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Top Chef All-Scam Edition w Angela "The Kitchenista" Davis (Fraud Friday) · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's poppin Congregation?
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  Speaker 2: Is your girl?
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  Speaker 1: Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of
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  Speaker 1: Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the scam
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  Speaker 1: Goddess bault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring
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  Speaker 1: back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this
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  Speaker 1: episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay scheming, scam, come.
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  Speaker 3: Rab and from scam, come rub and froll.
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  Speaker 1: Scam Goddess. What's poppin Congregation? Ishagarl Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm here with another installation of what Yes, Scam Goddess,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm so what Yes? Excited? Right? Say it with me?
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  Speaker 1: Say it into your headphones, Say it into the bathroom
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  Speaker 1: that you're hiding from your children. I'm during COVID. Hi, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I am really excited.
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  Speaker 2: For this guest. Guys.
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  Speaker 1: This is Angela Davis. She's a chef. I've been following
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  Speaker 1: her on Twitter for a while because she posted very
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  Speaker 1: beautiful like photos of her delicious ass food and videos
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  Speaker 1: and shows. She's a self taught home cook, food blog
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  Speaker 1: or recipe developer, food photographer. Because she'd betting angles on
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  Speaker 1: this food and my angles. I'm like, honestly, I've been
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  Speaker 1: getting hungry, Like, bro, who's you know in Detroit. The
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  Speaker 1: Kitchen Nista is the blog that she's had since twenty twelve.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're on Twitter, if you're on a social
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  Speaker 1: profiles of the Kitchenista, get into it. Yeah, and we
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  Speaker 1: have her on the show. I know y'all been waiting
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  Speaker 1: for this episode. I know y'all be First of all,
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  Speaker 1: y'all too demanded. The show is free for y'all, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so stop yelling at me about things. But also I
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  Speaker 1: will listen. We're here, Angela the Kitchen Listen.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, I'm so happy to be here.
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  Speaker 1: My icon, Mike Queen. It's okay. This is gonna sound
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  Speaker 1: so freaky and weird, but like, I've watched so many
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  Speaker 1: videos of you cooking that, like I know what the
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  Speaker 1: tattoos are on your wrists.
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  Speaker 2: That's so funny. Well, I just got new ones, so
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  Speaker 2: now you're gonna have to learn the new ones.
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  Speaker 1: So this is like a bit of an untraditional episode
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  Speaker 1: because much like the Shawn King episode which y'all niggas
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  Speaker 1: got shot, you got me all blocked on all platforms
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  Speaker 1: for Sean King. I didn't do that. I never tagged him.
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  Speaker 1: I never wrote his full name in the episode. But
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  Speaker 1: every time he was doing some function, people would drop
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  Speaker 1: the episode link under his photos. To the point where
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  Speaker 1: he blocked me on every social media.
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  Speaker 2: That means you're doing something right. If he blocked you, I.
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  Speaker 1: Know, I was proud. I was like, good, Yes, he's
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  Speaker 1: a criminal. He's a criminal criminal, like and oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: a mess. So we're talking about criminal criminals today. But
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  Speaker 1: first before we do that, Angela, I have to ask you,
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  Speaker 1: outside of what we know, we're here to talk about,
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  Speaker 1: what's your relationship with scams. Have you ever been scammed?
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  Speaker 1: You hate scammers? Do you like that? Like what it
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  Speaker 1: could be anything?
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  Speaker 4: I'm definitely I've been scammed personal life and business. Like
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  Speaker 4: I've been scammed in the sense of dating people or
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  Speaker 4: involved with people that had like you know, girlfriends or
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  Speaker 4: wives or children that I didn't know about, like that
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  Speaker 4: kind of thing. Business, I've been scammed with people that
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  Speaker 4: just couldn't do what they the way that they presented themselves.
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  Speaker 4: Like my first encounter was was a woman that claimed
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  Speaker 4: that she could publish, like help me publish.
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  Speaker 2: My first cookbook.
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  Speaker 4: This is like when I first hearted, and she turned
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  Speaker 4: out to be a scammer like that, she had no experience.
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  Speaker 2: It just kind of fell apart quickly.
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  Speaker 4: So I've had a few situations like that in my
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  Speaker 4: in my business life where.
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  Speaker 1: People she said she could publish a Bookie was like
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  Speaker 1: ox KOs, that's my firm, that's my publishing company, FedEx Kikos.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy when you go back and read stuff and
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  Speaker 4: you're like, how did I fall for that? But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: she I mean she was like a jack of all trade,
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  Speaker 4: so early in the day she was pretending to be
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  Speaker 4: a publisher.
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  Speaker 1: Charisma, that's how you feel for it. Like there's a
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  Speaker 1: confidence that a lot of scammers have that is very
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  Speaker 1: disarming that people fall in love with and then they
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  Speaker 1: think that you can do things that you can And
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of people who are successful in whatever
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  Speaker 1: they do are pretty confident in it because they've done
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  Speaker 1: it for a long time and they know it. So
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  Speaker 1: when you see a scammer adopt that same swag, you're like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is what you do. Right.
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  Speaker 4: Meanwhile, they're just making all I know. I say, like,
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  Speaker 4: I want to move through life with the confidence of
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  Speaker 4: a scammer.
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  Speaker 1: Next time, Yes, I love that for you. Also, like
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  Speaker 1: what a word like that's I think that's the word
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  Speaker 1: of the episode. Move through life with the confidence of
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  Speaker 1: a scammer. Yes, wake up every day, look in the
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  Speaker 1: mirror and say, yes, I could scam, I could do robbery,
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  Speaker 1: I could do fraud.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even need the experience. I can do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Okay. So on the show, we do something in
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  Speaker 1: the beginning that's called what's hot fraud? Well, we're warn
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  Speaker 1: our listeners and people about what is popping in the
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  Speaker 1: streets or more often than not, our listeners will snitch
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  Speaker 1: on their friends, families, and themselves scam gottispod gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Just make sure that your scam is retired so that
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  Speaker 1: I don't want fuck up your bag exactly. Like, make
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  Speaker 1: sure you've done before you tell us. Okay, because I
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  Speaker 1: feel like my FBI agent, uh Stephen, he really be listening.
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  Speaker 2: Don't explose yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I got good FBI agents. Okay. So I this
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  Speaker 1: is a short one because this is probably gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a longer episode. So this is a short What's hot
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  Speaker 1: in fraud? Give me a fake name, Angela could be anything.
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  Speaker 1: We don't care about. Gender, Katrina, Katrina I like that, Katrina.
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  Speaker 1: So Katrina says, Hey, Lacy, I just listened to your
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  Speaker 1: Oh first of all, Katrina, why do you spell my
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  Speaker 1: name la c e y? My name is in everything
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  Speaker 1: that I do, It's on every handle. It's Laci. Why
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  Speaker 1: y'all be doing that? Y la zol? I just want
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  Speaker 1: to say that. So also, like, do spell it wrong?
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  Speaker 1: Because like I don't need the government on all my stuff,
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  Speaker 1: So let's, you know, keep it diverse. I think I
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  Speaker 1: like it. So says I just listened to your podcast
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  Speaker 1: when you talked about Bacon Bitch. Tracy Hudson basically made
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  Speaker 1: a bootleg restaurant that was supposed to be like Bacon Bitch,
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  Speaker 1: no way but yeah, and then turned it into Brunch Bitch.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought it was fantastic because it's like very
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  Speaker 1: similar logos, very similar menu. Dang, people just have no
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  Speaker 1: sh mac Arnold's. She did mc arnolds from Coming to America.
