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Daughters Lead Police To Mother's Dead Body · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 1: You all right, Bob.
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  Speaker 2: The door was walking in the room.
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  Speaker 3: And okay, can you sit right here for me. These
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  Speaker 3: are the two daughters of twenty eight year old Ashley
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  Speaker 3: finish in just a few seconds. They're going to lead
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  Speaker 3: the officer to their mother's lifeless body inside the bathroom.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, we're burning and she's in there.
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  Speaker 3: And as the oldest daughter bravely guides her siblings to safety.
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  Speaker 3: Police are still unsure whether this was self inflicted or
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  Speaker 3: if there's a killer on the loose, but they'd eventually
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  Speaker 3: discover that Ashley's killer is closer to home than anybody expected,
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  Speaker 3: pulling investigators into one of the most tragic domestic dispute
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  Speaker 3: cases the state of Louisiana has ever seen.
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  Speaker 4: She no, she's not they're young.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they've done a number on her.
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  Speaker 6: After Sure wanted him to leave, get out there, leave
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  Speaker 6: the girls alone.
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  Speaker 4: I said, I don't even, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: We've created a gofund me for these children, starting with
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  Speaker 3: a ten thousand dollars donation of our own if you'd
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  Speaker 3: like to help. More details are in the description. On
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  Speaker 3: a quiet April evening in the small city of Diritter, Louisiana,
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  Speaker 3: police receive a terrifying nine to one one call. But
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  Speaker 3: what would shock the dispatcher is the eary, calmness of
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  Speaker 3: the callergency.
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  Speaker 7: Hi, I need to report a crime.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, what's the address?
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  Speaker 4: Through sixty five North?
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  Speaker 7: Rage to drive sender Ritter Louisiana.
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  Speaker 8: Stand get please home with us.
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  Speaker 9: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: At this moment, the caller hangs up, leaving officers worried
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  Speaker 3: he might be an immediate danger. Officer Josh Stanford rushes
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  Speaker 3: to the report of the dress, unaware that he's only
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  Speaker 3: moments away from discovering a scene more disturbing than he
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  Speaker 3: could ever imagine.
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  Speaker 9: You all right, Bob, the door was walking in the room, and.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, can you sit right here for me?
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  Speaker 8: Is anybody in there?
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  Speaker 2: No, my sisters are inside right here.
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  Speaker 10: Okay here the eggs.
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  Speaker 2: Were burning and she's in there.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, y'all come in here, Come come here, come here,
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  Speaker 10: stay in here, stay in here.
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  Speaker 4: Two far four City.
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  Speaker 3: The woman has a single bullet wound to the right
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  Speaker 3: side of her head and appears to have been dead
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  Speaker 3: for some time. Yet the male caller is nowhere to
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  Speaker 3: be found. But then the officer remembers there are still
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  Speaker 3: four young girls nearby. Who have just lost their mother.
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  Speaker 10: Come here, come here, Come help me, Come help me.
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  Speaker 10: Do you know these children? Yes? Okay, you got parents here? Yah?
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  Speaker 4: Huh?
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  Speaker 10: Can you take them to a secure place for me?
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  Speaker 3: Was there anybody else here?
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  Speaker 2: Budy healthy.
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  Speaker 3: And an unimaginable act of courage, the eldest daughter guides
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  Speaker 3: her younger siblings to safety, leading them to the neighbor's house.
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  Speaker 3: The neighbor bravely takes in the four traumatized children, who
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  Speaker 3: would later turn out to be instrumental to the investigation.
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  Speaker 3: Officers head back inside to try to locate the caller,
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  Speaker 3: completely unaware that he's the one who pulled the trigger.
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  Speaker 10: Is there one victim or two?
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm at north, Preach said you do.
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  Speaker 11: I have one victimer too, so we need to clear
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  Speaker 11: the rest of the house.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted the impression that was a mail here too,
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  Speaker 4: But there's thinking about this.
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  Speaker 3: City. Please, hey, you please go right plea for.
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  Speaker 11: Click.
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  Speaker 12: See When the glass was on the phone with him,
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  Speaker 12: I was under the impression there was a male subject
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  Speaker 12: that had had been shot.
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  Speaker 4: To look out in the backyard, thank you, thank you?
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  Speaker 4: Checking what's that? A small they cook? Okay? Where does
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  Speaker 4: she at? She's in that bathroom. Oh yeah, everything else cleared.
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  Speaker 4: Everything else is cleared.
