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Speaker 3: Here's Nick Eatman. Good morning, Welcome to Cowboys Storyline presented
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Speaker 3: by Gillette. I'm Nick Eatman, which Wednesday, December of the tenth,
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Speaker 3: Cowboys take on the Minnesota Vikings Sunday Night on NBC
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Speaker 3: Sunday Night Football at at and T Stadium. You know,
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Speaker 3: you always wonder when they when the league puts out
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Speaker 3: these games like that, and uh, you know, is this
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Speaker 3: gonna be one of those those big, big time matchups
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Speaker 3: and you know there might be some over there at
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Speaker 3: NBC that's like, oh, I wish this game was a
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Speaker 3: little bit more meaningful. But first of all, it is
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys, and we know what the Cowboys can draw big,
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Speaker 3: big numbers. But in this kind of what what December
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Speaker 3: football is all about, you know, survive in advanced type thing,
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Speaker 3: hang on for dear life. You can't get more of
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Speaker 3: a desperation type game. This is the Desperation Bowl between
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Speaker 3: the the Vikings and the Cowboys. I looked at the
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Speaker 3: standings and bottom two teams in the NFC that are
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Speaker 3: still they don't have that asterisk, you know, they haven't
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Speaker 3: been eliminated yet, Vikings and Cowboys. So they're they're they're
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Speaker 3: hanging on the winner of this game. If there is
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Speaker 3: a winner. I guess we have to always qualify that.
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Speaker 3: But the winner of this game will will, you know,
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Speaker 3: at least be in decent shape again for the next week.
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Speaker 3: The losers, I don't know. I guess you're pretty much
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Speaker 3: out of it. Maybe not mathematically but for all intents
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Speaker 3: and purposes, And they might be already but not yet,
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Speaker 3: so we're gonna still talk about it. Eight ah eight
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Speaker 3: eight five five to two nine seven. Irene from Falls Church,
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Speaker 3: Virginia's first Irene, what's up?
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Speaker 4: Good morning, good, How are you good? Okay to two questions, Well,
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Speaker 4: one is the comment. So my biggest concern obviously for
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Speaker 4: this game coming up, is that I didn't actually realize
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Speaker 4: the Vikings were this good. But they're like top ten
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Speaker 4: in defense. I know their offense has been struggling except
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Speaker 4: for last week, but it reminds me of the Bears game,
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Speaker 4: at least when the Bears were given better on defense
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Speaker 4: and then the Panthers game, so hopefully we can keep
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Speaker 4: it close and pull it out with having a much
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Speaker 4: better offense. But you know, let's see. But then I
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Speaker 4: have a question for not for you, I have a
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Speaker 4: question for the emplier. When Thursday night rolled around and
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Speaker 4: Diggs was not playing, all I could think was Nick
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Speaker 4: mentioned there's a contract thing here, and are they thinking
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Speaker 4: that after three wins, maybe we don't need Trayvon. Let's
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Speaker 4: see if we can do this without him. And so
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Speaker 4: my question for you, I don't know if you know
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Speaker 4: all the details of this contract thing, but is it
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Speaker 4: going to help them? I don't care about their cash.
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Speaker 4: I really don't care about their cash, but is it
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Speaker 4: going to help them with cap savings if they if
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Speaker 4: he doesn't play, because there could be an argument to
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Speaker 4: be made that, Okay, well this season. I know we're
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Speaker 4: still technically in it, but maybe they're they're hedging their
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Speaker 4: DUTs and they say, hey, if we can save a
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Speaker 4: little money and make twenty twenty six better because of it,
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Speaker 4: maybe that's what they think. So if you could comment
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Speaker 4: on that, that'd be great.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, real appreciate the call. You're onto
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Speaker 3: something I think, and I again I don't really know
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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know all the details of it.
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Speaker 3: I've heard about savings on getting money back insurance type
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Speaker 3: situation that really it is when you have a guy
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Speaker 3: that that's been injured and you has he has guaranteed money,
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Speaker 3: then he had you know, clauses in his contract. You
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Speaker 3: can get some money back in this case. I haven't,
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Speaker 3: you know, really dug into that. I've heard that that
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Speaker 3: that's the situation. But this thing is is kind of
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Speaker 3: changed over the you know, the last few months. I mean,
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Speaker 3: we didn't even know that Trayvon was really gonna go
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Speaker 3: to IR, and then he goes to IR and then
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Speaker 3: he's been out for now it's been six games. So
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Speaker 3: it's more to it than swelling in the knee and
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Speaker 3: or even a concussion. I there's there's more to this,
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Speaker 3: and I really wasn't trying to imply some things. I
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Speaker 3: can dance around the subject a little bit, and that's
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Speaker 3: that's what That's what I've I've tried to do because
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Speaker 3: I don't really understand it. I got asked on the radio,
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Speaker 3: is he today this morning? Is there a green light
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Speaker 3: for for Trayvon Diggs this week? And I just said, guys,
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Speaker 3: it'll be a flashing yellow light regarding him forever. That's
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Speaker 3: just the way I'm taking it forever. It's always flashing
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Speaker 3: yellow caution when I when I'm asked about him, because
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Speaker 3: I just don't know. I wish I did, I don't.
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Speaker 3: I'd like to see him out there though, because I
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Speaker 3: think he's really good, and you know, the best should
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Speaker 3: play the best, and if Justin Jefferson, what do I
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Speaker 3: just feel like this is going to be an AJ
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Speaker 3: Brown type situation where you know, what's wrong with AJ
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Speaker 3: Brown and then he goes out and has a huge
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Speaker 3: game against the Cowboys. I just the same with was
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Speaker 3: it Harrison Arizona? You know, hadn't had a good game
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Speaker 3: at all this year? Marvin Harrison Junior goes against the Cowboys.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm expecting Justin Jefferson to kind of get
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Speaker 3: back into, uh, you know, the type of the type
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Speaker 3: of player that that he's he's been. But we'll see.
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Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Michael Bowling Green, Kentucky.
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Speaker 5: All right, I got a couple of quick questions in
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Speaker 5: a score. The questions are that, you know, just like
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Speaker 5: you just talked about Jefferson, he's a big threat. What
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Speaker 5: do you think the Cowboys are going to do to
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Speaker 5: try to slow him down. Maybe Diggs is it there
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Speaker 5: or the you know what do you think what do
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Speaker 5: you think their game plan is going to be to
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Speaker 5: try to slow him down? And the other question is
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Speaker 5: with a ten day rest, do you say I think
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Speaker 5: the running game or get back the Cowboys running game
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Speaker 5: will get back to where it was in the first
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Speaker 5: half of the seed.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's that's gonna be the key to anything.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for the call, Michael. Two good questions. The key
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Speaker 3: to having that kind of success on offense is to
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Speaker 3: be balanced, and to be balanced, you've got to run it.
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Speaker 3: The thing about it is is they they're committed to it.
