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03/28/2024 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Angie Gillenwater, Renee Lester, Eric Tarr, Joe Manchin, and Dale Cooper · The Dave Allen Show

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on the show this morning. To put it mildly, coming up on the
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show a little bit later on, Senator Joe Manchin is going to be here.
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It's opening day for the Red So you know, I've had to carve
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out a little bit of time to talk about that. Senator Eric tar is
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going to be stopping Byplus we're gonna get an update on some things going on
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at West Virginia State University. But before we get into all that, I'm
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sure by now you have seen the video and heard us talking about read the
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stories online about the incident yesterday at the canaw Trost Newmaine Association. Angie.
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Angie Gillenwater is with us right now to talk about exactly what happened up there.
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Angie, good morning and welcome to the show. Sorry you had to
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be there on these circumstances though, Oh good morning. Yeah, it was
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quite a day yesterday. Indeed, it was the U haul basically just crashed
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into the sheltered building yesterday. Now I understand that you were on site several
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other staff members were, but you were not open to the public at that
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time, is that right, correct? So we opened to the public at
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noon. The crash happened right around eleven AM, so our staff were still
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cleaning and preparing to open to the public, and all of a sudden,
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every like everyone that was in the building reported here in like a loud boom,
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almost like thunder. But it was a beautiful day yesterday, and everyone
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was like, huh, what was that? And then when we started to
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see the damage is when we all like kind of jumped into panic mode,
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right, yeah, And it was a pretty horrific scene that there was a
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U haul that crashed of the building. And I know you're not playing detective
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here. We'll let the experts take care of that. I understand Charleston Police's
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lost an investigation into it, but basically what we hear is is that the
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driver's reporting that his accelerator stuck and he ran the U haul into the building.
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And if you've ever been up there, as many of our listeners probably
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had, it's not very conducive to you haul driving to begin with up there,
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and you've had a fair assessment, yeah, I would say that's pretty
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fair, especially to even cross the bridge to get to the shelter's parking lot
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is a it's a very very very narrow bridge, so kind of kind of
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crazy he even made it across the bridge to get to the parking lot.
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I mean, do we have that? What was I mean, you don't
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have to get into it if you don't want to, because we don't want
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to, you know, jeopardize an investigation. But was it like a potential
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person there to drop something off or to pick up a animal or do we
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know? So he was actually there to pick up his animal. We had
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had his animal on just like a regular straight hold, and he was there
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to actually come and get him. And okay, okay, so we understand
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that there was one injury to a dog, but the dog's going to be
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okay? Is that right? Yes? Correct? The the crash site,
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a couple of cinder blocks had fallen. Uh. We have pictures on our
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Facebook where you can see where the cinder blocks had fallen into a couple of
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the kennels. And what had happened with that dog. Best we can figure
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is a cinder block fell on her, but luckily she was a great Pyrenees
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and is walking away with just a slight limp, and I know the community
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really rallied around because you went on social media said hey, we need fosters.
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How many dogs did you have to get fostered? So we were sending
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every single thing we had on the building just to just to keep everyone at
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the safety of all the animals and are in everyone's best interest. So we
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sent animals that were on like curl seahold, animals that were on stray hold,
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animals that were on medical hold, as long as the fosters felt comfortable
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knowing that info. And yesterday we sent one hundred and forty six animals out
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the foster one and forty six. I keep saying dogs, but I forget
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there are other animals up there too. What do you need and she from
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the public at this time, so we still need all of our regular supplies.
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We are supplying everything for fosters if they you know, if they need
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the items, so food bowls, blankets, towels, and then something we
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went through yesterday that we were not prepared for. We went through an insane
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amount of clip leashes and slip leashes. So if you are able to donate
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either of those, that would be great as well, because our building is
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almost completely out of leashes. What it would be the best way for people
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to donate. I know that you've been doing a great job as a set
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on your social media and your Facebook page. What's the best way for people
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to actually make the donations, Angie? So if you're wanting to donate actual
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physical items, you can still come up to the shelter and draw off those
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donations. We're just going to try to limit everyone's time in the building as
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much as possible, just to keep everyone safe. The building is temporarily stable
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at this time, so we you know, the fire department and us,
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we all feel comfortable having people sought by to draw off donations. We would
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greatly appreciate it. If you aren't able to get up to the sheltered'l
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so comfortable coming up to the shelter. You can make a monetary donation on
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our Facebook or Instagram page. All right, Angie, I know it's trying
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times for you folks up there, but I wanted to try to give an
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update for our listeners this morning. I appreciate you being here, and I'll
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have Hannah on tomorrow. Hopefully we'll be able to try to get back to
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something something a bit of normalcy to try to get our weekly pet adopted tomorrow.
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Angie, I appreciate you being here. Thanks a lot problem Thanks for
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having me. Angie gilling Water again, the community Engagement director for the Canal
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don't know can hurt you. Want to bring in now, Rene La,
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who is with West Virginia State University, the executive director of Career Services.
