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The Pushkin Prize for Egregiously Deceptive Self-Promotion · Revisionist History

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  Speaker 1: Pushkin, and the Emmy goes too, and the Oscar goes
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  Speaker 1: to and the People's Choice Award goes.
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  Speaker 2: To Thank you to the Academy for this incredible recognition.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so honored. I'm so honored.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody want to know what I would do if I
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  Speaker 4: didn't win.
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  Speaker 5: I guess we'll never know.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody gets a prize in modern America, actors, writers, musicians.
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  Speaker 6: But you know who doesn't get a fancy prize the
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  Speaker 6: hard working administrators of America's elite colleges and universities. For years,
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  Speaker 6: I've observed this oversight with what can only be described
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  Speaker 6: as dismay, until I decided, damn it, if this country
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  Speaker 6: wasn't gonna honor the beleaguered giants of the Ivy League,
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  Speaker 6: then I would. My name is Malcolm Blackwell. You're listening
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  Speaker 6: to Revisionist History, my podcast about things overlooked and misunderstood.
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  Speaker 6: In this episode, we are pleased to inaugurate the first
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  Speaker 6: annual Revisionist History Higher Education Award in honor of our
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  Speaker 6: company's namesake. We're gonna call them the Pushkin Prizes. Folks.
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  Speaker 6: These prizes are super prestigious. You can't see this because
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  Speaker 6: this is audio but we have little gold statuettes of
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  Speaker 6: Alexander Pushkin himself. You're gonna walk into the lobby of
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  Speaker 6: your favorite eighteenth century ivy colored marble granite University Administration
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  Speaker 6: building and they are in a glass case. Below the
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  Speaker 6: tiffany chandelier is going to be a Pushkin. That is,
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  Speaker 6: if you're lucky. I promise that over the next few years,
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  Speaker 6: the giants of American academia will be graced with a
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  Speaker 6: Pushkin statuette in recognition of one stupendous achievement or another.
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  Speaker 6: And in this episode, we begin our awards program with
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  Speaker 6: the mac Daddy of Pushkin Prizes, the George Santos Memorial
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  Speaker 6: Pushkin Prize for egregiously Deceptive Self Promotion.
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  Speaker 7: My parents came to this country in search of the
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  Speaker 7: American dream. Today I live that American dream, only in
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  Speaker 7: this country, only in this country. And the little boy
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  Speaker 7: born in a basement apartment in Jackson Heights, Queens in
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  Speaker 7: New York City, become a United States Congressman at thirty four.
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  Speaker 7: It's a story of survival, of tenacity, of grit, as
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  Speaker 7: we like to call it.
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  Speaker 6: Actually, it's not a story of survival, tenacity and grit
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  Speaker 6: as we like to call it the story of George Santos,
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  Speaker 6: Congressman from Long Island, is the story of someone who
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  Speaker 6: made up basically everything on his resume. And it is
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  Speaker 6: that shamelessness that we seek to reward with the first
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  Speaker 6: of the coveted Pushkin Prizes.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning, Chabatsalom too, everybody. Thank you for being here,
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  Speaker 7: Thank you for having me. We're no stranger to persecution.
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  Speaker 7: My grandfather fleeing Ukraine in nineteen twenties to Belgium.
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  Speaker 6: Turns out he's not Jewish. Santos said his mom was
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  Speaker 6: a nine to eleven survivor. Turns out she wasn't even
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  Speaker 6: in New York City during nine to eleven. He said
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  Speaker 6: he worked at Goldman Sachs. It turns out he never
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  Speaker 6: set foot in Golden Sex. And then there was this
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  Speaker 6: tallest of tall tales, which I love so much.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, you know what's funny, George. You go right to
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  Speaker 4: the heart here of me. Sid and Bernie.
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  Speaker 6: This is Santos on a local New York radio show
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  Speaker 6: Sid and Friends in the Morning during his first congressional
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  Speaker 6: run in twenty twenty, and the host Sid Rosenberg starts
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  Speaker 6: talking about sports.
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  Speaker 4: At the very end of your biography, It says in
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  Speaker 4: his spare time, George Anthony enjoys volleyball and tennis.
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  Speaker 6: Rosenberg says, that's funny because both his daughter and his
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  Speaker 6: co host daughter are avid volleyball and tennis players. Then
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  Speaker 6: Santo's response, you know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 8: I actually went to school on a volleyball scholarship.
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  Speaker 6: I did what I did.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, when I was in Beruke, we were the number
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  Speaker 8: one volleyball.
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  Speaker 4: Did you graduate from barok? Did you graduate from them?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: So did I did?
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  Speaker 8: I did so?
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  Speaker 4: Did I?
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  Speaker 8: Oh? Very cool cho great institutions. But it's funny that
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  Speaker 8: we went to play against Harvard Yale and we play them.
