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UK Column News Podcast 4th September 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, the fourth of September twenty twenty four,
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just after one o'clock in the afternoon. Welcome to UK
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column News. I'm your host Charles Mallett. I have with
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me in the studio Mike Robinson. Good afternoon, Mike, afternoon,
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and we're joined by Vanessa Biley via video link from Damascus.
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We're going to start the program with Vanessa, who's going
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to tell us about situation involving Sarah Wilkinson, the British
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journalist recently arrested for online posts. So Vanessa over to you.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Charles, and good afternoon to every release.
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Speaker 3: So we're going to first of all, look at the
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increasing totalitarianism from the UK state, particularly under the government
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of Krostana, who, as Jonathan Cook writes for Consultium News,
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is now terrorizing Palace Din supporters and those that question
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the UK's complicity with Israel's genocide in Gaza. So what
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I'm going to look at is an interview that Sarah Wilkinson.
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I'm an activist and journalist on Palestine, particularly someone that
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doesn't necessarily put out political views but is literally reporting
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on the hourly slaughter of Palestinians inside Gaza itself. She
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did a recent interview detailing her arrest under Section twelve
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of the counter Terrorism Act in the UK, where she
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describes twelve officers coming into her house, not all of
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them are anti terrorist squads, some of them wearing balaclavast
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before seven thirty in the morning. So I'm going to
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just play a few collects from an interview she did
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with Brisbane Flintoff. And this is the first clipt.
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Speaker 4: I've gone to find them and they're not there. I mean,
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especially the money. But the passport is a difficult one
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because I am now required to hand in my passport
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in seven days time. But they've taken my passport and
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they've not included it in the list. So in a way,
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it's entrapment. When I go to hand in my passport
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and I can't, then I'm in breach of bail and
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they'll arrest me because they'll say that I've hidden my
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passport or but actually they've taken it, but they've denied
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that they've taken it. So now how do I hand
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in a passport that's been taken but not listed that
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I'm completely trapped and there's nothing I can do, and
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you know, not being allowed to travel, and yet I
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have to sign in as four bus journeys which I
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can't reach the place I have to sign into in
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a day, so I would be stranded. And when I said, well,
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I can't get home if I sign in on this
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particular day there isn't a bus to get me back,
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he said, we'll bring a tent. Well, I'm sixty one.
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He's asking me now into November. This will go through
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winter because I can't get home, I have to take
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a tent.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I do recommend that people watch the full video,
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which of course will be in the show notes. It's
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quite horrifying. Sarah then goes on to describe some of
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the other acts committed of destruction really and looting committed.
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Speaker 2: By the police officers. So if we just play the
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second clip.
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Speaker 4: But they also took about two hundred pounds worth of
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cash out of my wallet, and then they scattered my
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mother's ashes all over the attic. I had horrendous day
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yesterday literally scrape my mother's ashes out of old picture frames.
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Speaker 2: They were everywhere.
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Speaker 4: I've never had to do anything so horrendous as that before.
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And the urn obviously is meant to be three quarters full.
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The urn is now half full. So my mother's ashes
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are still scattered in places that I can't retrieve them.
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In parts of the attic, I just can't. I just
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can't retrieve them.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is a complete campaign of terrorism, as
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Sarah describes it herself, and she also describes not only
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the looting effectively the theft of money and other items
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and then not listing them before the police left her house,
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but also here she talks about how the police were dressed.
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But she does also say at a later point in
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the video that it was very similar to her to
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a shin bet operation or a Muscat operation in the
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way that the police were both treating her and questioning her,
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particularly about Palestinians, that she said they deliberately appeared to
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dehumanize and to be very racist towards. So let's just
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watch the final clip.
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Speaker 4: I live in a very small rural area. I'm not
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allowed to travel. That's another thing. No travel documents, no
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training tickets, no bus tickets, no nothing that enables travel.
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So I live in a remote place with one shop.
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I can't even do online shopping, or I can't even
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get food that my village doesn't sell, so I'm now
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basically this is almost a house arrest without it being
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a house arrest. So yeah, the conditions of the looting,
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I'm going to call it looting because they have stolen
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stuff and not list it, so I can never claim
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it back. The money has just been pocketed by one
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of them. My son was treated badly. He was sort
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of thrown out of the house while they did this,
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and then I was held without any medication, no food
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because without my meds I can't eat. So therefore I
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was if I was going to be there for a week,
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which is very possible, I couldn't eat, and I thought, well,
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if I'm here for seven days, I'm not going to
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survive this. So yeah, it's like terrorism against civilians and
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the balaclavas, you know, hiding their identity. I think that
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felt like this was a terrorist raid. But not only that.
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When I was in the police fan, they didn't drive
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to the police station. They went a different way. And
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there was a point during this journey I thought, they're
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not police. I've actually been acted here, I've been kidnapped.
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They aren't police, they're not driving.
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Speaker 3: Quite extraordinary, and in another section she describes the fact
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that her chrones she has chromeed disease.
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Speaker 2: Her medical card was hidden inside the.
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Speaker 3: Mattress, and they also bugged the house. They discovered afterwards
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because there was plaster missing.
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Speaker 2: And potte on the wall.
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Speaker 3: They then removed the bugs. So quite an extraordinary experience
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and not something that any of us, of course would
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want to go through, and that is part of the
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freezing effect on descent against the government. At the same time,
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of course, the Palestine Action co founder faces charges under
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the Terrorism Act under.
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Speaker 2: Section twelve also, as does of course Richard Medhurst. We've
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talked about previously.
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Speaker 3: And if we just look at this, there are a
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number of Palestine Action that of course have been carrying
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out direct action against the arms companies like Albert that
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have been supplying weapons to Israel to enable the genocide.
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And there were a number of the Palestine Action activists
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arrested also, so you know, we appear to be really
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going into what is effectively a crackdown on dissent against
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government policy.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, yes, I just wanted to quickly play this.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, I know I'm a little bit over time now,
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but I think this video brings an important message.
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Speaker 5: Let US be clear.
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Speaker 6: Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, the US is complicit
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in genocide. These are not political statements. There are statements
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that are made from knowledge and experience. But even if
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there were legitimate doubts about Israel's genocide, there is no
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doubt that Israel is committing atrocity crimes of the most
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barbaric kind. Israel must be stopped.
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Speaker 5: Israel must be stopped now.
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Speaker 6: We are disgusted by Western leaders, especially in the US,
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Germany and the UK. They have demonstrated not only that
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they don't care one bit about genocide prevention and human rights,
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but also that they are willing to allow an ally
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to commit atrocity crimes while they offer material and diplomatic support.