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That get your title right, Renine, you did. Good morning, Thanks
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for having me, Thank you for being here. I heard about a program
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on our stations actually last week that you guys are doing called the Yellow Jacket
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Career Closet. Talk about that program. Yes, we're super excited. Through
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a partnership with Diversified Energy, they gave us funds to do with the startup
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construct that space into what is now the Yellowjacket Career Closet. So it is
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for current West Virginia State University students. They do have to be enrolled,
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but it's going to allow them to be able to come in and receive professional
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clothing for an upcoming interview, first day on the job, the etiquette dinner,
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or any other professional networking event. And the students will have the ability
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to acquire professional clothing at no cost to them and they keep them. So
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the clothing, once the student takes it, it's theirs. So we're looking
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at people got some things that they would like to get rid of. We
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wanted to be good quality though. Yeah, maybe you're like me and you
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just outgrow them. How's that. Yes, we are asking anyone that is
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willing to donate that they be freshly cleaned and in good condition. But we
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are also looking for just business professional clothing, so dress pants, dress shirts,
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suits, dress shoes, ties, handbags, briefcases, things like that.
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But yes, please good condition only. Okay, well, that's completely
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understandable. Kind of what dates are we looking at on this? What's your
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timeframe on this? So we're going to be continuing to accept donations throughout the
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summer months and then moving forward we will do a specific targeted drives. But
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right now we are looking for both women's and men's professional clothing and all sizes.
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I will say that we have specific needs right now for men's dress pants
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and women's larger sizes. Right now we don't have a whole large We don't
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have a lot of variety in women's plus sizes, so you would like to
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carry a variety of sizes for both men and women. So we will accept
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all donations, but that's specifically what we are in need of at this time.
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Okay, and where can people what's the best way to do the donation?
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Just take them to the campus or to contact you? What do you
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need people to do so either, So if you would like to drop off
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in person, you can drop off at the Office of Career Services which is
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located in Wallace Hall, room one oh eight. If you would like for
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us to make arrangements to pick up, you can contact our office at three
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oh four seven six six thirty two fifty or you can email Careers at Wvstate
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dot edu and we are happy to make arrangements to pick up or if you're
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willing to drop them off, you can do so. I think it's an
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awesome program. I mean, I really really do, because these young minds
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that you've got, and sometimes not not even young minds, you're just minds
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that you're trying to mold up there and you've you've got to be able to
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get them, you know, dressed for success, as they say. And
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I think it's a great program. While we're talking about careers, we're talking
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with the Renee Lester of West Virginia State University. You've got a career and
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employment expo going on on Monday. Talk about it. So it's actually next
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Thursday. Not my fault, I'm sorry. Ten to two. It's open
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to all West Virginia State University students, recent graduates, and the general public.
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We currently have fifty four vendors registered and it's a wide variety of industries,
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so we encourage all students in the general public to attend that. Whether
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you're looking for part time, full time internship opportunities, it's a good way
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to network and just meet with different organizations. Let's reach out to the talk
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about employers right now, I mean, can employers still sign up for this?
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Right now? We have a wait list Mexica pasity. That's a good
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problem to have. If an employer would like to get on the wait list,
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they can contact our office and we would put them on a wait list.
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That way, if someone is not able to attend, we can reach
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out to them. And I think that this is really really great because you're
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not only going to have, as you mentioned, not only perspective employers,
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but you're also going to have folks like at other universities that offer graduate type
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programs. So it's think of it as a future fair I guess right,
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because it's not just employers, it's not We have West Virginia State University graduate
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programs and then surrounding universities Concord Marshal that are going to be promoting graduate programs.
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So any student that's wanting to continue their education is also encouraged to stop
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buy and get information about graduate programs would be at our university or a surrounding
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university. Have a lot of good stuff going on out there at West Virginia
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State University. I mean, it amazes me the different things that you have
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going on out there. I think it's a testament to the staff of West
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Virginia State, mister Cage and everybody that just do a fantastic job out there.
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Rene Lester, the Westernginia State University, Executive Director of Career Services.
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Again, the fair is Monday, Thursday. I even oad it right here,
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it's Thursday. It's Thursday next week. Information is available where information is
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available on our website and you can also contact our office directly. Three oh
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four seven sixty six three zero one four is my direct number. All right,
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well, rethe appreciate being on the show today. Thanks a lot,
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the Cincinnati Reds. They're still in contention at this point for the World Series
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and for the playoffs. Mister Tarr, you're aware of that, right you
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know? Actually I was not aware of that. They're still there. I've
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just came out of hibernation underneath that the Gold Dome over there. They are
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undefeated. The Reds are undefeated at this point. This is our year,
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man, It's a big deal. Cider Ary, Taris and financi chairs here.
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You've got some important business that you've got to talk about. The outside
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politics. I do. I have to say happy birthday to my mom Brenda
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out there. I know she's listening right now. So she's got a big
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birthday tomorrow and family's all celebrating that. So happy birthday, My happy birthday,
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Mama Tar. That should be a country song that sounds like it's like
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Merle Haggard. Mama tried, you know, but Mama Tar, you know,
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we got a we got a family. I people plays bluegrass. I'm
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sure we can make there. You go, do you do? You play
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yourself? I try to go along when they're doing. I can harmonize with
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them, but I just can't keep up the fair I just can't see you.