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  Speaker 8: We were champions across the entire Northeast corridor. Every school
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  Speaker 8: that came up against us, they were shaking at the time.
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  Speaker 8: And it's funny. I was the smallest guy and I'm
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  Speaker 8: six two. We had on our block, on our on
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  Speaker 8: our on our block alone, there were six seven sixty eight.
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  Speaker 8: These guys weren't jumping, they were just stretching their arms up.
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  Speaker 8: We were, we were and all of us could have
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  Speaker 8: been playing basketball, but we chose volleyball because it was easier.
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  Speaker 8: So it was a great time I look, I sacrificed
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  Speaker 8: both my knees and got very nice knee replacements. Knee
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  Speaker 8: replacements from Assa's playing volleyball. That's how serious I took
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  Speaker 8: the game.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's how serious you're taking politics as well. Remember
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  Speaker 4: this name, folks, George Santos out in the third district.
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  Speaker 6: This is, to my mind, the gold standard George Santos fabrication,
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  Speaker 6: a wedding cake of prevarication. The Washington posted a breakdown
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  Speaker 6: to the tape, and here's what they found. Let's start
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  Speaker 6: with the smallest lies and work backwards. Brooke didn't beat
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  Speaker 6: Yale at volleyball because Yale doesn't have a varsity volleyball team.
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  Speaker 6: Santels later said he played the position of striker. Volleyball
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  Speaker 6: teams don't have strikers. That suck. Nor did Santos have
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  Speaker 6: a volleyball scholarship at Baruque because Baruq doesn't give out
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  Speaker 6: volleyball scholarships, and at six', two he would not have
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  Speaker 6: been the shortest player in the team even if he
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  Speaker 6: had been on the, team but he. Wasn't he never
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  Speaker 6: played volleyball At, baruk maybe because he never Attended baruk at,
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  Speaker 6: all which means his needs are perfectly, fine unless that,
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  Speaker 6: is he blew them out playing some other imaginary. Sport
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  Speaker 6: that's seven lies in a. Row and if you listen
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  Speaker 6: to the, tape it's clear that he made up the
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  Speaker 6: whole string on the. Fly the man is an. Icon
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  Speaker 6: and with our First Pushkin, prize we ask What american
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  Speaker 6: college came closest in the past year to this lofty.
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  Speaker 6: Standard believe, me they were many, nominees all of them.
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  Speaker 6: Worthy envelope, please and the winner Is Columbia.
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  Speaker 2: University the big beginning when you heard when you, SAID
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  Speaker 2: i want to Investigate columbia's rise to number, two did,
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  Speaker 2: you in the back of your mind think there might
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  Speaker 2: be something questionable going?
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  Speaker 5: On, yes not even, no not in the back of my.
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  Speaker 5: Mind at the front of my, mind.
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  Speaker 6: You're listening to a math professor At columbia Named Michael,
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  Speaker 6: thaddius fifties long. HAIR i went to see him in
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  Speaker 6: his office on The columbia, campus full of books and,
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  Speaker 6: strange captivating jottings on the. Wall my father was a.
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  Speaker 6: MATHEMATICIAN i have great affection for the. Species if you Google,
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  Speaker 6: thadius you'll find papers that begin with things like we
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  Speaker 6: discuss sympletic cutting For hamiltonian actions of Non abelian compact.
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  Speaker 6: Groups by using a degeneration based on The vinburg, monoid
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  Speaker 6: we give in good cases a global quotient description of
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  Speaker 6: a surgery construction introduced By woodward n mind, ranking and
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  Speaker 6: show it can be interpreted in algebra geometric. TERMS i
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  Speaker 6: have no idea what that, means But Michael thaddius, does
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  Speaker 6: which is to say that when it comes to numbers
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  Speaker 6: and statistics and, things he's someone to take very. Seriously
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  Speaker 6: so one, day not long, ago he hears something that
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  Speaker 6: doesn't seem.
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  Speaker 5: Right SO i saw That columbia had risen to number.
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  Speaker 5: TWO i think in, fact this was even mentioned by
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  Speaker 5: our own dean at a faculty. MEETING i think that's
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  Speaker 5: HOW i found out about.
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  Speaker 6: It the dean announces to, EVERYONE i have amazing. News
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  Speaker 6: columbia has just risen to number two in THE Us
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  Speaker 6: News college, rankings just a hair Behind. Princeton everyone basks
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  Speaker 6: in the glow of the school's extraordinary, achievement because you
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  Speaker 6: know what a HIGH Us news rankings, means more alumni,
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  Speaker 6: dollars more, prestige more, applications more excitement and desire from
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  Speaker 6: neurotic upper middle class suburban. Parents for anyone With Ivy league,
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  Speaker 6: dreams it's the holy. GRAIL i, mean if you have
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  Speaker 6: a kid in high school and your kids, Said, MOM
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  Speaker 6: i just got Into, columbia you will be over the.
