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NFL First Look | Week 10 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Fall systems going clear to lift. What's Up? Ember one?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tambaline here aka Totagg and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of The First Look Show. This week sadly but
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  Speaker 1: double digits. Week ten. We're through nine weeks now, we're
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  Speaker 1: headed into Week ten. Got my guy degenerate seventy five
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  Speaker 1: here with me as always, coming off a pretty big
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  Speaker 1: week for himself. DJ. I'll bring you in right away, man,
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  Speaker 1: awesome week nine for you many of the members. Great
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  Speaker 1: great stuff going on over chip a nation right now,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll talk more about that in a minute. But
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  Speaker 1: how you doing, my friend? And yeah, Week ten, we're
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  Speaker 1: moving through this thing quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Doing great, just enjoying my life as a tout. Now.
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  Speaker 3: I've always been anti tout, but two weeks in a
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  Speaker 3: row here on the First Look Show. The very first
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  Speaker 3: thing that I say, I think I'm gonna build around
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  Speaker 3: this stack, it was Jamis two weeks ago, is Gino
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  Speaker 3: last week.
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  Speaker 2: They both got me there.
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  Speaker 3: So it makes me just love this First Look Show
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  Speaker 3: because against the juice is flowing and has got me
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  Speaker 3: on the right place two weeks in a row to
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  Speaker 3: make this a very profitable NFL season.
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  Speaker 1: Got my notes this week. I'm not checking notes to
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  Speaker 1: tell them they suck, like you'll do. But I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: actually maybe take some notes here and remember some of
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  Speaker 1: this stuff because you were all over it last week,
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  Speaker 1: and I do want to call out just another thing
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  Speaker 1: like this was actually interesting. Someone brought this up to
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  Speaker 1: me through DMS. But remember last week, I thought this
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  Speaker 1: was one of the better strategy tips we've had all
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  Speaker 1: season when you talked about like Burrow and I know
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  Speaker 1: this is what they came to me with. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Burrow crush you guys said, like he
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  Speaker 1: scored five touchdown, Like it's that's the exact point though,
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  Speaker 1: of what you gave. Like if you built with Jacoby
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  Speaker 1: Myers in your Burrow stacks like I did, you were
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  Speaker 1: you or Madison and you put some other guys in.
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  Speaker 1: You were saying that if he did get there, at
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  Speaker 1: least build it so that it's because they came along.
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  Speaker 1: Don't just stack him and Chase and move on because
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  Speaker 1: it's very unlikely they're even gonna do anything. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: Chase didn't have the best week himself, but just to note,
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  Speaker 1: Chase Brown had a good week. But yeah, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to kick that back to you, because I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was kind of a key point you mentioned. But
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  Speaker 1: if you are going to go against it or go
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  Speaker 1: with that, however you want to phrase it, go with it,
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  Speaker 1: then commit.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean that that was the point I was.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I liked that Rams and Seahawks game last week,
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  Speaker 3: because I knew if Gino was going to get there
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  Speaker 3: with Matthew Stafford having his full plethora of weapons, that
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  Speaker 3: they were going to be pushing that game, right they should.
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  Speaker 3: The yards in that game far exceeded the points that
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  Speaker 3: should have been like a thirty four to twenty seven
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  Speaker 3: type game. And the reason that there were so many
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  Speaker 3: yards is because the Rams were pushing it, which allowed
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  Speaker 3: Gino to go get that kind of ninety five percent
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  Speaker 3: outcome when it came to points. And that's that's the
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  Speaker 3: point I was trying to make with the Raiders and
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  Speaker 3: the Bengals too, is that if if the Bengals are
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  Speaker 3: going to have a big game and it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be Burrow, there's going to have to be some Raider
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  Speaker 3: probably pushing them, and it was Jacobe Myers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a good trade off too, So
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  Speaker 1: love I love that part about the Gino stuff aside,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just the other stuff aside the Gino stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned like some people were worried that when he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have Metcalf it could get worse, and that is
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  Speaker 1: certainly true. But again we talk a lot about tradeoffs.
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  Speaker 1: I had some conversation with people in the discord today
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  Speaker 1: about NHL, and you know, it's really top heavy tonight,
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  Speaker 1: but there's a ton of casuals like it may actually
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  Speaker 1: be raked free of how many bad lineups are going
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  Speaker 1: to be put into this thing tonight with no clue.
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  Speaker 1: You are trading a little bit off. The same thing
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  Speaker 1: was to be said there, Well, you're without Gino and
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  Speaker 1: things could get a little bit tricky and the offense
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  Speaker 1: could shut down a little bit. It also could be
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  Speaker 1: just that much more condensed, you know it. You get
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  Speaker 1: it with JSN, with Lockett, and then if you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to put Barner in there something, so be it. But
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  Speaker 1: it was a way to get after it and your
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  Speaker 1: point of them having all their weapons on the other side,
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  Speaker 1: besides Pooka throwing punches at helmets like the worst move
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  Speaker 1: in football, it still went in pretty good. So let's say,
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  Speaker 1: what's up to the chat before we get into a
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  Speaker 1: couple other thing. Shut out to Michael Ortiz, always here,
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  Speaker 1: Crush had a pretty good week. I think had a
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  Speaker 1: couple of screenshots in there last week. Sean always putting
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  Speaker 1: in the work. Appreciate that. Kenny my man, Richie Smalls
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  Speaker 1: shut out to lsu Nick. I know it was a
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  Speaker 1: rough night. Already pumped him up in discord. One of
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  Speaker 1: the best players, one of the best DFS players. I
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  Speaker 1: know that most people probably don't, but really keeps putting
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  Speaker 1: in the work and I know he's gonna get there.
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  Speaker 1: And like I said to him, when you have a
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  Speaker 1: bad beat or a bad runout in DFS, that's part
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  Speaker 1: of your story. Slaying the dragon when you do, because
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  Speaker 1: it will happen, just makes it that much better because
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  Speaker 1: of what you had to overcome and go through. I've
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  Speaker 1: had some bad runouts. It is election day. We're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna hit the politicstock. You guys know that and shout
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  Speaker 1: out see the goat man, what's up? We gotta connect
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  Speaker 1: again soon. See I'm excited. I know football's busy, golf's busy,
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  Speaker 1: but we got to make it happen. Man, Love everything
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  Speaker 1: that you're doing all the time with your content coach
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  Speaker 1: sav Philly Fantom will round it out. Any grand scheme
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  Speaker 1: over you or anything you want to comment on their
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  Speaker 1: DJN and then if not, grand scheme over you for
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  Speaker 1: this late coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just this slate's a lot different than
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  Speaker 3: the past few weeks. We're back down to seven three split,
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  Speaker 3: only ten games on the main slate, a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: ugly ass offenses on this slate. So I think weeks
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  Speaker 3: like this there's more there's more reason to dive deep, right,
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  Speaker 3: there's not as many obvious choices to play, and I
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  Speaker 3: think you're gonna have to get slimy in a spot
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  Speaker 3: or two this week. You're not gonna build a lineup
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  Speaker 3: where you love all nine guys in it. So that's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be my initial take.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's important. Note too. Right, we're coming
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  Speaker 1: off twelve and thirteen game slates and the morning afternoon
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  Speaker 1: thing kind of out. Now it's say, what is it?
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  Speaker 1: A seven to three? So I mean maybe some early
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  Speaker 1: only stuff if you want to get to it, but
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  Speaker 1: we'll get there. Let's pop this thing up here real quick. First,
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  Speaker 1: it's cool story actually last week on what happened with
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  Speaker 1: the Lister League I'll show it off here first just
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  Speaker 1: so you guys can see it. If you're not in
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  Speaker 1: it yet for this week, just go over to my
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  Speaker 1: ex at Totag and Tambo or at ship at Nation.