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It is reprehensible and the individuals involved in this gas
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lighting campaign should be deeply ashamed. They should also be
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put on trial. Humanity has a choice. Either we decide
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that our children can all be killed whenever a superior
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force alleges that terrorists are among us, or we decide that,
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under no circumstances will we allow these superior forces untilay
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waste to our world any longer. We must each choose
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and act accordingly. The watershed moment is.
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Speaker 3: Now I think that's a very strong message.
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Speaker 5: Well and there, thank you very much, Vanessa.
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Speaker 1: Obviously a terrible ordeal for Sarah Wilkinson to go through,
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and the wider point being how vulnerable people in similar
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positions now are. And what I'm going to do now
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is just provide a bit of context to the effectively
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the sort of police procedure and the background to it. So,
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as Vanessa says, the arrest was made under section twelve
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of the Terrorism Act two thousand and that support of
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a prescribed organization. So the person commits the offense if
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they invite support for a prescribed organization, and that is
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not restricted to money. Obviously a definition that is open
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to quite considerable interpretation. There was an amendment made in
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twenty nineteen with the counter Terrorism and Border Security Act,
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and that is written up here, which is that you
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also commit an offense if you express an opinion or
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belief that is supportive of the prescribed organization, and in
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doing so, whether you're reckless as to whether a person
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to whom the expression is directed will be encouraged to
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support a prescribed organization. Now we really are into the
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area of thought speech here. Sorry, thought crime here, because
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it looks very much like if you're in any way
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criticizing the government narrative or the actions of the Israeli state,
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that is putting you in a de facto position of
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supporting Hamas as a prescribed organization. That's the way that
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this has been inverted, which of course is completely beside
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the specific point of having prescribed organizations. Now the Home
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Office guidance has been changed this year. You might remember
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a report on the rather ludicrous prescription of a completely
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ill defined organization called terror Gram. But the point is
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that in writing prescribed organizations you are able to capture
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people with a very wide net. So what are such things? Well,
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the Home Secretary may prescribe if they believe that the
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organization is concerned in terrorism, and critically that it is
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proportionate to do so. So what determines whether or not
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prescription is proportionate. Well, there are a number of criteria
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that may be satisfied, not a suggestion that they all
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need to be, but it is worth pointing out with
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regard to Hamas, particularly that it says the specific threat
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that it poses to the UK, while at the moment
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that's not defined or at least not substantiated, the specific
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threat that it poses to British nationals overseas, the extent
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of the organization's presence in the UK, and the need
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to support other members of the international community, well which
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other members, I think is a question that must be
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asked at that point. Also, the other thing that I've
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mentioned many times before is that her mass was only
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prescribed by the Home Secretary in this country in November
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twenty twenty one. So in effect, what Sarah Wilkinson has
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been put through would not have been possible had this
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happened three years ago. I think that's a point worth
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bearing in mind. Now we'll look at the use of
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effectively anti terror powers, and these are from the statistics
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produced just last week, within which they state that there
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were two hundred and twelve arrests for terrorists related activity.
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This is only finishing thirty first of March this year.
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It'd be very interesting to see by what factor that's
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gone up in the succeeding time. That's an overall rise
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of eight percent, but I think the significant here is
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that sixty eight percent, in other words, only thirty two
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percent resulted in a charge. Of course, I don't go
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on to say how many of those charges resulted in
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a conviction or indeed how many actually got to court. Now,
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the other point to draw out here, which again we've
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talked about not before, is concerning magistrates. The warrant for
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the entry to the property and the seizure of all
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of Sarah Wilkinson's devices was granted by a magistrate. How
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do you become a magistrate? Well, you do not need
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formal qualifications or legal training to become a magistrate. You'll
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get full training for the role and a legal advisor
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in court will help you with questions about the law. Okay,
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so how full is that training? In your first year
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training to be a magistrate will take three to five days.
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I mean, where the situation not so died, this would
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almost be laughable, But sadly, this is the system which
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is very very intentionally put in place in order that
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it may be subverted, in order that this outcome may
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specifically be engineered by police putting pressure on a magistrate
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in order to obtain such a warrant. They will roll
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over due to insufficient training, insufficient understanding of the situation,
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and a complete inability to look at things in a
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reasonable proportional and necessary manner. The other thing to look at,
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of course, is the bail. Now there are three reasons
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for granting precharge bail by police, and there is no
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doubt at all that the bail conditions imposed upon Sarah
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Wilkinson are oppressive in the extreme. This seems to be
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the clause which best fits the situation now, in that
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it's no longer necessary to detain her in order to
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secure or preserve evidence, because either that has been done
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by speaking to her or from gathering the objects of
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the search which was conducted in such a vindictive manner
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in her house. But they're not in a position to charge,
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so the suspect must be released, and they have absolutely
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done so with malice at the front of their minds,
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stating that further investigation, sorry that she gone on bail.
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Where there is a need for further investigation of any
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matter for which they would detain, well, it's very hard
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to argue what exactly that might be. So I'll just
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round off this segment by asking the question who are
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the terrorists? This is from the Terrorism at two thousand
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and Section one starts by defining it where the threat
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of action, the useful threat of action is designed to
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intimidate the public or a section of the public, and
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the useful threat is made for the purposes of advancing
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a political, religious, or ideological cause. Well, that is ever
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more increasingly matching the behavior of the UK state with
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regard to these people who are putting themselves in such
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a place as to be critical of the regime. So
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that sort of wraps up this segment, no doubt. We'll
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talk about this a lot more in extra And now
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we're going to go to Ukraine, whereas a lens skizings
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beyond a certain amount of pressure, and Mike's going to
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deal with that for us.
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Speaker 7: Well indeed, but before we get to Ukraine itself, we've
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had Ukraine in Britain. So this is the Ukraine Defence
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Minister visiting and of course our Defence minister well no tongues,
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I hope. But anyway, this visit, they say, comes during
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a milestone moment, so they signed a bunch of paperwork.
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There is a milestone moment in international support for Ukraine,
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with eight countries from across the world having now joined
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the UK to provide more than one billion pounds to
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the International Fund for Ukraine in a significant show of unity.
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From Ukraine's allies, so that should make us all feel excellent.
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It comes after the Prime Minister, they say, announced the
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ifu's largest ever support package at the NATO summit in July,
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with three hundred million pounds contract to supply one one
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hundred and fifty two millimeters artillery shells. That contract's now
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been signed as of yesterday, and so there we go.
