Latest / The Bad Moon's Orbit / Episode 21: Gloomspite Gitz (Part 1)
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- 0:36Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Bad Moons
- 0:39Orbit. I am, as always, your frazzle.
- 0:41Get Shaman Dalton Montgomery. And I'm Darian of Green Gables.
- 0:46Friends, dear listeners, it's time we're here.
- 0:52It's time we've made it. We've made it.
- 0:54Oh my gosh, where are? We it's very this is this is
- 0:57going to be episode where a lot of questions get answered for
- 1:00you and our listeners. But if you've seen the title of
- 1:02this episode, you already know where I'm going.
- 1:04Then you have exciting things to look forward to.
- 1:07Darian. Today we're going to talk about
- 1:10the bad moon. That's right, today's episode is
- 1:17about the bad moon, and by extension is about the people
- 1:20who worship it. Today's episode is about the
- 1:23Gloomspite gets I'm. So excited.
- 1:28If you can hear the exuberation of my voice, listeners A, it's
- 1:31because of excited to be recording and excited to be
- 1:35back. You're definitely hearing this
- 1:36after our hiatus, after we started recording and after our
- 1:39hiatus after the Belle core episode and whatnot.
- 1:41But also extra bonus tinge of excitement in my voice.
- 1:44Because, dear listeners, this is the army that I play.
- 1:48Dalton plays Gerblins and Orc Boys.
- 1:50Yeah, this is my main faction. I play a couple, but gets is
- 1:55where my heart lies and I'm very excited to talk about him today.
- 2:00Let's go. But before we do, before we do
- 2:02game stuff, Terry, do you have a a game thing that you would like
- 2:05to share? Yes, I've been listening to
- 2:07Worlds Beyond Number. Really good.
- 2:09Yeah. Dylan Hunter was right.
- 2:10I don't need to get into it. I knew he was going to be right.
- 2:13This is not news. But yeah, it's great and I love
- 2:16it and I recommend it. And yeah, that's all I just say
- 2:20on that. Hell yeah, you don't need to get
- 2:21into it. Nope, it's super duper good.
- 2:23We can't get into it. We won't be here all episode.
- 2:25So I love the fox. I'll also do a tabletop RPG one.
- 2:29I've been also on Dylan Hunter's recommendation.
- 2:32The sub theme of this episode is Dylan Hunter.
- 2:33The sub theme. Is Dylan Hunter is always right?
- 2:37I have been reading a tabletop RPG called The Trespasser which
- 2:42I have been enjoying quite a bit.
- 2:44It is in a like old school revivalist tradition that kind
- 2:49of like early DND. Like you're not epic heroes,
- 2:53you're not like out to save the world.
- 2:55You're just some person trying to get by with a little bit of
- 2:59like modern flair, some really interesting like character
- 3:02building stuff that I really enjoyed reading about, and a
- 3:06completely unhinged character creation process where you roll
- 3:11fully randomly for characters and then the first session is a
- 3:17like. And level 1 characters have no
- 3:20skills or abilities, they're level 1 commoners.
- 3:22So you roll completely randomly for level 1 commoners, three of
- 3:26whom are expected to die during the first session, and then you
- 3:30play the one who lives. OK.
- 3:33Yep, it's a it's a bad hard world out there, but it's
- 3:37fascinating. It's doing stuff that I haven't
- 3:39seen done so much successfully in tabletop RPG spaces, and I
- 3:43like it a lot. So shout out, shout out to
- 3:45Trespasser. It's a cool, cool system, but
- 3:50that's not the thing we're here to talk about today, and I am
- 3:52too excited to to spend any more time not talking about our
- 3:56little green boys. So what is what are?
- 4:00Well, let's let's start from the top.
- 4:02We're going to talk about goblins on the Grot in AOS
- 4:06terminology. It's it's one of those I like, I
- 4:08still hate it. No, you do.
- 4:10You like it because you just like the guys.
- 4:12No, I I think it's a good like you have a diminutive little
- 4:15like creepy little dude. He's a grot.
- 4:19I guess. I like it.
- 4:21No, you're not. I'm not trying to convince you
- 4:22you're incorrect. I just don't like any of them.
- 4:25Odds principle. That's fair.
- 4:27That's also completely fine. So we we talked about him a
- 4:31little bit in the GUR episode because goblin orcs are
- 4:35intrinsically linked. They're both children of
- 4:37Gorkamarka, the great green God of destruction.
- 4:40Whereas orcs represent Gork, his brutality traditionally, goblins
- 4:45represent his Canon. His little is brutally cunning
- 4:49and cunningly brutal are generally the aspects of
- 4:51Gorkamarka. I prefer the terminology used by
- 4:55the great green prophet of our time, Gordrack, that Gork wants
- 5:00to fight and Mork wants to win. Yeah, it's a good dichotomy.
- 5:06But as we're going to talk about in this episode, and also what
- 5:08we'll talk about when we eventually do the orc episode,
- 5:10that distinction has gotten squirrely in the time since orcs
- 5:13and goblins have split. That's right, they don't hang
- 5:16out. Yes, they.
- 5:17Don't hang out anymore. We have a couple theories, but
- 5:19no confirmation for why they don't hang out anymore.
- 5:22My favorite is that it was a fight over a particularly shiny
- 5:24spoon that got way out of hand. That's one of the proposed
- 5:28candidate. Yeah, feels right.
- 5:31What what are the more like grounded ones that seems to have
- 5:34some of the like any universe backing?
- 5:37Is the idea that Gorka Morka told orcs and goblins that they
- 5:39needed to split to learn to be self-sufficient without each
- 5:44other interesting to better fight chaos the next time it
- 5:48comes around is the idea. And I think we do see some
- 5:50evidence of that. Well, we'll get into it when
- 5:52we're talking about Got ones a little bit, but just note that,
- 5:54like baseline, it's orcs are brutal, Goblins are cunning, but
- 5:59that's gone squirrely. And that's interesting, I think.
- 6:02So goblins split off from orcs. They go without orcs to be kind
- 6:06of like their protectors, bodyguards, like the muscle
- 6:08behind them. They look to ways in which to,
- 6:11like, better protect themselves. Goblins are small.
- 6:14They're not particularly strong. Yeah.
- 6:16They're not particularly fast. Like they're just kind of
- 6:20they're just kind of little guys.
- 6:23And notably they're too small to generate wah.
- 6:28Yeah, Wah is the like supernatural force that orcs
- 6:31generate when they break stuff. Other creatures can generate wah
- 6:36if they're aligned with Corkamorca.
- 6:38We actually see it with giants a little bit because it does seem
- 6:43seem to be associated with size. Like I said, we have explicit in
- 6:46universe cultivation. The goblins are just too small
- 6:48to generate wah even in like mass numbers.
- 6:52And some giants are so big that they can generate all by
- 6:55themselves, which is terrifying. But so that leads them to
- 7:02basically like crawl into like the caves and kind of dark
- 7:06places of the world. We very quickly establish this
- 7:08paradigm where goblins live in caves, they live in tunnels.
- 7:12They kind of shy away from the natural world a little bit.
- 7:17And that leads to them, it's unclear if they, like, always
- 7:19had this or if they developed it.
- 7:21It leads to them developing this kind of like sunlight
- 7:24sensitivity over the generations through like the Age of Myth and
- 7:27into the Age of Sigmar, through the Age of Chaos.
- 7:31We get to the point where goblins are like, genuinely hurt
- 7:35if they go out in sunlight. Yeah.
- 7:37So sticking to night time, a lot of goblins flock to Olgu for
- 7:41that reason. Because it never gets properly
- 7:42daytime in OLGU. Yeah, and they avoid Hitch like
- 7:46the plague because it's literally always daytime.
- 7:48That would. Be bad for.
- 7:49Them. Yes, they're the.
- 7:51Opposite of light elves. Yes.
- 7:54So goblins eventually kind of split into these like subgroups
- 8:02that all have their different ways of coping with.
- 8:04Like orcs most directly like worship Gorkumarka.
- 8:08They keep to Gorkumarkas like quartets and principles and they
- 8:11venerate Gorkumarka like by name, whereas the rest of the
- 8:15people associated with Gorkumarka have kind of
- 8:16approached it through the middle Men like ogres are also like in
- 8:23worship of Gorkumarka, but ogres are cursed with that eternal
- 8:25hunger. So most of them worship
- 8:29Gorkumarka has such a bummer. Every time I think about that, I
- 8:32get pretty sacks. So many ogres worship
- 8:36Gorkamorcha as the aspect of the gulping God.
- 8:39Like someone who is so big that they can eat so much that even
- 8:42they could overcome that. Like endless hunger is the idea.
- 8:47Giants tend to worship Gorkamorcha.
- 8:50Gorkamorcha because I'm going to.
- 8:55Giants worship Gorkamorcha directly, but also like through
- 8:59Bayamont, his buddy. Yeah, because giants are all
- 9:03descendant of Baymont. They do not hold that Gork is
- 9:05brutal and Mark is cunning. They hold that Gork is stompy
- 9:09and Mark is kicky. Because giants interact with the
- 9:12world mostly through their feet, right?
- 9:14Like 1. 100%. One thing that's connecting.
- 9:17Goblins actually. They still venerate Gorka Marka,
- 9:22but they found a different God. There is another that more
- 9:26closely holds their interest, in part because it imparts to them
- 9:32some level of that like rightful thing that they feel they're
- 9:36denied with not being able to like, access the wall.
- 9:40Goblins, almost to a man, worship the bad moon.
- 9:45It is the. Goblins.
- 9:49It is the goblin God, but it is not like it's not a thing that
- 9:54they made. It is.
- 9:56Yeah, let's talk about the bad Yeah talk.
- 9:58About our podcast name, I don't know what it.
- 10:01Is the bad moon is a entity of chaos, not capital C chaos like
- 10:09like the realms of chaos, like it's not associated with the
- 10:12chaos God. It just does what it wants.
- 10:14And that's. Yeah.
- 10:15Yeah, it's not like chaos with the goal of utter entropy.
- 10:21It is. That's pretty chaotic.
- 10:23Yeah, it's the Joker. It's the Joker.
- 10:26Yeah, the Bad moon is literally a moon.
- 10:32It's a celestial body that moves throughout the realms.
- 10:34It follows no clear path. That's crazy.
- 10:37Yep, it just goes where it wants.
- 10:39Do we know why? Nope.
- 10:40Oh, I hate that. Like I say, it goes where it
- 10:44wants to. It doesn't have any clear
- 10:45pattern. It doesn't have any clear orbit.
- 10:48I would. I would worship it too, breaking
- 10:51all the rules of the celestial bodies.
- 10:53That's kind of the here's the here's the big throw off the
- 10:55cover of our podcast name. The Bad Moon's orbit is erratic
- 10:59and unpredictable. That's yeah.
- 11:02That's kind of our you mean. I'm allowed to get more on him.
- 11:05Yeah, our top, Our topic shifts, our conversations go on weird
- 11:08tangents. It's great.
- 11:11I love that, yes. So the bad moon just kind of
- 11:14shows up places and it, like I said, we know it's an immensely
- 11:18like powerful cosmic entity. It's just like.
- 11:21Is it alive? Yeah, it has intent it seems
- 11:24like. We just.
- 11:25Can't tell what it is. It has intent, but it doesn't
- 11:28seem to have goals. OK.
- 11:29So it's kind of does stuff. We say it's a moon, but it's not
- 11:31like a moon. It's a moon.
- 11:33It is literally a big rock. Yeah.
- 11:36Just flies through space. But it's alive, yes.
- 11:40Well, that makes it less weird that it just goes where it
- 11:42wants. Yeah, OK, well, we we kind of
- 11:44think it's life. There's there's theories, OK, we
- 11:47we some of this is like conflicting information because
- 11:50it's weird. Some of this is the like Grand
- 11:53Alliance destruction, which is all the people associated with
- 11:55Cork and work a special where we don't have first hand accounts.
- 11:58Like we don't all of our like stuff isn't written from the
- 12:02perspective of goblins. It's written from the
- 12:04perspective of like humans who study goblins.
- 12:06And so like it's all second hand.
- 12:09And so we don't have like a lot of clear answers.
- 12:10But as far as we can tell, the bad moon shows intent.
- 12:15It is in some way connected to Gorkamorcha, though we don't
- 12:17know for sure how, just that there's a big like cosmic event
- 12:22that occurred in lore that we'll talk about at some point called
- 12:25the Era of the Beast, which greatly empowered that's.
- 12:30Going to be fun, looking forward to that.