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  Speaker 1: Follow us there. We appreciate it, like subscribe here on
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  Speaker 1: the YouTube channel, but that link will be there. It
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  Speaker 1: is two thousand entries. We filled it last week nicely,
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  Speaker 1: down to the wire again but we got it filled
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  Speaker 1: five dollars five max and it is completely rake free.
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  Speaker 1: The structure is the best in the business. Twelve fifty
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  Speaker 1: up top one hundred and fifty for ninth and tenth.
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  Speaker 1: Just a great balance structure across the board, best termam
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  Speaker 1: that can get into ten dollars min cash. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: to the winner from last week, and it's kind of funny.
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  Speaker 1: There is a bit of a story to it. I'll
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  Speaker 1: save it, but I see you. I see you at
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  Speaker 1: sixth place one of those lineups. Maybe talk to people
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  Speaker 1: first about your week and then we'll dissect krish dfs here.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, what did you win exactly and how
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  Speaker 1: did it go? I know there was some positives, always
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  Speaker 1: positive to win money, but you could have been here,
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  Speaker 1: could have been there, But overall just a fantastic week
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I had seventy percent of Lave,
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  Speaker 3: So right off the bat, you're already thinking, well, this
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  Speaker 3: week's cooked, because you know, he gets the concussion early
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  Speaker 3: and there goes seventy percent of your lineups. And then
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  Speaker 3: I also had about fifty percent London, who I guess
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  Speaker 3: you know, got hurt in the first quarter after catch
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  Speaker 3: in the touchdown. Matter of fact, two of my big ones,
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  Speaker 3: the two big lineups I had, they both had London,
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  Speaker 3: so they had even bigger upside. But you know, I
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  Speaker 3: just I kind of just hit four or five nice
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  Speaker 3: guys on the early part of the slate, and then
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  Speaker 3: I had a geno stack with with JSN and Cooper
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  Speaker 3: Cup run back, and all those guys were under eight
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  Speaker 3: percent owned. And so when all those guys kind of
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  Speaker 3: went ham, I just went from winning like six hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 3: I look back and I went in thirty five thousand,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm really not that far out from winning the
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  Speaker 3: millionaire maker. You know, who knows what happens if that
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  Speaker 3: bomb there to Cup at the end instead of DeMarcus Robinson,
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  Speaker 3: or if the Seahawks don't get you know, stuffed on
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  Speaker 3: that fourth down, they go down and score again. So
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  Speaker 3: I ended up winning the fifty dollars single entry, I
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  Speaker 3: got second the two hundred dollars single entry, and just
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of h there was another one that I
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  Speaker 3: finished way up there. Just a bunch of solid finishes. Sadly,
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  Speaker 3: if I had the right you know, the right lineups
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  Speaker 3: in the right contest, I would have won the three
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  Speaker 3: max for one hundred thousand. But you can't really do that,
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  Speaker 3: you know. I'm pretty random with where I put my lineups,
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  Speaker 3: so it just kind of worked out how it worked out.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, the best part is is my four
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  Speaker 3: straight year winning a GPP. And I know this sounds weird,
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  Speaker 3: but I enjoy winning the GPPs as much as I
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  Speaker 3: enjoy winning the money because winning GPPs is fucking hard.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. I mean, that's what the the people
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  Speaker 1: have to realize, right. We talked a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: it in the discord earlier, was speaking of lsu Nick,
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  Speaker 1: who's here. Just you know, in general, you do need
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of luck, for sure, but it's very
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  Speaker 1: rare that some of Yeah, I said it like this,
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  Speaker 1: people pop in all the time. They throw in a lineup.
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  Speaker 1: You see, as I shouldn say all the time, you'll
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  Speaker 1: see it. Somebody throws in a they get lucky. Guess
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  Speaker 1: what then they think that was skilled and they go
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  Speaker 1: bomb away all that money versus the skilled players get
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  Speaker 1: unlucky a lot. But it's because they have the chance
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  Speaker 1: to get lucky and then when they do. That's why,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, here took halfway through the year, but
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  Speaker 1: my streak of taking down an NFLGF GPP continues another year.
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  Speaker 1: Let's enjoy continuing playing with the house money for the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the year. And it was like thirty five
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  Speaker 1: K plus all across the board. I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: if you have them all in there. I saw some
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  Speaker 1: other ones that maybe you couldn't feature with the four
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  Speaker 1: max limit on X. But do you set any goals
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  Speaker 1: for the year yourself? Like I'm a big goal center.
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  Speaker 1: I set out things for the year. But do you
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  Speaker 1: do you set like is that your main goal just
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  Speaker 1: try and win an NFL GPP since that's hard enough
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  Speaker 1: in itself, or do you have certain goals for different sports?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's funny, you know, we have the big
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  Speaker 3: guy chat over it ship at guys that have been
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  Speaker 3: kind of following me all the way back to my
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  Speaker 3: DJ and seventy five days, and they've started calling me
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  Speaker 3: discipline seventy five because I actually only play about fifty
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year in NFL. I budget about three
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars a week, and so that come and I
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  Speaker 3: only play usually those first seventeen weeks, so it comes
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  Speaker 3: up to almost exactly fifty thousand dollars. And my goal
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  Speaker 3: is is every year to try to be a you know,
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  Speaker 3: get a good ROI on my investment. Twenty percent is
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  Speaker 3: always my goal. And so you know that means I
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  Speaker 3: need to get about sixty thousand back in my fifty thousand.
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  Speaker 3: That's been my goal just as a guy for the
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  Speaker 3: past four or five years that started to become a
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  Speaker 3: for profit player.
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  Speaker 2: And I do that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't just go shoot all these you know, my
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  Speaker 3: name may indicate I've just shoot off all these random lineups.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty disciplined and I want to win and be
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  Speaker 3: a player that plays with an edge. And so now
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  Speaker 3: you know, I've already crossed that fifty thousand dollars threshold.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm already guaranteed a winning season this year. Just
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  Speaker 3: based on my previous weeks in this week, so you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm playing with the houses money for the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the year. I'm not going to change my process. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to change how much I buy him for.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to keep playing the same contest. I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to keep following my process and hopefully continue maybe to
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  Speaker 3: hit one more big week. I try to hit two
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  Speaker 3: big weeks a year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that and the irony that the d
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  Speaker 1: N degenerate stands for discipline, but it is so important
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  Speaker 1: and I always talk about this, but discipline greater than motivation.
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  Speaker 1: Like you can have all the motivation in the world,
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  Speaker 1: but if you can't get up and do you if
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  Speaker 1: you don't actually go do it, put in the work.
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  Speaker 1: You know my mantra, nobody cares where hard it's that's
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  Speaker 1: the thing, right, win or lose. You got to get
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  Speaker 1: up the next day and get back at it. Other
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  Speaker 1: people are the people you're up against, are doing that.
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  Speaker 1: So I love that you broke it down that way.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you sharing. This is speaking of sharing the
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  Speaker 1: lineup of the you're sharing the win winning lineup story
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  Speaker 1: from the Big Guy last week. We already showed you
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  Speaker 1: it here you can go join it completely. Rake free
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  Speaker 1: check that out.
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  Speaker 2: But k rish.
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  Speaker 1: DFS two hundred and thirty one point five to two
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  Speaker 1: Gino JSN the run back with Cup some chalk pieces right,
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  Speaker 1: just Kamara, Chase Brown, Meers, Gaseki. You got the two
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  Speaker 1: in the Sincy side, the one on the Vegas side,
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  Speaker 1: you got Kamara chalk locket finished out the the JSN
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  Speaker 1: triple stack with Gino and then the Cardinals d just
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  Speaker 1: an awesome lineup. Thoughts on this as it took down
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  Speaker 1: in a blowout two thirty one to two fourteen, and
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  Speaker 1: he did do some more damage with it as well,
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  Speaker 1: But I'll let you comments on it first.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you can eat that chocolate running back
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  Speaker 3: Kamara and Brown. You know this has been a big thing.
