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Molly Mae and Tommy Fury’s Controversial Baby Name Reveal · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Amy Torver. And I'm Sophie Torver. And coming up on
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  Speaker 1: today's show, Molly May and Tommy Fury's controversial baby name reveal.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough hits out at claims she's moved on too quick.
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  Speaker 1: Isabel Mather's fiance's debilitating health issue. Taylor Swift's courtside antics
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  Speaker 1: at the Knicks game. And Justin McKeon pleads guilty to fraud.
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  Speaker 1: But first, Soph, I am surprised that Kate has allowed
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  Speaker 1: you and I to be back together on the mics,
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  Speaker 1: especially after our subs episode last week. When we promoted
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  Speaker 1: the episode, we said we went rogue and we really
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  Speaker 1: did go rogue. I mean, we were answering questions that
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  Speaker 1: We will be giving Kate the ability to rebut what
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  Speaker 1: we actually said in that episode. Oh, she was absolutely
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  Speaker 1: fuming though. I just, I totally had forgotten what we said.
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  Speaker 1: It was sort of a bit like word vomit. And
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  Speaker 1: then I get this huge message from her about how
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  Speaker 1: she is shocked and appalled that something like that would
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  Speaker 1: go live. And That, you know, she can't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: And of course she tried to get our mum involved
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  Speaker 1: who said she was also surprised. Poor mum. It was
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  Speaker 1: hilarious because someone in our Facebook community, I think it
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  Speaker 1: was OG listener Rodney, he wrote that he would have
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  Speaker 1: loved to have seen the text message exchange that went down.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think any money or any type of, or
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  Speaker 1: actually maybe if Hilary Duff agrees to go on the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: we will put that message exchange up. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's good for anyone if those messages see the light
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  Speaker 1: of day. Now, Amy, I have a bone to pick
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  Speaker 1: with you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Could you please? I'm getting an ick from you saying
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  Speaker 1: the word hilarious. I've noticed it in a couple of
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  Speaker 1: episodes now. You kind of say it with a Melbourne accent.
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  Speaker 1: You really pronounce the A. It's hilarious. Way to offend
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  Speaker 1: the majority of our listeners who are from Melbourne. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it's fine for them to say it,
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  Speaker 1: but you're actually from Adelaide, so you're not speaking in
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  Speaker 1: our sort of. Well, I would love to hear if
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  Speaker 1: anyone else is triggered by that. This is for my
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  Speaker 1: new baby born son, Midas. We finally know the name
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  Speaker 1: of Molly Mae and Tommy Fury's newborn son. Nine days
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  Speaker 1: on from announcing the birth of their second child, Tommy
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  Speaker 1: unveiled the name Midas on his boxer shorts ahead of
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  Speaker 1: his fight with Eddie Hall on Saturday night. Sophie, as
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  Speaker 1: a huge stan of Molly Mae, I need your thoughts. Look,
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  Speaker 1: it was actually the first thing I saw online when
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  Speaker 1: I woke up on Sunday morning and I was so
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  Speaker 1: quick to screenshot it and share it to Outspoken because
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of listeners have been following along
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  Speaker 1: They need us to break the news first because we've
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  Speaker 1: been on a bit of a journey together. And I
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  Speaker 1: have to say, I was surprised by the name. Not
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  Speaker 1: surprised in the sense that I knew it would be
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  Speaker 1: unusual and something I haven't heard before, but I was
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  Speaker 1: a little bit confused because I got a real scare.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as I uploaded it, I got a message
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  Speaker 1: from Kate saying, Sophie, that's a brand name. You've gotten
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  Speaker 1: it wrong. That's just a brand name that's on his boxes.
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  Speaker 1: That's not the name of the kid. And I almost
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  Speaker 1: deleted it. And I was like, hold on a second,
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  Speaker 1: because in Australia, I think it's actually pronounced Midas is
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  Speaker 1: the brand. Is it Midas? It's a mechanic. And it's
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  Speaker 1: also a shoe brand. Well, remember Molly warned that there
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  Speaker 1: was going to be some confusion over the pronunciation. She
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  Speaker 1: said that she told a number of friends and they'd
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  Speaker 1: all pronounced it quite differently. Yeah, but Midas, that is
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  Speaker 1: a very well-known mechanic. So a lot of Aussies have
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  Speaker 1: been jumping on being like, hold on, this name isn't
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  Speaker 1: as fancy as they seem to think it is. Now
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  Speaker 1: the name comes from a mythological king who turns everything
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  Speaker 1: he touches into gold. And I just think that this
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  Speaker 1: is the perfect backstory for an up-and-coming boxer. I think
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  Speaker 1: that they had this very much in mind when they
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  Speaker 1: came up with the name. I agree with you. I
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  Speaker 1: think since they found out that this baby was going
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  Speaker 1: to be a boy, Tommy has gone, he's going to
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  Speaker 1: follow in my footsteps. We need a really good name.