- 12:32Oh, yeah, greatly empowered, like all the wild places of the
- 12:35world, as well as, like, things associated with Cork Amorca.
- 12:37And it made the bad moon go extra erratic.
- 12:40So we know that it's like, either like, an aspect of the
- 12:43natural world or, yeah, like connected to Cork Amorca.
- 12:47But as far as we can tell, yeah, it just kind of does what it
- 12:50wants. And the main thing that like
- 12:53ties it to goblins for us and the ties goblins together into
- 12:58the kind of collective entity known as the Gloomspike gets is
- 13:03the effect it has on them and has on like other creatures in
- 13:06the realm. OK.
- 13:08So First off, where the bad moon goes, it is preceded by omens.
- 13:13Omens. OK.
- 13:16And those can be like, there's a sliding scale of benign to like
- 13:21abjectively terrifying. The Batman has a strong
- 13:24association with fungus. It is a strong association with
- 13:28insects and has a strong association with prophecy and
- 13:33so. Prophecy of its own arrival or
- 13:35like. Yes and no.
- 13:37Prophecy of lots of stuff. So we have examples of like
- 13:40places where the Batman is going to arrive having like sudden
- 13:43explosive outcroppings of fungus, like just a town or
- 13:47building on the edge of town just completely subsumed by like
- 13:51fungal gross in one. Night.
- 13:52No, I'm leaving. I'm moving.
- 13:54I'm just going to commit to that place I've been watching on this
- 13:56Willow. It's a good I'd rather live in
- 13:58the place where the trees want to eat.
- 13:59Yeah, you don't want to be there when the Batman arrives.
- 14:01Probably, if you're not a goblet.
- 14:03Oh, no insects getting And like I said, these, these vary in
- 14:07severity. Sometimes it's just like there
- 14:09happened to be more mushrooms around sometimes like that was
- 14:11talking about. One of the like, lower impact
- 14:15but more terrifying ones I think is that sometimes bugs just
- 14:20aren't scared of people anymore. Oh no.
- 14:22And so you just see like spiders moving around in daytime or like
- 14:27centipedes, like moving between houses, just like because
- 14:31they're not afraid of people. Yep, Yep, this is fine.
- 14:33Yep, the most. And this happens in a book, and
- 14:35it's the one that I always use to communicate to people how
- 14:38fucking weird the bad moon is. OK is in one of the books like
- 14:42in a town before it arrives, like about a week before it
- 14:45arrives, A calf like a baby cow is born.
- 14:49And when that calf is born, it has the face of a spider.
- 14:53And when they like lift it to look at it, that spider face
- 14:58looks them dead in the eye and in perfect deserted, which is
- 15:02our like common equivalent, tells them the day they're going
- 15:06to die just a perfect. Is it that day, that moment?
- 15:12Because I think for me, it'd be that moment.
- 15:14It's like in a month is the Yeah.
- 15:17Because the bad mood's going to show up.
- 15:19Or yeah, that's the implication. Yeah, but just spider faced cow
- 15:23baby going you'll die in 13 days and then immediately flourishing
- 15:28because it was only being sustained by like raw magic.
- 15:33But not like chaos magic but not capital K chaos magic.
- 15:37Correct. I said capital K on purpose.
- 15:40It was a jokey joke. It's all even.
- 15:44Profits across the realm. People who are already like
- 15:46attuned to like prophetic visions and stuff tend to be
- 15:49able to feel it coming for sure. Get out.
- 15:52OF feels like it wants people to know.
- 15:53So yeah. I mean, while the folks who are
- 15:55already on this grind didn't. Clock it 100%.
- 15:58So yeah, like I said, it's not malevolent per SE, it's just
- 16:02weird, like. I mean, yeah, weird is a word
- 16:06that you could use to describe this entity.
- 16:09It's like I said, it's broadly like we think it's broadly kind
- 16:12of a nature spirit, but it's it feels weird to call it advocate,
- 16:17but it is representative of those things that are
- 16:20irrefutably part of nature, but that are gross that people don't
- 16:26like we. Don't like the fungus or the
- 16:28balls? You look out on a field of corn
- 16:31and you're like, uh huh. Yeah, but you wouldn't get the
- 16:34same thing from lots of spiders. Right.
- 16:37No, no, I wouldn't. I would not.
- 16:43So that that's, that's kind of that's kind of the vibe.
- 16:45And then when the bad moon shows up, it's the horse.
- 16:48Sealed, covered in spider web. Now you like, you know when
- 16:51there's a lot of spiders? Yep.
- 16:52And suddenly everything looks like it's covered in snow.
- 16:54But it's not snow. It's spider web.
- 16:56Yep. That's what happened to the
- 16:56corn. Yeah.
- 16:58Probably. OK, go on.
- 17:00When the bad moon arrives, it generally gets worse.
- 17:03Oh really? It gets worse than spider headed
- 17:07calf telling you the day you'll die.
- 17:10Good outcome is just like the moon comes through it like stays
- 17:13for a bit and then it moves on That tends to like make fungal
- 17:17growths go pretty crazy. You do not if you are not a
- 17:20goblin or like any of the other creatures it affects positively.
- 17:24You do not want to stand under like bad moonlight because it
- 17:28will just make fungus grow on you and not like subtle fungus
- 17:33like you're not getting an infection.
- 17:34It's like full stemmed mushrooms growing out of your skin.
- 17:38Oh my God, because it's bad is that?
- 17:41Are those zombies from The Last of Us?
- 17:43A little. It doesn't like if if it if you
- 17:46get too many mushrooms, you just die.
- 17:48It doesn't like. Solify you.
- 17:50Yeah, cordyceptatize you. Yeah.
- 17:52Cordyceptatize Dalton with the words.
- 17:55Cordyceps is the mushroom, I'm pretty sure, so I made that word
- 17:58up. That's fine, that's the good
- 18:01ending. The bad ending when the bad moon
- 18:04shows up is that goblins in some way figured out it was coming.
- 18:09Oh shit. Because if they know, they're
- 18:11also going to show up. Yeah, yeah, makes sense.
- 18:14They do worship the thing. Yeah, they worship it.
- 18:17And let's talk about like, why it brings.
- 18:19All the goblins to the. All these goblins together,
- 18:21Yeah. So goblins are small, right?
- 18:26Yeah. How big is a goblin?
- 18:29Like how big is a goblin? 2:00-ish feet like.
- 18:32I said it's a little taller than my nephew.
- 18:34Yeah, he's like one. He's like 1 and some change.
- 18:36Yeah, they're little. I don't have a good like human
- 18:40model or I could compare them because everything's true to
- 18:42scale, which is neat. But yeah.
- 18:45And Sturm Caster bigger than humans.
- 18:46Or else we could use Guy Warhammer hanging.
- 18:49Out of that. But yeah, goblins are a little
- 18:52They've learned to like, hide in the dark places of the world.
- 18:55They don't like interacting with people.
- 18:56In a straight fight, one person could probably take like 3 or 4
- 18:59goblins. Like they're not good fighters
- 19:02and like all that is normally fine.
- 19:06What the bad moon does for goblins is just inspire them
- 19:09with like, unshakable confidence.
- 19:11It would be correct to use the word manic.
- 19:15When you're just kind of. Like a little obsessive.
- 19:18You're like jazzed to like do stuff.
- 19:22And so goblins for any number of reasons, like to be under bad
- 19:27moonlight, even if they don't have like hostile intent to.
- 19:32Be clear, there is usually hostile intent, but.
- 19:35Even if it's hostile on the level of like, like it's really
- 19:38hard for goblins to manufacture glass.
- 19:41There's a goblin character we know of named Braggart, and his
- 19:45thing is that he collects bottles during bad moon raids to
- 19:49sell to other goblins because they're not good at making them.
- 19:53And so when the bad moon shows up in a settlement, he just
- 19:55waits for other like goblins to attack it.
- 19:58And then he goes through all the fucking like breweries and like.
- 20:02Alchemy shots that. Takes all the glassware and
- 20:07that's extremely funny like. Just rolls up with his wagon.
- 20:12God that'd be such a fun weird niche.
- 20:16Little like cosplay. Yes, the glass goblin from
- 20:22Warhammer AOS. Braget bottle snatcher.
- 20:26Braget bottle snatcher. Excellent.
- 20:30He's a delight. But yeah, like sometimes goblins
- 20:32are there for metal again, hard to forge metal and they're like
- 20:36natural living environment. They live in deep, deep, dark
- 20:38caves. Sometimes they're just there
- 20:42because like they like the feeling that they get under the
- 20:46bad moon. Yeah, right.
- 20:47Like and they want to use that like confidence and that like
- 20:50listen, we. Just want to boost a confidence
- 20:52every now and. Then they just want to flex it
- 20:54you. Can't be mad at them about this.
- 20:56Sometimes it's like retributive right, like we talked before
- 21:00about Sigmar and like the reclamation of the realms, right
- 21:02how Azurian born humans are like spreading and across the realms
- 21:06to quote UN quote like reclaim them for Sigmar, not always
- 21:10cognizant of the fact that like. Someone was.
- 21:13Living here, some people already live here, like human and
- 21:15otherwise. And just sometimes it is just a
- 21:17straight up, like, there have been like, goblin clan tunnels
- 21:20underneath this place since the age of Chaos.
- 21:23And now you're like, plowing to do farm labor and stuff.
- 21:27And we're mad about it. Yeah.
- 21:28And like, jumping straight to murder probably isn't the like
- 21:32way to express that, but you know.
- 21:35Yeah. But listen, yeah, they're
- 21:37goblins, Yeah. Exactly.
- 21:40And so there's goblins are not the only thing that is affected
- 21:43by Batman. Like, they, like, they get
- 21:45manic, they get like hyped up by it.
- 21:48But there are other creatures who are like related to the bad
- 21:51moon in some way. And we're not sure what binds
- 21:54all of them. Some people think it's the
- 21:56goblins. Some people think it's that
- 21:58goblins start hanging out with these other groups.
- 22:00And so the bad moon, just like adopts them as well.
- 22:04The Bad moon has the face of a goblin on it.
- 22:07So it's like. Yeah, but only when some people
- 22:10look at it. The rest of the time it looks
- 22:11like a rock. So.
- 22:12And only if you look at certain ways, it's very much like man on
- 22:15the moon, like, or like the rabbit on the moon kind of
- 22:18thing. Yeah, See the.
- 22:19Man on the room but I can't see. The rat.
- 22:20I can see the rat. Yeah, same rabbit.
- 22:22Same. So how?
- 22:25Was it the man on the moon was definitely like a total
- 22:28expression, right? Right.
- 22:30I didn't realize that I actually until this moment that that was
- 22:33like a thing people could see. This is like learning.
- 22:37Oh, like being an ace person and learning when someone describes
- 22:39someone as hot, like that's not just like a really intense
- 22:43metaphor. We're not just.
- 22:43Being hyperbolic, right? Like crazy are.
- 22:46Y'all OK anyway. No, none of us but.
- 22:52So goblins, like I said, manic, excited, etcetera.
- 22:56Goblins are associated with squigs.
- 22:58Yeah, I like the squigs. I was going to say, Squigs are
- 23:00great. We have a, you have lots of
- 23:02selection of squigs here. Yes, Squigs are wonderful.
- 23:05Squigs are little toothy meatballs on legs.
- 23:08I love them when they're super small, but I would hate them in
- 23:10real life. Yeah, and they.
- 23:11Make me so mad. Yes they are just like little
- 23:15hyper aggressive like pug dogs like bipedal like.
- 23:20Oh we did. Just compared to pugs maybe.
- 23:22I like them slightly. Would they upset me as much as
- 23:24walking out to that cornfield and seeing it covered in spider
- 23:26web? No one squig would not upset me
- 23:31as much as walking outside to that cornfield and seeing it
- 23:33covered in spider web. 2 squig was just saying.
- 23:36But one squig, I would name it PIM, after my brother's beloved
- 23:40pug. And you could probably.
- 23:44So the thing about Squigs is they have a reproductive cycle
- 23:46measured in minutes. They're very like quibbles, is
- 23:50that? The I was gonna say they're
- 23:51like, they're like travels. Travels, yes, they're very kind
- 23:55of treble like in that way, except that rather than allowing
- 23:58it to like be this like Grey Goose scenario like horror
- 24:02thing, goblins have taken full utilization of that.
- 24:07Squigs do like we have no details on this, but squigs do
- 24:10reproduce sexually so you can selectively breed them is like
- 24:14the important part of that. They are like pugs.