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Speaker 3: They still run it. But against the Lions, it was
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Speaker 3: there wasn't a lot of success there. You know, two yards,
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Speaker 3: three yards you just didn't see You didn't just pop
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Speaker 3: a big run of fifteen yard twenty yards or anything
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Speaker 3: like that. So that that was that was part of it.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, they're going to be committed to it. So
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Speaker 3: for sure, you know, how can they scheme things up
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Speaker 3: to to be you know a little bit better there?
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Speaker 3: And you know, I know it sound like you guys
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Speaker 3: a little bit when I say this, but you know,
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Speaker 3: I feel like Hunter Lipke can help, you know, I
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Speaker 3: feel like he can help a little bit more in
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Speaker 3: the offense a little bit. I'd like to see him
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Speaker 3: out there more than Schoonmaker really because I just think
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Speaker 3: you've got a little bit more flexibility in what you're
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Speaker 3: trying to do. They passed the ball to Schoonmaker a lot.
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Speaker 3: I feel like every time they get the ball into
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Speaker 3: to Lipkey's hands, he's doing something positive, So I don't know,
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Speaker 3: And maybe as a lead blocker he can kind of
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Speaker 3: provide that as well. So I'd like to see him
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Speaker 3: out there more. And then as far as the defense
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Speaker 3: goes and how to stop Jefferson, I could just say,
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Speaker 3: put on the tape, what are the other teams doing?
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean he's just really you know, he
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Speaker 3: hasn't had like a great Pro Bowl type year, but
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Speaker 3: when he looked at the numbers, I mean he ranks
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Speaker 3: fourteenth and fifteenth, like in catches in yards. I can't
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Speaker 3: remember which ones at which, but it's like sixty four catches,
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Speaker 3: eight hundred and ten yards, it's one of them, fourteenth
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Speaker 3: ones fifteenth, So you know in the NFL, that's where
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Speaker 3: he is in the NFL. So in the NFC, he's
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Speaker 3: probably you know, and that's depending on what those standings,
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Speaker 3: the rankings look like, but he's probably in you know,
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Speaker 3: six to seven eight something like that in each one.
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Speaker 3: So I mean that's kind of on the verge of
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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl really. So so it's not it hasn't been
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Speaker 3: a horrible year, but I guarantee if you have him
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Speaker 3: on your fantasy team, you're probably not loving the production
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Speaker 3: of the lack of production from him. Tyler in the
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Speaker 3: state of Washington, what's up?
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Speaker 6: So it's Skyler. So I just curious about Shoddy his
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Speaker 6: habits in the red zone, Holme Blade. It's kind of
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Speaker 6: reminisces of being with the Sea Hawks in that twenty
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Speaker 6: fifteen sixteen Super Bowl, seems like, and I wonder why
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Speaker 6: he can't break those tendencies of getting away from the
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Speaker 6: run and forcing passes and you know, tighter situations than
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Speaker 6: you know, compared to where how Sorry, but that's just
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Speaker 6: he just seems to have habits to throw the ball
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Speaker 6: a lot and within the ten yard line. So that
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Speaker 6: cost us a couple of games this season.
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Speaker 3: Uh, I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time hearing you.
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Speaker 3: Are you saying his his play calling in the red
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Speaker 3: zone you think has cost some games this year.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, just reministions of like when he was with the
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Speaker 6: Seahawks in fifteen and sixteen when they caught him the
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Speaker 6: Super Bowl off the one yard line, they decided the
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Speaker 6: pass the ball. Yeah, well it just kind of figs
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Speaker 6: something he learned over time with the coaches he's learned from.
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, okay, good good stuff there. I don't think
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Speaker 3: I guess he was he there was he there for
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Speaker 3: that for the for the Marshawan play. I can't remember
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Speaker 3: that being the case for him, but maybe he was.
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Speaker 3: But who doesn't matter here what the cow was not?
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Speaker 3: I think he was right. He was in eighteen, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: that's when he started with the with the Seahawks. He
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Speaker 3: I mean, he was there in eighteen and twenty. Now
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 7: He was with the Indianapolis Colts in sixteen and seventeen.
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Speaker 3: So I had to look at his stuff here. He
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Speaker 3: was with Georgia in fifteen fifteen, Yeah, and I don't
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Speaker 3: know about twelve, thirteen, fourteen. Maybe it's just out of football,
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Speaker 3: but oh no, he was with the Rams. No, he
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Speaker 3: wasn't He wasn't the coordinator for the Marshawn should have
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Speaker 3: handed the ball to Marshawn that that wasn't him. But
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Speaker 3: here with the Cowboys, I can't say I love the
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Speaker 3: play calling in the down in the red zone Eagles
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Speaker 3: game a couple of weeks ago. Didn't cost him in
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Speaker 3: the game, did not cost him the game obviously, But
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Speaker 3: you know, it's first and goal in the eight, which
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Speaker 3: is always tough. Anything first and goal from like eight, nine, ten,
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Speaker 3: even first and ten at the eleven. It's really tight
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Speaker 3: down there. It's hard to score. But on first down
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Speaker 3: you get six yards with Javonte Williams down to the two. Okay,
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Speaker 3: that changes things a little bit. Number one, I think
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Speaker 3: I could run it right down your throat Number two.
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Speaker 3: It's a four. It's four downs now because now I'm
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Speaker 3: at the two. On second down, I can get in
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Speaker 3: and then they threw it three times in a row.
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Speaker 3: Make that makes sense. There's been there's been a lot
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Speaker 3: of that this year where I just feel like Javante
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Speaker 3: is a good runner where he doesn't get stopped behind
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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage that often. He runs hard runs forward,
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Speaker 3: so getting hit at the one yard line is expected.
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Speaker 3: But he can lean himself into the end zone. I
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Speaker 3: don't think they run the ball with him enough down there,
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Speaker 3: and and there's been times where I think they get
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Speaker 3: a little too cute. So I agree with that. But
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Speaker 3: let's don't put a let's don't put a historic play
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Speaker 3: on him when that wasn't. But when you're talking about
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Speaker 3: right now, yeah, I think the red zone play calling
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Speaker 3: has been you know, it's been it's been questionable at
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Speaker 3: times this year. But also you know, red zone penalties
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Speaker 3: fall start things like that have hurt this team some.
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Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Lester in Minnesota morning next.
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Speaker 8: Just I got a couple of points, but I want
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Speaker 8: to make I want to comment on what we've been
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Speaker 8: talking about this morning. First of all, yeah, of course,
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Speaker 8: run that ball more. And let's not be too hard
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Speaker 8: on shot. This is his first rodeo being a head coach.
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Speaker 8: I know he's been around for a long, long long
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Speaker 8: time as an assistant, so let's he needs to learn
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Speaker 8: some things. I mean, we all learn things every day,
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Speaker 8: so this is the first time being a head coach,
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Speaker 8: so give him a break. But the comments I wanted
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Speaker 8: to make was, you know, I'm up here in Minnesota, man,
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Speaker 8: and they freaking out about Jefferson not getting the ball down.
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Speaker 2: I mean they are really.