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  Speaker 1: And what a fantastic name for a boxer. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Molly was saying that Midas went really well with Fury
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  Speaker 1: as well. I agree. I was a little bit, to
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  Speaker 1: be honest, I was a little bit disappointed by the name.
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  Speaker 1: I had seen it doing the rounds on TikTok. There
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  Speaker 1: were rumours that Tommy's dad had let slip for the
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  Speaker 1: past week. Apparently he was telling everybody the name was Midas.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the reason why so many news publications are
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  Speaker 1: were also speculating that that was going to be the name.
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  Speaker 1: How pissed off would you be? You know, you've done
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  Speaker 1: everything to keep it under wraps. You've kept the suspense up.
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  Speaker 1: You've drip fed us the gender. You're waiting to make
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  Speaker 1: this grand reveal at Tommy's fight. And then your father-in-law
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  Speaker 1: is just telling everyone that will listen. What is it
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  Speaker 1: with dads wanting to do that? I know our dad
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  Speaker 1: was so keen. Like as soon as I gave birth
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  Speaker 1: to Harry, he's like, when can I put it up
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  Speaker 1: on Facebook? And I was like, dad, I'm still in
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  Speaker 1: hospital and I just want to get a nice family
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  Speaker 1: photo together. for days, for days. Can I announce it? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm on a media ban on Facebook. It's like, why?
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  Speaker 1: Why can't you wait for the person to announce their
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  Speaker 1: own news? Well, actually, we were at a baby shower
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  Speaker 1: over the weekend and Kate's father-in-law He got up to
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  Speaker 1: do a speech, which was lovely, but he then said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: am I allowed to say the name? And they're all like, no.
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  Speaker 1: How did you feel about the fact that it was
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  Speaker 1: just Tommy who announced the name? Like I know Molly
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  Speaker 1: was in the crowd, but it was all very much
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  Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, it's obvious there was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: strategy behind this name reveal, which doesn't sit as well
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  Speaker 1: with me. I mean, it's quite clear that this is
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  Speaker 1: a business decision for him because he told media a
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  Speaker 1: few days ago that the name would be revealed at
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  Speaker 1: his fight and And it definitely drummed up a lot
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  Speaker 1: of attention for it. A lot more extra eyeballs were
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  Speaker 1: on that game. I saw a lot of TikToks of
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  Speaker 1: women who never watch fighting, literally tuning in because they
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to be the first to see the name.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously, the more people who tune in, the more
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  Speaker 1: money the sport makes, the more money he makes. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it did seem to be very strategic. He
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  Speaker 1: was also posting a lot of links on his Instagram stories.
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  Speaker 1: for people to pay to watch the fight. So it's
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  Speaker 1: clear that he was trying to make as much money
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  Speaker 1: as possible. I mean, perhaps he's thinking, oh, if I'm
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  Speaker 1: in this training camp whilst my son is a newborn,
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  Speaker 1: I need to make it worth it on a monetary sense. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: surely he must have been incentivised to do this. I'm
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  Speaker 1: guessing he gets a larger cut of the profits if
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  Speaker 1: more people pay for the fight. Yeah, I'm not really
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  Speaker 1: sure how it works. I mean, it's sort of like
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  Speaker 1: the modern day magazine spread. Instead of giving a magazine
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  Speaker 1: the exclusive, he's giving... The boxing world, the exclusive. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it does make sense for him to announce it because
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  Speaker 1: it's quite clear that he was the one pushing for
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  Speaker 1: a second child and he really wanted a boy. So
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  Speaker 1: I think for him, this is a pretty big moment
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  Speaker 1: because I think he is expecting his son to follow
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  Speaker 1: in his footsteps. So that is why I think this
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  Speaker 1: name was more so about him than it was about Molly.
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  Speaker 1: It just cracks me up so much that so many
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  Speaker 1: of the men watching the fight would have pretended like
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  Speaker 1: they didn't give a shit what the name was. And
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  Speaker 1: then they had to sit there with their girlfriends craning
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  Speaker 1: over them as Tommy Fury dances on stage for like
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  Speaker 1: two minutes with Midas across him. Like just fucking hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: I love that he also had Bambi on the back
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  Speaker 1: as well, keeping it fair. I mean, at one point
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  Speaker 1: he had their... What was the elephant called again? I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember. Ellie Belly. Ellie Belly, yeah. Ellie Belly, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So she used to be on all of his boxing gear.