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That's all going on. But in the meantime, things in
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Ukraine itself seem to be falling apart somewhat, so a
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whole bunch of resignations. This is Kaliba, who's the foreign
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was the Foreign minister. He resigned today. This is what
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is being described as the highest profile casualty so far
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in this whole bunch of resignations. As we'll see in
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a second, this is happening at the time of a reshuffle.
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So apparently the people that are leaving are going to
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leave today and the new people that are going to
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be announced tomorrow. And well, various letters have been doing
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the wryng SNI. It's very quaint, perhaps that people are
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resigning in handwritten letters, because that doesn't seem to happen
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these days. Now this is being pushed around social media
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as being Kalba's resignation, but in fact it isn't. This
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was the Deputy Prime Minister for reintegration of the temporarily
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sorry of the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine she sent
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this particular letter. But if we look at the list
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so far, we've got Demitri Kalba, we've got the Minister
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of Justice, we've got the Minister for Strategic Industries, we've
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got the Minister for Environmental Protection and Natural Resources, the
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Deputy Prime Minister for European and neuro Atlantic integration, and
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the Deputy Prime Minister that we just mentioned for reintegration
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of unk controlled territories and also the deputy head of
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Zelenski's office have all resigned so far, and I'm sure
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that list is going to continue. So massive changes happening
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within the Ukrainian government, and many people now suggesting that
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this is the Rats leaving the sinking ship, and I
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think everybody at the UK colin will probably agree with
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that sentiment. In the meantime, over the border in Poland,
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the Polish Foreign Minister Radaxa Korski has been speaking to
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the Financial Times in this article. Poland has a duty
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to shoot down Russian missiles over Ukraine, says minister. So
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we're not going to worry about the border there if Ukraine.
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If there are any Russian missiles in Ukrainian airspace across the border,
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Poland is certainly aiming to get permission to go ahead,
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and should those done in what would be a pretty
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significant escalation, no doubt. Then in the meantime in Romania
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they have decided that they are at.
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Speaker 5: Least in the Romanian government has.
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Speaker 7: Decided that they are going to approve a donation of
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a patriot missile system to Ukraine. This is currently subject
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to ratification through the Roumanian Parliament and that's happening today apparently,
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so we shall see what happens there. But in the meantime,
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other great news from the UK itself because we have
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made a digital trade agreement. This is fantastic. So they've
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been pushing out some information about what we need to know,
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so let's just have a look at what they're saying here.
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The agreement opens the door to wider shifts in digital
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trading systems, which is more important than ever for Ukraine
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at a time when its physical systems have been impacted
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by war. It will allow consumers and businesses in both
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nations that benefit from open and inclusive digital markets.
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Speaker 5: What does that mean.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't quite tell you.
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Speaker 5: I don't think so.
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Speaker 7: The digital content is not subject to customs duties. A
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cheaper and quicker trade through promoting digital trading systems, including
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electronic contracts and digital authentication, online consumer protection and intellectual
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property protection is what they're talking about, and they go
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on to say that the agreement is part of a
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series of digital initiatives by the UK government. These include
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the UK Ukraine Tech Bridge, promoting collaboration and investment across
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both nations tech sectors. And they have a quote here
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from Jonathan Reynolds, who's the Secretor of State for Business
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and Trade, saying greater digitalization of the economy is an
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important step in supporting Ukraine's economy and their fight for independence.
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Speaker 5: This government regime, perhaps a.
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Speaker 7: Better word, will continue to lead the way in our
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unwavering support for Ukraine and its people. Well, just to
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give you an impression of what this means, if we
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think about what Brian was presenting on Bundy with the
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UK Defense Journal coverage of how much money has been
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pumped into Ukraine by the British government so far, the
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value of the value of exports of digitally delivered services
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to Ukraine is one hundred and fifty one million pounds.
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So that's value for money. We pumped billions and billions
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and billions of pounds that could be better spent in
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this country.
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Speaker 5: We pump that into the war in Ukraine.
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Speaker 7: We see the deaths and destruction as a result, and
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the return on that is one hundred and fifty one
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million pounds in digital services. Good job British government, slash regime.
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And then finally on sort of defense in war. I
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just wanted to leave on a little bit of humor
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because well, the HMS Queen Elizabeth has sailed again, having
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had its refit for the propeller prop shaft issues that
21:53
was suffering. It is now heading back to see for
21:56
a busy period of equipment trials and training. So Charles
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question for you is how long will it be before
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it has to be towed back into port?
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Speaker 5: Do you think? Well?
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't like to make a guest for choosing too
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large a number, but perhaps we should have a sweepstake
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for the UK column audience.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 7: In the chat box, please we'll talk about a bit
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more an extra Okay, let's leave that topic there for today,
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And we want to say once again if you haven't
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got a copy or send a copy to their friend
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of Agenda twenty one, your life in their hands.
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Speaker 5: Please do that.
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Speaker 7: Now, yesterday I was speaking to David Siegel and we
23:16
were launching or at least announcing the launching of a
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second climate science masterclass. Now I'm going to say the
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feedback on that has been mixed because quite a lot
23:26
of people find some of the content quite challenging.
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Speaker 5: And indeed it is.
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Speaker 7: But nonetheless, I'm just going to say for the first
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Climate Science Masterclass, all the people including myself that took
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part and it got a lot from it. So in
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this particular interview, we're talking about global warming or sorry
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about the term is completely no, don't worry, well, yes,
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we are talking about climate ticulate. Anyway, watch it. It
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is challenging and worth a bit of thought. And the
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eleventh of September is the beginning of the next Climate
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Science Masterclass or the details are in that video tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow, yeah, going out tomorrow. An interview I've recorded with
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Claire Wills Harrison, a lawyer by trade, and a fascinating
24:15
insight into how she's seen the legal system effectively collapse
24:20
around her with corruption at every turn. Now, Claire significantly
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is going to be at the live event in October,
24:28
and I would very much encourage you to listen to
24:30
her interview, specifically because she talks about tax resistance as
24:33
well as a lot of challenges that she came across
24:35
doing sort of COVID period, particularly around informed consent, and
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then we go to Bristol on the nineteenth of October,
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So if you haven't got your ticket yet then please
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do take a look at that. They are selling well.
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Also on timings, we've had a few inquiries as to
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what time the day would finish. We've got doors open
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at nine point fifteen. We have the venue until eight
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o'clock in the evening, so I think it would be
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prudent to book travel after eight o'clock in the evening.