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  Speaker 6: Moon and why would you be over the Moon Because
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  Speaker 6: columbia is number two in THE Us news. Rankings so
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  Speaker 6: The dean makes for big, announcement But Michael, thaddeus the numbers,
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  Speaker 6: guy isn't buying.
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  Speaker 5: It and that just piqued my. Curiosity two is pretty high.
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  Speaker 5: Ranking you, Know in, particular we were tied With harvard AND,
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  Speaker 5: mit which are institutions that objectively have certain big advantages over.
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  Speaker 5: Us they have much larger, endowments they have much more
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  Speaker 5: space than we. Do AND i just you, Know i've
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  Speaker 5: also over the, Years i've taken a greater and, greater
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  Speaker 5: perhaps almost obsessive interest in facts and figures about the.
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  Speaker 5: UNIVERSITY i look at a lot of websites where the numbers,
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  Speaker 5: appear AND i just, wondered how Could columbia have performed
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  Speaker 5: so well on this ranking as to be tied with
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  Speaker 5: institutions that have these objective advantages over. It how do
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  Speaker 5: the numbers break?
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  Speaker 6: Down columbia started in these rankings at, eighteenth then began a,
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  Speaker 6: steady dramatic climb Past, Cornell, washington Uw, Rice, Vanderbilt, Brown, Dartmouth, Northwestern, Duke,
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  Speaker 6: Caltech Penn Johns, Hopkins university Of, Chicago, Yale. Stanford in
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  Speaker 6: the past five years, alone they've gone from fifth to
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  Speaker 6: third to, second shooting like a shiny asteroid past their glittering.
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  Speaker 6: Peers i'm a.
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  Speaker 4: Runner you.
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  Speaker 6: Know in the running, world the tell for whether someone
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  Speaker 6: is doping is in an unexpected. Improvement you, know when
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  Speaker 6: the twenty seven year old miler suddenly lops three seconds
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  Speaker 6: off their personal. BEST i see you, say.
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  Speaker 5: Sudden improvement is the tell sudden out of context.
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  Speaker 6: Improvement oh. My the first Thing thadius did after the
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  Speaker 6: faculty meeting is by a subscription to THE Us news.
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  Speaker 6: Rankings he downloaded the Data columbia submitted for his, application
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  Speaker 6: and his eye falls on class. Size columbia reported TO
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  Speaker 6: Us news that eighty two point five percent of its
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  Speaker 6: classes had less than twenty. Students thaddius looked at that
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  Speaker 6: number and, thought.
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  Speaker 5: Huh anyone who was taught here AS i have for
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  Speaker 5: the last twenty five, years knows that our class sizes
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  Speaker 5: are not particularly small for an elite, university and that
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  Speaker 5: they have been steadily. Growing i'm teaching, calculus OR i
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  Speaker 5: have just finished teaching a calculus course that had about
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  Speaker 5: seventy six, students and that's typical for a course of that.
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  Speaker 5: NATURE Us news said that what was it? AGAIN i
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  Speaker 5: think eighty two point five percent of all classes enrolled
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  Speaker 5: below twenty, students and that just did not square with
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  Speaker 5: my experience at.
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  Speaker 6: All so he decided to fact Check columbia's. Claim he
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  Speaker 6: went to the university's class catalog and pulled out the
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  Speaker 6: data on all thirty thousand of the school's.
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  Speaker 5: CLASSES i took THE html code of those, pages downloaded
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  Speaker 5: the source, code concatenated all the. Files THEN i used
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  Speaker 5: a text, Editor emacs to edit the resulting gigantic file
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  Speaker 5: in such a way THAT i turned it into a
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  Speaker 5: database comma separated database with the course, names, numbers, enrollments
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  Speaker 5: and THEN i opened it up In.
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  Speaker 6: Excel he analyzed the, data double checked his, math and
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  Speaker 6: realized his pokey feeling was.
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  Speaker 5: JUSTIFIED i was able to arrive at an estimate it
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  Speaker 5: was more like sixty two to sixty eight, percent a
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  Speaker 5: far cry from eighty three.
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  Speaker 6: Percent now he's getting. Suspicious he picks another. Number THE
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  Speaker 6: Us news rankings penalizes the school if it has too
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  Speaker 6: many part time. Faculty columbia TOLD Us news that it
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  Speaker 6: only had one hundred and thirty seven part, timers but
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  Speaker 6: that has found that the school also had to report
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  Speaker 6: the statistic to The department Of.