- 24:16Yeah, and so we're going to extend the pug metaphor even
- 24:20further. Goblins have mastered the art
- 24:22of, like, selective breeding on Squigs, and they can make those
- 24:26genetics do completely insane garbage.
- 24:30You can. Hey, you know what Squigs don't
- 24:32have? Wings.
- 24:34You know what Godwins have bred? Squigs with wings.
- 24:38Yeah, that's crazy. We have bat squigs, We have
- 24:42Stalag squigs which are like ambush bread, so they look like
- 24:46Stalag tights. We have spore squigs who are
- 24:51bred to have these like. I'm back.
- 24:53I'm back fully on a squig string.
- 24:55I'm back fully on a squig string.
- 24:57It doesn't matter how many squids about what squig.
- 24:59None of a squig could upset me as much as that cornfield
- 25:01covered in spider webs. I was gonna say you could even
- 25:03probably breed like a squig that's just like less aggressive
- 25:07because squigs are like very I'm like.
- 25:09I mean, yeah, but like, I was thinking someone's invented
- 25:13like, purse squigs. Like here's your little tears,
- 25:19squig for the kids. I know goblins don't have kids,
- 25:21but squig for the kids. We have snuffle squigs, which
- 25:25are just squigs who have been bred to have a huge fucking nose
- 25:29on their forehead to sniff for like rare mushroom varieties.
- 25:34I was going to say. They sound like they look.
- 25:35They're truffle pigs. They're truffle.
- 25:36Pigs snuffle. Squigs.
- 25:39They're great. And then we're gonna talk about
- 25:41more. I have a section in my notes
- 25:42specifically about Squigs, but I'm gonna.
- 25:44Look up to see if I can get a squig plush.
- 25:46You keep talking. Certainly Squigs under moonlight
- 25:50get both faster and more reliable.
- 25:55It's really hard to like direct a squig basically.
- 26:00No, that makes sense. Goblins will try sometimes try
- 26:03and ride Squigs into battle, which kind of works, but Squigs
- 26:06just kind of do what they want most of the time.
- 26:08Under moonlight. They get a little bit more
- 26:10focused. You can.
- 26:11You can direct them a little bit better and they get faster on
- 26:14top of that. Nice.
- 26:16Yeah. So as Dalton said, yes, you can
- 26:17totally get Squig plush. I don't.
- 26:21The official one's not great. That's OK, that's what I'm
- 26:23saying. They're not great.
- 26:24I'm looking a biddling too far away from the mic to get closer
- 26:27to the the the the minis. But I'm looking at the minis
- 26:30that I can see and I mean, they're hideous, don't get me
- 26:34wrong, but they're also great. And I just feel like the plush
- 26:38of the Squig is not communicating how great they
- 26:41are. It also doesn't look and it also
- 26:45doesn't look squishy enough. What I what I realize what I'm
- 26:48wanting. I'm wanting a squishmallow
- 26:49squig. Yes, that would be delightful.
- 26:52So that's what the moon does to Squigs.
- 26:56Also, I'm about to mention now that this is going to be a long
- 27:00episode because goblins. That's goblins.
- 27:03They're my fave and they're great and there's a lot of them
- 27:06and there's a lot to say about them.
- 27:09So if you're listening to this part, there's the part where we
- 27:11are going to those in the know, we're going to talk about Moon
- 27:13Clan and Spider Fang, and then in the next episode I'm planning
- 27:18on talking about Trogoths and Gitmob.
- 27:21None of that means anything to you yet.
- 27:22No, I'm never the one in the no. But yeah, so we're going to,
- 27:26we're going to focus on that for this episode, but I'm going to
- 27:29mention all of the. So there's a bunch of different
- 27:32like groups within Gits and I'm going to touch on them briefly
- 27:37even though we won't cover some of them until next episode
- 27:40because I want to give you kind of a baseline.
- 27:42Like I said, Gets isn't like 1 collective group.
- 27:44It's not like there's like a big council telling them what to do.
- 27:47It's just the collective term for everybody that's like
- 27:49affected by the bad mood. Basically are big kind of like
- 27:52cultural paradigms within gets. This isn't the same as
- 27:55individual clans. These are like broad like
- 27:58categorizations that they fall under.
- 28:00OK, which will have like many different like individual clans
- 28:03within them. Nice.
- 28:04The first of these in the largest by far is the Moon clan.
- 28:06Of course. Yes, Moon clan are the original.
- 28:11As far as we can tell. They lurk in the tunnels below
- 28:14and they are wholly committed to the grand project of, like,
- 28:17predicting where the moon is going to go.
- 28:19Oh, OK. Like that's there again, like
- 28:21the reason why with the bad moon shows up, you're likely to get
- 28:25goblins like accompanying it is because the moon clan is putting
- 28:28in the work to like read the portents and like with a yes,
- 28:35try to figure out where it's going to arrive next so they can
- 28:37be there or they can tell other kids in the area who can then be
- 28:40there. I appreciate the the community
- 28:45element of like if I can't make it, I'll make sure someone else
- 28:47does this is we do not hoard this knowledge.
- 28:52Nice. Only if they can't get there.
- 28:53To be fair, most promotion within get society happens to be
- 28:58a dead men's shoes, and you usually filled those dead men's
- 29:01shoes with a dead man by stabbing him to death.
- 29:03Like, it's not a yeah, it's not a kind like paradigm.
- 29:06No, but. But they're all gits better than
- 29:10the yeah. Moon clan are the ones who are
- 29:13specialized in like breeding squigs.
- 29:15So basically all squigs come from the moon clan.
- 29:19Squigs also don't like sunlight particularly well.
- 29:20They breed best in like cave environment so that's what it
- 29:23does. One of the other big like
- 29:25cultural groups amongst goblins is the spider Fang clans.
- 29:31Spider flang are great because they they split off from moon
- 29:36clan some time ago. The original spider fan clan is
- 29:41in Shayish the realm of death and they decided to live above
- 29:49ground in these like super like shade covered forest so still
- 29:52protects them from sunlight. They want to live above ground
- 29:54they want a different like hunting environment and stuff.
- 29:59And they basically what that leads them to do is basically we
- 30:03don't know if by accident or on purpose set up their like whole
- 30:07clan on Nefarada, the first vampires front pawn.
- 30:14Is Nefarada aware that there are goblins?
- 30:17Oh yes, it's hard not to be Yeah, OK, so they they said up
- 30:21there Nef like sends people to try and drive them out, but
- 30:25there's just like a ton of goblins and like it's not worth
- 30:28the effort basically. And so they just kind of like
- 30:30have this weird like non militarized zone between vampire
- 30:36land and goblin land for a little bit.
- 30:39And then Nephrata makes at some point Nephrata, I think during
- 30:43the age of chaos makes like a big push to drive the spider
- 30:47Fang out. So it's a bunch of her Knights
- 30:49and stuff. The way the goblins tell it.
- 30:51So in the in the force where spider Fang live, there are just
- 30:54these like giant spiders, like they're just an endemic species.
- 30:58What does? Endemic mean.
- 30:59I think it means like native, but I'm not actually sure and I
- 31:05should have looked at that. Before, no, but it does sound.
- 31:07I mean, that sounds right. It just occurred to me in the
- 31:09moment it's like, oh, I'm actually not sure what that word
- 31:10means. Yeah, regularly occurring within
- 31:14an area or community. Cool, native and restricted to a
- 31:17certain place. OK.
- 31:18Yeah, absolutely. They live in that forest.
- 31:20They don't like to go out of that forest.
- 31:22These like giant spiders. Good.
- 31:25Yeah, Hey, I'm glad those giant spiders don't like to go out of
- 31:28that forest. Yeah.
- 31:30I'd be unhappy if those giant spiders put webs over my
- 31:33cornfields. And so the the goblins of the
- 31:37spider fan clans have already started to develop this kind of
- 31:40like, cultural worship of these spiders, or at least like
- 31:44appreciation. Like you don't fuck with the
- 31:45spiders. They don't fuck with you.
- 31:47Except they do, because they're spiders.
- 31:50Goblins get caught in giant spider webs.
- 31:52It's the whole thing. And so some goblins have already
- 31:56started talking about like they still Revere the bad moon.
- 31:59But also maybe there's this like great spider God who weaved all
- 32:05the realms together and maybe this is what the spider fan
- 32:09clans believe. Maybe the bad moon isn't a moon.
- 32:13Maybe it's a really big spider egg.
- 32:16Neat. What a cool sigh gang.
- 32:23And one day the spider fan clan say one day it'll hatch and
- 32:29drown all the realms and spiders is how they.
- 32:34What a neat night. Cool, y'all are super fun to
- 32:38hang out with. I'm happy I came to the moon
- 32:41party with you. So Nephrotis sends like a rating
- 32:45party to drive out of the goblins.
- 32:46And the way the goblins tell it is that in their darkest moment,
- 32:50right on the like edge of defeat, cracks opened in the
- 32:56fabric of reality. And like, we're already dealing
- 33:00with like giant spiders, building sized spiders started
- 33:06pouring out of these huge fissures in space-time and
- 33:10started killing vampires. That didn't happen.
- 33:14It did. The goblins say that happened.
- 33:18What do the vampires say happened?
- 33:20Here's the thing. Oh shit, because that happened.
- 33:23It's just wasn't like a blessing is the thing like the goblins.
- 33:28And that's that's the foundational text of the spider
- 33:30fan clans from their like their population exploded.
- 33:32We have spider fan clans in like all the different realms now who
- 33:35all trace back to the central myth of the great like a
- 33:39Rachnarok. It Arachnon rocks really good.
- 33:45I wear skitter strands which is what those breed of like giant
- 33:49spider are called. Came out of the space between
- 33:53realms where they lurk and save. Saved the original spider Fang
- 34:01clan from Nephrata. What actually happened is that
- 34:06Skitter strand arachnarocks are ambush predators.
- 34:12They are trapdoor spiders whose trapdoors they whose trapdoors
- 34:17they make in the fabric of reality.
- 34:19They live in the space between realms.
- 34:25And So what actually happened is that a rack and rock spiders
- 34:28felt this huge fight like in the the threads of webbing they have
- 34:34crisscrossed around the fabric of reality and they went, ah, an
- 34:39excellent opportunity to hunt. And they weren't wrong.
- 34:43But also, wait, hold on. Fighting happens all the time.
- 34:47Yeah, Like all the time. Yeah.
- 34:48Do these spiders just show up all the time?
- 34:50Yes. What the fuck?
- 34:54There's not like a ton a ton of them.
- 34:57Like this was weird that so many showed up all at once.
- 34:59Yes. OK, yeah.
- 35:00And it's probably because Realm of Death.
- 35:02It's probably because like already a spider inhabited area.
- 35:05And it's probably because goblin worship.
- 35:08It probably is in part because the goblins like drew them to
- 35:10them through their like. Yeah, I mean, they have thread
- 35:13webs through the threading of reality all over the place, so
- 35:16sure. Yeah, it is not uncommon in like
- 35:18totally unrelated battles for just like, you know, some big
- 35:23Eli font of war gets injured or whatever and just like it's crew
- 35:28like leaves it by the sideline to go rejoin the fight and then
- 35:31you come back and it's just gone because a spider just like
- 35:35grabbed it and pulled into the space between the realms.
- 35:40Also, our 40K reference for the episode is that the space
- 35:42between the realms is called the Web Way because spiders, which
- 35:46is also thinking 40K but it's unrelated.
- 35:50Well, all of these things just also exist in 40K, but
- 35:53different. No, the web way is like an
- 35:55entirely different thing. It's just.
- 35:56Like the spiders do live there, no?
- 35:58No, no, it's totally underlay. In 40K, the web way is the like
- 36:03system that like space elves set up to travel faster than light.
- 36:08It just happens to be called the web way.
- 36:10In AOS it's the web way because that's a joke about 40K.
- 36:14We went like, what do we call this space where the
- 36:16interdimensional spiders live? Ha, it's.
- 36:19It's also the web way because spider references.
- 36:22That makes more sense than the elves calling it the web way.
- 36:26Correct. I don't know enough Forti Kailar
- 36:27to say why. Not Forti Kailar I guess.
- 36:31So that's that's spider Fang. Here's the kicker.
- 36:35Arachnaroc spiders, which is just what they've like all
- 36:37varieties of like giant giant spiders have come to be called
- 36:40in the here and after, are sentient.
- 36:44They have names, thoughts, feelings.
- 36:45So they're like, they're just like guys.
- 36:47They're big spider guys, yes. They have.
