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EP346: Rav Bains - Personal Transformational Leadership · Respark Your Life

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  Speaker 1: It wasn't until one day somebody said to me, "What are you, Rav?" And I thought,
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  Speaker 1: "I'm nobody. I don't have anything." I thought, "I've got to get some education
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  Speaker 1: because you need it. I've got to grow up." Sometimes we need some spark, something that
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  Speaker 1: lights our fire.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, this is Raymond Aaron, New York Times top 10 bestselling author, bringing you Respark
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  Speaker 3: Yes, this is Raymond Aaron, the founder and interviewer of Respark Your Life.
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  Speaker 3: And as you know, you've heard it so many times, I find stealth geniuses whose wisdom you could
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  Speaker 3: never get on your own. And man, have I reached for the top this time. This gentleman, his name is
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  Speaker 3: Rav Bains, is a visionary leader in social impact and organizational transformation.
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  Speaker 3: He's the author of "Unlocking the Secret to Success"
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  Speaker 3: and he's a recipient of the prestigious
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  Speaker 3: Senate of Canada 150 Medal,
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  Speaker 3: awarded for his outstanding contributions
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  Speaker 3: to child welfare and community services.
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  Speaker 3: This national honor commemorates the 150th anniversary
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  Speaker 3: of the Canadian Senate's first sitting,
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  Speaker 3: celebrating individuals whose work and dedication
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  Speaker 3: helped make Canada an even better place to live. Wow, wow, wow. I know him well, I know his family
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  Speaker 3: well. We've dined together, we've gone on vacations together, but wait till you hear his powerful
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  Speaker 3: wisdom. He's here not because he's my friend, he's here because he's powerful. Rav Bains, are you with
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  Speaker 1: us. I am with you, sir. I am excited and I am looking forward to this podcast and thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much for the invitation. It is much appreciated. Well, you deserve it. You deserve it. But right
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  Speaker 3: now, my listeners are saying deserve what? What is he? Well, this topic is personal,
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  Speaker 3: transformational leadership and he has had such wisdom in this area. First of all,
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  Speaker 3: why don't we start, Sof, with telling us about personal development. Well, personal development,
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately, our education system really doesn't touch on personal development at all.
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  Speaker 1: What our education system and our social conditioning does, two things really. One,
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  Speaker 1: teaches us technical skills. If I write an essay, I give it back. The better I regurgitate what the
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  Speaker 1: professors give, the more marks I get. What it doesn't do is actually help us to how do we live
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  Speaker 1: in the world? How do I go about doing the things that I want? How can I be at my best in wherever
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  Speaker 1: I am? So personal development really is self-education. And my view is either you have
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  Speaker 1: self-education or you're not educated. And I can share with you my personal story.
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  Speaker 1: Raymond, I got kicked out of school. I got nothing. I got kicked out of home simply because
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  Speaker 1: I was marrying somebody who was a different religion than me. I was homeless. I was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: drinking all the while. I managed somehow to find a landlord who would let me live free until I got
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  Speaker 1: a job, until I got a job, Irish person who's like a father. It wasn't until one day somebody
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  Speaker 1: said to me, what are you Rav? And I thought, Jesus, I'm nobody, I don't have anything.
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  Speaker 1: And that one remark of this person got me onto the track of two things. One, I thought,
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  Speaker 1: I've got to get some education because you need it because you want to get into an organization,
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  Speaker 1: I look at your resume, he's got a MSW whatever.
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  Speaker 1: And the second thing was, I thought, and this is,
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  Speaker 1: I said, I gotta grow up.
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  Speaker 1: That was myself to me, I gotta grow up.
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  Speaker 1: And I was in what, 24, 25 at that time, got nothing.
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  Speaker 1: So I was very lucky that somebody had made that statement
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  Speaker 1: that actually woke me up.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes we need some spark,
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  Speaker 1: something that lights our fire.
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  Speaker 1: And that got me onto the journey of education.
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  Speaker 1: And I went degree after degree, got up to the Ph.D. level, etc.,
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  Speaker 1: became CEO and and and.
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  Speaker 1: But in the middle of that,
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  Speaker 1: I did not realize that my education was not going to make me a good leader.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it was not going to make me a good leader.
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  Speaker 1: I realized how stressed I was, how leadership was out there,
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  Speaker 1: leadership was doing things,
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  Speaker 1: leadership was about strategy and performance
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  Speaker 1: and performance indicators.
