Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / Ep. 904: Foundations - Amateur Botany and the Big Buck Connection
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
- 0:05Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
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- 0:14Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
- 0:19Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
- 0:23Speaker 2: which is brought to you by first Light. I'm your host,
- 0:24Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about understanding plant
- 0:28Speaker 2: life and how it affects almost all of our non
- 0:30Speaker 2: rut deer hunting strategies. I mean, what a better time
- 0:35Speaker 2: to talk about a super pooring ass subject than right now.
- 0:39Speaker 2: After all, you know, while our southern brothers and sisters
- 0:41Speaker 2: are probably well past the green up stage in the
- 0:44Speaker 2: woods where they live, even those of us Near Canadians
- 0:47Speaker 2: can look outside and see a world vastly change from
- 0:50Speaker 2: a month or two ago. The bloom of plant life
- 0:52Speaker 2: as the top half of the earth tips closer to
- 0:54Speaker 2: the sun is truly incredible, and all of that greenery
- 0:58Speaker 2: out there is relevant to us as hunters, especially if
- 1:01Speaker 2: we learn how to use it to our advantage, which
- 1:03Speaker 2: is what I'm going to talk about right now. A
- 1:10Speaker 2: lot of people believe that summer is hot because the
- 1:12Speaker 2: Earth is closer to the Sun then, and winter is
- 1:15Speaker 2: cold because well, it's farther away. But that's not how
- 1:19Speaker 2: it works. Although the Earth's orbit around the Sun isn't
- 1:22Speaker 2: a perfect circle, it's actually a bit lopsided. The reason
- 1:26Speaker 2: seasons vary in temperature is due to the tilt of
- 1:29Speaker 2: the Earth, or the old wobble of it all. So
- 1:32Speaker 2: why does the Earth do this? Because when our planet
- 1:35Speaker 2: was newly formed and things were a bit more chaotic
- 1:37Speaker 2: in space, we got hit by a smaller planet. It
- 1:41Speaker 2: knocked Earth off of its axis by about twenty three degrees,
- 1:44Speaker 2: and that wobble puts the top half of the Earth
- 1:47Speaker 2: closer to the Sun at certain points, and then the
- 1:49Speaker 2: bottom half at certain points, but the whole Earth doesn't
- 1:53Speaker 2: get closer farther away. Now, fun fact as well, that
- 1:56Speaker 2: collision is what caused a whole bunch of planetary material
- 1:59Speaker 2: to shoot off into and some of that coalesced into
- 2:02Speaker 2: our Moon as it was caught up in Earth's gravity. Now,
- 2:05Speaker 2: why does all of this matter at all to deer hunting?
- 2:09Speaker 2: We'll get there, buddy. That wobble which creates the seasons
- 2:14Speaker 2: also allows plant life to grow lush as hell when
- 2:17Speaker 2: either the northern or the southern hemisphere is pointed more
- 2:21Speaker 2: towards the sun. Now, the equatorial regions experience a much
- 2:24Speaker 2: more muted version of this. This essentially allows the whole
- 2:29Speaker 2: earth to take a big breath every year. When the
- 2:32Speaker 2: plant life is flourishing in the northern hemisphere, a lot
- 2:36Speaker 2: of carbon dioxide is converted to oxygen, which is good
- 2:39Speaker 2: for us, since without it, we'd all be as dead
- 2:42Speaker 2: as the next jake will be when he wanders into
- 2:44Speaker 2: my decoys. Now, when the northern hemisphere starts to tip
- 2:48Speaker 2: away and the southern starts to tip closer, the balance
- 2:52Speaker 2: starts to shift with who is doing the heavy lifting
- 2:55Speaker 2: as far as keeping plenty of oxygen in the atmosphere
- 2:57Speaker 2: for us to breathe in. Stuff, And what we are
- 3:01Speaker 2: learning about plants lately is even wilder. Take bamboo for example,
- 3:06Speaker 2: you know, the favorite food source of those lovable idiot
- 3:08Speaker 2: panda bears. This plant is the fastest growing plant we
- 3:12Speaker 2: know of. It can grow thirty five inches a day.