- 36:50Could you befriend 1? Certainly they have an alien
- 36:52intelligence where they're very like food motivated, right?
- 36:56Well, so is my dog, so it's. True, but yeah.
- 37:00They want elephant, OK. Yeah, the Spider Fang clans do
- 37:04not just like, worship these giant spiders and like, review
- 37:08these giant spiders. They are in partnership with
- 37:10these giant spiders. They're in league with the giant
- 37:13spiders. Yes OK, spider Fang more than
- 37:16any other like git like subgroup are like well, that's not true
- 37:21because git mob also when we talk about them, they like have
- 37:24a thing going on with another group.
- 37:26My, my expectation is that they're trying to emulate in
- 37:29some way the relationship they had with orcs where it's like,
- 37:31here's a big guy and he's not as smart as I am, but we're buddies
- 37:36and he punches things that want to hurt me nice and now he's a
- 37:39big spider and then. And that's cool.
- 37:42It makes me sad that they don't have their original friends
- 37:44anymore. Right?
- 37:45OK, big Spider's pretty cool. Yeah.
- 37:47And so those are spider fingquins.
- 37:49Arachnarocks come into the world.
- 37:51Some of them choose to stay. They lose their ability to like
- 37:54slip back into the web way and they become like different
- 37:57varieties of Arachnarocks. That we've got.
- 37:59The ones that'll like carry a bunch of goblins into battle, we
- 38:02have ones that like learn how to, they can't cast magic.
- 38:07They just like don't have the capability.
- 38:09But we get ones who learn how to like augment magic, Like they
- 38:12can channel their own like kind of arcane potential into like
- 38:16the goblins who like you'll have ones that are literally just
- 38:20like a partnership with a goblin wizard and that goblin wizard
- 38:22just like standing on their head, like using their arcane
- 38:26reservoir to also like cast spells.
- 38:30I like that. Yeah, it's neat.
- 38:32It's kind of like I said, they're they're a little bit
- 38:34symbiotic. It's like sharks and those like
- 38:36fish that cling. To them in their scraps, yeah.
- 38:39And in much the same. Way like the birds and the
- 38:41crocodiles. Yeah, exactly.
- 38:42And in much the same way. Like you're a rack and rock
- 38:44spider goes in, hunts an Ole font or whatever and drags it
- 38:46back and the goblins get some and it's good.
- 38:48Nice. OK it.
- 38:49Works out for everybody. Works out for everybody.
- 38:52Git mob are our last like goblin focused like a cultural group.
- 38:57Again, like many clans exist within all these, but this is
- 38:59kind of the like last big tradition.
- 39:01Umbrella. Yeah, when I talked about like
- 39:05goblins are cunning as a baseline, but some have started
- 39:09to be like in the more like Gorkish tradition since the
- 39:13split, that's Git Mob, Git Mob said.
- 39:16Actually it sucks that the sun hurts us.
- 39:20We're going to try and not, we're just going to like
- 39:23exposure therapy ourselves away from being hurt by sunlight.
- 39:27OK. And it.
- 39:28Doesn't work. No.
- 39:30Because that's not how that works.
- 39:32No, but they're real obstinate about it.
- 39:35Yeah, that makes sense. The original git mob literally
- 39:39moved to hish SO. They would just be in.
- 39:41Light all the time. Babes, yeah.
- 39:45They're they're more active because they have to be like on
- 39:48the move. Hitch is where like a luminous
- 39:50live and it's tough out there. So they largely abandoned the
- 39:56like cave living for like a very nomadic like lifestyle.
- 40:00So they can stay a field of like luminous encampments and like
- 40:03search parties and stuff. And the really cool thing about
- 40:06Git Mob is that they formed a symbiotic relationship not with
- 40:10giant spiders, but with big sentient wolves.
- 40:15Fuck yes, big sentient wolves. Look go the wolves are called
- 40:21snarl fangs and they're weird, like they're sentient, varying
- 40:28intelligence. Some of them seem to be like
- 40:31really smart dog all the way up to like capable of speech.
- 40:34It just seems to vary quite a bit.
- 40:37But like also they're poisonous. I guess they're venomous like
- 40:41they they bite you. And OK, OK.
- 40:43Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes more sense.
- 40:46They're venomous, and since they started working with Gitmob, the
- 40:49moon effects them as well. That's the other thing.
- 40:52Spiders like the giant spider varieties that work with the
- 40:55spider Fang. Their poisons get more deadly
- 40:58when they're under moonlight. Bad moon augments the wolves
- 41:05like reaction time. It gives them a little bit of
- 41:08like speed force adjacency almost.
- 41:11Fucking wild. Gitmob are great, but we're
- 41:14going to talk about more in the next episode because they're a
- 41:15big group. I don't want to try and cram
- 41:16them and Moon Clan into the same one.
- 41:18And they're going to share scene time with my favorite subgroup
- 41:21who aren't goblins. Yeah, they are Trogoths.
- 41:28And they are. Trogoth is the AOS word for a
- 41:30troll. They're.
- 41:32Trolls. Yeah, I love trolls.
- 41:33Trolls are my favorite fantasy creature, bar none.
- 41:36I. Didn't know this about you.
- 41:37Oh yeah, I, I if. You had asked me.
- 41:39I would have been like, yeah, Dalton loves orcs.
- 41:40Also true it's very close but I don't know why but for some
- 41:47reason like the the consistent. Name rhymes with Terry
- 41:49Pratchett. I mean, yeah, but like, that's a
- 41:53big part of it. Now that I thought about it for
- 41:56more than 15 seconds, I was like, wait, yeah, hold on.
- 42:01Yeah, yeah, it's. Definitely.
- 42:04I forgot for a minute Sergeant detritus exist in the world of
- 42:08literary fiction. It's definitely partially Sir
- 42:10Pratchett. It's also, I don't know why I
- 42:13think my favorite like fantasy ability that's like consistent
- 42:18across basically all portrayals of trolls is the ability to
- 42:21regenerate. Like it's wild.
- 42:24Is it really interesting to me that a creature would just have
- 42:26that as like an innate thing about itself?
- 42:28I don't know why I think that's neat.
- 42:29That's also why I like Wolverine.
- 42:31But trolls are great. They are sentient, but they
- 42:35don't need it that much, if that makes sense.
- 42:38Like, yeah, like a troll is capable of thought.
- 42:41They're capable of learning. They just usually don't need to.
- 42:44And so they don't. Like there's not like a troll
- 42:47education system because like most of a troll's needs are met
- 42:50just by doing what they can do in the immediate here and now.
- 42:54I guess, yeah. I mean, why not Maslow's
- 42:56hierarchy of needs? Those needs are being met
- 42:58entirely hierarchy. Yes, caveat, caveat.
- 43:03Maybe we'll talk about it more when we talk about trolls.
- 43:06Yeah. But there is the potential that
- 43:11it's all an act, which is a theory that has come up multiple
- 43:15times across different source of material, which I think is very
- 43:19funny if true. But we have, we have no idea.
- 43:21So moving on. Trucks are weird.
- 43:23They're weird in like a bunch of delightful ways that we're going
- 43:27to talk about later. They're very strongly associated
- 43:30with Moon Clan because they're also like a subterranean
- 43:32species. I mean, so generally what
- 43:34happens is like, Moon Clan goblins will like, Burrow into
- 43:38like a troll cave and just be like, hey, we we think the
- 43:43moon's going to show up over here and the trolls and go with
- 43:46them. Yeah, sure, man.
- 43:48I guess we're. Here now, moonlight makes trolls
- 43:50skin get tougher. It just makes them harder to
- 43:52hurt. Yeah, which I bet they're.
- 43:54Already pretty. Hard to hurt, yes, extremely so.
- 43:57It's possible stab a troll, but it takes practice.
- 44:00Most people don't get to practice more than once.
- 44:04And then squigs. We already talked about squigs.
- 44:06Barely sapien, balls of teeth and violence.
- 44:10Fully symbiotic with moon clan. Grats, it's great.
- 44:15So those are like our big subgroups.
- 44:18Those are represented both in lore and in like miniatures.
- 44:21Like if you were to set out to build and play a gloomspike gets
- 44:25army, you would behoove you to pick like one or two of those
- 44:28groups and like build around those.
- 44:31So you might have like a mostly moon clan force with like squigs
- 44:34and maybe some trongs. You might have like spider Fang
- 44:37and git mobs. You have your I'm a goblin with
- 44:39an animal friend like cohorts. Yeah, what I'm leaning to
- 44:47because I'm spiders make me uncomfortable.
- 44:50That's fair. That's fair.
- 44:51And Gitmob are very neat. So I have in my notes some of
- 44:55the the like theories about what the bad moon is.
- 44:58We already talked about the spider Fang one.
- 45:00That's a big spider egg. So probably not that.
- 45:02Probably not that, but who knows.
- 45:04Like we don't have a clear answer.
- 45:07Some Moon Clan Wizards think it is a repository of goblin souls.
- 45:13They think specifically because we know that like goblins
- 45:15reincarnate, like orcs do, they go back to the great green.
- 45:18They think that getting to be part of the bad moon is a
- 45:21reward. And they attribute it's like
- 45:25erraticness to every goblin, that it's made-up of having
- 45:28their hand on the wheel. So.
- 45:31So if you just have a 10,000 goblins all trying to make
- 45:35decisions about this rock, then yeah, it's going to do crazy
- 45:39shit. And it would make sense like why
- 45:41some people can see a goblin face on it and why it like seems
- 45:45to gain affinity for things that goblins get close to.
- 45:49But like we don't know for sure. Some goblins just think it used
- 45:55to be a normal rock. And then Gorkamarka and his
- 45:58infinite wisdom tried to eat it, but it was too tough and it he
- 46:03chipped one of his teeth off and the embedded tooth made it go
- 46:08quote Roy proper weird. If you chip a tooth first thing,
- 46:14you want to do ibuprofen for the sensitivity of the pain.
- 46:18Tylenol is not going to work. If you can't get in the dentist
- 46:22right away, you can get some dental wax and cover the sharp
- 46:24parts. Or if it's really bothering you,
- 46:27clean and reboard new nail file, smooth it down.
- 46:29Just the jagged thing isn't catching in your lip or your
- 46:31tongue or anything like that. That's what you do if you chip
- 46:34your tooth. Perfect.
- 46:36I work at a dentist. Office, this is my show.
- 46:38Hey, it's good dental advice you won't get on any other podcast.
- 46:42You can take up to 800 milligrams every six hours all
- 46:46time with 1000 milligrams of Tylenol.
- 46:47If you start to have swelling on the outside of your face, you
- 46:49want to want to go to the ER. Also, it's important that
- 46:53everyone listening to this podcast right now be aware that
- 46:57all goblins talk with British accents and you shall be aware.
- 46:59That this is not medical advice. Yeah, yeah, it's.
- 47:03Just for fun, Darian parroting a thing she says at work every day
- 47:07as a joke for me. Wait, what did you say?
- 47:10All goblins speak in British accents.
- 47:13You work as a for fun Dalton bit.
- 47:17No, it's true they they tend a little bit towards cockney, but
- 47:21it's because orcs also speak in British accents because the.
- 47:25Orcs tend towards. Is it also cockney?
- 47:27A little bit because the the original, like Warhammer Fantasy
- 47:31Orcs were supposed to be parodies of football.
- 47:33Hooligans you did tell me about. This, yeah.
- 47:36Hooligans. Oh my God, I'm pretty sure I was
- 47:37shocked then too. Yeah, so that that's the, you're
- 47:40picturing like this big burly guy.
- 47:42And instead of basing him off of like other stereotypes you could
- 47:45reach for, they've done themselves a great service by
- 47:47instead having him be like, oh, here, Arsenal's going to do well
- 47:51this year. Let's go on down to the pub and
- 47:52get a point. What is that team from Pokémon
- 47:57Team Yell? Yell.
- 47:58Yeah, I think we've had this conversation about Team Yell.
- 48:01They are just team yell. And so goblins are a little bit
- 48:05they're a little bit weedier. I love all of the it's set in
- 48:08the old world, but they came Total War, like Warhammer
- 48:11Fantasy has great voice acting for all of its goblins.
- 48:15Just the a Goldman knife. There's a guy, there's a guy,
- 48:23one from the old world, who when you click on him to do
- 48:26diplomacy, if you're playing at orcs, he's like, it's always
- 48:29nice to see a fellow green around.
- 48:33All right, boys getting nice. They're great.
- 48:38I love them. We're talking a little bit about
- 48:41goblin psychology. We talked about like orc
- 48:43psychology before, like the physiological need to break
- 48:46things where they start to like wither.
