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You Are What You Eat With MATT VERINDER From GRIM RHYTHM · HEAVY Music Interviews

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Speaker 1: Album came out yesterday, Always Eating Shit Like it's.
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Speaker 2: A very very morbid kind of title. Where did it
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Speaker 2: come from?
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Speaker 3: It's as take it just like our term of eating
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Speaker 3: ship is just like you know, driving six hours to
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Speaker 3: play a show and there's five people there, you know
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Speaker 3: what I mean.
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Speaker 2: He got Keno going in the background. We will have
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Speaker 2: been there, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: Like it's just the grind, the pursuit, the fuck it
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Speaker 3: ever ending ship you have to eat so you know,
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Speaker 3: then play one good sold out show out of twenty,
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's just yeah, yeah, it's
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Speaker 3: just about that, and it's about you know, the relentlessness
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Speaker 3: of it and just you know, not giving up as well.
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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, that's it sounds ridiculous, which it is,
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Speaker 3: but it does have a good meaning behind.
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Speaker 1: It, you know what I mean for sure, for sure,
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Speaker 1: and I think anyone in the industry is you know,
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Speaker 1: doing the hard yards knows that consistency and no one's
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Speaker 1: doing it for the money.
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Speaker 2: We're doing for the love of it. And you can.
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Speaker 1: Keep having fun doing it, you know, it's something if
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Speaker 1: you And there's the other thing too, is to be
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Speaker 1: different pathways to making it these days there's not one
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Speaker 1: set to degree that you must follow, et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: I imagine you guys have been doing it for some
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Speaker 1: time now that you've beat from the old to the
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Speaker 1: new way of it coming about, and especially now I
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Speaker 1: find after COVID, like live music locally and like regionally is.
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Speaker 2: Just it's so much more than what it was before.
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Speaker 1: I think that's so much more opportunity for artists to
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Speaker 1: you know, certainly get a cult following underground wherever it
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Speaker 1: may be.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, so as that how you experience it if
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Speaker 1: guys have found so were you guys are based in Melbourne? Yeah, yeah, so,
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Speaker 1: I mean again, Melbourne's got so much to offer when
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Speaker 1: it comes to music.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're so spoiled.
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Speaker 3: It's we talk about it all the time, and it's like,
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Speaker 3: you know, travel the world all these other places and
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Speaker 3: like playing different plays and stuff like that. Be like
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Speaker 3: I'm always comparing it to Melbourne, and I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 3: that's a really unfair comparison because it's always going to
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Speaker 3: be better here, you know what I mean. It's like
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Speaker 3: I'm not even just biased, like it's just the truth,
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Speaker 3: you know what.
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Speaker 2: I mean, like absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I think between Adelaide as well, they've got such a
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Speaker 1: strong music scene underground. And I'm from like you know, Brisbane,
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Speaker 1: like Gold Coast, so even especially in the northern rivers,
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Speaker 1: like where it's the melting pot of like you know,
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Speaker 1: talent and like a lot of industries, bagulineeds who made
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Speaker 1: it you know, come here as well and not for
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Speaker 1: their you know, settling into the to the fabric of
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Speaker 1: this community and it seeks out, you know. And I
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Speaker 1: feel the same, very spoilt and very lucky to have
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Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities and venues too. I think that's
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Speaker 1: a big thing is when you've got a venue that's
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Speaker 1: supportive you guys are you know, it's so much easier
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Speaker 1: than trying to like fight you a way to get
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Speaker 1: a gig at a bowl that you know five.
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Speaker 2: Kind of thing. Yeah exactly. They might be turned off
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Speaker 2: by the style of music or something like that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is, yeah, we're so lucky here and like
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Speaker 3: there's so many, so many great venues in Melbourne. There's
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Speaker 3: a lot that close, but then more pop up and
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Speaker 3: there's one duer and the people who own them are
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Speaker 3: doing it, like you know, like Shane and Leanne who
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Speaker 3: owned the Toe and the Last Chance Rock and Roll.
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Speaker 3: But like they just grind every day like they fucking
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Speaker 3: live and breed that shit. They're not making any fucking money,
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But they're doing it because
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Speaker 3: they grew up going to these places and they want
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Speaker 3: to see young men. They want to see young bands succeed.
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Speaker 3: They want to see these gigs, you know. They they're
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Speaker 3: behind the bar pool and beers. They're not just owners,
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like they're working hard.
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Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.
