts Smith who was then a corporal in the Australian
- 5:21Speaker 2: Special Air Service and will just pop him on screen
- 5:24Speaker 2: now because he is crucial to what happened in Australia
- 5:28Speaker 2: and there are enormous parallels with what the BBC program
- 5:31Speaker 2: has articulated. But it should be pointed out that Robert
- 5:35Speaker 2: Smith found himself at the center of a defamation case
- 5:38Speaker 2: because back in twenty eighteen articles were written by journalist
- 5:42Speaker 2: Nick McKenzie, in particular suggesting that he had been responsible
- 5:46Speaker 2: for a number of extra judicial killings whilst in Afghanistan,
- 5:49Speaker 2: and in twenty twenty three this he sued for defamation
- 5:54Speaker 2: against mackenzie, but it was chucked out on the balance
- 5:56Speaker 2: of probability that he had in fact committed such Now,
- 6:00Speaker 2: at the time, Robert Smith was working for Channel seven,
- 6:03Speaker 2: a rival channel in Australia owned by Kerry Stokes, who
- 6:07Speaker 2: has bankrolled his appeal, which the decision for which is
- 6:11Speaker 2: due to be announced on Friday. So it seems beyond
- 6:14Speaker 2: coincidence that this could be happening at the same time
- 6:19Speaker 2: as the Panorama program. Now, for much more information on this,
- 6:22Speaker 2: I had point you towards the sixty minutes program in
- 6:24Speaker 2: Australia Theater of War, a link to which will be
- 6:26Speaker 2: in the show notes. And indeed this now brings us
- 6:29Speaker 2: back to the UK because the other thing reported by
- 6:33Speaker 2: the BBC is that this man shown on screen now,
- 6:36Speaker 2: General Gwynn Jenkins, whose strategic advisor to the Defense Secretary,
- 6:41Speaker 2: was at the heart of this at the time in Afghanistan,
- 6:44Speaker 2: and that he had knowledge by way of a report
- 6:47Speaker 2: back in twenty eleven when he was commanding UK Special
- 6:51Speaker 2: Forces in Afghanistan, and he sent that report up the
- 6:53Speaker 2: chain of command to the then Director Special Forces, who
- 6:56Speaker 2: was Mark Carton Smith, who went on to become Chief
- 6:58Speaker 2: of the Defense Staff here in the UK. What Jenkins
- 7:02Speaker 2: is accused of not doing is passing that report to
- 7:05Speaker 2: the Ron Military Police further investigation, and again I refer
- 7:08Speaker 2: you back to my report of the twenty fifth of
- 7:10Speaker 2: September last year. Jenkins has subsequently gone on to be
- 7:14Speaker 2: Director Special Forces himself and is accused there of overseeing
- 7:20Speaker 2: the blocking of Afghan attendees at the inquiry into events
- 7:26Speaker 2: in Afghanistan, which has been going on for some considerable
- 7:29Speaker 2: period of time now. Now added to that, he is
- 7:33Speaker 2: also tipped to be the next First Sea Lord, which
- 7:35Speaker 2: course is pertinent in so far as Ben Key, the
- 7:38Speaker 2: current incumbent, has just stepped down over an affair with
- 7:42Speaker 2: the female subordinate, which Brian will talk a bit more
- 7:45Speaker 2: about on Monday. And what this brings to mind is
- 7:48Speaker 2: the government's decision to repeal and replace the Northern Ireland
- 7:52Speaker 2: Troubles Legacy and Reconciliation Act in twenty twenty three. So
- 7:56Speaker 2: there's an awful lot more to this story than meets
- 7:59Speaker 2: the eye, and it's not entirely certain why the BBC
- 8:02Speaker 2: would be putting it out now and what there is
- 8:04Speaker 2: to it. That one possibility is that it does certainly
- 8:08Speaker 2: seem to obscure much of what's been going on in Gaza.
- 8:11Speaker 2: There is a sort of normalization of war crimes because
- 8:13Speaker 2: there's been a considerable reaction against this, as though this
- 8:16Speaker 2: is all part and parcel of the job. So I
- 8:18Speaker 2: think there's going to be much more to talk about
- 8:20Speaker 2: this in extra.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Thanks Charles Vanessa. Let's come to you then. And of
- 8:25Speaker 1: course Trump has been inside the Arrabia. So what has
- 8:28Speaker 1: he been up to?
- 8:31Speaker 8: Yeah, well, apparently Trump has been arranging to meet with
- 8:36Speaker 8: Joe Lanni, the head of the Syrian Hunter, which of
- 8:41Speaker 8: course is basically al Kaeda that came to power after
- 8:44Speaker 8: the International Crew of December twenty twenty four. I don't
- 8:51Speaker 8: know if their slides are a bit mixed up because
- 8:54Speaker 8: this one is a little bit further on, but I'll
- 8:58Speaker 8: just keep going. So this is basically the first meeting
- 9:03Speaker 8: of a US president with a Syrian president in twenty
- 9:07Speaker 8: five years. Of course, unfortunately, this is a meeting with
- 9:15Speaker 8: the leader of al Qaeda. And we hear, of course
- 9:18Speaker 8: that Trump has had the meeting this morning in Saudi
- 9:22Speaker 8: Arabia before he headed off to catal And this is
- 9:26Speaker 8: basically following a meeting in Damascus between a Trump let's say,
- 9:34Speaker 8: one of the Trump management, Jonathan Bass, who was reported
- 9:38Speaker 8: by Syrian media to have gone to Damascus to meet
- 9:42Speaker 8: with Joe Lani in order to lay the ground for
- 9:47Speaker 8: the meeting with Trump. Jonathan Bass is someone who on
- 9:53Speaker 8: his ex account talks about respect for religious freedom and
- 9:58Speaker 8: coexistence without a of course, mentioning the fact that Israel
- 10:01Speaker 8: itself has no respect for the coexistence with Palestinians and
- 10:06Speaker 8: is currently genociding Palestinians in the occupied territories and in Gaza.
- 10:12Speaker 8: Now as a result of Bass meeting, apparently, jo Lani
- 10:16Speaker 8: basically agreed to give America access to oil reserves in
- 10:23Speaker 8: Syria and to further and expand trade with the United States,
- 10:28Speaker 8: which of course means occupation by the likes of the
- 10:31Speaker 8: International Monetary Fund and overall control by the US and
- 10:36Speaker 8: Israel of the Syrian economy going forward. He also promised
- 10:42Speaker 8: Trump a Trump Tower to be built in the middle
- 10:45Speaker 8: of Damascus, and so all of these sweeteners were basically
- 10:52Speaker 8: to give him the opportunity to meet with Trump, and
- 10:55Speaker 8: that in fact led to Trump lifting the sanctions on
- 11:00Speaker 8: Al Qaeda, which had been in place. All the sanctions
- 11:03Speaker 8: rather had been in place since nineteen seventy nine onwards.
- 11:07Speaker 8: So let's just listen to Trump addressing the Gulf States
- 11:12Speaker 8: regarding the lifting of sanctions on Syria, and also.
- 11:17Speaker 9: With President Erdigan of Turkey, who called me the other
- 11:21Speaker 9: day and asked for a very similar thing among others
- 11:25Speaker 9: and friends of mine, people that have a lot of
- 11:27Speaker 9: respect for in the Middle East. I will be ordering
- 11:31Speaker 9: the cessation of sanctions against Syria in order to give
- 11:34Speaker 9: them a chance at raapers.
- 12:01Speaker 10: Oh what I do for the Crown Prince.