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  Speaker 1: When y'all got McDonald's, we got mac Arnold's.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I can't even try.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love the laziness. It's I'm here for.
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  Speaker 1: So since I just listened to your podcast when you
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  Speaker 1: talked about Bacon Bitch, I went to Miami three three
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  Speaker 1: years ago and I was waiting to go onto a
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  Speaker 1: cruise and that place was by the location of the
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  Speaker 1: dop So I went there for lunch and let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you, oh my god, so goddamn good. I have
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  Speaker 1: exclamation points said. If you're ever in Miami, check them out.
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  Speaker 1: Good ass drinks too. Thank you for giving me something
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  Speaker 1: the bench every day and company. Oh this is very sweet.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's a very fun intro to what is going
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  Speaker 1: to happen on this podcast today, because I think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the opposite of that. But wow, Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad Katrina that you enjoyed bacon bitch. Now I do
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  Speaker 1: kind of want to go, but guys, we're gonna take
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  Speaker 1: a quick break for some non scam advertisements. We'll be
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  Speaker 1: right back. Scoff God, And we are back, and it's
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  Speaker 1: time for my favorite portion of this show, historic hoodwinks.
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  Speaker 1: This is where I will regale normally regale Angela with
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  Speaker 1: a scam story and get her opinions all throughout. I
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  Speaker 1: am gonna get her opinions all throughout. But she is
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  Speaker 1: very familiar with what we're going to be talking about today.
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  Speaker 2: It's too familiar.
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  Speaker 1: So before we really get into it, I wrote down
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  Speaker 1: some things that I'm yeah, here we go. So today
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about Gordon Scamsey, chef boy yard scheme, chef scamby,
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  Speaker 1: Anthony do robbery. No, don't don't to me like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's sacred. Don't you have like that?
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  Speaker 1: I love Anthony Burdane. That's why I couldn't. I really
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  Speaker 1: couldn't figure it out because I was like, no, I
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  Speaker 1: love this man. We can do, we can do.
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  Speaker 2: Marcus scam Wilson I think that was.
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  Speaker 1: One of them. No, Anthony Burnan is a king. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about Darius Williams, who is more widely known
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  Speaker 1: as Darius Cooks and then even more widely known as
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  Speaker 1: Darius Crooks Crooks.
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  Speaker 4: Mister Crooks. Yes, I'm not gonna call him a chef anymore.
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  Speaker 4: This is mister Crooks, mister Crooks.
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  Speaker 1: And before we really get into it, like I always say, guys,
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  Speaker 1: y'all know, I'm not trying to get food, okay, and
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  Speaker 1: as on the ready to get my gofund me, ready
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  Speaker 1: for my abugado Okay, if I have to drive you out,
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  Speaker 1: so I said, boulevard and find a billboard. Fight people,
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  Speaker 1: swing met y'all gotta help me out. Okay, give me
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  Speaker 1: my money from my Abugatto fund. So the sources for
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  Speaker 1: this are coming from Forbes article why food blogger Angela
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  Speaker 1: Davis Blue, Darius Williams does not deserve a platform, Southern Girl,
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  Speaker 1: Darius Cooks, Darius Krook's question mark popular food prosonatity, personality,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me, under fire, black enterprise, from recipes to receipts,
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  Speaker 1: Darius Cooks Williams Tonight's claims that he is a crook,
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  Speaker 1: and then the State of Georgia Consumer Protection Division.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and that is why we could legally call him
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  Speaker 4: a scammer, because Georgia determined that Georgia was.
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  Speaker 1: Like, no, but he do crime. No, they said they know.
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  Speaker 1: So Angela is known as the Kitchenese to an American chef,
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  Speaker 1: food blogger, recipe developer, cookbook author. She's here, We've talked
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  Speaker 1: about this. She also created her blog The Kitchenese and
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  Speaker 1: Diaries in twenty twelve. We also know that right She's
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  Speaker 1: appeared in news outlets like Huffington, Pose Hour, Detroit Food
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  Speaker 1: fifty two at the Washington Post. So like, Angela's here
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  Speaker 1: and she has the things she's a seasoned professional, and
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  Speaker 1: the girls know, they know I.
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  Speaker 2: Do my job.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, some of us actually quick So in twenty fourteen,
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  Speaker 1: and this is crazy because this is like a very
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  Speaker 1: interesting episode because I'm talking about you, but you're here,
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  Speaker 1: and so some of this sounds like it's not like
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  Speaker 1: you're here, but it says in twenty fourteen, Davis started
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  Speaker 1: seeing some of Darius Williams videos like circulating around the internet.
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  Speaker 1: She had a Twitter conversation with a friend, a pastry streff,
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  Speaker 1: critiquing some of what she had seen, but never actually
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  Speaker 1: tagging Williams nor involving him directly. So, do you remember
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  Speaker 1: what that is? Like what you saw that gave you pause?
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  Speaker 4: It was, well, we were looking at his blogs. I
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  Speaker 4: don't remember what specific, like what video was going around,
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  Speaker 4: but it prompted us to look at his blog. So
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  Speaker 4: we were kind of running through the recipes at that time.
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  Speaker 4: And I think my friend it was the cupcakes that
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  Speaker 4: caught her eye because she's a pastry chef.
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  Speaker 2: And it was like a greasy cupcake liner.
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  Speaker 4: And so at the beginning of the conversation started out
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  Speaker 4: like she was explaining to me like how he could
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  Speaker 4: have done it differently, And then we just kind of
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  Speaker 4: went back and forth in a general sense about how.
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  Speaker 2: Like sloppy the work was. I remember going to like.
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  Speaker 4: I just browsed through some of his recipes and the
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  Speaker 4: instructions were so vague that it came across to me
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  Speaker 4: as lazy, because I you know, I was like a
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  Speaker 4: couple of years out at my blog at that point,
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  Speaker 4: and I know how much work it was just to
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  Speaker 4: explain a recipe in a way that somebody could really
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  Speaker 4: learn from it, and everything that he was.
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  Speaker 2: Putting out just seemed like the exact opposite of that.
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  Speaker 1: And I will say that I think he got away
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  Speaker 1: with that for so long because there was like a
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  Speaker 1: kitchiness to him. There's like a comedic aspect. So some
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  Speaker 1: it's almost like those white women who make those videos
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  Speaker 1: where they make nachos on their counter and Speakara on
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  Speaker 1: their counter. It was like clickbait, and so I think
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  Speaker 1: that that he used that to his advantage. The issue
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  Speaker 1: is that he is really also trying to purport himself
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  Speaker 1: as a real chef and sell recipe books, So it's like,
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  Speaker 1: since which is right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that he realized that it was funny.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. I think.
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  Speaker 4: I think he thought he was really doing the thing,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like going back because I watched I went
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  Speaker 4: back to some of his oldest videos when he first
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  Speaker 4: started cooking. It was like two thousand and eight, and
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  Speaker 4: I found his Master Chef audition. He was taking himself seriously.
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  Speaker 4: He really should have just been a comedian from that
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  Speaker 4: point and it.
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  Speaker 2: Would have been great.