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  Speaker 3: Officers find no one else inside, leaving them still in
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  Speaker 3: the dark about who the collar really is. They'd further
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  Speaker 3: look into the victim's injuries and quickly realize there was
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  Speaker 3: almost no imminent struggle, leaving officers questioning whether the injuries
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  Speaker 3: may have been self inflicted. But before anything else, they
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  Speaker 3: still need to identify the victim, and this is when
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  Speaker 3: the officer would make a devastating discovery, one that would
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  Speaker 3: turn this into a far more personal case.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I didn't want to wait till you guys here
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  Speaker 7: for us are trying.
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  Speaker 4: To find an idea or anything.
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  Speaker 6: Let me how you want to turn a stove off?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Ashley Fish there across the street, Ashley Fish. I'm
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  Speaker 4: I'm assuming young based off of what I'm seeing here.
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  Speaker 4: Just strul with her, did you? Yeah, so she's praise Warber. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I moved away. She and he came the Josh Fish. No,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think she's.
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  Speaker 6: Your ais though, or yeah, graduated together, So we're about.
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  Speaker 3: Lead Detective Cooley immediately recognizes the name twenty eight year
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  Speaker 3: old Ashley Fish. He knew Ashley as a deriter local,
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  Speaker 3: someone who married her high school sweetheart and had only
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  Speaker 3: recently moved back to Louisiana from Texas. Determined to find
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  Speaker 3: answers and uncover who murdered his friend, he turns to
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  Speaker 3: the neighbors for more information. Meanwhile, other officers begin reviewing
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  Speaker 3: neighborhood CCTV footage, searching for anyone who may have been
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  Speaker 3: at the house besides Ashley and the children, and they're
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  Speaker 3: about to discover that someone else was indeed inside, someone
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  Speaker 3: who is already on the run.
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  Speaker 4: Zechy who Jeff Brown, Master micher Hey a couple of portions. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you've gonna ask me anything, But I really didn't see anything.
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  Speaker 11: The only one saw anything my son or saw one
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  Speaker 11: that was he was mowing out here.
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  Speaker 4: What's your buddy? Protect a coup? Nice to make you
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  Speaker 4: heard you kind of saw some stuff, just a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: not much, but you've seen some U something happened next door?
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  Speaker 4: Uh well, I just want a line. And then I
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  Speaker 4: saw like the car of the you ever.
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  Speaker 3: Leave, lining up with what the boys saw. Another neighbor
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  Speaker 3: offers ring camera footage showing a black truck leaving Ashley's
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  Speaker 3: house just minutes before the nine one one call. Desperate
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  Speaker 3: to learn who was driving that truck, officers turned to
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  Speaker 3: the next neighbor, unaware they're about to speak with the
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  Speaker 3: victim's best friend and is someone who knows exactly who
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  Speaker 3: the driver is.
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  Speaker 9: What's that the girls there at house?
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  Speaker 4: It's not good. She no, she's not.
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  Speaker 9: She was out here earlier, when about five o'clock or so.
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  Speaker 12: I saw her out here.
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  Speaker 9: Everything seemed fine.
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  Speaker 7: There was a truck.
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  Speaker 13: She has a significant other, she's going through a divorce
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  Speaker 13: and they're legally separated.
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  Speaker 3: But he was here, the truck, black truck was here.
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  Speaker 9: Do you think he shot her?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I can't.
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  Speaker 10: I can't tell you a whole lot.
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  Speaker 3: So as long as the children are safe with you
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  Speaker 3: for now, we'll take care of her.
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  Speaker 7: I know her, gosh, I'm assuming that it was okay.
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  Speaker 12: Tyler was the person that was here.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if that was his truck usually drives
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  Speaker 7: a black truck. And then her husband's name.
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  Speaker 1: Is John John Fish.
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  Speaker 3: She would go on to identify their main suspect as
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  Speaker 3: thirty four year old Tyler der Rachowski, Ashley's new boyfriend.
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  Speaker 3: Detectives immediately begin digging into his history, gathering anything they
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  Speaker 3: can find and working to locate him as quickly as possible.
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  Speaker 3: But just as they're about to begin the man hunt,
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  Speaker 3: another nine to one one call comes in and it's
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  Speaker 3: from the killer himself.
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  Speaker 7: Hi, I need to turn myself into the police.
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  Speaker 14: Okay, I don't know how to do this or you wanted?
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  Speaker 7: Do you have an active warrant?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 7: I just committed a crime.
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  Speaker 15: Okay, what crime?
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  Speaker 8: Did you come up?
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  Speaker 7: I shot somebody?
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  Speaker 9: Okay located.
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  Speaker 7: I'm at Burke's Outlet in de Ritter. I'm in the
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  Speaker 7: parking lot and I just am going to wait here
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  Speaker 7: to get picked up.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, who did you shoot a woman?
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
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  Speaker 7: What is her name? Ashley Fish.