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Speaker 1: And that's the thing too, Like when you've been like
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Speaker 1: come from when we were younger, like I'm in my
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Speaker 1: mid forties now, but that was you know, the pub bands,
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Speaker 1: that's where they started and you know some of our
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Speaker 1: best bands that we have now, that's where they did
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Speaker 1: their cut their teeth, so to speak. And it's what
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Speaker 1: do you think in the other day, like you know,
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Speaker 1: the loss of festivals that we had, you know for
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Speaker 1: so long, which so many bands were able to get
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Speaker 1: you know, a kickout and you know get on stage
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Speaker 1: with you know, the small stage, even the feeling far between.
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Speaker 1: But I think what that's done is it's pushed that
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Speaker 1: live gig so now you're doing like a couple of
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Speaker 1: headliner shows or maybe three or four other bands, and
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Speaker 1: I think it's probably more focus on, you know, a
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Speaker 1: band that's on their way up than it is you know,
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Speaker 1: being on a stage that you lost.
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Speaker 2: You know, a bill of so many other artists.
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Speaker 1: And I really think because I'm thinking, you know, like
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Speaker 1: the Goods were coming up and I'm like, gotta remember,
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Speaker 1: you know, back in twenty eight whatever, it was my
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Speaker 1: oldest sort and I've seen them so many times.
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Speaker 2: I get every festival here and.
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Speaker 1: There, and it's like it's been like two thousand has
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Speaker 1: this last time we went to one of the had
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Speaker 1: one of concerts?
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Speaker 2: And just how much more focuses.
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Speaker 1: On someone like say even them now they're stuck in
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Speaker 1: a festival bill.
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Speaker 2: I think it's definitely a double edged sword, you know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think like the kind of decline and death
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Speaker 3: of these big Australian festivals like Falls Splendor, Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 3: I couldn't give a fuck. I'm like, whatever I've played
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Speaker 3: at him, the fucking just got so corporate and so
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Speaker 3: sh and it's like, yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's the same thing.
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Speaker 3: It's like if all these things aren't happening, then people
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Speaker 3: are more likely to go out to like real venues
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Speaker 3: and real gigs, you know what I mean. It's not
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Speaker 3: just like buying a ticket to a festival to get
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Speaker 3: fucked up for the weekend.
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Speaker 2: You know, actually remember it.
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Speaker 1: You know, you might go next week and if like
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Speaker 1: a particular venue is doing things like that.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: One thing I love about Brisbane especially is like the
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Speaker 1: dive bars in the valley, Like that's that's where you
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Speaker 1: guys are playing now and it's so good to see.
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Speaker 2: It's awesome.
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Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, so I think it's definitely turn a
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Speaker 1: new page and turn a new leaf for a lot
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Speaker 1: of people. But it's always interesting to hear people how they,
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Speaker 1: you know, sit with it, because then you get a
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Speaker 1: lot of you know Ben too, maybe younger who are
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Speaker 1: like just doing it on the socials and the platforms,
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Speaker 1: and it's a totally different way again to getting succession.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, so how do you guys find you putting
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Speaker 1: your music out there? You come from the old school
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Speaker 1: into the new realm. What's it been like for yourself?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I mean, like, of course we have to
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Speaker 3: use the internet because it's just the way life is now.
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Speaker 3: But as far as everything else goes, like we record
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Speaker 3: all our own music, we produce it ourselves, we have
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Speaker 3: our own record label. We just do everything ourselves, you
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Speaker 3: know what I mean, Because like that old hard of
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Speaker 3: fucking getting signed to a label and all that shit,
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Speaker 3: it's like it's not fucking worth it anymore, you know
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Speaker 3: what I mean. It's like, what are you going to
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Speaker 3: get out of it? Yeah, they pay for your pressing
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Speaker 3: up front.
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Speaker 2: That's cool.
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Speaker 3: I'm not shitting on record labels, but just for a
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Speaker 3: band at our stage, it's like, we may as well
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Speaker 3: just pay for it ourselves, make one hundred per cent
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Speaker 3: money back ourselves, put it back into the band, and
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Speaker 3: just run it as our own business, you know what
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Speaker 3: I mean. And a lot of other bands that I
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Speaker 3: look up to, they do the same thing, you know
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Speaker 3: what I mean.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what you say.
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Speaker 1: The thing with labels like especially now, I mean before
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Speaker 1: like yeah, the independence, they had a place and you
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Speaker 1: know when it was done differently. But now unless they've
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Speaker 1: got you know, you sign on a label, and unless
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Speaker 1: you're getting signed, the into also management and promotion as well.