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  Speaker 1: I saw when you tweeted about that, because wasn't he
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  Speaker 1: talk about some sss all or something.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was just falling out of the pantry,
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  Speaker 4: and like he looked. It was like he was looking
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  Speaker 4: at sets for the first time as he's doing this
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  Speaker 4: audition and talking about his secret ingredients. So yeah, he
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  Speaker 4: wasn't taking himself seriously. But but he It's just weird
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  Speaker 4: because all this time pretending to be a cook, he
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  Speaker 4: could have just learned how to cook right like you.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the thing about scamming is like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times people have skills, but they're just kind of
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  Speaker 1: lazy and don't want to hone them when they realize
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  Speaker 1: they don't have to. So that makes sense. And so
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  Speaker 1: when you had this conversation about the cupcakes, I guess
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  Speaker 1: he screenshoted it and posted to his Instagram and alluded
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  Speaker 1: to you not supporting black chefs.
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  Speaker 4: That's his yeah, that's his recollection, is that he approached me.
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  Speaker 2: I think. I think in his.
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  Speaker 4: Interview with Larry Reid, he was he was saying I
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  Speaker 4: approached her and said, you know, we should work together
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  Speaker 4: because that's there's not too many black people out there.
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  Speaker 4: But that's not actually, that's not what he did. Like
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  Speaker 4: when he screenshot it, he presented it to his audience
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  Speaker 4: that I was hating on him, and this is why
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  Speaker 4: black you know, I don't know why black cooks can't
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  Speaker 4: get along or black food blog or something like that,
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  Speaker 4: which is manipulative of course, of course, I mean from
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  Speaker 4: the very beginning, this is what he does. Like he
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  Speaker 4: he you know, he hides his hand and likes to
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  Speaker 4: come off as if he was the one being nice
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  Speaker 4: and like, I can't imagine why anybody would would make
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  Speaker 4: fun of me or hate on me the whole while
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  Speaker 4: he's like he's harassing me.
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  Speaker 2: I had a much smaller audience.
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  Speaker 4: At the time, and my friend had an even smaller audience,
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  Speaker 4: so she was pretty taken aback by the harassment. It
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  Speaker 4: wasn't completely new to me at that point. I had
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  Speaker 4: experienced a little bit of online abuse, but it was unexcusable.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it was like a whole week.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, it was the way that he presented it
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  Speaker 4: instead of just.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, he really he should have
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  Speaker 2: taken the advice to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: He went full Karen. He went full Central part Karen.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, I'm big attacked, I'm big attacked.
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  Speaker 4: But was like doing the Yeah, it's so for me,
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  Speaker 4: Like these people are just making fun of me on
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  Speaker 4: the internet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, exactly. So let's get into his scams. We're
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  Speaker 1: starting with Soul Crab and greens Engraving. So Crab is
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  Speaker 1: one of several restaurants the Darius owned in Atlanta, Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: As more information started coming out regarding Darius, a former
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  Speaker 1: server from a now shuttered Soul Crap gave her account
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  Speaker 1: a physical assault by him, and there are tweets that
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  Speaker 1: will post to the page. In an exclusive interview with
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  Speaker 1: black Wood Enterprise, william says the reason that Kiara didn't
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  Speaker 1: receive her money was because she never completed onboarding despite
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  Speaker 1: being shorted on payroll, and this is an alleged common
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  Speaker 1: occurrence with a lot of his employees and it's very
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  Speaker 1: cute to call it shorted on payroll. Nigg you robbing me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing work and I'm not getting currency for it.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on?
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  Speaker 4: Don playing that? And it's been two years since the
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  Speaker 4: restaurant closed? Like why is a server still looking for money?
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  Speaker 1: Also? How does someone not complete onboarding paperwork but they
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  Speaker 1: working right?
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  Speaker 4: So you didn't do your job right? Blaming the worker.
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  Speaker 4: That's not that's even true, right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you didn't sign here in initial here, so that's
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  Speaker 1: why we can't pay you, even though you've been working
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  Speaker 1: here for two years. Like what what?
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  Speaker 4: It just it doesn't make any sense for it to
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  Speaker 4: have gone to that point where she was that upset.
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  Speaker 4: She never should have been the math thing man for
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  Speaker 4: her check. Of course she was upset.
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  Speaker 1: So he also denies the assault, saying that she began
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  Speaker 1: being irate with him. He says he reviewed the video
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  Speaker 1: footage with responding officers and admits, so I did put
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  Speaker 1: my hands on her. This is a quote from Black Enterprise.
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  Speaker 1: But I put both hands on her shoulders to kind
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  Speaker 1: of turn her so we could go discuss this outside.
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  Speaker 1: So you put your hands on her, right, that's as all? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's I think that's the definition, right, And I would.
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  Speaker 4: Love to see the tape. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: why the tape hasn't surface yet. It was it's completely.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Different than his.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't saw it.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna believe her.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Also, that's like me being like I get to a
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: fist fight. I didn't have saw her. I just massaged
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: her eye, socking with my fists, which walked her out
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: outside the door.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, right, So the two women that had to pry
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: his hands off of her.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Were just making that up too.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I gave her a hug with my hands around a throat.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: What interaction?
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: He's yeah, he just he lies, He lies with everything.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: But it was it was just so disturbing that that
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: he brushed it off and then in another interview just
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: claimed to not even know her name. It's just like,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: that's just so offensive to me that you now you
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: have somebody that came out and said you didn't pay me,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: you assaulted me, and you can't even bother to learn
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: your employee's name. Right.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: And also in the Black Enterprise article, he brought up
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: his queerness, saying, you know, I'm a gay man, like,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: how could I harm women? And I was like, what
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: what did that mean?
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Absolutely nothing to do with he's he's been doing that
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: a lot lately.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: That's that's that's the new deflection, is that I'm a
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: gay man.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I couldn't possibly be harming woman. It just doesn't make
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: any sense.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Oh gay, How could I be a criminal? Like news
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to me?
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. That's that's not gonna hold up
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: very long court.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I'm right, I didn't know that. That's I don't think
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: you can be like, yeah, you're honored.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I don't even like women could hurt them.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: You're honored. I engage the same sex dating. Hell, could
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I be a criminal gay to do crimes? What did
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: he say in that?