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Speaker 8: Freaking out, man, the fans, the media up here, everybody man.
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Speaker 3: That quarterback, you know, I mean, I mean JJ McCarthy
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Speaker 3: had his best game of his career last week because
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Speaker 3: it was the first game he hasn't thrown a pick,
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Speaker 3: so he's been throwing the ball to the other team
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Speaker 3: a lot.
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Speaker 8: And uh with Cowboys, Man, we took a tough loss
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Speaker 8: of Detroit. I really thought we should win that game.
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Speaker 8: But hey, we went what three and one those four games.
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Speaker 8: That's really good.
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Speaker 2: No one really.
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Speaker 8: Expected that when we looked at the schedule on the set,
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Speaker 8: I think we just need to win out handle our
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Speaker 8: business and I think we got a decent chance of
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Speaker 8: making it, and you know, we need some help of course.
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Speaker 8: And then when one question I have, what's the status
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Speaker 8: on Guidon?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, thanks for the call, Lester. The Guidon from
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Speaker 3: what from what I'm hearing is we'll we'll find out
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Speaker 3: today if he's if he does anything. I think what
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Speaker 3: it sort of has looked like over the last few
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Speaker 3: you know, weeks, months or whatever. And every player is different.
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Speaker 3: But if they don't practice on Wednesday, they usually don't
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Speaker 3: play in the game. If you can get them to
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Speaker 3: limits it on Wednesday and then maybe a full participant
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Speaker 3: on Thursday or Friday, then that that that you know,
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Speaker 3: more pushing forward and you know, kind of an upward trajectory.
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Speaker 3: But if they don't practice today, then you know, we'll
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Speaker 3: be surprised if he if he plays, but let's see,
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Speaker 3: let's just see. Right as this show is airing, it's
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Speaker 3: it's early, it's still in the morning. On Wednesday, they
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Speaker 3: practice about you know, twelve one o'clock or so, so
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Speaker 3: we'll see how it goes. And the injury report comes
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Speaker 3: out around three. So like to see, like, you know,
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Speaker 3: like to see him out there again. I think it's
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Speaker 3: a close race right now with with him and Nate Thomas.
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Speaker 3: They both young players that that that need to play,
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Speaker 3: and I think they're both probably more soon on the
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Speaker 3: left side. Terrence Steele is okay. On the right side,
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Speaker 3: I think you know, they can get better there too.
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Speaker 3: But you know that that I think he's been a
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Speaker 3: I think he's just you know, the definition of solid.
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Speaker 3: I think he's a solid player and he's I don't
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Speaker 3: think he's going to be a Pro Bowl player, at
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Speaker 3: least not this year. But he's solid. He makes pretty
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Speaker 3: good money. I mean, so you'd want a little bit
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Speaker 3: more than that. But I think he grades out well.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he has his time, I mean he has
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Speaker 3: he has issues with those speed rushers sometimes, just like
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Speaker 3: all of them do. But and neither one of them
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Speaker 3: played well in that game last week. They really, you know,
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Speaker 3: they they really needed CD to stay healthy in that game,
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Speaker 3: because when you look at what was happening there, one
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Speaker 3: of two things was going to happen. CD was going
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Speaker 3: to have two hundred and fifty yards receiving or they
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Speaker 3: were going to shift things back over to him. And
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Speaker 3: then now George Picketts was going to have a huge game,
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Speaker 3: but they were going to go off and Flinoy came
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Speaker 3: in and he did his thing too. I obviously rather
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Speaker 3: have CD, but but you know, that just goes to
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Speaker 3: show you what kind of success they could have had.
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Speaker 3: And and you know, let's let's not go too crazy
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Speaker 3: on that. Well, what's wrong with Pickens. That's that's kind
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Speaker 3: of the way the Lions were trying to cover things.
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Speaker 3: And guess what happened. Guy went for one hundred and
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Speaker 3: twelve in the first half. Cede Lamb before he got hurt.
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Speaker 3: Flinoy comes in, he has one hundred and fifteen or
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Speaker 3: one hundred and ten or whatever yards in the second half.
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Speaker 3: So you're gonna keep doing that, fine, Flinoy and Cede
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Speaker 3: Lamb will will continue to eat or whoever it is
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Speaker 3: on that other side, and teams won't continue to do that.
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Speaker 3: So I think you can still have a guy that's
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Speaker 3: a weapon without him putting up the big yards. And
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Speaker 3: I understand that doesn't help your fantasy football team, but
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Speaker 3: there's nothing really wrong with the situation when a guy
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Speaker 3: has numbers like that, especially when the guys on the
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Speaker 3: flip side are doing what they do.
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Speaker 9: Let's go, Hey, what's up, Nick?
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Speaker 3: Hey, how are you doing?
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Speaker 9: Doing good? How about you? Good good? I just kind
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Speaker 9: of wanted to talk about the upcoming game, a little
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Speaker 9: bit about our running game.
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Speaker 2: I like.
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Speaker 9: A couple of callers back he was talking a little
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Speaker 9: bit about how shot he was calling plays in the
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Speaker 9: red zone, especially getting away from the run. I'm kind
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Speaker 9: of this team has been frustrating for me, Nick, because
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Speaker 9: I mean, like with all of us we had we
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Speaker 9: were drinking the kool aid a couple of weeks ago
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Speaker 9: and then this Detroit game happened, and we went back
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Speaker 9: to all these things that we should have learned about,
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Speaker 9: you know, when we played Carolina and when we played
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Speaker 9: the Bears and even Arizona, and I just I can't,
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Speaker 9: I can't get past that. You know, half of us
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Speaker 9: fans that you know, watch a little bit of film.
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Speaker 9: I mean, we're not professionals, but you know we can
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Speaker 9: tell certain things that it seems like is getting lost
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Speaker 9: on this coaching staff, especially on the defensive.
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Speaker 2: Side, you know.
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Speaker 9: And I just don't know how to believe anymore.
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Speaker 3: What specific things are you talking about? You're kind of
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Speaker 3: you kind of va honestly.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, honestly. Kenneth murray Man, Yeah, he's just not good
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Speaker 9: at football, dude. And I'm sure he's a great guy.
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Speaker 9: And I don't want to pile on especially after all
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Speaker 9: we've been through this year, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 9: But it's just like every every person that watches this
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Speaker 9: team with any kind of passion or care knows that
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Speaker 9: that this guy, I think Dylan said earlier in the week,
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Speaker 9: it's almost having a minus one player having him on
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Speaker 9: the field because he's so unaware and he just plays
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Speaker 9: with no violence and no no passion, and it's just
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Speaker 9: I can't keep watching it. I will, but it's just
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Speaker 9: hard to watch every week where we keep doing the
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Speaker 9: same dumb stuff over and over and and and learn
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Speaker 9: from it. Right. So anyway, that's what I.