- 48:48Goblins also get that a little bit.
- 48:49But again, they are an aspect of Gork's or of Gorkmark is
- 48:53cunning. And so they're more compelled to
- 48:58like plan. They they they don't feel the
- 49:02need to. Yeah, they don't feel the need
- 49:06to, like, break stuff in the same way that an orc does, but
- 49:09they love seeing like systems fall apart.
- 49:12They love like tearing down like structures and like making it so
- 49:17that things don't quite work properly.
- 49:19That's also part of why it makes it hard for like Grots to work
- 49:23with each other a little bit. And I said the thing earlier
- 49:26about like Grots advancing via dead men shoes and how like they
- 49:32do tend to be a little bit like murdery of the hierarchy.
- 49:37And that is an expression of that Like if anyone goblin gets
- 49:42too powerful, they're leading the clan too.
- 49:43Well that just get that like kind of under the hood, like
- 49:47need to kick over that sandcastle, right?
- 49:51Like we need to disrupt the system.
- 49:53And yeah, like an interesting, a beneficial upside to that is
- 49:57that maybe now I'm in charge. But basically what it results in
- 50:01is this like if orcs feel that like inherent like thrill of
- 50:07like it's fun to kick a sandcastle over.
- 50:09It's fun to facial Lego project and then just push it over and
- 50:11watch it go. All goblins are all playing Game
- 50:16of Thrones all the time. And most of them are bad at it.
- 50:19And that's that's the they're they're looking for that kind of
- 50:22base thrill that you get from like like when you successfully
- 50:27like trick a friend at a board game, right?
- 50:29Like you're in a framing where it's not like a genuinely
- 50:31harmful lie. You're just getting that little
- 50:33like, oh, like I out clevered you a little bit in this moment.
- 50:38And that's. Like playing like werewolf for.
- 50:40Mom Yeah, exactly. And that is the thing that,
- 50:43like, fuels their destructive sensibility in the same way that
- 50:48orcs. Yeah, like that or physically
- 50:50fulfilling it. And so that and again, further
- 50:53leads to like the instability of like goblin clans and stuff.
- 50:56There's very much this kind of unspoken implication that if all
- 50:59the goblins didn't have that, they would rule the world by
- 51:03now, because there's just like a bajillion of them and they.
- 51:06Are and. They seem very clever.
- 51:07Yeah, they're clever. They're very.
- 51:08Smart. Yeah.
- 51:09Up with bigger, scarier things? Very.
- 51:12Easily. They're just their own worst
- 51:14enemy and that they don't keep 2 stuff very well.
- 51:17They're not good. They don't want, they want the
- 51:20novelty of something new a little bit, and they want to get
- 51:24that by expressing their kind of expressing their trickery.
- 51:29Interesting. It's insidious, yeah.
- 51:31It's in cities Goblin. I understand there are no non
- 51:35human storm bringers but goblin storm bringer first.
- 51:38Storm cast God, thank you. Goblin Storm cast first death.
- 51:43Part of their soul that goes missing is that peace.
- 51:45Oh yeah, that'd be neat. Stop being so xenophobic, Sigma,
- 51:52Make it happen. As much as goblins love that
- 51:55little like rush of like, oh I gotcha when doing it to each
- 51:59other, they adore it doing it to anyone else.
- 52:03Yeah, that makes sense. Especially anyone bigger.
- 52:07Oh, I was going to say bigger dudes.
- 52:09That's. Super fun.
- 52:10Huge part of the. Component.
- 52:12Yeah, absolutely. You're twice my size and I
- 52:15tricked you. I got you.
- 52:17I won the day because I'm smarter than you are.
- 52:21Like, that's huge for goblin. They love doing it to humans.
- 52:25Even dwarves are bigger than goblins.
- 52:27And they also tend to be like, like subterranean competition.
- 52:31Yes. Even like a lot of them still
- 52:33hold like a Fanny for like, orcs.
- 52:36But there are lots. They're just like, now that
- 52:38we're split, I'm going to be kind of the like petty acts in
- 52:41this relationship. And I'm going to keep collapsing
- 52:45tunnels under your war camps because you're big and strong
- 52:48and dumb. And I'm going to no.
- 52:50Notes. Exploit that.
- 52:51We'll talk about more in the ORC episode, but the group that they
- 52:55tend to hate the most are the Morkier Orcs.
- 52:58They're like more cunning orcs, I'm sure.
- 53:01Yeah, they're a lot harder to get one over.
- 53:03On they're harder to get one over on and it's quote unfair
- 53:06that you can be both big and cunning.
- 53:09Oh. Little.
- 53:13Goblets. They can be cunning, but they
- 53:16can't be big. No.
- 53:18I'm so sad now. I have in mind I wrote this
- 53:24line. I'm going to use it as all this
- 53:27results in Grots having the loyalty of a particularly
- 53:30treacherous flute fruit fly. Like they, they just don't, like
- 53:33I said, they, they want to, they want to kick the sandcastle over
- 53:36socially, politically like that. You have to be a enormous
- 53:41personality to hold power in like a goblin clan for more than
- 53:45a week, right? Because basically you have to do
- 53:48the like the Lord veterinary thing where every single person
- 53:51knows that you not being in charge would be worse for them
- 53:55immediately. And there are a couple of those
- 53:57people. We're going to talk about them.
- 53:59Later, we've mentioned it twice this episode casually.
- 54:02Like, if you like this podcast, you'll love Discworld.
- 54:04Yes, start on guards. Guards.
- 54:06Yeah, I think that's a good. Start.
- 54:08Yes, for sure. So yeah, let's get a little bit
- 54:12into the specifics of the clan, please.
- 54:14We're going to start with Moon Clan.
- 54:15They're the biggest one. They're probably going to be the
- 54:17focus for this episode. We'll probably squeak in like
- 54:19Spider Fang at the end of this one.
- 54:21And the next episode will be Troggs and Gitmob.
- 54:24But yeah, Moon Clan, like said, de facto specialists and
- 54:27charting and predicting the Moon's path.
- 54:29Largest group out of all of them because they were the originals
- 54:33and they tend to be the default. Right?
- 54:35Like you're a youth, you just woke up, you are already in a
- 54:38cave. You wander a little bit out of
- 54:40that cave and you find a guy in a robe and he goes here's a
- 54:43shovel. Your own squig pen shoveling
- 54:46dude. Moon Clan are the only group
- 54:49that tames and race squigs specifically because squigs do
- 54:54not get along with snare, fangs or spiders.
- 54:56No, I can't imagine. They don't get along well with
- 54:58anything if we're being. I don't think the giant spiders
- 55:02or the giant wolves would put up with the toothy meatballs.
- 55:06Those are snacks. I'm going to hand you the the
- 55:11tray now so you can I can kind of point to and you can look at
- 55:14specific types of Squigs. So we have our all of our
- 55:18different types of squigs. Our default squig are just
- 55:20called cave squigs. They are squig, they are small,
- 55:23they are funny and they are full of violence.
- 55:26Yeah, they are the the little ones right there.
- 55:28There's like a red and a yellow one.
- 55:29They fan of these guys? Yep.
- 55:31They're just little guys. You can see a squig herder
- 55:35behind them there. He's like holding symbols, I
- 55:37want to say, or a bagpipe. Yeah.
- 55:39Yep. When very rarely do you like
- 55:42normal cave Squigs are like marched out to fight anything
- 55:46with the models being marched out to fight.
- 55:47So that's why they have models. But when they do, you can't like
- 55:52command a unit of squigs, right? So instead you just get a couple
- 55:56of goblins to like have loud implements and just like direct
- 56:00them by like making loud noises and making them like move in
- 56:04that direction. And then if they run into a
- 56:06group of people, they'll probably shred them because
- 56:07they're squigs. Yeah.
- 56:10The next ones are Squig hoppers. Hoppers are bred to be mounts,
- 56:17so that's the one with the guys riding them up front there.
- 56:20Blue and red. Yeah, lots.
- 56:22Of teeth. Yes, they're a little bit
- 56:25bigger, but they're also bred to be lighter and have longer legs
- 56:29for jumping. They got a hop.
- 56:31In addition to that, before they are like sent out to a fight
- 56:36they are fed mushrooms that specifically make them like
- 56:40really gassy. Is that what this?
- 56:43Is, yeah. But Squigs?
- 56:44Well, no. That's just like a dynamic pose.
- 56:47Smoke Squigs can't burp. They can't get rid of that gas
- 56:51in any way. And so they make them gassy.
- 56:55Well, they make them float because they they they goblins
- 57:01have perfected the equilibrium. You need to make a squig just
- 57:04floaty enough that if you put a goblin on their back they can
- 57:07jump really high and still come back down.
- 57:11Incredible. That doesn't mean that it's like
- 57:13the goblin gets knocked off that squig is just floating away, but
- 57:18yeah, but yeah, however without a rider will just float away.
- 57:25But they offer like goblins on untold like mobility, even if
- 57:30they're hard to control. They tend to bounce a little bit
- 57:32when they like land instead of landing.
- 57:35Nice. Squigs are inherently dangerous,
- 57:38even to goblins, and so people who ride squig hoppers are
- 57:43usually divided into two groups. Most are collectively referred
- 57:46to as hoppers. That's the guy on the taller one
- 57:49on the blue squig. Yep, that's just any goblin who
- 57:54has a who is like on the back of a squig is a hopper, A goblin
- 58:00who has experience riding a hopper and can actually like
- 58:03direct them pretty well. And it has like adopted like
- 58:07weapons more befitting like a like a cavalry also like lance's
- 58:11and stuff. They're called bounders and they
- 58:14are given better equipment. You can see that guy's a little
- 58:16bit more heavily armored. He's a little bit more
- 58:19experienced. The long stick, the default
- 58:22amount of experience to be promoted to a bounder, is
- 58:26surviving one outing riding a hopper.
- 58:28That makes sense. Yeah, I understand.
- 58:30Because most grots don't. They're bad, not this.
- 58:34Is not really meant you. You designed them for this, but
- 58:37not like designed them for this. Yes, we have Snufflers who we've
- 58:41already mentioned. That's the unpainted guy right
- 58:44there. He's got a snuffle squig.
- 58:45Awful mode. Yep, I said bread.
- 58:49Bread with like big noses on their foreheads to sniff out
- 58:52prime mushrooms. Mushrooms.
- 58:55On is. Bad Yeah, goblins are uniquely
- 58:57good at like culturing mushrooms and stuff, but even they aren't
- 59:01like they there's varieties that are harder to find and stuff and
- 59:04so snufflers help with that. They also get marshed out to
- 59:06battle sometimes to, like, find mushrooms on the battlefield
- 59:10because goblin's mastery of like mushroom stuff means that often
- 59:16times if they find like good mushrooms on the battlefield,
- 59:18they can just like, hand those out in the moment to help with
- 59:21the fight. Yeah, nice.
- 59:23We have bat Squig. So I don't have here because I
- 59:26couldn't find my my rabble rouser.
- 59:29He's the one with bat squigs. But hope he's OK.
- 59:32Yeah, he's fine. I'm sure he's just in that case
- 59:34somewhere. But yeah, they're just Squigs
- 59:36with bat wings. They flap used for scouting
- 59:39sometimes and also as projectiles.
- 59:42I just point him at a guy and they fly over and bite him.
- 59:45Spore squigs emit dangerous mushroom spores.
- 59:49They can also be bred to just like release like a constant
- 59:51cloud of spores to like cloak other goblins.
- 59:55The guy with a big mushroom on his head there has a spore squig
- 59:58on the bottom of his base. He's a little to the left of the
- 1:00:02yeah, just a little bitty spore squig on his base.
- 1:00:07Yeah, this is. The one I want.
- 1:00:09I bet that you they're the ones you squish and.
- 1:00:12This horoscope, you just go Yep. I like that they all have moon.
- 1:00:18Yeah, right. Like Crescent moon and their
- 1:00:21armor on their like Helms in their weaponry.
- 1:00:25The guy with the mushroom on his head, If you look he's got like
- 1:00:29a little metal chin attachment meant to make his head more moon
- 1:00:33shaped. That's incredible.
- 1:00:34Right. Listen, never say they aren't
- 1:00:37committed. It's.
- 1:00:39A scorpion tail too. Yeah, I don't know why.
- 1:00:42Yeah. It's aesthetic, yeah.
- 1:00:45Bug stuff. Going for a vibe?
- 1:00:47We have Nasha Squigs who are like squig hunting dogs.