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Because I was just watching it last night and I
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: think it was the Larry Read interview and he says
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: he said that I must not have known that he's
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: a that he's at sissy like he said that word.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: It's just it's just crazy.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: What that mean? Your honor? I couldn't have hurt that woman.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gay. I like I just the mathe mathod And
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be the through line for all of this,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: is that the math just will never math so soul
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: cry so Darius's other restaurant, Greens and Gravy, shut down
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: this past February without notice. He announced in an Instagram
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: post that they were shuddering, but did not provide additional details. Later,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: he said it was due to his mental health. And
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I want to bring this up because it seems like
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: anything that is a struggle or a situation where you're marginalized,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Darius likes to capitalize on that. You know, he did
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: it when he posted you on his Instagram and was like,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: black people, why can't we get along? Crab sent a barrel,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: also sold grab my restaurant, And then he did it
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: with being homosexual, like I couldn't hit a woman I'm gay.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: And then he shut down his restaurants and said I
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: had closed my businesses because I'm depressed. And it's like
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: this brings out the pill bottles, right, And it's like, also,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I realized on your social media that he sent a
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: lot of his fans after you, attacking you for your
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: mental health, trying to say that because you were exposing
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: a criminal, that you were mentally First of all, those
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: two things don't walk hand in hand. I suffer from
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: professional anxiety. That doesn't make me a bad person. It
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't make me do bad things to people like they're different.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: But he used an excuse of mental health and then
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: tried to have people attack you saying that you were
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: mentally ill.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's, I mean, he's it's more reflection. See, I've
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: always been open about my mental health.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I talk about it all the time.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I was diagnosed as by polar when I'm twenty five,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: when I was twenty five, and I've always been open
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: It's just part of my life.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: And so the interesting thing is that he never ever,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: ever talked about mental health until the restaurants I went
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: back and let through his feed. It's not even mentioned
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: like nothing but the question, nothing about therapy, nothing about
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: mental health, right, and now this is the reason. And
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: you know, everybody goes through what they go through. I'm
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: not discrediting it. I can't prove that he's lying. However,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I do think it was a convenient time to now
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: start talking about your mental health and put out pill
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: bottles as crops. I just I think it's disgusting as
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: somebody that actually goes through it, because I don't know
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: if you saw the latest what I realized after I've
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: been tracking this for a month and I started. I
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: had never looked through his ebooks. He plagiarized his holiday
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: e book based on mine. I put out all, Yeah,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I put out a holiday My first holiday book was
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: in twenty fifteen. It was a Thanksgiving book, and then
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: I did I followed up twenty sixteen with a revised version.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: It was a full holiday menu, and the concept was
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: a full holiday menu in one book, with grocery lists
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: and like tips for holiday prep, all my own photography,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: like original recipes. I think it's about forty recipes. I
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: start out with like an intro about family traditions and
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: how much that means to me and how I'm trying
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: to preserve those traditions and learn how to cook so
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: that I can put food on the table for my family.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: And I talked about how important it was, like from
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: a very personal place, and it happened to be the
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: book that I put out when I quit my job,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: like that allowed me to continue my journey.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Well. I had never seen his content because I blocked
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: him at twenty fourteen.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: He put out a holiday book a year after or
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I did, and I started going through it. I did
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: a thread on Twitter, and there's just too many coincidences.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it like for me to ignore, right,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Like the whole concept rips off of my book down
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: to like like I'll give you an example, like the
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: type of recipes I did, the traditional you know, like
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: turkey hymn, and then I have alternatives.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I did a like pistachio crusted.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Salmon, and there's a coffee rubbed beef roast, and there's
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: cornish hens. Well guess what's in his book? Cornish hens,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: a beef roast and cong crusted salmon.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: It a little bit.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: He just switches up like one or two ingredients and
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: then cuts out half of my instructions to make it
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: like this sloppy, easy version of whatever I did. So
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: I went through the whole book and it's just it's
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: a lot of it's a lot of shit like that,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: even down to the intro, Like we're questioning if his
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: grandmother even existed at this point because a lot of
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: the stories are adding. Like every interview he does, he
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: switches up the age that he was when he was
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: cooking with her. He switches up his grandmother's been everywhere
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: from like Chicago to Mississippi to Kentucky.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Now, so what I realized in college.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I kept killing my one dad aunt to get out
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: of finals, to get out of doing everything. I'd be like,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: oh she doesnet die again, y'all. Here here's those bitua.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I moved the sunrise to sunset. Oh my dad so
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: many times. Her sunset was in twenty twelve. It was
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: also in twenty fifteen. It was.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: That's terrible.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: I guess maybe that's what he's doing, is like Pam's
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: just been all of it, like the whole book that
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: he put out, stories from my grandmother's kitchen, Like all
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: those clots are made up about panms, like Pam didn't
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: make avocado toast, His grandmother didn't make avocado toast, Like
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: she didn't make a Strengthen Chariza Burger like why is
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: he lying on his grandmother?
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Why are you lying on his girl? But like that,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: why else to do that?
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: He has a great his grandmother pat he pretended to
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: be me. So I think that's where like the mental
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: health park comes up. I went through his old interviews,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: and he had like different stories about when he went
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: to college, Like first he said he had a biblical
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: he had a degree in biblical studies.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Well, somebody went in contact to that college. I never
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: heard of him.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: It's like Moody Bible Institute, Like we got a letter
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: back and they're saying, Nope, never heard of him.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: And I also want you to know that you might
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: be Darius's grandma, like when he.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Like, that's probably the next iteration of the story.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: So he and then he and then as as it evolved,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: as his journey involved by the time you get to
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: like twenty fourteen, which is when I started doing interviews,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: now he's claiming to have a fourteen year HR career
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: and he left a commercial real estate company to pursue
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: cookbooks and catering.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Well, guess what I was doing.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I was working at a commercial construction company and I
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: had a ten year account. Like I like, this is
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: it's like single white female. Like his whole story shifted
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: to look like mine.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: So he did.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: I had him blocked, and I'm not realizing that he's
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: copying my books and he's copying my actual story right,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: like my life story. And I think the mental health
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: was just like an extension of that because a year
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: prior I have talked openly about having like a mental
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: health crisis, and now conveniently here's various list with It's like,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: what's next, you know, being.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Being alive and being yourself as hard. You know, if
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: you find somebody who's just got everything you want, maybe
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: just be them.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: I was sous, like the only thing he couldn't plagiarize
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: was my children. And then I went back in the
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: book and the book he put hes he copied tips
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: that like don't actually fit in his book. He copied
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: tips for recipes he didn't even have, so he so
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: he copied a tip about letting your kids set the table,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: like he actually put that in his book. Just find
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: a kid at the table, sign a kid.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: You don't have to, you know, Darius is probably sitting there, like, damn, okay,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: this has been working thus far. She's my fake grandma.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I'm stealing all these quotes. I'm stealing these recipes. Oh damn,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: she got kids. I don't got kids. How can I
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: work this out? Find it? Child may here. Find a
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: child's cential table, whether you have them or not, Like.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Just just find a random kids asking us a kid.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Go outside on the street and find a child to
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: sential table. Amen. You know that's hilarious. I'm sorry, Like
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: what it's insane? So there are more issues at his
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: restaurants than just disgruntled employees, according to a former kitchen
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: manager who spoke with Black Enterprise. And so this is
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a quote. And so when the people Health inspectors came in,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: they failed it. His license wasn't up to par. He
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: owed almost twenty five thousand dollars to the light department.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: So when they handed me the letter saying that lights
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: were getting ready to be cut off, twenty five thousand
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: dollars or we're cutting off the light, basically, I told
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: my crew go home, cut them off. A whole millionaire
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: with his lights getting turned off, right, a whole millionaire.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: But you can't. We can't have a fluorescence.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: We can't have not even a flashlight, not even a candle, right,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: like the lights.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: What's going on? But listen, Darius, just like you don't
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: need to see the food, probably for a good reason.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And so you couldn't see the rats and the roach, right.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: He was like, look, I'm giving vibes. Okay, y'all come
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: here and get vibes. Y'all need to see stuff. What
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: do you need to see? Set out? You're setting the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: scene right. Additionally, when the restaurants shut down, there were
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: problems regarding final checks. This is another quote from Black Enterprise,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: from someone who's employed. You left them people with no
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: paychecks for months. It took them threatening to sue you
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: before you even gave them an allowance because it wasn't
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: their full paycheck. So you just gave them whatever the
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: hell you wanted to give them to hell with my payroll,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: hell with everything. Right before Darry's that's shameful. It's shameful.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: You have to pay people what you owe them, like.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: And this is this is into the pandemic. This is
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, oh then that's even it's way worse. So
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: right before Darius shut down Greens and Gravy and Soul Crab,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: he had just settled with the Georgia Department of Law
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Consumer Protection Division as his company Above seven oh one
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: allegedly conducted a legal credit repair.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean not right there. He started this in
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: twenty sixteen. It was a different company name when he
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: started it before it switched above someone on one. I
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: just want to know why nobody thought that there was
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: something wrong with a food blogger just popping up with
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: a credit repair business out of nowhere.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Right, The math ain't math in there. If he was
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: like an account in or worked in finance, perhaps that
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: could be the next jump. But that's like me going
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: from being a comedian to be like, hey, y'all, I'm
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: selling door heart monitors. You're trying to get your heart
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: monitor all. Like it's like where did that come from?