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Speaker 3: Got, all right, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, thanks for all you do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for the call. I can't argue with you,
19:26
Speaker 3: I really I'm not. I wouldn't want to there because, uh,
19:30
Speaker 3: you know, the linebacker situation has been a problem all
19:33
Speaker 3: season long, and it started out with Kenneth Murray and
19:37
Speaker 3: Jack Sanborn played in there in the middle. Then by
19:41
Speaker 3: week three or four, Shamar James comes in. Shamar James
19:44
Speaker 3: starts playing. He gets a lot of tackles. He's still
19:47
Speaker 3: not he's not great because he's a rookie still learning.
19:51
Speaker 3: But he flies to the ball and sometimes he flies
19:54
Speaker 3: out of position, but he's he's he's moving around, you know,
19:59
Speaker 3: and in the trade for for Logan Wilson and then
20:03
Speaker 3: they get over shown back and so you've you've made
20:07
Speaker 3: changes there, changes to the point where you would think
20:10
Speaker 3: maybe that would cut into Kenneth Murray's time, but it
20:13
Speaker 3: really hasn't. And we haven't seen a ton of plays there,
20:19
Speaker 3: maybe a couple tipped passes that led to an interception,
20:23
Speaker 3: or maybe a tackle for loss here and there. I'm
20:25
Speaker 3: trying to looking at his stats. You know. There he
20:31
Speaker 3: continues to lead the team in tackles. Doesn't always mean
20:35
Speaker 3: a lot because dround bland a second and that's not
20:37
Speaker 3: a good thing for your corner. That means they're they're
20:39
Speaker 3: going after him and he's making the too many tackles.
20:44
Speaker 3: But you know, you, Kenneth Murray, he's got one sack
20:49
Speaker 3: and maybe three or four tackles for loss. Not not
20:54
Speaker 3: as dynamic and you know, as far as the playmaker goes.
20:58
Speaker 3: So all right, let's let's go to Mark. He's in Davis, California. Mark.
21:03
Speaker 10: Hey, good morning. That's gone on.
21:05
Speaker 3: Hey, how are you doing well.
21:07
Speaker 10: I'm hanging in but thanks man, thanks for asking. Hey, no, listen,
21:10
Speaker 10: it's a couple of points. I'm just noticing that we
21:13
Speaker 10: get to improve on definitely. Man, we got to work
21:17
Speaker 10: on the turnover. The turnover margin man, the world. I
21:20
Speaker 10: think we're minus eight yeah just here or something. So yeah,
21:24
Speaker 10: we've got to take care of the ball, man, for sure,
21:28
Speaker 10: We'll get down the red zone. Man, We've got to
21:29
Speaker 10: come up with touchdowns, we gotta get six those still
21:32
Speaker 10: those aren't cutting it for sure. And then also special teams, Man,
21:38
Speaker 10: that was that was not good last week. So we
21:42
Speaker 10: got to really improve on social teams. So but I'm
21:44
Speaker 10: sure this was other factors in as well. But that's it, man.
21:47
Speaker 10: I think you hopefully work on those things, but hopefully,
21:51
Speaker 10: you know, we've got a better chance of doing better overall.
21:55
Speaker 10: And my score for the game, uh, I think we
21:59
Speaker 10: pull it out close. Tough, excuse me, but I think we.
22:02
Speaker 11: Pull it out thirty.
22:04
Speaker 10: One twenty seven. And yeah, hopefully they could get these
22:09
Speaker 10: four run that went out and then hopefully the best man,
22:14
Speaker 10: hope for the best, and hopefully we sneak you in there.
22:17
Speaker 10: And uh, that's said. But thanks, I'm sticking a car,
22:20
Speaker 10: have a great one and go Cowboys.
22:22
Speaker 3: All right, thank you. I'll touch on one of those points.
22:26
Speaker 3: There are special teams. Yeah, Shaddy had said that he
22:30
Speaker 3: expects of changes there personnel wise. You know, not sure
22:34
Speaker 3: what all you can do there as far as who's
22:39
Speaker 3: on your roster. I mean, most of the guys there
22:41
Speaker 3: that are that are going to play for you on
22:45
Speaker 3: special teams have probably already been playing. I mean you
22:47
Speaker 3: could tweak some things here and there. I think it's
22:51
Speaker 3: a bigger picture though, honestly than just the personnel. I
22:56
Speaker 3: think I think we're seeing that with with Turpin not
23:01
Speaker 3: not really having a lot of you know, a lot
23:04
Speaker 3: of places to do things. And and you know, you
23:07
Speaker 3: go back to Nick Sorens in one of his earlier
23:09
Speaker 3: press conferences when he first got the job. You know,
23:12
Speaker 3: he he kind of said something that was I think
23:16
Speaker 3: he was you know, he was trying to to give
23:18
Speaker 3: praise to the guys he's inheriting as a coaches. I mean,
23:23
Speaker 3: think about it. I mean, got Aubrey Anger, Trent Sigg,
23:27
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's a veteran snapper, he doesn't had
23:29
Speaker 3: any bad snaps. He's he's fine. Turpin's a two time
23:32
Speaker 3: pro bowler.
23:33
Speaker 12: C J.
23:34
Speaker 3: Goodwins is a really good place. So he kind of
23:36
Speaker 3: made the thing there's not a lot, you know, I
23:38
Speaker 3: don't have to do a whole lot here. I just
23:40
Speaker 3: got to let them do what they do.
23:43
Speaker 5: Yeah.
23:43
Speaker 3: But but I think we're kind of seeing too from
23:46
Speaker 3: a coaching standpoint, especially with a Turpend in the returns.
23:49
Speaker 3: You know these things, He's not just gonna run out
23:51
Speaker 3: there and score. You know, it's got to get blocked.
23:54
Speaker 3: It's got to get and I'm not saying that he
23:56
Speaker 3: doesn't do that. He was trying to just kind of
23:59
Speaker 3: throw that out there and say give props to his
24:01
Speaker 3: guys and that he's got some talented players. But as
24:05
Speaker 3: you can see, it needs a little more than that.
24:07
Speaker 3: And so far this year, whatever it's it hasn't worked
24:10
Speaker 3: to that point where we've seen some some really you know,
24:14
Speaker 3: great plays from the return game. We've seen some block kicks,
24:18
Speaker 3: We've seen some things here and there, some touchdowns, some
24:21
Speaker 3: some some nice plays on defense, I mean and special teams,
24:25
Speaker 3: but from returns game, haven't really seen that this year.
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Speaker 15: Nat you doing good? The great good good? Yeah, my
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Speaker 15: score get just the way thinking it'll be Cowboys thirty
26:39
Speaker 15: twenty five. A couple of couple of questions. One is
26:45
Speaker 15: what's the status on like you know, Digs and Clowney
26:50
Speaker 15: and CD. And second thing, I just yeah, agree with
26:55
Speaker 15: dery Bobs. We needed you come up with different either
27:00
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27:03
Speaker 15: short quick screens or whatever something like that. But otherwise,
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Speaker 15: have a good day, calculator.