- 3:16Speaker 2: It's kind of like the deer antlers and their ability
- 3:18Speaker 2: to generate bone at a rate that is just the
- 3:21Speaker 2: usane bolt of uh bone growing. That feels wrong somehow. Anyway,
- 3:28Speaker 2: Archaeologists have found evidence of grape cultivation, specifically for wine making,
- 3:33Speaker 2: as far back as eight thousand years ago. In the
- 3:36Speaker 2: sixteen hundreds, tulips were so valuable in Holland that their
- 3:40Speaker 2: bulbs were worth more than gold. If you want a
- 3:43Speaker 2: crazy lesson in how to invest in stocks, do some
- 3:46Speaker 2: due diligence on the tulip mania craze. There are many,
- 3:52Speaker 2: many valuable financial lessons wrapped up in that one. Sulfuric
- 3:56Speaker 2: compounds are the reason we teer up when we cut onions,
- 4:00Speaker 2: except for Mark, who cries when he cuts most vegetables
- 4:03Speaker 2: and fruits for reasons known only to him and hopefully
- 4:07Speaker 2: his therapist. Now, some plants are medicine, some are for
- 4:11Speaker 2: fun and watching South Park while eating potato chips and
- 4:14Speaker 2: fruit roll ups, and some are essential to the well
- 4:17Speaker 2: being of herbivores, like deer. You see what I did there?
- 4:21Speaker 2: I most lost you, but then bam, it reeled you
- 4:23Speaker 2: back in. The thing about deer hunting in general is
- 4:27Speaker 2: that we are on a constant quest to take the
- 4:30Speaker 2: guesswork out of the whole process. This is no more
- 4:33Speaker 2: evident than by looking at the food block craze. You
- 4:36Speaker 2: want to kill a mature buck without having you know,
- 4:39Speaker 2: too many big brain moments, then clear out an acre,
- 4:43Speaker 2: give the soil some TLC, plant some clover, and wait,
- 4:48Speaker 2: we know deer eat clover or brassicas or whatever. So
- 4:51Speaker 2: the whole thing gets pretty simple. And we like simple
- 4:54Speaker 2: when it comes to hunting, because well, it's better than complicated,
- 4:58Speaker 2: I guess. But not everyone has the means to plant
- 5:00Speaker 2: a food plot, or the desire to sit in the
- 5:02Speaker 2: same spot and stare at the same view until along
- 5:05Speaker 2: comes the right book. There's a world of white tails
- 5:08Speaker 2: beyond that style, and anyone who is engaged in it
- 5:11Speaker 2: would do well to try to understand plants better. I've
- 5:15Speaker 2: talked about the number of plants deer known to eat
- 5:17Speaker 2: in the past, and if I remember correctly, it's something
- 5:20Speaker 2: like six hundred different kinds. That's just what we know of.
- 5:22Speaker 2: There's probably a lot more, but that's a lot, and
- 5:26Speaker 2: most of it doesn't matter at all to any one
- 5:28Speaker 2: of us on any given season. What matters instead is
- 5:32Speaker 2: to understand your local region to some extent, and to
- 5:35Speaker 2: focus on what the deer should be eating and when
- 5:37Speaker 2: they should be eating that plant. I look at this
- 5:40Speaker 2: process in two different ways, kind of specific and then general.
- 5:45Speaker 2: On the specific side, it's knowing exactly what type of
- 5:49Speaker 2: plant the deer eat, or I guess part of a
- 5:52Speaker 2: plant the deer eat. In my world, an easy example
- 5:55Speaker 2: of this is nettles. I don't really know how they
- 5:58Speaker 2: do it, but I know that they do eat them.
- 6:00Speaker 2: You know, those dark green broad leaf plants that suck
- 6:03Speaker 2: a lot to walk through when you're hanging stands or
- 6:06Speaker 2: hunting in September often show signs of heavy brows, especially
- 6:10Speaker 2: at the tops. Now in my world, that might last
- 6:13Speaker 2: until early October, and then that pattern will be dead.