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  Speaker 3: I've changed my mind on the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: I like chalk running backs. I don't care about their percentage.
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  Speaker 3: I will get different with my stacks. I will get
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  Speaker 3: different with the way I construct my lineup. But like
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  Speaker 3: good running backs, are good running backs in the NFL,
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  Speaker 3: and they're usually there because they're going to get a
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  Speaker 3: lot of volume, They're going to be in a good matchup,
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna have high usage and I'll eat that chalk,
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  Speaker 3: So you know, I don't mind him eating that chalk
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  Speaker 3: at all. I love the Geno double stack with the
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  Speaker 3: cup run back and then you know, like the Meyers
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  Speaker 3: Gasiki correlation there from that game. He basically went and
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  Speaker 3: grabbed the proper two pieces from my second favorite game.
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  Speaker 3: And I think he also had that lineup for like
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  Speaker 3: forty thousand dollars too, if I remember, because I was
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  Speaker 3: seeing him at the top of leaderboards.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. He had the opposite two v two
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  Speaker 1: of what I landed on. So it's always fun when
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  Speaker 1: the members figured out more than I can. And I
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  Speaker 1: love this stuff. This is great. One hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 1: five dollars into over forty four thousand, including the Ultimate
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  Speaker 1: Prestige forget the second place for forty k you won
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  Speaker 1: the Big Guy twelve hundred and fifty bucks. It's all
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  Speaker 1: the glory you blew them out. I mean, that's what
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  Speaker 1: it's all about, right, But I actually had instead of
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  Speaker 1: JSN and who was oh JSN and the Goeski chalk
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  Speaker 1: was It made sense because he already had differentiator spots
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  Speaker 1: in there with Locket, JSN, GINO, and Kupp. That whole
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  Speaker 1: stack was different. That's why you can get away with
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  Speaker 1: the chalk. But I played Barner and I played London
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  Speaker 1: as a piece of that Atlanta Dallas game, I kind
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  Speaker 1: of wanted to get a piece there and then I
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  Speaker 1: had that. Did not see this till after, So congrats.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. I always say the puzzle
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  Speaker 1: pieces right, talk about the mindset. The puzzle that we
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  Speaker 1: talk about is you don't know the puzzle till it
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  Speaker 1: flips over after. I feel pretty stupid. I see it
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, that made perfect sense. But things happened,
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  Speaker 1: injuries happened. I'm in London, had a good start to
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  Speaker 1: that game. You never know, one of those touchdowns from
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  Speaker 1: JSN goes to Barner and I'm never gonna say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I should have done this, should have done that. There's
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  Speaker 1: always little things that you can look at, and we
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  Speaker 1: talked a little bit about it on the Takedown breakdown.
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  Speaker 1: But congrats to k risch DFS. All right, quickly, here
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• 12:48
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  Speaker 1: You talked about it before. The funniest part here is Kenny,
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  Speaker 1: you can't say the receiver. The receiver slate is hideous.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you know that DeAndre Hopkins is going to duplicate
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  Speaker 1: last night's performance perfectly this week at just fifty three
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  Speaker 1: hundred dollars, and so of course everyone has to play
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: mahomes with them as well. This could be great, could
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: be good for us. But Djen, you already gave your overview.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: I am doing a true first look as usual, but
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  Speaker 1: I love it because we got the stones so we
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: can have the grades. We could see how much they passed.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: That was another thing, by the way, your call last
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  Speaker 1: week Gino was like seventy five percent or seventy nine percent,
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: Like all they do is past the ball in Yet
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker still ran in a bunch and had his opportunities.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: But Gino still crushes it with his guys on just
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: twenty team points for Seattle are point that we always
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: bring up that it's not about team points, it's about
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  Speaker 1: fantasy points. But I'll kick it to you on this one.
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  Speaker 1: Patriots Bears, and then anything else you want to add
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  Speaker 1: before that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, never forget.
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  Speaker 3: Js N had two forty yard catches called back too,
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: so that's another ten points he lost right there. Yeah,
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: all right, so we're starting with the Patriots and the Bears.
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  Speaker 3: I just I can't Caleb Williams like I want to believe,
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: but like when he has those three receivers, I mean really,
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: even with Coleknet getting going now, he has four options
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: he's throwing to. It's never clear. Basically, the only Bear
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: I've been playing every week has been DeAndre Swift. I
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: feel like he's a good way to get a piece
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: of a you know, a slightly above average offense. But
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: I just don't trust Kayleb Williams right now. And even
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: if I did, I would not trust him to stack
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: because I don't know who he's gonna throw to. Weirdly enough,
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: if you made me pick, I would take Drake May
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: and some of his cheap ass wide receivers here over
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: Caleb Williams and some of his more namely wide receivers.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a couple on that note. I'm I always,
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: I mean Rio Hebrew Cheta, A bunch of us in
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: the discord, myself included. We always will make fun of
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit the air yards conversation because obviously it's like, well,
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: how do we know? But some other sites out there
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: have been good and you know, with data and been
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: able to piece together uncatchable air yards, like stop talking
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  Speaker 1: about it if it's not even a catchable ball. And
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  Speaker 1: two of the guys in the top ten I'll probably
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: make the tidbits this week. But two of the guys
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: in the top ten, I think it was rome o'doonza
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen are both there like they're getting with
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: all look at all like Caleb's airing it out to them.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: None of the balls are catchable, so it doesn't actually matter,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: and those little things do add up, they mean something
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  Speaker 1: at that point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't catch it when it's six yards out
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  Speaker 2: of bounds.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, so they're not actually getting what you think they are.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: The other thing I was gonna ask is just I
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: don't know, like it's a pretty good matchup for Swift.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I think people typically if they can't find it, we
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: have to see. But when they get to a value price,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: they just love what he's been doing. Lots of good opportunities,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: things like that. Feel comfortable there one hundred dollars less.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: On the other side is the guy that just scores
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: TD's NonStop. What's your thoughts on Romandre Steve anything at all?
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  Speaker 1: Even as an underdog.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the Patriot I don't think the Bears
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  Speaker 3: are that good. I think this is going to be
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: a super competitive game, and competitive games. Ramondre Stevenson, when
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: he doesn't fumble, is kind of a badass. Like when
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  Speaker 3: the Patriots play well, it's usually when he's playing well.
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  Speaker 3: So I think, you know, twenty twenty five points is
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: definitely in the range of outcomes Formandre Stevenson, and I
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: have to assume with him being on the road against
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  Speaker 3: the perceived solid defense and the Bears, he's probably going
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: to be less than eight percent owned.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so starting a new segment, not really but randomly
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  Speaker 1: it called checks notes first note Pats plus six and
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  Speaker 1: a half. We'll see where that goes by the end
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: of the week. But I think, like you said, definitely
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: a chance they stay in this game more than people think.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: So I like that call out early on. I've got
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: nothing else to add with that one. Let's keep it moving.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the Bills at the Colts first thoughts here.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: The other big thing with this one, just to note quickly,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: is obviously Anthony Richardson hitting the bench for what they
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: say is the foreseeable future like the whole season. Maybe
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is the guy, so interesting stuff. But Joe
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Flacco will show up when we get out of the
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: shell and the skeleton and to tomorrow when we do
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  Speaker 1: our first initial stone an update, but just it loads
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  Speaker 1: from the site, the team site. What's your thoughts on
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: the Colts at home versus the Bills.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like I want to believe I love the
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Dome game I love that, you know, this is one
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  Speaker 3: of the bigger totals on the slate, but like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Flacco didn't look good against the Vikings. You know, I
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: think the Vikings defense is probably top five in the NFL.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: But like they I just don't think the Colts are
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: that good. Rather you have Flacco or Richardson in there,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: they're not that good. The Bills typically play good defense.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: They've had like two bad games of pass defense all year,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: but I think that they're good enough to shut down
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: the Colts. And then sadly, Josh Allen is is like
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, Like who am I going to stack him with?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: You know, like especially if Cooper plays now you know,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Shakour Cooper Kinka. There's just too many mouths to feed,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: and he doesn't spread it around enough and they run
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: the ball too damn much. If anything, I would probably
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: be most interested in, like a James Cook, even though
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Ray Davis seems to be kind of getting an annoying
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: amount of carries recently.