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  Speaker 3: Officers rushed to the address he gave an empty parking lot,
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  Speaker 3: still baffled as to why he confessed and why it
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  Speaker 3: took him so long to come forward. Knowing he likely
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  Speaker 3: killed a woman in front of her children, they braced themselves,
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  Speaker 3: fully expecting anything to go wrong at any moment, or
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  Speaker 3: even an ambush.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to be in birch Margaret lot. Incredible.
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  Speaker 14: Okay, So you just want to do this is sit
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  Speaker 14: on your boot and start your legs.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Tipple, are you out with.
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  Speaker 3: The main suspect arrested. Officers have no idea the investigation
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  Speaker 3: is moments away from taking another unexpected turn. When they
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  Speaker 3: search his vehicle, they find no weapons, but they do
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  Speaker 3: find multiple prescription drugs, vials of testosterone, and syringes. To
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  Speaker 3: their surprise, Tyler seems unusually calm for someone who just
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  Speaker 3: took a life, and it would quickly become obvious that
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  Speaker 3: this calm controlled demeanor is part of a plan, a
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  Speaker 3: plan to get away with murder.
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  Speaker 8: If you're still comfortable talking to me, can you tell
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  Speaker 8: me a little bit about what happened here?
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  Speaker 14: This woman who and I got on altercation last night.
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  Speaker 14: Things were kind of falling out between the two of us,
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  Speaker 14: just relationally, and I was getting ready to move back
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  Speaker 14: to Oregon. So she pulled out she had a gun
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  Speaker 14: in her drawer. She loaded it and was pointing it
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  Speaker 14: at me and started fighting and.
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  Speaker 4: Went off.
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  Speaker 3: Tyler insists he shot Ashley in self defense after she
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  Speaker 3: pulled the pistol on him, immediately complicating the investigation. Once
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  Speaker 3: he's brought into the station, officers relay this information to
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  Speaker 3: the team at the scene, who would begin searching for
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  Speaker 3: anything that might support his claim and Unexpectedly, they do
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  Speaker 3: find one piece of evidence in Tyler's favor, the murder
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  Speaker 3: weapon itself. Okay, here's what I've I've got right now.
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  Speaker 4: I know you got a lot of coming in.
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  Speaker 3: Cameron has got the suspect, Tyler.
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  Speaker 13: Gubowski over at at Park Terrace.
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  Speaker 7: So he gave you a sales local without any problems, and.
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  Speaker 8: He told you all that he did it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I see the hair and I've called in the
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  Speaker 4: serial number. It's going to be a Smith and West.
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  Speaker 4: She's been here for a minute, so I had to guess.
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  Speaker 7: I mean she still has in some coming out of
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  Speaker 7: the room, she still pretty warm, and I had to
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  Speaker 7: get a hitten in between forty five minutes and an.
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  Speaker 4: Hour and twenty will that sitting at up? Yes. So
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  Speaker 4: once they run the strip and back out and you
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  Speaker 4: get a curt point.
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  Speaker 3: Forty, detectives still find no evidence of a struggle, but
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  Speaker 3: they do discover something unexpected After running the gun's serial number,
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  Speaker 3: it comes back not to Tyler but to Ashley herself,
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  Speaker 3: meaning his version of events may not be entirely false.
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  Speaker 3: And with that, investigators begin to grasp just how little
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  Speaker 3: physical evidence actually ties Tyler to the shooting. They then
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  Speaker 3: finished processing the scene, send Ashley's body for autopsy and
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  Speaker 3: her phone for forensic examiners to be unlocked. Shortly afterwards,
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  Speaker 3: the grandparents arrive at the scene to pick up the
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  Speaker 3: four traumatized children into their care. It's at this point
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  Speaker 3: that it becomes clear the oldest daughter witnessed something she
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  Speaker 3: will wish she never had.
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  Speaker 11: I've got Gray.
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  Speaker 4: And Strawberry.
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  Speaker 8: Young.
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  Speaker 4: You're healthy. The one you want to talk to is Raley.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, she supposedly told my wife that she saw something
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  Speaker 7: and she didn't want to talk about.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, my babies, I want to pick you up to exit.
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  Speaker 3: This brings a small sense of relief to the officers,
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  Speaker 3: knowing that children are finally away from the horrors inside,
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  Speaker 3: but now comes the most difficult part, calling Ashley's ex
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  Speaker 3: husband John and informing him that she is dead. Lead
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  Speaker 3: Detective Coolly asks John to come to the station for
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  Speaker 3: questioning as soon as possible, and while Tyler anxiously waits
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  Speaker 3: for his chance to speak, detectives make a deliberate decision
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  Speaker 3: to start with John instead, But the longer Tyler waits,
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  Speaker 3: the more agitated he becomes, and by the time they
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  Speaker 3: will finally sit down with him, he will snap.