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Eric could be all, with all due respect, I just can't see
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you. Maybe you could like play the jug or something like that. Because
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all my family are musicians except for me, I'm the only one the entire
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family that does some players well you know, well that's with me. I
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try. I'm with people and I can sing just low enough that they out,
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yeah, I do my voice and have fun with it. As an
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old bluegrass picker from Logan Counties to say, he sings in the key of
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L, and then he would say, well it sounds like L. Yeah,
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just say it fast, Just say it fast. So we were a
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couple of weeks with the session behind us. Right now, give me an
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overall view of this session. You know, it is a very different session
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than what we typically have, just because you know, friends and enemies alike.
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I pretty much conceded that almost every election in West Virginia has won in
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the Republican primary, and you know, in years past, I think this.
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I have a little frustration with this session. I've been telling people that
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this is the most stressful session I've ever served in my time up here,
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and that when we came in as Republican majority in twenty fifteen and had eighteen
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members majority in the Senate, you know, everybody, we were busting down
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walls, and the Republicans thought, you know, we've got two years and
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Democrats probably getting this back, so we're going to make all the changes we
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possibly can and just win on a full steam charge. Well it's changed a
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bit now, you know. So now it's it's kind of a given that
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most of the races are one in Republican primary, and that's conceded by you
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know, the people that the Republicans typically are juxtaposed to, which is your
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personal injury lawyers, it's the teachers' unions, it's labor unions, and those
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groups are the ones that all fund races against Republicans. And so now that
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everybody including them, have conceded that's where the races are won. They're trying
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to jump into Republican races and you have these big, mega majorities, and
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suddenly they're playing it safe in this primary election. So the first time I've
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ever seen Republicans play it safe during a session because of elections. And so
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for me, that's frustrating because I'm a guy who tends to, you know,
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just what's what's the policy do, and that's what we're gonna do,
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what's the best with policy, and so fighting that political that political push with
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a logical mind is difficult for me. So it created a lot of stress
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in the session. But overall, there were some big wins in this session,
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especially around the opioid stuff this which was kind of a we knew we
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were going to focus on some of the drug addiction stuff in this session and
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things that that circle around that, like human trafficking, some of the enablement
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things that happened to that facilitates the trafficking of drugs and humans in West Virginia,
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and we had some pretty powerful legislation around at this session. So I'm
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proud of that. If you had to give it a senator an overall grade,
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an overall grade, oh man, we probably had a C plus to
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B minus, I would say, is what the overall grade is? I
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think that we probably spent a little bit more than I would like this session.
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What's interesting about that C minus grade is I've talked to people on both
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sides of the eye. Head on Fred Albert from AFT, I think that's
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the grade he gave it. I think so on different sides of the eye.
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Everybody seems to say it was a C minus. Yeah, we might
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have heard D. It's what That's what I've mainly got. I don't think
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I go down to D. I think we had given what the governor started
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with the state of State address, it could have been a whole lot worse.
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You know. One of the things we got right now is you know,
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for decades, if you're if I'm over fifty years old, if you're
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fifty years old, you can remember when West Virginia you weren't sure if you're
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a public employee, you're going to get your paycheck cashed. You know.
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So there were times and that. So for years and years and years and
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years, question Nias lived paycheck to paycheck to paycheck, and you're you're adjusting
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what you're eating next week based on what you got left in that paycheck that
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week. And so for the first time really here in the past couple of
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years, Western has some money in his pocket. It's because we've had these
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really fiscally conservative policies and we've we've held the line on spending and those type
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of things, and we've applied spending to things that bring money back or save
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money. And so this session, there's a really hard push all the way
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from day one to the State of State address to spend everything that was in
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every little pocket. And so it was a challenge to hold that spending control.
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And so we went a little more than I would like, but overall
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we could have been It could have been a lot worse. You know,
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Eric, and you and I have been friends for a number of years,
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long before I started doing this show. And I can say things to you
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and you don't get offended by them, and and vice versa, and we
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have in the past. I consider you to be far right, Okay,
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that's that's not a bad thing. Okay, necessarily, you know, you
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wouldn't take offense to that, But there were some in the legislature this year
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that, quite frankly, in the opinion of a lot of people, went
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far far right. You probably even scratched your head a couple of times at
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some of the at some of the things that the far far right went for.
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Do you have any concerns that maybe the Republican Party in the state may
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be going too far right? No? No, really, I think when
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it comes right down to I would consider myself far right, but not a
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counter conservative, and so and what I think that you may be calling far
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right are people that I would call counter conservative. In other words, our
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politics probably line up pretty close, but the method you use to accomplish that
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policy is extremely different from the way that I would accomplish that policy. I
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apply pragmatism to the politics. What I would call counter conservatives have no pragmatism,
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and they get in their own way for the way that they try to
22:57
legislate. And so there's a lot of that within within the Republican Party,
23:00
but the party itself is split right down the middle. And it's a frustration
23:04
to me from a person who would consider themselves far right, and I think
23:10
the evidence of that happened in with the rushing of Republican State Executive Committee when
23:14
we went in and had the vote whether to close primaries this year, and
23:18
that excuse me, that amendment failed by six votes and there was one hundred
23:22
and twenty people in the room, you know, so when you when you
23:25
look at and that vote, I think was a measure of where does the
23:29
party stand, you know, is it where is it the on the spectrum
23:33
of conservatism, So to me, I think right now, and I think
23:37
the legislature reflects on a lot of the bills come through is split right down
23:40
the middle. It's that way in our caucus. I think it's that way
23:41
in the House to do. And this is not unusual. I mean that
23:45
the Democrats for eighty three years that they controlled Westernian you probably had similar type
23:49
issues because you had and I've talked to some folks at Danny Jones being one
23:52
that served at one point, and several friends of mine that served in the
23:56
eighties, and they talk about that about how the Democrats had similar issues.