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Especially considering like his whole past, it's all it's like bankruptcies, evictions, lawsuits,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Like how do you have all that in your past?
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: And then you pop up and decide I'm gonna.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Fix everybody's credit right, No, no finance background whatsoever.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: So above seven oh one's byline was because you can't
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: be flat with bad credit? Okay?
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Wow? So is he praying a black people? Like it's
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: just it's funny, Like the ads are funny in the
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: sense that it's just they're so terrible.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: But what he's doing is scamming the same people that
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: he claims to that support him, you.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Know, right, Southern black people seem saepy, all black women,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: black women, and people with religious backgrounds. He's like, do
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you want to get your credit face? Do you try
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: to get a new credit card? Skirts skirt? Okay? Like
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: he's like all those ads that whenever I go to Atlanta.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Atlanta has the most beautiful black radio ads that are
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: so deeply black and hilarious that I know a white
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: person wrote them.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: That's how write, you know what, that's how he writes.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: He writes like he's just like playing an African American
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: soul food cook.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Right. One of my favorite commercials when I went to
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Atlanta was one eight hundred injured, and it was like
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: one eight hundred injured.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I was just driving my business. It was like I
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: was just driving minded my business. Somebody got behind me
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: skirt skirt my neck, hurt my back doo, and I
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: had to call the throone. I still remember it.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: You got a call the thone.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: That's his credit commercials, and it's all it's just all
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: about like fixing your credit so that you can buy something.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: So even the ads are it's just like, you see
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: what the motivation is. It's not about getting your life together.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: It's about like, let me like illegally fix your credit
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: so that you can get approved of this car or.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: This house so that you can be fly and stunt
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: people with the same bad credit. And so he did
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: this as long as you paid him a monthly fee.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: He said that he would fix your credit. This is
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: an illegal practice in Georgia. In December twenty nineteen, the
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: State of Georgia announced that one hundred and forty seven
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars settlement with Above seven oh one
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: and Williams was happening. So they were like, you're doing
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: crime and we see it and you need to pay
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: us and then get out the game. So, in addition
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: to violating the Georgia Fair Business Practices Acts, the set,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the state states that the company accepted payment before services
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: were provided and were misleading about the services that it
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: could provide. There's also numerous unaddressed complaints in the company's
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Better Business Bureau page. Williams says that he refuses to
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: address these complaints. He also refuses to provide Better Business
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Bureau with physical addresses for his businesses and set up
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: accounts so that the Better Business Bureau is unable to
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: address concerns. So not only he say like I'm not
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: gonna respond to nothing on the Better Business Bureau, also
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: like they were like, Darius, where's your business address? And
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: he was like, my address is a vibe, you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: it's a feeling.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: So and so are his business licenses. It's just it's
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: just vibes and credit card charges.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Right, Like, we're looking at the Better Business Bureau right now,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and they've got some complaints up here. So we're gonna
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: read one of these complaints here from the Better Business
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Bureau that are on this page currently.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: He also deflects by kind of focusing on Georgia.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: But that law about not accepting payment upfront for credit repair,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: that's a federal law.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: It's actually illegal everywhere.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: He was just trying to act like Georgia was doing
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: too much, but it's like this on him too. And
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: also that kind of feeds into the sympathy and the
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: manipulation too, because there are some laws in Georgia that
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: are deeply unfair, especially when it comes to marijuana and
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: black folks. So there are some laws in Georgia that
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: actually are bad.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: So he's like, by the way, right now, we start
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: selling like infused products or something like he doesn't even
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: understand what a strain is.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: So, oh, Lord Jesus, this is not what we need.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: This.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: No one needs this, nobody.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Needs nobody needs those kind of edibles.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: So one of his complaints on the Better Business bureau
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: website is I ordered a pound cake in early April
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and I have not received it yet. This complaint comes
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: from May twentieth, twenty twenty one. They said they ordered
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the pound cake in early April, weeks they're taking weeks
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: in the mail. I've tried contacting Carolina pound Cake twice
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: May ninth and May sixteenth by email and they have
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: not responded. I would like a full refund of fifty
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: dollars the price of the cake, like the next one.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I placed an ordered to pound Cake Carolina websites April
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: twenty fifth, twenty twenty one. The website says that it
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: should take five day business days and the cake will
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: be baked and shipped, and I haven't gotten it. Like
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the same thing, There's a lot of the same complain
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: on there which brings us to Carolina pound Cakes. In
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: the comments of a post from You're from You, Angela
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Davis with Kiara's Statement, who was one of the alleged
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: former bakers with Carolina pound Cakes, details her experience working
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: in poor conditions and being paid pities to bake for
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Carolina pound Cakes. There are also numerous complaints on the
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: websites Better Business Places that we just read about not
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: getting cakes or refunds. Customers were told they were backed up,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: hence the website being taken down. However, on July nineteenth,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, the company was dissolved and.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: No business life sense.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Here's the thing, though, even before it was dissolved, that
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: address that was on the website was just a PO box,
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: so nobody knew where the actual bakery was, and there
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: were no health inspections for wherever this place was that
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: he was baking, and so the state caught up with him,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: so they definitely know, you know, they shut it down,
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: but he's so claiming to be catching up on orders,
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: so who knows where these cakes are actually being made
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: and why they're taking two weeks to you know.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Right, that's an excellent scam tactic. Though I can't lie
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: to never have a real physical address. I kind of
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: want to do that. It's actually genius.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: It seems to be working for him. It's not the
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: first time.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which because he had no physical address and they
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: couldn't do health inspections. Like you said, Angela, it was
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: against the law because that's a requirement for shipping food
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: across state lines, is that you have to have a
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: health inspection.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Because it's a food safety issue.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Like, I think that's serious that he's just he's sending
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: out cakes that are not being wrapped properly. They're taking
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: a couple of weeks in the mail, and apparently his
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: followers are still eating them when they get them.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Yikes. And I saw pictures on Twitter of someone who
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: had cakes allegedly that were from his company and they
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: were moldy when they got this.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: One off.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I saw one that had bugs and all because yeah,
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: like they look like little black ants or something.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Oh and food, you know, I think sometimes we don't
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: put enough respect on food and people who make food
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: and people who are chefs, because food is one something
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: essential that we all need in our lives. But food
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: brings people together, It reminds people of things. It nourishes
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: their souls, their minds, their bodies. You should be respectful.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: There should be the amount of grace and respect that you
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: have when you're making food for people. And absolutely, and
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: you should care. You should care if it's safe for
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: them to eat, Like that's just fair. Minimum is that
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: you know that it's safe. You know that you're not
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: going to kill somebody by sending them a cake. The
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: bar is on the floor, especially because our food half
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: of it ain't food.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: We can we talk about like the fact that it's
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: a fifty dollars pound cake.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: First of all, I mean fifty dollars.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Fifty dollars, Like what kind of poundcake is this?