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  Speaker 1: The Ellie Belly logo was next to Bambi's name. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: he's keeping it fair between all three of them. What
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about though is the fact that
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  Speaker 1: Molly May was at this match, what, like a week
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  Speaker 1: after having a child. And not only was she there,
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  Speaker 1: she was looking incredible. She was wearing a white tight
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  Speaker 1: dress that, It would have been every woman's nightmare. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of listeners were sliding into our DM saying, how
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  Speaker 1: is she wearing white this close to giving birth? Because
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  Speaker 1: how does she not bleed all over herself? My anxiety
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  Speaker 1: couldn't deal with it. I haven't worn white pants and
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  Speaker 1: had a period since watching that episode of Degrassi back
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  Speaker 1: in year nine where that poor girl's white pants got
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  Speaker 1: covered in blood. Like imagine being on that stage. There
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  Speaker 1: have been a lot of comparisons over the past couple
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  Speaker 1: of years to Molly Mae and Princess Diana due to
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  Speaker 1: the big breakup and it being sort of rolling coverage
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  Speaker 1: in the UK. it sort of reminded me of a
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  Speaker 1: princess just being put out to the public so soon
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  Speaker 1: after giving birth and having to look perfect. Because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there would have been a lot of smoke and mirrors
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  Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes. Like, I just think that
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  Speaker 1: there was probably a lot of stress on her to
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  Speaker 1: come out and look good after that. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: bad for her. That would have been an absolute nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: And also she would have known that everyone would be
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  Speaker 1: commenting one about the name what she looked like. I've
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  Speaker 1: already seen so many TikToks going viral of interactions between
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  Speaker 1: Tommy and Molly after the fight and everyone's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't look that into her. It's like he has
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  Speaker 1: just stepped out of the ring. He's sweaty AF and
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  Speaker 1: she probably didn't want him touching her white dress. She
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  Speaker 1: would have felt extra pressure as well because it was
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  Speaker 1: only a few weeks ago that she got trolled on
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  Speaker 1: TikTok for her appearance at Venezuela's wedding when she obviously
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  Speaker 1: had some visible roots and a black outfit, which was
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: apparently a big faux pas. Well, these people were speculating.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, maybe the baby was born three to four
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago because we don't know the specific date. Just
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  Speaker 1: going back to the name quickly, we touched on the
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  Speaker 1: fact that Midas is a shoe brand and also a
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  Speaker 1: tie brand. In Manchester, where Molly and Tommy are from,
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  Speaker 1: it's also the acronym of the Manchester Integrated Drug and
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  Speaker 1: Alcohol Service. So a lot of people from Manchester were
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  Speaker 1: having a laugh about that. They're like, no way. People
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  Speaker 1: were always going to find something like that, have a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a laugh about, weren't they? I mean, especially
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  Speaker 1: when it's a bit of an unusual name. It was
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  Speaker 1: really funny because one of our listeners wrote in and
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  Speaker 1: said that they actually preferred Bambino, which cracked me up. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I think in the long run, Midas will grow on
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  Speaker 1: a lot of us. Now getting back to Tommy's fight,
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  Speaker 1: Some of his comments leading into it have annoyed a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Molly's fans, including myself. There is a clip
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  Speaker 1: of him talking about how he needed Molly to essentially
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  Speaker 1: leave him alone for 10 weeks while he trained for
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  Speaker 1: the fight. Now, those 10 weeks happened to be when
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  Speaker 1: she was heavily pregnant and then gave birth, not to
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  Speaker 1: mention the first week of the newborn son's life. And
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  Speaker 1: it feels like history repeating itself because when Molly gave
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  Speaker 1: birth to Bambi in 2023, Tommy was fighting Jake Paul. Now,
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  Speaker 1: let's take a listen to what Tommy said in the
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  Speaker 1: lead up to his fight. I'm missing Molly.
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: I'm missing Molly. I always miss them, don't you, by
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day? Just keep having a nice
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: life and nice holidays and nice things and it's got
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  Speaker 2: to be done. Do you know what I mean? And
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  Speaker 2: it's good because she understands that and she's never given
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  Speaker 2: me a problem in training camp, not once. And that's
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  Speaker 2: all I'm asked.
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  Speaker 1: For, peace.
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  Speaker 2: For a good 10 weeks so I can train, get
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  Speaker 2: a job done, come on.
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  Speaker 1: The weirdest thing to me was the journalist simply asked him,
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  Speaker 1: are you missing Molly? He could have just said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really missing her and the babies. But, you know,
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  Speaker 1: excited for this boxing match. He didn't have to go
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  Speaker 1: into the fact that he had to be there for
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  Speaker 1: the nice, you know, so they could have nice holidays
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  Speaker 1: and all of that sort of stuff. It was just bizarre. Also, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: just give me some peace. The woman's pregnant. She needs
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  Speaker 1: your support. I mean, this clip really got under my
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  Speaker 1: skin because it sort of gave off this vibe that
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  Speaker 1: Molly is just this subservient wife waiting at home for Tommy.