24:00
Whenever somebody has complete control super majorities, this sort of thing kind of happens.
24:07
Let's go back to that you were one of the ones that I think
24:10
really wanted to close the primary. You were very adamant about that. Why
24:15
do you feel so strongly about that area? It goes off the first statement
24:19
I made about that everybody realizes that in this election the races are one of
24:23
the Republican primary. So the trial attorneys realized that, labor unions realized that
24:29
teachers unions realize that. And in the past, the way that those groups
24:33
would go in and take a Republican seat, and it's fairly recent pass there
24:37
has been two Republican seats in the Senate that have been one. This way
24:40
is they would have people who would traditionally that were in that independent group that
24:42
would normally vote in the Democrat primary. They went out and pushed for those
24:47
people to vote in the Republican primary and put a far left Republican in a
24:52
seat of a place where a conservative had been sitting. So that was when
24:59
they thought, you know, maybe we win these seats, maybe we don't.
25:02
Well, now they know that's the only way they can win these seats.
25:04
And so what's going to happen is you normally you have about a third
25:07
of the independence that vote Democrat primary tickets now, and then you have about
25:11
two thirds ago Republican. So what's going to happen now is all of those
25:17
are going to be voting in the primary. So you got that that whole
25:18
one third that now jumps into Republican primaries and pulls the Republican party left.
25:23
That's going to happen this election. And so if we would have closed those
25:27
primaries, those people who now are going to choose side, they might have
25:32
two sides. You know. I met with somebody last night who said,
25:34
you know what, he's been a Democrat all his life, just changed Republican
25:38
or actually the Independent not long ago. And so I had breakfast with him
25:41
mystery morning. He said. He said, Dag gone, eirkis I want
25:44
to switch my part of Republican now? And uh? And I said,
25:48
I said, well you got till the next election to do it now.
25:51
He goes, yeah, he said, it's because you guys changing that in
25:52
there. And I said, but I said, you just proved my point
25:55
on what I was saying. You're picking the side, and he's a democratic's
25:59
life. He's further right than I am, but he's to your points that
26:02
he's a Mingo County Democrat. You know, so I was gonna say,
26:04
Eric, there's a lot of this. I'm from Logan Counties and listeners know,
26:07
and I mean everything was decided in the Democratic primary down there for years,
26:12
even the most far all of the points that are Republicans, you know,
26:17
whether it's abortion issues, whether it's you know, you name it,
26:19
but they were all still a registered Democrat. Do you are you worried though,
26:23
that some of those people, maybe the older types kind of setting their
26:27
ways that just I'm going to stay a Democrat because Papaul would turn over in
26:30
his grave or whatever. I've heard all that before. Are you worried that
26:34
some of those folks that you may turn off, some of those people that
26:38
just can't seem to put that R behind their name. I think some of
26:41
those would be turned off. I don't think it's high lot, and I
26:44
think you're going to hear a lot of moaning and groaning and griping, but
26:47
they're gonna switch. And the reason I think that is is because the Democrats
26:49
are in his country so far left. They are abolishing so many of our
26:56
freedoms. At big city after big city after big city, you can see
26:59
it the blue cities and blue states are bleeding people like crazy because people are
27:03
running from those type policies in this election when you have Trump and Biden,
27:10
who are going to be in this general election coming up. In this primary,
27:12
you got so many people who want to run to the ballot in West
27:15
Virginia and throw that vote for Trump as fast as they can. Not so
27:19
much just because they're so excited about Trump. It's because they are so fed
27:22
up with the Liberals, and so when if they're those people, they're switching
27:27
to Republican to go make that vote. If we had closed them in this
27:32
primary, and it's going to be revisited in twenty twenty six, I understand,
27:37
Is that right? Well, no, it's in twenty twenty six.