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Also, when should you take the utmost care shipping a
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: fifty dollars time?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Right? I was about to say, if it's fifty dollars,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: it should be FedEx next day, beautifully decorated, plated, like
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: you should have to sign for it, like fifty dollars
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: and you're just throwing the shit in a fucking next
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: day airbox and.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Not like he's still like a flat rate shipping box
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: and like just like a prayer, and like it'll get.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: There when it gets there five to eight days.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: What did it mean? How long is it traveling during
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: the five to eight because I really needed to just
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: travel one day.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: That's He's just I don't know, I just I don't
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: understand it. I don't understand how this has been going
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: on for a year and a half and people are
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: just not asking, like that's going over the cakes.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I don't want o caake that's been percolating for five
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: day days. I don't want it marinated. I don't want
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: a fermented cake like and that man loves to put
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Hannessy in things, so oh right right.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe that's the disinffect. Maybe that's what stops the
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: h Maybe he soaks him at Hennessy's. They don't grow now.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Listen, Hennessy is very strong. I've drink during COVID. There
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: was some place in some country that was given Hennessy
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and masks to people, and I said, that might be
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: the cure, because I ain't never if you want a
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: new throat, if you want to just refresh the.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Drinks in his restaurants. He had issues with food safety too,
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: like those health inspections were terrible.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: The one in Chicago.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: It was like the food wasn't even being stored at
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: the right temperature. So maybe that's the Maybe that's the plan,
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: is like you just have enough alcohol and nobody gets sick.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Right, He said, Look, we ain't got no lights, we
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: ain't got no health inspections, but we do have as
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of Hennessy. Y'all gonna be good. Y'alln't need
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: to see shit. It's fine if you have to eat bugs.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: We have Hannessy. So Sonny Anderson and Fresh Go, like, guys,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: do you see what's happening? Like are you listening to
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: how we are just moving from It's a lot. It's
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: a lot, like, so come going back to Chicago. Chicago's
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: one of the baby scammer was in Chicago. This is
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: these are the baby scams. He had a whole bunch
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: of scams in Chicago. That's cute. I literally just flew
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: back from Chicago. I think it's a very cute. Skinddy,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: very right, very right for scams. I would love to
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: go back and rob people.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Bob bab.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: And right. So, celebrity chef and Food Network stars Sonny
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Anderson invited Darius onto her show Cooking for Real for
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: two episodes. According to Anderson, while working together, Darius asked
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: her to invest in his grocery delivery business in Chicago,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Fresh to Go or Fresh Go. She declined, but after
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the show aired, she started receiving complaints about the business.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Because of his appearance on the show, people assume they
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: work together and that she'd be able to contact Williams.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: That's how you know that she really is some crime.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: When people see you with somebody else and they're like, well,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: maybe this is how I can get my money back.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget rush cards. So Russell Simmons had this
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: card number played debit card that you can have your
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: checks put on from work called rush cards, and then
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: his ex wife also had like the baby fat Rush
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: car Like they had these little you know cards for
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: people who don't have bank accounts, and one day, I guess,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: all the money got froze and nobody could get their
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: checks from work. No one could get their money off
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: of the card. And it got so bad that Angela
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Simmons had like angel would post a photo like out
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: at the beach, cheeks out, sons out, buns out, and
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: people were in the comments like, cis, can you tell
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: your dad to run us our money?
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Where is our fucking money? Blame them though, that's crazy.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: My last really bad date.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, it tells you how long I know this was.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: It's the guy pulled out a Rush card. He couldn't
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: he couldn't pay for the whole.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: My god, now not the rush card on the dead.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Pay for the whole. Like we sit down and he's starts.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: I could tell from the beginning because he's just ordering water,
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: and he's like, I'm not that hungry, He's just picking
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: something off an appetizer. And I already keep gaming from
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: the beginning, so I'm ordering everything because I knew I
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: was gonna end upaying for my shit anyways, so I,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: you know, I ate everything I wanted to.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: This was like it was like a Mediterranean restaurant.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: He was like, they got free bread here, they got
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: free bread. That's all we need.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: I think he has some hummus and some water, and
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: the check comes and he goes, well, I only got
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: thirty dollars left on my card and he puts the
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: card down.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: It was a rush card. So that's when I just
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: decided that dating might not be for me anywhore.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: No, no, not the fresh card, the rush card.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: So I told the server, I said, put thirty on it,
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: and then I paid for the rest of my mony off.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: But I took everything off of that card.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Angela, you Patty, not put thirty on it. He was like, no,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I'm taking dolls. Like, I'm gonna take it and then
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay for the rest and I'm never gonna
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: see you again. I love to ask for you Edbar's,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: but yeah, so rush Card wasn't rushing nobody day coins.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: They were very actually slow and not fast and did
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: not rush to pay people money. So it's just funny
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: to me because like the fact that Angela or Sunny
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Anderson rather, you know, had a mild association with this man,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: and then people were like, this is how we get
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: our money back? They were desperate.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: If you go back and look like you can still
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: if you search for freshco on Twitter under the old handle,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: you could see some of the people are still like
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: back then, this was like twenty twelve. They're just tweeting
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: into the void like Farius ran after, you know, left
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: with their money and they were trying to figure out
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: how to find him, and they were just asking like
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: it was the beginnings of so is this guy a
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: scammer because he appears to have run off with their money?
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Right and Anderson. Anderson said, I got messages on Twitter
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: about fresh Goo or fresh to Go, and there were
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: complaints that people had given their credit card information but
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: no delivery. They reached out to me because he was
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: on my show. I called him to ask what was
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: going on and he hung up. I called back and
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: he never picked up again.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: That's his ms. That's when everything was in Chicago.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: It was kind of coming ahead, so Freshco was was
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: people realized that there was no actual grocery delivery service.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: They were just getting charged for nothing. And then he
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: had another scam going. He had started fake es like groceries.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Right, just vibes.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: He started a cup he was going to make a
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: cupcake mix, like he had a bakery, so he had
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: a cupcake gallery.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: That was his business, and then he started this company.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: He was going to sell dry cupcake mix, like a
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: box mix where you could call this is this is
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: his plan, A one eight hundred number to order this
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: cupcake mix because that's how we order cupcake mixer. Sure, well,
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: it never actually existed, but he had people invest in it.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: He sent out like this whole investment proposal and people invested,
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: and then he just left town and like the company
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: never actually existed, like they bought shares, like he sold
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: one percent shares for two thousand dollars for shares like
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: this is like an actual investment, like like he has
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: like the numbers laid out, like I'm going to have
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: one point two million in revenue, and you're if you
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: buy a one percent share for two thousand dollars.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: You'll be set for life. He's telling people they can
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: retire off of this.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: It's not it's changed New York and it's Darius ringing
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the bell. Come event. Yeah, And this is like a
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: high level scammer. You do something and then you act like, oh,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know what went wrong or I'm not really
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: like good at that oops, and then you leave town
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: or you leave whatever that venture is, and you just
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: never That's how you pivot.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: It's just change your number, change your Twitter handle, delete
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: your blog, and move on.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: That's what he used to do. But I guess he
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: just forgot that people could still pull up the archives. Right.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: The internet is forever. So Darius denies he not only
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: ever like so, he denies that he ever owned Fresh
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: to Go or fresh Go, and he says he knows
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: nothing about it. When Black Enterprise asked directly, do you
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: know anything about this fresh Go being associated with you?