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  Speaker 1: So I actually wonder that's a great call. First of all,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, you don't you didn't have your Josh Allen quintin,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Morris mccollins stacks. You didn't know that that was gonna
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: be the thing. Come on, Cooper was out. You gotta
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: know how to stack these guys. And that's the ridiculousness
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: obviously of stacking a guy like Josh Allen. Everyone said,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: just play him naked. That's fine, But then a bunch
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: of other quarterbacks in that range get there too, and
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: then the cheap quarterbacks just keep coming through because the
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: price bad. But I do like the James Cook call,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: only because I know Ray Davis was involved more. And
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: but think about he had a one what do you
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: have a checkdown touchdown that he took for sixty three
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: yards and that's incredible. And I know people with their
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: best ball bags and probably including yourself, other people took him.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: You could get him really late. That's awesome, that's good stuff.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying you have to imagine outside of the
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: best ball pricing, he's not the nice price of sixty
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: nine hundred dollars. He's seven k flat. But this is
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: a really good matchup for them. They are favorited, they
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: are twenty six points. Is nothing to look away. So
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: on my side of the notes, I'm writing a little
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: James Cook. I just can't imagine at the end of
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the week people have any interest in him because of
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: all the other factors and we have to see. But
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: just a little note that I thought of right away.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: As far as the Flacco side goes, I guess these
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: guys hurt some feelings last week. I know that it
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: was the sun that night football game, which is included
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: on fan duel we play showdown for it for DraftKings.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: But really disappointing from a you know, Flacco, Downs Pittman perspective.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Everybody was playing those guys and you know, nobody really
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: came through. Is there anything else you have to add on?
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I know you mentioned, you know, Flacco not really making
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a huge difference there, but just if they are gonna
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: have to chuck in this, could you see any of
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: those guys as a one off or maybe a secondary
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: stack with James Cook if I was interested.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Josh Downs is the one that I would
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I would consider. He seems to be the player who
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: gets enhanced the most on Flacco plays. But sixty two
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars to me is kind of like, you know,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: getting up to elite pricing for wide receivers. I mean,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: like there's a lot of good receivers that you can
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: be getting for six thousand dollars. So I don't know
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: that I'm jumping up and down to get Josh downs
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: in my lineup. It's sixty two hundred.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Some good comments Caleb and Pickens. Now you can add
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy to that too. By the way, after last
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: night of catching the balls at a bounds counting for something,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you know, bears blew it again they could have had Daniels. Yeah,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and Colt should learn their lesson after Trent flopped? Yeah,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: what what about Taylor? Quick? And then we'll move on
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  Speaker 1: to the next game.
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  Speaker 3: Man, the guy's gonna have a big week eventually. I
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: just don't I just don't know when it's gonna come.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't want to pay seventy five hundred dollars
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: guessing when it's gonna happen.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't know for me either. Early on, he's definitely
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: not on thinking of the downs. One I actually agree with, Like,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: obviously he gets snaps, he can get targets, he's better
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: with Flacco, et cetera, et cetera. You can make all
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: these cases, but sixty two hundred is a bit up there. Again,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: if it's an ugly wide receiver slate, though, maybe make
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: a quick note of that and just see how the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: week shakes out, because that's something I'd be looking at. Right.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It's expensive, it definitely doesn't feel right, but sometimes that's
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: the way it goes. Vikings at the Jags. Ugly games,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: man ugly games. But this one, the Vikings have almost
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: a twenty six point team total. So talk to me
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: about this game. Aaron Jones sixty seven hundred. But passing
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: game probably looks a little bit more appetizing, right.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would be more interested in the
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Jag side of this. I mean Trevor Lawrence has become
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: pretty good at fantasy. As long as they're down twenty
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: one points and its garbage time in the second half,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: you know you're gonna look. He'll have two points at
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: halftime and then he'll somehow finish with twenty three. Brian
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Thomas being back, you could tell he wasn't one hundred percent.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: If he gets Gape Davis back this week and he has,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas is getting back to it closer to one
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: hundred percent, he might be a guy that I consider stacking,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: just because I like cheap quarterbacks. They don't have to
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: do a lot to pay off that price tag. And
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: you have some lovely runbacks with the Vikings, with Jordan
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Addison and of course Justin Jefferson or even Aaron Jones. Right,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: So this sadly, this is the kind of week it
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: is that this is one of the early games I'm
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: considering for my stacks.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna say to you, I certainly
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: could see a sneaky game thing hopping in here. And
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I'll ask you this too, because is why I love
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the Stone. I see the paces bad, horrible actually on
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: both sides. But I think again, we pointed this out
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: last week, probably have new viewers this week, people watching
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: it on playback finding it, et cetera. Remember, though, you
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: also have two really bad pass defenses, two very mediocre
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: at best quarterbacks. Yes, some they've had better games than
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: others certain weeks, et cetera, et cetera. I get it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying in general, but don't you see a
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: spot here where that could almost be what changes that
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: pace to the opposite because they both get it going
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: through the air and all of a sudden, big catch,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: you splash play there a little bit of a back
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: and forth of the mediocrity and next thing you know,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you got yourself a pretty good game. Is that kind
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: of how you see it happening?
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I mean that ram Seahawks game had horrific pace and
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, right before half, Gino gets
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: a couple of big plays and then that game just
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: kind of takes off offensively, right, So, like you, all
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: it takes is a big player too, even with poorly
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: paced teams, and the pace of a game can completely
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: take off and go in a direction that you're not expecting.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: So yeah, and it's correlated too, right that justin Jefferson
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: catches a sixty yard touchdown and then all of a sudden,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas catches a sixty yard touchdown. This game could
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: be off to the races in the second quarter.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: What is the biggest total on the slate right now?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Is it the Falcon Saints or what are we that?