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  Speaker 5: Education the number reporter of the government was over one,
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  Speaker 5: thousand AND i think that that's the more accurate number to,
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  Speaker 5: me this is a really important figure that the balance
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  Speaker 5: between full time and part time faculty is a crucial
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  Speaker 5: matter for the future of intellectual life and the future
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  Speaker 5: Of american. Universities if we just casualize our, faculty we
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  Speaker 5: switched to the sort of gig economy model where most
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  Speaker 5: people are working contingentally at part. Time that's going to
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  Speaker 5: be disastrous for the quality of. Education it's going to
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  Speaker 5: be disastrous for the quality of intellectual. Life and so
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  Speaker 5: we need to have, honest reliable figures about. This and
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  Speaker 5: yet we have these two figures From columbia that differ
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  Speaker 5: by a factor of.
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  Speaker 6: Eight he kept, GOING Us news wants to know what
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  Speaker 6: percentage of your faculty has a terminal degree in their. Field,
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  Speaker 6: basically do they have a PhD or. Not columbia reported
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  Speaker 6: the highest terminal degree number of any college in the entire,
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  Speaker 6: country ninety nine point five, percent WHICH Us news rounded
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  Speaker 6: up to one hundred. Percent that's. Everyone So thadius goes
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  Speaker 6: through the faculty directory and looks to see if there's
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  Speaker 6: anyone teaching At columbia who only has a bachelor's degree
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  Speaker 6: and finds dozens and dozens of faculty with no more
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  Speaker 6: than A ba to their.
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  Speaker 5: Name and that was enough that there was no way
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  Speaker 5: that the percentage could have been ninety nine point.
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  Speaker 6: Five columbia says it's student faculty ratio is six to.
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  Speaker 6: One it's. Not it's more like eleven to. One on
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  Speaker 6: and on.
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  Speaker 5: Every single figure that WHERE i could check it, INDEPENDENTLY
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  Speaker 5: i found a significant discrepancy between what was reported TO
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  Speaker 5: Us news and WHAT i could confirm.
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  Speaker 6: Elsewhere then he sat down and wrote up a massive
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  Speaker 6: analysis of his findings, charts, graphs computer, analyzes pages upon.
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  Speaker 6: Pages he puts it up on his faculty web, page
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  Speaker 6: and there it sits for weeks and weeks, until for
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  Speaker 6: some strange, reason someone posts a link To thaddeus's manifesto
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  Speaker 6: on the message board of the running Website let's run dot.
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  Speaker 6: Com if you are unfamiliar with the message boards Of Let's,
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  Speaker 6: run here are some typical. Threads two he runs crazy
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  Speaker 6: four to twenty three anchor leg FOR Nc, state but
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  Speaker 6: still not enough for d mr. Or at twenty, SEVEN
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  Speaker 6: i finally realized every tattoo anyone has is for attracting
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  Speaker 6: a mate Or Rip, spencer the official dog of The Boston,
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  Speaker 6: marathon has. Died now how DO i know about? This
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  Speaker 6: Because Let's run is one of my favorite. WEBSITES i
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  Speaker 6: am one of those people dutifully reading The Let's run message.
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  Speaker 6: Boards SO i see a link and click on. It
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  Speaker 6: because you know HOW i feel about THE us news.
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  Speaker 6: Rankings i'm obsessed with. Them i've lost track of how
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  Speaker 6: many revisionist history episodes have been devoted to testifying to their.
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  Speaker 6: STUPIDITY i don't understand why college administrators care so much about,
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  Speaker 6: them why parents and their college bound teenagers go nuts about.
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  Speaker 6: Them when law schools and medical schools began dropping out
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  Speaker 6: of THE us, RANKINGS i walked around the streets Of
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  Speaker 6: New york pounding on my chest LIKE i was personally.
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  Speaker 6: Responsible do you see What i'm? SAYING i was the
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  Speaker 6: target audience for The thaddeus Expose.
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  Speaker 5: AGAIN i salute. You you were serre of the tipping,
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  Speaker 5: point AS i, SAID i, mean but when you started
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  Speaker 5: tweeting about, it that was when the rest of the
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  Speaker 5: world started to take. Notice So i'm grateful for.
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  Speaker 6: That, oh the first nice thing anyone has ever said
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  Speaker 6: about My. Twitter so the story goes. Everywhere colombia goes
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  Speaker 6: into a defensive, crouch and THE Us news reanalyzes the
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  Speaker 6: situation and Downgrades columbia back to. Eighteen, oh how the
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  Speaker 6: mighty have. FALLEN i know what you're. Thinking The Pushkin
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  Speaker 6: prize is a highly prestigious. Award those statuettes are. Coveted
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  Speaker 6: so how can we be sure That columbia meets the
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  Speaker 6: elevated standard set by our Namesake George? Santos very good.
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  Speaker 6: Question please join me as we break it. Down to my,
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  Speaker 6: mind there are three Criteria columbia needs to meet to
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  Speaker 6: rise To santos level. Deception the first is. Gratuitousness that's
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  Speaker 6: the power of The santos bit about his volleyball career At.