- 1:00:51They're a little bit better trained.
- 1:00:52They're bred up a little bit more for loyalty.
- 1:00:54That's Yep, you're holding them right there.
- 1:00:56He's got him on the end of the little like hunting harness
- 1:00:58there, so he can kind of direct him a little bit.
- 1:01:04They are very territorial and so they don't breed like a lot of
- 1:01:07gnash of squigs. They're usually exclusively kept
- 1:01:10in the employee of like goblins who specialize in squig care.
- 1:01:15That's what that guy. Is hey good job way to take care
- 1:01:18of the squigs and then. We're going to get into the big
- 1:01:21varieties. We have giant cave Squigs.
- 1:01:24Here's a fun fact, Squigs never stop growing.
- 1:01:27Just forever. So they're all giant cave squigs
- 1:01:30if they live long enough. Yes, just most don't because
- 1:01:33they're violent and they're not above like cannibalizing each
- 1:01:36other so that yes, that's a giant cave squig.
- 1:01:39That's just what happens to a cave squig if it lives long
- 1:01:42enough and particularly nutty goblins will try and ride giant
- 1:01:47cave squigs. That's why you're looking out
- 1:01:49there, right? He's just mostly teeth and he's
- 1:01:55schmoven they. All have these little like
- 1:01:59tails, but when they get too big the tail doesn't keep growing
- 1:02:02with the. Rest No it doesn't.
- 1:02:03And that's incredible. Usually the kind of like goblin
- 1:02:07who will ride a giant cave. Squig is like promoting up from
- 1:02:10bounders. They're just either they're like
- 1:02:12preternaturally lucky or they're like really good at riding
- 1:02:15squigs. And so they're just moving up to
- 1:02:17the next rank and now they are like instructing other goblins
- 1:02:20on how to ride squigs. Incredible.
- 1:02:23And then our biggest variety, Mangler Square.
- 1:02:26Mangler is a great term, right? This monster.
- 1:02:30Yep, that's our two buddies there.
- 1:02:33That's one of my favorite models in the entire cave because
- 1:02:36fucking look at it. It is great, right?
- 1:02:41So dynamic. Right.
- 1:02:43Also, there are a total of 4 goblins.
- 1:02:45Yes, and one is definitely about to fly off.
- 1:02:47Yep, he looks like he's tubing. He's 12 years old, he's tubing
- 1:02:52with his brothers and their dad is really trying to whip them
- 1:02:55off. Manglers are what happened
- 1:02:57specifically when hoppers get too big, the like ones that they
- 1:03:01breed for writing, if you let the manglers will just go right,
- 1:03:07they'll just destroy everything. And so if manglers start to get
- 1:03:11too big, if squeeze gets to get too big for they become
- 1:03:13manglers, goblins will just chain two of them together, give
- 1:03:18them a slap on the button, point them at something because they
- 1:03:20will destroy everything in their path and they'll probably get
- 1:03:22worn out and die. And you can't keep them around
- 1:03:25because they will destroy the entire cave system.
- 1:03:27So. This is the only option really.
- 1:03:29Just let them go out doing what they love.
- 1:03:33Sometimes a particular, it's notable that the guy on like the
- 1:03:37giant cave squig is like, OK, you're really good at riding
- 1:03:39squigs. So we're like, you're going to
- 1:03:41keep moving up the hierarchy to where you're riding like a giant
- 1:03:44cave squig. People who ride manglers aren't
- 1:03:48that. People who ride manglers are
- 1:03:50crazy because it is an instant death sentence.
- 1:03:55Like that's not going to go well for you.
- 1:03:58But like, if you are a goblin and you're aware, yes, yeah.
- 1:04:03And sometimes that just happens. Sometimes they don't die
- 1:04:05immediately when they ride ride manglers.
- 1:04:09And they start earning A reputation for being good at
- 1:04:12riding, Manglers Squeaks. I don't think that reputation
- 1:04:14lasts for very long. No, but it is the kind of thing
- 1:04:17that gets you a big enough personality to attract
- 1:04:20followers. There it is.
- 1:04:21We're not. Going to talk about him because
- 1:04:23he doesn't have a model in like our famous spaces area, but I am
- 1:04:26going to mention here one such goblin.
- 1:04:30We don't know his real name, but he is referred to as the
- 1:04:33Overbounder. Yeah, and he has the explicit
- 1:04:37goal of jumping over the bad moon to take its powers.
- 1:04:42This is a very goblin goal. No notes.
- 1:04:46He is so successful riding Manglish because he did manage
- 1:04:49to attract like a like minded cohort.
- 1:04:51They are called the Jaws of MORC.
- 1:04:53That makes sense. All the people crazy enough to
- 1:04:56ride Squigs to his end goal of jumping over the bad moon.
- 1:05:01He has employed various tactics, including breeding bigger and
- 1:05:05bouncier squigs, riding blindfolded so the moon can't
- 1:05:08see him coming, sending out groups in front to try and
- 1:05:12wrangle it back towards him, singing really loud so I can't
- 1:05:17hear him coming. Yeah, notably, we don't know
- 1:05:21what he's doing now because the last we saw of him, he did like
- 1:05:26have his mangler squigs jump really high and then just no one
- 1:05:29saw him come back down. I was going.
- 1:05:31To you know what, that's I thought you were going to say,
- 1:05:33you know what? And last time we saw him, he was
- 1:05:34in the process of going over the moon.
- 1:05:36We don't know if he landed it though.
- 1:05:37We don't know. Basically said that.
- 1:05:39I mean, he might have. Yeah, he's crazy.
- 1:05:44That's our, that's Squigs. That's Squigs.
- 1:05:46There's a bunch of them. They're great.
- 1:05:47They're silly. Their thing in game is that they
- 1:05:49have a random movement characteristic.
- 1:05:52So like most units move. Like oh this can move 4 inches
- 1:05:55on his turn, Squigs can move. Is this bottle snatcher?
- 1:05:59No, no, he is. We're actually going to talk
- 1:06:02about him here in a minute. These have a similar bent
- 1:06:05though. Yeah, yeah, of course we're so I
- 1:06:08can bring it back to it. Actually here.
- 1:06:09I don't want the cat. To knock it.
- 1:06:11Down we're going to talk about Wizards.
- 1:06:13Moon Moon Clan Wizards specifically because they are
- 1:06:17one of the more magically gifted.
- 1:06:18It's really them and Spider Fang are like the magic ones.
- 1:06:21That feels right. Yeah.
- 1:06:22Yeah, that feels right. To me, and they're Moon Clan
- 1:06:27Wizards are wholly dedicated to like, the wrangling of the moon
- 1:06:30and like mushroom amancy because yes, yes, the wrangling of the
- 1:06:37dank. Many goblins state that their
- 1:06:41explicit goal is to usher in the Everdank situation in which the
- 1:06:44Bad Moon's light shines over everything and goblins can be in
- 1:06:48ascendant. And to that end, they do the
- 1:06:53things that they do so. We all want what's best for our
- 1:06:55communities. Yeah, we talked a little bit
- 1:06:58about like the kind of big personality you have to have to,
- 1:07:00like, successfully lead a group of goblins for any amount of
- 1:07:02time. Most Wizards are smarter than
- 1:07:05that, so they just don't. No, yeah, we don't have a lot of
- 1:07:09like, I don't think, wizard leaders.
- 1:07:11Get to be a wizard. It takes more time than it would
- 1:07:15you would get if you were, you know, in charge.
- 1:07:17Yes, many goblins start the path in the Moon Clan, specifically
- 1:07:22start the path to wizardly wizardry, because they are also
- 1:07:25like oracles of the Bad Moon. They can sense where it's going,
- 1:07:28they can hear its voice, and so they pursue magic to better
- 1:07:31interpreted signs. I could just mention that guy.
- 1:07:34That's just a normal goblin. I'm just really admiring his
- 1:07:36shield that looks like the moon and his little like hand scythe
- 1:07:41that is looks like the moon and the charm on his hat that looks
- 1:07:44like the moon. I just am admiring this little
- 1:07:47little guy. He's awful and I love him.
- 1:07:49Man's got an aesthetic. I like that everyone has
- 1:07:53committed no one. No one's showing up from the
- 1:07:56cosplay group chat in the wrong. Outfits, yes, in the grand
- 1:08:01scheme of things, like on a, on a ranking of Wizards, goblins on
- 1:08:05the whole are better at magic than like ogres or orcs or kind
- 1:08:08of their cohorts in like the Gorka Marker Club, but not as
- 1:08:11good as like elves, right? And part of that circumstance,
- 1:08:14like no goblin is spending a millennia mastering and like the
- 1:08:18weave of the arcane. They are learning back alley
- 1:08:21magic from a guy named Dave in a weekend, and then they're going
- 1:08:25to go use that to full someone's head full of mushrooms, right.
- 1:08:30In game that's reflected by like, you'll have armies that
- 1:08:33bring like one wizard and that's all they need.
- 1:08:35And that's like an elf army or like sometimes like storm cast
- 1:08:39armies will have a wizard and that's all they need.
- 1:08:42And usually goblin armies have like 12.
- 1:08:43Yeah. And none of them are good.
- 1:08:47No, but they all know something different than the others.
- 1:08:49Yes. Our baseline wizard doesn't have
- 1:08:53a model anymore, and I never got one before they went out of
- 1:08:56Commission, but I mentioned them anyways.
- 1:08:57Madcap shamans. That's just the baseline.
- 1:08:59Like, you know, some magic. You're a madcap shaman?
- 1:09:03Yeah. Fungoing cave shamans are the up
- 1:09:05step from that. That's our buddy with the fungus
- 1:09:07hat. Yeah, except it's not a hat.
- 1:09:11That's his head. Oh, that's just his head.
- 1:09:13That's good. Yep, fungoing cave shamans
- 1:09:15commune with the bad moon and they have reached the conclusion
- 1:09:19that they will get the strongest connection to it by like
- 1:09:22integrating fungus into themselves.
- 1:09:25I. Guess it's fair the moon shows
- 1:09:26up and it brings. Yeah, or it sends fungus ahead
- 1:09:29when it's going to go somewhere, so it's not a crazy connection.
- 1:09:33They got their mushroom antennas tuned to bad moon frequency and
- 1:09:37they're they're jiving, they're happy fungus screws up their
- 1:09:40bodies. That's why they have like that
- 1:09:42thing that's a scorpion tail is actually his like holding his
- 1:09:45spine in. Place, Yeah.
- 1:09:46It's a prosthetic. He's got the big walking stick
- 1:09:50and the bug on the end of it who helps him, like, move.
- 1:09:54And he's got the sports Quig to cover his advance because he's
- 1:09:57not very fast and he can't, like, get out of the way of
- 1:09:59stuff. Very good.
- 1:09:59But he's much better at Magic as a result.
- 1:10:02Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
- 1:10:06And then we have my favorite. This is going to be the group of
- 1:10:09five back there with the guy with the bottles.
- 1:10:12That is a Gabapalooza. Gabapalooza.
- 1:10:17And no, there's a lot of kids who found out that they were
- 1:10:20conceived of Gobapalooza. Oh no.
- 1:10:24So. Not goblin kids, obviously.
- 1:10:26No, certainly. But, well, actually, yeah, no,
- 1:10:30probably a lot of you've swerk you conceived at gob after
- 1:10:33Gobapalooza. Gobapalooza is a like naturally
- 1:10:40occurring kind of like social structure within like goblin
- 1:10:47society. It's weird.
- 1:10:49It's like if you took goblins and put them in isolation and
- 1:10:52like some of them learn magic they would naturally fill the
- 1:10:55roles that gobipalooza does. There's just something like
- 1:10:58baked into like goblin wizard brain that any yes every clan
- 1:11:03has at least one gobipalooza, big ones will have many, and any
- 1:11:07leader with their salt uses the Palooza as advisors because they
- 1:11:12represent all of the facets of goblin society.
- 1:11:15OK, that's why. Yeah, talking about them each
- 1:11:19individually. We have our fungomancer.
- 1:11:22That's the guy riding a mushroom.
- 1:11:24Yeah, just clock that this man was riding a mushroom.
- 1:11:26Yep, Fungomancer says the deepest connection to growth in
- 1:11:29spores. They can encourage certain
- 1:11:31species to take root and discourage others that only the
- 1:11:35most beneficial ones are filling the caverns well.
- 1:11:39There's a little mushroom boat down by this walking mushrooms,
- 1:11:42but that's cute. Yep, they have a completely
- 1:11:45encyclopedic knowledge of all the realms mushrooms.
