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Tarheels and fish fans

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Brian’s vacation continues for a second week, so Matt is joined by Caitlin Legacki, a Democratic strategist and Third Way fellow, to talk about some of the less-covered but more-successful 2026 senate recruits starting with former North Carolina governor Roy Cooper.

In this episode Matt and Caitlin discuss:

* Why objectively successful red state governors struggle to obtain national attention.

* The constraints and upsides of dealing with an opposition legislature.

* The New South tradition of business-friendly…

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