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  Speaker 1: And if only people would behave themselves
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  Speaker 1: and do what they need to do, everything would be fine.
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  Speaker 1: And it wasn't until one day I was so stressed out,
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  Speaker 1: went into the office, put my head on the table,
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  Speaker 1: my in basket was this high,
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  Speaker 1: And there's a little card there waiting,
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  Speaker 1: just there saying, "Are you stressed out?
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  Speaker 1: Do you need to get to level?"
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  Speaker 1: Free workshop, King George Hotel, 10 to 12 o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: It was on the day.
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  Speaker 1: I said to my secretary, Sheila,
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  Speaker 1: I said, "Sheila, all phones are off.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going, anybody wants me."
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  Speaker 1: In those days, you had a pager.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't even have a cell phone, right?
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  Speaker 1: Page me if you need me.
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  Speaker 1: Go to this workshop, which was the Dale Carnegie course.
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  Speaker 1: Changed my life.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, oh my God, it's all about me.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about me.
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  Speaker 1: And that's when the light bulb went off.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, my God, I've been thinking
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  Speaker 1: how people are broken, organizations are broken.
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  Speaker 1: But if I don't fix myself,
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  Speaker 1: which is the biggest, most powerful thing you can do,
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  Speaker 1: is if I don't get my thinking straight,
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  Speaker 1: then I realize that companies are not,
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  Speaker 1: Leaders are not managing companies,
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  Speaker 1: they're managing nervous systems.
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  Speaker 1: They're managing emotional human beings.
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  Speaker 1: But if I don't manage my nervous system,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm not only carrying this body around of who I am,
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  Speaker 1: but if I am not managing my nervous system,
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  Speaker 1: then how do I manage 500 nervous systems
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  Speaker 1: that are in the organization?
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  Speaker 1: And that's what personal development
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  Speaker 1: and personal transformation ways.
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  Speaker 1: It's not transactional.
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  Speaker 3: - Let's get down to the real deep meat of this.
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  Speaker 3: You have my love and admiration forever
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  Speaker 3: because you entered an organization, Children's Aid,
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  Speaker 3: which sounds like nice, you know?
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  Speaker 3: There should be an organization, part of the government,
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  Speaker 3: which if the parents die, there's got to be an organization,
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  Speaker 3: take the kids, make sure they're safe,
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  Speaker 3: but it has turned into a suppressive organization,
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  Speaker 3: into a very, very ugly organization
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  Speaker 3: that does mean and horrible things to children
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  Speaker 3: and to their parents,
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  Speaker 3: and causes them hundreds of thousands of dollars
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  Speaker 3: of completely wasted legal fees.
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  Speaker 3: For example, let's just give one example.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of each year,
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  Speaker 3: the number of children under care
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  Speaker 3: is what determines how much money they get
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  Speaker 3: from the government for the next year.
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  Speaker 3: So in the last couple months of each year,
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  Speaker 3: no child is released, even if they should be released.
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  Speaker 3: And no matter how much money,
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  Speaker 3: the parents pour into wasted legal fees.
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  Speaker 3: And that's just one example.
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  Speaker 3: There's hundreds of others.
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  Speaker 3: I've been trapped in Children's Aid on two occasions,
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  Speaker 3: and they were both ugly and disastrous.
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  Speaker 3: And you were the CEO of one of those organizations
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  Speaker 3: and yours was the only one that was humane and honorable
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  Speaker 3: and actually loved the children in such a way
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  Speaker 3: that the children were first, not the employees.
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  Speaker 3: Please tell us how you transformed
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  Speaker 3: one of the ugliest businesses around into such a noble one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's a really, really good question.
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  Speaker 1: And you're not the only one, Raymond.
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  Speaker 1: I hear that.
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  Speaker 1: I used to hear that all the time.
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  Speaker 1: The organizations are complex.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you do need an organization that protects children.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, children's aid societies
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  Speaker 1: are very poor at telling their story.
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  Speaker 1: The communication back into the community is very poor.
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  Speaker 1: Secondly, it is very, very compliance-led.
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  Speaker 1: You've got rules, you've got legislation,
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  Speaker 1: you've got regulation after regulation,
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  Speaker 1: the money is tied to where you can't spend it.
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  Speaker 1: So you're highly regulated, you're highly accountable,
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  Speaker 1: and your hands are basically tied.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't go and investigate a concern
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  Speaker 1: and something happens, you're in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: You're in the media.