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  Speaker 4: I've never had someone do that to me. I've never
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  Speaker 4: had someone get that mad at me that they load
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  Speaker 4: up the weapon.
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  Speaker 3: One hour after Ashley's deceased body was discovered, John arrives
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  Speaker 3: at the station. John explains that he and Ashley were
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  Speaker 3: together for over a decade. They had their first child young,
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  Speaker 3: and went on to raise four beautiful daughters. For the detective,
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  Speaker 3: one question matters most what does John think of Tyler?
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  Speaker 3: Is he capable of hurting Ashley or was he simply
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  Speaker 3: in the wrong place at the wrong time. But before that,
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  Speaker 3: something else weighs heavily on John. He still has to
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  Speaker 3: explain to his daughters why they will never hear their
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  Speaker 3: mother's voice again.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to let him know that she's no
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  Speaker 1: longer with Mom's no longer with you know, she's you know,
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  Speaker 1: she's an angel now. Yeah, the six year old and
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  Speaker 1: four year old Dale know, they're kind of, oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: an angel.
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  Speaker 4: They're going to talk a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit about it, and they're more concerned about how she's
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  Speaker 1: flying and everything. Right, I don't know what she's seen
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  Speaker 1: that's got me.
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  Speaker 4: Rod then as.
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  Speaker 3: Shape, you know, on that devastating note, the detective would
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  Speaker 3: shift the conversation to the final moments leading up to
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  Speaker 3: Ashley's death. Tragically, Ashley seemed to sense that Tyler might
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  Speaker 3: harm her, and just moments before she died, she would
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  Speaker 3: make her final cry for hell.
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  Speaker 9: When I see that he's calling, what runs in my
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  Speaker 9: head and it's great, we.
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  Speaker 1: Got some bows, bowl crap, we got some bull crap.
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  Speaker 9: They're they're in some kind of argument and they're trying
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  Speaker 9: to drag me into this and I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't want to be portio drama. I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: be portio drama.
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  Speaker 9: Nothing in the past has ever felt like there was
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  Speaker 9: anybody day talking to my kids. Kids never told me
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  Speaker 9: anything's going bad around the house, So I'm not really
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  Speaker 9: feeling too and do all this time, you know, I
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  Speaker 9: text back, I'm not trying to get yo's drama.
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  Speaker 1: That's when she texts, he won't leave.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 9: As soon as I got that, when I actually looked
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  Speaker 9: and seeing that he's not leaving, I called and she's
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  Speaker 9: like oh.
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  Speaker 1: And the first thing I go, what's going on? He's
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  Speaker 1: mad because he's he's got to leave.
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  Speaker 4: And I said, are my kids okay?
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  Speaker 11: Are kids safe?
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  Speaker 8: She said yes?
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  Speaker 9: Because I was a little concerned and I wasn't like
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  Speaker 9: super I'm straight for him to believe, like hung up
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  Speaker 9: and then I text her said talking to my kids please.
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  Speaker 9: At six fifty five, I just couldn't get hold of
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  Speaker 9: her and I was like, this is weird. This is
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  Speaker 9: just you know, it was just odd.
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  Speaker 3: This is the moment. At six fifty five pm, John
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  Speaker 3: lost all contact with Ashley and with it, the hope
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  Speaker 3: of ever rebuilding a future with her. Shortly thereafter, Detective
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  Speaker 3: Coolly wraps up his interview with John, who has made
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  Speaker 3: one thing clear. Ashley was a loving mother, incapable of
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  Speaker 3: harming anyone, and she deserves justice. Still not ready to
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  Speaker 3: begin Tyler's interrogation, fully aware that physical evidence against him
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  Speaker 3: is alarmingly weak, the detective instead brings in Ashley's other
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  Speaker 3: relatives to give their statements, hoping to better understand Tyler's
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  Speaker 3: character and whether he truly is a cold blooded murderer.
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  Speaker 3: And it doesn't take long for one thing to become clear.
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  Speaker 3: Every one of them deeply distrusted Tyler, to the point
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  Speaker 3: of even threatening his life, fearing he might one day
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  Speaker 3: snap and hurt Ashley.
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  Speaker 6: You know I did threaten him, you know I wanted
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  Speaker 6: him to leave, get out there, leave the girls alone,
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  Speaker 6: you know. I said, it's just you know, but I didn't,
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  Speaker 6: you know, And I went home and my wife and
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  Speaker 6: my daughter, you know, they talk some sense into you know,
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  Speaker 6: But I mean, thoughts crossed my mind. It's times now,
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: you know, if iry to carry that out, and I
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  Speaker 6: know it's bad, but Dad had the moment.