- 12:22Speaker 8: But of course, you know, part of this deal was
- 12:25Speaker 8: effectively the normalization between Syria and normalization of relations between
- 12:31Speaker 8: Syria and Israel, which apparently has been achieved, and Trump
- 12:36Speaker 8: is not lifting all the sanctions. I'm told by sources
- 12:39Speaker 8: in Syria that around thirty percent have actually been lifted,
- 12:42Speaker 8: So this seems to be a bit more of a
- 12:44Speaker 8: gesture than anything else. And I don't know if we
- 12:47Speaker 8: can go back to the slide from Mardowa, because she
- 12:53Speaker 8: basically went on her telegram channel to talk about the
- 12:58Speaker 8: you know what has not been a fat acted basically
- 13:00Speaker 8: by Trunk's grand gesture in front of Saudi Arabia in particular,
- 13:06Speaker 8: and I very much paraphrase what she said, but basically
- 13:09Speaker 8: it doesn't mean an end to US illegal occupation of
- 13:13Speaker 8: Syrian resources, either directly or by proxy. No end to
- 13:18Speaker 8: Israeli aggression against Syria, the bombing of multiple sites across
- 13:22Speaker 8: Syria since December twenty twenty four, no reversal of the
- 13:27Speaker 8: Turkish theft of Aleppo industry which began in twenty eleven,
- 13:32Speaker 8: no trade without US or Israeli approval, and of course
- 13:37Speaker 8: basically the embedding of US and EU and UK banking
- 13:41Speaker 8: facilities in Syria to ensure future control. No military or defense,
- 13:47Speaker 8: much of which was destroyed by Israel from December last
- 13:50Speaker 8: year onwards. No unity of the Syrian minorities because we're
- 13:54Speaker 8: heading towards partitioning no end, of course, to the ethnic
- 13:58Speaker 8: cleansing by sorry, I think that's type correction in the
- 14:03Speaker 8: system by Joe Lani's gangs, because of course, what they're
- 14:08Speaker 8: effectively doing is normalizing al Qaeda as a leadership for
- 14:12Speaker 8: Syria and effectively also normalizing the ethnic cleansing programs that
- 14:18Speaker 8: have been carried out by the forces under the control
- 14:23Speaker 8: of Jolani. And in fact, of course, what did Trump
- 14:26Speaker 8: get from Saudi Arabia in return the biggest arms deal
- 14:32Speaker 8: in history, dozens of US defense companies so called defense companies,
- 14:38Speaker 8: providing one hundred and forty two billion arms package, also
- 14:45Speaker 8: reported to probably expand beyond that, including air and missile defense,
- 14:50Speaker 8: air force capability, space advancement, and maritime security. And of
- 14:56Speaker 8: course we have to bear in mind that none of
- 14:58Speaker 8: that would be done unless Saudi Arabia had agreed to
- 15:02Speaker 8: normalize with Israel, because Israel would not allow Saudi Arabia
- 15:05Speaker 8: to develop any kind of offense or serious defense capability
- 15:10Speaker 8: unless it was approved by Israel and to Israel's advantage,
- 15:14Speaker 8: And looking at the fact that maritime security is part
- 15:17Speaker 8: of the deal of course that would also impact on Iran.
- 15:22Speaker 8: And if we remember what Jonathan Bass also said that
- 15:25Speaker 8: he agreed with Joe Lani that there would be cooperation
- 15:28Speaker 8: between Jolani, Syria and the US to basically go against
- 15:35Speaker 8: Iran in the future. This is all while, of course,
- 15:39Speaker 8: the US is allegedly conducting negotiations with Iran. And then finally,
- 15:45Speaker 8: the video shows Trump talking about the sanctions that he's
- 15:49Speaker 8: very recently imposed upon Iran. So let's have a look
- 15:52Speaker 8: at that.
- 15:54Speaker 11: I want to make a deal with Iran. I want
- 15:56Speaker 11: to do something of as possible. But for that to happen,
- 15:59Speaker 11: it stop sponsoring terror, halt its bloody proxy wars, and
- 16:04Speaker 11: permanently and verifiably sees its pursuit of nuclear weapons. They
- 16:08Speaker 11: cannot have a nuclear weapon. I don't imagine as anybody
- 16:12Speaker 11: at this table or anybody in this room that would
- 16:14Speaker 11: say they can. I'm strongly urging all nations to join
- 16:19Speaker 11: us in fully and totally enforcing the sanctions that I
- 16:22Speaker 11: just placed on Iran. And we also place secondary sanctions
- 16:27Speaker 11: which are in certain ways even more devastating.
- 16:33Speaker 8: So secondary devastating sanctions, and as I said, all this
- 16:38Speaker 8: literally a couple of days after the negotiations in Arman
- 16:42Speaker 8: between Stephen Whitcroff and the Iranian representatives.
- 16:47Speaker 5: Thank you for that, Vanessa, thank you.
- 16:49Speaker 1: Now let's come back to the UK and still talking
- 16:53Speaker 1: military matters and well Brexit without the exit continues and
- 17:00Speaker 1: Nigel is silent. The Times here claims that they have
- 17:04Speaker 1: had sight of leaked documents now being an organ of
- 17:08Speaker 1: the deep state, I'm sure it was a leak.
- 17:10Speaker 5: Sarcasm over.
- 17:12Speaker 1: The Times says that and I quote leaked defense deal
- 17:15Speaker 1: warns that Europe face is the greatest threat in the
- 17:18Speaker 1: generation from Russia. Sorry, I've put the wrong graphic on
- 17:22Speaker 1: I do apologize.
- 17:24Speaker 5: That was Vanessa the.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Greatest threat in a generation from Russia as it pledges
- 17:29Speaker 1: closer cooperation on military matters with the EU. And The
- 17:34Speaker 1: Times goes on to report that the UK and the
- 17:36Speaker 1: EU will unveil a defense and Security Pact next week
- 17:39Speaker 1: as part of a wide ranging deal that will bring
- 17:42Speaker 1: Britain into the closest alignment it has had with the
- 17:44Speaker 1: EU since Brexit. Now, they say that the security pact
- 17:48Speaker 1: says that the UK and the EU face a decisive
- 17:51Speaker 1: moment and the greatest threat in a generation because of
- 17:56Speaker 1: Russia's invasion of Ukraine and a campaign of espionage and
- 18:00Speaker 1: sabotage in the West. It says the seriousness of the
- 18:03Speaker 1: challenge requires a unique and ambitious new agreement on security,
- 18:07Speaker 1: and they point to the threat from Trump as another cause.
- 18:11Speaker 1: And they say it also provides a mechanism for joint
- 18:15Speaker 1: working of the US. Sorry if the US refuse to
- 18:17Speaker 1: alloy action under NATO's auspices. In this context, they say
- 18:21Speaker 1: that EU and the UK have decided to establish an
- 18:23Speaker 1: implement tailor made mutually beneficial security and defense partnership that
- 18:28Speaker 1: will frame their overall cooperation across security and defense spectrum. Now,
- 18:34Speaker 1: for the EU's part, they say they're happy for the
- 18:37Speaker 1: UK to join the Common Security and Defense Policy which
- 18:40Speaker 1: enables URSULA to deploy European troops seccorded from member states
- 18:45Speaker 1: in peacekeeping missions. And get look at this, the collective
- 18:49Speaker 1: self defense of European states. And I'm going to say,
- 18:53Speaker 1: isn't this the role of NATO? And actually, what does
- 18:55Speaker 1: collective self defense mean anyway? And hasn't all of NATO's
- 18:59Speaker 1: aggress aggress over the last few decades been in the
- 19:02Speaker 1: name of selective self defense? So this is exactly what
- 19:07Speaker 1: the UK column has been warning about since twenty eleven.