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  Speaker 6: Baruk this was a lie fundamentally different from his claims
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  Speaker 6: to Being, jewish working At Golden sachs and running a
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  Speaker 6: charity for unwanted. Pets SORRY i left that one out.
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  Speaker 6: Before those were all lies that helped his case with
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  Speaker 6: the voters Of Long. ISLAND A jewish investment banker who
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  Speaker 6: loves domestic animals is pretty much The Long island equivalent
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  Speaker 6: Of George. Clooney but no one was going to vote
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  Speaker 6: for him because he blew out two knees battling as
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  Speaker 6: the shortest man on The barut volleyball. Squad he had
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  Speaker 6: them A Jewish Goldman sachs and abandoned. Kittens the volleyball
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  Speaker 6: lie was pure gilding the, lily and that's what makes
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  Speaker 6: it so. Heroic santos lied when it wasn't even in
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  Speaker 6: his interest to. Lie now Does columbia meet this? Standard
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  Speaker 6: was their deception? Gratuitous in order to answer this, QUESTION
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  Speaker 6: i turned To Revisionist history's resident data, Scientist Lauren. Lavelle,
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  Speaker 6: Lauren Lauren, Lauren, Hey, malcolm we ride. Again some of
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  Speaker 6: you may Remember lauren from The Project dillard episdisode Of Revision's.
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  Speaker 6: HISTORY a group of undergraduates that read college hacked their
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  Speaker 6: way into THE Us news, algorithm which gave them a
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  Speaker 6: computer model that can test any hypothesis about a school's.
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  Speaker 6: Rankings SO i Asked, lauren who studied statistics At, read
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  Speaker 6: to use the model to figure out how a historically
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  Speaker 6: black college could rise in THE Us news. Rankings you
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  Speaker 6: may recall her. Answer it was the best way for
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  Speaker 6: a college full of black students to rise in THE
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  Speaker 6: Us news rankings was to let in lots of white.
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  Speaker 4: Students AND i.
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  Speaker 3: Can't emphasize enough that this model was built by undergraduate
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  Speaker 3: students for a class. Project they did a great, job
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  Speaker 3: and this model works. Amazingly you, know it wasn't some
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  Speaker 3: super prestigious data scientists getting paid millions of dollars to
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  Speaker 3: do this for some super prestigious university like it's.
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  Speaker 6: Students in other, words the barriers to manipulation are. Low,
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  Speaker 6: Yes SO i said To, lauren let's use the Trusted
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  Speaker 6: read college model to get at this question of. GRATUITOUSNESS
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  Speaker 6: i send her a list of questions starting with tell
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  Speaker 6: me which Of columbia's whoppers mattered the, most and her
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  Speaker 6: conclusion was a.
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  Speaker 3: Shocker the thing that really making the biggest difference is
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  Speaker 3: the faculty resources. Category so for faculty, resources we have
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  Speaker 3: our class, size our percent of our faculty that are
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  Speaker 3: full time and our student to faculty.
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  Speaker 6: RATIO Us news grades all universities on a scale of
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: zero to one, hundred So princeton at number one is one.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: Hundred columbia is a close second at ninety. Six according
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: To lauren's, analysis fiddling with just those three variables Gave
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: columbia an eight point. Boost and the reason that's unexpected
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: is because faculty resources only count for a tiny amount
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: in the OVERALL Us news ranking. Algorithm you tinker with those,
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: variables you get a massive.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Payoff exactly when you change just one or two of, them,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: again it's only like a one or two, Point but
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: when you put all three of them, together it's the
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: synergies between these variables that create these big. Jumps, wait
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: so on.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Apausitives, yeah this is really interesting because this supports the
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: notion that this was not an accidental happening At. Columbia
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: this suggests there was some significant thought behind, this because
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: what you told me is something that's not. Intuitive. RIGHT
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: i would have thought that you could identify one whiz
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: bank that would have given us a massive. Payoff we
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: wouldn't have had to do anything. Else but what you're
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: saying is, no You, actually it's an unexpected area gives
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: you a huge. Payoff and also if you want to
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: get a twelve point, swing you have to tinker with
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: a lot of.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Variables, absolutely, Absolutely.
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: And there's there's some kind of thing greater than the
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: some of its parts that's that work here that you
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: could only stumble on if you went behind the scenes
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: and sort of tried to figure out a murky black
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: box that is us.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: News, yes that is exactly What i'm. Saying so can
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: we do screen share on? Here is that a? Thing
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: CAN i show you my?