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Speaker 7: On Sunday, we'll be hosting a symposium on behalf of
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International Justice for Sorry International Center for nine to eleven Justice,
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entitled the Aviation and Possibilities Deconstructing the official story of
25:16
the nine to eleven Hijackings and Air defense Failures. This
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of course is for the anniversary of nine to eleven itself.
25:23
Join us for that begins at six pm. It'll be
25:26
in the usual livestream places and we'll be hosting that
25:30
on their behalf.
25:32
Speaker 1: And then coming up this weekend Friday and Saturday, the
25:36
Attack on Food and Farmers Symposium hosted by Children's Health
25:40
Defense at CCHD dot tv. A lot of very knowledgeable
25:43
and good speakers. You can see actually in the lower
25:46
rank Joel Salatin who was in a UK call him
25:50
interview just a couple of weeks ago. So if you're
25:52
wanting to look at a way of controlling your own
25:55
food supply, then I would encourage you to tune into that.
25:58
Speaker 7: And on Saturday the twentieth of September, Brian and I
26:02
will be speaking of the Heritage Party conference that that
26:05
is in reading and details on the Heritage Party dot
26:09
org website.
26:11
Speaker 1: And then finally the Died Suddenly exhibition which is going
26:16
to be shown in London in November, being organized by
26:19
Jake Fern to explore the unexplained deaths, the excess deaths
26:24
that have been happening over the past few years. So
26:25
if you want to get in touch with Jake about that,
26:27
please do so at Jake Hfern at Yahoo dot co
26:32
dot UK. Now we'll move on to the topic of extremism,
26:38
which is never far from the news, or at least
26:40
how extremism is defined. And over the last couple of
26:43
weeks I've referred to David Klues who is running Unity
26:48
News Network, and of course he was in effect pilloried
26:51
and victimized by the mainstream media for the way in
26:55
which he treated in a news reporting capacity the violent
26:59
dis after the Southport killings. Now I spoke to David
27:04
and there's going to be an interview published straight to
27:06
the UK column website later on this week. So I've
27:08
just got a clip of him speaking to me, and
27:11
my question to him was where does he see this going?
27:14
What is the end state as far as government is concerned.
27:19
Speaker 8: In an ideal world, they would shut down social media
27:21
entirely and you would just be stuck at home watching
27:24
the BBC or ITV or Sky and you'd be watching
27:28
their approved titles. They simply do not want people having
27:33
alternative sources of information because if they do, people can
27:36
then expose their scams and they can expose their lives.
27:40
And we all have a track record over COVID, we
27:43
have a track record over the war in Ukraine. We've
27:46
got a track record over the conflict in Israeli and Gaza.
27:50
And they clearly don't like us because we provided nuanced
27:56
and balanced view.
27:59
Speaker 9: It's like they say they are conspiracy theorists, they're brainwashed.
28:04
They say, we're the ones that actually have a proper
28:10
look at the situation and try and say look, in
28:13
every conflict, there's one side there's another side, and there's
28:15
other people, and this is some of the and they
28:18
just they hate that.
28:22
Speaker 1: So dover clear is they're really talking about the suppression
28:24
of speech, the suppression of any kind of dissenting voice,
28:29
which of course is now being labeled as extremist. And
28:32
so therefore it's worth pointing out that on Tuesday, sorry Monday,
28:37
it would have been evat Cooper in the House Commons
28:40
talking about extremism. She says, in a debate about violence order,
28:44
I've been concerned for a long time that not enough
28:46
is being done to counter extremism, including both Islamist extremism
28:50
and far right extremism, as there has been no proper
28:53
strategy in place since twenty fifteen. And she goes on
28:56
to say that she's ordered a rapid review of extremism
29:00
to ensure that we have the strongest possible response to
29:02
the poisonous ideologies that corrode community cohesion and freight the
29:07
fabric of our democracy. Now, of course, what she really
29:10
means by that is anyone that disagrees with either her
29:13
or the government. So I'll just point out that the
29:16
Free Speech Union, they probably have to be a bit
29:18
capful about the language they use here, but they say
29:20
they've threatened to take the Home Secretary to court over
29:23
her plan to revive the perception based version of the
29:27
non crime hate incident. Basically, Ivett Cooper wants what are
29:31
called non crime hate incidents, which are extraordinarily hard to
29:34
define but effectively do not represent a criminal offense. She
29:39
wants them to be recorded. Interesting also that the graphic
29:41
used shows a plastic test, which I think is the
29:44
sort that was used for the COVID so called pandemic.
29:50
So we will watch to see which direction this goes in.
29:52
Of course, we have all the enormous sort of wealth
29:54
material on where Lord Walney had been going with this
29:57
for the previous government. And Mike's just going to roun
30:00
off this segment with a bit more about UK colon content.
30:03
Speaker 7: Well, perhaps the Free Speech Union should read this article
30:07
because it's just been posted on the UK column website.
30:09
Britain had the first Amendment first. This is Philip Bridley,
30:13
and it's a fantastic article which goes through all the
30:17
legal and constitutional background to where Britain's write the freedom
30:23
of speech comes from, and in fact where the first
30:26
Amendment in the United States derived from.
30:29
Speaker 5: So this is a very important article.
30:31
Speaker 7: And I do recommend everybody reads it and most importantly
30:34
shares it.
30:35
Speaker 5: Please.
30:36
Speaker 7: Now, yesterday the government announced the regime announced that certain
30:43
export licenses for arms to Israel were going to be suspended.
30:47
This is what David Lami had to say.
30:52
Speaker 10: But facing a conflict such as this, it is this
30:56
government's legal duty to review export licenses. Is with regret
31:01
that I inform the House today the assessment I have
31:05
received leaves me unable to conclude anything other than that
31:10
for certain UK arms exports to Israel, there does exist
31:15
a clear risk that they might be used to commit
31:19
or facilitate a serious violation of international humanitarian law. And
31:25
he is therefore today announcing the suspension of around thirty
31:30
from a total of approximately three hundred and fifty to Israel,
31:34
as required under the Export controls.