- 6:18Speaker 2: There are some things I know about nettles which helped
- 6:20Speaker 2: me absolutely kill deer on them. They grow in places
- 6:24Speaker 2: with moist soil, like river bottoms, which is a huge
- 6:27Speaker 2: plus because I like river bottoms very much. They often
- 6:31Speaker 2: stay green longer than vegetation that's nearby but not in
- 6:35Speaker 2: the same little micro habitat. This helped me kill a
- 6:38Speaker 2: buck last year in Iowa. It was literally the reason
- 6:42Speaker 2: I sat where I did and deer after deer showed
- 6:45Speaker 2: me they preferred the dark green, moist broad leaf plants
- 6:48Speaker 2: there over the mostly dry brows in the rest of
- 6:52Speaker 2: the woods. These kind of plants are also easy to
- 6:55Speaker 2: read when they are being browsed, which can show you
- 6:58Speaker 2: right where to hunt, or areas the deer are definitely
- 7:01Speaker 2: passing through at any given moment. All of that is
- 7:05Speaker 2: a huge benefit, and it comes from understanding one type
- 7:08Speaker 2: of plant. That's it. Now, what if you don't want
- 7:11Speaker 2: to dig deep and identify a bunch of different plants
- 7:14Speaker 2: to hunt specifically, then you can play that generalist game
- 7:18Speaker 2: that Iowa buck from last year. He and a bunch
- 7:20Speaker 2: of other deer were hanging out on the river bottom
- 7:23Speaker 2: because the cover was better than everywhere else, and in
- 7:26Speaker 2: that cover was a whole bunch of good brows. You
- 7:30Speaker 2: wouldn't have needed to know how to identify any one
- 7:33Speaker 2: type of plant. You just would have had to recognize
- 7:36Speaker 2: that most of the woods on the bluffs were dry
- 7:39Speaker 2: and devoid of greenery, while the river valley just contained
- 7:42Speaker 2: more moisture, which means more nutritious and palatable plants during
- 7:46Speaker 2: drought years. Or look at it another way. A few
- 7:50Speaker 2: weeks back, I walked a bunch of public land in
- 7:53Speaker 2: northern Wisconsin that all kind of looks the same until
- 7:56Speaker 2: you start paying closer attention. There are some hill there,
- 8:00Speaker 2: which means higher drier ground, and then there's lower wetter ground,
- 8:05Speaker 2: which influences plant growth. But there is also a timber
- 8:08Speaker 2: industry there that creates vastly different plant growth opportunities. Those
- 8:23Speaker 2: soft edges in the timber that guys like me are
- 8:26Speaker 2: always spouting off about, well, they're not just places where
- 8:29Speaker 2: bucks travel because they are often a bit thicker than
- 8:32Speaker 2: the surrounding areas. They also happen to be where two
- 8:35Speaker 2: types of habitat meet but neither dominates. This allows for
- 8:40Speaker 2: fringe species to thrive, the ones that need a certain
- 8:43Speaker 2: mix of shade and sunlight that the old growth and
- 8:46Speaker 2: the clearcuts just don't offer. What that means is it
- 8:50Speaker 2: concentrates certain plants in a kind of tight ish line,
- 8:55Speaker 2: which is part of the reason deer and other animals
- 8:57Speaker 2: love soft edges so much. Since they are generally concentrated,
- 9:02Speaker 2: you can do a browse check pretty quickly on soft
- 9:04Speaker 2: edges to see what's going on there, and you can
- 9:07Speaker 2: double check your work by looking for droppings and tracks
- 9:10Speaker 2: other sign That kind of thing is what separates the
- 9:14Speaker 2: tadpoles from the frogs my friends, and it's a lesson
- 9:17Speaker 2: I keep learning the more I keep hunting everything Helen
- 9:21Speaker 2: Turkey season. This year, I hunted a property I've hunted
- 9:23Speaker 2: a lot, and I kept seeing birds come out of
- 9:26Speaker 2: a specific spot that just didn't make much sense to me.
- 9:29Speaker 2: So I went in and I looked at it, and
- 9:31Speaker 2: I found two things. One was a whole bunch of
- 9:34Speaker 2: red oak acorns that hadn't been gobbled up throughout the winter.
- 9:38Speaker 2: The other was just a couple of grassy hillside spots
- 9:41Speaker 2: that were scratched to shit. I never figured out exactly
- 9:44Speaker 2: what they were scratching up there, but it didn't matter.