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Speaker 2: As part of whatever that may be. Like you say,
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Speaker 2: you may be going on theself because it's not.
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Speaker 1: It's just that just is literally just label and whenever
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Speaker 1: they pay you, you've got to pay back usually.
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Speaker 2: It's how those contracts usually.
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Speaker 3: And it's like they're a company too, Like they want
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Speaker 3: to make money, they're not doing They're not doing it because.
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Speaker 2: They like your band. Yeah, they feel like the love
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Speaker 2: of music.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're like, oh, we could sell this product
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Speaker 3: and make money. And that's fine. That's how the fucking
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Speaker 3: industry works. It's fucking capitalism. But yeah, you know, if
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Speaker 3: you do it yourself, it doesn't have to be capitalism.
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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
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Speaker 1: And even like right down to the match, Like I've
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Speaker 1: just come off the back of a couple of shows
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Speaker 1: with the Gross and Paul Courtesy, he's like everything hands
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Speaker 1: on himself. He's like at the merch stand doing it all,
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Speaker 1: putting it all, doing all the DeLine And that's how
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Speaker 1: these guys are still sustainable now. Yeah, being at the
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Speaker 1: top pretty much the whole way. And it's I think
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Speaker 1: there's a lot to be said about being you know,
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Speaker 1: it's a wholly independent as you can be and still
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Speaker 1: be able to make the music and have that that
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Speaker 1: touch and not lose that the side of the bigger
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Speaker 1: picture because it's you get lost, and it's a lot
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Speaker 1: of people like they want to eat you off in
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Speaker 1: contraction for.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I see a lot of bands. I
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Speaker 2: like it.
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Speaker 3: It's like a bigger trend is happening, more of everybody
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Speaker 3: doing their own ship, you know what I mean, Like absolutely, yeah,
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Speaker 3: punk rock and you know, hardcore on metal and whatever.
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Speaker 2: It's always been very di y, but yeah, it's kind
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Speaker 2: of the nave even more so now.
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Speaker 3: But it's not like you know that DIY label like tag,
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Speaker 3: but it's kind of like it's like we are doing
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Speaker 3: it ourselves, you know what I mean, because we believe
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Speaker 3: in it, and yeah, we've got nothing else to do,
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Speaker 3: so we have to.
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Speaker 2: That.
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Speaker 1: We've all got real jobs, you know. None of us
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Speaker 1: are like full die musicians. It's some I mean, I guess,
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Speaker 1: you know, there's a few. I've got friends who are
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Speaker 1: fortunate enough to do it. But I see like it's
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Speaker 1: a you know, again double edged sword, Like they're working
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Speaker 1: the books full time, you know, through Thursday through the Sunday,
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Speaker 1: doing gigs, but it's you know, the same stuff over
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Speaker 1: and over, and it's it's a hard slot, you know.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, you can earn a full time wage. Of
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Speaker 1: the payoff is no time for creativity, You no off time.
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Speaker 1: And it's some Yeah, it gets it has its has
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Speaker 1: its own upsid its downs for sure.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but come on, what you've got to work for
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Speaker 3: forty minutes a night playing a gig and then you
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Speaker 3: get to drink for free.
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Speaker 1: So it's pretty great there, iss like you get to
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Speaker 1: what sing and thing for a living and you know,
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Speaker 1: being beer rock star.
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Speaker 2: It's yeah, it definitely has its pose for sure.
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Speaker 1: It's I always say, is the most funny can have
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Speaker 1: be the close on so for sure.
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Speaker 2: So you guys are this is your third album? Is
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Speaker 2: it that you're putting just without third?
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Speaker 3: Second?
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Speaker 2: Second?
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Speaker 1: And you haven't done it for a little while, so
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Speaker 1: there's been a bit of a gap between the first
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Speaker 1: and now the second.
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Speaker 2: What's happened in between there? For you guys?
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Speaker 3: We kind of like just went on a break for
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Speaker 3: a couple of years. Yeah, I don't know. We got
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Speaker 3: into a bit of trouble ourselves with different substances and whatnot.
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Speaker 3: Fair enough, Yeah, but now we just you know, back
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Speaker 3: and it feels good and you know, this album just
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Speaker 3: came naturally. We have our own studio we're all playing
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Speaker 3: in other projects and doing all kinds of stuff like that. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and that happens play with each other and stuff like
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Speaker 3: in different bands. And yeah, it just came back naturally
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Speaker 3: and just read the record, made it and we're like,
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Speaker 3: fuck it, let's just do this full time again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's always encouraging when that happens organically like that.