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I don't even Yeah, I mean there's a bunch right
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: around that. I think the forty nine ers Bucks at
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: forty eight is going to be the biggest.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to get a quick glance. I thought,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: like I tell everybody'm always going to first of this,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: So this has forty seven and a half right now
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: on my book, forty nine ers Tampa Bay is fifty
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: and a half. So we'll get there, don't worry. And
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: then yeah, I mean it's it's not looking good. So
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: this may get a little bit of steamer or get
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: people there a little bit. But I think it's the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: other part. That's what I was going to bring up,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: is what you nailed it with that ram Seahawks game.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: The pace thing there and all that. What did it
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: finish twenty three to twenty.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, they cut that touchdown in overtimes. I think
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: it's twenty six twenty.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Six, Yeah, twenty six to twenty. And so there's the
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: whole point again, it didn't matter what the points both
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: sides put up. It's the fantasy points they put up,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: like I keep harping on, and that's the same thing
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: you could see here in this game. So I like
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that call. I think there's gonna be some plays within
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: this one. We'll see if people get there by the
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: end of the week. But I think it's definitely something
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to keep in mind. Let's talk about this next week.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: We just watched the Chiefs play again another win last night,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: but talked about it already. DeAndre Hopkins fifty three hundred,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Mahomes only sixty six hundred for a mainslam. I think
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: is that the lowest this year?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: So funny, I've never seen him.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Sixty eight was where we were at last time. I think,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: so he's dropped to sixty six now. On the other side,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: bo Nick's got a root awakening. We talked about that
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: last week. Not many people wanted to hear it. I
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: know Mayo wasn't feeling it. Aaron Rasmus on Sunday Show
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't feeling it in the chat. Like I said, just
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the Ravens. This is what they do. They lose that
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: game to the Browns, they come home and beat up
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: on somebody who everyone thinks is good for a minute,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and that's exactly what they did. We'll talk more about
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: them on Thursday for the Thursday Night Football Slate because
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: it's another AFC North battle, them at home versus Burrow
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and Co. But let's talk about this one. Bronco's at
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs, a division game in itself.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Mahomes, Hopkins, Kelsey, double stacks. It's gonna
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: be pretty popular. It's like the most affordable double stack
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: you've ever seen with Mahomes. He really does seem to
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: be if you go off last night's game, he really
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: does seem to be concentrating his usage to those two guys.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: So to me, the natural play I'm gonna want to
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: do is come in and grab Kareem Hunt. Hope he
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: gets a hundred yards and a touchdown or two, and
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: he's the one that controls this game. And not only
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: am I probably going to get him at discounted ownership
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: because people be playing mahomes, but he'll also be counterfeiting
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: that Mahomes pass stack. So that's how I like to
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: usually play games like this.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like you quite a bit. Don't really care
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: as much about matchup as like you said, nine point
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: favorite at home, who did a great job I think
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: last night breaking it down talking about you know, he's
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: been talking about the Detroit stuff all season because he's
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: a Lions homer, but he really did relay it to
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: another team and it made perfect sense, Like that was
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: kind of what was happening last night and the reason
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay could stay in that game because both teams
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: let's play an ugly game, and it wasn't just the weather.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's more of what we're seeing in
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the NFL now, the other coaches that know, hey, my
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: job's on the line, I gotta protect this thing. Let's
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: just keep this thing as close as we can so
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: maybe we have a chance. And then of course Todd
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Bowles blows it completely by not going for two at
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the end to at least give himself that shot. But
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: they get what they get. That's the karma, I guess
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: for the turnaround. But nine point favorites here, I'm inclined
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to think that too. I know it will be said
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: all week is they got to get there before the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: bullet happens. They got to get there somehow. It would
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: be through Mahomes, be through Hopkins, be through Kelsey. But
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I like your call there with Kareem Hunt, I think
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: it's just fine. By the way Derrick Henry, I know
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: he's a different back than Kareem Hunt, but pretty good
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: week for himself against these Broncos last week, regardless of
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the current scorecard, for their repord report card, I should
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: say for their rush d anything on that Broncos side
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: at all that stands out. I know Courtland Sutton, the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: garbage time last week really helped him, but he was
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: already fine. I think he was doing great, and that
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: just added on what do you expect if they're down,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: they're gonna throw them all?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this is this is I'm not a big
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: fan of playing guys from teams that have sixteen point totals,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: especially when bo Nix is the one that has to
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: throw in the ball, and this Chiefs defense is pretty Legit.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Just made me think of that. Then. I mean, that's
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the other thing. You could also just get away from
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: that trio and pair up a combo and do a
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: little Kareem hunt Chiefs Steve, not that you have to,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: just saying that, I'd be another way to get after
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: it and hope it leans in that direction. The falcons
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: of the Saints I thought would have been bigger, but
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: let me just go see it here. It's actually less
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: than that Jacksonville Minnesota game, which is somewhat interesting, but
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I guess still it's it's just it's Kirk Cousins, It's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the Saints. You know, we can see what's gonna happen here.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: But let's let's talk about this one because maybe this
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: could be sneaky good. But what's your thoughts on this one.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, this feels like one of those games is
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: going to be popular. You know, it's gonna be in
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: the Dome. You've got decently concentrated offenses. I haven't heard
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: what's up with Drake London. I imagine he would be back
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: right and if he is, I think, you know, he's
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: a pretty good play on the Saints side. Kamara getting
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: over eight thousand, oh, that's that's like, that's a pretty
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: big number.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: A lot's obviously going to be out.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: So I think that the Saints wide receivers are almost
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: useless at this point, you know, trying to find one
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: of these cheap guys that's gonna fill in and do it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, maybe it's Hedrick Wilson, but you know I
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I I'll probably stick away from that. If anything, I'll
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: be grabbing a falcon or two and probably not stacking
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: this game.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what's gonna happen here, because I mean,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: this is eighty one hundred for Kamari came through again
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: last week. There's a ton of good tidbits and stats
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: out on him for all the catches that he's been getting,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and now you take out another guy can't imagine. Look,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: who was it there last week? Somebody who cleared the
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: concussion protocol and like record time somebody somebody.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Oh wait, was it was it Tracy?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think, oh yes, yeah, Tracy Junior, That's who
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: it was. And everyone's like, how the hell did he
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: clear that that quickly and get back into this thing.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to be the case.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Alave just got absolutely crushed. Unfortunate. I saw some insane takes.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: It's why somebody's got to stay off ex Twitter, whatever
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you wanna call it on Sundays, like oh, he's so
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: he's he's such an exciting player, but he can never
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: stay like how does he stay healthy? He got crammed,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: like what did he wrong? He plays football, That's what happened.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: And then obviously some funny takes kind of kind of
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: funny I guess from like Michael Thomas and going in
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Mike Thomas and people. I think it was his brother
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: or something to talking to h Derek Carr about how
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: he just throws up hospital balls and crushes his own teammates.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, hip pointer on Drake London on the other side,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I guess where I was going with it off the
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: top was if Kamara stays popular, what about just going
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to Bijon on the other side, who looks like the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: real deal. I mean, yes, Algier took another one from
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: him last week, but this season has clearly clearly not
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: been as bad as what we saw in previous seasons
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: where it was like, oh my god, he's getting robbed
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: every single time. Just please use him. He looks real
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: good man at seventy seven hundred, not a bad price,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and on the opposite side of Kamara in a pretty
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: good matchup himself here.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of times whenever I'm building my lineup,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: so I'll put a rule in that the lineup must
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: contain either Bijon or London because it seems like one
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: of those two guys are destined to go off every week.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: They're usually priced very appropriately.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: I see Bijon got a little bit of a bump,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: but I'm usually pretty comfortable playing paying low seven thousands
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: for Beijon and I'm all always comfortable playing in the
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: six thousands for London. So I love having one of
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: those two guys in there, because the Falcons really do
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: seem to deliver on offense.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mooney, I mean London should be back anyway, so
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I ought to see I mean a hit pointer. I'm
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: expecting him to be good. But mooney, McLeod pants, these
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: guys all still seem to get a little bit of action.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: So I think, you know, if I was doing anything here,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I would be more inclined on the Falcon side. Maybe
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that is the popular side, and that's fine. I know
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: that the Saints will be without certain guys, so you
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: could say, oh, it tightens up a little bit there
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: all of that, But still I think there's other ways
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that you could build within this game. So I'll wait
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and see as we get closer to the weekend. But
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: certainly interesting to talk about right now. Good, good breakdown there.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the big total, the one that we
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: talked about. So this is the mostly swayed by the way,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: because it's a six point road favorite in the forty
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: nine Ers against the Buccaneers. Buccaneers, I would say a
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: bit of a letdown after last night, certainly had their opportunity,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: great game, played a great game until it was too late.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: But Buccaneers at home here against the forty nine ers.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: First thoughts, Also, what's the no I don't think he's back, right,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Christian mccaffre.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: There was like I thought I heard they were aiming
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: for a week ten bounce back.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: It's but are they actually gonna do it? Is what
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the latest?
