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Jim Owczarski Talks Giannis · The Huddle

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  Speaker 1: Guest and the Nicolay Loadock. I'm talking text on. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about it. We spent most of the show talking
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  Speaker 1: about his yesterday trade deadline in the NBA is today
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  Speaker 1: We've got our Bucks expert our go to guy from
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  Speaker 1: the Journal Sentinel, Jim Osarski, joined us. Jim, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: getting up early after a back to back.
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  Speaker 2: We appreciate him.
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  Speaker 3: I had no problem, guys, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, the story with Giannis the national churn, this
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  Speaker 1: has been quite the ride, and throughout it you've been
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  Speaker 1: pretty steadfast in that, you know, not out of the.
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  Speaker 2: Realm that Giannis could stay in Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like, by all indications, by what happened with
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  Speaker 1: Golden State, it looks like he's gonna be with with
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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee at least through the end of this season. What
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  Speaker 1: are your thoughts on what lies ahead in the next
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  Speaker 1: several hours.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I mean, look, the key difference for
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  Speaker 3: I guess Bucks fans is you know, the team actually
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  Speaker 3: began actively listening to calls for him, so that that
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  Speaker 3: was different. I mean, I think that was the first
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  Speaker 3: time John Horst the GM has really done that. So
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  Speaker 3: once you start actively listening, right, action can happen, and
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  Speaker 3: so it did make this I guess flurry in the
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  Speaker 3: last week or two a little different than all the
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  Speaker 3: years past, right, guys, But look, it's really hard to move,
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  Speaker 3: you know, let's just break it down. It's really hard
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  Speaker 3: to move a sixty three million dollar player in a
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  Speaker 3: couple of days, right, and especially now you're you're talking
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  Speaker 3: about an MVP, one of the one of the best
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  Speaker 3: of all time, who's still at the top of his game.
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  Speaker 3: It's just really, really difficult. So I think they did
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  Speaker 3: due diligence. I'm not surprised that we're here in nationally,
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  Speaker 3: there isn't enough out there to make this happen. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I do think, you know, Yiannis and specifically you know,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to get through this deadline and kind of
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  Speaker 3: hit reset on all of this kind of craziness in
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  Speaker 3: April May. But I do think John Horst is working
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  Speaker 3: along the edges. We'll find out if they can kind
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  Speaker 3: of switch up the chemistry, switch up some of these
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  Speaker 3: these other guys, you know, maybe find a better fit.
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  Speaker 3: You know, clearly it hasn't really worked there. What's five
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  Speaker 3: and fifteen without Giannis not good enough, you know, so
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  Speaker 3: maybe there's some ancillary moves, some smaller moves they can
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  Speaker 3: do here in the next couple hours.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about that in a second.
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  Speaker 4: But Jim, great to hearing me, great reporting, and thank
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  Speaker 4: you for the free content yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Media starts with me.
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  Speaker 4: Me and you were great for we so we appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: But with this one, you mentioned it, and I do
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  Speaker 4: believe that that it's it's really pertinent to think of
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  Speaker 4: this is the first time the Bucks have listened, that
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  Speaker 4: they've been active in listening.
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  Speaker 2: Do you believe that was just.
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  Speaker 4: A John Horst looking at where they're at basketball wise?
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  Speaker 3: Er?
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  Speaker 4: Does that feel like maybe more of a because this
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  Speaker 4: is the most important person in the organization, Was that
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  Speaker 4: maybe more of a conversation of ownership saying, Hey, we
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  Speaker 4: know that this might need a reset. We want to
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  Speaker 4: know all of the value that's out there before we
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  Speaker 4: make this full decision into the offseason what we do
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  Speaker 4: for the next you know, it's trading him at this point,
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  Speaker 4: but it's a two to five to seven year plan
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  Speaker 4: that you're starting to execute.
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  Speaker 2: If you move off of Jannis Dagombo.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that that has to be an ownership call.
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  Speaker 3: Bill and Janna Stevens said that talking to me the
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  Speaker 3: other night, where he said, look, I know what my
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  Speaker 3: goals are is where are theirs? And he feels like
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  Speaker 3: I've talked to him. I'm not going to share those conversations,
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  Speaker 3: but clearly in this moment, you know, he wasn't sure
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  Speaker 3: what their next steps would be. And so, yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: think I don't think John Horracet for as much basketball. Look,
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  Speaker 3: he's built a lot of winning here. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: that's the type of move a GM can unilaterally make,
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  Speaker 3: you know, especially you look down at what happened in Dallas,
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  Speaker 3: you know, with Luka Doncic, ownership signed off, but ownership
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  Speaker 3: didn't know what they were doing right, Whereas the west Edens.