- 9:47Speaker 2: They were using the area big time, and that's sometimes
- 9:50Speaker 2: all we can ask for. Now when it comes to deer,
- 9:53Speaker 2: there are different ways to look at this and how
- 9:55Speaker 2: it might play into a hunting strategy. Think about a
- 9:58Speaker 2: field edge, for example. We love to sit field edges
- 10:02Speaker 2: for many reasons, but where to sit on what field
- 10:05Speaker 2: edge matters a lot too. Exposure to sunlight will be
- 10:09Speaker 2: a factor in whether the early season bucks will come
- 10:12Speaker 2: out two hours before dark or at last light. Now
- 10:15Speaker 2: that west dish facing edge that gets soaked and burning
- 10:18Speaker 2: sunlight for the back half of the day isn't going
- 10:21Speaker 2: to be as good as the shadier sides in hot weather,
- 10:24Speaker 2: but it also might not offer up as much lush
- 10:27Speaker 2: brows as the field edges with a little better mix
- 10:29Speaker 2: of sunlight and shadows. That stuff matters, And if you
- 10:34Speaker 2: spend any amount of time looking through a spot or
- 10:36Speaker 2: in the summer, you know how often deer pop out
- 10:39Speaker 2: and then dive back into the cover, or how some
- 10:42Speaker 2: of them will mostly feed in the field for a
- 10:44Speaker 2: while but mix things up by standing on the edge
- 10:47Speaker 2: and browsing away. If I'm hunting the early season, I
- 10:50Speaker 2: want that main food source working for me, but I
- 10:54Speaker 2: also want that secondary brows working for me, Just like
- 10:57Speaker 2: I'd rather sit on on the edge of the bean
- 11:00Speaker 2: where white oaks are dropping their acorns versus not or
- 11:04Speaker 2: post up on the alfalfa near a couple apple trees
- 11:07Speaker 2: versus sitting on the alfalfa not near any granny smiths
- 11:11Speaker 2: drop into the ground. I look at understanding brows and
- 11:15Speaker 2: really masked as well as the micro part of the
- 11:18Speaker 2: whole thing, The macro part which a lot of us
- 11:21Speaker 2: don't move past, is that the deer walk into the
- 11:24Speaker 2: field and they eat, they set up there see deer
- 11:27Speaker 2: and sometimes kill them. But the micro part matters because
- 11:31Speaker 2: it's just more specific and being able to predict where
- 11:34Speaker 2: a buck will likely walk, like exactly where he'll walk,
- 11:38Speaker 2: that's pretty dang valuable. Another way to think about botany,
- 11:43Speaker 2: which kind of goes back to that Iowa buck example,
- 11:45Speaker 2: is this deer want the best bang for their bucks,
- 11:48Speaker 2: so to speak, when it comes to spending time eating something.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Maybe this isn't the same thing, but think about this scenario.
- 11:55Speaker 2: You wake up and don't have time for breakfast because
- 11:58Speaker 2: your dog puked on the floor and the kids have
- 12:00Speaker 2: to get to school, and for whatever reason, you don't eat,
- 12:03Speaker 2: and you're used to eating, what are you going to
- 12:05Speaker 2: be like at lunch? Ravenous and when you're super hungry,
- 12:10Speaker 2: what are you going to look for something quick in
- 12:12Speaker 2: calorie dnse. That's actually evolution at work, and in modern society,
- 12:17Speaker 2: it works against us because we have access to a
- 12:20Speaker 2: lot of easy, calorie dense food that is mostly very
- 12:24Speaker 2: very bad for us. But it's an undeniable poll that
- 12:28Speaker 2: if you don't prepare for it and you find yourself
- 12:30Speaker 2: suddenly very very hungry, you know what you're going to
- 12:33Speaker 2: do now with deer. They probably aren't skipping breakfast and
- 12:37Speaker 2: sitting in stupid deer Google meets all morning listening to
- 12:39Speaker 2: their deer. Coworkers try to justify their jobs by saying
- 12:43Speaker 2: dumb shit that didn't need to be said. But they
- 12:46Speaker 2: do get hungry, and they do have different dietary needs
- 12:49Speaker 2: depending on the time of year. A big one for
- 12:52Speaker 2: bucks is the lead up to the rut, where they
- 12:55Speaker 2: need to pack on the pounds like folks do when
- 12:57Speaker 2: they go on that survival show called Alone. Because when
- 12:59Speaker 2: the dose start going wild and the bucks are after them,
- 13:02Speaker 2: those bucks aren't going to eat a lot. They need
- 13:05Speaker 2: good calories and nutrients, and they are very, very familiar
- 13:09Speaker 2: with their home ground. So if some plant is still
- 13:13Speaker 2: green and lush and full of the good stuff that
- 13:16Speaker 2: it pulled from the soil, they are going to know
- 13:18Speaker 2: about that food source and they are going to find
- 13:21Speaker 2: it and use it. I think about this stuff a lot,
- 13:24Speaker 2: and I play this pattern a lot when I'm hunting
- 13:26Speaker 2: Western critters where there are either stock tanks or just
- 13:29Speaker 2: cattle ponds. A stock tank that overflows as almost like
- 13:33Speaker 2: a bait pile, where the ground is generally very dry,
- 13:37Speaker 2: that little swath of irrigated ground will have lush grasses
- 13:41Speaker 2: and other vegetation, and it'll concentrate deer or turkeys or
- 13:46Speaker 2: elk or whatever. Now there is the bonus of water,
- 13:50Speaker 2: of course, but even when it's cool and the rut
- 13:52Speaker 2: isn't on and the deer aren't dying of thirst at
- 13:55Speaker 2: any given point in the day, they will want to
- 13:57Speaker 2: eat that lush greenery because it's better for their bodies.