27:09
Speaker 3: All I appreciate it. Digs and uh Clowney CD guid
27:18
Speaker 3: and I mentioned him earlier, those guys, you know, we'll
27:21
Speaker 3: see we'll see what happens today on in Wednesday's practice,
27:23
Speaker 3: I mentioned that before uh CD I think has a
27:27
Speaker 3: shot to play. That's something that Schottenheimer had said earlier,
27:31
Speaker 3: that that the having these extra days with the concussion.
27:33
Speaker 3: That's the first thing I thought of was when when
27:35
Speaker 3: he when he was on the ground, I was like, this,
27:38
Speaker 3: this looks like a concussion and you got ten days
27:41
Speaker 3: to the next game. Because I think gone are the days.
27:46
Speaker 3: And I could be wrong here, but gone are the
27:48
Speaker 3: days where it's seven day, seven days for concussion. I mean,
27:53
Speaker 3: that really hasn't been the case. And it's actually been
27:57
Speaker 3: two games, if not more in certain cases. So I
28:02
Speaker 3: think it was a very I think CD was was
28:05
Speaker 3: was disappointed that he was getting pulled out of that game.
28:09
Speaker 3: I think he thought he could go. They just don't
28:13
Speaker 3: risk it anymore. I mean, if you're if you're a
28:16
Speaker 3: little woozy, you're done. That's just the way it's it's been.
28:20
Speaker 3: And I you know, I can't say I disagree with
28:24
Speaker 3: that at all. I mean, but but that's just the
28:26
Speaker 3: way that it is. Now with ten days, maybe he's
28:29
Speaker 3: got he's got a better shot here to to come
28:31
Speaker 3: back and play in this game. As for the other guys,
28:33
Speaker 3: let's just kind of see how the injury report goes out.
28:36
Speaker 3: They're they're all a little fifty to fifty, but we'll
28:38
Speaker 3: see if they can get out there and practice. And
28:41
Speaker 3: then I'll make this point about your running game. And
28:44
Speaker 3: we talked about in the in the red zone there.
28:47
Speaker 3: You know, when you draft Tyler Smith in twenty fourth
28:53
Speaker 3: I think he was he was a guard that you know,
28:57
Speaker 3: tackle that could play guard maybe tackle, but they didn't
29:00
Speaker 3: know exactly where to be, but they knew he had
29:02
Speaker 3: the strength to play inside. You draft bb in the
29:05
Speaker 3: third round, and then you draft Booker twelfth overall. So
29:11
Speaker 3: you should be a team that could run the football
29:14
Speaker 3: right up the middle in the red zone, late in
29:16
Speaker 3: the game, run out the clock. You should be that
29:20
Speaker 3: kind of team and eventually that that's that's got to
29:23
Speaker 3: be the goal is to play that that style of
29:26
Speaker 3: football with those guys. If not, then you don't. You
29:30
Speaker 3: don't draft Booker twelfth overall. If he can't be a guy.
29:33
Speaker 3: That's why you get a guard in the first round.
29:35
Speaker 3: Says he needs to be somebody that could just move
29:38
Speaker 3: people off the Ballate Nate Kneton used to say it
29:41
Speaker 3: all the time. There would be games where he would
29:43
Speaker 3: be lining up right in front of his his guy
29:48
Speaker 3: and he'd be like, hey, it's coming right here. I'm
29:51
Speaker 3: going to hit you. Moose is coming behind me, and
29:55
Speaker 3: then Emmett stop it, and they couldn't. That's what this
30:00
Speaker 3: team has to get back to. It's got to get
30:02
Speaker 3: to that point where you get down in the red zone,
30:06
Speaker 3: stop us because we're going to run the ball. We're
30:08
Speaker 3: going to move you off the ball. And that's what
30:11
Speaker 3: I think has got to get you know, and you
30:13
Speaker 3: can't do it every single play, but you do it
30:16
Speaker 3: enough the play accident. That's where you're tied in just
30:19
Speaker 3: sitting there basically calling a fair catch a real fair catch,
30:23
Speaker 3: not one where you fake the fair catch, since faking
30:25
Speaker 3: the fair catch is a thing now. Dylan, Northport, Florida,
30:30
Speaker 3: what's up, man, Dylan?
30:35
Speaker 2: Hey, how you doing, dude?
30:37
Speaker 3: How you doing? Man? We're doing this?
30:41
Speaker 8: Yeah?
30:41
Speaker 5: Sorry, I just I just cut in.
30:42
Speaker 16: I couldn't hear anything on the phone. I'm here, I'm here,
30:45
Speaker 16: all right.
30:46
Speaker 8: That's sorry.
30:47
Speaker 3: That's on being being said. It's on me being with
30:50
Speaker 3: the with the my bad.
30:52
Speaker 16: We will forgive you, Chris, definitely.
30:56
Speaker 3: Don't you hate. And this is not not a beam
30:59
Speaker 3: thing saying. In football, when a guy drops a pass
31:02
Speaker 3: or like Tyler Goyiton did it where he like a
31:04
Speaker 3: false start at the one and he's like, my bad, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
31:08
Speaker 3: we see it.
31:09
Speaker 16: Man, guy like, hey, Guidon might have got tricked though
31:13
Speaker 16: it might have been an Eagles defender and on his defense, right,
31:16
Speaker 16: you ever get that one figured out?
31:18
Speaker 9: Was that dact that that did that?
31:19
Speaker 16: You know, the the meet him jump or was that
31:21
Speaker 16: an Eagle defender yelling something out oh.
31:25
Speaker 3: Defense? Yeah, well yeah screamed and he jumped, so.
31:29
Speaker 16: The ref needed to say my bad then on that one.
31:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how they ever call that, honestly,
31:34
Speaker 3: Like the ref isn't there the ref I mean, he's
31:37
Speaker 3: not lined up right there. I don't know how they
31:40
Speaker 3: ever called that where they the guys are barking signals
31:42
Speaker 3: and all that. It's it's that's crazy. It's crazy to
31:46
Speaker 3: me why the defense couldn't be able to do that.
31:48
Speaker 3: Get the offense. The quarterback could change his Caten's up
31:50
Speaker 3: and all that. Oh well, anyways, what you get.
31:57
Speaker 16: I saw some people talking about how if shot and him,
32:00
Speaker 16: if the Cowboys don't make the playoffs, then Schottenheimer's first
32:02
Speaker 16: season will have been a failure. And I couldn't disagree
32:05
Speaker 16: more with that. I think that's ridiculous.
32:09
Speaker 11: You know, it's the first.
32:12
Speaker 16: It does sound like something an Eagles people would say,
32:14
Speaker 16: but it's Cowboys fans saying it, and it's silly. It's
32:18
Speaker 16: silly because you can't he's a first year head coach.
32:21
Speaker 16: I think I look back and in the history of
32:24
Speaker 16: the NFL, two first year head coaches went to the
32:26
Speaker 16: super Bowl.
32:26
Speaker 9: That was it.
32:27
Speaker 16: In all the years the NFL has existed, that was it.
32:30
Speaker 16: So it just doesn't happen.
32:31
Speaker 11: So measure success.