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I bet he's back with limited snaps. I think, I think,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I think we'll see him this week. We'll see maybe
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: somebody in the chat knows. But last I heard he
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: was aiming for week ten.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all like speculation articles still, but that is
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: what they said last week. And then there was like
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: a follow up I remember seeing. That's why I brought
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: it up like that, where it was like, oh, they're
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: gonna try and see now, but this is you know,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: he can come back this week. So I don't know.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: We'll wait on that news, but for now, let's just
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: go with, you know, everything else we know here forty
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: nine ers at the Buccaneers. Thoughts on this one.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I think rather McCaffrey plays are not.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I think brock Parties probably just feels like the best
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: stackable quarterback on this slate right now, you know, with
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: with with a being out and Jennings, I don't know
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: what if Jawan Jennings is gonna be back this week,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: but you're gonna have a concentrated passing tree there for party.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: You know, if it's Kittle, if you have like Kittle
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: to choose from, and you have Debo and and and
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: maybe uh Ricky pearsall or something like that's something I
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: want to get in on, because that's not that it
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: was expensive of the stacks. You're getting a good price total.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: And I think the Bucks have really good runback options
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: with like Kate Ott and stuff like that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the latest So this was twenty two hours ago,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: and there's for some reason of Brian Harmon video in
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: here talking about Lucas Glover. I have no clue why
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: this is football, but the San Francisco forty nine ers
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: are gearing up to boost their offense with running back CMC,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: wide receiver Juwan Jennings and kicker Moody back at returning
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: to practice coming off a bye week, holding a bonus
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: session today to prepare sorry for a Week ten matchup
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So that'll be an interesting
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: one definitely.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: You know that, you know that kicker loves being mentioned
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: in that article with those other two studs.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's correct. He was a stud in his own
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: right to start the season and then he had what
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: do you have jury duty or something and still ended
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: up playing all that. But yeah, this is where they did.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: So Tim's point here, it wasn't like contradicting. It's just
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: like they made the excitement about week ten and then
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: it was like, he'll be back at practice in week ten,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: so we'll see. Like that's what they do, right, That's
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: that's fine. It's the you know, that's how Shanahan and
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: his squad like to do it, and that's okay. But
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I do like that call out the party side of things.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Anything more on the Bucks side with the you know,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: anything you saw out of these guys last night, just
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: from these backups, I mean, it did not look good
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: getting the ball, like to Shephard Palmer, Miller, our boy,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: rakeem the dream Jared, Like, these guys just were not
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: getting into the mix as much as you might think.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Miller did catch that touchdown late, but he dropped two
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: balls that were important earlier before that, so it was
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: just sort of a product of how the game ended.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: But anything else on that side that you want to
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: talk about.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the one wide receiver I would
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: consider from the Bucks would be Jaylen McMillan, but that's
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: if he's even going to be back. You know, he
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: was in active last night, so he would have to
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: be back. And I think Kate Auton is like literally
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: like a top four tight end right now in DFS.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: So even at fifty five hundred, I think you got
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: to consider him because Baker throws the shit, throws the
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: ball to him all the time.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Would you consider With that said, I was just gonna
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: ask you about this actually, because you already mentioned Kittle,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: these guys are still priced too low I think for
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: what they are, especially if they're certain injuries. Now it
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: depends on the Kittle one because of if all those
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: guys come back, it makes a little bit trickier. But
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: just on the Bucks side, like fifty five hundred, he
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: even if McMillan comes back, he's still a wide receiver
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: one or two depending on how the game plays out.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Would you consider playing those two together in the stack.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're talking double tight ends, I hardly ever
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: double tight end stack, and like especially two pay up options.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: And to me, when you get over five thousand dollars
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: at tight end, that's a premium. And the way I
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: build my lineups is just no way I could afford
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: to five K plus tight ends, so I wouldn't be
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: double stacking them.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Now I might if it's in the game. The only
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: thing I would say about that is the difference is like,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: so you got away with it again last week, no problem,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: because Gaseeki was basically a wide receiver with no Higgins
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: and he was only thirty one hundred. He was basically
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: the stone minimum minus. You can play twenty five hundred
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: dollars tight ends, but typically three K and above is
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: what we're thinking. At thirty one hundred. That made a
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: little more sense. I guess it's close because I think
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: it's more fair than it is good. Like it's like
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: a it's not really what I want to do. I'm
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: with you on that. It's just if you were doing
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: it at least I would understand it being within a
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: game stack in this game as a way to get different.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: But that's something I'm stretching to do. I certainly think
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: like Purty with some receiving options and Aughton on the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: other side, or when you're not playing OT and you
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: go to Kittle and hopefully McMillan back, maybe him being
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: back is what just changes this offense a little bit
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: better for him and the other guys. We'll have to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: wait and see, but certainly a game that people will
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: be talking about. We'll wait and see more news on
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: that as the week goes on. Move on, go to
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Steelers at the Commanders. No, what's the total here? Forty
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: six ish for this one, So yeah, give me give
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: me your thoughts on this game, because this is uh man.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels is always an option here, but yeah, I
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: don't know how this one plays out. I'm curious to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: get your thoughts.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, the Steelers are of a really good defense,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: but I also think Jayden Daniels is almost defensive proof.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Like I think he's going to get you twenty points
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: minimum against anybody just because of how fucking good he is.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: But I still just find him almost impossible to stack, right.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can play with Terry McLaurin, and that's
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: like basically it like that you're spending a lot of
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: money on that combo and you basically are relying on
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: either one hundred yard bonus with Tink just or a
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: touchdown or two for McLaurin. And I don't know that
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: you want to count on that every week on the
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: flip side. I don't know how much the Steelers would
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: really push this game. George Pickens would be the obvious
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: run back. It's sixty eight hundred. You're spending a lot
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: of money on that, on a game that I think
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: could be kind of a slog with both these defenses
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: being better than people think they are. So at some point,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: you know, I just got to ask myself, do I
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: want to spend that much money on my primary.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: My primary stacks? And I don't know that I want to.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think I want to either. I think actually
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: just first thoughts early is the Pickens one off. You know,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: there's no such thing as do it's every week is different.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: It's all that. But I mean, just the guy literally
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: has had so many touchdowns called back and they're they're
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: getting the ball to them and they can do that.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: So I guess it's it's a tough wide receiver slate.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: If I landed at sixty eight hundred and played him,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I think I'm fine with it. It's not something I'm
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: stretching to do. But it's, like I said, just so
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: hard to stack up the Jade and Daniels stuff. I
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: played him naked last week. And it did not work
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: out because I had just other pieces of a lot
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: of injury things like that. But just if you want
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: to play him in a higher stakes, smaller field, I
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: think you can always count on him to do something.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: For Sevie Honor, I think last week was probably a
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: floor outcome at around nineteen points. But like you said,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: two with McLaurin even to said, well, it's easy to
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: stack him up McLaurin and or Ertz. Okay, but is
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: he getting two touchdowns again? And by the way, he
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: got two touchdowns and still wasn't even near any of
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the winning lineups anything you needed to be optimal, anything
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: like that whatsoever. So it's just one of those things.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: It's really tough to make it happen. So I'll think
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: about pickens, but not too much for me. Within that game.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Chargers at home versus the Titans with a lowest I've
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: seen in a while, at least fifteen point team total.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: So Chargers at home versus the Titans.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, let's not forget the Chargers. I mean
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Herbert have you seen his passing stats the last three weeks.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: I mean he's averaging almost three hundred yards of game
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: passing through the air. So the whole narrative that the
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Chargers are just running the shit out of the ball
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: isn't isn't necessarily true. They actually have a pretty functional
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: offense right now and the Titans do not. So I
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: if anything, I feel like people maybe going a little
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: overboard with the Herbert thing, and it may be a
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: good time to jump back on JK.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Dobbins.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, Lad McConkie with that best
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: buy pricing in fifty nine hundred also looks pretty nice.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: So that's gonna be a tough one. And then justin
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Herbert at fifty two hundred, I mean, if he's gonna
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: pass for two touchdowns and three hundred yards, he's going
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: to deliver on that fifty two hundred dollars price tag.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Quentin Johnson is the the lg TV
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: price Lad McConkie, the Sony like fifty nine hundred, forty
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: nine hundred, They got the best buy specials out in
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: full full fledgend. I mean, of course Herbert's looking a
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: lot better. You have an amazing wide receiver corps like
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Lad McConkie, Joshua Palmer and Quinton Johnston that is what
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: studs are made of. So I guess if you wanted
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to go to something like this, you could do. So
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: it's you know, tricky here, this game, like the Titans side,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: regardless of who starts at quarterback, it's always just so cheap,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: and then there's super cheap pieces with it. It seems
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: like Westbrook a Keene gets in the box every single week,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: he's like Romandre Stevenson at wide receiver for less than
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: four K. But it's like, then what do you do
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: with that? Maybe a Dobbins Westbrook key mini stack and look,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: fifteen points doesn't really matter. If he gets you, you know,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: five for eighty in a touchdown, that's still solid. So
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: anything else you could possibly make of this tight inside
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: or you just want to move on?