31:37
Speaker 7: At So this looks to me like nonsense really, of
31:44
at least virtue signaling and nothing else, because one of
31:47
the significant exclusions from this thirty is anything to do
31:53
with the F thirty five, and of course the F
31:55
thirty five is one of the main weapons that's being
31:58
used to demolish Gaza at the moment, So that is
32:02
a pretty significant omission. They are saying that if they
32:06
attempted to restrict exports of F thirty five parts and
32:10
so on, that this would have a much broader effect
32:13
than just the Gaza conflict itself. My question then is
32:18
has this got anything to do with Ukraine? Actually, so,
32:20
if we bring this on screen, this has been a
32:24
narrative that's been running for a long time, and clearly
32:26
the Ukrainians complaining bitterly that they don't have the weapons
32:30
and that Britain and the rest of the world needs
32:32
to send more weapons. But the question is do we
32:34
have the weapons to send, and increasingly I suspect the
32:36
answer is no. So I think this is from late
32:38
twenty twenty three, and then this is from just a
32:41
day or two ago, uk and Europe running out of
32:43
weapons to help Taiwan if China invade. So again this
32:47
article talking about the fact that the weapons have all
32:49
gone to Ukraine. So, Vanessa, very briefly, I was just
32:53
wondering what your thoughts are on this, because it seems
32:55
to me that probably if all they want to do
32:58
is virtue signal, they whose export licenses that apply to
33:02
weapons that they don't have to export anyway.
33:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean ultimately, you know, Britain has been
33:08
providing intelligence operations and surveillance to Israel for a long time,
33:13
but particularly since October the seventh. And yeah, I agree
33:16
with you, Mike.
33:17
Speaker 2: This is total virtue Signalaine.
33:19
Speaker 3: And notice that there is no transparency over these contracts.
33:24
So the remaining three hundred and twenty I presume we're
33:28
not being given information as to what that includes.
33:32
Speaker 5: That's absolutely right.
33:34
Speaker 7: Now let's move to Gaza Vanessa and we'll just start
33:37
off with this tweet here because this is analyst Dodds,
33:41
who's the Minister for International Development and tweeting it about
33:47
this great effort to vaccinate the whole of gaz and
33:50
society for polio. And I just wanted to bring one
33:55
examine on one graphic there. This is an oral vaccine.
34:00
Undoubtedly you've got something to say about this.
34:04
Speaker 3: Yes, well, I'll start off with the Journal of Infectious Diseases.
34:08
Speaker 2: With prolonged replication.
34:10
Speaker 3: Attenuated poliovirus' use in the oral polio vaccine can mutate
34:15
into what is called vaccine derived poliovirus, So I'll just
34:21
start with that. And as I said, that's from the
34:23
Journal of Infectious diseases. The who is effectively the organization
34:29
which has identified one case of paralysis in a child
34:33
in Gaza and is now asking for a humanitarian pause
34:39
from Israel to enable the entry of one million oral
34:44
polio virus vaccines and will that campaign will be made
34:51
up of two stages, the first vaccine and the second.
34:55
Speaker 2: This is Ahmed al Rahman, sorry the name escape me
34:59
from recycon.
35:00
Speaker 3: Who's the child that has been claimed has contracted poliovirus?
35:05
But remember that that virus could easily be already present
35:11
from the previous oral vaccine campaigns in Gaza, bearing in
35:17
mind the appalling conditions, immunosuppressant conditions that these people are
35:21
living in, poor sanitation, trauma, lack of food, lack of water,
35:28
lack of anything pretty much.
35:30
Speaker 2: And of course that's a deliberate.
35:32
Speaker 3: Campaign by Israel. And this was back in November twenty
35:36
twenty three. Of course, there have been other very similar statements.
35:40
Former Israel general says severe academics, epidemics sorry in Gaza
35:46
would help Israel win the wars. So is this a
35:50
vaccine campaign or is this by a warfare by the
35:53
Zionus against Palestinians. And of course when we look at
35:59
the deliberate construction of the majority of the water and
36:02
sewage system since October the seventh, deadly disease ripping through
36:06
Gaza after the destruction of the water and sewage systems,
36:10
and there's a very long and detailed report from Oxfram
36:16
water war crimes, how Israel has weaponized water in its military.
36:21
Speaker 2: Campaign in Gaza.
36:24
Speaker 3: And of course we shouldn't forget that Israel has been
36:28
deliberately targeting children more than seventeen thousand.
36:32
Speaker 2: We know these numbers are very low estimates.
36:35
Speaker 3: Children have been killed in some of the cruelest and
36:38
most savage ways possible. So why now a so called
36:42
humanitarian cause? And here, of course is Bill Gates, one
36:47
of the originators of the oral polio vaccine and responsible
36:52
for much else as we know with Israel's Netan Yahoo.
36:57
And then this is from the Children's Health Defense, which
37:02
of course Robert Kennedy Jr. Was formerly where they think
37:06
Mike ke told me that he had now left. But
37:10
of course the irony is that he is a supporter,
37:14
or rather a denier of Israel's genocide against Palestinians.
37:19
Speaker 2: But in this article they talk about the polio vaccination.
37:22
Speaker 3: Still causing polio after all these years, So what do
37:26
they actually say?
37:28
Speaker 2: So that oral polio vaccine.
37:30
Speaker 3: Is a US around the world in constitutes the so
37:33
called work course of global polio eradication efforts due to
37:36
its low cost and east administration.
37:38
Speaker 2: The OPV contains life.
37:40
Speaker 3: But we can polioviruses that match up to wild polioviruses.
37:45
Vaccine researchers have long known that these OPV derived viruses
37:49
can themselves cause polio, particularly when they get loose in
37:53
the environment. In settings with poor sanitation, and as I've
37:57
mentioned in Groza, you can't get much poorer if hygiene,
38:00
the vaccine viruses can easily find their way into the
38:04
water sources or into the sewage and onto contaminated hands
38:08
or food, where they can then launch a self perpetuing
38:11
chain of transmission. Researchers can see that an OPV virus
38:16
can very rapidly regain its strength if it starts spreading
38:19
on its own, acquiring mutations that make it basically indistinguishable
38:24
from the wild type virus. In other words, there is
38:27
no meaningful difference between a wild and OPV derived poliovirus
38:32
in terms of virulence and in terms of how the
38:35
virus spreads, and I remind people again that Israel has
38:39
no humanitarian reflex towards Palestinians whatsoever. And from the substack
38:46
of journalist Sam Husseini, he points out the fact that
38:50
some have argued that Israel's goal is to ensure that
38:53
there is not a polio outbreak in Gaza, since that
38:56
might threaten the Israel itself. It's an example of enlightened
39:00
self interest. However, this reasoning.
39:02
Speaker 2: Might be undermined.