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  Speaker 1: when in reality, she earns more money than him. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: her estimated net worth is $ 20 million. She featured in Forbes'
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  Speaker 1: Under 30 last year. And I mean, it would have
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: been bolstered even more with her recent Adidas deal and
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  Speaker 1: also the fact that her clothing brand, Maybe, is doing
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  Speaker 1: exceptionally well. And let's remember that when she first launched Maybe,
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  Speaker 1: and it was meant to be all about her and
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  Speaker 1: her brand, did she have a few weeks of quiet?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: She had the huge breakup going on with Tommy Fury.
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  Speaker 1: When has he ever let her have a moment to herself?
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  Speaker 1: It's absolutely ridiculous. Look, to be fair, I think that
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: whole debacle was actually quite good for her clothing brand
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  Speaker 1: and got a lot of people buying. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you look at Tommy's net worth, he is estimated
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  Speaker 1: to be worth $ 10 million. So that's half of what
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  Speaker 1: Molly is. He apparently had his biggest payday on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: So he earned 2.5 million pounds before sponsorship for the fight.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, obviously he's earned a lot of money
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  Speaker 1: off it. but could he just work on the timing
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  Speaker 1: a little bit? Why does it always have to be
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  Speaker 1: around the time that his child's born? I also don't
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  Speaker 1: think it helps that there's another awkward clip of Tommy
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  Speaker 1: circulating on TikTok. So in this video, he's at a
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  Speaker 1: press conference and a journalist asks him to choose between
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  Speaker 1: Molly Mae and boxing. And what cracked me up is
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: they actually had points of reference on the table. So
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: they had a boxing glove to symbolize boxing, of course.
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  Speaker 1: And then they had their own Ellie Belly on the
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  Speaker 1: table to symbolise Molly Mae. Like the thought of the
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  Speaker 1: journalist having to go down and find their own Ellie Belly.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's take a listen to what Tommy said.
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  Speaker 2: That is a tough one, isn't it? Your two loves really,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it? Your boxing life and then I suppose the
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: start of that Love Island journey, but really your family life, Molly, everything.
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  Speaker 2: You just had another baby as well. Yeah, it's definitely
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  Speaker 2: a tough one because without this, I probably wouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: gone on the show. And then obviously this is my
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: whole life. So one's led to the other. So to
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  Speaker 2: be honest with you, they are just as important, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as each other. But right now, two kids in, years in,
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  Speaker 2: I would say it's got to be this, you know, nothing,
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  Speaker 2: no sport or anything is more important than your family
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  Speaker 2: and your kids because everything that you do now is
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  Speaker 2: for them. And before it was just this. But then
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  Speaker 2: when this comes along, it's a no contest.
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  Speaker 1: I think he took way too long to make his decision.
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  Speaker 1: It should have immediately been Molly Mae. I mean, one
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  Speaker 1: of the top comments on TikTok was, shouldn't be a
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  Speaker 1: tough choice, which got over 14,000 likes. I know who
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  Speaker 1: I'd be picking. I know. It was so awkward, especially
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  Speaker 1: when he's like, well, you couldn't have this without this.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, oh my God, just say. It's like, mate,
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't the question. The mother of your child is
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: more important to you, for goodness sake. I mean, can
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  Speaker 1: you imagine the hormones that are racing through her body
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  Speaker 1: when she's just had a child? Like, I can just
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  Speaker 1: imagine Zoe Ray, Molly's sister, watching that just I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to get him. But also is this, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: we've spoken before about how men take questions so literally.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: Like just answer from the emotional perspective, your wife, well,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: your fiance. Isabel Mather's fiance, Harry, has bravely opened up
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: about a debilitating health issue he's been struggling with for
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: the last two years. The model shared the news just
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: two weeks out from one of his biggest surgeries to
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: help solve the issue. Now, this isn't the first time
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: that we have featured Harry on the podcast. So back
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: in February, we discussed the full circle moment of his
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: engagement to Isabel Mathis. So they actually first met on
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Instagram after he commented under one of her photos saying,
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: marry me. A few months earlier, we also spoke about
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: how he and Isabel had recently purchased fellow influencer Ellie
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Watson's Gold Coast Hinterland Mansion for over $ 5 million. So
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: as an outsider, things looked really great in their life.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: It looked like they were living the dream, but unfortunately
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. So this week he opened up
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: on his Instagram story about a chronic health issue that's
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: greatly been impacting his life. So back in May 2024,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: he went to hospital with what he described as a
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: literal pain in the ass. So he was diagnosed with
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: a perineal abscess However, that has now developed into a
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: chronic complex anal fistula that runs through his internal and
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: external sphincter muscles. Now, thankfully, this condition is not life-threatening,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: but obviously it can be really debilitating and painful. Now,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Harry said he's had multiple surgeries and procedures over the
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: last two years, but there is still no finish line
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: in sight. Now, as we mentioned, he is set to
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: have his biggest surgery soon, which comes with significant risks.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: I just take my hat off to him for opening
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: up about this though, because he said that this has
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: been very difficult for him to talk about publicly. He
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: wrote that he's been reluctant to talk about it because