27:37
Is closed? It is going to be closed, Okay, But I mean,
27:41
is that a done deal? Because I have heard rumors that there could
27:44
be in twenty twenty six there could be some more discussion about it. I
27:48
know you'll be out there trying to fight that. So yeah. So I
27:51
mean it's we're always going to have more votes between now and then, So
27:52
if somebody wants to try to keep them open, and there's an effort made
27:56
I'm sure we'll be discussing that again, so there's time for those that are
28:02
opposing closing that primary in twenty twenty six. I think that they'll have time
28:04
to mount that effort. You know, I don't know where we'll be then,
28:07
though. Can I read a couple of texts here for you? Sure
28:11
you're always good about that? Text says I'd give this year this year's legislature
28:15
at f for failure for families, foster kids, and disabled children and adults
28:19
by the fanatical far right. No. No, And I think that's a
28:22
misunderstanding of how we are budgeting now. You know, one of the people
28:26
in our in the staff and the Senate, who's been around this budgeting process
28:30
for a while, he said, you know what he said, Eric,
28:32
He said, we have fundamentally changed how Westergia makes a budget now. And
28:37
we did, and I'll tell you how we did that is because of what
28:40
the governor brought us in the state of the state was such a fantasy of
28:45
spending that we knew that we couldn't go from what traditionally what happens is the
28:48
governor comes in, presents his budget and we work off that budget to build
28:52
a budget. Well, what had to happen this time was that that wasn't
28:57
something we could work off of. So we worked off last budget and we
29:00
looked at what appropriate spending would be relative to the needs of West Virginia and
29:06
when we will come back, because now there's several things that are different.
29:10
One is that we're in surplus situations for a while now. To give an
29:15
example, and what we used to happen as government come and give revenue estimate,
29:18
Now is it you hope you got that much money? Well, now
29:21
what he's given two revenue estimates comes in says we have a revenue estment of
29:23
five point two two billion, but we also expect some hundred eighty million surplus.
29:27
What's a six billion dollars total revenue estimate. The thing is that that
29:33
revenue is declining fast with the tax cuts, and so when we went in
29:37
and started looking at this, we knew we're going to be back two or
29:38
three times before next next into the fiscal year, and we continual adjust that
29:45
budget. When we come back in, we come in for our interim sessions,
29:48
we can do special sessions over top of that, and we can go
29:49
in look now much better at an agency spending and find out did they really
29:55
need that much on the appropriation instead of playing more of your money, instead
29:57
of pulling more money out of day Allen's pocket and paying for those services.
30:02
We can now go in and look and say, you know what, they
30:03
didn't use all the money we gave them here, We're going to transfer that
30:07
money over here to where we've probably underappropriated a little bit. We couldn't do
30:10
that before. This is the first time ever we have that opportunity. So
30:14
the way we budget in West Virginia is fundamentally different now, so there's plenty
30:18
more opportunity to look at those things. I think that there's we have enough
30:22
unappropriated funds by the way that we did this that we can go in and
30:26
have a much more accurate spend relative to win. The spend is needed for
30:30
those services that we deem appropriate to appropriate money to. And so in the
30:34
past you had to forecast that out eighteen months. We don't have to do
30:37
that anymore before we let you go. Last night, the governor opted to
30:40
veto the controversial immunization bill. Your thoughts on that, you know, I'm
30:45
disappointed, so I voted for that bill. It really didn't change brick and
30:49
mortar imanization at all. And I know that a lot of healthcare and I'm
30:53
a physical therapist, So a lot of my compadres they lost their mind and
30:56
they saw I was voting yes for this bill. But when it comes right
31:00
down to it, we've got a lot of people leaving our public school system
31:03
to go into all the other educational choices we gave when this is one of
31:07
the reasons, and this is because I mean vaccine, vaccine injury is a
31:11
real thing. We have forty four other states that that aren't as strict as
31:15
West Virginia. We have thirty six million people that go through West Virginia a
31:18
year that come from those other states, and we have one point eight million
31:22
people here. Herd immunity gets to be a little bit of a myth when
31:25
that's happened, and we all go out to those other states as well.
31:27
So when you go in this what this vaccine bill did just said that if
31:32
you're not in a brick and mortar public school, you're not you're not going
31:36
to be withheld from education from charter schools if you're a virtual charter school.
31:40
So you're sitting at home in your house on a computer right now, the
31:44
law says you have to be vaccinated in ornarticipate in that virtual charter school.
31:47
There's I mean, why would we withhold education from a child for that?
31:49
So that's one thing, because so now with theyre going to do, they
31:52
can't do a virtual charter school. So where they're gonna go, where they're
31:55
going to go to home health or they're going to go we're gonna have or
31:56
not home hell excuse me, physical therapy and homeschooling right yeah, you know,
32:01
but it is probably where they end up going because even in the private
32:04
schools, the private schools have to require the ammunisation right now. So this
32:07
would have given the private school the option. Most likely many of them would
32:09
not have done it because they would have so many people who leave the private
32:13
school. They probably couldn't operate at that point, you know, because they
32:15
operate on dues paid or tuition paid. So I think the bill wasn't terribly
32:21
aggressive. It gave children some options that they don't have now, gave parents
32:24
some options they don't have now. So I would have liked to seeing them
32:27
a little more of that choice for those parents. So I'm disappointing the Vedo.
32:30
All right, Senator Charlie, gotta leave it there. I always appreciate
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35:30
welcome to the show. Good morning, Dave. How you doing. I
35:35
am doing fine, sir. Thank you for being here. Before we get
35:37
into anything else, we learned last night of the passing of Joe Lieberman.