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a game. These are the kind of
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: games I usually just mark off, so we can move on.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: All right, let's do that. Let's go to the Jets
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: at the Cardinals. I don't know, you can usually speak
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: a few words on Kyler Murray, so maybe start there
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: and then take us through.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: This one isn't call of duty out by now and
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: he's still playing. Great, what the hell's going on?
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah? It did come out. It was a October twenty
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: sixth I think it was the release date. So he's
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: still in the mix here in sixty three hundred, which
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: is a little bit, you know tough. It's crazy to say.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's too expensive or too cheap.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: It's hard to tell with the way his games go,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: but I guess you could say it's fair. And then
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Connor still getting a ton of work. You know, you
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: can start to look at some of these stacks. McBride,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: by the way, right in the middle of that or
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: in the same range of that price. I think he's
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: between because it was what fifty eight hundred and fifty five, Yeah,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: fifty eight and fifty five for at McBride, right in
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the middle. So thoughts on the Cardinal's side and then
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: take us through this game with the Jets on the
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: other side.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, Trey McBride does seem to be coming to life.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: If I were going to play at Kyler Stack, I
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: would probably want to get him in there. With Trey McBride,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I just have been shocked how inefficient Marmon Harrison Junior
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: has been, and to pay sixty four hundred for that
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: inefficiency is just really hard. I think I'd rather just
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: pay up for Trey McBride and then running it back
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: with the Jets. You know, Breesehall just he's he's going
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: to have a big game. He kind of gets lost
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: every now and then, but like he would be the
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: obvious run back to me if I were doing that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: You know, Garrett Wilson had that big game with a
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: crazy catch. But I'm telling you there's just enough people
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: out there, you know, with with with Davante and Conklin
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: and Mike Williams just that I don't think you're going
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: to consistently get those twenty five point outcomes from Garrett
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Wilson that you kind of need to win GBP. So
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I'm a little cold on the Jets except for Breese Hall.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And the tricky part is how expensive everything is now,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Like even if you wanted to say Rogers and whatever. Like,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I know people say he can't do it, but there's
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: multiple weeks where he's been close. Last week he did
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: his three touchdowns by the way, which I was told
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: it was impossib but it's actually three hundred and three
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: that is impossible. So I'm waiting for him to hit
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: that still. But we'll see. But either way fifty seven hundred.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Even if you liked that and you liked the matchup
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: and you thought this is going to be a back
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and forth inside in Arizona and the dome all this
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: other stuff, it's really tough because then the receivers, you
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: got to pick between those two Wilson and Adams, and
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: then you got to pay seventy two or seven K.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: And it's just, you know, makes a little bit trickier.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I like the Kyler's side of your doing it and
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: then picking your guy with Breeseall. So I thought you
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: broke that one down exactly how I would see it too.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Breese Hall seventy six hundred. Don't know if he'll pick
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: up steam again like he usually does, probably because people
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: just know it by now and they love it. He
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: really does get all the work, but I mean he
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: gets the targets, he gets the rushes, he gets all
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: that stuff. But yeah, I've got interest there for sure,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and I think that's how I would look at it.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: But I'd be fine also if you just wanted to
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: play Breese Hall and move on. Did you have any
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: quick James Connor thoughts. I mean, he's been getting into
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: the mix two getting targets, getting that, But they were
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: running a bunch of other running backs last week as well.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: I never played James Connor, and then every week I'm like,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: why don't know play James Connor. I will tell you
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: they really do spread it around. I think, like, did
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: you see how many people had rushing attempts last week?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: For him? It's in de Mercado Murray Connor, Like, they
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: all were getting it for sure.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I think even McBride got to carry. It was crazy.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's the only thing that concerns me is like,
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: I don't like to pay sixty five hundred dollars for
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: a running back that only gets sixty percent of the
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: action out of the backfield.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I like it, all right, do you want to pay
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: any kind Do you want to pay eighty three hundred
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: for a running back that scores multiple touchdowns and jumps
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: backwards over guys on the field. Because the next game
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: up is the final game of the slate. It is
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the Eagles at the Cowboys. Always a fun one, a
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: little quote unquote battle. I don't know if the Cowboys
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: count for a battle with anybody anymore, but you know,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Barkley eighty three hundred. The Cowboys signed Jonathan Mingo today
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: for the same price the Chiefs got DeAndre Hopkins for
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: so very interesting.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: They gave up a fourth round pick. They gave up
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: even more or.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was more because it was it
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: didn't Hopkins actually equal to a fifth.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, exactly a conditional fifth too. I think
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: it was like based on production.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: It may be there is something. It might go to
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: a fourth if he makes the Super Bowl and plays
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: X amount of snaps or something. But here there Eagles
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: at the Cowboys to round out the slate, what do
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: we got?
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, if AJ Brown's out, I honestly don't mind
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: a little sneaky Jalen hurt stack here, just with either
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Davante or you know, I don't know if Dallas Goddard's
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: gonna be back yet, but just something like that to
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: maybe get away from Saquon because Jalen Hurts has been
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: playing well. The Cowboys defense is garbage, and I'll tell
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: you that's about the Eagles. They kind of just keep going.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: They don't really even when they're up twenty one. They
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: keep the offense going. So I don't mind a little
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: skinny Jalen hurt Stack here, although I will tell you
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: I don't love any of the Cowboy runbacks. Maybe doubtell
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: if Zeke still suspended or whatever, or he's being a
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: little whiny bitch, but I would like a run back
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: from the Cowboys. And then I'm not sure what Cooper
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Rush's price is, but if he's under five thousand, I
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: think you always got to consider that at home.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Who's got the Cooper Rush price in the chat? Let
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: us know that one, because I mean, that's at least
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: something to talk about. The Yeah, the Cowboys is gonna
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: be a I mean, sorry, the Eagles is gonna be
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: something to talk about. Like there's even the first article
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: that pops up about Dallas Goddard is like the the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: is like, you know, he missed his third game in
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: a row, blah blah blah, all this other stuff. So
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: we won't know on that right away anyway, So it's
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: got to be something we could keep an eye on.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: But like you said, if you went with Hurts Davante
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: with Ajot or something like that, I think that could
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: be a way to go. But I would, yeah, I
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: mean I guess that's how I would kick it back
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: to you. I would want to run it back. So
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: is this how you see sort of like the Burrow
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Raiders stuff that we talked about last week. You really
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: don't want Hurts and somebody for the most part, you know,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: unless you think something is going to happen on the
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: other side. But how would you play it there?