- 19:11Speaker 1: In fact, no other media organization has been covering this
- 19:14Speaker 1: at all. The Express has given it some brief mentions
- 19:19Speaker 1: from time to time, but never in massive detail, and
- 19:22Speaker 1: this is a topic which Nigel Faraja and all the
- 19:24Speaker 1: parties which he has led have steadfastly refused to engage with.
- 19:30Speaker 1: We've also been warning since the day after the referendum
- 19:34Speaker 1: that Brexit was and is without the Exit. We were
- 19:38Speaker 1: heavily criticized for saying that at the time. Despite all
- 19:41Speaker 1: the whoa over the Great Repeal Bill, successful successive British
- 19:46Speaker 1: prime ministers have kept the UK more or less aligned
- 19:48Speaker 1: with the EU regulations and standards to make it as
- 19:51Speaker 1: easy as possible to bring the country back into as
- 19:55Speaker 1: close an arrangement with the EU as possible, and there
- 19:58Speaker 1: could be no doubt that the reason Theritish government signed
- 20:01Speaker 1: up that to such a bad deal following Brexit was
- 20:04Speaker 1: specifically to make it as painful as possible for ordinary
- 20:07Speaker 1: people and therefore to drive support for exactly this now.
- 20:12Speaker 1: The Times, then, in their article goes on to point
- 20:14Speaker 1: out that the Defense Pact will be the centerpiece of
- 20:17Speaker 1: a summit this month that will what they describe is
- 20:21Speaker 1: open the way for the UK to restart selling food
- 20:24Speaker 1: and agricultural policy products to the EU without customs checks.
- 20:28Speaker 1: It will also commit both sides to working together to
- 20:30Speaker 1: agree a separate deals such as issues around youth mobility scheme,
- 20:35Speaker 1: the energy and energy market cooperation. So that is a
- 20:40Speaker 1: Brexit without the exit. And we told you that this
- 20:43Speaker 1: was the situation when no one else was, including Nagel Farage,
- 20:46Speaker 1: So you can take from that what you wish.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Any thoughts plenty, Yes, I mean I think well, we
- 20:54Speaker 2: spoke about it last week, and as you say consistently,
- 20:56Speaker 2: you know that the Defense Union side of it is
- 21:01Speaker 2: sort of a case in point that we see across
- 21:04Speaker 2: the board where if you chuck enough paperwork out there,
- 21:08Speaker 2: and you make enough sort of formal and informal relationships
- 21:13Speaker 2: with other countries or other armed forces or something along
- 21:17Speaker 2: that line, you're paving the way to be able to
- 21:21Speaker 2: just do anything. At any point you can always relate
- 21:24Speaker 2: back to something that you have committed to in the
- 21:28Speaker 2: past that enables what's happening now. And also I would
- 21:30Speaker 2: just say that quite like you point out, as far
- 21:34Speaker 2: as NATO is concerned, is it really acting within the
- 21:38Speaker 2: specific scope of its articles. I don't think so at all.
- 21:41Speaker 2: I don't think one can take that judgment, certainly not
- 21:43Speaker 2: since early twenty twenty two. So there's an awful lot
- 21:47Speaker 2: of hypocrisy in this, and I certainly it'd be very
- 21:50Speaker 2: interesting to see where this sort of you know, undoing
- 21:53Speaker 2: Brexit meeting takes us.
- 21:56Speaker 1: Yes, Vanessa, very briefly, what are your thoughts on the
- 21:58Speaker 1: idea of Ersilov and Learn having the ability to deploy
- 22:02Speaker 1: troops in collective self defense.
- 22:06Speaker 8: Well, as you said, we've talked about it multiple times
- 22:09Speaker 8: on UK column. Not a surprise, But obviously that does
- 22:14Speaker 8: seem to be a sort of a D linkage between
- 22:18Speaker 8: the US and the EU, but also apparently at the moment,
- 22:21Speaker 8: between the US and Israel to some degree. So I
- 22:24Speaker 8: do wonder whether it is a true D linking or
- 22:29Speaker 8: whether it's a way of enabling certain elements within the
- 22:34Speaker 8: Alliance to operate alone.
- 22:37Speaker 5: Yes, good point. Okay, thank you for that.
- 22:39Speaker 1: Sadly, let's come on to you then, and well, perhaps
- 22:42Speaker 1: we could consider this to be a good news story
- 22:46Speaker 1: with the recent activity in the High Court over low
- 22:50Speaker 1: traffic zones.
- 22:52Speaker 12: Yes, and don't we need cheering up a bit to
- 22:54Speaker 12: be honest. Yes. On the ninth of May, a South
- 22:59Speaker 12: London local campaign group, the West Doulige Action Group, won
- 23:03Speaker 12: a High Court victory against Lambeth Council in a judicial
- 23:06Speaker 12: review to scrap low traffic neighborhood schemes in the area.
- 23:09Speaker 12: Now this potentially could over to the first time it's
- 23:13Speaker 12: happened that these schemes have been lawfully challenged in the
- 23:17Speaker 12: High courts and this could potentially overturn LTNs fifteen minute
- 23:22Speaker 12: cities and low traffic neighborhoods. Sorry, what do they call
- 23:29Speaker 12: liverable neighborhoods? Sorry, they've got so many words for them. Anyway,
- 23:32Speaker 12: these schemes are very flawed and this all came to
- 23:37Speaker 12: light in this particular case prior to seeking the judicial reviews.
- 23:42Speaker 12: It was done under a judicial review and these are
- 23:45Speaker 12: the people that the main people that challenged it, the group,
- 23:50Speaker 12: and they prior to seeking this judicial review. The West
- 23:54Speaker 12: St Dolish Campaign Group has submitted a fifty three page
- 23:57Speaker 12: dossier to the council highlighting it what he's what they
- 24:00Speaker 12: saw as flaws in the process. This included concerns about
- 24:04Speaker 12: the LTN worsening air pollution, displacing traffic into boundary roads,
- 24:08Speaker 12: increasing road danger to residential streets. There was also concerns
- 24:13Speaker 12: that the overwhelming levels of opposition about sixty five No
- 24:17Speaker 12: sixty seven point five percent were literally being ignored, and
- 24:21Speaker 12: the High Court ruled that Lambeth Council acted unlawfully in
- 24:24Speaker 12: implementing the LTN. The Court found that the Council failed
- 24:28Speaker 12: to properly consider this this fifty three page report, which
- 24:31Speaker 12: is a massive flaw, and the failure to have done
- 24:35Speaker 12: this was a serious failing, rendering the decision to make
- 24:39Speaker 12: the court the orders unlawful. So this is really quite big.