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  Speaker 1: If you do something and you don't do it properly,
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  Speaker 1: you can still be in the media
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  Speaker 1: get into trouble. So how do you do a very complex piece of work that is as you say
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  Speaker 1: humane, child focus, community focus and parent focus? Well I'll share a little
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  Speaker 1: story with you. In England, in London, I used to sit at the end of the year with
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  Speaker 1: all the children that were in care. We'd have a whole morning etc etc. At the end
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  Speaker 1: of that I would sit and we'd had over a hundred kids and I would say how can I
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  Speaker 1: help you. I was head of Children and Family Services. And this one girl, I'll never forget,
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  Speaker 1: she was about 14. Her name was Elizabeth. She stood up. And she said, Mr. Baines,
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  Speaker 1: I know you think you are doing the best for us. Right? She said young offenders are put in
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  Speaker 1: juvenile criminal systems. For us, this is therapeutic incarceration. And I thought,
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  Speaker 1: wow, I never thought that this is how children felt, that this is therapeutic incarceration,
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  Speaker 1: even though we think we're doing something good. And that has stuck with me forever. And she said,
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  Speaker 1: so what are you going to do? This is a 14 year old hundred kids, I've got all my staff behind me.
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  Speaker 1: right? And I asked these questions and kids ask the most simplest and powerful questions
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  Speaker 1: that put leaders on the spot, right? Because they are asking questions from their heart
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  Speaker 1: and not from their head. And so I made a promise to that young girl. I said that we will work the
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  Speaker 1: hardest for as long as I remain the leader. We will have the least number of kids and we will do
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  Speaker 1: our damn bestest to keep children and families together.
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  Speaker 1: And I gave that young girl a promise back in 1989.
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  Speaker 1: And since then I've been on a mission.
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  Speaker 1: Every organization that I go into is to transform it
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  Speaker 1: and actually have clear set goals.
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  Speaker 1: And that is number one, we keep children at home.
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  Speaker 1: Number two, you're passionate about the people
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  Speaker 1: that you work with.
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  Speaker 1: Number three, child protection cannot be done on its own.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to get the police, the education and health on board to be able to work together
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  Speaker 1: because it's a complex system.
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  Speaker 1: We can't achieve anything.
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  Speaker 1: So when I took over this very complex organization, I was very clear only on about five things.
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  Speaker 1: I knew that we had to be compliant, balanced budget, etc., etc.
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  Speaker 1: I made myself five, I made a report card for myself.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, we had 700 kids in care.
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  Speaker 1: When I left, 150.
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  Speaker 1: - Wow.
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  Speaker 1: - Number two was that we were in the region of Peel,
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  Speaker 1: the most diverse community in the whole of Canada,
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  Speaker 1: 1.5 million, and we were 80% wide organization,
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  Speaker 1: as they would say.
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  Speaker 1: We were 62% diversity when I left.
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  Speaker 1: They had not had a balanced budget for 30 years, 40 years.
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  Speaker 1: And I had a balanced budget
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  Speaker 1: for all the 12 years that I was there.
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  Speaker 1: Community participation.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason that I actually received the Senate award
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  Speaker 1: was that we covered the airport.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got children being smuggled
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  Speaker 1: from all over the country.
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  Speaker 1: And these children, we would pick up with the police.
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  Speaker 1: they would come into care and they would drift in care.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody was doing anything for these kids.
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  Speaker 1: We would look after them, dead age out to 18,
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  Speaker 1: no citizenship and away they go and lost forever.
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  Speaker 1: So I said, how can this be that we pick up
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  Speaker 1: emotionally abused kids from the airport,
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  Speaker 1: we further damage them by drifting care,
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  Speaker 1: they can't have education, they got no papers.
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  Speaker 1: So I gave a commitment to form the very first
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  Speaker 1: Child Welfare Immigration Center of Excellence for Unaccompanied Minors.
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  Speaker 1: And a senator by the name of Senator O heard about this, came to see me, invited into the Senate
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  Speaker 1: to give a speech on unaccompanied minors. He changed the legislation to say no child should
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  Speaker 1: leave the care without getting citizenship. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So now it's the only organization in the whole of Canada,
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  Speaker 1: they have now round tables in Ottawa.
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  Speaker 1: How did we do it?
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  Speaker 1: How did we achieve it?