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable, emasculating and invasive. He wanted to say that
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: it's been a massive knock to his confidence too. He
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: said there's been times when he can't walk properly, can't
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: stand upright, sit comfortably and has to wear an adult
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: diaper because of constant drainage problems. from the wound. That
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: is just horrendous. That's awful. And good on him for
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: talking about it because there would be so many other
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: men who experience similar conditions to this or things that
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: they might deem as embarrassing. The fact that he's opened
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: up about that will give other people the confidence to
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: do so. I think it's really amazing that he's opened
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: up about it, Amy, because as you say, I'm sure
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: that there are many people who can relate to what
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: he's going through and also that feeling of embarrassment around it.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of amazing women like Sophie Edwards
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and also Kelly Finlayson talking about their experience with bowel
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: cancer and having to wear adult nappies. And it's just
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: something that people shouldn't be ashamed of. And it's really
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: important to open up the conversation about these things, because
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: if people are too embarrassed to talk about it, then
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: they're not going to get treatment for it. Now, it
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: seems like Harry's announcement was in response to questions he's
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: been receiving about his apparel business, St. Coa. So he
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: admitted it's part of the reason why he and his
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: business have gone quiet. but said he still managed to
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: grow the brand, get a warehouse, buy his dream home
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: and propose to his dream woman while he's been dealing
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: with his health issues. As you said, no one would
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: have known any of this was going on. Well, he
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: did say that he had planned to talk about it
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: when he was over the condition, but said it just
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: never seemed to be over. Now, in some good news,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: he said he's back working at his business and has
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: a studio opening soon. Now off the back of Harry's update,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Isabel shared her own with her 2 million followers. So
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: she said Harry's health issues have been the reason why
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: she's been quiet over the last couple of years. She
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: said watching her fiance go through this has changed her
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: and been the hardest years of her life. She said
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: it caused her to experience anxiety for the first time
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: in her life. It just sounds like it's been a
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: really tough time for them. And I just hope that
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: he's on his way to recovery because this just sounds
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: horrendous to be dealing with. Do you know that healing
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: isn't measured by how long you stay single? Do you
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: know that? Tammy Hembrough has hit out at claims she's
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: moved on too quickly following her divorce from Matt Sikowsky.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: The OG influencer claims her latest relationship with 23-year-old model
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Grace and Tijuana has helped her heal, so much so
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: the couple have even discussed having children together. Oh, my goodness.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: This is a bit of a bombshell, isn't it? Now,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: she was very defensive in her latest TikTok. And it
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: comes off the back of Grayson clapping back at her
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: followers just last week. To refresh your memories, he uploaded
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: a photo alongside Tammy and wrote, you wouldn't get it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: And it's kind of giving similar vibes to her past
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: relationship with Matt Sikowsky where it's sort of us against
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: them mentality. Everyone's got it wrong about us. Because she
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: is putting across this view on TikTok that she's very
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: certain of her new boyfriend despite the large age difference. Yeah.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: So in a recent TikTok, she labeled him the right
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: person with the right timing and the right everything. You
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: can just tell that her audience are apprehensive about Grayson.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: So the top comment on her TikTok was, Tammy, we
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: are tired and so am I. I feel like every
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: week there is something going on with these two. Well,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: someone else wrote, what is this, 10th time lucky? To
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: which Tammy responded, imagine letting previous heartbreak stop you from
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: falling in love. Now, another person commented, until it's not
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: with a laughing face, to which Tammy replied, and if
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: it's not, I'll survive that too. You can tell that
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Tammy and Grayson are trying to put on this united
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: front because they've been replying to a lot of their
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: naysayers with the same type of comments. So Grayson shared
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: a video walking hand in hand with Tammy with the caption,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: just want to make this girl the happiest she's ever been. Now,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Tammy wrote under this video, what the hell? You're so cute. Now,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Grayson then shared another video of the couple in a
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: photo booth with the caption, the intimacy is the fact
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: that nobody knows how our relationship really is. If you
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: really feel that way, why can't you just tell her
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: that instead of having to put it up publicly? Like
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: write it in a letter, send it to her as
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: a text. Why do you have to put it up?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: You're putting it up because you've got something to gain
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: out of it. You're trying to look like a good guy.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: You're trying to gain a following by sharing about your
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: famous girlfriend. Like, I don't think this is as nice
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: and cute as Tammy thinks it is. What other normal
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: 23-year-old guy would be posting like this on TikTok about
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a girl that he's dating? Like most 23-year-olds don't even
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: want to say that they're in a committed relationship. Like
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: they're too busy playing in the field. Like this is
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: not real life. No. Well, someone wrote, bro, your body