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Speaker 1: There's no for sure, there's no pressure.
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Speaker 2: So that's nice. That's nice.
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Speaker 1: And how long did it take between you guys started
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Speaker 1: to come back and do it until the album came out?
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Speaker 3: Mmmm, maybe like a year and a half or something
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Speaker 3: like that.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, bit of time obviously. Like you said,
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Speaker 1: there's no pressure, no deadline. It was just come together
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Speaker 1: and come up May Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the rock like having our own studio, like because
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Speaker 3: team ma guitar player is a producer and the mixed
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Speaker 3: engineer and stuff like that.
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Speaker 2: So that helps so much, doesn't it?
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Speaker 3: It does, But also it's a blessing and a curse
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Speaker 3: because you have unlimited time, so it's like you can't
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Speaker 3: need to put yourself so true.
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Speaker 1: You're going to be able to walk away sometimes not
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Speaker 1: spend all night just going all right, I can make
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Speaker 1: it better. I make it better, and it's you know,
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Speaker 1: and the difference that anyone else might notice is so slight,
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Speaker 1: but you get.
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Speaker 2: Loss in your own work like that. Sometimes it's yeah,
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Speaker 2: you're gonna have that division.
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Speaker 1: So you guys come late together and like do you
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Speaker 1: play as a band as a whole or do you
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Speaker 1: do like, you know, each bit individually. Then he mixes
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Speaker 1: it and masters it and polishes that.
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Speaker 2: First record, we did it all live in this one.
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Speaker 3: We're like, we wanted it like a really tight, like yeah,
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Speaker 3: classic heavy metal sounding records, So we just did it all,
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Speaker 3: you know, tracked it all to clicks and just obsessed it.
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Speaker 1: Just produce completely different ways of you know, recording, which
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Speaker 1: is quite interesting for a musician as well. How it's
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Speaker 1: all done and come together and yeah, it's I don't
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Speaker 1: know if there is a better or words. I think,
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Speaker 1: you know, again, you can take as many takes as
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Speaker 1: you want, but if just doing it all you sort
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Speaker 1: of just get it smashed, it out done as it's
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Speaker 1: a bit.
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Speaker 2: More raw and or game.
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Speaker 1: It's yeah, both are good boats definitely have their place. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So yeah, what are you guitar and drums?
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Speaker 2: What do you? I played bass?
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Speaker 1: By I played bass and singing Caveral letters, so it
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Speaker 1: was always getting some bass players.
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Speaker 2: But we are the reason your girlfriend dances like for sure. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So so you said you've all been in other projects
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Speaker 1: before for yourself, well sort of have you been doing
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Speaker 1: other stuff as well as things.
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Speaker 2: Going with them?
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Speaker 1: Pretty cool name by the way, it's got its own
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Speaker 1: rhythm to it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like it's fubably like we're an instrumental band,
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Speaker 3: but like I play and sing in another band, and
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Speaker 3: so it's like we've been all sing but we just
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Speaker 3: choose not to do this.
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Speaker 2: You know, maybe maybe that's what you need.
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Speaker 1: It is that can be the next twist, the next
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Speaker 1: edge to it is get it, get a female out front,
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Speaker 1: because we just look good. It's lyrics over it makes
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Speaker 1: it straight up. But I guess it's good. You always
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Speaker 1: got that, you know, the options open. But instrumentals, yeah
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Speaker 1: there are. They're going hard, like I've seen a few
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Speaker 1: do their thing and it's certainly well received. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: so yeah, you've got obviously a strong following fan base.
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Speaker 1: How's that going for yourselves? You track that or you
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Speaker 1: just don't keep thinking of a ship?
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Speaker 2: No, I love it.
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Speaker 3: It's the best thing ever, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: come up to you after the show.
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Speaker 2: But if it's one person that was incredible, I'm like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: isn't that so true?
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Speaker 1: Like one person if they go, oh my god, it's amazing,
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Speaker 1: my job here is done.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And it's like people who say they don't give a funk.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, you wouldn't play in a band and
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Speaker 3: stay in your bedroom, you know what I mean, Like, oh,
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Speaker 3: we don't want to make it. We want to, don't.
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Speaker 3: You know, we all do having a little like.
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Speaker 1: Scatter rejection and that and and or just don't have
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Speaker 1: the commitment of the lazy.
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Speaker 2: They don't they're don't.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just says that they don't care as a
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Speaker 3: fucking liar, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: It's like absolutely, you.
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Speaker 1: Just don't want to get you know, potentially like yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, put shit on for it and have a critic,
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Speaker 1: but you.