35:42
You issued a statement about it last night. Talk about Joe Lieberman. Oh
35:45
my goodness, Dave. I just was I just got off the film with
35:47
his beautiful wife Adosa and their family, and I've known him for a long
35:51
long time. But it was a shock. It was an unexpected shock,
35:54
and it was to all of us, and we just we were on a
35:58
zoom that earlier this morning. All the people that work with Joe and all
36:02
some of our senators were on just just basically discussing a wonderful life and the
36:07
legacy that he left in the members. He'd love to sell Joe, he
36:09
was a true bipartisan person. Joe was always looking. He never said no.
36:15
You asked Joe do something, he said, let me think about that.
36:16
Maybe we make something work. And that was the pure spirit of democracy
36:22
and the policies that we're supposed to be looking at that are serious and need
36:24
serious attention. But if you always say no, and just someone says can
36:30
you work with me on this? And I said no, I'm not for
36:31
that, how do you know you haven't even talked to me yet. Joe
36:36
was the person that showed me exactly how it worked and should work in Washington,
36:39
and him and John McCain, you know, working across being big buddies.
36:44
The d's in the R no matter what's your identification, and people now
36:47
are trying to make decisions based on what's your title. Your title should be
36:52
an American And I want to fix things. If you're a Democrat, you
36:54
might have a different idea in a way of fixing it if you're a Republican,
36:58
But together I guarante you can fix it. So I never had a
37:01
person that was more of a bipartisan, more of a moderate than Genjeorde Lieberman.
37:07
He is in my lifetime. He is the one person the guiding light
37:10
of modern modernization, how you get things done, how to cunch your works
37:15
together and comes together. And we're going to miss him. Indeed, I
37:19
want to get to some serious stuff here in a couple of moments. But
37:22
I have to say this, I have never been more proud of Joe Manchin.
37:25
And I said this on the air, even though we may differ on
37:29
some things from time to time, that I was when those rude idiots disrupted
37:32
your meeting with that in your face, anti cold garbage and you jumped up
37:37
before an aid got involved, and at the risk was sounded like a total
37:40
fanboy senator. That was pretty bad ass. I'm not gonna lie Well,
37:45
let me tell you one thing. It went through me like a nice You
37:49
know, I understand my role as a public servant. I understand people who
37:52
protest. I really appreciate the protesters because I can usually talk to a protester
37:58
who's really just out there screaming and raising one and I said, let me
38:00
ask you something. If I can just finish my meeting. He'll will you
38:04
sit down with me and we can discuss our differences and maybe we don't disagree
38:07
as much as you might think. Nine out of ten I will say,
38:09
sure, we love that. We just want to meet with you. I
38:12
said, you've got no problem, you have a meeting. This is not
38:14
This is called the climate defiance. Their only goal in life is to just
38:19
absolutely be totally disruptive and uncouth. And they're basically climate terrorists, is what
38:24
they are. They don't want to find an answer, they don't they don't
38:29
care about. Then we come to an agreement and are talking about what the
38:32
what the backs are and that guy I'm setting here and I said, oh
38:37
here they go okay, And I've heard them before and they've been following me
38:40
around and they know I was going to speak in different parts of the country.
38:43
But Dave, when he said the vulgar I'm setting there. My daughter
38:46
was setting with me. And when he said the vulgarity he did it went.
38:50
I just lost it. I went, I was going to write for
38:52
the neck. Yeah, I was going to pan against the wall and to
38:54
beat to living crap out of it. But then my guy stepped in in
38:58
front of me, and he says, you can't do it, can't do
39:00
it. And I said, hey John, he said you can't do it.
39:02
As soon as he said he can't do it, John turns around and
39:05
grabs him by the pants and throws his head first at the door. I
39:07
says, hey John, how come you could do it? He said,
39:10
that's my job. I can do that. You can't. I said,
39:13
well, I wanted to. I could give me some pleasure here at the
39:15
end of the day. Suit in time, I was standing, you're still
39:17
a West Virginian. So he hit the wrong button. Well, there's no
39:23
way, I mean, and you I think you. You said it.
39:25
Well, Senator climate terrorist, that's pretty much what they are. I'm going
39:28
to talk about some recent stuff recently passed appropriations Mini bus package, as it
39:34
was called. What can you tell us about that? Oh my god.