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  Speaker 3: West Edens is very very clear on what Giannis means
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  Speaker 3: to the Bucks, to his business in Milwaukee. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so Bill, I do think it had to start there,
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  Speaker 3: and then you just do the due diligence and see
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  Speaker 3: is is the good business, the honest business still or
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  Speaker 3: or do we need to learn about some of this
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  Speaker 3: other stuff? And you know, John Horsset had to take
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  Speaker 3: those calls.
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  Speaker 1: Talking to Jim Ozarski Journal Sentinel. Here Drew Billy Arman. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So when you talk to you honest. One of the
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  Speaker 1: things we talked about earlier is when you talk to Honest,
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  Speaker 1: you don't you don't get the feeling you're being spun
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  Speaker 1: like when you talk to agents or college coaches, like
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you need to you feel like you need to
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  Speaker 1: shower after those conversations because you're they're trying to spin
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  Speaker 1: you and getting you to to, you know, slant things
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  Speaker 1: their way, and they're not giving you the whole story.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever felt that way with the Honest? You've
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  Speaker 1: covered him, You and Eric have covered him for this
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  Speaker 1: whole run here. You're as close to him as anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever felt that way that he has motives?
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  Speaker 1: You were also around the Packers, and remember Brett Farv
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  Speaker 1: was a guy that played the Bumpkin character, and but
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  Speaker 1: he was there was more to it under the surface.
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  Speaker 1: Where are you with that? To me, it seems the
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  Speaker 1: Honest seems like what you see what you get.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've always said, you know, English maybe
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  Speaker 3: his third or fourth language, but he understands and speaks
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  Speaker 3: it far better than I and many and many people
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  Speaker 3: I know. So yeah, I think he's he's quick. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to say he's calculated, but he knows what
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  Speaker 3: he's saying. You know. I don't think he is truly
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  Speaker 3: truly off the cup at times, but I know in
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  Speaker 3: most moments, you know, especially in the one the interview specifically,
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  Speaker 3: I just happened to catch him in the right time.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't expecting to talk to me. I think it
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  Speaker 3: just happened, and all of that was very emotional in
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  Speaker 3: the moment. And yeah, to your to your bigger point,
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  Speaker 3: that's what a lot of what he does, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of where the jokes come from, and that's
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  Speaker 3: sort of his The thing he leans on, right is
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  Speaker 3: is I need to make a joke, I need to
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  Speaker 3: be funny. Let me break this with a little levity,
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  Speaker 3: even if it doesn't land all the way right. So, No,
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  Speaker 3: I do believe Drew that he comes across as genuine.
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  Speaker 3: Sure there's some calculations, like of a better word in there.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes he does want to convey a message at times,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, for the most part, he's what you see
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  Speaker 3: is what you get.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, he could have blown you off, but it
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  Speaker 1: seems to me like with all the churn, and I
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  Speaker 1: guess he hears about it from Mariah apparently, but with
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  Speaker 1: all the churn, he felt like he wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: this out in the universe and worst done. Jim, that
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  Speaker 1: where's Sham's and Wendy talking about reacting like those guys.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's like a tumbleweed. It's like a tree
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  Speaker 1: falling in the forest. Like what they didn't pick up
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  Speaker 1: on that That lack of.
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  Speaker 4: Attention to it nationally, Jim, been a little surprising to you,
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  Speaker 4: like how the story's been covered that way.
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  Speaker 3: No, well, two things. I do think he's aware of
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  Speaker 3: that stuff, even if he says, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 3: I'm off social media, I don't pay I mean, clearly
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  Speaker 3: he knows where his name is in the discourse. Is
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  Speaker 3: that why he wanted to talk to me.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think he was willing to just
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  Speaker 3: talk and hear the questions. Now you're that second question. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised because it didn't really fit the agenda.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, some of it was picked up in depending
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  Speaker 3: what outlet was running an excerpt or or something about it.