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: Code can? You can you tilt your camera to just
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: show me the thing IN i? See, oh oh it's
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: on your? Screen can you screen share an? Emo, Lauren
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: i'm fifty nine years. OLD i barely know how to
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: work a. Computer, sorry this went on for a. Bit
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: this is what happens when a data scientist tries to
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: communicate with a boomer over. Zoom lauren laps into geek
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: mode for like twenty, minutes talking about unexpected. Nonlinearities her
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: point was that the way to climb the rankings is not.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: Obvious it's a laundry list of nips and tucks that
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: an unexpected combination give you a. Facelift if you tried
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: to do it just by eyeballing the criteria THAT Us
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: news makes, public you'd fail to go back to the
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: POINT i was, saying to my, mind this argues powerfully
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: for some kind of premeditation on the part Of. COLUMBIA i,
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: mean we have no idea what they, did so it
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: is all in the realm of. Speculation but they basically
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: manufactured a twelve point. Swing and it's very hard to
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: imagine how you could manufacture a twelve point swing by
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: the seat of your, pants because it's not.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: INTUITIVE i, agree there's probably some dirty play happening, Somewhere.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: Lauren they hired someone like, you that's what they. Did
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: somewhere out, there there is some brainy twenty six year
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: old with blood on their.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: HANDS i, mean, maybe to.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: Be, CLEAR i don't know that they hired someone Like
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: lauren to coordinate. This but here's the crucial fact that
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: Puts columbia In George santo's. Territory lots Of columbia's inventions
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: don't have much of a, payoff, like for, instance their
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: most spectacular nonsense of all The Big kahuna concerns something
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: called instructional resources the more money you spend on, teaching
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: the MORE Us news rewards. You and the number Of
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: columbia claim to spend on teaching was hilariously, large just
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: over three billion. Dollars that he has spent a huge
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: amount of time trying to figure out just where that
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: preposterous number came, from before he realized they just added
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: in the one point two billion they spend every year
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: on patient care At columbia's medical. Center they're pretending that
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: the person getting an Appendect toby is a, student which
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: is completely and utterly. Bananas now what difference did this
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: particular outrageous bit Of shenanigan.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Make let's, SEE i have a graph. Somewhere, Okay So
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: columbia reported that it spends about three billion dollars on an.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Instruction this is for fiscal year twenty twenty, two and
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: it's consolidated financial. Statements they report for instruction and educational
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: administration about two billion. Dollars.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: Oh the reason we know this is a lie is
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: that on its official financial, statements which are audited by actual,
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: professionals the school doesn't pull the same.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Stunt so that's a billion dollars extra that they're reporting TO.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Us news, basically and when that works out on a
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: per student, basis you, know it's a lot of money
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: that they're kind, of you, feel playing around with Their.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Are you telling me long that a billion dollars is
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: a lot of money in your?
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Book, yeah imagine, That like this number that's so large
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: the human brain literally can't even. Understand. Imagine and yet
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: when we drop that three billion down to two billion,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: dollars we're still only seeing like a three point drop
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: in the, score two or three. Points so from about
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: ninety six to about a ninety four or ninety three three.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: Points that's. It if they were only going to cheat
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: by inflating their student instructional expenditures by a, billion they
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: only get a three point jump. Exactly, okay, right it's
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: good to.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Know which sounds, crazy, Right like that's a lot of
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: money to not really make a big difference in your. Score.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah so if you're the president Of columbia AND i
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: come to you AND i say we can drop an
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: imaginary billion into this and we're only getting three, points you're, Saying,
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: okay But i'm. Not it's not floating your.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Boat, yeah it doesn't seem like a very high return.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Rate you know What i'm, saying it's.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: Gratuitous it's just Like George santos And baruke volleyball in.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: Retrospect that was their, error wasn't. It they shouldn't have
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: done the bill. Done the billion dollar thing was so
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: obvious to At, regis and it gave them such a small. Payoff,
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: yeah why if you're trying to get away with some,
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: shenanigans would.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: You it's a ridiculous, overstatement like it's more than it's
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: larger than the corresponding figures For, Harvard, yale And princeton.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: COMBINED i, know, Bananas like it's so.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: Bananas here's my you know what my interpretation. Is so
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: there's like some dude man or woman is charged with
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: coming up with a strategy and that that's the one
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: they do. Last so it's like it's It's monday morning
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: at three. Am they got a hand in their proposal
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: for hacking THE Us. News by nine, am they've been
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: up for forty eight. Hours they've done all the hard,
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: stuff and they're, like f let's just throw it an
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: extra bill on this they why.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Not throw in a few extra?
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: Zeros the bar set By George santos was very. High
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: The Pushkin prize committee Believes columbia met it okay criteria number.