39:36
The bills included Defense, Financial Services, Homeland Security, Labor, Health and
39:39
Human Services, and State Foreign Operations and programs. Is somebelievable We save the
39:45
gas does with strengthsed border security, We're going to perform ninety six million to
39:51
hire twenty two thousand border patrol agents, one hundred and twenty five million order
39:54
patrol overtime pay seventy five hundred more detention dudgeon seven hundred and twenty million for
39:59
ice deportation. We have got to secure the border. I'm urging and pleading
40:04
with the President of the United States call a national emergency. We've given you
40:07
money now to make sure people cannot get into our country. This catching release
40:13
has to stop, This parole to border has to stop. We've got around
40:15
up the people that were let in before we could adjudicate them to find out
40:19
if faith had a reason or a purpose of being here and get them out
40:22
of here. That's just that you've got to secure the border. So this
40:25
was the first movement at blocking drugs at the border. We include language that
40:30
authored report granting Homeland Security Investigation authority. We didn't have that before. So
40:36
there's an awful lot of whins here, but fighting, you know, supporting
40:39
our military. We had five hundred million Department events was directed directly into West
40:44
Virginia. It doubles what we received last year. We are promoting all of
40:49
the American energy. I said, for the first time, David, in
40:52
my lifetime over forty years now, this is the first time that we have
40:58
been totally energy secured as a nation. We have produced more oil and gas,
41:02
our coal productions up five percent, and we've invested in clean energy and
41:07
produced it more there than ever before. The President cannot acknowledge in saying we're
41:12
doing more oil, more gas, more fossil, cleaner than better than anywhere
41:16
in the world. He can't even say that. And I keep telling him,
41:20
you want to know why people aren't believing what you're saying because you won't
41:22
say it. We did it, you had to sign it. We wrote
41:25
the bill. I know what was in it. And we've got more investments
41:28
coming to West Virginia than ever in the history of our country, ever in
41:31
my time in West Virginia. So we should embrace everything. In West Virginia.
41:37
We are okay with the transition. We know you're going to need coal,
41:39
and we can do it and produce it cleaner, We can use it
41:43
for added value. We have a lot of things we can't and there's a
41:45
demand for our coal around the world like never before. And we're producing the
41:50
gas and we're building the pipeline. The MVP pipeline is going to deliver gas
41:53
to the southeast and down in North Carolina on our military basis, and the
41:58
people don't have their start down there and paying exorbitant prices. So there's a
42:02
lot of good things that we've done there in rural West Virginia, you know,
42:06
and permitting the rural definition, let me just explain to you twenty percent
42:10
of American population sixty six million of US state but lives in what we call
42:15
rural America. But when the funding came down, and I noticed this during
42:20
the COVID, when they start sending money out to help hospitals and help education,
42:23
rural America, places like West Virginia is getting eight or nine percent because
42:29
we don't have a mass concentration of population, so they just been dip out
42:34
a little bit of the time thinking it was in good return. And I
42:37
said, this is unfair. I said, you know, we're twenty percent.
42:38
We should hit twenty percent of every dollar going out should be designated that
42:43
must be used in rural America. And that's where Appalachia is. So we
42:45
got that done. Improving minor health and safety. We have four and twenty
42:50
five million for black learning disability, another twenty twenty nine million for special benefits
42:55
for disabled coal miners, and twelve twelve million for black line clinics, and
43:00
three hundred and eighty seven million for minors safety and health. So, buddy,
43:05
we you know there's a lot in there for us that we keep fighting
43:09
for. Well, let's just tell you in Charleston and Charleston you want to
43:14
know, fifteen million to established State of the Arts and Neuroscience Institute at CMC,
43:17
fifteen million for that two point two million renovate facilities in the Rushing Department
43:22
of Arts and Culture History in Charleston. One point five to expand School of
43:25
Nursing at Bridge Valley, five hundred ninety five thousand develot to Western National Guard
43:30
Small Business Center in Charleston. So we're doing all we can, buddy,
43:35
and we've been working with Shelley, and we work well together. We're the
43:37
only two senators out of one hundred centators. We are the only two of
43:40
that both set on appropriations. Well, Senator, I know you got a
43:45
tye schedule. Before we let you go, I do have one other thing
43:47
to bring out to you. Sure, sure it's going to be Trump v.
43:51
Biden two point zero. That's the way it's looking. Any thoughts from
43:54
you on that one, Well, I think you know I've served with both
44:00
of them, and I know both men, and I've been as honest as
44:02
I can. I'm concerned about the democracy we have and I'm concerned about the
44:06
liberalism that basically Joe Biden has been pulled over to the left. I'm concerned
44:10
about both, and I've said that I know for the rule of law and
44:15
the things that we love dearly in how this country we've had a lot of
44:17
challenges, but we've never challenged the rule of law in the early transfer of
44:22
power. We've never tried. And Donald Trump will challenge that, and I'm
44:25
very scared of that. So I have I've said I cannot support a vote
44:30
for Donald Trump. I'm having a hard time supporting Joe Biden right now.
44:34
And he is not that Joe Biden. I have known. He's not the
44:36
centrist Joe Biden you could work with. So I can't even tell you right
44:39
now. But unless I can pull them back, and I'm like a lot
44:43
of Americans right now, kind of got between and betwixt that I feel homeless
44:46
and helpless. Is there z still zero chance you get into it, sir?
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Yeah, I just you know, I've looked at it every way I
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can. I'm so flattered. I can't tell I mean the flattery, and
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just as it's an ally to people even to think that they would think that
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hid you to be in that position. But I just believe it's going to
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take a movement to the center. It doesn't matter whether you're D or R.
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We're going to have to find people that really put they should be at
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the big A. What you should have is the big A. I'm an
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American, Okay, you have a D identification. You're an independent I or
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an R or whatever, libertarian. Anything you want to be is fine,
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as long as your purpose is to fix the challenges we have before us.
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And we have challenges. The enemy is not the Republican if you're a Democrat,
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and the enemy is not the Democrat if you're Republican. I'll tell you
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where the enemies are in the world, and they're coming after as hard.