- 24:43Speaker 12: And the counselors who challenged it, I mean the sorry
- 24:50Speaker 12: the activists that cant that challenged it, They said Lambeth
- 24:55Speaker 12: Council chose to spend public funds fighting the very community
- 24:59Speaker 12: excit to serve, rather than sitting down with us to
- 25:02Speaker 12: find a workable, locally supported solution. Meanwhile, over seven hundred
- 25:07Speaker 12: residents and businesses had no choice but to raise more
- 25:11Speaker 12: than fifty pounds to just have their voices heard. It's
- 25:15Speaker 12: a shameful misuse of resources that could have been avoided
- 25:18Speaker 12: through genuine engagement. And the judge who presided over this
- 25:28Speaker 12: his name is Tim Smith. So the council was guilty
- 25:32Speaker 12: of a master class in selective partial reporting in how
- 25:36Speaker 12: it reported the outcome of a library consultation. Now, these
- 25:39Speaker 12: consultations we know are flawed because they're not done in
- 25:44Speaker 12: any way that's representative of the community that they're trying
- 25:50Speaker 12: to push this consensus on. So this is another example
- 25:55Speaker 12: of councils acting ultravirus, which really means serious over each
- 25:59Speaker 12: beyond the sky of their authority or the power granted
- 26:02Speaker 12: to them by law. And we're seeing this across the board,
- 26:05Speaker 12: particularly where I am, where freedom of speech is in
- 26:08Speaker 12: the balance, where you've got you've got counselors all going
- 26:12Speaker 12: off sick and apparently this is this is what happened
- 26:15Speaker 12: in this case. A lot of them actually couldn't cope.
- 26:19Speaker 12: And two years ago when they had a meeting in
- 26:22Speaker 12: twenty twenty three over this Lambeth Council Ltn, a lot
- 26:28Speaker 12: of them were in tiers. A lot of the councilors
- 26:31Speaker 12: were in tears, and the staff were offered well being leave.
- 26:34Speaker 12: We're seeing this they're really getting upset about being challenged. Well, boohoo,
- 26:39Speaker 12: you know this is what this is what we're finding.
- 26:42Speaker 12: So in the broader sense this is this really does
- 26:47Speaker 12: give us some kind of decent precedent to challenge all
- 26:50Speaker 12: of this, and Counselor Resina Chowdry, Deputy Leader of Lambeth Council,
- 26:56Speaker 12: said the Authority was considering the implications of the judgment,
- 26:59Speaker 12: but the LTN would remain in place for now and
- 27:02Speaker 12: this is again a kind of example of their hubrious
- 27:07Speaker 12: So maybe the Council will try and challenge it. I
- 27:09Speaker 12: don't know, but for now it's a definite victory and
- 27:13Speaker 12: hopefully the people's voices will be heard.
- 27:17Speaker 1: Do you think, Sandy, do you think the reason they
- 27:20Speaker 1: get so upset when they're challenged on this is that
- 27:23Speaker 1: they're so ideologically brought into their own narrative that they
- 27:27Speaker 1: can't They've lost the ability to represent anybody. They're only
- 27:32Speaker 1: there to represent the policy itself.
- 27:35Speaker 12: Absolutely, I mean I've seen it. You know, our town
- 27:38Speaker 12: cat Clark has gone off and he's not likely to
- 27:41Speaker 12: come back because he's being challenged about having actually, you know, lawfully,
- 27:48Speaker 12: we're looking into the lawful challenge against them for what
- 27:51Speaker 12: they've done, and they can't cope with it. They actually
- 27:53Speaker 12: have this hubrious that they believe that they are above
- 27:56Speaker 12: the law. That's it.
- 27:58Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, on.
- 27:59Speaker 1: That top, I'll just mention that the legal precedent for
- 28:02Speaker 1: this comes from I believe the eighteenth century.
- 28:05Speaker 5: It's Antique versus Carrington is the case law.
- 28:08Speaker 1: And what that law basically says is that us as
- 28:10Speaker 1: individuals have the right to do anything except what is
- 28:14Speaker 1: expressly denied tos by law, whereas corporate entities, governments, these
- 28:21Speaker 1: types of people have the right to do nothing except
- 28:23Speaker 1: what is permitted by law. Now, what became clear a
- 28:27Speaker 1: number of years ago was that councils were increasingly reversing
- 28:31Speaker 1: that position, and we're attempting to take upon themselves the
- 28:34Speaker 1: right to do anything that they chose. And this is
- 28:38Speaker 1: something that we've seen time and time again, and we
- 28:40Speaker 1: absolutely need to keep in mind. The legal precedent in
- 28:44Speaker 1: this country is only us as human beings, as individuals
- 28:48Speaker 1: that have the right to do what we like unless
- 28:50Speaker 1: it's prevented by some kind of restriction, legal restriction. Otherwise
- 28:55Speaker 1: they have the right to do nothing. And so you know,
- 28:59Speaker 1: I think that should be born in mine. Thank you
- 29:01Speaker 1: for that, Sandy. Let's move on. If you like what
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- 31:43Speaker 1: like to get two free tickets to Signce Beautiful. Now
- 31:47Speaker 1: let's move on to online safety of a kind because
- 31:51Speaker 1: Ofcom has released their latest edition of the Children Parents
- 31:56Speaker 1: Media Use and Attitudes Report, and I just wanted to
- 31:59Speaker 1: go through this a little bit. Media literacy, they say,
- 32:04Speaker 1: enables people to have the skills, knowledge and understanding they
- 32:07Speaker 1: need to make full use of the opportunities presented both
- 32:10Speaker 1: by traditional and the new communications services.
- 32:14Speaker 5: Is this making it oh yet, Charles.
- 32:16Speaker 1: Media literacy also helps people to manage content and communications
- 32:20Speaker 1: and protect themselves and their families from the potential risks
- 32:23Speaker 1: associated with using these services. So the question is what
- 32:27Speaker 1: are these potential risks and dangers? And just to sort
- 32:31Speaker 1: of highlight that some of the statistics from this first
- 32:34Speaker 1: of all, let's have a look at children's media use.
- 32:39Speaker 1: So what have we got here. There's been an increase
- 32:41Speaker 1: in three to five year olds using social media platforms
- 32:45Speaker 1: three to five year olds. Let's look at some of
- 32:47Speaker 1: the statistics. Nineteen percent of three to five year olds,
- 32:50Speaker 1: according to this report, have their own mobile phone, eighty
- 32:53Speaker 1: five percent use a device of some kind to go online.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Three to five year olds you're talking about here, Fifty
- 32:59Speaker 1: six percent use me apps. Ninety one percent of the
- 33:03Speaker 1: people that these are, of course, the people that are
- 33:05Speaker 1: using social media using the internet, ninety one percent use
- 33:09Speaker 1: video sharing platforms, thirty seven percent use social media, and
- 33:13Speaker 1: of those, sixty percent have their own profile. So sixty
- 33:16Speaker 1: percent of the thirty one percent of the three to
- 33:18Speaker 1: five year olds that are using the Internet have their
- 33:20Speaker 1: own social media plat profiles. The three main platforms for
- 33:26Speaker 1: three to five year olds are YouTube, whatsopp and snapchat.