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Speaker 3: Know exactly, you don't have to be a fucking egomaniac.
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Speaker 1: But you know, you know, you know, and there are
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Speaker 1: some critics out there that you know, bet are just
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Speaker 1: trolls and they're like just talk shit no matter what.
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Speaker 1: But there are some that their feedback it can be
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Speaker 1: you know, used. I think it's when you put yourself
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Speaker 1: out there, you've got to take the bad and you've
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Speaker 1: got to be open to that. People aren't going to
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Speaker 1: love everything that you do, but even if they don't,
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Speaker 1: it can be something that you can work on and
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Speaker 1: you know, take on.
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Speaker 2: Board for sure.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And like just getting validation is that's not
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Speaker 3: a bad thing. That's okay.
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Speaker 2: We all like that.
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Speaker 3: We're fucking human, you know what I mean? Well done,
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Speaker 3: that was great, It feels good. You're like cool, thank you, you
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Speaker 3: know what I mean? Absolutely, Anyone who says otherwise a
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Speaker 3: fucking while I.
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Speaker 1: Hardly agree to you guys always going on tour a
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Speaker 1: bit later this year.
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Speaker 2: What are your dates that we're about? So you're going
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Speaker 2: to be heading to.
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Speaker 3: We've got to launch in Melbourne on the fourth of April,
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Speaker 3: and then we're heading up to the Gold Coast to
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Speaker 3: play at MOS Yeah and then yeah nice and then
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Speaker 3: we played Lefties the next day again with Brazil.
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Speaker 2: Nice. Nice.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: We've got a bit more ship here.
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Speaker 3: We got like some festivals like Louly Palooza, Oh cool. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and then in a couple of months we'll be off
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Speaker 3: to Europe. For like two months, so.
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Speaker 2: Awesome, Yeah, excellent.
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Speaker 1: Is that the first time you guys have gone overseas
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Speaker 1: with it or you've done before.
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Speaker 3: We played it a handful of shows in the States
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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 2: How'd that go?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: It was really good. Awesome. Now this will be like our.
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Speaker 3: First proper tour of Europe, so yeah, we're pretty psyched
15:51
Speaker 3: about that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's pretty hardcore over there, like some of
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Speaker 1: the European countries and especially in Asia and Japan and
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Speaker 1: whatnot as well.
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Speaker 2: I mean they look it's a whole like lifestyle for
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Speaker 2: them minutes.
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Speaker 1: It's quite interesting to see, how you know, different bands
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Speaker 1: are in different countries over there.
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Speaker 2: That fair base is cute, it's actually, yeah, it'd be
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Speaker 2: cool indeed. Indeed.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, thank you so much for coming and having
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Speaker 1: chat with us today and Heavy and congratulations on your
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Speaker 1: second album, Brave Reading Ship, which are is a is
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Speaker 1: a piss take and a reflection of how things can be,
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Speaker 1: which it's always nicely so yeah, and as you said,
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Speaker 1: you're where you guys a little good tour later on?
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Speaker 2: Is it April May or uh April?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, so doing that and I will
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Speaker 1: more than likely see you at most it's my I
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Speaker 1: mean you usually get said better review as I said,
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Speaker 1: some great bands that have seen there, So it's pretty
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Speaker 1: good venue.
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Speaker 2: Actually, I love it. It's great. It's great sound, great vibe.
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Speaker 2: It's really cool.
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Speaker 1: It is it's it's nice. It's just like a big
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Speaker 1: garage of it now air condition and a new.
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Speaker 2: For So yeah that's amazing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, definitely they yeah, get a good crowd, so
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Speaker 1: so there and then Brazil and then off to Europe.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, congratulations.
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Speaker 3: Scattered throughout the year of course, so yes.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, as you do, and and hopefully ending ending
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six on a high end with more incentive
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Speaker 1: to make some more albums without the eight ear gap.
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Speaker 3: We've actually just booked in to record another album in
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Speaker 3: June at a different show.
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Speaker 2: Excellent, that's good. That's awesome. That's nice.
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Speaker 1: When you see that, you know it starts the kickstarts
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Speaker 1: at motivation and it just all happens.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it totally has. We've already got another one written,
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Speaker 3: so like mar let's go do that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent, that's so good. So good to hear. You
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Speaker 2: should have you should have a bit of a back
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Speaker 2: catalog after all, that time. Yeah, exactly. I've got a
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Speaker 2: couple of riffs awesome. We just need to maybe some vocals,