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And we better get our act together. If not you divided, you will
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fall united. They cannot defeat us. So we've got to bring the country
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together. So I will say this, if Donald Trump becomes the president,
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I will do everything I can to help him, support him be the best
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president he can ever be. I think that's my role as an American if
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Joe Biden becomes it. But you've got to be able to speak truth to
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power, David, and people are scared to do that. And I'll tell
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you I've been in the White House. I've been setting in that Oval office,
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I've been upstairs, and they try to put the pressure on you to
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do something that I knew the West Virginia would not support. I knew this
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is not how we were raised. And I couldn't do it. And when
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the President sits there by yourself, and here you come from West Virginia,
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and you think, oh my goodness, I'm in the most powerful office in
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the world, the most powerful person, with the most powerful economy, the
46:30
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do this to help the country. And I know it's not right. And
46:37
you have to look and saying, well, you deep, you have to
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dig deep down the inside. And I said, both of them have done
46:44
this to me. Trump and by they gradual right own said Joe, country
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needs you. And in my own way, I'd say, and very respectful,
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I'd hold there on. I said, mister President, the country needs
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you too, it needs us. All we're all in this together and we
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can work this out. And that's just the way it is, all right,
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Senator Joe Manch we got to leave it there. I know you got
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to go. I appreciate you being here as always, sir. We'll talk
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again soon. Thanks a lot anytime, Dave, enjoy being with you.
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You keep doing the great work you're doing, all right, Thank you.
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through from the home office in Shrewsbury. All right, So it's opening day
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for the Reds, mister Cooper, Yeah, man. Unfortunately, the Reds
50:36
have moved around their opening day schedules of late, and so they start later
50:38
in the day now and I can't put it on CHS for opening Day like
50:42
did forree years and this is a thirty year in a row now that they
50:44
start too late in the day. So the game today is going to be
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over In our sister station, of course, the newly tweaked and reformatted and
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brightened up hopefully, Charlesto's Sports Radio one of six seven, fourteen ninety.
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You can catch the Reds on there. The pregame will start today at about
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three forty is when the pregame will start. First pitch is at four to
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ten the Reds. Of course, we had on hotline earlier this week.
51:04
We had the guys from Select Cards and Collectibles, and when talking about collectibles,
51:07
they said the Reds are super hot right now. A lot of their
51:09
players are hot, and it's outside of the Reds core. So they're saying
51:14
that baseball fans in general are asking about the Reds. The Reds are a
51:15
hot commodity right now. Suffering through some injury problems to start the season.
51:20
Matt McLean is likely out for the season or the vast majority of it.
51:23
Novelli Marte probably their top prospect, depending on who you talk to, Between
51:28
him and Ellie de la Cruz, Marte is drug suspended for eighty games.
51:31
If the Reds make the postseason, he's out for the postseason as well.
51:35
That's a big hole in the middle of their lineup or in the middle of
51:37
their infield that they had to fill. So they've done some backfilling with some
51:40
free agent signings and things like that. But they still have a lot of
51:43
depth, a lot of pitching, a lot of young talent including Ella de
51:45
la Cruz in Carnicio and Strand is still going to be up there of course,
51:50
and Steer who had such a great season last year. So this is
51:52
an exciting team. Really looking forward to see what the Reds do. I
51:55
think it's going to be an exciting season. As I said, at this
51:58
point, we are undefeated and we're still alive for the playoffs. That's right,
52:01
So I'm excited. It's going to be weird though not hearing them say
52:06
up to bat Vodo, I know, so weird. I know, man,
52:08
I so wish since he is visiting Toronto, but Toronto is not coming
52:13
to Cincinnati. I really wanted Toronto to visit Cincinnati so we I'd have a
52:16
chance to go see Vodo, even on another team again. But I mean,
52:20
he was my favorite player of this team for the longest time. I
52:22
like him. He's turned into like a social media just just a clown,
52:25
just the funniest guy. I mean, he's a great follow on social media,
52:29
thoughtful too, I mean, just a good guy to follow. I'm
52:30
going to miss Vodo, but things change, and I like this new these
52:35
new Reds. I think that you got some leadership potential and like the Spencer
52:37
Steer and and we'll see what happens with Da La Cruz. He could be
52:40
the Acuna of the Reds if he's able to catch fire. We'll see,
52:45
all right, and coverage begins what time in Charleston's ESPN radio. It's going
52:47
to be at three forty this afternoon and then they have a day off and
52:51
then the next game will be on CHS on Saturday. Nothing like Opening Day
52:54
in Cincinnati. Will definitely be listening Coop as I as always, I appreciate
52:58
you being here, man, Thanks a lot. Yeah, fix all right,
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Dale Cooper again, the Reds. This is our year. This is
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our year, all right, It is always our year. All right.
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We gotta gotta go. Thank you so much for having my guests on the
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show today. Coming up on the show tomorrow, h Hannah Gardner with our
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adopted Please Petal of the Week from the Charleston tart Re Main Association, Doctor
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Casey Sacksonbridge Valley and more coming up tomorrow. See you tomorrow. Till then,
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