39:03
Speaker 3: I believe it is by the fact that Israel has
39:06
been giving it soldiers a polio vaccine, and they have
39:09
been giving them the IPv vaccine, not the oral one
39:12
given to Palestinians. This would indicate that they would be
39:16
immune to it, and Israel may effectively come off unscathed
39:19
from a polio outbreak among the Palestinians. Also, IPv deals
39:24
with all three types of polio. In twenty twenty two,
39:27
Israel had cases of polio and the wha oh sorry
39:31
it reports IPA and OPV were used. Now it's interesting
39:36
to note that, for example, in countries equally with very
39:39
poor sanitation conditions like the Congo, like Yemen during the war,
39:46
there are cases of vaccine derived polio outbreaks, and while
39:52
the WH show was carrying out an oral polio vaccine
39:58
campaign in Pakis Dhan back in twenty thirteen twenty twelve,
40:04
there were mercenaries coming into Syria from Pakistan that were
40:07
fighting alongside al Kaedo in Syria to prople the Syrian government,
40:11
and there was effectively an outbreak of polio at that point,
40:16
vaccine derived polio in Syria. I remember these reports that
40:20
probably you do might and in fact, the Assyrian government
40:24
accused the WHO of importing polio back into Syria because
40:29
in Syria had been eradicated in nineteen ninety nine. So
40:34
and then basically even among the Gazans themselves, there is
40:38
a huge distrust about Israel's motives in allowing the vaccines
40:45
right now, In this there's a couple of clips from
40:48
a Gaza journalist, Bissan Aldo, who's been reporting on the
40:53
genocide since over the seventh and herself is suffering with
40:57
one of the multiple skin diseases that are now rampant
41:01
in cars because of the conditions.
41:03
Speaker 2: So let's play the first video.
41:06
Speaker 11: This guy, anonymous, I don't know who is this guy
41:11
sent me this email and lair Dally he made me
41:16
ask a lot of questions. I mean, do really the
41:21
occupation who killed seventeen thousand children, who cut them into pieces,
41:27
killed them in brutal ways on front of their parents,
41:30
or maybe let them bleed on this rubble for hours
41:33
before passing away, cares about saving the lives of children
41:40
in Gaza. The same occupation, criminal's genocidal army, who are
41:47
now putting all these children in tents and horrific conditions,
41:53
health conditions, let them die, literally die because of starvation,
42:00
die because of the skin infections, and because of the fever,
42:05
because of everything.
42:07
Speaker 12: And then now they cares, they care about the vaccine,
42:13
the body of virus vaccine.
42:15
Speaker 11: Why?
42:19
Speaker 3: Very good questions And in fact, one of the points
42:22
that I thought about afterwards as well is, of course
42:25
the vaccine centers that she will now describe will lead
42:31
to the influx of crowds of some of the youngest
42:34
generation in gods or of course, fifty percent of the
42:37
population is under the age of eighteen, So is this
42:42
Israel basically targeting the next generation of Palestinians, as they
42:46
have been doing since October the seventh, with the majority
42:49
of their targets having been children.
42:52
Speaker 2: So let's just see how she talks about this, is.
42:56
Speaker 11: That there is no such thing as a truce or
43:00
unitarians who's it's only.
43:03
Speaker 12: In the hospitals, the field hospitals or the medical clinics
43:09
or points field points that will give the vaccine for
43:13
the children. So a kid or a parent okay, can
43:18
be killed while going to have the vaccine or getting
43:22
back from having the vaccine to their tints or their
43:25
displacements can.
43:29
Speaker 3: And actually, sadly, this is exactly what happened yesterday that
43:32
Alfa Fura School, which was one of the vaccine administration centers,
43:39
was bond or leading.
43:40
Speaker 2: To multiple casualties. So it appears that you know the
43:44
fears about.
43:45
Speaker 3: The introduction of bio warfare and also the gathering together of.
43:51
Speaker 2: Targets for Israel to be able to slaughter them.
43:54
Speaker 5: On that, thanks very much, Vanessa.
43:58
Speaker 1: And it does seem an extraordinary inter until one considers
44:01
who might benefit or who stands to benefit the most
44:04
from it. But certainly it's not isolated as exactly you
44:07
point out. So I just want to draw people's attention,
44:09
first of all, to what's happened in Ukraine, where the
44:11
parallels are very significant and we see that six hundred
44:14
and fifty thousand doses of specifically polio vaccine to Ukraine
44:18
in April last year. This is a UNICEF And then
44:21
on a broader context, we've got the World Health Organization
44:24
in twenty twenty three, again describing they're on the move
44:27
for health, defending Ukraine against vaccine preventable diseases. And of
44:31
course when the balloon goes up, the pharmaceutical industry pounces
44:35
and the World Health Organization therefore saying the war has
44:39
made it harder for people to get vaccinated in Ukraine.
44:42
Obstacles include the displacement of populations, destruction of health care infrastructure,
44:46
and disruption of logistical routes for delivering medical products. This
44:50
profound impact raises concerns about the potential for outbreaks of polio,
44:54
measles and other diseases, and has prompted the need for
44:57
innovative solutions to sustain access to inmanization. So first of all,
45:01
they're completely ignoring whether or not people wanted to get
45:03
vaccinated for anything in the first place until the conflict
45:06
came along. And also the other thing being ignored is
45:10
that all of this would be much easier if there
45:12
was simply a cessation of hostilities, which seems to be
45:15
a strategy that's never pursued by any of the parties
45:18
involved because there's too much at stake. The other thing
45:22
to look at is from this year, which is a
45:24
report well widely reported actually that the Pentagon apparently was
45:28
spreading what's called misinformation or disinformation, effectively an anti vaccine
45:32
propaganda campaign to rubbish the Sino vaccine of China. And
45:39
the way this is described by the Scientific American is
45:43
that they say that now we know, when health authorities
45:45
were desperately trying to tamp down these fears, the Pentagon
45:48
was running its own conspiracy operation to discredit vaccines just
45:51
so it could score points against China. The revelation is
45:55
a worst case scenario story for the global public health community,
45:58
says Calfield, because it demonstrates that anti VAXX misinformation was
46:03
being spread by the government and it reinforces people's distrust
46:07
in institutions. Well, that's one way of interpreting it. I
46:10
think I might say that in actual facts, this is
46:12
probably more related to corporate greed, and in actual fact
46:16
that by suggesting that the Sinovac was problematic, was not
46:21
only pushing people towards vaccines made by different manufacturers, but
46:27
also reinforcing the idea that anybody that considers any anti
46:31
vaccine sentiment of any sort is a lunatic and should
46:34
be treated as an extremist. But also we want to
46:38
look at the you know, the sort of the known harms,
46:40
and just a reminder therefore, that Gulf War syndrome clearly,
46:44
you know, an ongoing thing being ported here by the
46:48
Department of Veterans Affairs in America. But again the absolute
46:53
opportunism expressed by the pharmaceutical industry even when no substantial
46:58
threat can be ever evidence, of course, the pressure on
47:02
the system to vaccinate completely unwitting members of the armed forces.