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: He says nothing, Really, That's what I'm saying. That's why
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I would love to know from Sonny what I ever
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: did to her? He said, I ain't never even had
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: knew nothing about no fresh Go. I ain't never even
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: fresh whatd and look very He don't cook with fresh vegetables,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: so he you know, you know, he loves a powdered.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: Veget lane from the beginning, like he kicked the wrong lane.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: So he tweet had a tweeter a whole mother fate
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: company called local Hala. So he has a website, not
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: a website, a Twitter page for that. And the only
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: company that that page advertised was fresh Go.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: And we have a tweet from January twenty twelve of
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Darius Williams saying it's a in all caps, great day
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: to shop fresh Go click today, grocery delivery tomorrow. Then
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: he puts the website fresh Go now dot com. Now, look,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: if he had just denied owning fresh Go, maybe this
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: tweet is fine and he's just advertising for something. But
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: he said fresh Go. Who is that? I don't know her.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: He never heard of a girl. He's he never met her.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: West your tweets like, by now, wouldn't you have deleted
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: your tweets because he brown like.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: His tweets are still there. He's trolling us. He's trolling us.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Gotta be this is so slappy. So you know Darius
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: his Twitter, he's promoting fresh Go. There's a one star
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: review from Yelp that says do not support This guy
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: owns fresh Go and he initiated hundreds of fraudulent charges
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: on people's credit cards. He is a thief. He charged
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: mine ninety eight dollars and thirty four cents twice. Damn
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: they got the real like, not the thirty four cents, Okay,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I had to get the bank to reverse it twice.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: No one can find him. He doesn't answer his phone
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: or emails.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: He even set up a fake group on a deal
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: for a fake company. Like that's how far the scan went.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: The whole the website is what kills me though.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: And so we have a screenshot of the Fresh to
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Go website right here, and we'll post all of this Dan.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: This is gonna be a long, swipey post for you
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: guys on Instagram. But so the now deleted fresh Go website,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: we're looking at it right now with a single blog
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: post a recipe, just one blog post for green beans
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: with tomato walnut jam. The image is gone, but a
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: link to now deleted posts on Darry's site Everyday Cooking
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: dot Com. Around the same time, there's an image of
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: green beans with tomato walnut jam that was posted to
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Darius's Facebook, and now we're looking at the green beans
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: and the tomato walnut jam. He also knows how to
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: like say words that are very titillating for people who
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: like to cook or want to cook well, or want
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: to learn, like jam, walnut jam.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Aren't those becaus?
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, they are pecaans, they're not walnuts. Since we'd walnuts,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: don't even lie? Right, how do you go a lot
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: of my face like this? I have a Darius, No,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: not a nary a walnut.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: He definitely called the walnuts.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, this is and I don't even he never
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: even know if it's his photo. This feels like something
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: he actually made. I mean, this looks pretty bad. It's
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: probably Yeah, there's levels to this though, It's like you
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: lie about the food, and the food is also a
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: cover for the scam, right. The scam is that he's
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: not a chef and never probably wanted to be.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: This is just a scam so you can get scam
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: so he can still be running people's credit cards.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: So he was also like he even created like a
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: fake payroll company.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Around this time, child, and then when you open it up,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: it goes to his address, like he like there's a
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: YELP page for this fake payroll company that is on
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: his resume, and then you go look it up it
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: was his apartment brou Darius is the hardest working man
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: in crime. Okay, he's doing his two thousand times so
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: stolen recipes.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Because Darius cooks can't actually cook cook. Many of Darius's
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: recipes are more of an assembly of pre made, store
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: bought ingredients rather than recipes for ingredients from scratch. This
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: includes sauces for his jerk chicken and barbecue wings, as
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: well as pizza do Most of his recipes just also
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: don't work. We linked to one of your threads about
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Darius's keto book, and then there's an Instagram reel of
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: endless sodium laden seasonings. Oh yeah, his his catfish seasoning.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: When I saw that, I wanted to pass out. He
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: put so much salt. Well, somebody would actually pass out
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: if they ate that.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: I said it to my dad. My dad had a
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: heart attack a few years ago, and I remember just
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: how hard it was the first couple of years to
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: get to understand like what he could tolerate with sodium,
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: and we had to be super careful about everything, and
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: it's it's serious, Like if he would have one day
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: where he ate out, you know, like you know, there's
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: so much sodium when you eat out.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Like so if we had a holiday or he was eating.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Outside of the home and he overdid it, he would
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: be in bed for a couple of days, Like it
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: would trigger like his he had congestive her failure, and
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: he would get fluid. He's dealt with gout, like and
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: this is not uncommon in our community, you know, like
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: there's so many of our of our families that are
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: like have heart issues or high blood pressure. So for
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: him to be using more than a week's worth of
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: sodium like just so casually and act like it's not
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: a big Like this was a big.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Deal to me, And it's so deeply dangerous. You hit
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: the nail on the head. Because his audience is us
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: is black folks, We're already predisposed to having high blood pressure,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: most of us do, like you know, we already are
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: predisposed to having way more stress just for simply being alive. Like,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: so it's a dangerous combination. And when I saw that video,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, this made must be joking. There's no
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: way he's gonna eat This is.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: What so I and I calculated it, like it had
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: to be an over a week's worth of sodium in
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: that one bowl, and it was three portions of cathas.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: According to him, it was. It was just it's insane.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: So of what's left, many of his recipes are stolen.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: He copied and pasted Tasty French's omelet recipe. We have
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: a picture of that, Mandy Lee Charizo and shrimp burger.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: This one you can google image the chariza and shrimp burger.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: That what bothered me because I'm such I was such
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: a fan of that blogger back back in the day,
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Like that was her first recipe that I remember circulating.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like it was such a cool photo.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: Like I just left the photo and it always caught
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: my eye and people started to copy it, and he
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: was one of them.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: So it was one of the first things that stood
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: out to me, like you didn't come up with this.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: But what he does is like he'll take something if
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: you go to her blog, she her whole process. I mean,
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: it's it's like homemade bun, homemade Cherisa Patti. And he
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: just does like the easiest thing that he could do
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: to put a recipe on the page It's like it's
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: like you're erasing and devaluing an actual recipe developers work,
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: which is so disrespectful.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: And so we're gonna end Darius. The saga here with
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Darius Williams. Harassment of black women, why we're here. When
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: conflict rose online again between Angela, Davis, You, and Williams,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Williams launched his own campaign of harassment against Angela. He
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: is Dave's trademark name Kitchenista as a promo code to
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: sell his books, and I saw that tweet use the
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: code Kitchenista. He also posted a ten minute long video
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: detailing how he was making money with the conflict, from
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: which he earned ad and sponsor revenue.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: So he says, so, he says allegedly, which those numbers
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: don't line up either.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, has we that's the whole titled episode. Yeah,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: he's never gonna math. He also so. He also on
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: his Twitter and Instagra and feeds are there's like aun
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: ending snide remarks directed against you.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Angela.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: This is one quote from you. He went on live
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: and made fun of me, saying that I was broke.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not a millionaire like him. He said that my
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: countertops are formica for Mica. Rather, they're not not that
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: it matters. He said something about how the only thing
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: I cook with is duck fat. It was just really petty, Darius,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: You ain't ever cooked with a fresh vegetable? Can we
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: speak on that, right?