- 33:30Speaker 1: Let's see what else they're saying here. Of the eight
- 33:32Speaker 1: and ten of three to seventeen year olds, so seventy
- 33:35Speaker 1: nine percent of three to seventeen year olds who have
- 33:37Speaker 1: their own profile on social media, messaging, VSP or live
- 33:41Speaker 1: streaming sites, sixteen percent include a photo of themselves, which
- 33:45Speaker 1: anyone can see. Let's go on. The majority of parents
- 33:49Speaker 1: do not think the benefits outweigh the risks of their
- 33:52Speaker 1: children being on social media, messaging and video sharing apps,
- 33:56Speaker 1: but they still give them a mobile phone. They still
- 33:58Speaker 1: give them a tablet. More than seven and ten seventy
- 34:02Speaker 1: two percent of parents are concerned that their child would
- 34:04Speaker 1: be unable to distinguish between real and fake online content,
- 34:08Speaker 1: but they still give them a phone. Let's see what
- 34:11Speaker 1: else we've got here. Viewing of broadcast TV continues to
- 34:15Speaker 1: decline among children age four to fifteen, so maybe that's
- 34:18Speaker 1: a good thing. But more children are watching live stream videos,
- 34:23Speaker 1: a growing trend over the past three years. And they
- 34:26Speaker 1: go on to say that the three most common online
- 34:29Speaker 1: safety topics taught in schools are how to recognize harmful content,
- 34:34Speaker 1: how to keep personal information safe, and being kind and
- 34:37Speaker 1: respective to respectful to others online. Well, I'm going to
- 34:40Speaker 1: suggest that whatever they're learning on those topics in school
- 34:45Speaker 1: is probably nonsense in all three cases. Now, by the
- 34:48Speaker 1: age of six to seven, thirty percent of children have
- 34:51Speaker 1: their own phones. By the age of eight to nine,
- 34:54Speaker 1: forty two percent have their own phones. There's little or
- 34:58Speaker 1: no difference between those those statistics, by the way, across
- 35:01Speaker 1: the demographic categories. In other words, education and job role
- 35:06Speaker 1: plays no part on this. And just to a couple
- 35:09Speaker 1: of graphics on this, let's just look at this one
- 35:11Speaker 1: first of all. So that's showing the proportion of children
- 35:16Speaker 1: that go online by age eighty five percent three to five,
- 35:19Speaker 1: up to one hundred percent by sixteen. And then if
- 35:22Speaker 1: we look at the top five communication apps and sites
- 35:25Speaker 1: used by age group, clearly YouTube is well ahead from
- 35:28Speaker 1: the age of three.
- 35:30Speaker 5: So what do we say about that.
- 35:32Speaker 1: I'm just going to mention a comment here that this
- 35:34Speaker 1: is unrelated but came out at roughly the same time.
- 35:37Speaker 1: This is from Rachel de Susan, the Children's Commissioner, saying
- 35:40Speaker 1: children have told me this harmful content often finds them
- 35:44Speaker 1: rather than them actively seeking it out. Girls and young
- 35:47Speaker 1: as young as nine have told my team about strangers
- 35:50Speaker 1: asking for their home address online, and in a room
- 35:53Speaker 1: of fifteen and sixteen year olds, three quarters had been
- 35:56Speaker 1: sent a video of someone being beheaded. Then she goes
- 35:59Speaker 1: on to say content like this is often promoted and
- 36:02Speaker 1: offered to children by complex recommendation algorithms designed to capture,
- 36:07Speaker 1: retain their attention. That's her typographical error, by the way,
- 36:10Speaker 1: designed for business purposes, not the interests of users. Well,
- 36:14Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're going to have a hard job, Rachel,
- 36:17Speaker 1: convincing me that any online service provider is providing through
- 36:21Speaker 1: an algorithm videos of beheadings for business purposes. This doesn't
- 36:26Speaker 1: make sense, So you are misrepresenting the situation. The situation
- 36:30Speaker 1: is pretty dire with respect to children and how young
- 36:34Speaker 1: they are and being given the access to this content.
- 36:37Speaker 1: But of course you will take advantage of that to
- 36:41Speaker 1: suggest that that results in the requirement for more regulation
- 36:45Speaker 1: of the Internet. We'll talk about more about this in
- 36:47Speaker 1: extra but three year olds, yes, what can we say, Vanessa.
- 36:53Speaker 1: Let's come back to you then. And well, Yemen, yep.
- 36:59Speaker 8: So, to have a look at an article in the
- 37:01Speaker 8: New York Times which basically confirms everything that I reported
- 37:06Speaker 8: last week on UK column News reference Trump's sudden ceasefire
- 37:13Speaker 8: with the Yemeny. So this is a New York Times
- 37:16Speaker 8: article from yesterday. Why did Trump suddenly backpedal on the
- 37:21Speaker 8: war against and so Rula in Yemen? So from the
- 37:25Speaker 8: article itself in the first thirty days and Serrula, they actually,
- 37:30Speaker 8: of course said the hauties, but i've amended that shot
- 37:33Speaker 8: down seven American MQ nine Jernes thirty million each, hampering
- 37:39Speaker 8: Central Commands ability to track and strike the group. Several
- 37:43Speaker 8: US F sixteens and an F thirty five fighter jet
- 37:47Speaker 8: were nearly struck by the Yemeny air defense, making real
- 37:51Speaker 8: the possibility of American casualties. And of course we shouldn't
- 37:56Speaker 8: forget the drama of the leaked WhatsApp coversation, which apparently,
- 38:01Speaker 8: according to the article, put the lives of US military
- 38:06Speaker 8: and particularly pilots at risk. And then of course there
- 38:10Speaker 8: was a huge US deployment to effectively support Israel both
- 38:16Speaker 8: sustaining the genocide of Palestinians and preventing the prevention of
- 38:21Speaker 8: the genocide by the Yemen's two aircraft carriers. Additional B
- 38:26Speaker 8: two bombers, which of course are nuclear capable, and fighter jets,
- 38:29Speaker 8: as well as Patriot and Thud air defense were sent
- 38:33Speaker 8: to the Middle East. But in fact the article admits
- 38:36Speaker 8: that there was very little degradation of the Yemeny capability
- 38:41Speaker 8: of hitting both vessels in particular, but also continuing their
- 38:46Speaker 8: air strikes or the missile strikes against the occupied territories
- 38:51Speaker 8: and basically enabling not only the blockade of Israeli shipping,
- 38:55Speaker 8: but also an effective no fly zone in the Bengurian
- 39:02Speaker 8: airport because international airlines are still canceling flights into Benngurian
- 39:07Speaker 8: after the Yemen he's attacked it again since the USC Spire,
- 39:12Speaker 8: which didn't incorporate Israel. The Pentagon is concerned again. This
- 39:17Speaker 8: is something that we mentioned last week, and if we
- 39:22Speaker 8: can just have that up on the screen. So many
- 39:24Speaker 8: precision munitions were being used, especially advanced long range ones
- 39:29Speaker 8: that some Pentagon contingency planners were growing increasingly concerned about
- 39:34Speaker 8: overall stocks and the implications if the US might have
- 39:38Speaker 8: to ward off an attempted invasion of Taiwan by China.
- 39:42Speaker 8: So exactly as we said, pretty much has been confirmed
- 39:47Speaker 8: by the New York Times is that Trump had no
- 39:50Speaker 8: choice but to withdraw from any kind of aggression against
- 39:55Speaker 8: Yemen in order to conserve stocks and prevent the loss
- 40:00Speaker 8: of life and loss of equipment, which has reached over
- 40:02Speaker 8: one billion dollars.
- 40:05Speaker 5: Yes, and saying thank you for Essa. That was.
- 40:09Speaker 1: You heard it here first, of course. But anyway, Charles,
- 40:12Speaker 1: let's come back to the UK and well, we haven't
- 40:16Speaker 1: had any rin for quite some time.
- 40:18Speaker 5: We haven't.
- 40:18Speaker 2: No, and not just the government of the BBC is
- 40:21Speaker 2: wanting to make much of this. The strength of the
- 40:24Speaker 2: climate change narrative for its purveyors is such that almost
- 40:31Speaker 2: any kind of weather, and obviously we're talking mostly about
- 40:34Speaker 2: dry weather, but almost any kind of weather can be
- 40:37Speaker 2: attributed to it. Twenty twenty five this year, in that regard,
- 40:40Speaker 2: has been a gift for the fearmongers. So hot off
- 40:43Speaker 2: the back of flood warnings, here is the BBC declaring
- 40:45Speaker 2: a record drought, something which the government has been reporting
- 40:49Speaker 2: in a slightly less melodramatic manner, and certainly is the
- 40:53Speaker 2: case that March was a very dry month. April two
- 40:56Speaker 2: has been drier than usual, so they say, which has
- 41:00Speaker 2: left several reservoirs described as exceptionally low. So in positing
- 41:05Speaker 2: that virtually everything we do with water is wrong, that
- 41:10Speaker 2: means that the door is open force solutions, and as usual,
- 41:13Speaker 2: the World Economic Forum is on hand with a few recommendations.