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: Two the second thing our, Namesake George santos teaches us
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: is that you have to show as little remorse as.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: Possible when the furer over his lies was at its,
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: peak he was.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: UNRUFFLED i don't understand where these allegations come. From, Oh
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: George santels lives in a fantasy world or whatever it
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: is that they're trying to elude, there because it's just
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: people who know me know that that's just not the.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: Case people who know, me which is, hilarious, right because
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: the whole reason there was a controversy Over George santos
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: is that he wouldn't tell us who he. Was at some,
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: point some enterprising journalists counted seven different names That santos
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: has used over the years For Pushkin prize. Consideration we
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: need that kind of. Morselessness let me give you WHAT
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: i think is a relevant. Counterexample it Concerns Temple university's
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: Online Business. School the story goes the dean of the
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: b school, there a man Named Mosha, pori was upset
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: about his school's LOW Us news, ranking so he sends
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: several of his underlings To, washington D. C to complain
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: to THE Us news rankings, team and in the course
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: of that, MEETING Us news let slip that they don't
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: actually check any of the data that schools send. Them
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: so the underlings report this back To, mosha And mosha's, like,
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: GREAT i guess there's no state troopers on this stretch
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: of the university Prestige. Highway so he hires a data.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: Scientist they figure out that what really matters for online
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: business schools is what percentage of the school's incoming class
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: has taken THE. Gmat In temple's, case it's something like nineteen.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: Percent So mosha changes that number to one hundred, percent
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: And Vola temple's Online business school faults to number one
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: in THE Us News online B school. Rankings now you
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: hear that story and you say to, yourself why Wasn't
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: mosha up for a pushkin? Price and believe, me we
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: thought long and hard about his. NOMINATION i, Mean mosha
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: was convicted of fraud and sentenced to fourteen. Months he
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: committed a.
• 30:32
  Speaker 9: Crime the charges Against parat were not just simply that
• 30:38
  Speaker 9: he DEFRAUDED Us News, rankings but that he defrauded applicants
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: to the, school students at the, school and, donors all
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: of whom look at the rankings and making their decision
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: about where to direct their.
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: Money That's Jennifer, williams who was in THE Us attorney's
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: office In philadelphia at the time of The temple.
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: Case and in, fact the, scheme as charged in the,
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: indictment was very. Successful not only did the rankings improve,
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: dramatically but the enrollment went way up and the total
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: amount of tuition That temple was able to get due
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: to the increased enrollment was almost forty million dollars over
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: the course of several. Years so that is the goal
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: of the. Fraud that's what made this a.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: Crime so why Doesn't temple get The Sentos award, because
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: and this is, crucial the school has too much Remorse
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: when word leaks out About moshess. Shedanigans the school hires
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: a big name outside law, Firm Jones day to. Investigate
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: the university pays out millions of dollars in damages to
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: the students who enrolled thinking they were getting a degree
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: from the number one rank school in the. Country it
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: Was temple who turned In mosha to the. Authorities this
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: is not How columbia behaved at. All thaddeus releases his
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: report On february twenty, eighth twenty twenty, two And columbia
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: responds with a press release from the school's provost On june,
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: thirtieth months. Later i'm. Quoting columbia has long conducted what
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: we believe to be a thorough process for gathering and
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: reporting institutional, data but we are now closely reviewing our
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: processes in light of the questions. Raised the ongoing review
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: is a matter of. Integrity we will take no shortcuts
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: in getting it. Right temple, hired one of the world's
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: biggest law. Firms colombia launched a.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Review the approach has been just to say as little as,
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: possible try to attract as little, attention and wait for
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: the storm to blow.
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: Over you're saying that no member of the administration has
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: reached out to you since you published that.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Article Good. God, no, wait that's. Nuts that's. Nuts i'm
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: glad you think. SO i asked the question at a faculty.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Meeting did the review That columbia conducted explore the question
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: of intent about whether you know these falsehoods were provided?
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: Intentionally did anyone know that they were? False and if so,
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: who and the answer, was, well, no our review did
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: not look into that. Question so it's clear to me
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: that the review was not seriously intended to get to
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: the bottom of the. Matter was not a review.
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: Because The santos criteria are so. RIGOROUS i REALIZED i
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: needed to take further steps to see If columbia's remorselessness
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: remained in. Place, FIRST i waited to see whether they
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: would update The june thirtieth press. RELEASE i, waited waited
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: six months, past so THEN i DECIDED i needed to
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: contact them. DIRECTLY i sent an, email asked for an
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: interview with the. Provost, waited, waited, waited until finally someone
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: in the media relations department emailed me back with a
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: link to the press release Of june. Thirtieth we are
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: not commenting beyond the statements issued, BELOW i was. Told
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: SO i respond BECAUSE i don't want some blogger down
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: the line SAYING i rush to judgment on the remorselessness.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: Criteria are you? SURE i write. BACK i talk About Michael,
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: THADDEUS i tell him About lauren and her computer. MODEL
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: i tell him About Jennifer williams talking about The temple.