32:33
Speaker 16: People don't like to get into the nitty gritty and
32:35
Speaker 16: look past the low hanging fruit, right, and we see
32:37
Speaker 16: with the Jerry blame all the time. I think that's ridiculous.
32:40
Speaker 16: Most of the time up that he's blameless, but I
32:42
Speaker 16: think that's lazy and ridiculous. And I think this is
32:44
Speaker 16: lazy and ridiculous because he's laying a foundation and you're
32:47
Speaker 16: seeing things that you didn't see with the last administration.
32:49
Speaker 16: You're seeing hold players accountable, they're restarting practices. How many
32:53
Speaker 16: times last season did you see players and the coach
32:55
Speaker 16: come out after a game say, yeah, we had a
32:57
Speaker 16: bad week of practice. That doesn't happen apparent and Leander Schoenheimer.
33:01
Speaker 16: So far, he's not letting it happen, so that's good.
33:03
Speaker 16: He's holding guys accountable with Steede and Pickens, you know,
33:06
Speaker 16: holding them out of the first series, like he's he's
33:08
Speaker 16: building a culture here and starting something fresh. And anybody
33:11
Speaker 16: that like really realistically looked at this team and the
33:13
Speaker 16: roster and the holes they had, they knew this probably
33:16
Speaker 16: unless something crazy happened, this wasn't going to be a
33:18
Speaker 16: super Bowl year. That would have been insane unless they
33:21
Speaker 16: got lucky, kind of like the CA Spanders the last
33:23
Speaker 16: year on their big playoff run. So I think this
33:25
Speaker 16: is a big step in the right direction season. I
33:27
Speaker 16: think it's a culture foundational season, and I really think
33:30
Speaker 16: with a good free agency and offseason next year, none
33:33
Speaker 16: of this season's over by any stretch. There's still some
33:35
Speaker 16: way to go, but I think they're well on their
33:37
Speaker 16: way to being a real contender potentially next season. Undershotenheimer
33:41
Speaker 16: depends what they do at DC though, And I guess
33:43
Speaker 16: I can call later on and talk about that guy,
33:45
Speaker 16: but that's a conversation I guess for another time.
33:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, hey, Dylan, I appreciate the call and
33:50
Speaker 3: I think you you're onto something there. I don't know
33:53
Speaker 3: who all says that, and you know that's just frustrated
33:57
Speaker 3: and talk. But you got to remember this. As soon
33:59
Speaker 3: as that trade was completed, that trade, not any of
34:03
Speaker 3: the other six or seven. I'm talking about that one.
34:06
Speaker 3: As soon as that was completed, I think all bets
34:09
Speaker 3: were off of what we could really evaluate Schottenheimer this
34:12
Speaker 3: year because think about how the trade was set up.
34:17
Speaker 3: It wasn't just for Kenny Clark. I mean, that wasn't
34:20
Speaker 3: the deal. The deal was for two first round picks
34:23
Speaker 3: won this year. I mean one in twenty six, one
34:26
Speaker 3: in twenty seven. That's the deal. So you traded away
34:30
Speaker 3: a top five player in the NFL, one of the
34:33
Speaker 3: best at his position, and he's having it. He's playing
34:36
Speaker 3: great in Green Bay, and you miss him here because
34:39
Speaker 3: you haven't replaced him so and it's been a problem.
34:43
Speaker 3: So you traded that guy basically for two first round picks.
34:47
Speaker 3: I know Kenny Clark was here, but he hasn't been
34:49
Speaker 3: a difference maker and come with the terms of this defense.
34:53
Speaker 3: So he's a piece of it, but not a big
34:57
Speaker 3: huge part. And they haven't changed things around. But so
35:01
Speaker 3: you can't evaluate really. I mean, that's that's what it was.
35:04
Speaker 3: This was a future move and so he's the head coach.
35:07
Speaker 3: He's not going anywhere. But I mean, you know, you
35:09
Speaker 3: took away his best player and and for for two
35:12
Speaker 3: guys that aren't even here yet. Now they did flip
35:14
Speaker 3: one and they got Quinnon Williams and we've seen a
35:16
Speaker 3: change and you're still going to get another one. But
35:19
Speaker 3: yet we haven't seen what the trade hasn't come out yet,
35:23
Speaker 3: so I don't know how you can really fully evaluate
35:27
Speaker 3: what he's done. That's just my opinion. I think there's
35:29
Speaker 3: been some good things. There's been some culture changes. You
35:32
Speaker 3: don't change culture overnight, you don't. You have to change
35:35
Speaker 3: it over the course of the season. I think he's
35:37
Speaker 3: in the process of doing that. I think this team
35:40
Speaker 3: has plays hard for him. They they've they've done a
35:44
Speaker 3: good job. Now he he's learned some things. I think
35:46
Speaker 3: what Lester said way back in earlier on the show
35:49
Speaker 3: about you know, he's first year head coach and you've
35:52
Speaker 3: got to give him a little bit of time to
35:54
Speaker 3: do that and learn some things. He's been around a lot,
35:56
Speaker 3: but not necessarily doing it all. He's been he's been
35:59
Speaker 3: an off if it's a coordinator before, but he hasn't
36:01
Speaker 3: been the guy to decide things on defense and you know,
36:05
Speaker 3: when when when to do this and that and take
36:08
Speaker 3: this guy out of the game and all all these
36:09
Speaker 3: kind of things. So he's learning, and I think the
36:12
Speaker 3: Cowboys are definitely patient with him. And you know, as
36:16
Speaker 3: a guy that was not the best student in school,
36:19
Speaker 3: I believe. I mean, if you fail, you fail. But
36:21
Speaker 3: there's d's and their c's and b's and a's, uh
36:25
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I don't think he's going to
36:27
Speaker 3: be It's not going to be a failure for him.
36:29
Speaker 3: You don't make it to the playoff, he I mean,
36:32
Speaker 3: they didn't. They'll fail at their goals like twenty other
36:37
Speaker 3: teams will, but I don't think it will be a
36:40
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36:43
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Speaker 3: Rob in Vegas, what's up? I hear you want?
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Speaker 11: You can't disagree more with you and my boy Dylan.
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Speaker 11: Why if this team doesn't make the playoffs, it's a failure.
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Speaker 3: Okay, all right? That and that and that's that's the
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Speaker 3: way people think. That's fine, that's fine.
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Speaker 17: That day.
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Speaker 11: That is professional football.
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Speaker 8: This team.
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Speaker 3: What what is a failure though? What see you're answering
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Speaker 3: different things. What is a failure? The season?
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Speaker 11: Not not not making the playoffsky?
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Speaker 3: Fine?
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Speaker 11: This steps steps in the season. The first step is
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Speaker 11: that's fine. You have to have enough wins to get
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Speaker 11: into the tournament.
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Speaker 3: That how it works.
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Speaker 11: That's how it works. And if you don't make it,
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Speaker 11: it's a failure, especially when you got the highest paid quarterback,
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Speaker 11: you got the third highest paid wide receiver, the highest
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Speaker 11: paid guard. You brought in George Pickens, and.