- 41:17Speaker 2: Most of these, of course, concerned public private partnerships which
- 41:20Speaker 2: are of no benefit to the end user, or the
- 41:23Speaker 2: assertion that artificial intelligence is the answer to everything. Now,
- 41:28Speaker 2: all of this points to investment at the corporate level,
- 41:31Speaker 2: which means the expectation of a return. The Environment Agency
- 41:37Speaker 2: points to the further commoditization of water, and not just
- 41:41Speaker 2: that which is used for washing and drinking, but water
- 41:45Speaker 2: which constitutes what is called blue space. Now, essentially this
- 41:49Speaker 2: means putting a value on large bodies of water, which
- 41:52Speaker 2: is precisely why increasing increasing initiatives now focus on the
- 41:57Speaker 2: use of water for in particular health and well being
- 42:01Speaker 2: reasons shown here again by the BBC. This cold water
- 42:05Speaker 2: swimming program is run out of Derreford Hospital in Plymouth
- 42:08Speaker 2: and it's exactly a case in point. Just last week,
- 42:12Speaker 2: the National Audit Office released a report about the state
- 42:18Speaker 2: of managed water in the UK and what they think
- 42:21Speaker 2: needs to be done about it. Now this is one
- 42:23Speaker 2: of their auditors setting it out.
- 42:26Speaker 13: The scale of the challenge facing water regulators is huge.
- 42:30Speaker 13: The shortfall of nearly five billion liters of water per
- 42:33Speaker 13: day is expected by twenty fifty and government has set
- 42:37Speaker 13: the sector statutory targets to reduce its environmental impact. At
- 42:42Speaker 13: the same time, consumer trust has fallen to its lowest
- 42:46Speaker 13: level since twenty eleven. To address these challenges, the water
- 42:50Speaker 13: sector needs to attract an unprecedented amount of investment. There
- 42:55Speaker 13: are three regulators for the sector off WHAT, the Environment
- 42:59Speaker 13: Agency and the Drinking Water Inspectorate. They all have different
- 43:03Speaker 13: responsibilities which sometimes overlap, but no one has responsibility to
- 43:08Speaker 13: inspect wastewater assets.
- 43:11Speaker 3: Off WHAT.
- 43:12Speaker 13: The water sector's economic regulator expects spending on infrastructure improvements
- 43:17Speaker 13: to rise to forty seven billion pounds in the next
- 43:21Speaker 13: five years, as part of at least two hundred and
- 43:24Speaker 13: ninety billion pounds of enhancements needed to meet government's targets
- 43:29Speaker 13: over the next twenty five years. At the current rate,
- 43:32Speaker 13: it would take seven hundred years to replace the entire
- 43:36Speaker 13: existing water main network. Plans are also currently in development
- 43:41Speaker 13: for thirty large water supply projects, including nine reservoirs, which
- 43:46Speaker 13: off WHAT estimate will cost an extra fifty two billion
- 43:50Speaker 13: pounds to build. The need for investment coincides with a
- 43:54Speaker 13: period of weakening financial performance and reduced investor confidence in
- 43:58Speaker 13: the water sector. Depro must understand both the cost and
- 44:02Speaker 13: deliverability of its plans and the impact these plans will
- 44:06Speaker 13: have on customers bills.
- 44:11Speaker 2: Indeed, the impact on customers bills, so the takeaway message
- 44:14Speaker 2: there is unambiguous. Despite the failings of all those directly
- 44:19Speaker 2: associated sorry just sorr, I'm sorry, directly responsible. The burden
- 44:26Speaker 2: of the cost will fall upon those indirectly affected i e.
- 44:29Speaker 13: You.
- 44:29Speaker 2: Now, this is at least consistent with the message from
- 44:33Speaker 2: the Environment Agency, and this is what the former chair
- 44:36Speaker 2: Alan Lovell said back in twenty twenty three. He made
- 44:40Speaker 2: it clear that to grip the existential risk of supply
- 44:45Speaker 2: and demand, we will need to ask the public to
- 44:48Speaker 2: save water and pay more for it. Now, for this government,
- 44:52Speaker 2: one might think this presented an opportunity to go some
- 44:56Speaker 2: way to sorting things out with their much form planning
- 45:00Speaker 2: an infrastructure bill, but in fact there's absolutely in no
- 45:03Speaker 2: regard given to the improvement of the water infrastructure or
- 45:07Speaker 2: any mention of it being a new consideration sorry of
- 45:10Speaker 2: consideration in new housing developments. And now it should not
- 45:14Speaker 2: be forgotten though, that the bill does give enormous powers
- 45:16Speaker 2: of compulsory purchase of land, and that in the case
- 45:19Speaker 2: of agricultural land, any development premium is removed and the
- 45:23Speaker 2: landowner may only receive the base agricultural price for the purchase.
- 45:29Speaker 2: One very obvious mitigation exercise would be rainwater harvesting, and
- 45:34Speaker 2: it's most indicative to note that the Environment Agency actually
- 45:37Speaker 2: has a regulatory position on this, which clarifies, sorry, which
- 45:43Speaker 2: clarifies when you can use harvested rainwater without a water
- 45:48Speaker 2: abstraction license. Given that many colonial administrations forbade the harvesting
- 45:54Speaker 2: of rainwater in an apparent attempt to stop mosquito's breeding,
- 45:57Speaker 2: it's not too much of a stretch to see that
- 45:59Speaker 2: this relation might change. However, in terms of practical application,
- 46:05Speaker 2: it's worth taking a quick look at rainwater harvesting. A
- 46:08Speaker 2: UK website which puts average water consumption per head per
- 46:12Speaker 2: year at around fifty five thousand liters, and a house
- 46:15Speaker 2: with a roof space of just fifty square meters will
- 46:19Speaker 2: collect on average forty thousand liters in the UK. But
- 46:22Speaker 2: you won't find the government, the Environment Agency, or the
- 46:24Speaker 2: National Audit Office, or indeed the World Economic Forum, and
- 46:28Speaker 2: certainly not any of the water companies suggesting that you
- 46:31Speaker 2: think about that, and announced just late last month the
- 46:35Speaker 2: Government suggesting that water bosses might face up to two
- 46:39Speaker 2: years in prison. This, when one looks into the detail,
- 46:41Speaker 2: actually really just concerns non compliance with an investigation, so
- 46:46Speaker 2: unlikely to have much of an effect. But I would
- 46:49Speaker 2: draw your attention to the Police Crime Centercing Courts Act
- 46:53Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two and the offense under section seventy
- 46:56Speaker 2: eight of intentionally or recklessly causing a public nuisance, and
- 47:00Speaker 2: the offense is committed by somebody who does an act
- 47:02Speaker 2: or omits to do an act that they are required
- 47:04Speaker 2: to do by an enactment or a rule of law. Now,
- 47:08Speaker 2: of course, this what this does do, is to take
- 47:12Speaker 2: away the offense, the common law offense of causing public nuisance.