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're gonna need somebody, But I gotta
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: tell you I wouldn't be super pumped to put it
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: in Cde Lamb, you know, even if he does play,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: just because like now, you have so much money tied
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: up between Hurts, Davante and CD You're really needing like
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: a ninety five percent outcome from those three. So I'd
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: rather do it with somebody more affordable, like a Rico
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Daudle or something like that that could get there. Or
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: if Lamb's out, maybe you look at Tolbert or Turpin
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: or somebody like that.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Who do you think Rush is gonna want to get
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: it too, because that's kind of the question. I think
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: we definitely seen him in the past often go look
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: it up after, But I mean he could do something
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: like that if you wanted to get to We just
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: got the price. Shout out to our guy Kenny. We
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Fifty one hundred, so it's close enough to
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: what you were looking for, not best by pricing, So
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: maybe that turns people off a little bit. He's not
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: forty nine, he's not forty five something like that. But
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: if you could put him with like a Tolbert and
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: then have DeVante Smith on the other side, I'd be
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: fine with that. You're not gonna get the same ceiling
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: as you get with Jalen Hurts, but you push the
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: game a little bit differently and then you're able to
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: fill up. Because remember we've walked through quite a bit already,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: and I don't see any value so far at these
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: other positions. I mean, if the chat has others, they
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: can throw him in. But we talked about how hard
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: it is at wide receiver that's going to lead to
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: condensed ownership on certain plays like a Hopkins at fifty
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: three hundred, He's just chalk for a reason. Throw him
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: in there. We're not expecting two touchdowns, but he can
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: crush it. He is attached to Mahomes a piece of
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: that game. I get that. I'm just saying it makes
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: it so that you may have to get a little
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: bit different in a way. And build it up through
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: your running back, build your points up through your running backs,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: your tight end, things like that where you can actually
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: pick up You may need a mid range tight end
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: for the first time all season of like a five
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: k because Ferguson five k, McBride fifty seven hundred, Like,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know, do you see any other to round
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: it out? And any other tight ends that are below
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: five k that you have a ton of interest in
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: as of right now, because Atten's up to fifty five
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Kittle fifty eight, I guess Pitts forty eight, he's under five.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: But also Taysom Hill. We might get some Taysom Hill
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: love this week if he's cheap again, have to check
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: his price out as well. But any tight ends you
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: see that are cheap that you have a ton interest in, Yeah.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: It doesn't seem to be the obvious Putt tight end
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: this week. Yeah, No, everyone that I would consider so far,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: I've seen over five thousand or close to it, right, Yeah, exactly.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: You know, if king Kid, if you want to go
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I get I'm not advocating, but I'm saying anybody even
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: if you go Ingram fifty three, Hawkinson is back now,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: So whatever his price is this week not posted yet
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: on here, but just to note, like, yeah, that's another
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: thing to think of. So probably more of these balanced builds,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: so if you can find your way around that and
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: stack up your potential for twenty five plus points in
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: other spots, because it's been tricky to get the third
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: last week pretty easy, like the winner of the million
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Maaker blew it out by twenty points and came just
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: fifteen off the optimal for points. But I think in
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: general twenty five plus is what you want to be
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: jamming in there. So if you got a way, you
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen by all means. But anything else
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Stijen that you want to talk about on this slate
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: ten games, we ran through them there, but I think
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: it was a pretty good breakdown, you know, for each one,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: and a good starting point for us. I got some
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I got some notes here. I got some notes.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna play fewer lineups this week and
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: playing bigger contests, which sounds like I'm changing my process,
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: but I'm really not.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I'm still gonna play around the same amount.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I just don't really think that I can build thirty
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: unique lineups that I like this week based on this
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: player pool, so I'm going to adjust the number of
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: lineups I make.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Ertz is not playing Philly this week. Artz is playing
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: the Steelers, So shout out to our boy Philly, Philly Phantom.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: But Ertz is thirty eight hundred, that's correct, But he's
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: going up against the Steelers, so maybe you meant that.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: But yeah, not not a revenge game for Ertz there,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: if that's what you're thinking. And I love your point
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: today too. Just a round up with a strategy tidbit,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: just you know, process wise, we do a lot of
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: the stuff the same way. Because this chat came up
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: and it's someone in our discord at SHIBP, a nation
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: who was a newer player said, when you guys, reserve
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: your contests and for you me a little bit more
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: experience others in there, and we're happy to answer and
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: help out our more experience. Probably have a set process
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: for when you get in on stuff or when you
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: see it posted stuff. You know that you're going to
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: play no matter what. But I think you do the
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: best job of this in every sport that you play,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: and you just hit it on a little bit. Is
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: you're not going up and necessarily playing ten grand this
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: week because you want money. You're saying you can reallocate
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: what you want to play in a different way because
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: you see how a slate plays out, and you talk
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: about this in golf all the time. People say, what
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: you've even put out a great little player pool guideline,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: but you've also said yourself, it is exactly what it is.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: It's a guideline because there is no set number. If
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: you like a bunch of guys, probably an MMME week.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Or if you like a certain wave and you want
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: to play more guys within it, and you're going to
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: extrapolate your pool, probably an mm ME week. But if
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: you don't love it, and you're like, man, I just
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: really love these three or four dudes or eight dudes,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I just need to mix them up as much as possible,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: throwing a few lower owned options around them to give
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: me some leverage that way, and boom, Bob's your uncle.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: We can move on. So I think you do the
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: best job of speaking to that. But that was what
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I was going to bring up. In football, you can
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: if you hate a slate, why are you playing the
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: same amount of money you love for the exact same
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: contest not just to say you're playing it like save it.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: What if next week you love next week Slater News
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: hits and you feel like you have a huge edge
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: or whatever it might be, and you've now blew your
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: bank roll the week before or a piece of it
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: on just playing to play. So always just think about that.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Mindset is super important in this game, this crazy game
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: that we all play and love. So anything else you
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: want to add on that, I just think that's super important,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: and not enough people talk about it, and definitely not
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: enough people do it. Personally.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: I just love that we do this every Tuesday. Guess
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: the juice is flowing. Gives me a whole week to
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: you know, think about what I'm doing. Is at the
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: best play ad ideas, take ideas away, This first look
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: show to me has actually made me a better player,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: So that would be my takeaway.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, always the goal man. We want to make sure
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: you know this is what Kenny says. This is the case.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: You just make another deposit. Uh, Yeah, that's the deposits
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: have been more than usual, So that's the way she
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: goes some seasons. But if you're following your own process,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you know what you're doing and you feel like you're
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: right there. I mean, I've vented to you enough, Kenny,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: You're my boy. But it's like, you know, it sucks,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: but it's part of the game and if you just
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: if you keep putting yourself there, it's going to happen.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: And I always have to remind myself every year is
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: the same thing. I get a ton of seconds, I
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: get a ton of thirds, I get a bunch of
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: close calls, everybody else wins, and I'm like, this is
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: the way it goes, and then all of a sudden,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: a big score hits. Maybe this year it'll be my
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: biggest ever. I don't know, but certainly a lot of
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: fun grinding it throughout the way and having fun with
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: all the members of the community over at Shipping Nation.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: If you guys want to join the nation. Somebody asked earlier,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: how long is this eighty five dollars onto we left
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: it up, like we know, a lot of people are
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: getting back into the swing of things for NBA, NHL tonight,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: PGA is still last three weeks. A lot of people
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: are getting interested now in college football with the bigger
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: prize pools and more information and the EA Sports or
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: whatever it was game came out this past year everybody
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: was excited for so there's a ton of excitement around
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: college football. We want people to be able to experience
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: all of this. MMA has been a ton of fun Nascar.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I know it is rounding out, but it comes back
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: right after football, So as long as we leave it
• 50:04
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• 50:05
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• 50:07
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• 50:09
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• 50:11
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• 50:13
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• 50:15
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• 50:17
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• 50:19
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