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Speaker 3: I get it. So that Okay, they don't make the playoffs,
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Speaker 3: who's your coach next year? Then who's your head goat Well.
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Speaker 11: That's that's that's meaningless because he's got a contract. Somebody
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Speaker 11: fires coaches after one year.
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Speaker 3: They could.
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Speaker 11: No, they could, but listen it doesn't mean that Shoddy
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Speaker 11: can't be better the following year. But it's a failure. Okay,
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Speaker 11: it's a failure. This team will make the playoffs. And
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Speaker 11: if you interviewed the players if it happens, they would
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Speaker 11: say that. I hope they would say that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think we're just you're arguing two different things.
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Speaker 3: You're arguing two different things.
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Speaker 11: It's another thing. Another thing Dylan said was he said,
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Speaker 11: as fans, we didn't expect the Cowboys to be a
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Speaker 11: playoff team.
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Speaker 14: I did.
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Speaker 11: You brought in George Pickens, so now you had two
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Speaker 11: number one wide receivers. You improved your offensive line supposedly
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Speaker 11: by drafting Booker, you got a running back. Now. I
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Speaker 11: didn't expect them to trade the best defensive player in
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Speaker 11: the league, which blew up the season, honestly, because if
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Speaker 11: you would have kept Micah and kept the team exactly
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Speaker 11: the same, you don't have Kenny Clark because that never happens.
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Speaker 11: But then you go trade for Quinn Williams, which you
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Speaker 11: still could have did. Could you imagine Quinn Williams and
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Speaker 11: Micah on this team right now, this team, this defense
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Speaker 11: would be unstoppable. So I have to blame Jerry because
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Speaker 11: it was Jerry that made the move. It's Jerry's the
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Speaker 11: one constant in the last thirty years, We've had one
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Speaker 11: hundred coaches, quarterbacks, this, that, and the other thing. So yes,
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Speaker 11: he gets all the blame because he's the GM too.
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Speaker 11: So I just I just disagree.
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Speaker 2: I I this team.
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Speaker 11: What's weird is we expect them now to go on
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Speaker 11: a run. We're expecting them to win four in a
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Speaker 11: row and get to the get to the playoffs. That's
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Speaker 11: but yet before the season, we didn't expect that and
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Speaker 11: we had Micah. So I'm just a little confused with that.
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Speaker 11: This team was good enough. This team should be, should
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Speaker 11: have made should make the playoffs, should have made the playoffs.
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Speaker 11: And I'm sorry if this team falls short, it's a failure.
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Speaker 3: It just is. Yeah, Okay, thanks thanks for the call. Rob.
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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's disagreeing with that. I feel like
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Speaker 3: you're changing the uh. I think you're you're you're kind
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Speaker 3: of moving the goalpost a little bit here because uh
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Speaker 3: you what Dylan. I think what Dylan was saying was
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Speaker 3: was that that Shody was considered it was a failure
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Speaker 3: on him. I get what your goal is. Your goal
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Speaker 3: is to make the playoffs, and if you don't make it,
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Speaker 3: you fell short of that. It was a failure for
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Speaker 3: for for making that goal, but it's not a failure
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Speaker 3: for building something. And when you take your best player
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Speaker 3: and you move it to next year, then obviously that
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Speaker 3: is where some of the focus is, not all of it.
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Speaker 3: You still want to win the games, but some of
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Speaker 3: your focuses and some of your priorities were pushed to
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Speaker 3: next year or you wouldn't have made the trade.
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Speaker 17: So I get it.
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Speaker 3: And who made the trade? Jerry made the trade. And
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Speaker 3: then that's how you started talking about Jerry. Fine, this
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Speaker 3: was about Shody. That was the original part was about Shody.
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Speaker 3: Can this guy be your head coach?
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Speaker 17: Is he?
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Speaker 3: That was the decision that was made that no one liked,
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Speaker 3: including myself. No one liked that move now looking at
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Speaker 3: it now, just from that standpoint, Is he the guy
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Speaker 3: that you think can turn this around and get them
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Speaker 3: where they want to go with a full roster, with
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Speaker 3: with you know, with great players at at all positions. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I think I think he can. That's what the evaluation was.
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Speaker 3: And I don't you know this thing got changed to
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Speaker 3: you know, how you believe in seasons, Is it a
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Speaker 3: failure and all that stuff, And maybe I'm the wrong
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Speaker 3: guy for that because when I started my first four
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Speaker 3: years working here, I saw eight and eight playoffs, but
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Speaker 3: then I saw three, five and elevens. So maybe I
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Speaker 3: have a different opinion about what a failure is and
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Speaker 3: all that. I mean, yeah, you want to make the playoffs,
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Speaker 3: you want to win the super Bowl, all that, because
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Speaker 3: I guarantee you there are people out there that say,
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Speaker 3: if you don't win the super Bowl, that's a failure.
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Speaker 3: Let's go to Bruce in Houston.
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Speaker 14: Nick, so well, Rob can get under your skin and
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Speaker 14: a hurry brother.
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Speaker 3: Good, No, I love it. That's that's good. That's good.
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Speaker 3: As I told Rob, is the guy shooting baskets in
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Speaker 3: the pool when the little fluting goal, the goals moving,
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Speaker 3: that's not what we were talking about. It was over here.
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Speaker 3: Now you moved over here. And I love Rob and
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Speaker 3: robbed that I.
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Speaker 17: Know.
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Speaker 14: And he's from Vegas to right, So that that's my guy,
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Speaker 14: all right, And you know you stole my thunder because
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Speaker 14: that's what I was gonna say. Well, Rob, according to
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Speaker 14: your analogy there, then the whoever lost the super Bowl
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Speaker 14: that year was an utter failure you know, next season.
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Speaker 11: And that is true some people.
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Speaker 3: Some people say that the question is can Scotty is
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Speaker 3: Shoty the right guy? Is he on the right path
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Speaker 3: for a guy that no one liked this move? Here
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Speaker 3: we are almost a full season in. Is he the
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Speaker 3: guy that that that can, that can turn this around fully?
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Speaker 3: And I think I think so. I think he's it's
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Speaker 3: been a good hire. That's really what the pust is.
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Speaker 3: He's just been a good hire.
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Speaker 14: I think so too, And I agree a couple of callers, well, Dylan,
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Speaker 14: he mentioned that he's creating a culture, and that's that's
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Speaker 14: that's what you need. Those guys. We got to remember
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Speaker 14: these guys are twenty two and twenty three year they're
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Speaker 14: just kids. I mean, of course they can say that
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Speaker 14: when I'm in my sixties, but they're still kids. Even
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Speaker 14: though they're grown giant men, they're still young young men
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Speaker 14: that still need to be developed. And I hate to
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Speaker 14: say it, he's partially right there because Jerry did hire
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Speaker 14: eber Flus before or well, I mean, you know, it
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Speaker 14: seemed like he didn't get the higher's defensive coordinator and
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Speaker 14: that's kind of why I called do you think if?