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  Speaker 1: And now those kids are the most, the best looked after ever.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a couple of things
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  Speaker 1: because your question was, how did you transform it?
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  Speaker 1: That's a really, really tough question.
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  Speaker 1: I think number one,
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  Speaker 1: you've really got to have a clear vision.
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  Speaker 1: As a CEO, if you don't have a report card,
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  Speaker 1: If you don't role model, if you do not try to be the team,
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  Speaker 1: the teams that you want, the community that you want,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't act and behave like that,
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  Speaker 1: then you can't transform it.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing is nobody cares how much you know Raymond
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  Speaker 1: until they know how much you care.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody's interested.
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  Speaker 1: And you've got to be able to relate to people.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to be able to relate to people
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  Speaker 1: because people will forget how much you know,
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  Speaker 1: but they will never forget what you made them feel.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the key is that relationship.
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  Speaker 1: And the other thing is people don't understand
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  Speaker 1: the difference between visible leadership
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  Speaker 1: and invisible leadership.
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  Speaker 1: Visible leadership is everybody has a strategy,
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  Speaker 1: they have objectives, they have committees,
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  Speaker 1: they have all of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you need it for public accountability,
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  Speaker 1: But that's not where the real work happens.
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  Speaker 1: The real work happens when you're connecting with people,
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  Speaker 1: when you're calling people,
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  Speaker 1: when you're actually inspiring, motivating.
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  Speaker 1: So you're not compliance driven, you're connection driven.
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  Speaker 1: - Wow.
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  Speaker 1: - And I was very clear with our people in a gentle,
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  Speaker 1: but a hard way.
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  Speaker 1: We only exist for one reason.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't hire Ralph Baines
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  Speaker 1: because he might be a good CEO or a good leader.
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  Speaker 1: They hired him for children and families
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  Speaker 1: so that we could offer the best service.
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  Speaker 1: So I made this Children's Aid Society
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  Speaker 1: number one in Canada.
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  Speaker 3: - Yes, you did it and you did it brilliantly well.
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  Speaker 1: - I still get CEOs call me today.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a phone call tomorrow, in fact.
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  Speaker 1: She's in trouble and she said,
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  Speaker 1: "I wanna know how you did it."
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  Speaker 1: So in my workshop, these are some of the things
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  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, show people and I'm working currently with an executive leadership team
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  Speaker 1: of 15 people. And that's exactly what I say to them, you're not managing an organisation,
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  Speaker 1: you're managing a nervous system. But get your own nervous system correct first. Because
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  Speaker 1: if you don't hold yourself accountable to good leadership principles and values, then
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  Speaker 1: don't hold other people to higher standard than you hold yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm sorry that was long. But you can see how passionate I am
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  Speaker 1: about about this.
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  Speaker 3: You are. And the subscribers have caught it. My subscribers
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  Speaker 3: have said, man, this guy knows his stuff. He knows how to take
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  Speaker 3: care of people. He knows how to decide what's the most important thing in an organization.
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  Speaker 1: Can I share one more thing, sir? This is going to shock you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I start off with a flip chart. You know, everybody has PowerPoints.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what the title of my flip chart is called?
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  Speaker 1: Let's hear it. Raymond Aaron Box.
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  Speaker 3: Raymond Aaron... Box.
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  Speaker 3: V-O-X. Yep. Raymond Aaron Vox. Yep. So what does that mean? You're wondering what the hell is
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  Speaker 1: Raymond Aaron Vox and why are you using my name? Yeah. You did a presentation in England
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  Speaker 1: on your 1010 presentation. Yes. One of the things that you said in that presentation
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  Speaker 1: is what does being in the box mean? And you said it is the sum of everything that you know.
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  Speaker 1: And if it is the sum of everything you know, then the results that you are getting is the
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  Speaker 1: sum of everything you know and you've been doing.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So, the answers lie where?
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  Speaker 1: Outside the box.
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  Speaker 1: Outside the box.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, not only are you inside the box with everything that you know, but what's
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  Speaker 1: keeping you in the box is your emotions.
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  Speaker 1: every belief system, every value, everything that you do is emotionally led. So if the answers lie
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  Speaker 1: outside the box, then now let's have a look at the answers that lie outside the box. So I call it the
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  Speaker 3: Raymond Aaron box. Wow. Isn't that cool? It is. In retrospect, I now hereby give you permission.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry I didn't ask for it.