47:05
And Asbinessa's just been talking about, the vaccine derived polio
47:09
from Syria, of course, enormous body of evidence suggests that
47:12
polio is caused by DDT in the first place, and
47:15
that it's actually the vaccine that.
47:17
Speaker 5: Does the harm.
47:18
Speaker 1: On top of that, but then the last thing to
47:21
look at is the manufacturer and who stands to gain
47:24
Again this has already been alluded to, But the manufacturer
47:27
in this instance is Biofarmer, which is actually in Indonesian
47:30
state owned business, but of course they are in strategic
47:33
partnership with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, so that's
47:38
how that circle is squared. I dare say this as
47:43
a modus operandi will absolutely persist and will be seeing
47:47
it rolled out across all zones of conflict under the
47:51
banner of an emergency which regards medical intervention as we've
47:55
seen a lots over the last few years. Now that
47:57
takes us back to the United Kingdom and specifically digital identity.
48:03
Speaker 7: Yes, you'll be glad to know. Everybody will be glad
48:06
to know that company's house has decided that it will
48:09
start implementing the government's one Login system. And if you remember,
48:14
one Login is making sure that everybody can it's well.
48:18
They describe it as the new, straightforward, secure way to
48:20
access government digital services. It allows users to access a
48:24
range of central government services using just one account, one
48:28
user name.
48:28
Speaker 5: And one password.
48:29
Speaker 7: That means that none of us will be will need
48:33
to provide information multiple times, so convenience is the method
48:37
of the day here now. So far, the areas that
48:41
you can already use one log in include if you
48:43
want to apply for your HM Armed Forces Veterans Card,
48:47
if you want to get a driving license, if you
48:49
want to become a registered social worker in England, if
48:52
you want to be taking part in the Apprenticeship Assessment Service,
48:56
or to check if a health condition affects your driving,
49:00
or to claim composition if you were a victim of
49:01
vironment crime or early year's child development in training, find
49:07
an apprenticeship in the UK, find and apply for a grant,
49:11
find a UK market Conformity Assessment body and so on,
49:15
and also manage apprenticeships.
49:18
Speaker 5: The list goes on.
49:19
Speaker 7: But anyway, company sie getting involved in this, and so
49:24
the other thing to note here is that they mentioned
49:28
that basically they will require this log in, this one
49:33
log in, once they've gone through a private beta process
49:35
and then a public beta process. And the reason for
49:38
that is that under the Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency
49:42
Act that you can see on screen at the moment,
49:45
anyone setting up, running, owning or controlling a company in
49:48
the UK will need to verify their identity to prove
49:51
who they are and who they claim to be. And so,
49:55
as I say, once this public beta is complete, every
49:57
user signing in to the find and Update the Information
50:00
service will need to use one login.
50:03
Speaker 5: But if we remember back.
50:04
Speaker 7: To the previous Tory regime here, and they were highlighting
50:08
the issue of digital ID and they were trying to
50:11
bat off a bunch of claims that people were making
50:14
on the internet and so on, and so they created
50:16
a frequently asked Questions and the claim here that they
50:19
were trying to bat off was using one login would
50:21
be mandatory, and they said at the time no, having
50:24
a UK government one login account will not be mandatory
50:27
for UK citizens. Offline and face to face routes will
50:31
be available for individuals who do not want to use
50:34
the online service. So I've asked a company's house whether
50:38
in fact that will be the case, whether they will
50:40
be providing alternative access, and I'm still willing to hear
50:44
back from They are going to give me that information
50:47
and I'll report back in due course. But in the meantime,
50:50
of course, other companies or other organizations within the government
50:55
continuing to fail at providing this alternative access. So this
50:59
is HRC customer service at all time low as phone
51:02
line with it gets longer. That was from February this year,
51:07
And I just want to mention the possibility that one
51:11
login you know, is being ruled out, but perhaps you
51:15
can go to the post office as an alternative. This
51:18
is what they were suggesting. I haven't seen anything actually
51:21
officially announced that this is a service available already, but
51:26
I'm going to suggest that in fact, digital ID is
51:29
going to be a requirement for using the one Login system,
51:32
and that is going to be a requirement for accessing
51:35
government services increasingly.
51:37
Speaker 1: Absolutely by Hooko boy Crik. It does seem exactly that's
51:40
the way it's going. And I'm just going to sort
51:42
of effectively extend this theme by referring to a government
51:46
document about enabling the use of digital identities, and we
51:51
hear a lot about the enabling and the government effectively
51:55
suggesting that they are going to be doing this themselves,
51:58
which is why there's a big red array, is saying
52:00
working to help people securely prove who they are without
52:04
and to rely on physical documents. So again hanging everything
52:07
on the apparent desire for convenience, and this falls under
52:12
decent the Department for Science, Innovation and Technology, and they
52:16
seem to be suggesting to everybody that's the most frightful
52:19
bare to have to repeatedly present physical documents, and that
52:22
the government is not making digital identities mandatory. So it's
52:26
very much a theme. History suggests that when somebody says
52:29
something like that, they absolutely mean it will be mandatory.
52:31
And probably the most well effective mechanism is by what
52:37
might be termed a lock out, so that if you
52:39
haven't done such a thing, you simply can't use the
52:41
services that other people would be able to. So now
52:44
we're going to look into how this gets certified. It's
52:47
all very well the government saying they're doing it, but
52:48
who actually underpins this, who's providing the background to it?
52:52
And this was updated on Monday the list of digital
52:56
Identity and Attribute services who are now certified against what's
53:00
called the UK Digital Identity and Attributes Trust Framework. Now,
53:04
in order to make this work, or at least to
53:08
be able to judge it, because of course artificial intelligence
53:11
plays its part in this, they have gone to ad
53:14
VI or ADVE. I'm not entirely sure how you pronounce it,
53:16
but it's the Advanced Evaluation of AI powered identity verification
53:21
systems and they claim that AI is core to online
53:27
identity verification as the complexity of verification tools have advanced,
53:32
so to have the methods to deceive them. And again
53:35
they state that sort of passively. But actually it's such
53:40
an enormous consideration in this in that with every advance,
53:46
so too is there a counter advance by effectively the
53:50
cyber criminal capability. Nonetheless, the new kid on the block,
53:55
as it were, is some sub. They've just been certified
53:58
in the UK as a tree trusted identity verification services providers.