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Speaker 14: And I don't want him to be fired because you
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Speaker 14: hate to start over on another defensive coordinator. But is
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Speaker 14: there a defensive coordinator were I was listening to the
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Speaker 14: Talking Cowboys before and they were talking about Brian Flores,
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Speaker 14: what a innovator he is and how he uses it
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Speaker 14: almost like a almost like a almost like a Bimmerman?
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Speaker 5: Did is is he?
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Speaker 14: Would he be that type of coach to to coach
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Speaker 14: the It depends on the players we have, you know,
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Speaker 14: are they zone players? Are they press covers?
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Speaker 5: You know?
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Speaker 14: Pick pick a lane, so to speak. But talk a
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Speaker 14: little bit about I hope he doesn't get fired. I
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Speaker 14: think they need some continuity. What would Jerry let uh shot?
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Speaker 14: He pick his own defensive corner? I should go. But
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Speaker 14: I think this team is in the right direction. I
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Speaker 14: I love the trade. It's going to be curious to
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Speaker 14: see what their two number one picks are going to be.
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Speaker 14: And I like our cornerbacks. Caylin Carson was playing pretty good,
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Speaker 14: and I like to see what Rebel is gonna do.
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Speaker 14: This is like pre season for him, you know what
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Speaker 14: I mean?
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Speaker 3: Anyway, all right, thanks for the call. I'm sorry to
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Speaker 3: cut you off. We got one more caller, I'll say
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Speaker 3: this about the defensive coordinator part. You know, they have
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Speaker 3: a coordinator here, so I'm not going to get into
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Speaker 3: what they're going to do unless unless there is a
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Speaker 3: change made. I'll say this though, that if shot shot
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Speaker 3: he calls plays on offense, he has got to be
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Speaker 3: in tune with the defensive coordinator one thousand percent. He's
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Speaker 3: got to believe what that guy believes. And if they
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Speaker 3: have differences of opinion, and I'm not saying they do
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Speaker 3: or don't, I'm just saying, if there, that has to
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Speaker 3: be number one. Uh, he's got to know, Hey, I'm
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Speaker 3: dealing with the offensive guys here and on what this
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Speaker 3: last series was like. But I hope the hell that
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Speaker 3: he's blitzing here two times on the on this series,
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Speaker 3: or or we're playing a prevent or whatever it is.
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Speaker 3: He's got to know that his defensive coordinator has this
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Speaker 3: back there and and if that's the case with Flu's fine,
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Speaker 3: they'll get better here in the year two. If that's
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Speaker 3: not the case, then that's really what Shoddy needs. Let's
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Speaker 3: go Eric in Arkansas. One more one more caller, Eric.
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Speaker 2: Hey, how's it going good?
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Speaker 3: How are you doing?
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty good first time caller, so I just wanted
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Speaker 2: to get on and I just got here.
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Speaker 3: We go all right, let's go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm not a big hope on a state.
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Speaker 2: So I got two things.
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Speaker 3: One thanks for the win. That was the last one.
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Speaker 3: With that, sorry, go ahead.
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Speaker 2: I got two things. Won the Parson deal. I don't
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Speaker 2: think we were going to actually, you know, we couldn't
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Speaker 2: afford them. And now, if we were to pay Parson
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Speaker 2: forty seven million, everybody said we would have overpaid him,
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But for green Bay, I
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Speaker 2: guess that's a good thing. Two Parson, when he was
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Speaker 2: on the team for four years, our defense still won
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Speaker 2: a ranked in the top ten or five or ten.
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Speaker 2: We were still giving up the run, still giving up
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Speaker 2: almost three hundred yards against Green Bay in the playoff game,
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Speaker 2: he had one tackle. So you know, I can't I
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Speaker 2: can't say Parson really losing parts really hurt the defense.
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Speaker 2: For that fact, I've seen with Parson on the team,
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Speaker 2: I defense still won rank. Now do you can put
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Speaker 2: Williams with that, It's a different story, you know what
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Speaker 2: I mean. That's a totally difference. But when we go
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Speaker 2: after Williams, if we still kept Parson, as we paid
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Speaker 2: forty seven million. You're right exactly exactly. You see what
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Speaker 2: I'm saying. So we were still being in the same situation.
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Speaker 2: Can't stop the run. Now our defensive scheme now we
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Speaker 2: got press corners. Yeah, and we're playing him his own Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I don't think they would have made that trade because
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Speaker 3: you would have had to trade next year as one
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Speaker 3: and or or the one in twenty twenty seven and
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Speaker 3: a second.
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Speaker 2: And I don't think yeah exactly, you know, so are
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Speaker 2: sports would you have needed that?
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Speaker 3: I mean seriously, though, if you've got Osa that you
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Speaker 3: paid and and and you have Michael on the outside,
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Speaker 3: But I think what your point you're saying is and
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Speaker 3: we kind of have to go. Are you saying that, like,
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Speaker 3: even if you would have kept Micah, you still have
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Speaker 3: problems on defense.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, okay, yeah, fair linebackers and everything else. Yeah, we've
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Speaker 2: had major problems.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe other other issues too.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't the most well liked person
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Speaker 3: in the world. Now is that is that? Does that
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Speaker 3: mean trade him? No, that's not the reason you trade him.
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Speaker 3: But you know he wasn't You know that there were
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Speaker 3: issues there, There were there were issues, and there's gonna
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Speaker 3: be issues with Green Bay too. That's just who he is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, well go ahead, I will say this,
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Speaker 2: Emmy cuts you off. But here's the thing too, when
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Speaker 2: he laid on the table, I knew it was over.
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Speaker 3: It was over. I one hundred percent agree, And I
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Speaker 3: wrote that in my column that on the table, when
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Speaker 3: we went on the table, you don't do that. You
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Speaker 3: don't do that. And what you're showing is is that
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Speaker 3: if it's not about me, I don't care. There were
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Speaker 3: young defensive ends, young defensive players that look up to him,
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Speaker 3: that that was their shot. They were playing. They were
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Speaker 3: playing for their career right there. And if some guy
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Speaker 3: that you don't you've never heard of, gets a sack,
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Speaker 3: that means a lot. He could be on the practice squad.
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Speaker 3: I've seen Jesse Holly make a career because he made
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Speaker 3: a play in the last preseason game. And Micah Parsons
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Speaker 3: is falling asleep because he's bored. That's not a team guy.
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Speaker 3: Get him out of here. And that's what they did.
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Speaker 3: Once that happened, it was over over and all right,
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Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta roll.
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 3: It was great talking to you. Thanks for the first time,
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Speaker 3: call make sure and call back. Guys, great show, good
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Speaker 3: good stuff.
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Speaker 11: Rob.
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Speaker 3: You know you're my guy. You know you're my guy.
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Speaker 3: We just argue to argue sometimes, Dylan, thanks for kind
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Speaker 3: of setting that up and all that good stuff today.
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Speaker 3: Glad to have a full show. If you know, you know,
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