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  Speaker 3: It was the It was the other parts, like hey,
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  Speaker 3: I want to win, I don't want to be on
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  Speaker 3: this sort of bad team for a while, right, and
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  Speaker 3: so yeah, it's it's just yeah, I'm not surprised, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: and but I do think you're right he wanted in
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  Speaker 3: that moment the way it started going, guys was to
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  Speaker 3: it felt like he was trying to define what Milwaukee
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  Speaker 3: meant to him in a way that I think you
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  Speaker 3: guys talked about this too. I'm sure where it's that
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  Speaker 3: one footage one foot out because he really want to
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  Speaker 3: be here, does not want to be here. I think
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  Speaker 3: he really wanted to clarify that when he talked to
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  Speaker 3: me the other night.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and that's been Jim. I've said it kind of
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  Speaker 4: openly over the last couple of months where it's felt
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  Speaker 4: like wanted to say something, wanted something, but didn't want
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  Speaker 4: to say it. Wants Alba didn't want to say it,
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  Speaker 4: and it did feel like that was the biggest validation
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  Speaker 4: of the furthest thing that I want is I want
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  Speaker 4: to now live in New York City, Like, don't make
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  Speaker 4: this say I now want to live in Los Angeles
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  Speaker 4: because I'm sick and tired of the people.
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  Speaker 2: The basketball situation is it.
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  Speaker 4: And you mentioned it earlier on of you know, there
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  Speaker 4: might be some stuff around the edges that they could do.
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  Speaker 4: What's the sense that you get of maybe some aggressiveness
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  Speaker 4: that they could find here at the deadline in the
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  Speaker 4: next tw know, seven hours or so before it's two o'clock,
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  Speaker 4: but kind of recalibrating where they're at in the off season,
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  Speaker 4: where you know, for the first time in a number
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  Speaker 4: of years, they do feel like they actually have some
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  Speaker 4: ammunition to help the roster with some young players that
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  Speaker 4: have kind of butted in some opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so look, John Horace is as moved in silence, right,
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  Speaker 3: That's why some of this other stuff is probably speaking guys,
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  Speaker 3: the smoke, the chatter. How suddenly everyone knew everything. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying teams don't talk, clearly they do. But
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  Speaker 3: when has the John Horse ever operated them right? Right,
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  Speaker 3: Like like Drew Holliday, Damian Lillard, No one knew those
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  Speaker 3: were happening until they happened. So I can't speak on
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  Speaker 3: specific players right now, but look, again, this hasn't gone
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  Speaker 3: very well. Maybe there are some better fits. Maybe there's
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  Speaker 3: you know, a different a true point guard that they
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  Speaker 3: could finally use after all these years. Maybe there is
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  Speaker 3: that sort of distressed asset in a in a six
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  Speaker 3: to eight guy that they could use that maybe all
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  Speaker 3: right texts purposes their team wants to dump them, right,
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  Speaker 3: So I think that sort of pre agency is maybe
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  Speaker 3: where they're looking now. Bill, you referenced. Look, I think
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  Speaker 3: one of the desperations moments for these teams trying to
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  Speaker 3: pry him away now is because if you give John
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  Speaker 3: Horst draft picks and money things he hasn't had since
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty, what kind of rabbits can he pull out
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  Speaker 3: has had the summer? And that's what Yanna said in
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  Speaker 3: the piece.
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  Speaker 4: I asked him straight up.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, are you willing to continue to listen?
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  Speaker 3: And he's like, of course, I always listen to what
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  Speaker 3: they say. I always listen to the plan they have.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, why do you think I'm still here? Right?
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  Speaker 3: And he has every time they've shown their in, He's
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  Speaker 3: been in and that's all he ever asks. And if
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  Speaker 3: he's still here into the summer, and again his ownership decides, hey,
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  Speaker 3: let's do this thing. You know, I think he'll be
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  Speaker 3: extending in October.
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  Speaker 2: What as we go back?
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  Speaker 1: If Giannis does leave is the turning point when Dame's
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  Speaker 1: Achilles popped.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so because I think they would have
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  Speaker 3: traded them this summer. Yeah, I think that relationship. I
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  Speaker 3: think him and Day like each other personally, But I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if that fit works now. When you say
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  Speaker 3: turning point, I think yes, in the sense that they
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  Speaker 3: had to wave and stretch him and sign Miles Turner. Look,
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  Speaker 3: Miles was on a Dame replacement. Miles was a Brook replacement.