- 47:16Speaker 2: And it's just yet another sort of nail in the
- 47:20Speaker 2: coffin of the common law. So that is though to
- 47:23Speaker 2: be considered with regard to the water companies and indeed
- 47:27Speaker 2: holding them to accounts. And of course we've heard a
- 47:29Speaker 2: story from Sandy just now about the merits of the
- 47:32Speaker 2: challenge and this piece of legislation could be used as
- 47:36Speaker 2: such a tool.
- 47:38Speaker 1: Thank you, Charles. Okay, Sandy, let's come back to you then.
- 47:42Speaker 1: And we've been talking about the dimming of the sun
- 47:46Speaker 1: in recent news programs.
- 47:47Speaker 12: What's the litist well, I mean, bearing in mind obviously
- 47:52Speaker 12: I know we've spoken about it before. You know, sixty
- 47:54Speaker 12: I think it's fifty six point eight million has been
- 47:57Speaker 12: allocated by the government who fund experiment, sayming at dimming
- 48:00Speaker 12: the sun as if they weren't doing it before anyway,
- 48:04Speaker 12: And you know on they brought this in on April
- 48:07Speaker 12: the twenty fifth, which involves the use of atmospheric aerosol
- 48:12Speaker 12: technology technology known as SATAN stratospheric aerosol transport and nucleation.
- 48:18Speaker 12: I mean, it sounds extraordinary, doesn't it. But anyway, and
- 48:22Speaker 12: how silly is that when you've got when you've got
- 48:26Speaker 12: ed Miller band led by net zero. You know, he's
- 48:32Speaker 12: in charge of all the net zero dmiliband and he's
- 48:35Speaker 12: come under scrutiny for his energy policies, particularly the apparent
- 48:38Speaker 12: contradictions between investing billions in solar panel installations across the
- 48:43Speaker 12: country and allocating fifty plus million to protect you know,
- 48:48Speaker 12: to aimed at you know, when we've put all that
- 48:50Speaker 12: towards it, you know, blocking the sun. I mean, it
- 48:52Speaker 12: just doesn't make sense. So armed with that information, we
- 48:56Speaker 12: sent a letter to our local MP two C watch.
- 49:00Speaker 12: She would think about it, Sarah Dikar lib Dem and
- 49:03Speaker 12: I know it's almost pointless asking them, but she came
- 49:07Speaker 12: up with quite a long, quite a long answer, and
- 49:12Speaker 12: part of it is here on the screen. The response.
- 49:15Speaker 12: You know, this is a response we receive. Thank you
- 49:17Speaker 12: for contacting us about the government supporting this endeavor to
- 49:20Speaker 12: explore the use of geoengineering, including using limited funds from
- 49:24Speaker 12: the taxpayer. It's understandable that there are concerns about such
- 49:28Speaker 12: technologies and ventures into areas of alternate actions to reduce
- 49:34Speaker 12: temperatures and stabilize the global challenges in the climate. However,
- 49:38Speaker 12: climate change is an essential threat, an existential threat, soaring
- 49:42Speaker 12: temperatures leading to wildfires, floods, droughts, rising sea levels or
- 49:47Speaker 12: affecting millions of people directly and billions more through falling
- 49:51Speaker 12: food production. This is quite interesting, the falling food production. Well,
- 49:55Speaker 12: why because we're covering our land in solar panels and
- 50:00Speaker 12: and wind farms as well as housing which they are allowing.
- 50:04Speaker 12: I mean, none of it makes sense. And she's saying
- 50:07Speaker 12: urgent actually is needed in the UK and around the
- 50:09Speaker 12: world to achieve net zero and avert catastrophe they are
- 50:13Speaker 12: causing it. We only have to look at the recent
- 50:17Speaker 12: and more regular heavy rainfall causing repeated flooding. You know,
- 50:21Speaker 12: we've already addressed that because they're breaking down the infrastructure
- 50:25Speaker 12: for draining the Somerset levels, so that's rubbish. Anyway, it
- 50:29Speaker 12: goes on and on and on, and she talks about,
- 50:33Speaker 12: you know, sort of these data centers and that they're
- 50:37Speaker 12: trying to create create ways of upping the renewables. But
- 50:43Speaker 12: what they don't understand is that food security is being
- 50:46Speaker 12: threatened here. And I just want to just remind everyone
- 50:51Speaker 12: about the sixteen critical infrastructure sectors that must be protected.
- 50:58Speaker 12: And this is what the Government of public themselves. There's
- 51:01Speaker 12: sixteen of them and you've got I can't sort of
- 51:05Speaker 12: read some of them on that it's not very good
- 51:07Speaker 12: and visual, but anyway, it's the thirteenth one is food
- 51:13Speaker 12: and agriculture, so it is one of the thirteenth one
- 51:16Speaker 12: is food and agriculture, and it's these are the governments
- 51:20Speaker 12: own protected infrastructures. And yet all of this is not
- 51:25Speaker 12: protecting our food and we have and I'm going to
- 51:29Speaker 12: follow this up with Sarah Dyke. She's going to get
- 51:31Speaker 12: quite a lengthy letter from me explaining that food security
- 51:35Speaker 12: is not being taken into consideration at all. These people
- 51:39Speaker 12: are just plain bonkers.
- 51:42Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 51:42Speaker 1: The only thing I would challenge you on there, Sandy,
- 51:44Speaker 1: is is to suggest that this is in any way unintentional,
- 51:49Speaker 1: and you know, we'll talk a lot more about this
- 51:51Speaker 1: and extra. I'm quite sure it's not by accident that
- 51:55Speaker 1: we're busy shutting down in our farming industry in this
- 51:57Speaker 1: country while apparently making deals with other countries to import
- 52:01Speaker 1: more and more food from from other countries. So you know,
- 52:05Speaker 1: we we will talk more about this an extra, So
- 52:07Speaker 1: thank you very much for that. Back to Vanessa then,
- 52:10Speaker 1: and Vanessa, you were talking earlier about the breaking up
- 52:15Speaker 1: of Syria.
- 52:16Speaker 5: So what's the let us do on Syria?
- 52:19Speaker 8: Yeah, I just wanted to do a quick catch up,
- 52:21Speaker 8: but I think the slights have been misaligned. So I
- 52:24Speaker 8: don't know if we can go forward to the French
- 52:27Speaker 8: port deal and go past the nice pictures of President
- 52:31Speaker 8: Trump and old Jilanney, and then I can sort of
- 52:37Speaker 8: get started on what's actually happening in Syria at the moment.
- 52:42Speaker 5: Sorry, don't have the.
- 52:47Speaker 8: Okay, all right, that's a shame we don't even have
- 52:52Speaker 8: them at.
- 52:54Speaker 5: Uh, you keep talking about.
- 52:59Speaker 8: Okay, So basically, I just wanted to do a catch
- 53:01Speaker 8: up on Syria and the carver of Syrian territory, which
- 53:07Speaker 8: is ongoing. First of all, in recent news, the French
- 53:12Speaker 8: have renewed or extended their deal for the control of
- 53:17Speaker 8: Latakia Port on the coast, which of course is very
- 53:19Speaker 8: close to the Russian military base in Hamomeme and Tartus.
- 53:25Speaker 8: The French shipping giants CMA GGM has extended its contract
- 53:30Speaker 8: to a further thirty years to develop and run the
- 53:33Speaker 8: port of Latakia, with a view to investing two hundred
- 53:37Speaker 8: and thirty million euros into the port, which of course
- 53:42Speaker 8: gives France control to some degree in that area again
- 53:47Speaker 8: which formerly was an Allo White protectorate under the French mandate,
- 53:54Speaker 8: and to some degree brings it into competition with Russia,
- 53:57Speaker 8: that is also consolidating its military press in the same area.