- 1:11:47It seems to just get like beamed into their brain and they are
- 1:11:51fuck nuts crazy. Yes, they're they're jousting.
- 1:11:59They are completely fucking crazy.
- 1:12:02Something about knowing too much about mushrooms just like drives
- 1:12:06them off the wall. But a weird outcropping of that
- 1:12:09is that they are also pretty magically potent, and so they do
- 1:12:13just tend to hallucinate all of those little mushroom creatures
- 1:12:17around. Them those.
- 1:12:18Are the those are the living dreams of that mushroom answer
- 1:12:22or Shumaman answer? They're.
- 1:12:24Not real, but they are real. They are real, like they they
- 1:12:27will. He's making them.
- 1:12:29Real. Yes.
- 1:12:29Yeah. If he dies, they disappear.
- 1:12:31But like, if you get too close, they will jab you because
- 1:12:33they're real in that sense. But he has no control over,
- 1:12:36like, them existing or like they're just manifesting.
- 1:12:39It's just his hallucination. Yeah.
- 1:12:42They're the dreams of a goblin obsessed with fungi.
- 1:12:46Of a fungi addled mind. Yes, OK.
- 1:12:49And so, yeah, they again cannot like he could not like walk into
- 1:12:53battle if he tried. He's just like too whacked out
- 1:12:55of it. So they usually, yeah, manifest
- 1:12:58those big like stock shrooms is what that's called.
- 1:13:01Stock Shroom. Yeah, he's stalking.
- 1:13:03I mean, no, no, no, I I did. Yes, yes.
- 1:13:08I was just sad to hear it out loud.
- 1:13:13Not marching, stalking and stalking is the worst verb of
- 1:13:17mushroom could be. True, we have our.
- 1:13:20Chasing actually would be a. Worse.
- 1:13:21Chase Shroom? Yeah.
- 1:13:22No, this room is stalking. That's upsetting.
- 1:13:25This room is chasing. That's worse.
- 1:13:28Yep. We have our two halves of Goblin
- 1:13:32Alchemy, OK Spiker and Brew Git. OK, Spiker has all the bottles
- 1:13:36on his back. Ohh I wasn't expecting.
- 1:13:38That yeah, and brew git is the one with the big like
- 1:13:41contraption strapped to like a tree branch.
- 1:13:44Ohh that makes sense. It's got like a cauldron that's.
- 1:13:46Brewing. Yeah, he's got a, he's got a
- 1:13:48boiler on his head. I do see that, which is very
- 1:13:51funny. He's got coals in it.
- 1:13:52They're. All crazy.
- 1:13:53Yep. It is unclear if this was always
- 1:13:55the case or if it was like a later development, but at some
- 1:13:57point goblins made the very wise decision to split like the
- 1:14:00branches of goblin alchemy into good for goblins and bad for
- 1:14:04goblins. So Brugit handles potions and
- 1:14:07like things that you want to drink if you're a goblin, and
- 1:14:09Spiker handles poisons. That's very smart for goblins to
- 1:14:14do. That.
- 1:14:14Specialties. Yeah, don't.
- 1:14:16Don't grab that bottle and drink it.
- 1:14:18Spikers carry. So spikers tend to test their
- 1:14:23poisons on themselves and undergo experimentations to make
- 1:14:27themselves hardier to their effects.
- 1:14:30So that's why that guy's a little bit spidery.
- 1:14:32He has a little too many limbs. Yeah, he does have.
- 1:14:36A little, but yeah, so they they happily like they they're a
- 1:14:40little bit like crossover with like spider Fang stuff because
- 1:14:43poison. But they are like technically
- 1:14:46considered like part of the moon clans.
- 1:14:48But yeah like I said, experimentation on self growing
- 1:14:50some extra limbs makes your potion work easier.
- 1:14:53Easy as that. Sure.
- 1:14:54Sure, sure, sure, sure. OK.
- 1:14:56Brew gits are constantly whipping up potions for their
- 1:14:59fellow grass to try their instrumental in like a couple of
- 1:15:02different facets of like moon clan warfare.
- 1:15:06Everything from strength to bravery to like making people
- 1:15:11explode all fall under like brew git.
- 1:15:14Their most sacred duty, though, is preparing hallucinogenic
- 1:15:17fungus brew which. I think that guy's already got
- 1:15:22it. Yeah, yeah, is something that
- 1:15:25when Palooza need to like appear on a battlefield for like
- 1:15:29wizardry stuff or to like help the troops with like potions or
- 1:15:32whatever, they will douse themselves in hallucinogenic
- 1:15:35fungus brew beforehand which gets them so fucked up.
- 1:15:39It like in nerds them to physical harm.
- 1:15:43Mechanically, how it works in game is that the first turn of a
- 1:15:46battle Galapalooza have a 50% chance to completely negate
- 1:15:49damage. Second turn of a battle, that's
- 1:15:51down to like a 60%. Third turn it's down to like an
- 1:15:5418% and then it's gone because that wears off over the course
- 1:15:58of the battle. That makes sense.
- 1:16:00Yeah. The guy standing on top of a
- 1:16:02squig skull with the big sun mask is a scaremonger.
- 1:16:07They're oral storytellers and motivators.
- 1:16:11I love that. Yeah.
- 1:16:13No, I'm a big fan of the Scaremonger.
- 1:16:15Yeah, And I love his little outfit.
- 1:16:18He's got the mass and the bells and it's got his like buddy
- 1:16:22running like spooky ambiance with the skull running
- 1:16:25underneath him. Wow, I really like this.
- 1:16:27One, you can picture the guy care in the skull, like doing a
- 1:16:30little dance and like the scaremongers like striking
- 1:16:32dramatic poses on top of the skull, right?
- 1:16:35It's great. Like I said, scaremongers
- 1:16:38recount all the tales of like goblin society.
- 1:16:41They're called scaremongers because most of them are about
- 1:16:42how everything's bad and it's hard for a goblin.
- 1:16:46But their most like ancient and important story is the tale of
- 1:16:51Glare Face Frazzle git Goblin's ancient enemy the Sun, who they
- 1:16:57call Glare Face Frazzle the. Sun Yeah, that makes sense.
- 1:17:02That does make sense. Their big one is usually like an
- 1:17:06origin story for squigs, like this tale of why squigs and
- 1:17:10goblins hang out. They say there was one, an
- 1:17:13ancient God beast named Boyngob, who found Hisch's light so
- 1:17:18aggravating, the attempt to leap at and destroy it, only to be
- 1:17:23charred to ash by its heat and light, his skull crashing into
- 1:17:27the ground. And so the skull, the squig
- 1:17:30skull that he rides, is meant to be like Effigy of Boyngob.
- 1:17:35Yeah. And so, yeah, that's why they're
- 1:17:38carried around on Squigg skulls. That's meant to be the origin of
- 1:17:41like. And so Squigs were forever,
- 1:17:43like, allied with goblins who could find cunning ways around,
- 1:17:47like, to bring down our ancient enemy, the sun.
- 1:17:50It's great. Finally, we got Bagalai.
- 1:17:54That's the guy with the staff, like, spitting smoke up there in
- 1:17:57the real big eyes. Yeah.
- 1:17:59A real big. Eye and.
- 1:18:02Just so real unhappy looking little dude.
- 1:18:05Yep, it's because he's hypnotized.
- 1:18:06There's two unhappy looking little dudes.
- 1:18:08Are they both hypnotized? Yes.
- 1:18:10Damn, Boggles are masters of suggestion.
- 1:18:13If Scaremonger is meant to be like motivating and like oral
- 1:18:17tradition, Boggle is the harsher side of control.
- 1:18:22Bagalize learned magic and psychological trickery to
- 1:18:24mesmerize goblins and non goblins alike.
- 1:18:27Many clans are led by bosses who are secretly mesmerized by their
- 1:18:32bagalai. Of course, of course no one
- 1:18:35knows it. Or they do know it and they
- 1:18:36don't care 'cause yeah, I'm. Just going about their day as
- 1:18:40long as they get to try to dismantle some sort of like
- 1:18:42societal construct. Yeah, there's one of the books
- 1:18:46about goblins that I quite like. The main character, like, makes
- 1:18:50a point of mentioning every time he's meeting with his palooza
- 1:18:53that he has to keep just, like, avoiding the gaze of his, like,
- 1:18:57Boggle like as he tries to just like, hey, boss, look over here.
- 1:19:03You want, you want to look at me while I was Tucker, you see?
- 1:19:05That look at me, I'm on a horse. But yeah, that's Gabapalooza.
- 1:19:13Like I said, any every clan has at least one.
- 1:19:15They just kind of naturally form as like goblins learn magic I
- 1:19:18think. That's so.
- 1:19:19Interesting and really like that is like a.
- 1:19:22World building cultural lore component.
- 1:19:24Yes. And then yeah, like big, big
- 1:19:26clans will have lots and lots. Yeah, the big biggest single
- 1:19:30clan we'll talk about a little bit later is 1.
- 1:19:33We're talking about our famous faces is the King's Gits.
- 1:19:38They operate out of scrap, a spill which is a big like old
- 1:19:43caradron like scrap yard basically.
- 1:19:46And they have hundreds of paloozas because it's just like
- 1:19:48a massive, massive complex of yeah gets.
- 1:19:52We'll talk about like non wizard moon clan real quick.
- 1:19:55I'm going to speed through these a little bit because they're
- 1:19:57just all kind of variations on a theme.
- 1:20:00Non wizard goblins tend to take on boss as an honorific.
- 1:20:05So we have loon bosses. That's our man standing on a
- 1:20:08mushroom with the big sickle up front.
- 1:20:11Yeah, there. He is.
- 1:20:13He's a loon boss. Oh, I really.
- 1:20:15I've been admiring his helm. Yeah, the helmet is very good.
- 1:20:19It's a total moon. Hell yeah.
- 1:20:21It's neat. Loon bosses.
- 1:20:25It's just any goblin who's tough enough, bossy enough, cunning
- 1:20:28enough for all of the above to command some amount of control.
- 1:20:31They don't tend to live very long because they're not usually
- 1:20:35like big enough personalities to prevent themselves getting OFT,
- 1:20:42but ones who want to dissuade betrayal or just like make a
- 1:20:45bigger name for themselves. That's so how you eventually end
- 1:20:47up with ones like riding squigs. The guy on The Cave squig is
- 1:20:50also a loon boss. He's just a loon boss riding a
- 1:20:53giant cave squig. And then you get him riding
- 1:20:56manglers for the same reason as well.
- 1:20:57Sometimes squig bosses are a bit weird.
- 1:21:01That's our buddy with the like Nasha Squig down there.
- 1:21:05Squig bosses also like squig bosses are the like weird bug
- 1:21:11kid of like goblins. Basically.
- 1:21:14Like goblins all appreciate squigs, but like you have to be
- 1:21:18weird to like like squigs as a goblin.
- 1:21:21Is kind of. Yeah, it's kind of the idea, but
- 1:21:24Squig bosses are like, no, Squigs are great and I'm going
- 1:21:27to show you all, I'm going to learn all of their like habits
- 1:21:30and weird mannerisms and I'm going to be real into them.
- 1:21:32Tell you all about Squigs every opportunity.
- 1:21:35Yes, Squig bosses learn all the mushrooms that like uniquely
- 1:21:38affect squigs and they carry them in like big pouches into
- 1:21:41battle. And so they'll just like run out
- 1:21:43in front of a like herd of squigs and toss out like a bunch
- 1:21:46of Crimson death caps or yellow lurkers or any of these like
- 1:21:50mushroom varieties. And when the squigs eat those,
- 1:21:52suddenly they're teeth are poisonous or they're they can
- 1:21:57run extra fast or like any number of like weird things.
- 1:22:01Like yeah, like I said, I couldn't find him before
- 1:22:04recording this, but rabble rouses are non Wizards, non
- 1:22:09bosses. Like they don't look for like
- 1:22:11leadership in the clan. They decided that their best way
- 1:22:15to stay alive is just to be helpful and non leadership waves
- 1:22:20and to yeah. And to that end, their strategy
- 1:22:22for commanding respect is to learn the settle art of
- 1:22:25directing monsters who accompany gets to war.
- 1:22:27So they are like monster wranglers, except instead of
- 1:22:31being like caretakers and like learning the insurance and outs
- 1:22:36and stuff, they mostly learn the settle art of taunting them
- 1:22:39mercilessly and then running away.
- 1:22:41You know what? That works.
- 1:22:44Too. That works too.