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  Speaker 13: He's there and he comes out and I think he
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  Speaker 13: shook my hand and I'm like, you know, hey, Tyler
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  Speaker 13: and has to meet you and whatnot. And he just
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  Speaker 13: goes straight in the door and picks up Ashley's guitar
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  Speaker 13: and goes and hikes his leg up on the damn
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  Speaker 13: trampoline and starts looking at the moon and playing guitar.
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  Speaker 11: And I'm like, Ashley, what is he doing?
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  Speaker 4: Can we just go inside?
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  Speaker 11: I don't wanna hear this prick playing or something, you
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  Speaker 11: know something.
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  Speaker 13: He stops and he come over there to pull us apart,
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  Speaker 13: and I just rar back and.
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  Speaker 11: Pushed him in the side of the head.
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  Speaker 13: And I had told her he needs to go, you know,
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  Speaker 13: you need to get the stone and get it, get
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  Speaker 13: it done, get him on the road, you know.
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  Speaker 11: Last couple of weeks she told me she hadn't made
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  Speaker 11: her decision.
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  Speaker 7: He did have to go, and this time it was
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  Speaker 7: for good.
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  Speaker 4: She said, I will be alone. And then this other guy,
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  Speaker 4: a man, and I talked with my wife about it.
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  Speaker 13: I said, I don't I don't understand why somebody that
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  Speaker 13: supposedly has got their living already set, you know, they
• 19:00
  Speaker 13: ain't even got to work for a living to start.
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  Speaker 11: Seeing as somebody that has four kids, they he has
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  Speaker 11: no kids, I said.
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  Speaker 6: The only thing I can think of maybe a stamped trust.
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  Speaker 4: That sounds suspicious to me, you know is?
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  Speaker 3: It quickly becomes clear to the detective that Ashley's relatives
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: all wish he had stayed with John instead of Tyler.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: A walking red flag, fully capable of snapping at any moment.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: But everything else investigators have is still circumstantial. Still, there's hope.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Police did find some concerning items in his car, multiple
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: antabolic drugs known to affect mood, judgment, and irritability. However,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: even with these findings, detectives are grasping its draws. Yet
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: with time slipping away, Detective Cooley knows he can't wait
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: any longer. It's time to come face to face with
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: their killer, who By this point has been waiting for hours,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: growing increasingly impatient to speak with the right lawyer. He
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: has a real chance to walk free with that one.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: A single wrong word could now cost him his freedom
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: for life and for Detective Coolly, this isn't just another case.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Ashley was his friend, someone he had known for years.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Now he has to sit across from the man who
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: has already confessed to killing her.
• 20:21
  Speaker 11: Okay, if I record, it's just help me keep everything
• 20:24
  Speaker 11: in track.
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: So my biggest thing is is I want to know
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: who you are, because that's very important. We need to
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: know who Ashley is.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: That's very important.
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: It's not just the events of what happened tonight, it's
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: the it's the whole totality of the history with you guys,
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: because that's gonna help best explain everything that led up
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: to where we're at. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: that you remember the say and the truth will set
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: you free. The truth will set you free in here.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: It's up to you. I can't make you. I would
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: love to know, we would all love.
• 20:57
  Speaker 11: To know, just for the sake of you and it
• 21:01
  Speaker 11: asch Actually, obviously.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: I mean I feel like giving a statement just because
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I'm here. I don't know how long we wait for
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: a lawyer to get here or whatever, but I just
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: wanted to talk about what happened, you know, tonight.
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: So I don't know if that's you know, I think
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: it's important because right now we've got obviously with I.
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: Think I need to tell what happens about six pm
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: A little round sixtem' run.
• 21:21
  Speaker 15: I'm quite sure when it was when I called the
• 21:23
  Speaker 15: actual police department called on one one well, I had
• 21:27
  Speaker 15: left it as there were four children in the house
• 21:32
  Speaker 15: and a woman from the outset.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Detectives suspect Tyler has a plan and that turning himself
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: in may have been his first step in trying to
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: appear more innocent, and as the interrogation unfolds, that plan
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: becomes crystal clear. Everything that happened that night was, according
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: to him, Ashley's fault.
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: The woman and I have had an altercation with a
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: loaded weapon and she had a bullet in her head.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Every initiated like violent contact on her, like that I'm
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: not the one that pulled the gun, like I don't
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: have the gun. I don't want the gun. I don't
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: want an indispuse with a gun. No attention to shoot. Actually, no,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: I've never had. I don't want to take a mother
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: away from her four kids, like, that's not my thing.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I closed the door. I locked the bedroom door to
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: the bedroom so the kids don't go in there. I
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: had emptied out the gun. It was empty, and I
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: left it there and I went out. I didn't know
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: what the fuck to do. I'm sorry. I wasn't perfect.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: The kids were there. There's a nine year old there
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: that's really responsible and was watching the kids.