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: Case are you? Sure for the university not to comment
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: under these, circumstances, will from your, perspective be. Problematic don't
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: you THINK a week, PASSES i get an email, Back
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: we're working on. IT a month. Passes finally get another,
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: email essentially restating the original press. RELEASE i print out
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: the statement and run around the office holding it. HIGH
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: i can't believe. It we have met the formal standard for.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Remorselessness one last part of. Me you have to be
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: reckless to win A pushkin. Prize your lines have to
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: put you in potential jeopardy if if you want to
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: win one of our coveted gold. Statuettes we have, gratuitousness
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: we have, Remorselessness but do we have? Recklessness we? Do
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: and to say, HOW i need to be serious for a.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: SECOND i actually Love. COLUMBIA i think it's an extraordinary
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: place full of extraordinary. PEOPLE i can't tell you how
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: many Times i've sat in the office of some professor
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: At columbia and had the world opened up for. ME
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: i Love, columbia even THOUGH i Know columbia will never
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: Be princeton Or. Harvard they're never going to have fifty
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: billion dollars in the, bank and without fifty billion dollars
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: in the. Bank it's awfully hard to climb to the
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: top of THE Us news. Rankings but The president Of
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: columbia ought to be able to stand up and, say
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: we are the pre eminent institution of learning in the
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: greatest city in the, world and if we have lots
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: of part time, faculty it's because we are drawing on
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: the resources of amazing people who spend their working days
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: On broadway Or Madison avenue Or Wall. Street and if
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: our classes are, large it just means that every student
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: has the privilege of rubbing shoulders with lots of other
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: curious and willing. Students and by the, way if you
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: are someone who believes at the best measure of a
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: university's intellectual vitality is how much money it has in the,
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: bank or what percentage of its faculty have, PhDs or
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: how many students are in its, classes Then columbia is
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: probably going to be wasted on. You The president Of
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: columbia ought to be able to stand up and explain
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: to the world What columbia is and what it stands.
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: For but he didn't do, that and his school got
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: consumed with succeeding at a rankings game that is morally
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: and intellectually bankrupt some jackass in The columbia. Administration AND
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: i have no idea who it, was BUT i hope
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: they are found out and made to do one thousand
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: hours of community service teaching arithmetic to some first. Grader
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: that jackass decided to cook the. Books and now what
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: do we have a school that has broken the most
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: fundamental of promises.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: To its own.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: Community let me quote to you from The Columbia University
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: code Of, conduct The Ethical. Standard columbia holds its own
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: students to, falsification, forgery or misrepresentation of information to any
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: university official in order to gain an unfair academic advantage
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: in coursework or lab work on any, application, petition or
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: documents submitted to the university is. Prohibited this, includes but
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: is not limited, to falsifying information on a, resume fabrication
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: of credentials or academic, records misrepresenting one's own, research and
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: providing false or misleading. Information ladies and, GENTLEMEN i give
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: you the winner of The Pushkin prize for, gratuitous, remorseless
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: and recklessly deceptive self. Promotion this episode Of Revisionist history
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: was produced By Kiara powell With Leemingestou Ben Adafh haffrey
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: And Jacob. Smith original scoring By Luis, skara fact checking
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: By Kishelle williams And Tolly. Emlin our showrunner Is Peter,
• 38:52
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  Speaker 6: special things To columbia's Own Michael, fatius who not only
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: did the research that inspired this, episode but also made
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: a joke WHEN i was talking to him that inspired
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: name of our first Ever Santos Memorial. Prize there's a
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: PostScript to this. Story On june, sixth two days before
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: this episode, Aired Columbia university made an announcement they were
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: dropping out of THE Us News undergraduate, rankings becoming the
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: FIRST Ivy league school to abandon THE Us news methodology
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: that did so much to make THE Ivy league THE Ivy.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: League the press, release like so many of the press
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: releases issued By columbia over the course of this, controversy
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: read like it was dictated by a room of ten
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: thousand dollars an hour attorneys on a zoom call from Midtown.
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: Manhattan in a, Statement columbia said that in response to
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: the allegations of, cheating it had, quote conducted an exhaustive internal,
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: review and where errors were, confirmed is shoot public corrections
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: and made changes to the collection methodologies that led to the.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: INACCURACIES i got an email From Michael thaddeus almost. Immediately
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: this is completely, untrue he. Wrote columbia has never corrected
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: the false information it, provided probably over many, years TO
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: Us news about class sizes or about proportion of full time.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: Faculty for. Example what it did was admit in a
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: general way to quote, outdated end or incorrect methodologies and
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: acknowledged that quote class sized data was previously reported incorrectly,
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: unquote but it never corrected the false, figures nor has
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: it even specified which figures were false or for how.
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: Long end of.
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: Quote oh and by the, way the school's, provost whose
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: office is responsible for its submissions TO Us, news suddenly
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: announced that she was resigning after an unusually short term.
• 41:09
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• 41:13
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