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  Speaker 3: I think if you're trading fifty four million dollars of
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  Speaker 3: an all star Dame Lillard, you're probably getting an all
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  Speaker 3: star back. You're getting picks back, You're getting you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean, You're getting something back. So yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: you're right. It could be an inflection point, true, but
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  Speaker 3: I think it's it's maybe not the inflection point from
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  Speaker 3: over the years that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Does that seem like the Bucks and people say, well,
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  Speaker 1: John Horse, they've only won the one championships. I think
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  Speaker 1: John Horse's main job number one, maybe above winning championship,
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  Speaker 1: is keep you honest, happy, and keep you honest in
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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee and start from there. That's the baseline that's always
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  Speaker 1: been me his job descriptions. And he's accomplished that right now,
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  Speaker 1: and can he continued to do that? That's the question
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  Speaker 1: that hangs over the franchise right now is can he
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  Speaker 1: do that? But in the process of that, they put
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on the credit card, and the
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  Speaker 1: bills are coming to, and they aged out, and they
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  Speaker 1: don't have the young wings, and they didn't have draft picks,
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  Speaker 1: and they tried to get you know, Jay Crowder, who.
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  Speaker 2: Popped off on Twitter, by the way, good.
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  Speaker 1: Journalism expanding on that story as well. But so all
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  Speaker 1: the bills are coming to, it's quite a confluence. Does
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  Speaker 1: John Horst have the hardest job in the NBA?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'd say sometimes these rebuild and long draft
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  Speaker 3: picks are the hard things to do. But yeah, i mean, look,
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  Speaker 3: when you're trying to continue to build rosters and you know,
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  Speaker 3: build around a championship, t Yeah, that's that's really hard
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  Speaker 3: to keep winning and keep a guy like that happy. Look,
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  Speaker 3: there's only one Giannis. You know, Dallas just traded Luca.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't going to go anywhere, at least not for
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  Speaker 3: a long time. Joker doesn't really and Denver doesn't really
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  Speaker 3: put pressure on it like that Lebron used to, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, and it's but yeah, it kind of wore out.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I would say it's if it's not the hardest,
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  Speaker 3: is one of the hardest, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the.
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  Speaker 4: Lebron one is a fascinating one, Jim, because it did,
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  Speaker 4: like we now again, I don't know how much I
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  Speaker 4: believe all of the conversation and any smoke that comes
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  Speaker 4: out of any building, but people in Los Angeles done
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  Speaker 4: with it now, so like it does wane when you
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  Speaker 4: have to continue to keep someone health happy, but when
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  Speaker 4: there is a finish line, and there's also the option
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  Speaker 4: and the extension. In October you mentioned it, like possibility
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  Speaker 4: of them extending him if he's here in Milwaukee and
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  Speaker 4: stays through the summer, the possibility in the likelihood goes up.
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  Speaker 4: There is there again the significant amount more money that
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  Speaker 4: they're able to offer, or does it start to change
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  Speaker 4: later into his career, because Drew and I have joked
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  Speaker 4: about it that like once once the clears at two o'clock,
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  Speaker 4: we get about forty eight hours a reprieve before a
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  Speaker 4: certain four letter starts. So even if he signs, I
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  Speaker 4: know that it's a year a year until he can
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  Speaker 4: be traded again, and that conversation will stir up. But
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  Speaker 4: is again the bird rights a rather helpful deal for
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  Speaker 4: the Bucks and their ability to pay more than anybody
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  Speaker 4: else for him.
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  Speaker 3: So it used to be that way. He's now thirteen
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  Speaker 3: years in and once you're that far in, it's the
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  Speaker 3: money does kind of even out. Yeah, where the Bucks
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  Speaker 3: get an advantage is it's an extra year. So I
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  Speaker 3: think in free agency he could sign for four years,
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  Speaker 3: the Bucks he can signed for five, got it? And
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't matter when you're looking at age thirty six
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  Speaker 3: at seventy plus million dollars. Now you mentioned the forty
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  Speaker 3: eight hours. So where the Bucks have a disadvantage with
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  Speaker 3: this is he is not eligible and flocked hope and okay,
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  Speaker 3: right now that what does that mean? Well, every other
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  Speaker 3: free agent, every other extension is July, so he cannot sign.
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  Speaker 3: And so guess what we're gonna hear guys at the
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  Speaker 3: combine and when when the lottery evolves and then June,
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be well, Yiannis is evaluating the future. Janie
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  Speaker 3: is ready for a new home because yeah, he's going
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  Speaker 3: to apply that pressure and he cannot do anything right,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and look, guys, that's his leverage. We're gonna
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  Speaker 3: hear sources say Giannis isn't sure if he's going to extend.