- 14:02Speaker 2: Maybe that's the last point to talk about here when
- 14:04Speaker 2: it comes to understanding plant life better in your region
- 14:08Speaker 2: and why it matters to you as a hunter. We
- 14:11Speaker 2: like to dumb this stuff down to make the decision
- 14:13Speaker 2: making process much easier. So take a cut cornfield as
- 14:17Speaker 2: an example. Without question, if there are a deer around somewhere,
- 14:21Speaker 2: they're going to end up in that cut cornfield, especially
- 14:24Speaker 2: if it wasn't chisel plowed. That's easy, and you can
- 14:28Speaker 2: kill a hell of a lot of deer without knowing
- 14:30Speaker 2: much more than that. But is that cut cornfield the
- 14:33Speaker 2: same drawn October as it is in December? What about
- 14:36Speaker 2: if it's eighty degrees during the rut versus thirty. What
- 14:40Speaker 2: about the fact that a big cut cornfield is generally
- 14:43Speaker 2: a promise to the deer that a certain type of
- 14:45Speaker 2: carbs or calories is kind of static in their lives.
- 14:48Speaker 2: They know they can go there at any point in
- 14:50Speaker 2: the night and they can scrounge around for enough kernels
- 14:53Speaker 2: to fill their bellies. That's great, but corn is only
- 14:57Speaker 2: going to give them a part of what they need
- 14:58Speaker 2: to be healthy enough to fade predators and pass on
- 15:01Speaker 2: their janes when the time comes. Depending on the region,
- 15:04Speaker 2: that part might be a big part, but it still
- 15:07Speaker 2: won't be the whole thing. Those cornfield deer are going
- 15:11Speaker 2: to find other sources of food to eat because their
- 15:14Speaker 2: bodies literally need them, and some of those food sources
- 15:17Speaker 2: will be short window heavy draw plants. This is one
- 15:21Speaker 2: of the reasons I love observation stands so much. When
- 15:24Speaker 2: I'm hunting new ground, watching a buck walk across a
- 15:28Speaker 2: creek in a certain spot huge advantage. But watching that
- 15:32Speaker 2: same buck spend an hour on the riverbank browsing away
- 15:35Speaker 2: is even better. Now I have that crossing to work with,
- 15:39Speaker 2: but also a browse pattern that will definitely be appealing
- 15:42Speaker 2: to more than just that deer. Hell, the reality of
- 15:46Speaker 2: that is that every deer you see browsing, whether it's
- 15:50Speaker 2: doze with a couple of fawnds or a booner is
- 15:53Speaker 2: giving you a gift because it's not accidental what they
- 15:56Speaker 2: are doing. It's intentional because they needed to serve. And
- 16:00Speaker 2: that's something we miss with a lot of the talk
- 16:02Speaker 2: about certain food sources, but especially masked you don't think
- 16:06Speaker 2: about persimmons. For example, a right per simon is a
- 16:09Speaker 2: sugar retreat, and we know that deer like them very much,
- 16:12Speaker 2: But why purely for the flavor? I doubt that while
- 16:17Speaker 2: we are inundated with sugar in so many different foods
- 16:19Speaker 2: to the point most of us consume way way too
- 16:22Speaker 2: much of it, the deer don't. They aren't rolling up
- 16:25Speaker 2: to the seven eleven to buy a slushian of Snickers.
- 16:28Speaker 2: The sugar content is different for them, just like the
- 16:30Speaker 2: moisture content of some broad leaf brassica type plant growing
- 16:33Speaker 2: in the creek bottom gives them something more beneficial than
- 16:36Speaker 2: nipping along on the dry brows at the top of
- 16:39Speaker 2: the ridge. They can eat both, but they choose one
- 16:42Speaker 2: for a very specific reason. Now. I know this is
- 16:46Speaker 2: kind of daunting to a lot of folks who just
- 16:48Speaker 2: want to know what deer call to use and when,
- 16:51Speaker 2: But the truth is that you can't escape good old
- 16:54Speaker 2: woodsmanship and understanding plant life and the importance of brows
- 16:58Speaker 2: is way up there on the list of ways you
- 16:59Speaker 2: can do diferentiate yourself from most other hunters. It might
- 17:04Speaker 2: not be an exciting topic, but becoming an amateur botanist
- 17:07Speaker 2: can help you kill more big bucks. So consider it
- 17:10Speaker 2: and consider coming back next week because I'm going to
- 17:13Speaker 2: talk about finding a little mystery in the deer woods.
- 17:17Speaker 2: That's it. I'm Tony Peterson. This has been the Wired
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