- 1:22:45That's why they called rabble rouses.
- 1:22:47That makes sense. It's they're good and then one
- 1:22:50last moon clan unit we're going to talk about who is very goblin
- 1:22:54Y it's that man with the ball and chain there.
- 1:22:57Yep, Yep, he's been coming with the.
- 1:23:00Ball and chain here. That is a fanatic.
- 1:23:05Imagine you're a goblin. Done.
- 1:23:07Just Yeah, you're corn. Filled with mushrooms.
- 1:23:11Yeah, you're small. You, I don't have any particular
- 1:23:16prospects. You have lived around other
- 1:23:20goblins all your life. You know, the life for a goblin
- 1:23:22can be British and short enough and there's not a lot of like,
- 1:23:26accomplishment in it. Got to marry well.
- 1:23:29I have very few prospects, but I have sorry, that's I've never
- 1:23:32used it. I have few prospects, but I have
- 1:23:33to marry well. My family's relying on me.
- 1:23:37I am the Elvis. This is my responsibility.
- 1:23:42I'll bring my sisters into society.
- 1:23:44OK? I'm done.
- 1:23:45I'm done. Tell me about this goblin with
- 1:23:46this great fucking spiky ball. Right so you you're just living
- 1:23:51your goblin life. You're down in the tunnels.
- 1:23:52Maybe you collected some cool mushrooms today and the brew get
- 1:23:57comes to you with a proposition. He says hey shaman says the bad
- 1:24:02moon's coming. We're going to make a move on
- 1:24:05like this settlement up a river, and I want to offer you the deal
- 1:24:11of a lifetime. You're small, you're weak.
- 1:24:15You could March out there with the other goblin masses, maybe
- 1:24:18get a good trick over on some humans and really like feel
- 1:24:23alive for a minute or two lost in the crowd.
- 1:24:28Or I can give you the fucking craziest concoction we have and
- 1:24:35make you feel like a bomb going off for that fight.
- 1:24:40Like I can make you Superman, but just for a little while.
- 1:24:48Is it better to live the life of quiet contemplation, fellow
- 1:24:53Grot, or do you want to be a hero?
- 1:24:58Long and silent are burn bright and fast.
- 1:25:01Come on, Goblin Achille, please take the bargain, Yeah.
- 1:25:05On the same page with Goblin Achilles.
- 1:25:09So goblins who take the deal get labeled fanatics because you'd
- 1:25:12have to be crazy. They get loaded up.
- 1:25:15Often take the deal. Not super often brew Brewster.
- 1:25:20Brugit, Brugit, thank you. Did you just go down the line
- 1:25:23and be like you won't make a deal?
- 1:25:25More or less Palooza tend to be tapped into the kind of like
- 1:25:29social realities of the clan. So maybe he picks out someone
- 1:25:32who's like, not feeling great about, like, their
- 1:25:34contributions, or he can tell us like, we'll take a deal of like,
- 1:25:38burn bright with me in this moment.
- 1:25:40Like. But basically you load a fanatic
- 1:25:44up on. I mean, it's meth.
- 1:25:47It's goblin meth. Yeah.
- 1:25:49Just makes them crazy and, like, violent and remarkably strong.
- 1:25:54That weight is probably 50 lbs, which is completely insane for
- 1:25:58like a human being a little out of goblin and they.
- 1:26:04Really good motion and it's got like the way it's like his body
- 1:26:09and hips are turning and 1 foot is like lower or back behind the
- 1:26:13foot that's actually in the air because it's following the
- 1:26:15momentum. Like this is a really, really
- 1:26:17good sculpt. It's one of the best kids.
- 1:26:19They come in a group of five and all of them are doing a
- 1:26:21different pose that's like, there's one who's like on his
- 1:26:23very tippy toes and you can tell he just barely has his finger
- 1:26:26still on his flail and he's like getting away from him.
- 1:26:29But yeah, like, they, they load you up with goblin meth.
- 1:26:32It has an immediate effect. So they immediately, like, tie
- 1:26:35you to a plank and they have like the rest of the foot
- 1:26:40goblins, like carry your plank into battle.
- 1:26:43And then when the time is right, they like cut you loose and give
- 1:26:47you a strong push toward the enemy and you mulch them, you
- 1:26:52turn you turn them into goo with your big flail.
- 1:26:55And you feel more alive than any goblin has ever felt because you
- 1:27:00are taking down people three times your size.
- 1:27:03And it's all through your own power.
- 1:27:04It's not trying kind of in cunning or trickery.
- 1:27:07It's just you. Yeah, I can see the appeal for
- 1:27:09that for the little goblin guys, right?
- 1:27:11Without any prospects, no balls to go to.
- 1:27:14Right, None. Everyone's already, Everyone's
- 1:27:19hand is already taken. The season is over.
- 1:27:23Yep, and you've got no offers. I'm going to talk about Spider
- 1:27:29Fang real quick just to wrap the episode.
- 1:27:31Spider Fang I. Don't have their models with me
- 1:27:32because if I'm being real, they're either old or huge.
- 1:27:36You've seen my Skitter. Strand, you do, in fact, have a
- 1:27:39spider that lives in the house now.
- 1:27:40Yeah, Yeah. And I like its colors.
- 1:27:43Yeah. I'm also a little upset about
- 1:27:46it. That's my Skitter strand.
- 1:27:48He real big because Arachnarocks are real big.
- 1:27:53Like I said, lived on Nephrata's front yard, all the different
- 1:27:59Skitter strands. They still live on Nephrata.
- 1:28:01'S front yard Nephrata now treats them like scary dog
- 1:28:04privilege where they just like maybe Canaries like a better
- 1:28:08metaphor where like they just live there and now they they
- 1:28:11have like the allegiance of the giant spiders.
- 1:28:13If someone if one of because like vampire politics is all
- 1:28:16betrayal and backstabbing. As well.
- 1:28:18If someone tries to make a move on Neferata's territory, they do
- 1:28:21just have to fight the crazy goblins in her front yard now,
- 1:28:24and usually that creates at least enough of a racket that
- 1:28:26she can also mount a defense if the goblins don't just take care
- 1:28:29of them. Right?
- 1:28:31Like. What?
- 1:28:32Listen, once fucking interdimensional spider show up
- 1:28:36and then pack bond with the goblins.
- 1:28:40I guess the goblins just get to live there now and you look for
- 1:28:43the silver lining. At least they're useful.
- 1:28:46I'm going to mention like 2 big a couple of like big names here.
- 1:28:53These are like different clans because I think they're kind of
- 1:28:55neat. Spider Fang have like a weird
- 1:28:56amount of lore for like how to represent that they are in
- 1:28:59models. Interesting that original spider
- 1:29:02Fang tribe in Nephrotis front yard are called the Grim Scuttle
- 1:29:04tribe. They rebranded since everybody
- 1:29:06started calling themselves a spider Fang now.
- 1:29:08Yeah, you do have to like establish some sort of like
- 1:29:11brand identity. They got Xeroxed.
- 1:29:16What about there? Yeah, that's just the whole
- 1:29:20thing with them now. They live in Neph's front yard.
- 1:29:22They're her early warning system that other vampires are trying
- 1:29:24to make a move on her territory. Great love that for her.
- 1:29:27Yep, we have the frazzle shun. I'm just.
- 1:29:30Picturing a bunch of like really violent ugly garden gnomes.
- 1:29:34Pretty much, yeah. We have the frazzle shun,
- 1:29:38frazzle shun. It's.
- 1:29:38Fun to say. These ones live in the like
- 1:29:41rocky cliffs and stuff of Hish, so they stay out of the light of
- 1:29:45Hish by living in these like deep canyons and stuff.
- 1:29:49But they do raids on luminous territory in Hish because
- 1:29:52they've developed a completely insane like technique for
- 1:29:56fighting luminous. So they have learned a way to
- 1:30:02like infuse the spiders they work alongside with like Olguz
- 1:30:07darkness magic. And so they take the silk that
- 1:30:12those spiders spin and they bundle it up into these huge
- 1:30:16like fishnets. And when they get into a fight
- 1:30:19with Luminous who are used to always having light or used to
- 1:30:22have always having like visibility and stuff.
- 1:30:25And know that like goblins are weaker and like direct light.
- 1:30:28Like a small company of Luminous will roll up to fight like a
- 1:30:32bigger group of goblins knowing that they have the upper hand
- 1:30:34because of light. And they will just like shoot
- 1:30:37this like spider web fishnet out of a catapult into the air where
- 1:30:43it will spread and suck all of the light out of.
- 1:30:46There, that's so scary. Oh my God.
- 1:30:50It's a huge nighttime fishnet bubble.
- 1:30:54That's the. Fuck wild.
- 1:30:56Incredible. And then they win because it's
- 1:30:58pitch dark now and they weren't expecting that.
- 1:31:02I mean, yeah, who's expecting that?
- 1:31:06And then similar to like the Overbounder who we mentioned
- 1:31:08before, I'm mentioning her here because she doesn't have a
- 1:31:10model, but she's noteworthy instead of her like famous
- 1:31:14faces, boss seven eyes. Boss Seven eyes.
- 1:31:18Yeah, she is a Ragnarok spider. Oh, OK, that.
- 1:31:23Makes sense because I was like Goblin.
- 1:31:26Yeah. Pronouns.
- 1:31:27Yeah. Not the same.
- 1:31:30Yes, as the others. OK, It's a spider.
- 1:31:32It's not a goblin. Yeah, fine, boss.
- 1:31:33Seven eyes. And that makes sense.
- 1:31:36She lost an eye. She lost an eye.
- 1:31:37Yeah, we don't know how. We don't know a ton about her,
- 1:31:40but I'm mentioning her because she's basically the only famous
- 1:31:42spider Fang character. She's a big spider.
- 1:31:46She is in a rack and rock who has specialized herself on
- 1:31:49hunting vampires. She pops out of the web way and
- 1:31:54she snatches vampires like almost exclusively to the extent
- 1:31:58that she is now a giant spider with a vampirism.
- 1:32:02I think I can guess how she lost one of those eyes.
- 1:32:05Yeah, it's probably to a vampire.
- 1:32:07Make it a guess. She's a vampire.
- 1:32:10Yeah, she is a giant spider vampire, which is wild because
- 1:32:13that's already basically what a spider.
- 1:32:18Is, yeah. Right.
- 1:32:20Fuck. Yeah.
- 1:32:21She's great. I'm a big fan.
- 1:32:23We we've been like, I've been thinking that we're getting her
- 1:32:27model for like ever. There's a tangent, yeah, but
- 1:32:30there's a the thing that Warhammer does called the the
- 1:32:34rumor Engine where they post like a hyper close up shot of
- 1:32:37models that they have in development.
- 1:32:40And it's meant to like Dr. Hype and like speculation stuff.
- 1:32:43Cool. The oldest currently unsolved
- 1:32:46rumor engine is literally just like a spider's face with one of
- 1:32:49his eyes gouged out. And it's like, that's boss Seven
- 1:32:52eyes. You can't tell me that's not
- 1:32:54Boss Seven Eyes. Yeah, we know one, we know two
- 1:32:57major characteristics about this character and this is half of
- 1:33:00them. Yeah, and that room, like the
- 1:33:02average time for a rumor engine is like a year and a half.
- 1:33:04That rumor engine has been unsolved.
- 1:33:06No comment for like 4 years. They just give up on it, they
- 1:33:11back off. Something had to have gone wrong
- 1:33:13in production or like something because like I can't.
- 1:33:16Believe they haven't released the giant spider with vampirism
- 1:33:19right? Right.
- 1:33:20That's feels like it's printing money, right?
- 1:33:22Who doesn't want to send a giant spider with vampirism under
- 1:33:25their like fantasy battlefield? Right, it kicks ass.
- 1:33:31But yeah, that's Moon Clan. That's Spider Fang.
- 1:33:34We're going to cut this episode here because it's already
- 1:33:36getting long and we're going to save Trogoths and git mob our
- 1:33:41wolf boys for next episode. It's going to be a 2 parter on
- 1:33:44the Gloomspike 2. Parter and really Dalton just
- 1:33:47wants some more time on goblins and you can listen to more
- 1:33:50goblin talk, which is very. Good, wrong.
- 1:33:53But in the meantime, thank you so much for joining us once
- 1:33:57again. I have, as always, been your
- 1:34:01glare face Shaman Doll Montgomery.
- 1:34:05And I'm Darian smart and Anna Green Gables was a really weird
- 1:34:07reference to make for this one. Bye.
- 1:34:11Take care.