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: language has been very telling. So let's see. to which
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Grayson replied, haha, I do apologize. I have really weird
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: body language, but I assure you, I love her very much.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: It's so weird. Someone else commented, protect her man. She
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: just wanted a love story, to which Grayson replied, I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: got you. I can't even pronounce that properly. I got you.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Like the choo-choo-choos you on The Simpsons, Valentine's Day. Oh
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: my God. They really are trying to prove their relationship,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: aren't they? I mean, The video racked up 890,000 views, which,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, he'd be absolutely stoked about. That's what he
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: was trying to generate. You know, they often say that
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the people who shout about their relationships the most on
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: social media are the ones in the most awful relationships.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I hope that's not the case for Tammy. I,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: like everyone else, want to see Tammy in a lovely relationship,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: but I'm just concerned, like we're all concerned. Well, despite
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: these desperate attempts to prove to everyone how in love
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: they are, Tammy uploaded a very defensive TikTok on Thursday
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: telling her followers that healing and falling in love aren't
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: mutually exclusive. Let's take a listen to some of what
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: she said.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I get the comment all the time, girl, you need
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: to stay single and heal. Here's my thoughts on that
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: because I find it very interesting because I was single
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: a year after my last breakup, right?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And The thing for.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Me is that healing is not like there's not some
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: magical finish line where you're like, oh, yeah, I'm healed.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Like that does not exist.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: So to think that healing and like falling in love
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: are mutually exclusive, I.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Just find that crazy. I find it funny that she
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: thinks being single for a year is like this huge
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: length of time. Well, she did go on to say
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that there was a period of time where she was
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: single for six years. I mean, I think it was
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: from the age of zero to six. I'm just joking.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: But no, so she said that she learnt more in
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the year she was single after her last relationship than
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: she did in the six years that she was single. Sorry.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: But what did she learn? Because she literally jumped into
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: a relationship with Matt Zukowski, got engaged after a couple
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: of weeks and was in what she describes as a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: toxic relationship. What did she learn? I'm so confused. She
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: was very defensive though in this video. I mean she
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: does get defensive about the guy. Like she gets deep
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: in these relationships. I mean– Well, it seems like things
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: have turned serious because as we touched on, Tammy is
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: already talking about babies. So during an interview with Nine.com,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: she said, I always said I would never have more
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: kids because I'm like, I've been there, done that, I've
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: done the most. But my partner's never had kids. So
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you want me to give you some babies?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: He is a kid. She said, I love being a
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: mama and I feel like if it feels right, I'm
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: not saying yes, no, nothing. It was a big no
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: for a minute there. I guess it just depends on
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the person. Well, that's one way to get out of
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the honeymoon period very quickly is by popping out another child. Grayson,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: please go listen to the mum's group, Grayson, please. I mean,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: they're not saying that they're going to have a baby
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: right away, but obviously they've been discussing it. Tammy also
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: revealed that Grayson has the tick of approval from her
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: mum and sisters, which I don't know if I believe this.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: So she said, I will always listen to my sisters
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and my friends and my mum and they all love
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: my new boyfriend. So that's good. Get him on the podcast.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: A little bit of BS there. Get him on the
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: sisters podcast. We want to see what the dynamic is like.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Tammy was really spilling her guts in this interview with
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Nine though. She even touched on that shady post that
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: her ex-fiance and baby daddy, Rhys Hawkins, did recently where
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: he made a dig about having bad taste in women.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: She said he called me right away after he posted
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and was like, by the way, that's not about you.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Why did she comment on the post then? Was that
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: just so that she could have him publicly write it's
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: not about you? Because everyone would have read into that
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: and gone, he's talking about Tammy. So that's why she
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: had to be like, cause she wrote something like a
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: bit rude, which prompted him to respond. Yeah. Well, she
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: went on to say with Reese, I'm always just being happy,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: keeping the peace, but me and him, we've been through
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: a lot together from years and years ago. So it's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: nice that we're friends now. We're at a good place.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: So when he posted that, I was like, excuse me,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: bit rude. And he was like, I'm sorry, that's definitely
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: not about you. Justin McKeon has pleaded guilty to fraud,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: admitting he stole almost half a million dollars from his
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: employer while working as head of finance for Rocket Brands. Amy,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: can you tell us more? Yeah, well, this is big
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: because this is the first time we have actually heard
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Justin admit guilt. So back in March, he was charged
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: with over 100 fraud-related charges. And this was after a
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: 15-month police investigation. Now, those charges have now effectively been
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: rolled into one larger charge. And that is of obtaining