54:03
That's from August the twenty third, And going back to
54:07
who exactly it is that is deciding whether or not
54:10
an identity is valid, they talk about having a framework
54:13
which aims to create a trusted environment where digital identities
54:17
can be confidently used by individuals and organizations, thus enhancing security, privacy,
54:23
and efficiency in digital transactions such as financial operations or
54:27
online government services, exactly like Mike's been talking about. So
54:32
it seems pertinent to wonder who is behind such an organization,
54:37
Who are the people that are running these organizations, what
54:40
is their pedigree?
54:41
Speaker 5: Well, some sub.
54:42
Speaker 1: Appears to be the brainchild of somebody called Jacob Sever,
54:47
or at least is he called Jacob Sever. This is
54:49
his LinkedIn profile upon which is listed no other experience
54:54
at all. This is the only thing he has shown
54:56
there and Companies House shows that an actual fact it's
54:59
called some and substance, and that his name now seems
55:03
to be Yakov Sevurikin. Now I've highlighted the fact that
55:07
not only as he Israeli, but he doesn't live in
55:10
the United Kingdom. He's from Cyprus and he is the
55:13
sole director of a company with a thirty one million
55:16
pound turnover, which strikes me as an unlikely situation. Among
55:20
the persons of significant control. They are all called Sevurikin,
55:24
are at least at some point or another. Now it
55:27
seems somewhat ironic when we're dealing with digital identity. There
55:30
seemed to be at least four spellings of the surname.
55:33
But they appear to be a family business, two twin
55:36
brothers and another perhaps cousin, perhaps a brother. But this
55:40
is who we are going to be submitting control of
55:42
our lives too, and companies like this which need to
55:46
have no tie to the United Kingdom beyond registration with
55:50
company's house. Also, of course, they're offering secure face authentication
55:54
for the banking industry, and again we have the idea
55:57
so safe and it's so convenient. So they talk about
56:00
biometric checks for digital banking, but what we really have
56:03
to be bearing in mind here is facial recognition, because
56:05
of course this capability, whilst it might be used to
56:08
apparently protect bank accounts, has many other applications. And just
56:12
to demonstrate that, they say that they have ninety nine
56:14
percent pass rate, I would say that actually, of one
56:17
percent of people can't use this technology, that's a fail.
56:20
But nonetheless they seem to be advertising it as a
56:22
good thing. I've highlighted that they say they work with
56:25
various nationalities. There's a little bit mincing their words there,
56:29
seemingly not all nationalities, but also as if to say
56:33
that you know you can't trick facial recognition. They say
56:35
it works with glasses, beards, and makeup. And also now
56:40
more significantly, they say that they're now the first verification
56:43
provider to achieve Global Identity certification, so they've they've gone
56:48
a step up from just dealing with UK identity. But
56:52
earlier they made a reference to finance, and I just
56:55
wanted to go back to that because they have now
56:57
partnered with Finastra, the financial platform technology provider sort of
57:03
payments solution provider, with software to support that. And the
57:08
reason that's significant is that on the Finastra website published
57:12
recently in May of this year, there's the question asked
57:15
where will UK payments be in the next ten years,
57:19
and it is an article worth looking at. But what
57:21
I've picked out is this chunk form a paragraph here
57:25
which says currently the top three priorities for UK financial
57:28
services firms are open banking, the new payments architecture under
57:33
review by HM Treasury and the Central Bank Digital Currency CBDC.
57:39
The review suggests that it will take at least five
57:41
years and a total cost of between ten billion and
57:44
twenty billion to deliver this payment's roadmap. So it seems
57:48
little coincidence that a company partnered with Finastra specifically with
57:54
the intent of enabling a central bank digital currency would
57:58
be chosen as a trusted provider of an identity verification
58:02
service by the UK government. Where exactly this is going
58:05
to go is hard to determine as yet, but it
58:09
does not look like it's going in a very good direction.
58:11
So I'll close off that segment now, and I.
58:13
Speaker 7: Think, well, just before we move on, I just wanted
58:15
to get a comment from you, Vanessa, because once again
58:18
we have righted the core of you know, technology, an
58:23
Israeli company or at least back by israelis I wonder
58:26
where they got their seed capital from. I'll take a wide,
58:29
wild stab in the dark and say Unity two hundred.
58:32
But I don't know that off the top of my head.
58:34
But I just wondered if you had any comments on that.
58:38
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, whether it's Unit A two hundred or
58:40
another one of the intelligence agencies. We know that, you know,
58:43
virtually all the population in Israel has gone through or
58:47
is part of the military services.
58:50
Speaker 2: So I mean, it's a pretty good guess.
58:53
Speaker 3: And that's certainly the first thing that sort of jumped
58:55
to my mind.
58:57
Speaker 7: Yes, okay, well, look we will end with this little
59:01
bit of irony. So this is a screenshot from a
59:04
part of the Daily Mill website yesterday, and I'm just
59:07
going to highlight, first of all, the article at the top,
59:11
because the headline on this is I'm twenty one and
59:14
by the way, I'm reading this, forbid, I'm twenty one,
59:17
and I clean hoarder homes for a living. This is
59:21
why I do it. And the moment I find a
59:24
twenty thousand point item, I find under a moldy carpet.
59:28
Now that may not have made any sense to anybody
59:30
that's because the sentence doesn't make or the headline doesn't
59:33
make any sense. So that was the top of that
59:35
little block of articles on the front page of the Meal,
59:39
and then as we scroll down the bottom we find
59:41
an article here saying, the next time you spell check,
59:44
these unfortunate typo show the importance of proofreading. And I
59:48
just thought the irony in that was spectacular by the
59:51
Daily Mill. Perhaps they should take their own advice and
59:54
do a little bit of a better job at proofreading
59:57
their own material. And we will leave you to think
1:00:00
about that for today.
1:00:01
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Mike, thanks very much indeed for joining me. Thank
1:00:04
you all for joining us. Vanessa, thank you too. Now,
1:00:07
don't forget the interview with Claire will's Housen going out
1:00:11
at one o'clock tomorrow afternoon, and of course please get
1:00:15
your tickets for the October event if you have not
1:00:17
already done so, but otherwise we'll look forward to seeing
1:00:20
you on Friday. Thank you very much, goodbye, righte