- 54:02Speaker 8: And then basically we've recently had talks between Turkey and
- 54:06Speaker 8: Israel in Azerbaijan to ease the tensions over Syria, because
- 54:11Speaker 8: we've talked about on UK Column the fact that Israel
- 54:14Speaker 8: has been preventing any serious expansionism from Erdowan into the
- 54:20Speaker 8: depths of Syria by bombing potential military bases and air
- 54:24Speaker 8: defense spaces that would be under the control of the
- 54:27Speaker 8: Turkish state. And then recently also the PKK has declared
- 54:35Speaker 8: its dissolution and an end to the armed struggle, which
- 54:39Speaker 8: in my opinion is very much about giving legitimacy to
- 54:43Speaker 8: the Kurdish factions, separatists under the control of the US
- 54:48Speaker 8: and also of course supported by Israel. And I just
- 54:53Speaker 8: wanted to have a look at this map and then
- 54:57Speaker 8: go through everything I've just said and give idea of
- 55:00Speaker 8: how Syria is heading towards partitioning and if we can
- 55:05Speaker 8: just keep them up on for a few seconds. So
- 55:09Speaker 8: on the coast, although that circle should be a little
- 55:12Speaker 8: bit closer to the Latakia area, you will have France
- 55:17Speaker 8: and Russia potentially forming some form of protectorate, driving out
- 55:23Speaker 8: the al Qaeda and affiliated forces and potentially bringing it
- 55:29Speaker 8: under the control of Russia, with France there as a
- 55:32Speaker 8: sort of buffer against Russian expansionism, I would speculate. In
- 55:37Speaker 8: the south, of course, you have Israeli expansion creating what
- 55:42Speaker 8: it calls the security perimeter. You have the DRUS forming
- 55:47Speaker 8: a separatist movement. I'm very much simplifying things because they
- 55:51Speaker 8: are a little bit more complicated than this. But Asraels
- 55:55Speaker 8: eyeing up the Drew's factions as a means to occupying
- 56:00Speaker 8: further to the east in the south, and then that
- 56:03Speaker 8: would give it access to what it is called the
- 56:06Speaker 8: David Corridor, which is the Blue Arrow, which would take
- 56:09Speaker 8: it up the eastern flank of Syria, the border with
- 56:12Speaker 8: Jordan and Iraq, and give them entry into Iraq and
- 56:16Speaker 8: towards the Euphrates. In the northeast, the Kurds would be
- 56:20Speaker 8: given some kind of autonomous region or federal system under
- 56:27Speaker 8: the auspices of the US Turkish territory. As you can
- 56:31Speaker 8: see that they've been allowed to keep is in the
- 56:34Speaker 8: blue sections. In the north they have advanced very slightly.
- 56:37Speaker 8: But as I said, Israel as preventing any further expansionism
- 56:42Speaker 8: from Urduwan and with al Qaeda or Jolani as long
- 56:47Speaker 8: as he lasts, of course, in the Green area, which
- 56:50Speaker 8: end up being a relatively centralized area surrounded by competing
- 56:56Speaker 8: regional powers who all have in their interest to Iran
- 57:01Speaker 8: out of the region. So that's where we're heading. It
- 57:03Speaker 8: doesn't mean that that is actually going to be achieved,
- 57:06Speaker 8: because there are other variables involved, of course, including the
- 57:11Speaker 8: resistance and Syrian political movements that are now coming forward.
- 57:19Speaker 1: You say, for as long as Jelani lasts, I mean,
- 57:22Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on churches Very briefly, if Trump
- 57:26Speaker 1: is meeting Jilani today, does that give him any kind
- 57:29Speaker 1: of extra underpinning.
- 57:33Speaker 8: Yeah, it does. I mean it remains to be seen
- 57:35Speaker 8: what happens with the sanctions, whether they do actually enable
- 57:39Speaker 8: him to flourish as a state. There is some degree
- 57:43Speaker 8: of skepticism over that, and of course he's under pressure
- 57:46Speaker 8: internally from other armed factions who don't consider him to
- 57:51Speaker 8: be extremist enough. So it remains to be seen whether
- 57:54Speaker 8: he does stay in place for the time being or
- 57:58Speaker 8: he eventually is pushed out.
- 58:00Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you for that, Vanessa.
- 58:02Speaker 1: Okay, let's just finish off with this piece of great
- 58:06Speaker 1: news because the UK government has implemented a cutting edge
- 58:11Speaker 1: AI tool. So the UK regime is announced consult which
- 58:15Speaker 1: is part of a suite a tools which they call Humphrey.
- 58:19Speaker 1: Humphrey is a swee of AI tools which allows civil
- 58:23Speaker 1: servants to they This is according to the government speed
- 58:25Speaker 1: up analysis of what the public and experts tell them
- 58:30Speaker 1: during consultations, and the one that they tested this on
- 58:33Speaker 1: was a consultation for the Scottish government. They say that
- 58:37Speaker 1: nearly identical results were find by AI. This after an
- 58:42Speaker 1: expert review which ranked themes that were important for policymakers
- 58:47Speaker 1: to take on board. This is their words. While currently
- 58:50Speaker 1: in trial with war development taking place, AI will analyze
- 58:53Speaker 1: other consultations responses in a bid to save officials from
- 58:58Speaker 1: seventy five thousands of manual analysis every year, which costs
- 59:03Speaker 1: twenty million pounds in staffing costs. So they're going to
- 59:05Speaker 1: make people unemployed, basically is what they be saying. And
- 59:09Speaker 1: this is going to help create a quote more agile,
- 59:12Speaker 1: effective state refocused on delivering the plan for change.
- 59:15Speaker 5: Does this make you feel good?
- 59:17Speaker 13: Oh?
- 59:17Speaker 5: Yeah, not yet?
- 59:18Speaker 1: Okay, well it gets better because well let's bring the
- 59:23Speaker 1: Secretary Peter Kyle on screen and he's saying, no one
- 59:28Speaker 1: should be wasting time on something AI can do quicker
- 59:31Speaker 1: and better, let alone wasting millions of taxpayers pounds and
- 59:34Speaker 1: outsourcing such work to contractors. After demonstrating such promising results,
- 59:40Speaker 1: Humphrey will help us cut the costs of governing and
- 59:43Speaker 1: make it easier to collect and consprehensively review what experts
- 59:46Speaker 1: in the public are telling us on a range of
- 59:48Speaker 1: crucial issues. And they're saying and he's saying that the
- 59:52Speaker 1: Scottish government is taken the first step and very soon
- 59:55Speaker 1: I'll be using consult within Humphrey in my own department,
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: and others in Whitehall will be using a too, speeding
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: up our work to deliver the plan for change. I
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: can't imagine what could possibly go wrong with that.
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: Well, I think given time, you might come up with
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: one or two things. But I would say that the
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: critical bit there, one of them, is for it to
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: be described as doing something that's almost right. And of
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: course if it's almost right, then it's wrong, and that's
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: the bit they never want to talk about indeed.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: Okay, well we're going to leave you with that thought
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: for today. I'm going to say thank you very much
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: to Vanessa and Sandy for joining us. If thank you
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: all for joining us. We'll be back in a few
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- 1:00:48Speaker 1: enjoyed jam tonight and Brian's interview tomorrow, and we'll see
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: you on Friday for another news program.
- 1:00:54Speaker 5: Bye bye
- 1:01:00Speaker 10: Three