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Like I've never seen actual garlic, only drowns his food
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: and like olive oil and soggy bacon, and has the
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: nerve to talk about ducks fat, like, try some duck fat,
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: maybe it'll be an improvement.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: He probably just mean he don't know where to get it.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: You never trying to get it because he stops my
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: face And the funny thing is now like everything in hindsight,
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: realizing that he's acting like he doesn't know who I
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: am making fun of the way I cook.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: But he's been stuck my fees and copying my recipes
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: for seven years.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Right, he knows, just like he don't know about fresh
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: go He said, no, no, you just can't get away
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: with using it.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: He can't get away with using that fat because everybody
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: would know who he took it from.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And Darius justify as much as his behavior
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: and denies that he's a bully because he is gay
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: again again in quotes. He says, I think what's happening
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: is is that people may not be familiar with my
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: brand because of some of the hate mail I'm getting.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: You know, stop up using black women, keep your hands
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: off black women. And I'm openly gay, but I don't
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: come across as gay. And what a rollercoaster of a sentence, right,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: keep your hands off black women? He's it, But I'm
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: gay though, Like, what do you mean how could I
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: harm black women?
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I'm gay? Like, as he's actively harassing me and then
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: denying that he's a.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Bully and trigger warning. We're gonna look at some tweets
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: that are you know, murder assault, Like if you wanted
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: to skip ahead a couple of minutes, I'll put a
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: note in the episode here. But so this is a
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: tweet from Darius Williams. Just saw a woman jogging at
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: this hour alone and they wonder how they come up
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: missing and did one thing. The Bible always said you
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: can't rape the willing. What he's discussing, that's it. I
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: must tell the truth. Bill Cosby raped me too exclamation
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: point And he really thinks he's a comedian. Wow, and
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: he has no remorse, Like I was just I was
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: watching an interview last night, and he's laughing about all
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: of this and twisting it into like I can't believe
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: that they would accuse me of rape. Well, first of all,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: nobody accused him of rape, but those tweets did come up.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: He was being accused of being a rape apologist. Maybe
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: he doesn't know the difference as somebody as a survivor.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think this is funny. Like, I
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: just I can't believe that one he would leave those
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: tweets up his career, and then when they get.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: To not address it and just come out and say
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: even if it was ignorant, just to even just to say,
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: this is not these this doesn't represent how I really feel,
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: you know, apologized, and this is how I'm trying to
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: do right going forward. None of that happened, right, He
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: just he twisted it into into a story, a sideshow
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: about I can't believe they would accuse me of rape,
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: like and then laughing about it. But that's not what
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: anybody said. So when he does that, then he's not
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: actually addressing what we are talking about.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: It's like Trump, It's like just deflect.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: And deny and fake news and then everybody else will
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: forget what we were actually talking about.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: That's literally what I was gonna say, is he's deflecting,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: just like Trump in this way of like, oh that
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: was a joke. Oh that's so weird, I'm laughing at it,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Get over it, move on like And it's actually a
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: tactic that works, Like abusers use that tactic all the time,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: like to diminish how you feel about something. The gaslight,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: you make you think that it never happened, or it
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't real, or they were joking, you know. And he's
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: very good at that, sadly, and people are believing it.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: When Southern Grit published an article about Darius by journalist
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Deborah Freeman, his fans went after her with aggression. The
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: harassment rose to death threads, and Southern Grit's editor in
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: chief had to submit a video statement announcing his support
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: of her. Darius purposely never denounced the threads, stating that
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: he never threatened anyone, so he was just trying to
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: act like, Look, it's just like what Trump did with
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: all the racist people who voted for him. He was
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: like the only thing that ever made Trump met about
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: his supporters was is that they were poor. He did
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: not like the insurrection.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: He like.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: Y'all couldn't come through the Capitol in suits, bitch, y'all
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: couldn't go to men's warehouse, and like the way you look,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: how you're gonna come up here wearing all this crazy
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: warpaint of shit you get to get out?
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: So yeah, like he's if you could take Trump and
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: turn him into a black smooth blogger and Sean King.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's all of those things, because this
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: did remind me so much of Seaun King during this
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: episode of just going from griff to grift and acting
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: like ooops, did not like Sean King.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: Is Seaun King's grifts with like Trump's lies and Tyler
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: Perry's you know, all in one house operation. Like it's
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: just like it's like the three of those people combined,
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: and that's that's Darius Trump, Sean King, and Tyler Perry.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: It's pretty iconic. I think that he hears this, so
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: he might be deeply flattered by that. And that's not
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: what we mean. It's not a compliment.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: It's not a compliment at all.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's just crazy, like when you're like
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: if you're looking at something on paper, and like nobody
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: asked him direct questions.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: So he's getting away with this because he's.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Not he's not really being interviewed by anybody that's gonna
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: hold him accountable. Like he can go on live and
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: just create his alternative version of reality and his little bubble.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: But everybody else is looking through receipts.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Like there's just too many of them adding up.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: They're everywhere, and he's everywhere.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: There's care it's unhinged in a way that I look
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: and it's like a train It's like a you know,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: like a car crash or a train wreck where I
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: just can't look away from this man in his grips
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: and he's still going, y'all, he and and nobody's jail
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: hand and nobody's custody, and you know, but he's gonna
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: keep going, uh forever, hopefully not forever. Hopefully, Angelia, you've
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: done some great work really exposing this and stopping the
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: heart and hopefully making people aware of something so that
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: he can stop harming folks when they're aware that he
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: is a criminal. So thank you for your time and
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: your energy doing the right thing. And I know that
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: that's been hard because people are also retaliating against you,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: and you're dealing with a lot, and you don't deserve that.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: You're a queen, you're an icon. I was so excited
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: to talk to you. This has been so fantastic. But
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: we're about to get to the status part the show,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: which is where I have to let Angela go and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: we'll be right back. Scam cod and we're back after
• 1:00:10
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• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: just like a piece of shirit like Darius. Who knows.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: So today we're talking about Fisher Industries owner Tommy Fisher
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: is out of thirty million dollars after building a three
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: mile section of a border wall and ending up with
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: no buyers. In twenty nineteen, We Build the Wall, a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: nonprofit co founded by Steve Bannon, gave Fisher eight point
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: four million dollars to build two sections of a wall
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: along the New Mexico and Texas borders, but the cost
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: ballooned to thirty million dollars and they only gave him
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: eight point four This she said, this would be really fun.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: It would be a project that would be remembered like
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: the Hoover Dam. That's what he thought he was getting
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: involved in. He was making a racism wall and thought
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: it was the Hoover Dam, the Hoover Dam. That same year,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: the founders of this Build the Wall, We Build the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Wall organization were indicted under suspicion of defrauding donors of
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars in connection to the organization. So
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: they were just stealing money based on racism. They were like, hey,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: why you Darius scam?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Like that right, scam somebody else?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: This is ethical scamming. It was like they were like, hey, girls,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: you hate the Browns. We're gonna make a wall to
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: keep them out.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: He's construction of scams.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Just send us some coins and we're gonna keep the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Browns away from you. We promise, Like do that scam.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if I'm mad at this at all.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I think that I'm into this scam. Because Fisher built
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: two small private walls no one asked for that weren't
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: built well, he is having difficulty finding a buyer of
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: the wall who wants to buy a wall that one
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: don't work good. So now he's got to wait.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: He's got to be built the wall, and now he's
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: gotta sell it.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, he's trying to sell a wall that don't work.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Good lord, he says, this wall is vibes. Yeah, you
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: can pass through it, just like Darius.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: You need to take that.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Part through right. I honestly, I don't hate this. I'm
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: actually happy that you were scammed. We need more scammers
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: like this. But guys, we're at the end of the show,
• 1:02:07
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• 1:02:09
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• 1:02:13
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• 1:02:14
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