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  Speaker 1: But I love you, we've spent so much time together.
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  Speaker 1: I love the Orbit and I'm telling you the amount
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  Speaker 1: that I learned off you.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, Raymond, the Mulberry Hill gang,
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  Speaker 1: the High Point University, the communication workshop,
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  Speaker 1: all of those, you know, the time we spent in Mexico.
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  Speaker 1: I was able to bring all of that into the organization.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the words that I started to,
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  Speaker 1: and I shared with them,
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  Speaker 1: with the director of WOW at the High Point University.
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  Speaker 1: So I was using those learnings from your workshops,
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  Speaker 1: and I wasn't getting paid anything extra,
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  Speaker 1: to actually stimulate.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, one of my biggest, biggest legacy
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  Speaker 1: that I have left, in 48 years,
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  Speaker 1: eight different organizations,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the only CEO that have created five other CEOs.
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  Speaker 1: - Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: - Five CEOs I have created through my mentorship,
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  Speaker 1: coaching, mentoring, and inspiring.
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  Speaker 1: Now, are you gonna win everything?
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  Speaker 1: Of course not.
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  Speaker 1: Are you gonna change everything?
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  Speaker 1: No, but the thing is you gotta keep trying
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  Speaker 1: because you can't motivate people.
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  Speaker 1: You can only create an environment
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  Speaker 1: where people can flourish and inspire
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  Speaker 1: and motivate themselves.
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  Speaker 1: It's like taking a horse to water.
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  Speaker 1: You can't make it drink.
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  Speaker 1: Even if you dunk its head, he won't drink.
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  Speaker 1: So you could take people to knowledge,
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  Speaker 1: but you can't make them think.
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  Speaker 1: That has to be personal.
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  Speaker 3: - But you have the secret sauce.
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  Speaker 3: And I know, and I'm not gonna ruin it for you.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I'm going to let you tell everyone the surprise.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: As proof of how sincere you are,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: of deeply, passionately helping people,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: you have the most extraordinary gift I've ever heard.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: No charge, no obligation, no strings.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Tell my dear subscribers what you're offering.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: - Raymond, my vision really is to help
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  Speaker 1: as many organizations as I can.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: excuse me, and help as many individuals as I can.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: That is my vision.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: What I'm gonna offer you, and I have never done this before,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: two one-to-one sessions for one hour with me personally
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  Speaker 1: on how I can help them
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: on their personal transformational journey.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: How can they be on their A game all the time?
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: And the first thing I say to them
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: so they can get ready when they come and see me,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: is I always quote them, Rumi's quote,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: "Yesterday I was smart, I was changing the world.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: "Today I am wise, I am changing myself."
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: And that will be the beginning
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: of those one hour sessions, Raymond.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: And that's what I wanna do for your listeners only.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I've never done it before.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: - You're offering two one hour sessions
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: with you personally.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: - Yeah.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: - Anywhere in the world by Zoom.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: - Absolutely.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: - And you charge for this normally.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: - Absolutely.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: - And you're giving two hours for free.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: - Two hours for free.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: - Let me tell everyone your secret private email address
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: so they can inundate you.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: So I'll say it quickly and then I'll spell it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: ravsbaines1@gmail.com.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: and Rav is R-A-V, then the letter S as in Sierra,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Bains, B-A-I-N-S, the number one at gmail.com.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: It's also in the show notes.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Email him, set up an appointment,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: two free one hour sessions from the master
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: of personal transformational leadership,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: emotional intelligence, and neuroscience.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: ask him any question you wish,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: - Yes.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: - through his two one hour sessions.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: And what is the end result?
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: What will they get from those two hour sessions?
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: - The first thing that they will get
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: is they will start to understand themselves.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: - Wow.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: - Because what we tend to do is to say
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: everything around us is broken.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: If only that would be fixed, I'll be okay.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: And that's where real conversation happens.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: That's the conversation.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: And then I'll leave your listeners with one last quote.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: The real voyage of discovery is not in seeking new lands, but it is seeking with new eyes.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: And that's what it's all about.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Rav, you are amazing.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: I loved you since I first met you so many years ago, and I'm so honored that you have
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: agreed to be on my podcast.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I love you, and I'm going to stay connected with you, and I'll be honest with you, I need
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: to get back hooked into you, Raymond.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Right on.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I need to get hooked back into you.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Let's reconnect.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and you're amazing, and love you.
• 25:28
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• 25:32
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