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  Speaker 3: Janie isn't sure what he's gonna do. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: think we hear that no matter what, And we heard
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  Speaker 3: that with Dame. Remember guys that that first October media
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  Speaker 3: day he said I'm not signing, and then two and
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  Speaker 3: a half weeks later.
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  Speaker 2: He signed him.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean. So it's just but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're right, we get a little reprieve and then it
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  Speaker 3: will all start up again in the near future.
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  Speaker 5: Is there a non zero chance of the Bucks you
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  Speaker 5: mention the horse moving in silence, would actually acquire everyone's
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  Speaker 5: talking about what we would you know, if we're gonna
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  Speaker 5: trade you honest, is there a chance, a non zero chance,
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  Speaker 5: I'll say that the Bucks would actually acquire a big
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  Speaker 5: piece here.
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  Speaker 2: I mean there were rumors they were big game hunting.
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  Speaker 3: Quote right, I think they were when he was healthy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'd have to say the pick in thirty one
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  Speaker 3: or thirty two's off the table. And while they do
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  Speaker 3: have some money, they can absorb some cash. You know.
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  Speaker 3: Let's say if you trade Kyle Kuzma and you use
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  Speaker 3: your catch, you got like thirty four million dollars. That's
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  Speaker 3: a very good player. But if it's just it would
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  Speaker 3: happen to just be a salary dump. And so that's
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  Speaker 3: where I think maybe there's some Manteley moves, like a
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  Speaker 3: huge deal that one that that seems a little difficult
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: to imagine just because of where they're at.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, on the way out here, Jimmy, where does Doc
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Rivers fit into the equation? What's his status? If Jannis
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: wants him as the coach? Did they just let him
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: ride out the contract that he has he does? Where
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, should we start calling him Doc Pisaccia?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: What? How does that you had a factor in this?
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: And if they were to make a move, you know,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: then not knowing what ganness or do you wait to
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: see if you trade Giannis and then make a move
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: on Doc and get somebody who can do a rebuild.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: What's your take on that? That's your sense?
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: It's a great question. Look, Doc was hired two years
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: ago to take you know, Drew Damon Giannis to a championship,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: and he's been barely above five hundred since. And yeah,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: there's there's reasons or excuses for that, but it just
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: hasn't gone the way this is supposed to have gone.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: When you're left on his deal. It's I mean, guys,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: we all know this. It's usually that's the time, right
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: When When when do you move on? When do you
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: have an extension? I think it's fair the fact that
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: in the past years Jason Kidd and you know, Adrian
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Griffen were let go when they felt the coach was
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: in the way of performance. Clearly, to this point, ownership
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: is not making that call, hasn't made that call, And
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I do think it's fair to reevaluate that, like, this
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: is not the veteran Leyden star Layden team that he
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: was hired to get to the next level. They didn't
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: get to the next level. The job wasn't done. So
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: a man, I can't sit here and say he's the
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: guy for the this year's Bucks or even the next
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: version of the Bucks, because you know, the job he
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: was hired to do wasn't done and it's a totally
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: turned over roster. And I think it would be fair
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: to say, Okay, let's evaluate all of this and what's
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: next for us, and is this guy still you know,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: the best, the best guy to do it?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Does Doc get credit?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: He's getting taken a lot of uh catch at strays
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: on these streets. But does he get any credit for
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Ryan Rollins's emergence?
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Zero? Of course, Yeah, of course there's always credit, you know.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think in the broader sense has not
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: gone well. But yeah, he did play that kid when
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: when he was a two way contract that year, right,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: and we've seen him really developed, so that that is
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: true for sure.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's exciting. People are still ready to get him out.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: That's gonna be fun. But you know what, listen, I
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: imagine too after jim laid it out there after one
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: year left on the contract, they're like, wait, that sounds
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: a lot better than paying three coaches at one time.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe we do, but that's you know, that's money out
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: of the couch cushion, doesn't count against the cap.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: They just fired. They just fired a coach in Ohio.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: They got they fire this coach? Want to be paid
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: twelve coaches.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: And has one sent Toshaun Watson on the first and fifteenth.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Can I ask what's the roa on that? He was saying, Jimmy,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: keep doing the good work man.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Just at man at fifteen today, I hope you go
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: get a stiff drink and relax a little.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Bit appreciate it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Thanks Funny, appreciate it.
• 19:54
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