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: The neighbors were outside across the street, or I had
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: seen neighbors outside at one point across the street.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I felt like I just needed to go and be like,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: this just happened. So I drove to marking a lot
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: down the street and just called that hole one.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: In Tyler's own words, the shooting was merely an altercation,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: but what stands out even more is how he refers
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: to Ashley only as a woman, never as his partner
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: or ax. Up until this point, Tyler has not shown
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: any emotion when talking about Ashley, but detectives can sense
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: something beneath the surface. Tyler avoids eye contact, He rambles fidgets,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: and appears restless, almost like He's on the verge of
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: a breakdown, and the moment detectives ask about Ashley's children,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Tyler would finally crack.
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: And She's got how many keys?
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: That's what I was told you. Okay, do you know
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: their names and ages?
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: Yes?
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Emma's two, Josie's four, Lexi is six, and Riley
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: is nine.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 23:48
  Speaker 11: Were they all at aush tonight?
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Yes? Okay.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: This is the first real emotion detectives have seen, but
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: they needed to determine whether this is genuine guilt, a
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: calculated tactic, or emotional instability tied to his anabolic substance abuse.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Aware that Tyler could shut down the interview at any moment,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Detective Coolly grows more cautious, so he starts carefully probing
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Tyler about any problems in his relationship with Ashley. And
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: this is when Tyler would.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Slip up for five years. And I felt like a
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: man of honor, and I had a ring on and
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I was proud of it. I was proud to be married.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: I was proud to be a good husband.
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: And I fell into this, this weird relationship that I
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: never wanted, you know, to be in. I've never wanted
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: to be a part of.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: And I just went down this road that I just
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: kind of felt like I could never escape from, like
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: drowning in it, you know.
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: So I'm just like, like I was able to divorce
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: in Oregon. You know, it went through in just wa
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: a couple of months, like a couple of months.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: It was finalized when I was done her thing.
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: It's been a year, right, it takes a year for
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: them to like do the separation process and everything. And
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: so we've just been kind of in that rowind back
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: and forth with everything and stuff, and I've thought about
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: leaving multiple times. I've wanted to leave multiple times, just
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: be as this kind of too much to just take,
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: being like, am I taking.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: This woman away from? Am I taking this man away
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: from four kids? Like his four kids whatever.
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: I just have felt fel love of guilt in my
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: life in this relationship.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: According to Tyler, he felt guilty and was planning to
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: walk away from the relationship, but detectives already know this
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: isn't true. Ashley's ex husband has already shown investigator's messages
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: in which she repeatedly complained that Tyler refused to leave. Additionally,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: detectives uncovered love letters exchanged between Tyler and his ex wife,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: proof he wasn't trapped at all to my love. By
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: the time you see this letter, you're miles away from me.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Don't be mad. I hid one last love letter in
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: your things. You defeated the world to get to me.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I'm never going to forget about you. Don't forget about me.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I hope you're ready for when we meet again. It's
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: clear to the detectives that Tyler left his marriage by
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: choice and could have gone back at any moment, so
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Detective Cooley would push further in to the dynamics of
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: their relationship, asking whether things had ever turned abusive. It's
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: at this moment that Tyler's mask would slip, revealing a
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: deep insecurity about his masculinity and a resentment towards Ashley
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: he could no longer hide.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Has it ever become physically? She ever hit you, struck
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: you kicked you, slapped you. Flap comes just kinda slap
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: with things, shoes or something like that.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: She's hitting me with like shoes and stuff. Anger, frustration. Yeah,
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: she hits you hard. I mean just like a I
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: mean I don't want something to do. I mean she
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: just slapped me with like a with her like slippers.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: We're talking about it. It's kind of like that across
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: the when she was mad about something.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, so you know, like the way I picture
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: is like if my wife agitated with me or aggravated
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: with me, she pops.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Me with something. Yeah, are we saying something like that
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: or are we saying she aggressively No, like you know,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: pops you with something. I'm saying the middle ground of
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: that just kind of like a piste about something. But
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: just that's how she rafting to it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: But she wasn't like overly like I'd never seen a
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: level of aggression till this talking point with the gun.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know where that came from. I have no idea.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: I've never seen her do any can pull any shit
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: like that ever, I didn't even know she could.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: But now Tyler would inadvertently reveal something far more disturbing
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: about himself. As part of their custody agreement, Ashley wasn't
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: allowed to have anyone stay overnight, including Tyler, a rule
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: he knew very well, and as soon as their relationship
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: began to fall apart, Tyler's first instinct was to expose
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: that violation to her ex husband, knowing full well it
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: would cost Ashley custody of her children, and.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: So our relationship was really falling out here, and uh,
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: I've threatened to tell him the truth.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: When I was getting ready to leave, I was going
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: to call her husband and be like, I have been
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: spend the night here. I don't know what legal ramification
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: is gonna have for you guys, in your life and
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: your world. I've been in the relation with you. This
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: relationship has hurt me in a lot of ways.