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: financial advantage by deception. Now, this is pretty common in
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: fraud cases where there are lots of transactions. Now, we
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: did learn from this court appearance of sorts that Justin
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: is living back home in Perth because he appeared in
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: court via a video link. He is yet to be sentenced,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: but the charge carries a maximum penalty of 10 years
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: in jail. That is huge. I mean- The fact that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: he has pleaded guilty early, that is going to work
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: in his favor, as will his previously good character. Now,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Justin will remain on bail, but he must stay in
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Perth as he is barred from leaving the country. He
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: is also not allowed to contact any witnesses. Meanwhile, his
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: former employer, Rocket, is trying to recover the money that
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Justin stole. So he is currently facing bankruptcy proceedings because
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: he hasn't repaid the money back yet. We need to
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: talk about Taylor Swift's appearance at game four of the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: NBA finals. So she was courtside with the Hames sisters
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: to cheer on the Knicks. And the action off court
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: was just as interesting as it was on court. This
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: must have been an absolute nightmare for the Knicks ticketing
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: staff because there were that many celebrities trying to get
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: tickets from them that they had to rank the celebrities
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: in level of importance for who was going to sit
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: front row. Taylor Swift was of course front row. She
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: was never going to be anywhere but front row. And
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: it must have felt like such a moral victory for
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: her because photos came out showing her nemesis Scooter Braun
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: sitting sitting a couple of rows behind her. Now, this
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: is a big move, particularly because he was with his
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: mega famous girlfriend, Sydney Sweeney, who should have been front row.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine? She would have been so pissed off.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: What a kick in the dick to her. Well, they've
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: actually come out and claimed that they were sitting a
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: few rows back Because their family was there and they
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: wanted to sit with their family apparently. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bullshit.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: This is just them trying to save face and being like,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: we're just as famous as her. It's not because of
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift that we're back here. A lot of people,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: including Taylor's fans, have been saying that she was acting
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: quite obnoxious at the game. I mean, I love everything
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift does, so I am not saying this at all.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: But maybe she was hamming things up a little bit.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Because she knew that Scooter could see her on the
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: big screen. She's like, look who I'm here with. Oh,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: this would have been me. This would have been me.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Like someone is there that you hate and you've had
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: a bit of a moral victory and then you end
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: up acting like a bit of a dickhead.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: And like, I mean, it felt like she was on
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the wines, wasn't it? Like this was drunk Taylor in
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: full force. I love that she was there with the
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: girls this time instead of Travis Kelsey because she A
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: lot of people were saying that the way Travis acted
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: at that game was just not on the last Nick game.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Remember he downed a can of beer in front of
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: the camera and you could tell that Taylor looked a
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: little bit embarrassed by it. But to be fair, she
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: was kind of doing the same thing. You know what
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I mean? Like she was loud and proud and out
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: there drunk. Like maybe she's trying to be like, I
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: can do it too. And this isn't an ick to me.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: We're both on level playing fields here. I saw a
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: lot of people comparing when you go to a game
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: with your partner as opposed to your girlfriends and how
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: much extra fun you have with them as opposed to
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the old ball and chain. One thing that blew my
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: mind was that Taylor was sitting next to the actress
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: who plays Olivia Benson on Law and Order. And any
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift fan will know that Taylor loves her character
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: so much that she named her cat after her. It
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: must have been so much fun to be there because
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like Taylor is a bit of a shit stirrer.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So she would have loved the fact that she's seeing
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: these celebrities that she loves, but also these ones that
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: she hates because she loves nothing more than revenge. And
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: that's why I was extra surprised to see videos of
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: her hugging Kylie Jenner. So, I mean, maybe she thought
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: that Kylie Jenner was the lesser of two evils. So
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Kylie was sitting courtside with her boyfriend and actor, Timothee Chalamet.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: And after the game, Taylor and Kylie were spotted walking
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: past each other before stopping to hug. Now it was
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Taylor who actually initiated the interaction. So she waved at
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Kylie and reached out for a hug. And Kylie was
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: very friendly. She said, hi, and then said, how crazy.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the game was. Now this is of course off the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: back of Taylor's 10 year feud with her sister, Kim Kardashian.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was only a couple of years ago
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that she wrote that song about Kim as well. My
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: husband was asking me, he's like, so why was everyone
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: making such a big deal about Taylor Swift hugging Kylie Jenner? Like,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: why do they have beef? And I had to go
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: into the whole Kanye West song and blah, blah, blah. Look, dear,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: there's a big story here. I don't know how long
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: we've got, but yeah, I mean, everyone says that Kris
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Jenner works harder than the devil. So I feel like
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: she has been working nonstop behind the scenes to get