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: I've sacrificed all things, and for me to go and
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: have closure, I think that like, I'm just gonna let
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: John know the whole suit that he deserves another truth.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: And I'm sorry it was kind of an ugly ending
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: for both of us, this woman and I.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Tyler has just shown how quickly he can retaliate and
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: how easily he could justify harming ash Like whenever he
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: felt the need to do so. But according to Tyler,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: what happened next wasn't just another argument. He claims Ashley
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: suddenly escalated the situation to a deadly level by pulling
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: a gun on him.
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: She has a loaded gun, or she has a gun
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: in her drawer next to the bed, and I was
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: in the bedroom talking with her, and she loaded her
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: gun and cocked it back.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: And basically told me that she wasn't gonna let him
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: call and tell them. And so this just went to
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: like a thousand, like zero to one thousand and like
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: one blink of an eye.
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: Shit, I'm like in the bedroom talking with her, having
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: a normal conversation and she's a loading gun in front
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: of my face and she has a pistol.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Like literally packing some stuff, putting some stuff in the drawers.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: I wasn't doing shit. I didn't hit her. I wasn't
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: like fighting her or anything. I was just talking and
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: she like loaded her gun and was pointing at me.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I just know that, like that's where that started from.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that like like do some dig
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: myself in the grain, like oh the past, he never
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: saw it happen, and now she did that sounds like bullshit. No,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: she did it though. I'm a man, I'm a lot
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: stronger than her.
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: I was aggressive, but it was like she's not she's
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: shot that gun before she knows what the fuck she's
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: doing with that. I don't shoot guns. I didn't like
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: barely shot a gun in my life. And so the
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: whole way it happened, I feel like for me, I
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: didn't mean to do anything. I didn't mean for her
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: to do anything. It was like basically felt like it
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: was like just fighting for my life. And I feel
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: like it was like this is how it ended.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: According to Tyler, this chaotic struggle wasn't aggression, it was survival.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Detectives continue to press for details about what happened in
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: the bathroom and what Tyler would say next would either
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: support his self defense claim or unravel it completely.
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: Okay, how long from the time she came into the
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: bathroom to where it escalated to the point she gets shot,
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: talking about seconds or minutes.
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: Two minutes probably just struggling, two minutes fighting, trying to
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: It's a combination of talking, moving the gun around each other.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: It's just like I'm trying to grab her, I'm trying
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: to hold onto her. It's just like it was just
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: just felt like it was like fight for survival. I
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: don't know what was going on. I felt like she
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: was gonna kill me.
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: So at no point you stripped the gun from her
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: and had the gun in your hand totally.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Not until it was over, not until she was on
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: the ground. Were you on top? Was she on top? Behind?
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: She you were behind like kind of like this like
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: kind of trying to do like a choke cold ship
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: thing or something.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: She was like trying to get the gun to me.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: So it was just in our general facial areas. Okay,
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: after the shot, what happens? I don't even I don't.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I stood there and I couldn't believe what the fuck happened.
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: And the first thing I thought of was is I
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: have to call somebody. I have to get someone here.
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: I have to stand up for what I've done.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Tyler is becoming increasingly more agitated, forcing detectives to call
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: a short break, concerned that pushing any further would cause
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: him to shut down completely. But the moment they step
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: outside the interrogation room, everything changes. New evidence comes in
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: and it directly contradicts Tyler's story. Tyler claims Ashley had
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: the gun in her hand and they were fighting over
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: the weapon, but when Ashley's body was discovered, her phone
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: was still in her right hand, her dominant hand, meaning
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: she hadn't been holding a weapon in the moments before
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: she was shot. Then came the most damning detail. Ashley's
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: hair was found inside the barrel of the gun. Combined
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: with skull fracture patterns, it proved the weapon had been
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: firmly pressed against her skin when fired. This wasn't self defense,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: this was a cold blooded execution. This was exactly what
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: detectives needed. Armed with this evidence, detective coolly re enters
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: the room, and this time he's ready to confront Tyler
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: about his story. But to the detective's surprise, his controlled
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: demeanor has disappeared, and Tyler is about to lash.
• 32:15
  Speaker 11: Out, Well, do you feel like it probably just got
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: out of hand?
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: Yes, I think our whole relationship is out of panda,
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: And I think that I've never had someone do that
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: to me.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: I've never had someone get that mad at me that
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: they loaded weapon in their house. The kids were asleep.
• 32:30
  Speaker 12: It was two nights ago, and she cocks it back,
• 32:31
  Speaker 12: and she's standing there like all cocky, looking at me
• 32:34
  Speaker 12: like she's gonna like she knows what she's gonna do
• 32:36
  Speaker 12: with it.