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: things right between Taylor and the Kardashians because it is
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: better for their brand. We need to talk about the
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: custom t-shirts that Taylor and her crew were wearing. So
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: They were rocking these blue T-shirts with ironic Knicks-related slogans
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: on them. So Taylors read Stevie Knicks. And it turns
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: out that these were a very cheap at-home job. So
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: one of the Hames sisters apparently bought the T-shirts for
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: $ 2. 99 and she screen-painted the phrases on them with orange ink.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I love this. Yeah. They looked really cool. How many
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: people are going to be recreating these? Well, it was
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: actually Taylor who requested the t-shirt. So she texted Alana
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Hain and said, look, I want to wear a Stevie
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Nicks shirt to the game and said, could you make
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: this happen? And Alana responded, I thought you would never ask.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: This is my dream. If this was me, if she'd
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: asked me, I would have rushed out and bought like
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the most expensive screen printing device to make these t-shirts
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: or I would have sat and hand sewn the shirts together.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Like I love that this girl's probably been like, oh,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: it didn't take me long at all. I only spent
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: $ 3 on a t-shirt. Babe, you're probably up all night
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: perfecting it. Now there has been a lot of commentary.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like in a lot of male circles that
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift isn't really a Knicks fan. She shouldn't be
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: at the game. making a dick of herself. It's because
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  Speaker 1: they're all so cut that she was at all of
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs games. They're like, this fucking person, now she's
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  Speaker 1: on our basketball. She's integrating herself into this. Like, what
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  Speaker 1: the hell? I think that's why she was being quite
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  Speaker 1: obnoxious though. I feel like it was a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a finger up at all of the male sports fans.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. It is quite funny because one of
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  Speaker 1: the NBA's commentators has had to come out and apologise
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  Speaker 1: for saying that Taylor wasn't a Knicks fan because, of course,
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  Speaker 1: when the statement was made, The Swifties came with their
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  Speaker 1: receipts and it turns out that Taylor declared her love
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  Speaker 1: for the Knicks publicly in a 2014 Time magazine interview.
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  Speaker 1: So she said she'd loved the team since she performed
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  Speaker 1: at a halftime kids' talent competition when she was 12.
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  Speaker 1: And at the time, she developed a friendship with a
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  Speaker 1: Knicks star whose name I cannot pronounce because I am
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  Speaker 1: not a Knicks fan. Do you know what? I reckon
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  Speaker 1: that's around the same time that the movie How to
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  Speaker 1: Lose a Guy in 10 Days came out and that's
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  Speaker 1: where Andy Anderson, the main character, famously went to the
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  Speaker 1: Knicks game and she asked Matthew McConaughey's character to go
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  Speaker 1: get her a Diet Coke just as they're about to
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  Speaker 1: shoot the winning score.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: That was when we were 12. I swear that came
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  Speaker 1: out when we were 12. So I feel like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people, I mean, we, if anyone asks us,
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  Speaker 1: Prior to the Knicks even winning, we used to say
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  Speaker 1: that the Knicks were our favourite because we got Knicks
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  Speaker 1: jerseys because we loved that movie so much. It's just
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  Speaker 1: a millennial moment, isn't it? I mean, Hayley Bieber was
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  Speaker 1: in the crowd rocking the vintage grey Knicks jumper that
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston wore on Friends. So there were a lot
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  Speaker 1: of pop culture moments within that game. Yeah, I reckon
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  Speaker 1: Kate sent a screenshot through and was like, where do
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I get this from? I've been looking for the Knicks hats.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's like the 47 brand, like the hat.
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  Speaker 2: Look.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon they'll be sold out. Yeah, yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: All the bandwagon jumpers. Excuse me, Sophie, I will have
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  Speaker 1: it that I have been a fan of the Knicks
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  Speaker 1: since I was 12. And if you go into my
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  Speaker 1: closet now. I have pretended to like them since I
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  Speaker 1: was 12. I actually have a Knicks jersey in my closet.
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  Speaker 1: So F you. Everyone wanted to cosplay being Andy Anderson,
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  Speaker 1: didn't they? Because everyone loves Matthew McConaughey. Now on that note,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: that is all we have time for today. Thank you
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: so much for joining us for this episode of If
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: you have enjoyed it, could you please make sure you
• 33:35
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• 33:38
  Speaker 1: want to officially wish my son Luca happy first birthday.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: This episode is coming out on the 16th, his birthday.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Congratulations, Sophie, for getting through a
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: year of motherhood as well. I feel like this day
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  Speaker 1: is just as much about you as it is about Luca.
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  Speaker 1: Frost yourself. Frost myself. Yeah, it is a very special
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  Speaker 1: day and one that has come with a lot of emotions.
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  Speaker 1: Last night, I was looking through all of my newborn
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  Speaker 1: photos of Luca and feeling a bit teary. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to have such a fun day with him.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I can't believe it's been a year, a
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: year since we did our birth stories as well. So exciting. Well,
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  Speaker 1: if you did enjoy this episode of Outspoken, we would
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• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Sophie will be reading the review just as an FYI.
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  Speaker 3: I will.
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  Speaker 1: Be kind. Please don't make that encourage you to make
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  Speaker 1: it extra mean. I mean that in a... Yeah. Also,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: this episode was recorded on the traditional land of the
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Kaurna people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to
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  Speaker 1: elders past and present.