• 32:37
  Speaker 11: I mean, why not, if this lady's got a gun,
• 32:40
  Speaker 11: why not just get the hell out of there.
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: Because though she had never done anything else before, I
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: just the other night, two nights ago.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I don't even know why.
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: I let that go.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I should have left the house. I guess is it
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: fair to like say I was afraid from my life?
• 32:53
  Speaker 11: Though?
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Yes, Like is that fair to say that?
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: I mean, I feel like the dude the cop out
• 32:57
  Speaker 12: there was like, oh, big dude, And I feel like
• 32:59
  Speaker 12: it's not fair if it's like you look like you
• 33:01
  Speaker 12: could held yourself. You could have just like punched her
• 33:03
  Speaker 12: in the face or like kicked her or something or
• 33:06
  Speaker 12: like like done something. And I'm like, I don't know, man,
• 33:09
  Speaker 12: one bullet goes off and you're fucked. Yeah, I just
• 33:12
  Speaker 12: felt like it was like for me, it's not about that,
• 33:14
  Speaker 12: that's right, It's about it was a fight for literally
• 33:16
  Speaker 12: like she I don't know.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: What the fuck she's gonna do. She threatened the night.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: So now I'm just like, I don't even know. It
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: just feels like it was an accident. I didn't try
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: to murder any but I didn't try to kill anyone.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know how.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know what happened. I don't know. I worked
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: in the medical film. I know that it's not good.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I know that Tyler's words no longer sound like the
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: frustration of a man defending himself. They sound like hostility
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: towards someone he blames for everything that happened. But this
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: is when Tyler would start to realize he isn't coming
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: across the way he hoped, and when detectives press a
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: little harder, they're about to make their biggest mistake, pushing
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Tyler to shut down completely.
• 34:00
  Speaker 11: We're still missing some things that I feel that you're
• 34:05
  Speaker 11: kind of you're kind.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Of rushing through, and I think it's proussing today. I
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: just want to feel like I'm like someone's like on
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: my kind of listen, like on my side, on your side.
• 34:16
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: No, I'm not trying to I know I've seen this
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: in the movies. I know what I'm trying to do.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Like it's like the more I tell now, it's like,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: the better it looks like.
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: The more I just tell now, it's like, but I'm
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: getting to that place where it's like where at like
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: the heart of everything that happened.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to be really careful with like if I
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: fuck up or if I say something stupid, I don't
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: know what.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: The more I talk, I feel like the more it's
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: like gonna look like, oh man, dude, I'm trying to
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: explain the best.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I can of what happened right now.
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: The whole world is they know what just happened is
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: probably like that guy's a piece of shit, So I
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: might feel really alone where I like don't have anyone.
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: My family's not here, No one's here. I understand. I
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: understand the national is not here either, and I'm trying
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: to process that ship right now.
• 34:55
  Speaker 11: But what we're gonna do is we're gonna refrain from
• 34:59
  Speaker 11: any more questions. If you feel compelled to re engage
• 35:04
  Speaker 11: or say anything, you are more than welcome.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: You know, I appreciate you guys be impatient with me.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: I know you guys got to some people in Steven.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to tell you that they don't want
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: counsel and don't want to tell more and more and more, I.
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: Just feel like I'm at that point of looking at
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  Speaker 7: that piece of paper when I told you I want
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  Speaker 7: to go to tell someone.
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  Speaker 4: As I'm kind of like sitting heracle and like what
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  Speaker 4: you're saying, you're saying maybe maybe some counsel. I know
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  Speaker 4: you guys are counseling right now and I'm appreciating it,
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  Speaker 4: but I need someone else. It just feels like it's
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  Speaker 4: like there's this man.
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  Speaker 3: It's at this point that Tyler refuses to answer any
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  Speaker 3: more questions until his lawyer arrives. But with the evidence
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  Speaker 3: stacked against him, Tyler would ultimately be charged with second
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  Speaker 3: degree murder and four counts of child abandonment. He would
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  Speaker 3: go to trial maintaining that he acted in self defense,
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  Speaker 3: but the States case would be overwhelming. Tyler would be
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  Speaker 3: found guilty on all charges and sentenced to life in
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  Speaker 3: prison with no chance of parole. Thank you for watching
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  Speaker 3: and supporting our to help the four children affected by
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  Speaker 3: this tragic case. We've set up a GoFundMe and began
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  Speaker 3: with a ten thousand dollars donation from the Doctor and
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  Speaker 3: Sanity team. The funds will primarily go towards therapy and
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  Speaker 3: educational expenses, helping give these children the best possible chance
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  Speaker 3: despite what they've been through.